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ALL, EVERYONE. THANK EVERYONE FOR JOINING US WITH HIS BUDGET WORKSHOP FOR MY STUDY OF 2022. IT IS 302. WE'RE READY TO GET STARTED. MADAM CLERK. COULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROAD? COUNCILMAN MCCARTHY BURGH CASTLE MEMBER WILSON SMITH HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER MYERS HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER WESTBROOK PRESIDENT, COUNCIL MEMBER HILL VICE MAYOR SMOOTHLY. MAYOR PERSON. HERE. THANK YOU. TEXAS ITEM TO DISCUSSION IS OUT OF A
[2.a. Presentation of Capital Improvement Plan (CIP)]
PRESENTATION OF THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN. MR WILLIAMS. GOOD AFTERNOON. GREAT. YEAH.THERE WE GO. THERE WE GO, OKAY? SO, SO WE'RE HERE TO. TO GO OVER AND REVIEW THE 2023 THROUGH 2027. C I P MM. AND SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED. COUNCIL IMPLEMENTED A POLICY AND WE CHANGED OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT POLICY BACK IN FISCAL YEAR 22 FOR TWO TO ENSURE THAT HALF MILLION DOLLARS WENT TOWARD REESTABLISHING OR REPLENISHING THE FUND BALANCE AS WELL AS ANOTHER 500,000 GOING TOWARD CAPITAL PROJECT. LACK OF RESERVE AND THAT EVERY YEAR THERE WOULD BE AN ACCUMULATION. THE CUBAN. THE CUMULATIVE AMOUNT OF THAT WOULD BE A MILLION DOLLARS AT THE END OF FISCAL YEAR, 23 IN THIS PARTICULAR SLIDE PRESENTATION. YOU WILL SEE THAT , UH, OUR PROJECTS IN FISCAL YEAR 23 HAVE BEEN FUNDED. CITY IS CONTINUING TO THIS TO THIS DAY TO THIS ALBUM'S TRYING TO GET MORE AND MORE FUNDING, WHETHER IT BE THROUGH THE LEGISLATURE OR THROUGH GRANTS THOSE TYPE OF THINGS, SO WE'RE STILL CONTINUING TO DO THAT AS WELL. UM, WE'RE IN. WE'LL KEEP TRYING TO DO THAT. I WANT A SIDE NOTE. WE DID WANT TO ADD THE NEAR THAT OUTSIDE OF THE SCOPE OF THE 22 23 THROUGH 27 CLP THAT WE'VE FOOTNOTED, UM. FUNDING FOR A NEED FOR FUNDING FOR SCHOOLS FOR NEW SCHOOL. UM, SO THAT'S OUTSIDE OF THE FIVE YEAR BUT I WANTED TO MAKE THAT NOTE. UM SO ADDITIONAL FUNDING WOULD BE NEEDED IN THOSE OUT YEARS IN THE FISCAL YEAR 28 29 TIMEFRAME FOR NEW SCHOOL RIGHT NOW, WE DON'T KNOW CRISTIAN AROUND 28 MILLION OR SO, BUT UM, THAT'S JUST A SIDE NOTE. FUNDING SOURCES. THINK WE'VE ALREADY SEEN AND WE ARE ALREADY FAMILIAR WITH A LOT OF THE FUNDING SOURCES THAT GO INTO OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS. SO WOULD THAT SAY IT WILL GO TO MORE DETAILS ON THE 2023. CAPITAL CAPITAL BUDGET, SO FISCAL YEAR. 2023 IS THE FIRST YEAR OF THE FIVE YEARS C I P THAT'S NORMALLY REFERRED TO AS THE CAPITAL BUDGET FOR THAT ONE YEAR AND AS I STATED PREVIOUSLY ALL CAPITAL PROJECTS. IN THE FISCAL YEAR 2023 C I P HAVE BEEN FUND. THE WAY THIS PRESENTATION IS SET UP AND SET UP BY DEPARTMENT. AND SO WITHOUT FIRST DEPARTMENT, OUR FIRST APARTMENT IS FACILITIES ARE FACILITIES MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT THAT FIRST PROJECT 400. FARMER STREET BUILDING. YOU CAN SEE THAT THAT WAS FUNDED AND SOME FUNDING WAS SET ASIDE FOR THAT THROUGH OPERA. SOUTHSIDE DEPOT PROJECT.
UM I KNOW TOMORROW IS THE LAST DAY TO RECEIVE FOR PURCHASING TO RECEIVE BIDS ON THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT, AND FRIDAY WILL BE THE APRIL 1ST WOULD BE THE DAY TO DAY. OPEN AND IT APPEARS THAT THEY'VE GOTTEN ON THAT. CITYWIDE MASTER PLAN THAT WAS FUNDED, UM THROUGH OPERA AS WELL. UM PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT AS FAR AS THE REHABILITATION OF PARKS. UM. AND RECREATION FACILITIES.
THAT WAS FUNNY. TO THE TUNE OF $306,000. CITY HALL ANNEX. IN CITY HALL RENOVATIONS SO INCLUDED IN THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT, YOU'LL HAVE SOME INTERIOR IMPROVEMENTS IN CITY HALL. INCLUDE INCLUDING THE BATHROOMS. INCLUDING AN ELEVATOR MODERNIZATION BECAUSE THE ELEVATOR IS SO OLD COULD HARDLY GET PARTS FOR IT. ALSO IN THE ANNEX YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
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RENOVATING BATHROOMS OVER THERE, TOO. OKAY, SO YOU'VE GOT BATHROOM CITY HALL. YOU'VE GOT BAD FROM THE HEART. AND NEXT YOU'VE GOT, UM THE EXTERIOR WINDOWS DOORS. ALL INCLUDED IN THAT PARTICULAR CATEGORY. IN ADDITION TO THE ELEVATOR INTO THE HALL. OKAY, THERE'S A ROOFTOP BASED VSC UNIT THAT. THAT WAS RECOMMENDED THAT FOR THE JUVENILE AND DOMESTIC RELATIONS COURT THERE ARE. FOR THE DISTRICT COURT BUILDING WE'VE BEEN PUTTING INSIDE IN A SPECIAL COURT HOUSE RESERVED FOR HIM. $750,000 FOR FISCAL YEAR 23. YOU'RE ALSO SEE THAT ON THE SLIDE FOR THE 24TH 27. SLIDES AS WELL. FOLLOWING THIS. FUELING STATION. WE'VE GOT A FUELING STATION THAT THAT WE'VE GOTTEN THE BEERS BACK FORWARD. IT WILL BE IMPLEMENTED AND OVER AT THE DOMINION BUILDING IN THE AREA OVER THERE. BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, FOR ALL THOSE FACILITY ITEMS, YOU CAN SEE HOW THEY'RE FUNDED. YOU CAN ALSO SEE THE AMOUNT OF FUNDING AND IF WE GO GO FORWARD IN THE FIRE AND E M S AREAS. EQUIPMENT MOTORIZED DEFIBRILLATORS. THEY WERE INCLUDED IN THE OPERA. APPROVAL AND LET'S SEE M S FIVE RADIOS. THEY WERE IN THE AWFUL APPROVAL AS WELL. POLICE RADIOS. THOSE WERE ITEMS THAT WERE APPROVED AND ADOPTED AS WELL AND ARE OUR NEXT ITEM IS MOTOROLA RADIO SYSTEM UPGRADES, AND SO THIS ITEM HERE? THE SYSTEM. THE MOTOR ROLE OF THE SYSTEM THAT MOTOROLA USERS FOR POLICE. AND FIRE IS. SO OUTDATED THAT IT ISN'T SUPPORTED ANYMORE. OKAY? AND SO AS A RESULT OF THAT. THE RADIOS HAVE OVER 15 YEARS OLD AND THAT SUPPORTED EITHER. HENCE THAT WAS WHY WE NEEDED THE RADIOS BUT GOING BACK TO THE MOTOROLA RADIO SYSTEM UPGRADES. ROUND. THAT'S A PROJECT THAT. IS SO IT WAS SORELY NEEDED, AND THAT WILL YOU'LL SEE ALSO ON THE NEXT SLIDE OR IN THE NEXT SLIDE. WHEN WE GO THROUGH 24 THROUGH 27 YOU SEE THAT CONTINUE THAT ONE MILLION IS JUST LIKE A PAYMENT ON THAT PARTICULAR ALL THOSE PARTICULAR SYSTEM UPGRADES THE CARE SYSTEM, THE COMPUTER AIDED DISPATCH SYSTEM. THAT IS TO BE REPLACED TO THE TUNE OF $390,000. AND THEN THERE'S A FLEET. CATEGORY THAT WE HAVE FOR SOME CITY VEHICLES THAT WOULD INCLUDE UM, TO THE VEHICLES THAT VARIOUS, UM DEPARTMENTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY. I T WE KNOW ABOUT THE ER P SYSTEM. OKAY SO WE'RE CURRENTLY MEETING RIGHT NOW, WITH CARED. DEPARTMENT HERE IS ON THE TO ASSESS THE NEEDS THAT WOULD NEED TO BE INCLUDED IN THE SYSTEM. AND THAT 300,000 YEARS. WE'RE BASICALLY HAS BEEN EARMARKED FORWARD DESIGN COST.AT THE TAIL END ON THE BACK END OF FISCAL YEAR, 23. BUT YOU ALSO SEE THAT THERE'LL BE SOME MORE SPENDING IN TOWARDS THAT PROJECT AND IN OTHER YEARS, INCLUDING 2024 2025. PUBLIC WORKS. OKAY, SO THE SOUTH CRATER ROAD TRAFFIC SIGNAL IMPROVEMENTS PROJECT. THAT PROJECT HAS BEEN UNDERWAY FOR TWO. I WANT TO SAY THIS IS ABOUT THE SECOND OR GOING INTO THE THIRD YEAR. THAT'S CURRENTLY FUNDED BY C. MAC. FUNDING THE VITA, WHICH IS 100% REIMBURSABLE. SOUTH SYCAMORE STREET BRIDGE COVERED REHAB. THE FUNDING FROM THAT IS FROM THAT STATE OF GOOD REPAIR. PROGRAM AND THAT'S 100% REIMBURSABLE AS WELL. THEN YOU ALSO GOT THE PATTON PARK TRAIL WAY, WHICH CURRENTLY WRITING THERE IS I THINK, PLAYING IN HIS WORKING WITH POLAR, UH, FOR DESIGN, BUT THAT'S A VIDA ADMINISTERED PROJECT. AS WELL. STREET OPERATIONS. FISCAL YEAR 23 FOR STREET OPERATIONS. WE'RE BASICALLY BE DOING THE PAVING THAT WE'VE DONE OVER THE LAST FOUR FISCAL YEARS. OVER THE LAST FOUR FISCAL YEARS. WE'VE ALL WE'VE DEDICATED A MILLION
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DOLLARS. TO PAVING, AND WE'VE DONE THAT. WE'VE SPENT THAT EACH OVER THE LAST FOUR YEARS AND PAYMENT AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO THAT. OKAY WHEN LOOKING AT STORM WATER, OKAY, SO WE END UP GETTING A DCR GRANT FOR THE CITYWIDE DRAINAGE STUDY. TO THE TUNE OF A C OKAY, SO IN FISCAL YEAR 23 THAT WOULD BE ABOUT THE 1.7. MILLION DOLLARS. THE DESIGN COST THOSE THAT WAS APPROVED AND ADOPTED BY COUNCIL IN. THE MONEY THAT OPERA MONEY THAT'S ALREADY BEEN SET ASIDE. AND THEN ALSO WITH ALL THE DRAINAGE PROJECTS WITH CLAREMONT BATTLEFIELD NORTH WHITEHILL. AND FLEETS BRANCH WITH THOSE PARTICULAR DRAINAGE PROJECTS. IN THE. MONEY THAT'S ALREADY BEEN ADOPTED AND APPROVED. THERE WAS A $2.1 MILLION THAT WAS SPREAD AMONG THOSE PROJECTS BASED ON THE AMOUNT OF SPENDING THAT WAS REQUIRED. WHEN WE SUBMITTED THOSE PROJECTS FOR HARPER FUND.STREAM RESTORATION PROJECTS. THAT'S A. RESTAURANT. THAT'S A PROJECT THAT STORM WATER EVERY YEAR. THEY THEY HAVE SEVERAL PROJECTS THAT THEY. THAT THEY INITIATE BASED ON WORKING WITH THE EQ. BASED ON WITH OTHER AGENCIES TO EITHER RESTORE STREAMS OR SOME OTHER DRAINAGE PROJECTS AS WELL. AND THEN COMPLIANCE TEST. WE HAVE THOSE EVERY YEAR. THE STORM WATERFRONT PAYS FOR THOSE IF WE LOOK AT OUR WATER UTILITY, OUR PUBLIC UTILITIES WATER WE'VE GOT WATER DISTRIBUTION. MAIN REHABILITATION. AND ALL THAT. YOU'RE GOING TO FIND THAT MOST OF OUR DOLLARS THROUGHOUT THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT. A LOT OF THE DOLLARS ARE GOING TO BE IN OUR UTILITIES AS WELL AS IT AS IT HAS IN THE PAST. I'M SO IF WE LOOK AT OUR WATER DISTRIBUTION, MAIN REHABILITATION THIS IS PLANNING FOR REPLACEMENT OF WATER DISTRIBUTION MEANS WHICH HAVE REACHED THE END OF THEIR USEFUL LIFE, SO IT'S BASICALLY INFRASTRUCTURE. THEN WE START LOOKING AT LOCKS WHERE WE'VE USED. WE'RE USED TO SEEING THE LOCKS. PROJECT ON THESE UTILITY.
UM PRESENTATIONS. AND WE STILL DO HAVE SOME MONEY. UNDER THE V R A BARN. WE STILL HAVE MONEY INTO A TUNE OF $5.3 MILLION. THAT WE CAN YOU LAST? THAT'S ALREADY BEEN TWO MILLION AND THAT HAVE THAT'S ALREADY BEEN EARMARKED. WATER STORAGE REHABILITATION. SO THAT'S STARTED TO ASSESS OUR WATER TANKS AND ENTIRE WAS AND SO YOU'LL SEE SOME MORE OF THAT.
WHEN YOU GO THROUGH THE YEARS, 24TH AND 27 WATER PUMP STATIONS , REHABILITATION AND UPGRADES.
UH WATER PUMP STATIONS. THEY'VE BEEN IDENTIFIED AS NEEDING SOME ELECTRICAL REPAIRS AND SOME UPGRADES, AND SO. ALSO THE WATER MASTER PLAYING IMPROVEMENTS AND WHERE WE ARE WITH THAT IS THAT WOULD INCLUDE. ALL OF THE CONSTRUCTION UPGRADES FOR THIS, UH, WATER SYSTEM THAT. THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AS A RESULT OF THIS CIVIC ALLOW AND FLOW. AND SO THAT'S WHERE THAT PARTICULAR ITEMS. IS TALKING ABOUT. OKAY IF WE GO TO SUE OR WASTEWATER, WE'VE GOT A CONVEYANCE SYSTEMS, WHICH INCLUDE PIPES, SEWER PIPES UNDER THE GROUND, AND YOU'VE GOT DIFFERENT SIZE PIPES. YOU'VE GOT THE SMALLER PIPES. SOME OF THOSE COULD BE REALIGNED SOME OF THOSE LARGER PIPES. TO ER PIPES WOULD HAVE TO BE REPLACED. SU APARTMENT REHABILITATION. AS SUPER PUMP STATIONS. OKAY SO THEY NEED THEY NEED REPAIR AS WELL. AND THEN THAT LAST ONE LIKE IT CUT OFF THERE, BUT WHAT THAT IS, IS THAT THAT'S THE SEWER MASTER PLAN IMPROVEMENTS OR POOR CREEK. OKAY? AND WHAT THIS IS THIS WAS FOR MAJOR CONSTRUCTION AND UPGRADES TO US SEWER UTILITY SYSTEM. POOR CREEK FORCE ME. WOULD BE REALIGNED AND THE PORTS CREEK PUMP STATION WILL ALSO BE UPGRADE. OKAY SO WE LOOK AT OUR WATER AND WE LOOK AT OUR WASTEWATER. ASKED. FOR FISCAL YEAR 23. TO A TUNE OF $5.1 MILLION OF WHICH ALL OF US FUNDED AND YOU CAN SEE THE
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PARTICULAR CATEGORIES WITH THAT IT WOULD BE FUNDED OUT OF THE LAST. DEPARTMENT WOULD BE TRANSIT. WE KNOW MOST OF THAT. FUNDING IS FROM EFTA IN TERMS OF FEDERAL AND STATE GRANTS, OF WHICH THE CITY'S OWNER RESPONSIBLE FOR LIKE 4. STATE AND FEDERAL COVERS THE OTHER 96.SO THAT'S FISCAL YEAR. 23. OKAY SO, YEAH CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN EXISTS OF CONSISTS OF FIVE YEARS. SO WE WENT TO READ THROUGH THE FIRST YEAR, WHICH IS THE CAPITAL BUDGET FOR 2023 THE REMAINING FOUR YEARS. WHAT I'LL BE REVIEWING NEXT. IT'S THE SAME PROJECTS. SOME PROJECTS WERE ONLY FISCAL YEAR 23 PROJECTS. HOWEVER, OTHER PROJECTS ARE GOING TO WE HAVE SPENT IN MULTIPLE YEARS LIKE PHASES IF YOU WILL. OKAY, SO. YOU YOU'LL SEE PROBABLY SOME NEW. PROJECTS ON THIS LIST THAT I DIDN'T COVER UNDER THE 23 LISTS BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T SCHEDULED TO HAPPEN IN 23 DIFFERENT SCHEDULES HAPPEN IN 24 SO PHARMA STREET BUILDING THAT'S JUST A CONTINUATION OF WHAT I TALKED ABOUT FOR FISCAL YEARS. 23. CRITICAL SERVICES BUILDING ROOF REPLACEMENT THAT WAS NOT IN FISCAL YEAR. 23 SO REPLACEMENT THERE I WOULD CONSIST OF $100,000, AND THAT WOULD COME FROM OUR CAPITAL RESERVE FROM. I THOUGHT WE TALKED ABOUT THE DISTRICT COURT BUILDING AND THE $750,000 THAT'S SET ASIDE EVERY YEAR IN THE COURTHOUSE RESERVE. SO OBVIOUSLY FOR YEARS AT $750,000 GETS YOU YOUR THREE MILLIONAIRES. HAVE DEPARTMENT. ELEVATOR MODERNIZATION. OKAY, SO THE ELEVATED HEALTH DEPARTMENT ISN'T AS OLD AS THE ONE IS IN CITY HALL. THAT'S WHY WE BROADCASTED WHEN IT'S IN THE HALL PRIOR TO THE ELEVATOR AT THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT. WE PUSHED THAT OUT TO 2000 AND FIVE UNION TRAIN STATION. EXTERIOR RENOVATION.
WE'VE SLATED THAT. FOR 2024 TO THE TUNE OF 350,000. CURRENTLY THAT'S ONE OF OUR UNFUNDED ITEMS THAT WE DON'T HAVE FUNDING FOR. IF YOU LOOK AT THE LAST COLUMN OVER TO THE RIGHT BEFORE THE TOTAL. YOU SEE ANY PROJECTS THAT ARE FUNDED. WOULD AS I MENTIONED BEFORE WE'RE STILL LOOKING FOR GRANTS WERE STILL GOING TO THE LEGISLATURE TO GET SOME MORE FUNDING FOR SOME OF THESE PROJECTS. ROOFTOP H V, A C UNIT FOR GENERAL DISTRICT COURT AS WELL AS THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
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
THIS IS JUST A CONTINUATION, BUT YOU'LL SEE THAT WE'RE USING SOME OF OUR CAPITAL RESERVE MONEY TO HELP OUT. TO BE ABLE TO FIND THAT TRP SYSTEM PROJECT. HOWEVER. STILL, HALF OF THAT
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STILL IS OVER IN THE UNFUNDED. YEAH. DUE TO THE NATURE OF THAT BEING SO IMPORTANT. WHAT WOULD HAVE TO HAPPEN IS WE COULD WE COULD USE FUNDING. THAT'S WHAT WE DO. WE DON'T WANT TO DO A STARTER STARTER PROJECT IN THAT HAVE THE FUNDING TO FINISH IT SO LIKE I SAID, WE STILL SEEKING OUT OF THE FUNDING MECHANISMS, PUBLIC WORKS. WE TALKED ABOUT THE CRATER ROAD TRAFFIC SIGNAL IMPROVEMENTS AND SOUTH SYCAMORE BRIDGE COVERED REHAB. WE TALKED ABOUT THAT HOW THAT WAS FUNDED, AND THAT WAS WHERE THOSE PROJECTS 100% REIMBURSABLE. SHOULD OPERATIONS TALKED ABOUT THE PAVING NEAR CONTINUE THEIR FOR THE OTHER REMAINING FOR YEARS, MILLION DOLLARS. GO GOING FORWARD TO DO PAPER. WE'LL GO BACK TO STORMWATER. YOU SEE THE DRAINAGE STUDY, WHICH THIS WOULD BE? 2024 WOULD BE THE BACK END OF THE TRAINING STARTED. I WANT TO SAY IT WAS 1.1 POINT ONE AND $1.2 MILLION. IT LOOKS LIKE A FAVORITE MEMORY CORRECTLY. IN 2023. YEAH. AFTER THE DRAINAGE STUDY IS COMPLETE, EVEN THOUGH WE'VE IDENTIFIED SOME OTHER PROJECTS. LEGO HAIR BATTLEFIELD.EVEN THOUGH WE'VE IDENTIFIED SOME OTHER PROJECTS. WHAT HAPPENED IS WHEN WE HAVE TO DRAIN THE STUDY. THAT DRAINAGE STUDY IS GOING TO PRIORITIZE AND TELL US ABOUT SOME OTHER PROJECTS THAT WE CAN COMPLETE IN ORDER TO HELP WITH THE CITIES. FLOODING ISSUE AND DRAINAGE ISSUES, AND THAT'S GOING TO REQUIRE US TO. TO DO TO HAVE MORE PROJECTS. AND ANY TIME YOU HAVE A PROJECT, YOU'VE GOT TO DESIGN IT. AND THEN YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A CONSTRUCTION CALL. SO THOSE ARE THOSE WOULDN'T BE FUNDED CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW THAN NOT FUNDED, BUT WE'RE STILL YOU KNOW, STILL GOING AFTER GRANT, SO WE'RE STILL DOING WHAT WE CAN DO TO GET OTHER FUNDING SOURCES.
WILCOX LAKE. WITH PUBLIC WORKS AND UTILITIES SUBMITTED WHEN WE SUBMITTED OUR OPERA REQUESTS THE NUMBER ONE ITEM ON THE LIST AFTER PRIORITIZING WILCOX LAKE. THE $90,000 HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED AND ADOPTED BY COUNCIL. AND WAS INCLUDED ON THE 2023 SLIDE. HOWEVER THE CONSTRUCTION PEACE HAS NOT BEEN RISK SLATED SLATED TO USE FUNDING. FOR THE CONSTRUCTION SIDE FOR THE CONSTRUCTION. AND THIS LEGO HAIR AND BATTLEFIELD PROJECTS. THOSE ARE JUST CONTINUATIONS FROM WHAT STARTED IN 2023 WITH OPERA FUNDING AND USING THE STORM, WATER FUN. TO FIND THOSE PROJECTS. STREAM RESTORATION PROJECT RIGHT NOW, THAT'S NOT THE FIRST YEARS FUNDED OUT OF.
FIRSTLY IS FUNDED OUT OF STONE WOOD TO FIND, HOWEVER, THE SECOND YEAR WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING FOR MORE FUNDING FOR. C COMPLIANCE PROJECTS. THAT WOULD BE FUN FROM THE STORMWATER FIND.
SOME OF IT WILL AND THEN WE STILL HAVE SOME OTHER FUNDING DEATH. THAT NEEDS TO BE FUNDED PROJECTS THAT NEED TO BE FUNNY TO THE TUNE OF YOU SEE? YEAH JUST A PORTION OF IT IS THE STORM. THE STORM WOULD HAVE FUN WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO ALL OF THEM. SO THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE SOME IN UNFUNDED CATEGORY. M S FOR COMPLIANCE TASKS THROWING WITH THE PHONE WOULD TAKE CARE OF THAT. OKAY LOOK AT HOW UTILITIES AGAIN AND YOU'LL SEE EVERY EVERY YEAR FROM 2024 2027.
WE'VE GOT FUNDING, BUT THEN WE'VE ALSO GOT I'VE GOTTEN READ SOME ITEMS THAT DON'T HAVE FUNDING, BUT WE'VE GOT THINGS IN THE WORKS WITH THE LEGISLATURE THAT HASN'T BEEN DECIDED YET.
AND AS A RESULT OF THAT KEPT IT OVER IN THE UNFUNDED COLUMN. SO THESE ARE SOME OF THE SAME PROJECTS THAT I'VE TALKED ABOUT ON PUT 2023. BUT LIKE I SAID THE RED INDICATES THAT THAT WE DON'T HAVE. THAT DECISION HASN'T BEEN MADE WHERE WE'VE GOTTEN TO AWARD AT THAT POINT THAT WE DO HAVE THE WARD. OBVIOUSLY WE COULD MOVE THE FINDING FROM UNFUNDED TO THE PARTICULAR CATEGORY THAT THAT WOULD BE USED TO FUND THESE ITEMS. OKAY SO WE TALKED ALSO ABOUT TRANSIT WITH MOST OF THEIR
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MONEY BEING HMM. MOST OF THEIR PROJECTS BEING FUNDED BY MR MAYOR. I CAN'T READ ANY OF THIS STUFF, RIGHT? I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW WHY WE MEET AND IF WE DON'T HAVE THE INFORMATION I'M SQUINTING TO LOOK AT THIS. I'M SQUINTING TO LOOK AT THAT. WE MIGHT AS WELL NOT BE MEETING. I MEAN, WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE MOTIONS. WE CHECK THE BOX. BUT VERY LITTLE INFORMATION IS BEING CONVEYED. SOLVED AND WHICH. IS THERE A HARD COPY OF THIS PRESENTATION? I MEAN, I COULD.YEAH. I MEAN, I HAVE ONE. I MEAN, I CAN I'M HERE AND PRESENT, I SAID. I FIND THIS VERY MEANINGFUL. OR HELPFUL. I MEAN, THERE. GOT A SCREEN. WE'RE HAVING A MEETING TODAY. AND MR MAYOR AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME. I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT SOME OF THESE LANDS. HAND AND HYMNS. ONE? YEAH. WELL, I DON'T WANT TO BE. SUSPECT EVERYBODY'S GOT THE SAME PROBLEM. WELL, I'LL SHARE MINE WITH WILSON SMITH, BUT. THAT LEAVES FAR MORE THAN I DON'T HAVE IT.
WHEREAS YOU CAN PROCEED. WAIT FOR HIM TO GET TO THE. BASICALLY, I MEAN, IT'S ALMOST AT THE LAST.
OKAY SO TRANSIT WE WHEN I WAS TALKING ABOUT TRANSIT, BOTH OF THEIR FUNDING, OBVIOUSLY, FEDERAL AND STATE GRANTS 96. AND 4% IS. WHAT THE CITY WILL COVER. SO THE BIGGEST THING I SAY ABOUT TRANSIT IS THEY DID A REMEMBER THE 2023 SLIDE. THEY HAD A FEASIBILITY STUDY THAT THEY'RE DOING. FOR MAINTENANCE FACILITY. AND THAT'S THE SECOND ITEM ON THE LIST THERE. OF MAINTENANCE FACILITY. BUT LIKE I SAID, MOST OF THAT WOULD BE COVERED BY FELLOW AND STATE GRANTS FOR THAT. SO THAT'S THE BIGGEST PIECE THERE. THAT THEY'VE GOT THE DESIGN FOR 500,000 WITHIN THE ACTUAL FACILITY. THREE MILLION. AND YOU'VE GOT SOME VEHICLES AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS BUT STILL TO THE TUNE OF OVER THOSE FOUR YEARS. $4 MILLION AND SIT. IT ONLY HAPPENED TO COME OUT OF HIS POCKET, YOU KNOW, LESS THAN 100 AND 70,000. WHICH WHICH LINE ITEM AND YOU ON MR WILLIAMS. WHERE THE LAST ON THE LAST PAGE, I INDICATED THE SECOND, UM THE SECOND ITEM ON THE LIST, WHICH WAS THE ENGINEERING AND DESIGN OF A MAINTENANCE FACILITY FOR TRANSIT. 500,000 AND 24. IS THERE ANYTHING THAT INDICATES HOW MUCH. YES, THE 20,000 AND 24. IF YOU GO OVER TO THE RIGHT THE FUNDING SOURCES OVER TO THE RIGHT. AND AS I STATED BEFORE THE DESIGN AND MAINTENANCE OF THE FACILITY AND THE ACTUAL FACILITY ITSELF BY THE TWO BIGGEST THINGS THAT THAT WOULD BE TAKING PLACE FROM AS FAR AS PROJECTS TRENDS. WHO HAS VETTED THESE NUMBERS. VETTED IN TERMS OF DETERMINING. HOW IMPORTANT THESE THINGS ARE AND WHETHER THE
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ESTIMATES ARE ACCURATE. BUT MOSTLY HOW IMPORTANT THEY ARE. I MEAN, DO WE JUST TAKE THIS? ON FAITH FROM STAFF, OR DID SOMEBODY REALLY GRILLED STAFF AND. AND SAY, DO YOU REALLY NEED THIS? AND DO YOU NEED IT THIS YEAR? OKAY WELL, SOME OF THAT YOU'VE ALREADY ANSWERED OR COUNCIL HAS ALREADY ANSWERED FROM WHEN THE UPPER COLUMN IS BASICALLY WHAT. COUNCIL APPROVED AND ADOPTED FOR OPERA TO BE USED FOR SOME OF IT, BUT THAT WAS JUST A THAT WOULDN'T ALLOW AN ITEM. ANYTHING WASN'T I MEAN, YEAH. YOU HAD THAT YOU FARMERS STREET BUILDING. THAT WAS A LINE ITEM. AND I DO REMEMBER THAT AND I DO REMEMBER THAT SOUTHSIDE DEPOT WAS PARKS AND RECREATION RIGHT? THE MASTER PLAN. YOU HAD EQUIPMENT. YOU HAVE RADIOS YOU HAVE. POLICE RADIOS HAD FIVE RADIOS. I HAVE SEEN MUCH OF THAT. I DON'T REMEMBER SEEING A BIG, SHINY FIRE TRUCK WAS A BIG , SHINY FIRE TRUCKS BLESS IF YOU REMEMBER I SAID THAT WAS UNFUNDED, AND THAT WAS THAT'S NOT IN FISCAL YEAR, 23. THAT'S A FISCAL YEAR. 20 DOESN'T IN THE OUTER YEARS AND SO WHAT? I STATED SEVERAL TIMES WHEN I WAS GIVEN THE PRESENTATION WAS WE'RE STILL ON SOME OF THESE PROJECTS WERE STILL SEEKING AND STILL LOOKING FOR FUNDING SOURCES FOR SOME OF THESE THINGS. WELL, LET'S FOCUS ON THE FIRE TRUCK, THE BIG SHINY FIRE TRUCKS. REMEMBER WHEN MR TOM CARROLL WAS AT THE HELM. HE TOLD US SO WE GOT TO WE GOTTA GET NEW FIRE EQUIPMENT HERE. QUOTE THE WHEELS ARE ABOUT TO COME OFF THE TRUCKS CLOSED. I MEAN, I JUST REMEMBER THAT I JUST TOOK IT ON FAITH.AND WE HAD TO BORROW MONEY FOR THAT. I MEAN, WE DIDN'T HAVE THE MONEY FOR IT RIGHT? I THINK WE'VE I DON'T KNOW A NUMBER AROUND $3 MILLION STICKS IN MY HEAD. I MEAN, JUST A HUGE NUMBER. AND HERE I SEE A NEW SHINY FIRE TRUCK AGAIN. I'M THINKING WHAT'S THE WHAT'S THE SHELF LIFE ON THESE FIRE TRUCK? ME. SO MR WILLIAMS THAT YOU HAVE THE FIRE CHIEF HERE. IT WAS JUST GOING TO SAY WE HEARD AND I HAD A CONVERSATION TODAY AND CHIEF WALKING SCHEDULE. ANSWER A QUESTION, PLEASE. AND MISS WILLIAMS WALL. MS WATKINS IS COMING TO THE PODIUM. ALICE WHICH PAGE THE BIG, SHINY FIRE TRUCK IS ON. THAT WOULD BE ON LOOK AT YOUR 2024 WILL BE ONE OF THREE FOR 2024. THAT'S GOING TO BE RIGHT HERE. THANK YOU, CHIEF FIRE. E. M S. SEX. AND. WHEN TOM CARROLL WAS HERE, DID WE GET JOHN. IF I TRUCKS TO BE GET THEN I'M SORRY. WHEN MR TOM CARROLL WAS HERE. WHAT BIG SHINING FIRE TRUCKS DID WE GET AT THAT TIME? AND HE IS. THAT WAS THREE KM S THAT WE GOT AT THE TIME. I KNOW, UM THEY WERE BORN WITHIN ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO. CHIEF WITNESS CAN BE. ACTUALLY, THEY'RE A LITTLE BIT OLDER THAN THAT, SIR. AND WHAT'S WHAT'S GOING ON, UM SINCE I'VE BEEN IN THE SEAT. WE'VE HAD PROBABLY FOR BREAKDOWNS OF EACH ONE OF THOSE PIECES ON THE STREET. AND WE ARE CURRENTLY $100,000 IN DEBT. WITH REPAIRS. IN THE NEXT THREE YEARS . WE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO GET PARTS FOR THESE COMMIES. THERE WERE NO LONGER EXISTS, WHICH MEANS THEY WOULD HAVE TO MANUFACTURE PARTS FOR REPLACEMENT. AND IT WILL DOUBLE OR EVEN TRIPLE. IN THE COST. TO PREPARE THESE APPARATUS. SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THE COST OF THESE UNITS YES, IT'S EXPENSIVE, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE TRIPOLI EXPENSIVE. TO CONTINUE TO REPAIR THE FLEET. NOT JUST LOOKING AT THE TIRES. BECAUSE THE TYPE OF APPARATUS THAT THERE ARE 10 WHEELS THEY PULL ON THE INSIDE, SO WE FOUND OURSELVES WITH PLACING TIRES MORE BECAUSE OF THE WIND TEAR OF THE APPARATUS ON THE STREET. AND BECAUSE OF THAT, THAT'S BECAUSE THEN YOU HAVE THE PM ME CAUSE THE PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE THAT HAS TO HAPPEN IN ORDER FOR THE CONTRACTOR CONTINUE. SO THESE ARE COSTS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN FACTORED INTO THE BUDGET. WHEN WE LOOK AT REPLACEMENT UPKEEP. REPAIRS AND OTHER THINGS THAT COME INVOLVED WITH THE
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APPARATUS. SO WHEN YOU LOOK WHAT YOU LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW? JUST RIGHT. THERE IS THE CURRENT COST IS COSTING US KEEP IT ON THE STREET RIGHT NOW. AND WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF TRYING TO FIND FUNDING JUST TO REPLACE THE TIRES. AND ALL FOR THESE APPARATUS, THE ROLE IN THE STREET. WELL, I'M CHOKING ON THIS ONE POINT. HIGH TRUST WITH LADDER DOESN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT TIRES DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING BUT PARTS. THAT'S CORRECT, SIR. THESE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT NEED TO BE PLACED IN THE BUDGET WHERE WE HAVE TO DO ON THE PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE SIDE OF OUR APPARATUS. BECAUSE IF WE DON'T WE'RE IN THE HAVING. OUR UNITS ON THE STREET THERE WOULD BE CONSIDERED UNSAFE AND THEN THEY'LL PUT HIM OUT OF SERVICE AND WE WON'T BE THE RUN THEM AT ALL. AND BY TRUCKS ARE VERY EXPENSIVE. I'M HAVING A FLASHBACK TO TOM CARROLL AND WHEELS ABOUT COME OFF TRUMP. WE HAVE A AERIAL FIRE TRUCK NOW. CORRECT? YES, SIR. AS A COMMIE AND THE CAME ME IS THE COMPANY THAT MANUFACTURES THE TRUCK. AND THAT COMPANY. AS I PRESENTED A LITTLE BIT EARLY IS THAT PARTICULAR COMPANY WHEN NO LONGER BE MAKING PARTS TO DO THE MAINTENANCE. ON THAT APPARATUS. THEY GOT THEIR BASICALLY GOING OUT OF BUSINESS. SO WHAT HAPPENS IS BECAUSE WE DEPEND ON CERTAIN COMPANIES TO REPAIR AND DO OUR PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE ON OUR APPARATUS. WE WILL BE STUCK PAYING FOR THE MAINTENANCE AND UPKEEP. TO MANUFACTURERS TO MANUFACTURED THE REPLACEMENT PARTS FOR THE APPARATUS, WHICH IS GOING TO BE DOUBLE. I HAVE NO WAY OF JUDGING ANY OF THIS. WHEN DID WE LAST BY A AND AERIAL FIRE TRUCKS WITH LADDERS. FROM THE INFORMATION THAT THAT RESEARCH AND HAVE BEEN GIVEN, UM THOSE UNITS UP DUE TO BE REPLACED.BECAUSE AVERAGE AVERAGE FIVE UNITS LIFESPAN IS ABOUT EIGHT TO MAYBE 10 YEARS. AS FAR AS RUNNING SMOOTHLY ON THE STREET. BUT BECAUSE OF ALL OF THE COST IN THE PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE THAT HAD NOT BEEN SITTING THE BUDGET. PRIOR TO ME COMING HERE. A LOT OF THAT HAS NOT BEEN DONE.
AND NOW WITH IT BEING DONE, THESE ARE THE THINGS JUST A FEW THINGS THAT NEED TO HAPPENED WITH THE APPARATUS IN ORDER TO KEEP THEM SOMEWHAT HEALTHY ON THE STREET TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE SERVICES TO THE CITIZENS. I'M LOOKING AT HERE, CHIEF WALKING. DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH MAINTENANCE. TIME. MOTOROLA RADIO SYSTEM UPGRADE. FIRE TRUCK WITH. WHEN DID WE GET A LOT ON AERIAL LADDER TRUCK PLAYER? WHAT? WHAT I CAN DO FOR YOU, SIR. I CAN GO BACK. AND THAT CAN DO THE COMPLETE RUNDOWN AND STUDY SO YOU CAN HAVE EVERYTHING IN PLACE OF ALL THE KNEES ASSESSMENTS. THAT OUR CURRENT TO INCLUDE THE PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE BECAUSE WHEN YOU WHEN YOU ASK FOR A NEW APPARATUS THE PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE COMES IN. WITH THE CONTRACT. BUT WHAT HAS HAPPENED BECAUSE A LOT OF THOSE THINGS HAD NOT BEEN DONE. NOW YOU'RE PAYING INTO THE CONTRACT BECAUSE OF CONTRACT HAS RUN OUT. SO WHAT I CAN DO FOR YOU AND OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS AS WELL GET TOGETHER A COMPLETE RUNDOWN OF THE TOTAL COST OF WHAT IT COSTS TO ACTUALLY RUN.
MAINTAIN AND KEEP THE UP. UPKEEP ON ALL THE APPARATUS TO INCLUDE THE AGE OF THE FLEET. TO GIVE YOU A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT IT COSTS TO RUN THAT PROVIDE THAT SERVICE ON THE STREET. IF YOU ALL WILL ALLOW ME THIS OR YOU VERY PATIENT AND KNOW VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE AND APPRECIATE SOME WHICH YOUR COMMITMENT TO PETERSBURG WE ALL DO. BUT I'M FOCUSING ON THE. AND I KEEP GOING BACK. DOLLARS OF RADIO. HEAD. ONE AND THREE QUARTERS MILLION DOLLARS FOR ARIEL, FIVE. I THINK IT IS TIME. WELL IT CHIEF WALKER'S GET US THE REPORT ON ALL OF THEM
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BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT AERIAL TRUCK THAT WE HAVE IS A 99 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT TRUCK ONE.WHICH IS THINK DOWN MORE SO THAN I KNOW THAT HUGE CAUSE IS THE CAUSE OF THAT HE. ARIEL CAT AS THEY CALL IT, FIRE APPARATUS. SO I KNOW WHAT'S UP IN AGE. LET US GET THE REPORT ON ALL OF THAT, AND THEN WE CAN BETTER PLAN FOR FUTURE NEEDS. BUT I KNOW THAT ONE IS AT LEAST OVER 20 YEARS OLD. THAT IS A LONG TIME. WELL I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA AND CHIEF OF WATKINS IF YOU COULD ALSO THAT COUNCIL? NO GIVE US AN ITEMIZATION OF WHAT? WHAT WE BOUGHT. I GUESS IT WAS IN 2017.
MAYBE IT WAS IN 2018. BUT WE MADE SOME BIG CAPITAL PURCHASES AT THAT. ON THIS STRONG RECOMMENDATION OF TOM CARROLL. AND I KNOW THAT TIME COUNSELOR GOVERNMENT. I KNOW THAT WE WERE REPLACING. R C GRAVES THAT WAS 1987 87. YES AT THE TIME, SO THEY WERE WELL OVER. 20 PLUS YEARS OLD AND I KNOW THEY WAS AN IMMEDIATE NEED THAT WHERE I PUT AT THE TIME, SO LET'S LET'S GET THEIR INVENTORY AND SEE HOW WE CAN BEST ADDRESS THESE KNEES AND KEEP THE PUBLIC SAFE AND KEEP OUT FIREFIGHTERS SAFE AS WELL AGAIN. WELL I THINK THAT'S I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. I JUST, YOU KNOW. COUNCIL JUST AS INSIGHT INTO THIS ONCE A YEAR FOR STILL ONE COUNCIL MEETING AND IT'S HARD TO APPRECIATE. WITH THAT BRIEF. EDUCATION. WHAT WE REALLY NEED. AND WHAT WE CAN POSTPONE SAFELY. SO THANK YOU, MR MAN. AND THANK YOU, MISS WATKINS. THANK YOU APPRECIATE.
THANK YOU, CHIEF. NEXT, UM WILLIAMS. I THINK THE OTHER QUESTION THAT COUNCIL COUPLE OF HANDS WITH SOMEONE TO, UM THE PROCESS WHEN YOU WENT DOWN TO THE C, I P. I KNOW YOU SAID DOWN WITH DIRECTORS AND A LOT OF THESE NEEDS HAVE BEEN PENDING NEEDS. THAT MY BOY, CAN YOU JUST EXPLAIN THAT PROCESS? A LOT OF THESE PROJECTS ARE PROJECTS HAVE BEEN ON THE LIST FOR A WHILE. SO WHAT WE DID WAS EXCUSE ME. WHAT WE DID WAS WHEN THE WHOLE OFFER. THING CAME UP WHAT WE DID. I KNOW INTERNALLY TO US, AND THEY WERE ALL DEPARTMENTS DID, TOO. WAS THAT WHICH WE'RE WHICH WE WERE NOT USED TO DOING WAS LOOK OVER ENTIRE DEPARTMENT. PRIORITIZE THE PROJECTS THAT NEED TO BE DONE HOW MUCH THEY COST. AND SO THAT WAS A SPRINGBOARD REALLY, TO ME. THAT WAS THE SPRINGBOARD BEING A FINANCIAL. THAT WAS A SPRINGBOARD FOR MEDIA. WE HAVE FINALLY ASSESSING AND LOOKING AT OUR NEEDS PROJECTS AND PRIORITIZING THEM. THAT'S WHY I WAS ABLE TO SAY I REMEMBER ON THE LIST. WILCOX LAKE WAS LIKE NUMBER ONE. THAT WAS THAT WAS THE NUMBER ONE THAT WE HAD 20 ITEMS THAT WE SUBMITTED WHERE OTHER DEPARTMENTS DID, TOO. SO BY THE TIME I WENT AROUND AND MET WITH EVERYBODY AND TALK TO EVERYBODY WE FIRST LOOKED AT, OKAY. AND I APOLOGIZE ABOUT YOU KNOW YOU ARE NOT BEING ABLE TO SEE THAT INFORMATION. BUT WHAT I WAS ATTEMPTING TO DO IS SHOW YOU THE ACTUAL PROJECT ITSELF. THE COST OF IT AND THE FUNDING SOURCE AND IF WE HAD THE FUNDING WHERE IT WAS COMING FROM, UM AND IF IT WAS UNFUNDED TO HAVE ONE COLUMN OF ILLNESS SIDE WHERE YOU CAN JUST USE THIS ONE TO GO THERE AND ALL THE UNFUNDED ITEMS AND SEE HOW MUCH THEY COST. THEN THEY WERE UNFUNNY. SO WHAT THAT DOES IS THAT JUST SCREAMS OUT TO ME THAT OKAY, THEY WERE CONSIDERED IMPORTANT ENOUGH TO PUT ON THE SLIDE, HOWEVER. WE KNOW THAT WE NEED TO DO SOME MORE. TO GET SOME MORE GRANT FUNDS AND TAKE ADVANTAGE OF, YOU KNOW, LEGISLATURE, YOU KNOW, LEGISLATIVE ITEMS THAT KIND OF THING SO DEATH. YOU KNOW, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE DID. AND I'M FAMILIAR WITH UTILITIES AND PUBLIC WORKS, SO I KNOW SOME OF THESE WERE ALREADY KIND OF GOING ON ANYWAY. SO THAT'S WHY I KNOW ABOUT THE DIFFERENT FUNDING SOURCES THAT WE ALREADY HAVE ONE. REIMBURSABLE WAS NOT REIMBURSABLE. SO. YEAH. THANK YOU. FOR THE EXPLANATION IS THE WILLIAMS BUT JUST JUST SPEAK ON BEHALF OF COUNCIL THIS C I P NEEDS IS SIMILAR TO. IS SO MANY NUMBERS AND SO MANY WISHES. IT'S ALMOST LIKE THE SEARS WISH BOOK YOU GET FOR CHRISTMAS. AND EVERYONE HAS PRESENTED. THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT I WISH I WOULD HAVE. THE PROBLEM IS THAT YOU KNOW, WE NEED THESE THINGS A LITTLE EARLIER. WE KIND OF USED TO GET THE WISH BOOK IS KIDS, I THINK ABOUT OCTOBER SO WE CAN LOOK AT IT AND LOOK AT THE NUMBERS AND FIGURE OUT WHAT WE COULD AFFORD. WHAT WE COULDN'T SO IF WE COULD GET GET THESE THINGS A LITTLE EARLIER AND I KNEW IT WOULD HELP COUNSELING COVERAGE AS WELL. TO BE ABLE TO
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GET A MORE AND MORE OF UNDERSTANDING. STUDYING BEFORE THIS WE'RE DEFINITELY. TOO EASY INTERPRETATION OF WHAT'S GOING ON. NEXT I GO TO COUNCILMAN WILSON SMITH. THANK YOU SO MUCH.CAN WE GO BACK TO THE FIRST PAGE OF THAT? 23 20? 22 23. FOR THE. FARMERS STREET BUILDING THE MONEY THAT'S BEING ALLOCATED THIS YEAR. WILL THE WORK START STARTED? IT'S ALREADY STARTED.
SO THEN THIS THIS WILL CARRY US THROUGH UNTIL 24 YOU LOOK AT 24 YOU CC IN 2024? YES, SO THAT SO, BUT WHEN WILL PEOPLE BE ABLE TO OPERATE OUT OF THAT BUILDING? OKAY SO IF 2023 FISCAL YEAR 2023 2020 24. I KNOW HE'S BEEN MEETING WITH THEY WERE PART OF THE GROUP THAT WAS MEETING TODAY JUST ON THE SPACE AND NEEDS ASSESSMENT, SO HE'S BEEN FROM AN H V. A C STANDPOINT AND MOLD REMEDIATION KIND OF STUFF, OKAY? GOOD AFTERNOON COUNCIL MEMBERS. MR CITY MANAGER. MR CITY ATTORNEY. AH! WE HAD JUST CAME OUT OF HIM. MEETING WITH ENGINEERING NEARS, WE MET WITH BOTH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT THIS MORNING IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT THIS AFTERNOON. AND BASICALLY WHAT WERE THE POINT WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW IS WE'VE GONE OVER THEIR SPACE NEEDS ANALYSIS. WHAT THE NEEDS ARE FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. AS FAR AS PUTTING THEM IN A BUILDING. UM LOOKING AT THEIR FUTURE NEEDS TO EXPAND THE SAME WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. UM, THERE'S SOME.
QUESTIONS THAT PROBABLY WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT, UM, IN THE NEAR FUTURE AS FAR AS THE NEEDS ARE GREATER THAN THE SPACE. WE HAVE AVAILABLE. WHAT NEEDS WE CAN CUT . WHAT? WHAT MEANS WE NEED TO LOOK AT WILL TAKE FURTHER DISCUSSION WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. THE ADMINISTRATION AND I'M SURE WITH COUNSEL. WE ARE PROUD. WE HAVE $1.2 MILLIONR 23 4 23. YES. 24. IT'S AN ONGOING PROCESS. COSTS ARE CONSTANTLY GOING UP. THE NEEDS ARE. ARE THERE FOR BOTH BOTH DEPARTMENTS AND THE COMMUNITY FOR WHAT WE LOOK AT IN THE FUTURE. INCREASED STAFFING LEVELS, INCREASED TRAINING, ETCETERA. AH, I WOULD THINK. ONCE THESE QUESTIONS ARE ANSWERED, AND WE HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT IT, WE COULD PROBABLY MOVE FORWARD WITH THE ACTUAL. CONSTRUCTION REHABBING OF THE BUILDING. I WOULD GUESS IT'S PROBABLY 2 TO 3 YEARS DOWN THE LINE. OKAY THERE'S A LOT OF MOLD REMEDIATION. THE H V. A C SYSTEM IS COMPLETELY WARRANT PAST ITS ITS USEFUL LIFE NEEDS REPLACEMENT. AS THERE ARE SOME ROOF ISSUES. SOME VENTILATION ARE OF WATER INTRUSION ISSUES THAT WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH. UM I CAN'T ANSWER ALL YOUR QUESTIONS TODAY. I UNDERSTAND. WE'RE CERTAINLY WORKING TOWARDS FINDING THE ANSWERS. SO I THINK MY BIGGER QUESTION IS WE'RE GONNA SINK A LOT OF MONEY INTO IT. FOR THIS YEAR, THEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE FOLLOWING YEAR FOR A LOT MORE MONEY. BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE THE BUILDING ITSELF.
I MEAN, I'M WONDERING. IS IT REALLY WORTH EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE PUTTING INTO IT AT THIS POINT? DO WE SEE THAT IT'S GOING TO BE WHAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT CAN ACTUALLY USE. WILL THERE BE IS. WILL THERE BE ENOUGH SPACE? THE SPACE ANALYSIS SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE SAYING ACTUALLY, IT MAY NOT BE AND IF WE'RE DOING. IT SOUNDS LIKE EVERYTHING HAS TO BE DONE IN THIS BUILDING. EVERY MOLD THE ROOF. IT HAS A LOT OF PROBLEMS CONDITION. ACTUALLY, IT'S SOUND MECHANICALLY. IT'S GOT A LOT OF PROBLEMS, BUT THOSE PROBLEMS CAN BE FIXED. UM THE IN I WOULD SAY. AFTER THIS
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DISCUSSIONS WE HAD TODAY. IN FIRE CHIEF IS HERE. I DON'T KNOW. MR. MR CHRISTIAN'S NOT HERE. THE BUILDING CAN PROBABLY ACCOMMODATE THE NEEDS OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. IF WE MOVE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IN THERE, I DON'T KNOW. WE'LL HAVE TO LOOK AT CUTTING SOME OF THOSE NEEDS WANTS WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL THEM. BUT THAT'S A DISCUSSION PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE VERY SOON IN THE FUTURE. I UNDERSTAND. ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS. NOW, THAT'S ALL RIGHT. LOOK AH! TO UM PARKS AND RECREATION REHAB. DO WE OWN THE PARKS AND RECREATION BUILDING THE CITY ON THAT BUILDING? YES, WE DO. OKAY? AND IT'S GOING TO TAKE 306,002. OR TO DO WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO. JUST. THINK THIS WAS. THIS WAS THE PARKS AND THE REFURBISHING OF THE PARKS. OH, OF THE PARK'S NOT THE BUILDING. OKAY JUST SAID PARKS AND RECREATION REHAB. IT DOESN'T SAY WHAT? YOUR REHAB, RIGHT. OKAY, SO ALL CITY PARKS AND THAT THAT'S WHAT THAT OKAY, THANK YOU. THAT EXPLAINS IT. UM. I DON'T RECALL OUR CITYWIDE MASTER PLAN. WHAT IS OUR PLAN? WELL I THINK IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, IT STARTED OUT AFTER DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN. THAT'S WHAT IT STARTED OUT. MR WILLIAM SULLIVAN. MR MORRIS HERE. GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND VICE MAYOR MEMBERS COUNCIL STAFF. CURRENTLY WHAT WE ARE IS REVEALING IS WHAT'S CALLED THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN. THAT IS CURRENTLY IN THE PROCESS OF BEING REVIEWED. UH OUR TARGET TIMEFRAME IS NEXT MONTH NEAR THE END TO BE COMPLETED. AS FAR AS A CITYWIDE PLAN FOR MY UNDERSTANDING. THAT'S GOING TO BE WHAT WOULD BE DONE. CONCURRENTLY WHILE THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN IS BEING DONE. AND WE'RE DOING THE DRAFTING OF THAT NOW. SO WHAT WOULD HAPPEN? THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN IS GOING TO BE A COMPONENT OF A CITYWIDE MASTER PLAN. OKAY? BUT WHAT I'M WHAT I'M ASKING IS WHAT IS THE ACTUAL PLAN OR PLANS? WHAT ARE THE HOW DO YOU KNOW IT'S GOING TO CAUSE $200,000 WITHOUT HAVING A PLAN? TO LOOK AT. I DON'T ADD UP. IF I'M PLANNING TO GO TO GEORGIA I KNOW HOW MANY MILES THAT NEED TO GO. ACTUALLY NOT REALLY. BUT I KNOW YOU KNOW HOW MUCH IT'S GONNA COST ME TO GET THE PLANE AND CAN MAKE PLANS BASED ON THINGS. SO WHAT ARE THE ACTUAL PLANS? OKAY, SO. WHEN THIS WHEN I STARTED ON THIS C I P. FIRST THING I WENT TO DO WAS GO TO THE OFF OF FUNDING THAT HAD BEEN. APPROVED AND ADOPTED AND IT SAID DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAYING 100 $100,000, AND THEN IT SAID LOCAL MATCH, BUT THEN THAT AMOUNT HAS INCREASED $200,000, SO IT'S NOT LIKE WE WENT OUT. AND MET WITH. A CONSULTANT TO SAY, OKAY, HOW MUCH IS THIS PLAYING? GONNA COST? THAT WAS HOW MUCH BECAUSE THAT'S HOW MUCH WE WERE GOING TO FIND. TO COME UP WITH TO COME UP WITH THE PLAN. I THINK MAYBE I'M I'M NOT EXPLAINING MYSELF. I DON'T UNDERSTAND. FUNDING. TO COME UP WITH A PLAN AS OPPOSED TO HAVING A PLAN TO FUND WHAT? WHAT IS THE ACTUAL PLAN? OR PLANS. IS IT $200,000 FOR THE DOWNTOWN PLAN, AND THEN WE COME BACK LATER FOR THE CITY WHERE PLAN OR IS IT 300,000 FOR THE DOWNTOWN PLAN AND 100 FOR THE CITYWIDE PLAN? AND WHAT IS THE PLAN FOR BOTH? THANK YOU, MR WILSON SMITH.RIGHT NOW. THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN HAS A SCOPE OF WORK THAT WAS PUT OUT FOR CONSULTANTS TO
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BRING BACK THE CITYWIDE MASTER PLAN DOES NOT AT THIS POINT. WE'RE STILL DRAFTING THAT TO GO OUT. OKAY? THE NUMBERS THAT YOU HAVE HERE OR MORE BUDGETARY BECAUSE THEY WOULD NEED TO BE NEGOTIATED ONCE A FINALIST HAS BEEN SELECTED. OKAY OKAY. OKAY SO WE DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT THE PLAN IS. SO THEN MY NEXT QUESTION AFTER THAT IS IN TERMS OF PRIORITY. FOR CLP. HOW DOES A MASTER PLAN WHICH WE DO NOT KNOW WHAT IT IS. TRUMP. UM FIRE AND SAFETY AND ESPECIALLY MAINTENANCE OF FIRE VEHICLES. BECAUSE I MEAN, THIS CITY CAN'T RISK OF FIRE DEPARTMENT ON ITS WAY TO A FIRE. AND LET'S SAY TO TIE US FALL OFF OF A PART FALLS OUT OF IT AND. YOU KNOW, BY THE TIME WE WAIT TO AUDIT APART, AND COMPANY DOESN'T EXIST ANYWHERE IN THE WHOLE CITY WOULD HAVE BURNED. I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND OUR PRIORITIES HERE. WE'RE PRIORITIZING PLAN THAT. I'M SORRY. MY FINGER MOOD. WE'RE PRIORITIZING A PLAN THAT WE DON'T KNOW. WHAT IS WHEN WE HAVE UM. CURRENT FIRE TRUCKS THAT WE KNOW NEEDS A NEW I WROTE 100 OR BREAKDOWN. $100,000 IN DEBT FOR REPAIRS. THAT WE'RE IN DEBT FOR THESE REPAIRS, SO THAT SHOULD IN MY OPINION, BE A PRIORITY OVER SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE NOT YET. GOTTEN THE FULL INFORMATION ON THAT'S THAT'S JUST MY, UM MY OPINION. THE. AND THANK YOU FOR THE INFORMATION ON THE PARK, SO I'M GLAD THAT WORKED OUT THAT WAY. I'M SORRY. I GUESS I'M TAKING A LOT OF TIME. THE DRAINAGE STUDY. UM YOU HAVE SLAGLE AND HAIR. STORM DRAINAGE. I FORGOT WHAT PATIENTS SOME, BUT I KNOW IT. IT'S ON THERE. WITH, UM WITH THE REBUILDING OF THE PEN OAKS APARTMENTS. WHICH ARE AT SLATE GLE AND COMES DOWN THAT WAY. IS IT AND THEN TAKE GIS FOR ANY OF US TO REBUILD WITHOUT A STUDY BEING DONE FOR THAT AREA PRIOR TO REBUILDING THAT AREA. OKAY SO YOU'VE GOT TO STUDY. OKAY SO YOU'VE GOT THE STUDY THAT'S GOING TO BE DONE. THE CITYWIDE RIGHT CITY WIDE RANGING STUDY. THAT'S GOING TO BE DONE, WHICH WE GOT A GREAT WE GOT GRANT MONEY FOR THAT. SO THAT INCLUDES THAT THEN? NO. THE 2.2 MILLION IS JUST FOR TO LOOK ALL OVER THE CITY OF PETERSBURG AND DO A STUDY IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO FIND. THEY'RE GONNA BE COMING IN. YOU KNOW, THEY'RE ON THE OUTSIDE COMING IN. THEY DON'T LIVE HERE THEM OUTSIDE COMING IN AND LOOK AT THE DRAINAGE SYSTEM FOR THE WHOLE CITY. AND THAT'S THAT'S WHAT THAT TWO MILLION IS FOR. THAT'S PROBABLY WHAT 18 MONTHS ENDEAVOR. I MEAN, THAT'S A THAT'S AN INTENSE ENDEAVOR AT THE SAME TIME WE KNEW ABOUT THESE, YOU KNOW, WE KNOW ABOUT THESE JUST BY LIVING HERE. OKAY SO MANY DO THAT WHEN THEY DO THAT, MR MAN. CAUSE. UM, I CAN SEE IF I CAN TRY TO RESPOND TO COUNSEL AND WILSON SMITH COUNSEL . MR SMITH. I BELIEVE THIS IS WHAT THIS IS, IS A NEEDS ASSESSMENT OF WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO THE CITY TO PRIORITIZE. SORT OF WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE BASICALLY. AND YOU CAN'T EXPAND ANYTHING IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO DO SO. IS THAT ORDER? THEM DREAMS. THE DRAIN IS STUDY AND IN HIS STUDY THIS MASTER PLAN THAT I KEEP HEARING BEING TALKED ABOUT, UM AND THAT IS BASICALLY A NEEDS ASSESSMENT FOR WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO PRIORITIZE WHAT OUR DESIRES ARE FOR THE FUTURE PETERSBURG SO LET'S SAY DOWN HERE ON 36. YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH INFRASTRUCTURE. TO PROVIDE SERVICES FOR A NEW BUSINESS THAT MIGHT WANT TO BUILD IN YOUR AREA. OR ANYTHING OF THAT NEEDS, UM OR. WELL ANYWHERE IN THE CITY . BUT THE BASIC LEADS ASSESSMENT . WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE CITY NEEDS TO DO TO MEET. UM, WHAT IS REQUIRED FOR UM, NEW ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN THE CITY AS WELL AND OUR OWN NEEDS WITH RESPECT TO THE APPARATUSES AND[01:00:06]
THOSE THINGS THAT ARE NEEDED FOR THE CITY FOR EMERGENCY PURPOSES. WE NEED TO HAVE SOME KIND OF NEEDS ASSESSMENT. TO DO SO. AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT THIS MASTER PLAN SHOULD BE ALL ABOUT, IS HOW WE MOVE FORWARD. IN GOVERNMENT AND HOW WE MM. POSITION OURSELVES TO EXPAND OUR FUNDS BEFORE WE ADOPT THIS BUDGET. GREAT CUSTOMER, WILSON SMITH. SO THEN. THE WAY THAT THIS IS OUTLINED ON HERE, IT'S NOT ACTUALLY THE PRIORITIES WE UP TO COUNSEL TO PRIORITIZE WHAT YOU HAVE GIVEN US THE COUNCIL TO PROBLEMS HAVE NOT LISTED IT IN PRIORITY FOR THIS IS BAD. THIS IS CAN THIS IS BAD DEPARTMENT BY AREA. THIS IS NOTHING BAD, OKAY? ALL RIGHT. SO LET ME JUST ASK YOU ONE MORE TIME, BECAUSE MAYBE I DIDN'T SAY IT RIGHT. I WAS LOOKING AT YOU'RE GOING TO DO THE CITY WHERE DRAINAGE STUDY. I UNDERSTAND THAT BUT THEN YOU CAME FURTHER DOWN. YOU'RE GOING TO DO ANOTHER DRAINAGE STUDY. ON SLIGO AND HAIR SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY YOU'RE DOING TUNE PROJECT. THAT'S THE PROJECT PROJECT. OKAY THANK YOU. MAKES SENSE PROJECTS. SO WE GOT PROJECTS ALREADY SLATED FOR DRAINAGE THAT WE KNOW ABOUT RIGHT? OKAY. BUT THEN THE STUDY IS GOING TO COME BACK AND SAY OKAY, WELL, THIS AREA OVER HERE MAY BE CONTRIBUTING TO JUST LIKE A HAIR. OKAY TO IDENTIFY. YOU KNOW, ON THE CITY WHERE BASIS THEY'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO TELL US THE PRIORITIES THAT'S IMPACTED. SOME OF THESE OTHER THINGS THAT WE SEE OF. THAT MAKES SENSE. SO WHEN YOU AND IT'S JUST A QUESTION AS THEY BUILD PEN OAKS. IN THAT SAME AREA. HOW DOES IT AFFECT THIS LEGAL IN HAIR DRAINAGE PROJECT OR SHOULD THIS PROJECT BE INCLUDED WHILE YOU'RE DOWN THERE BUILDING ANYWAY? OKAY WELL, DARRELL WALKER LAST OWN WATER GUY WHO'S OKAY THIS ON THE DRAINING STUDY. AFTERNOON. MAYOR COUNCIL STAY. JUST A POINT OF CLARITY. UM, THE CITY WHERE DRAINAGE STUDY. IS FOR THE ENTIRE AREA. THERE IS ONE STUDY THAT'S ALREADY BEEN DONE FOR LAKE MARK. AND THE PROJECT THAT YOU C MINUS CLEAR MARK. OUR PROJECTS THAT WERE CAME OUT OF THE LAKE MINE DRAINAGE STUDY. WHICH HAS ALREADY BEEN DONE. SO THOSE PROJECTS ARE ALREADY. COMING FROM A STUDY THAT'S BEEN DONE THE OTHER PROJECTS UP AT THE TOP IN THE OUTLINE YEARS ON ON ON THE FUTURE YEARS ARE COMING FROM THE CITY WATCH STUDY. FOR THE TWO SEPARATE STUDIES. I JUST WANT TO KIND OF MAKE THAT CLEAR. THE SINGLE HAIR PROJECT IS ACTUALLY UPSTREAM OF THE PINOKE SUBDIVISION. THE WORK THAT'S GOING TO BE DONE ON THE SLOGAN HERE PROJECT. IS NOT REALLY GOING TO BE IMPACTED GREATLY BY THE REDEVELOPMENT OF PINOTS. THANK $10 WILL SOMEWHAT CHANGE. YOU KNOW THE ACTUAL CITY DRAINAGE. UM PIPES ARE NOT REALLY BEING TOUCHED. UM THE ACTUAL STORMWATER MANAGEMENT. UM FACTORS THAT ARE COMING INTO THOSE PIPES ARE STILL GOING TO BE BASICALLY THE SAME OR THERE WILL BE MANAGED BY BY EITHER ON SITE STORMWATER OR OTHER THINGS. UM SO IN A NUTSHELL. GENERALLY WHAT'S BEING REDEVELOPED ON PIN OAKS BUT NOT GREATLY IMPACT? WHAT'S WHAT'S PROPOSED FOR THE SLIGO HERE PROJECT, OKAY? THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL I HAD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. QUESTION COUNSELOR HERE. YES, MY QUESTION . ARE ANY OF THESE PRICES THAT YOU KNOW OF? AUGUST. LET'S GET BACK TO A COUNCILMAN. COUPLE OFY INFLATED? I MEAN, DO WE ARE THESE LIKE YOU DON'T KNOW. YOU JUST GET THEM FROM THE DEPARTMENTS. I DON'T THINK THEY'RE INFLATED. AS YOU KNOW HER, BUT EVERYTHING'S GOING UP SO MY REASON FOR SAYING THAT IS I MEAN I MEAN, OF COURSE, EVERYBODY AND CERTAIN THINGS THAT WE KNOW WE DO NEED. BUT, YOU KNOW WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE FELT OUT TO WISH LIST FROM THE NEEDLESS DEFINITELY, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF DEPARTMENTS MADE SAID WELL CASES. WE HAD OPERA MONEY THAT'S JUST THREW. EVERYTHING IS SO WE HAVE TO OURSELF. OUT WITH THE NEED. AND[01:05:06]
WHAT IS A WARRANT? YOU KNOW? YEAH. YEAH. NECESSITY. THANK YOU. A NECESSITY. SO UM, AND OF COURSE YOU KNOW, IT ALL COMES DOWN TO US. BUT WE ARE LOOKING AT THE GUIDANCE FROM THE DEPARTMENT. HIS UH AND WHAT HAVE YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT WE DO HERE PRACTICE THAT ARE ALREADY IN THE MIX THAT WE HAVE ALREADY VOTED FOR. BUT THAT'S THAT'S MY ONLY CONCERN. YOU KNOW, NOT TRYING TO DIG THROUGH EACH ONE, AND WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN WE DO VOTE WHETHER WE DO IT NAME OR WE DO IT. COUPLE OF YEARS FROM NOW, YOU KNOW? MM THERE IS A NEED AND NOT VERY NOT A WAR.SO THAT'S NOT OUT OF QUESTION FOR YOU. THAT'S MORE OF A STATEMENT TO ALL OF US. AND WHAT HAVE YOU BECAUSE SEEM LIKE I KNOW THINGS BREAK DOWN, AND I KNOW YOU NEED TO UPDATE EQUIPMENT AND THINGS LIKE THAT. I UNDERSTAND THAT I KNOW WE PUT BAND AIDS ON CERTAIN SITUATION WHERE WE NEED THE WHOLE THING. BUT IF IT'S A NEED, WE NEED TO TRY TO OUR BEST TO MEET THAT NEED AND NOT THE WARRANTS AND THE BELLS AND WHISTLES. SO THAT'S A STATEMENT. THANK YOU, MR MAYOR. IF I IF I COULD, SO, SEE I P IS A POINT IN TIME, RIGHT? YOU'RE SUPPORTING TIME OF PROJECTS. THIS SHOULD BE LIKE AN EVER EVOLVING EVERY DAY AS YOU FIND OUT INFORMATION. UPDATE I MEAN, THAT'S REALLY WHAT A TYPICAL C I P IS AND WE'VE WE'VE STARTED HERE. MM BUT FIVE YEARS TYPICALLY, I MEAN, YOU COULD HAVE, YOU KNOW, GO OUT TO SOME OF THEM. GO OUT TO 10 10 YEARS, BUT YOU KNOW, WE JUST NEED TO GET INTO THE HABIT OF GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS, AND WE HAVEN'T BEEN THROUGH THIS PROCESS AND LONG TIME. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, COUNCILMAN COOPER.
MR MAYOR, YOU USED A GOOD TERM AND THAT WAS PROCESSED. AND I HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT BOTH PROCESS AND SUBSTANCE. I KNOW FROM. OUR OPERATING BUDGET AND JUST OBSERVING THE PROCESS. YOU CAN COME UP WITH A BUDGET. TO SPEND ANY MAN OF MONEY. AND GO TO KILLING SOMEONE. HILLS POINT.
THERE'S NOBODY TO PROTECT COUNSEL FROM. HE ALSO BEING IN THE DATE INUNDATED BY WANTS INSTEAD OF NEEDS AND DEPARTMENT HEADS GET TOGETHER AND PROBABLY LOBBY. SOMEBODY AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK THEY'RE DOING A GOOD JOB BECAUSE HE A LOT OF MONEY FOR THEIR DEPARTMENT. THERE'S NOBODY TO PROTECT US FROM THAT, AND WE HAVE NO WAY OF KNOWING WHETHER THAT'S GOING ON OR NOT. I FEEL LIKE A MAN WHO JOE. SOME OF THEM FOUND HIMSELF IN THE AMAZON RIVER, AND ALL OF A SUDDEN IS BEING ATTACKED BY 1000 BARRACUDAS. I DON'T I DON'T HAVE ANY REAL CONFIDENCE IN IN IN THIS BUDGET. AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO ABOUT IT. I MEAN, THE INTERIM CITY MANAGER HAS BEEN IN THE CHAIR FOR LESS THAN A WEEK. UM. I DON'T KNOW. I JUST DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE NOW LET ME GO TO SUBSTANCE. THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN IS SUDDENLY MORPHED INTO A CITYWIDE MASTER PLAN WITHOUT I MEAN, IT'S JUST WORDS ON PAPER, BUT THE WORDS CHANGED UP TO NOW IT'S BEEN A DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN TODAY. IT'S A CITYWIDE MASTER PLAN. SAME NUMBER $200,000, BUT IT'S SUDDENLY MORPHED. UM. AND I DON'T KNOW QUITE WHO WAS AUTHORIZED TO MAKE THAT CHANGE.
OR WHY IT HAPPENED. AND THEN TO FOLLOW UP ON. THE GOOD COMMENTS OF MY FRIEND, TRICYCLE WILSON SMITH. UM SHE TALKED ABOUT REALLY OPERATIONAL COSTS FOR RUNNING THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND HOW IMPORTANT THAT WAS, BUT THAT'S NOT PART OF OPERATIONAL COSTS, YOU KNOW? HERE IN EURO MAINTENANCE. THAT'S NOT IN THE CAPITAL BUDGET, IS IT? RIGHT? SO I MEAN, THAT'S AN IMPORTANT CONCERN, AND I SHARE IT. BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS DOCUMENTS ALL ABOUT. THIS IS THE CAPITAL.
CAPITAL PROJECTS BUDGET. AND IF WE'RE NOT. MAINTAINING THE FIRE TRUCKS, THEN THE PLACE TO ADDRESS THAT IS IN THE OPERATIONAL BUDGET. SO I RESPECT VERY MUCH CONCERN OF MR ESCA WILSON SMITH FOR THE SAFETY OF THE PUBLIC, WHICH ALL OF US OBVIOUSLY SHARE. UM, BUT THAT'S NOT THE SUBJECT OF THIS CAPITAL BUDGET. THIS IS A CAPTAIN, THIS IS A BIG TICKET LONG TERM
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EXPENDITURE. I'M NOT SURE HOW CAPITAL BUDGET. UM. ELIGIBLE ITEM IS DEFINED, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT HAS A LIFE OF SOME NUMBER OF YEARS. UM AND IT'S NOT OPERATIONS. SO ANY EVENT I DON'T WANT TO. ANYONE TO THINK THAT I AM OBLIVIOUS OR DON'T CARE ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY ARE VERY MUCH DO AS WE ALL DO. BUT UM, THIS IS A CAPITAL BUDGET AND NOT AN OPERATIONAL BUDGET.LET ME GO BACK TO THE CITY WIDE MASTER PLAN. HOW DID IT GET? HOW DID THE WORDS MORE FROM CITY FROM DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN TO CITYWIDE MASTER PLAN? MR GOVERNOR TO MAKE IT A LITTLE MORE INCLUSIVE. THE MAYOR AN RFP OUT FOR THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN. BUT WE HAVE TO THANK MR MOORE HAS WORKING AT SOME FUNDING EXPANDED THE MILLION DEVELOPMENT STANDPOINT, SIR. IT COULD IMPACT THE OTHER SIX WARDS. WELL, NOW, WAIT A MINUTE. AH! ARE WE ALL? ARE WE NOT GOING TO HAVE A DOWNTOWN MASK? YES SIR. WE ARE AND HOW MUCH ARE WE BUDGETING FOR IT? WE'RE IN NEGOTIATION WITH THAT RIGHT NOW. SO THAT'S WHAT $100,000 BEFORE. WHERE WE GO GET THE MONEY FOR HOW MUCH HAVE WE BUDGETING OR RESERVING FOR A PLAN OUTSIDE OF THE DOWNTOWN MASK? WE HAVEN'T DONE SO THAT THAT'S WHAT MR MORRIS BEEN WORKING WITH ME ON USING SOME RESOURCES. THE NEGOTIATION PHASE IS STILL GOING ON, BUT THEY ARE P PROCESSOR. WELL WHAT DOES THIS CAPITAL BUDGETS? A CITYWIDE MASTER PLAN? $200,000. IF IT'S. THAT 200,000 REALLY DOESN'T APPLY TO A CITYWIDE MASK. SO WE'RE TRYING TO GET THE MOST BANG FOR OUR BUCK GLAD, BUT TO GET THE CITY THE MASTER PLAN DONE DOWNTOWN, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, SIR. GO COLLECTIVELY THINKING OF OUR ENTIRE CITY. WELL YEAH, BUT THEY'RE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS, AND THEY'VE BEEN KIND OF CONFUSED HERE. OF I MEAN, I CAN SEE IF THERE WAS A SEPARATE LIGHT LINE ITEM FOR YOU KNOW, CITYWIDE MASTER PLAN OTHER THAN DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS SAYS. YOU KNOW, FAIRNESS TO MR WILLIAMS, SIR. UM AND I JUST GOT INVOLVED IN THIS. MARTIN. HE WAS TRYING TO NOT ANY DAY COUNCIL WAS JUST TOO MANY LINES. THAT'S WHERE IT SAYS THAT IN ONE LINE, WE'RE TRYING TO GET AS MUCH BANG AS WE CAN FOR OUR BUCK AND TO DO THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN AND USING MR MORRIS CONNECTIONS AND OUR RFP PROCESS. IN THE BIDDING PROCESS FOR HOPING TO PROCUREMENT PROPERTY PROCESSES WE CAN GET THAT MUCH BANG FOR THEM WHICH MONEY? WELL, AS I SAID, I'M OFF GETTING MAXIMUM BANG FOR THE BUCK. BUT I THINK WE'VE FORGET WHAT THE TERM IS. BUT WE'VE WE'VE BLENDED A COUPLE OF THINGS HERE, AND WE REALLY OUGHT TO HAVE TWO SEPARATE LINE ITEMS. AND WE OUGHT TO HAVE DOWNTOWN. IT SEEMS TO ME WE ARE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN $200,000. THAT'S WHAT IT'S BEEN ALL ALONG. AND THEN ANOTHER LINE ITEM. CITYWIDE MASTER PLAN TO BE DETERMINED. SOME. MIGHT NOT BE IN THE 2023 CAPITAL BUDGET. I DON'T KNOW. I MEAN, I'M ALL FOR I THINK WE SHOULD BE PLANNING WHERE WE'RE GOING. YEAH, BUT. I DON'T WANT TO HOLD UP THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN WHILE WE'RE YOU KNOW? CONTEMPLATING. STUFF YOU ARE. THE RFP IS ALREADY OUT THERE.
WE'VE GOTTEN. WE'VE GOT A TEAM AND A COMMITTEE WITHOUT GOING INTO IT, BUT NOT TO CHANGE. THE PROCESS IS IN THE PROCESS RIGHT NOW, SIR. RIGHT BUT WHAT'S BEEN OUT WHAT'S OUT IS THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN. I THINK, ISN'T THAT CORRECT, SIR? ALL RIGHT, SO. MEET ME. HEY UM, I DON'T UNDERSTAND THIS AT ALL. YES. I MEAN, RIGHT NOW. WE'RE LOOKING AT PLANS AND YOU KNOW, I'M I'M NOT A BIG BIG ADVOCATE OF PEOPLE DRAWING PRETTY PICTURES, AND THAT'S PAYING THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS FOR A PRETTY PICTURE. WHAT I SEE IS THAT WE DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO AS FAR AS GETS SOUTHSIDE DEPOT DONE. WHICH IS DOWNTOWN, GETTING COURTS COMPLEX . DONE WELL. PARKING DECK IS THE PLAN. GETTING HOTEL PETERSBURG DIED IS THE PLAN ON THE SOUTHERN END OF THE CITY. WE I DON'T NEED SOMEONE TO GIVE ME A STUDY TO TELL, BUT WE NEED TO GET POOR CREEK. INFRASTRUCTURE DONE TO BE ABLE TO GROW OUT THERE. I DON'T NEED $200,000 FOR PLAYING FOR THAT. I JUST NEED TO GET IT DONE AND GET THESE THINGS ONLINE. AND END UP DOING THAT WE WOULD HAVE A THRIVING CITY. SO I'M AT THAT THAT THAT IS THE PLAN FOR THE CITY TO THRIVE IN THAT THAT WHOLE THING OF ALL OF THESE
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PLANS WITH THE CITY THAT'S CASH STRAPPED. IS IT DEFEATS THE PURPOSE BECAUSE WE ALREADY ON THE HOOK FOR COURTS COMPLEX. ALL RIGHT. AND WITH THAT WE NEED TO. WE NEED TO PUT MONEY IN DESIGN LIKE YESTERDAY TO GET THIS THING STARTED AND NOT IN PLANS WITH MAKING DECISIONS ON THE SNAP OF A FINGER. THAT HAVE BEEN SNUCK INTO ON AMENDED CAPITAL BUDGET PLAN. KEY LANGUAGE HAS BEEN CHANGED ALL OF A SUDDEN. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. WE HAVEN'T SEEN THE REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL FOR THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN. WE HAVEN'T SEEN THE RESPONSES WERE NOT GIVEN STAFF ANY DIRECTION AS TO WHAT TO DO AT THIS POINT. IF I WIN STAFF SHOES, I WOULDN'T KNOW WHAT ON EARTH TO DO IN RESPONSE TO THE OR WITH THE SUBMISSIONS THAT WE'VE RECEIVED TO THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN RFP UH AND I THINK IT'S I THINK IT'S TOO GLIB. TO SAY WE DON'T NEED TO PLAN FOR THE PHARMACEUTICAL CLUSTER. I'M IN TOTAL AGREEMENT, BUT WE DO NEED A PLAN. FOR THE FOR DOWNTOWN THAT'S GOING TO KNIT TOGETHER. ACCESS TO THE RIVER. HOW ARE WE GOING TO FINANCE PURCHASES THAT OF IMPROVEMENTS. AH ALL KINDS OF DETAILS. HOW ARE WE GOING TO KNIT THAT THE DEVELOPMENT OF DOWNTOWN INTO THE COURTHOUSE COMPLEX THIS CAN WE CAN WE IMPROVE THE GATEWAY APPEARANCE WHEN WE COME OVER THE MARTIN LUTHER KING BRIDGE. DO WE NEED GREEN SPACE AS WE COME OVER THE MARTIN LUTHER KING BRIDGE. ALL OF THESE ARE DETAILS THAT NEED TO BE STUDIED AND PRESENTED TO COUNCIL. IT'S NOT JUST A QUESTION OF PRETTY PICTURES. I DON'T WANT PRETTY PICTURES, EITHER. BUT YOU KNOW, THE ROOT DEBT PLAN IS NOT ANYTHING BUT PRETTY PICTURES. IT NEVER TOLD US HOW TO GET THERE. AND IT'S BADLY OUT OF DATE. BESIDES SO, I DO THINK WE NEED A DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN. I'M IN TOTAL CONFUSION AS TO WHAT CITYWIDE MASTER PLANTS MEANS. AND I WE GOT IT. I DON'T KNOW WHETHER HOW WE ADDRESS THIS, BUT WE NEED TO DO IT DELIBERATELY AND CAREFULLY WITH THE FACTS IN FRONT OF US, INCLUDING A PRESENTATION BY MR MOORE. AS TO WHAT DID WE REQUEST WHEN WE ASKED FORCE FOR PROPOSALS OR DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN AND WHAT RESPONSES DID WE GET? WHAT WERE PEOPLE PROPOSING ? ALL OF THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE? WE CANNOT GLIB LEE JUST JUST MAKE THIS DECISION AS WE'RE SITTING HERE. RIGHT AND AT THIS TIME, I DON'T THINK WAS THERE EVER EMOTION DONE WITH JACKSON ON THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN OR ANY PLANS? I DON'T THINK COUNSELORS EVER APPROVED ANYTHING AT THIS POINT IN TIME COUNCIL MAYA LISTEN. WE ARE TO BE PRUDENT WITH THE DOLLARS AND SINCE WE USE IT ATTACKS BECAUSE NOW WE'VE HAD SEVERAL PLANS DOWNTOWN AND HERE AND THERE AND THEN ALL THE COMPLAINTS HAVE BEEN OVERSEAS. I'VE BEEN IN 20 YEARS. AND ALL I HEAR ABOUT IS DOWNTOWN DOWNTOWN. WELL, IF YOU LOOK AT DOWNTOWN DOWNTOWN, IT'S EXPONENTIALLY GROWN FAR EXCEEDED WHERE THERE WERE ONLY TWO OR THREE RESTAURANTS. NOW WE'VE GOT 20. YEAH AND THERE'S BEEN MORE EXPANSION DOWNTOWN. WE NEED TO START LOOKING AT THIS MASTER PLAN ABOUT THE ENTIRE CITY OF PETERSBURG, NOT JUST DOWNTOWN.AND SO THE MASTER PLAN WOULD INCLUDE DOWNTOWN. SO I DON'T SEE WHY WE NEED TO HAVE TWO SEPARATE STUDIES WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO SAVE AND GET MORE BANG FOR OUR BUCK TO DO SO IN IS, THE MAYOR HAS POINTED OUT. THERE'S SEVERAL KEY THINGS AND DOWNTOWN THAT WE ONLY REALLY SHOULD BE DOING AND CAN BE DOING. IN THIS PARTICULAR FISCAL SITUATION THAT WE ARE IN RIGHT NOW, AND THAT IS TO FOCUS ON TOURISM. AND THAT IS TO GET SOUTHSIDE DEPONENT. GET THE HOTEL PETERSBURG DONE. AND THE COURTS. NONE WHICH. MY NECK IS ON THE LINE FOR THEM TO MAYORS AND EVERYBODY ELSE SITTING HERE ON COUNCIL AND I BELIEVE THAT MEETINGS HAVE ENSUED WITH RESPECT TO MEANING THOSE GOALS AND SO I CANNOT SEE HOW WE WOULD GO OUT HERE AND SPEND ANOTHER $200,000. TO DO A STUDY ON SOMETHING WHERE THAT $200,000 CAN BE EQUATED TO THOSE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO DO IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA, BUT WE REALLY NEED TO FOCUS ON WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE CITY OF PETERSBURG. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE NOW , I'M NOT GONNA SAY THIS MORNING
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UP IN THE MAYOR. MY SMACK MY HAND TODAY FOR SAYING ABOUT HE'S THE ONE WITH PUSHING. BUT THIS INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE CITY OF PETERSBURG BECAUSE AS FAR AS THE PHARMACEUTICAL CLUSTER OVER THERE, WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD AND WE CAN'T DO IT WITHOUT. UM, THE RESOURCE IS THAT WE NEED FOR THAT. SO THROWING MONEY. IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE ALREADY KNOW THAT WE NEED TO DO IS VERY UNNECESSARY. MR MAYOR. I THINK WE NEED TO SIT DOWN AND GET A PRESENTATION FROM MR MORE AS TO WHAT A DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN COULD BRING TO US. I THINK WE NEED TO GET THE PUBLIC INPUT ON YOU CAN DO THAT FOR THE MASTER PLAN. SAME THING, CHARLIE. HE CAN DO THE SAME THING DURING THE COURSE OF THAT. PLAYER. ABOUT WHAT? I CAN'T GET MY ARMS AROUND THIS. WE'VE ALREADY ISSUED AN RFP FOR DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN. WE'VE SPILLED OUT WHAT WE WANT IN THAT WE'VE GOTTEN RESPONSES.AH! WE DON'T HAVE THE INFORMATION IN FRONT OF US. NOT ONE OF US HERE. I SUSPECTED SEEING WHAT THE RFP SAID. NOT ONE OF US KNOWS THE SHORTCOMINGS OF THE ROUTE, DAD. AH THESE ARE FACTS THAT ARE REALLY SERIOUS AND IMPORTANT, AND WE DON'T KNOW THEM. MAYBE WE OUGHT. TO MAYBE WHEN WE HAVE A, UH, OUR WORK SESSION. WELL MAYBE WHEN WE HAVE OUR, UM, BUSINESS MEETING ON APRIL. THE 19TH. WE CAN DIG DEEPER INTO THIS. WHAT DO WE REALLY NEED A MASTER PLAN. WHAT WOULD BE THE BENEFITS OF IT? WHAT WOULD BE THE COMPONENTS OF IT? AH DO WE ARE WE ARE WE IGNORING THE REST OF THE CITY. I MEAN THE PHARMACEUTICAL CLUSTERS . DOING GREAT. DOES WARD TO NEED A MASTER PLAN FOR CRYING OUT LOUD, OTHER THAN THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PHARMACEUTICAL CLUSTER, WHICH EVERY ONE OF US STRONGLY SUPPORTS. OUT. WE TALKED. I THINK WE NEED TO DIG INTO THIS AWFUL LOT DEEPER BEFORE WE MAKE JUST GLIB CONCLUSIONS. SO I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE PUT THIS ON OUR AGENDA FOR DEEPER DISCUSSION AT OUR BUSINESS MEETING ON APRIL 19TH HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING. GET THE PUBLIC'S INPUT. GET MR MOORE'S PRESENTATION. AH I UNDERSTAND BETTER. WHAT? THE ROUTE YET? PLAN DOES CONTAIN AND DOES NOT CONTAIN. AH HOW MANY DOWNTOWN PLANS HAVE WE HAD? I HEARD MR MYERS SAY WE'VE HAD SEVERAL. I'M AWARE OF ONLY ONE AND THAT'S RUDE AT BUT HE COULD EASILY BE RIGHT AND I JUST COULD BE IN THE DOG. BUT ALL OF THESE ARE FACTS THAT WE NEED TO KNOW AND IN ORDER TO MAKE INTELLIGENT DECISIONS. AND HELP US CITY GROW SO UM, MR MAYOR. HOW DO YOU SUGGEST WE PROCEED? LET'S GIVE MR MORE WHAT IS THE TIME FRAME FOR YOU TO BE ABLE TO BRING? UM, BRING THAT TOGETHER. THE WHOLE ANALYSIS OF THE PLAN, WHETHER IT'S DOWNTOWN, A CITYWIDE PLAYING HOW MUCH TIME DO YOU WOULD IT TAKE YOU TO COMPILE THAT INFORMATION TO GET BACK TO US? WE CAN GET SOME DIRECTIONAL MOVING FORWARD. MR MAYOR, ARE YOU ASKING IN THIS? WHAT IS THE SCOPE OF THE CURRENT DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAYING RFP? WHAT WAS ASKED OF THE SUBMITTERS. YES THAT AND ALSO WHAT WAS PRESENTED TO US AS FAR AS THE CITYWIDE.
NOW THERE. IS A CITYWIDE WRITTEN PLAN. AT THIS POINT. ALL WE HAVE IS THE LEGAL ONE THAT WE PUT OUT FOR THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN. WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS NOW. AND AGAIN ALL THE INTERNALS AS FAR AS WHO SUBMITTED IN THAT WERE INFORMED. YOU KNOW, THAT HAS TO BE KEPT WITHIN THE COMMITTEE THAT'S DOING THAT DECISION. COUNCILOR COVER EVERYTHING YOU UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE P IS ALREADY OUT THERE FOR THE DOWNTOWN. WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN, SO THEY HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING THAT CITYWIDE. BUT THIS IS MONEY HERE. JUST 200,000. IS LOOKING AT A CITY WHERE AT SCOPE IF YOU DECIDED TO GO THERE FAR BUT RIGHT NOW, THEY HAVE ONLY STUDIED THE DOWNTOWN, SO WE DON'T WANT TO SEE WHAT THEY RFP FOR DOWNTOWN. I KNOW I'M SCHEDULED TO BRING A PRESENTATION AND I GUESS UNDER ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ON THE 19TH WITH WHAT WAS SUBMITTED AS FAR AS THE SCOPE OF WORK FOR THE RFP. SO WE WILL REVISIT THE DOWNTURN MASTER PLAN ISSUE ON APRIL THE 19TH IS JUST SUGGESTED THE SCOPE OF WORK ALL RIGHT, AND AT THAT TIME WE CAN DECIDE. SO WELL, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THIS IS PUBLIC SESSION OR CLOSED SESSION. AH BUT WELL WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ALTERNATIVE BIDS AND WHAT THE BIDS WOULD UM, THIS DETAILS WE CAN'T GET THAT THAT WOULD BE WITHIN THE COMMITTEE AND WE HAD TO SIGN THE ETHICS FORM THAT WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO ACTUALLY DISCUSS THAT. OUTSIDE
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OF THE COMMITTEE. WHAT I COULD SEE ON THE 19TH. WE WOULD BRING THE SCOPE OF WORK TO YOU. SHOW YOU WHAT THAT WAS PRESENTED. AND YOU CAN MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS BECAUSE DURING THE FINAL NEGOTIATION PROCESS WE COULD SAY OKAY, THIS IS WHAT COUNSEL WOULD LIKE TO USE IS WHAT WE DON'T WANT TO USE. GIVE US A PRICE FOR THAT. THE $200,000. WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THE PRICE WILL BE ONCE THE FINAL NEGOTIATION WITH ME. ALL RIGHT. WELL, THAT'S GOOD. UM AND ON APRIL THE 19TH COULD WOULD YOU ALSO, MR MOORE? TELL US HOW MANY TELL COUNCIL HOW MANY DOWNTOWN PLANS THAT HAVE BEEN? IS THERE MORE THAN JUST A RUDE AT PLAN? AND IF YOU COULD ALSO TELL US WHAT ARE THE SHORTCOMINGS OR WHAT DOES THE ROUTE AT PLAYING NOT HAVE THIS THIS? UH, REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL? HAS REQUESTED. IS THERE A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO? BETWEEN THE FORMER PLANS AND THE CURRENT PLAN WELL BETWEEN THE RFC IF WE MEASURED THE RUDE AT PLAYING AGAINST THE RFP, I WOULD HAVE TO REVIEW THAT'S RIGHT. NO, I UNDERSTAND. WHAT I CAN DO IS I CAN GO THROUGH THOSE PLANS AND JUST MAYBE BUILD A SUMMARY BOX SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT'S IN THE PLANE AND THEN ATTACH THOSE AS ATTACHMENTS TO THAT SUBMISSION. I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. I MEAN, DOES IT MAKE SENSE? JUST USE THE ROOT, ADD PLAN AND HAVE BEEN SOME OTHER ONES. I BELIEVE LISTED A PLAN, BUT WHAT I'LL DO IS I'LL PULL ALL THAT INFORMATION AND GET THAT TO YOU AND DIDN'T DO LIKE AN EXECUTIVE SUMMARY ON TOP OF THAT, SO THAT YOU HAVE THAT INFORMATION. ALL RIGHT. THAT WOULD BE GREAT. THAT WOULD BE GREAT. THANK YOU, MR MOORE. THANK YOU, MR MAYOR. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN HILL. YES.WOW. UM NOT TO DELAY ANYTHING ELSE. I THINK WE'VE HAD ENOUGH. I REALLY DO. OH WE HAVE TO BELIEVE ANYTHING. WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THIS CITY. I UNDERSTAND . WE DO HAVE A DOWNTOWN PLAIN, BUT I'M GLAD THAT WE ARE LOOKING OR THERE'S TALKS ABOUT A ENTIRE CITY PLAYING BECAUSE WHAT WE GET INUNDATED WITH A LOT OF TIMES AS COUNCIL MEMBERS AND ALL OF US, I BELIEVE ALL OF US HAVE HAVE HAD THIS QUESTION. ALL Y'ALL DO IS THINK ABOUT DOWNTOWN. WE HAVE TO STOP JUST FOCUSING ON UNDERSTAND. THE COMMERCE THAT THIS DRAFT THAT AREA BUT WE HAVE OTHER AREAS THAT NEED ATTENTION . THE NEED BEAUTIFIED. UH WE NEED TO ADDRESS THEM ISSUES COMING OFF OUR EXES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. AND WHAT HAVE YOU COMING INTO THE CITY AND A CITYWIDE PLAYING WITH ADDRESS ALL OF THAT AS WELL? SO WE HAVE TO. WE FOCUS OUR DIRECTION. UH AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN MYERS.
WHERE IS YOU KNOW IT HAS GROWN TREMENDOUSLY. AND. ME EVERYBODY KNOW MY BUSINESS IS DOWN THERE, AND I'VE BEEN THERE THERE 18 YEARS, SO I'VE SEEN THE GROWTH AND NOT SAYING FORCED TO TAKE OUR EYES OFF THE BALL BEING THERE AND THERE. BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE HAVE, UH OTHER PARTS TO THE CITY THAT NEEDS ADDRESSING VERY SEVERELY. SO, UR PLAN DOESN'T TAKE UP ALL THE $200,000 OR WHATEVER IT IS THAT WE REALLY NEED TO LOOK AT THE TOTALITY. SO I'LL BE LOOKING ONCE, UH, ECONOMIC DEVELOPER IS IN WHEN HE'S READY TO SHOW IT TO US. YOU KNOW, BOTH PLANS, YOU KNOW, NOT TAKING ANYTHING AWAY FROM THE DOWNTOWN BECAUSE INITIALLY, THAT'S WHAT WE SAID.
WE WANTED HONEST AND THAT BUT WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE ENTIRE CITY. BECAUSE EVERYBODY DON'T LIVE DOWNTOWN, YOU KNOW. THANK YOU, MR MAYOR. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR HERE. LET ME GIVE YOU A LITTLE REPORT ON SOMETHING YOU SAID ABOUT EXECS LAST NIGHT. I HAD MY CREATOR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING LAST NIGHT AND JUST WANT TO INFORM YOU THAT LAST NIGHT WE APPROVED TO MOVE FORWARD ON THE CREATOR ROAD. 85 95 SPLIT. WE HAVE THAT IN THE SMART SCALE PLAYING THERE FOR VIDEO TO REDO THEIR EXIT, SO THAT'S BIG NEWS IN THE PLAN RIGHT THERE THAT'S MOVING FORWARD, AND THAT'S GOING TO BE COMING TO US. BOB. ON THE PETERSBURG IN FOR VOTE BECAUSE IT'S LONG OVERDUE. SO DEFINITELY COMMANDER EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE LAST NIGHT THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR SUPPORTING PETERSBURG'S EFFORT, BECAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE RAISED FOREVER. AND IT'S PART OF GETTING THINGS IN THE PIPELINE TO BE DONE. SO YEAH, MR MAYOR, BECAUSE YOU SAY EXITS. I JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU THAT INFORMATION AND ANOTHER THING SPEAKING OF EXISTS, WE ALL KNOW THE PEOPLE WHO WORK THE EXITS. THAT'S WHAT I CALLED. WE HAVE. SEEMED LIKE ESPECIALLY CREATIVE ROLE EGGS, ESPECIALLY THEY WORKED THAT EXIT. AND IF I'M GETTING OFF THE SUBJECT, PLEASE BRING ME BACK IN, BUT WE REALLY NEED TO GET WHAT ARE POLICE. AND WE NEED TO GET A SIGN UP THERE BECAUSE I THINK CHESAPEAKE HAS A SIGN AS IT IS REALLY DEALING WITH PEOPLE WHO ARE SOLICITING
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ON THE EXITS. WE NEED TO GET THAT TAKEN CARE IMMEDIATELY. THEY HAVE SET UP SHOP. IN OUR EXCESS AND IT LOOKS TERRIBLE COMING INTO THE CITY, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S ALMOST LIKE IT'S A BUSINESS TO THEM IS NOT YOU KNOW, I CAN'T REALLY SAY, BUT IT'S NOT LIKE PEOPLE JUST REALLY DOWN ON THEIR LUCK. IT'S ALMOST LIKE THEY HAVE A ROTATION. YOU SEE A CERTAIN GROUP IN THE MORNING EXERTING GROUP IN THE AFTERNOON THAT YOU SEE A CERTAIN GROUP TOWARDS THE NIGHT. AND IT'S ALMOST LIKE THEY KNOW. WELL, LOOK, YOU'VE GOT THIS SHIFT AND I GOT THIS SHIP AND YOU GOT THAT SHIP AND IT'S JUST CRAZY, AND I BELIEVE CHESAPEAKE HAS HAS A SIGN. I WAS TOLD ABOUT ONE OF MY CONSTITUENTS THAT WHEN YOU COME OFF THE EXITS, WHERE THERE'S NO LAW ORDERING AND NO SOLICITING, SO WE IF WE NEED TO DO A POLICY OR PROCEDURE MR WILLIAMS. IF YOU CAN LOOK INTO THAT FOR ME, I REALLY APPRECIATE IT, YOU KNOW, AND THEN BRING BACK SOMETHING TO THE COUNCIL SOME TYPE OF SANDWICH THAT WE CAN HAVE TO STOP INDIVIDUALS FROM, UM UM LOTTERY AND SOLICITING ON ON SIDE I CAN TELL YOU BEFORE AND ACTUALLY PROBABLY HAVE SOME OPINIONS ALREADY ISSUED ON THAT SUBJECT. THERE WAS A CASE, UM FEW YEARS AGO CLATTER BUT CASE WHERE THAT WAS EXAMINED, AND THE PROBLEM IS THAT THIS THE US DISTRICT COURTS AND SUBSEQUENT APPELLATE COURTS CONSIDER SUCH SOLICITATIONS TO BE PROTECTED UNDER FREE SPEECH, AND SO LOCALITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY ARE HAVING THE SAME ISSUES WITH THAT. THAT'S WHY YOU SEE HIM SPRINGING UP EVERYWHERE.AND SO THERE ARE PERHAPS SOME LIMITED THINGS WE CAN DO WITH THE COURTS HAVE BEEN VERY STRICT IN BASICALLY TYING THE HANDS OF LOCALITIES WITH REGARD TO ADDRESSING THAT ISSUE, BUT I'LL FIND THOSE OPINIONS AND GIVE IT TO COUNSEL. THANK YOU. COUNCIL ADMIRED MR AND I LIKE TO ADD TO THAT TONY IS THAT I HAVE WITNESSED PEOPLE PULLING UP IN VANS AND DROPPING PEOPLE OFF. TO SOLICIT AT THE EXITS ALL DAY LONG, BUT I DO WANT TO ADD TO OUR CONVERSATION THAT THE DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT WILL NOT FUND WILL NOT FUND ANOTHER PLAN IN PETERSBURG. THEY SAY, TAKE THE MONEY AND SPEND IT ON TAKING ACTION IN DOWNTOWN. BUT DEPARTMENT OF. HOUSING COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT SAID WE WILL NOT FUND SUCH A PLAN FOR DOWNTOWN BECAUSE THERE'S ALREADY BEEN SEVERAL PLANS THAT HAVE NOT EVER BEEN ACTUATED. COUNCILMAN COVER TWO THINGS ONE ON THE. THE PROBLEM THAT COUNCILMAN HILL IS IDENTIFIED FOR SOME. COUNCILMAN MYERS SPOKE ABOUT IN THE CITY MANAGER SPOKE ABOUT THE PANHANDLERS. TOM. I KNOW. HENRY CHO. HI. HAS PUT UP SIGNS. AT THE PLACE WHERE THE PANHANDLERS OFTEN STAND. AND THE SIGNS SAY, PLEASE DO NOT GIVE MONEY TO UH, PANHANDLERS IF A PERSON NEEDS ASSISTANCE. UM THEY SHOULD CALL AND THERE'S A NUMBER THERE FOR A HOTLINE. SO THAT IF SOMEBODY REALLY IS HAS HIS BACK AGAINST THE WALL, HE CAN. HE CAN CALL THAT NUMBER. SO WE MIGHT CHECK WITH HENRY CHO. EVEN THOUGH WE CANNOT PROHIBIT I'M AFRAID OF PANHANDLING. WE CAN. DISCOURAGE PEOPLE FROM GIVING TO THE PAN HAT. UM SO WE MIGHT LOOK INTO I KNOW I'VE SEEN HIM IN HENRICO AT THE CORNER OF PARAM AND. MM HMM . PERRIMAN LOST. RIGHT BY THE BURGER KINGS. BUT ANY EVENT UM, LET ME GO BACK TO THE MASTER PLAN ISSUE. I KNOW IT'S A LITTLE BIT CONTENTIOUS, AND WE'VE CERTAINLY HAD A GOOD DISCUSSION ABOUT IT. I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL. ALSO ON APRIL THE 19TH MR MORE IF YOU COULD, UH. GIVE US YOUR THOUGHTS AS TO HOW TO GET SOME TRACTION ON A CITYWIDE MASTER PLAN. OTHER THAN. THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN THAT IS TO INCLUDE AREAS OUTSIDE OF DOWNTOWN. UM WHAT WOULD BE THE, UH THE ESSENCE OF THAT REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL? MAYBE YOU COULD GIVE US AN ESTIMATE OF WHAT IT COULD COST. MAYBE WE CAN INCLUDE THAT IN OUR CAPITAL BUDGET, IF NOT FOR THE CURRENT YEAR FOR THE
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NEXT YEAR. UM, I DO THINK THAT IT WOULD BE HELPFUL IF WE COULD GET A GRIP ON WHAT THAT VISION FOR THE FULLER CITY WOULD BE CERTAINLY SUPPORTIVE OF THAT. YES, SIR. MR GOVERNMENT BECAUSE I THINK I CAN DO THAT BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY STARTED THE INITIAL BONES DRAFT OF WHAT WE WERE LOOKING AT AS FAR AS CITYWIDE. SO WHAT I'LL BRING TO YOU THE 19TH. WOULD BE THE SCOPE OF WORK FOR THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN, WHICH IS CURRENTLY ONGOING. AND I'LL BRING YOU A GUESS WOULD BE ALMOST LIKE A EXECUTIVE. I WAS REACHED DOCUMENT THIS POINT JUST TO GIVE YOU MAYBE A EXECUTIVE SUMMARY SCOPE OF WORK WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO. AND THE CITYWIDE PLAN WOULD BE MORE OF AN ACTIONS. YOU KNOW, BASICALLY A STEP AND THEN AN ACTION TO DO THAT. THAT'S WHY MOST OF THE CITYWIDE PLANS DO AND WHAT I'LL DO IS I'LL DELINEATE THE AREAS THAT ARE, WE'RE CONSIDERING. DIVIDING THE CITY INTO SO THAT COUNTS GOING TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION AND YOU CAN LET ME KNOW WHAT DIRECTION WOULD LIKE TO GO. I THINK THAT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL. I DON'T SEE THIS AS A EITHER OR I SEE IT AS AN ALL OF THE ABOVE. SO THANK YOU, AND I'LL LOOK FORWARD TO WHAT YOU CAN OH, HELP US SEE AND UNDERSTAND. ON APRIL 19TH. YES, SIR. THANK YOU, MR MOORE.MAN. IS IT A BUSINESS COUNCIL HERE? NO, THIS IS THE C A P PRESENTATION. YEAH, THIS IS IT.
ALL RIGHT. OKAY ANY OTHER QUESTIONS TO COMMENT ON THE CLP? OKAY? WHEN WE COVER. WHEN ARE WE SUPPOSED TO MAKE A DECISION ON THE CRP? ALL RIGHT. WE WANT TO GO OVER THE CALENDAR BECAUSE THIS WAS A WORK SESSION BUDGET WORKSHOP. AND WE SEE THIS IS OUR FIRST ONE AND WE HAVE ANOTHER ONE TO GO. GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR PARAM COUNCIL. UM THE APRIL 19TH MEETING IS TO ADAPTIVE PROPOSED BUDGET AS WELL AS THE CRP, BUT WE HAVE PLANS ON REACHING OUT TO THE COMMUNITY. AS WELL AS COUNSEL TO DO SOME MORE REVIEWING OF THE AS WELL AS THE BUDGET. COULD WE GET ALL OF THOSE DOCUMENTS TOGETHER BEFORE THE 19TH TO SEE IF WE CAN HAVE ANOTHER DISCUSSION BECAUSE WE NEED ANOTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS? BEFORE WE GET TO THE 19TH, SO WE PROBABLY HAVE TO GET A MEETING IN THEIR AROUND THE 12. OKAY? AT LEAST A WEEK BEFORE THE WEEKEND. YES WE HAVE INFORMATION, DRILL DOWN ON THE NUMBERS AND THEN WE CAN COME BACK AND HAVE A REAL MEETING ON AFTER WE KICK THEM.
MR MAYOR, EXACTLY. WE CAN AND IF IT'S COUNCILS PLEASURE WE CAN, EVEN AS WE DID WITH THE BUDGET AND THE ACTUAL OPERATIONAL BUDGET. WE CAN DO THE SAME THING WITH THIS MEAN WITH YOU ALL.
GROUPS OF TWO OR IF YOU HAVE EXTRA PLEASURE TO COME DOWN THE CITY HALL, WE CAN GO TO THINK THAT WE'RE GOOD. LET'S SAY ALL OF THEM. THAT WOULD BE BETTER FOR YOU BE MORE PREPARED THINKING I GIVE YOU A CHANCE. GIVEN MISS MOODY TO GET YOUR SCHEDULES AND WHEREVER HARD COPY FOR YOU AS WELL. MR WOOD. THANK YOU SO MUCH. OKAY SO WE CLEAR WE WE'LL GET THAT INFORMATION AND WE'LL DO SOME TOO OLD TUNES AFTER WE GET THE INFORMATION AND SCHEDULE ANOTHER MEETING BEFORE THEIR MEETING ON THE 19TH. AFTER WE'VE LOOKED AT THOSE NUMBERS PRECISELY. YES, AND THEN WE CAN HAVE A PRODUCTIVE MEETING ON THE 19TH. YES YEAH, LAST. I'M SORRY . LAST THING IS EVER SINCE I WAS IN THE BUDGET DEPARTMENT HAVE BEEN ADVOCATING AND TRYING TO PUSH AND PUSH AND PUSH THAT THE C I P BECOMES JUST AS IMPORTANT , IF NOT MORE THAN, WELL, NOT MORE IMPORTANT THAN OPERATING BUDGET, BUT THE FACT THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE A PROOF DIDN'T HAVE A PROCESS. WE DIDN'T HAVE A PROCESS IN PLACE TO DO THAT. I KNOW BEFORE YOU KNOW, I'VE GIVEN THE WORKSHOP. HE WORKS UP THERE, BUT THERE WAS NOT AN OFFICIAL. CFP PROCESS IN PLACE. AND SO THAT'S THIS IS GOOD TO HEAR, AND WE ALL KNOW HOW IMPORTANT THE C I P IS. IF YOU LOOK AT ANY OTHER LOCALITY, YOU GO ONLINE. LOOK AT THEIR BUDGET. YOU'LL SEE THE OPERATING BUDGET. YOU SEE THE C I P. YOU SEE, YOU SEE, ALL OF IT DOESN'T CONJUNCTION. SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE. WE'VE BEEN DOING THE OPERATING THE OPERATING THE OPERATE. WE NEVER DID BECAUSE THE BOB GROUP WAS REALLY THE LAST MINUTE DID A CITYWIDE ADOPTED AND APPROVED. COUNCIL COVER UP, MR MAYOR. I THINK WE ALL BENEFITTED TREMENDOUSLY FROM
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THE INPUT OF MISS STACEY JORDAN'S ON THE OPERATIONAL BUDGET. HIS SHE HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT BUDGET, BUT SHE INVITED TO OR HAS SHE DID SHE DIG INTO THAT? HOW. NO SARAH WASN'T INCLUDED IN THE ORIGINAL MEETINGS. BUT MOVING FORWARD. I WILL BE INCLUDED AS WE SIT DOWN AND HAVE THE ONE OF THE ONES WE COUNSEL WOULD HAVE A LOT MORE CONFIDENCE IN THESE NUMBERS. IF THEY HAD HAD THE BENEFIT OF YOUR ANALYSIS , UM AND SO CERTAINLY INVITE THE INTERIM CITY MANAGER TO GET MISS JORDAN'S IN THE TRENCHES ON THIS ONE. I CAN ASSURE COUNCIL AND SHE WILL BE INVOLVED IN THEIR CLASSES. THANK YOU AND MR MR MAYOR. IS THERE ANY REASON WHY, UH, THE NEXT REVISION OF THE CAPITAL BUDGET CANNOT INCLUDE A SEPARATE LINE ITEM FOUR SEPARATE FOR THE CITYWIDE MASTER PLAN. OTHER THAN DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN AND THEN A SEPARATE ITEMS. SEPARATE LINE ITEM FOR THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN. IS THERE ANYTHING TO KEEP US FROM HEAVEN TO SEPARATE LINE ITEMS, SO THAT IN OUR MINDS AND IN OUR EYES AND THEN ALL UNDERSTANDING WE CAN SEE HOW THE TO WORK TOGETHER. AND UM, PERHAPS MAYBE WE COULD FUND BOTH OF THEM. AND UM MR MOORE WILL BE BRINGING IT TO US OR THE 19TH, RIGHT. RIGHT? SO HE'S A BREAK ALL THAT DOWN THERE. OKAY, GREAT. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT OKAY. THANK YOU, MR WILLIAMS. THANK YOUR PRESENTATION. THANK YOU. EVERYONE FOR ATTENDING ALRIGHT, AND NEXT ITEM IS THE GERMAN DON'T MOVE. ALL IN FAVOR JUST MEANS THE JOURNEY. CUT IT OFF.* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.