Aug 02, 2022 Special Joint City Council Meeting with the Planning Commission

[00:00:05]

GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE. WE'RE READY TO GET STARTED WITH THIS SPECIAL JOINT CITY COUNCIL

[1. Roll Call]

[2.a. A public hearing on the consideration of an ordinance approving a petition to amend the proffers relating to off-site improvements and a Traffic Impact Analysis (TIA) adopted with the rezoning of the property for the Berkeley Estates residential development. (Page 2)]

GOOD MORNING, HONORABLE MAYOR. MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL. GOOD MORNING, MR TABOR. IF YOU WANT TO DO A ROLL CALL FOR YOU. PLANNING COMMISSION. YEAH SECRETARY FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS MISS MURALS AND SHELTER THE ROLL CALL. COMMISSIONER OF DOCTOR WHO.

COMMISSIONER TAYLOR. VICE CHAIR, BLAND CHAIR ALEXANDER COMMISSIONER VARGO. COMMISSIONER HAIRSTON. NORMAN. COMMISSIONER ERVIN AND COMMISSIONER EDWARDS. WE HAVE A CORN. THANK YOU. SO THIS IS AN ITEM. A PUBLIC HEARING. AND CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE APPROVED. I'M SORRY. A RESOLUTION BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND AN ORDINANCE BY THE CITY COUNCIL. APPROVING THE PETITION TO AMEND THE PROFFERS RELATING TO THE OFFSIDE IMPROVEMENTS AND TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENT TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS ADOPTED WITH THE RE ZONING OF THE PROPERTY FOR THE BERKELEY ESTATES, RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. UM THE, UH, ORIGINAL PROFITS WERE ADOPTED BACK IN 2008, AND THE PROPOSAL IS TO HAVE THE DEVELOPER COMPLETE A NEW TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS AND THEN BASE ANY OFFSITE IMPROVEMENTS ON THAT NEW TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS. THE DEVELOPER IS HERE IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS AS WELL. ALRIGHT, WE'LL OPEN THE FLOOR NOW FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING. ON CONSIDERATION OF THE ORDINANCE APPROVING A PETITION TO AMEND THE PROFITS RELATING TO OFFSITE IMPROVEMENTS AND TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS ADOPTED WITH THE RE ZONING OF THE PROPERTY FOR THE BERKELEY ESTATES, RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. ALRIGHT SEEING NO HANDS. THIS PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED. NEXT COUNCILMAN. HELL. MR MAYOR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL AND RESIDENTS. I MOVE THAT WE APPROVED THE AUDIENCE APPROVING THE PETITION. UH FOR THE BERKLEY MANOR ESTATE, RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. ALRIGHT. COUNCILMAN MYERS SECOND ALL RIGHT.

DISCUSSION FROM IT WAS A COUNCIL IF NOT MADAM CLERK. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. COUNCIL MEMBER, CUTHBERT. THAT'S RIGHT. MR. WILLIAMS WAS JUST MORNING. DO WE NOT NEED TO GET THE

[00:05:06]

THEIR RECOMMENDATION WAS THAT STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE ATTACHED ORDINANCE. MR TABLE IS THAT THE CONSENT OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION. WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO VOTE ON THE RESOLUTION RECOMMENDING APPROVAL? YES. OKAY, GREAT. UM, DO WE HAVE.

THANK YOU. TAMMY ALEXANDER, CHAIRMAN OF THE PETERSBURG PLANNING COMMISSION. MY QUESTION IS, ARE WE JUST APPROVING THE TRAFFIC STUDY? IS THAT WHAT WE'RE PROVING RIGHT NOW OR TO MAKE THESE CHANGES? LET ME GET TO YOU, REGGIE. EXCUSE ME, MIKE. IT IS TO HAVE THE DEVELOPER COMPLETE A NEW TRAFFIC IMPACT AND IMPACT ANALYSIS AND BASE ANY OFF SITE IMPROVEMENTS ON THAT NEW TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS. THANK YOU. THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO MAKE CLEAR TO THE COMMISSION AND, UM I'M SORRY. YOU CAN'T SEE YOUR NAME. COUNCIL ARE NOT, UM MR WILLIAMS. CAN WE NOW HAVE DISCUSSION AMONGST THE PLANNING COMMISSION? YES THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE TO HOLD THE PUBLIC HEARING BECAUSE COUNCIL JUST HELD PUBLIC HEARINGS. SO THAT WAS THE PURPOSE OF THIS JOINT MEETING IS SO THAT WE KILL TWO BIRDS WITH ONE STONE. SO THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. DO WE HAVE ANY MOTIONS FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION OR DISCUSSION BEFORE WE GO? HOLD ON. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATION FROM STAFF WITH THE ATTACKS RESOLUTION. SECOND.

ALL RIGHT, SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER EDWARDS, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ERVIN SO GO AHEAD AND CALL THE ROLL SECRETARY MURALS. COMMISSIONER OF DOCTOR WHO YES. COMMISSIONER TAYLOR. YES. TERRIBLE LAND. CHAIR, ALEXANDER. I COMMISSIONER HAIRSTON. COMMISSIONER NORMAN.

COMMISSIONER ERVIN UH, COMMISSIONER EDWARDS. I HAVE IT. THANK YOU. WE THANK YOU, MR ALEXANDER. APPRECIATE IT. ALL RIGHT. AND NEXT WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN HE'LL SECOND BACK. COUNCILMAN MYERS COUNCILWOMAN WILSON SMITH. MAY I ASK A QUESTION, PLEASE? YES ON THE INFORMATION THAT WE RECEIVED PRIOR TO THIS MEETING. IT'S CLEARLY STATES A RECOMMENDATION IS A STAFF RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE ATTACHED ORDINANCE SO THAT STAFF WAS US OR IS THAT STAFF THE PLANNING COMMISSION. SO THEY HAD NOT. MAKE BECAUSE WE GET THIS STATEMENT ALL THE TIME.

THAT STEP HAS ALREADY RECOMMENDED IT. AND IT BECOMES CONFUSING IF IT'S STATE STAFF RECOMMEND, AND THEN WE TAKE A VOTE TO RECOMMEND. IT'S JUST FOR CLARITY. I'M ASKING NOT TO CHANGE ANYTHING. SO CUSTOMARILY . WE PROVIDE A STAFF RECOMMENDATION, UH, REGARDING THE ORDINANCE THAT WE PRESENT TO CITY COUNCIL AND THAT IS THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION. THE PLANNING COMMISSION ALSO UH, APPROVED THEIR RECOMMENDATION. UH, FOR APPROVAL. OF THE ORDINANCE BACK COUNCIL. ALL RIGHT. STAFF IS THE DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND PLANNING. RIGHT? SAM MADAM CLERK. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. COUNCIL MEMBER KOZBERG AH.

REMEMBER WILSON SMITH? I REMEMBER MYERS. COUNCIL MEMBER WESTBROOK REMEMBER HILL TURN I PASSED. ALRIGHT. NEXT MOVE ON THE ITEM. THREE NEW BUSINESS ITEM A CONSIDERATION OF A

[3.a. Consideration of a resolution approving the City Manager to sign and submit appropriate documents for the submittal of the Industrial Revitalization Fund grant for the rehabilitation of 112 North Sycamore Street. (Page 21)]

TO SIGN AND SUBMIT FOR THE I R. F GRANT. FOR 1 12 NORTH SYCAMORE. THE AMOUNT IS IN

[00:10:05]

GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL. GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS ROB CASPER AND I'M WORKING ON THE I R F GRAIN APPLICATION ON BEHALF OF THE SPONSORS. MY COMPANY HAS ALSO, UH COMMITTED TO SYNDICATING THE STATE AND FEDERAL HISTORIC TAX CREDITS. THAT WILL NET THE PROJECT ALMOST $2.5 MILLION. WE HAVE ALSO ARRANGED FOR CONSTRUCTION PERM ALONE. FROM OLD POINT NATIONAL BANK FOR UP TO $3.8 MILLION THEN WE HAVE THAT EXECUTED COMMITMENT IN HAND. AND WE ALSO HAVE A COMMITMENT FROM THE LOCAL INITIATIVE SUPPORT CORPORATION. FOR A BRIDGE LOAN OF UP TO $3.1 MILLION. AND THAT COMMITMENT CAME IN AS I WAS DRIVING DOWN HERE FROM RICHMOND. SO THE LAST PIECE OF THIS FINANCING STACK IS THE I R F GRANT. AND IT'S THE SMALLEST PIECE, BUT IT'S A CRITICAL ONE BECAUSE THIS PROJECT CANNOT MOVE FORWARD WITHOUT IT. PART ONE APPLICATION THAT'S BEEN SUBMITTED TO THE HR. WE EXPECT THAT APPROVAL THIS WEEK. AND THE ARCHITECTURAL WORKING ON THE PART TWO APPLICATION AS WE SPEAK. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY? THANK YOU.

COUNCILMAN WESTBROOK. OH, OH, COUNSELOR HERE. MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC AND COUNSELOR MOVED THAT WE APPROVE OF THE CITY MANAGER TO SAND AND SUBMIT APPROPRIATE DOCUMENTS FOR THE SUBMITTAL OF THE INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION RE VALUABLE. RE BATTLED IZATION FOUND FUN GRANT FOR THEIR REHABILITATION OF 112 NORTH SYCAMORE STREET. APPROVED THE RESOLUTION. ALRIGHT. COUNCILMAN WESTBROOK SECOND RIGHT? PROMOTION TO SECOND. AT THIS TIME, MADAM CLERK. PLEASE CALL THE ROAD QUESTION COUNSELOR WINSTON SMITH. YES, UM AGAIN. SO THAT I CAN UNDERSTAND THIS. WHEN THE GRANT IS APPROVED, IT IS APPROVED SO THAT THE CITY BECOMES THE HOLDER OF THE FUNDS AND MY SAYING IT CORRECTLY. IS THAT RIGHT? IT WOULD BE THE GRANTEE AND IT PASSES TO THE ORGANIZATION. AND WHEN THE ORGANIZATION USES THE MONEY IS THAT AUTOMATICALLY THAT WANTS THE CITY GETS THE NAN 100,000 THE MONEY, THEN GOES TO THE ORGANIZATION OR IS IT DISPERSED ACCORDING TO THE JOBS BEING DONE? WE HAVE IN PAST PROJECTS DISPERSED IT TO THE JOB. 11 TIME. FOR INSTANCE, IF THE JOB IS PUTTING IN A NEW FLOOR THAN THE CHECK IS WRITTEN TO THE PEOPLE WHO ARE PUTTING IN THE NEW FLOW. NO MA'AM. THE MONEY IS SENT TO THE ACTUAL ORGANIZATION AND THEY CONTROL THAT PIECE OF IT. AGAIN WE'RE JUST PASS THROUGH ORGANIZATION SUBMITTING THE MONEY. AND SO AS IS THERE A REQUIRED CHECKS AND BALANCE SYSTEM WHEN WE OBTAINED THESE GRANTS THESE KIND OF GRANTS THE CHECKS AND BALANCE SYSTEM IS DONE BY THE HCG. THEY'RE THE ONES THAT WOULD ACTUALLY BE AWARDING THE GRANT, MA'AM. AND UH, FOR MR WILLIAMS IS OH, MY GOD. IS THIS IS THIS IS IT NOT A CONFLICT OF INTEREST AT ALL? CONFLICT IN WHAT WAY OF THE

[00:15:08]

THANK YOU. RIGHT AND THE OTHER DISCUSSION QUESTION. ALL RIGHT. CNN. MADAME CLARK, CAN YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? COUNCIL MEMBER, CUTHBERT. REMEMBER WILSON SMITH. ABSTAIN. COUNCIL OF ADMIRES. EPSTEIN 1000 MEMBER, WESTBROOK COUNCIL MEMBER HILL. PERM. MOTION PASSED. NEXT MOVE

[3.b. Consideration of a resolution approving the City Manager to sign and submit appropriate documents for the submittal of the Industrial Revitalization Fund grant for the rehabilitation of 1964 Puddledock Road. (Page 24)]

THERE IS NO CITY FUNDS, NO CITY MATCH AND THE CITY INPUT AS FAR AS THE COMPETITIVE PROCESS. WE CALL THIS THE 1964 PROJECT WITH MY GLASSES AGAIN. THE GOAL IS NOT TO THE DEMOLISH THE BUILDING BUT TO RENOVATE THE BUILDING TO MAKE IT A NEW HOME FOR PHYSICAL THERAPY CLINIC. WITH AN INDOOR AND OUTDOOR SPORTS FACILITY AND WELLNESS CENTER. AS THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE BUILDING EXPANDS, THERE WILL BE POTENTIAL TO ADD JOBS AND MENTORING OPPORTUNITIES WITH LOCAL SCHOOLS. 1964 PROJECT WILL MEET TWO OF THE NEEDS OF THE CITY. REMOVAL OF BLIGHT AND BACON AND PROPERTIES. AS WELL AS ECONOMIC STIMULATION BY BRINGING PRIVATELY OWNED HEALTHCARE ORGANIZATION TO THE CITY OF PETERSBURG. WHERE'S MR WHEELER? THE PETITIONER TO COME FORWARD.

GOOD MORNING, MAYOR AND GOOD MORNING. HOW ARE YOU DOING? THE 1964 PROJECT IS. MY NEWEST CHILD IN MY LIFE, UM. I HAVE OWNED SYNERGY PT AND ATHLETIC PERFORMANCE FOR 15 YEARS STARTED BACK IN 2006. WE WERE LOCATED ON THE JEFF DAVIS HIGHWAY IN CHESTERFIELD. WE'VE SINCE MOVED TO PUDDLE DUCK ROAD AND PRINCE GEORGE VIRGINIA. WE CURRENTLY OCCUPY A 23 100 SQUARE FOOT FACILITY. WHICH WE HAVE. QUICKLY OUTGROWN. OUR FIVE YEAR LEASE WILL BE UP APRIL OF 2023. AND LOOKING TO FIND A NEW HOME. HEARD MY CLINIC, I FOUND THE 24,000 SQUARE FOOT. VACANT INDUSTRIAL BUILDING. FORMERLY THE HOME OF WHAT IS CURRENTLY ANSTEAD RAIL. THE BUILDING CURRENTLY IS IN QUITE A. SITE OF DISREPAIR, OVERGROWN VEGETATION. AND WHAT WE ARE DOING IS ASKING FOR THE $600,000 IN ORDER TO PROVIDE ANY KIND OF CUSHION FOR ANY UNFORESEEN. OBSTACLES THAT COME ON. I'M SURE WE'RE ALL FAMILIAR WITH THOSE LAST MINUTE. FIXES THAT THEY FIND ON H G T V IN TERMS OF THEIR PROJECTS. PRIVATE FUNDING THROUGH TOWN BANK IS BEING SECURED AT THIS TIME AS WELL AS I HAVE ALREADY PERSONALLY PUT $100,000 INTO THE PROJECT TO START THE CLEANUP.

AND REMOVAL OF SCRAP METAL AND TRASH FROM THE AREA. THE PROJECT ITSELF. IS THREE PHASED, FIRST PHASE WILL BE THE 9000 SQUARE FOOT, WHICH WILL BE THE FUTURE HOME OF MY PHYSICAL THERAPY CLINIC. THERE'S A 15,000 SQUARE FOOT SIDE. THAT IS COMPLETELY OPEN AND WILL ALLOW FOR ME TO PUT IN A TURFED AREA. THAT WILL BE AVAILABLE. FOR LOCAL SCHOOLS AND SPORTS TEAMS TO USE DURING INCLEMENT WEATHER. OR SHOULD THERE BE A STATE OF DISREPAIR THAT NEEDS TO BE HANDLED AT ANY OF THESE LOCAL LOCALITIES? ALSO THE PROJECT WILL INCORPORATE WHAT I CALL A HOLISTIC APPROACH.

[00:20:08]

ATTIC SOLAR TICKS. BRIAN ARE KISSIN, WHO IS A VETERAN. HE IS A CERTIFIED NORTHEAST.

NORTHEAST. INTERESTING WORD. IT'S ACTUALLY SOMEBODY THAT FABRICATES ORTHOTICS, BUT THESE ARE DIFFERENT BECAUSE THEY'RE DYNAMIC AND THAT THEY ALLOW YOU TO MOVE. THEY'RE NOT STIFF PIECES OF PLASTIC THAT ARE JUST STUCK INSIDE YOUR SHOES. MR PARKINSON IS CURRENTLY WORKING WITH OUR ACTIVE MILITARY ON FORT LEE AND WOULD LIKE TO EXPAND HIS BUSINESS. TO OFFER IT TO THE VETERANS THAT ARE NOT CURRENTLY SERVING AND ARE LOCATED IN OUR AREA. THE PROJECT SITS ON 4.9 ACRES OF LAND. YOU ALL KNOW THAT THAT ISN'T IT? STREAM LEE LARGE PARCEL. AND IT'S VERY HARD TO FIND THIS WAS AN OPPORTUNITY THAT WAS BROUGHT TO ME JUST BY CHANCE BECAUSE BRONCOS SLASH INSTEAD, RAIL HAD NOT LISTED THIS PROPERTY FOR SALE. I JUST HAPPENED TO REACH OUT TURNS OUT THAT THEY WERE TIRED OF HAVING THE PROPERTY ON THEIR BOOKS. THUS, THIS PROJECT HAS STARTED TO MOVE FORWARD. THAT 4.9 ACRES OF LAND OFFERS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR SO MUCH MORE THAN JUST MY PHYSICAL THERAPY CLINIC. AS WE ALL KNOW PETERSBURG IS A FOOD DESERT. AND THE URBAN WELLNESS AND HEALTH INITIATIVE, WHICH IS ANOTHER COMPANY THAT IS LOOKING TO MOVE ITSELF INTO PETERSBURG IS LOOKING FOR AN OPPORTUNITY TO PLACE COMMUNITY GARDENS AND HELP SERVICE OTHERS. THAT 4.9 ACRES CAN BE USED TO HOUSE THESE GARDENS. ON TOP OF THAT. THAT SEEMS CORPORATION IS LOOKING TO EXPAND. A WELL AND MEDICAL FITNESS AND WELLNESS. SECTION OF ITS BUSINESS. HOW IS THAT? IT TIES DIRECTLY INTO THE CLIENTELE THAT WE SERVE AS CENTER GPT, BUT IT ALSO HELPS TO FIGHT CHRONIC DISEASE. THIS PROJECT. CAN BRING MUCH MORE TO THE AREA THAN JUST A PHYSICAL THERAPY CLINIC. AND I KNOW THAT I HAVE SUBMITTED THE 26 PAGES OF INFORMATION TO THIS BOON AND SHE'S REVIEWING THOSE AT THIS TIME. AND I REALLY LOOK FORWARD TO MOVING THIS PROJECT FORWARD WITH THE CITY'S BLESSING. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR WHEELER. COUNCILOR MYERS. YES, SIR. MR MAYOR. I MOVE THAT WE, UH APPROVED THE RECOMMENDATION. FOR 1964 PUDDLE DUCK ROAD. THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING TO PETERSBURG. ALRIGHT THAT THERE'S A MOTION FOR COUNCIL MEYERS SAYING TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION. ALL RIGHT. COUNCILMAN. HELL. SECOND EMOTION , SECOND BY COUNCILOR HILL AND I DISCUSSED MY MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. SAME NIGHT, MADAM CLERK. CAN YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? REMEMBER COMFORT. AH, REMEMBER WILSON SMITH. I HIRE. COUNCIL MEMBER WESTBROOK, REMEMBER HILL. I PASSED. THANK YOU. ONE QUESTION . ONE QUESTION. WHAT'S YOUR TIME FRAME? DO YOU HAVE A TIME FRAME? AS OF YET, APRIL 1ST. 2023 2023. OKAY. THANK YOU. NEXT IS ITEM C, CONSIDERATION TO ADOPT A

[3.c. Consideration to adopt a resolution to approve the amendments to the City of Petersburg disposition guidelines for city-owned real estate property. (Page 27)]

IT'S ALREADY BEEN APPROVED. GOTTA SLIDE PRESENTATION. UP UP SHORTLY. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

BASICALLY WE'RE GONNA PROVIDE THE INFORMATION ON HOW BIDDERS AND BUYERS WILL BID ON THE CITY OWNED PROPERTIES IN GOP DEALS ARE THE PROPERTIES THAT CITY COUNCIL WILL APPROVED. FOR SALE.

[00:25:04]

BEFORE WE TAKE QUESTIONS. GOOD MORNING. UM MY PARTNER THAT HANDLES THESE DETAILS AT A HOSPITAL EMERGENCY YESTERDAY, SO I'M GOING TO DO THE BEST I CAN. SO IF I CAN'T ANSWER ANYTHING, I'LL GET BACK BACK TO YOU IMMEDIATELY ON ANY ANSWERS, BUT GO AHEAD. QUESTIONS COUNSELOR WESTON SMITH. YES. ONE QUESTION . UM, I THINK IT'S PAGE THREE, IT SAYS. BUT THIS MIGHT BE FOR MR MOORE. ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STAFF CAN ACCEPT OR DENY A BIAS REQUEST TO BID BASED ON INFORMATION PROVIDED WHAT? WHAT TYPE OF INFORMATION WOULD WOULD MAKE ONE DENY THAT REQUEST.

THEY'RE NOT FINANCIALLY FEASIBLE TO DO THAT, OR ALSO, IF WE DO A CHECK THROUGH THE SYSTEM, ONE OF THE THINGS WE DO IS WE DO CHECK TO SEE IF THEY OWE BACK TAXES. OR THERE'S ANY OTHER ACTIONS THAT COULD CAUSE THAT TO BE REJECTED. OR WE COULD BRING IT TO COUNSEL. AND COUNSELORS HAVE DECIDED THAT THE PERSON IS NOT ACCEPTABLE TO BEING SO THERE'S ALWAYS THOSE CHECKS AND BALANCES, MA'AM. THANK YOU, MA'AM. QUESTION. COUNCILOR HILL. UM LET'S SAY WE DO. HARDER HOW IS THE CITY REIMBURSED? LET'S SAY WE GET AN APPLICANT TO GIVE THEIR MONEY AND THEN FOR WHATEVER PARENT REASON COUNCIL. DENIES THEM AND THEN WE GIVE THEM BACK THEIR MONEY. UH HOW? BECAUSE TIME AND EFFORT HAS BEEN PUT IN THERE. HOW DOES THE COUNT ? HOW DOES THE CITY BEING REIMBURSED FOR THE TIME SPENT. WORKING ON THE APPLICANT. WELL THROUGH THE PROCESS, RIGHT? WELL IF THE IF THE SALE DOES NOT CLOSE, THERE'S NO MONEY EXCHANGED FROM THE APPLICANT. TO THE CITY UNTIL THE SALE CLOSES. SO THERE'S NO MONEY THAT THE CITY WOULD YOU KNOW, YOU MIGHT HAVE TO DO SOME WORK. ON ONE SIDE, BUT IN THE END, WE'RE HOPING WE'RE GOING TO BRING YOU BETTER, A LOT BETTER RETURNS THAN WHAT YOU'VE BEEN MAKING. SO IN THE END, I THINK IT'S GONNA COVER THAT DIFFERENCE IN TERMS OF TIME AND MONEY THAT YOU WOULD SPEND TRYING TO PROCESS THESE.

THE PROCESS IS REALLY VERY SIMPLE, BUT WE GOT IT DOWN TO A SCIENCE AND, UH, THE CITY HAS

[00:30:04]

WE'RE JUST ADDING OUR COMPONENTS TO THE GOP DEALS. WELL. YES OR NO. UM, I'M TROUBLED. I MEAN, IT MAY WELL BE REALTORS WITH BOOTS ON THE GROUND. THAT NO PETERSBURG AH! THAT I WOULD HAVE WOULD BE WILLING TO WORK HARD. TWO. PUSHED THIS THESE PARCELS. FOR THE 5% COMMISSION. AND IT MAY BE THAT THEY'RE NOT. I DON'T KNOW, BUT HAVE WE REALLY TESTED THAT WATER TO SEE WHETHER THERE'S THROUGH PROCUREMENT. HAVE WE TESTED THAT WATER TO SEE WHETHER THERE'S ANY COMPETING? INTEREST AND MAYBE THEY. THEY GIVE US 6% INSTEAD OF 5% OR 7. INSTEAD OF 5. OUR I DON'T KNOW.

BACK TO THE QUESTION. HAVE WE GONE THROUGH THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS BEFORE SELECTING GOOD DEALS? COUNCIL MEMBER CUPBOARD. THE CITY DID NOT GO THROUGH A SEPARATE PROCUREMENT PROCESS FOR THIS, BUT THE CITY DOES HAVE A CONTRACT WITH GOD DEALS FOR DISPOSITION OF SURPLUS PROPERTY.

OKAY WELL, I GUESS WE GET INTO A QUESTION INFAMOUS. AT LEAST MR WILLIAMS. IS THERE ANYTHING IS THERE ANY OBLIGATION TO GO THROUGH PROCUREMENT BEFORE WE GO ANY FURTHER WITH THIS? TYPICALLY IF THE CONTRACT IS IN EXCESS OF $5000 YOU YOU HAVE TO DO A SOLICITATION UNLESS YOU'RE DOING IT THROUGH COOPERATIVE PROCUREMENT. WHAT MISS IN IT SAYS DESCRIBED WOULD DEPEND ON

[00:35:02]

WHAT WE CAN DO IS WE CAN REVIEW THAT PROCUREMENT PROCESS AND BRING THIS ITEM BACK TO YOU IN SEPTEMBER. IF YOU'D LIKE. I THINK I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL OF AND IT RAISES THE QUESTION OF WHETHER THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT WENT THROUGH THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS OR NOT. I MEAN, MAYBE THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT MAYBE ALL OUR TEAS WERE CROSSED AND I'S WERE DOTTED AND MAYBE THEY WERE NOT. JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE A CONTRACT. I WOULDN'T THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE THE DEFINITIVE ANSWER. UM. EVEN IF THE LANGUAGE OF THE CONTRACT WERE BROAD ENOUGH.

LISTEN PERHAPS EVEN THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT. WOULD BE IN VIOLATION OF SOME PROCUREMENT. REQUIREMENT WELL, LET ME SO THAT WOULD BE GREAT IF YOU WOULD BRING IT BACK. IF THAT'S THE WILL OF COUNCIL. UH BUT LET ME GO TO MY SECOND QUESTION IS AND SO I I'M SURE THAT WHEN YOU IF YOU. BRING THIS BACK. IF THAT'S THE WILL OF COUNCIL, UM, THERE WERE A NUMBER OF DAYS HERE THAT CONFUSED ME DEADLINES ON PAGE 31. IT SPEAKS OF A SEVEN DAY BIDDING PERIOD. DURING THAT SEVEN DAYS. AH! A FAIR AMOUNT OF STUFF. IT'S GOT TO BE DONE. IF WE LOOK AT PAGE 33. SAYS ALL PROPOSALS SHOULD INCLUDE A TENTATIVE BUSINESS PLAN SITE DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND SUPPORTING FINANCIAL STATEMENTS.

SO COMPETING BITTER WOULD HAVE SEVEN DAYS AS IT'S THE PAPERWORK IN FRONT OF US READS AH, UM TWO.

FIRST LEARN OF THE OF THE OF THE BID. TO DEVELOP A TENTATIVE BUSINESS PLAN. REDEVELOPER SITE DEVELOPMENT PLAN. FORWARD AH DEVELOPED SUPPORTING FINANCIAL STATEMENTS AND I GUESS SUBMIT ALL OF THAT TO THE PLANET. DEPARTMENT ORDERED THE DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. I'M SORRY. AND GET A STAMP OF APPROVAL. AND THAT SEEMS TO ME TO BE ASKING FOR AN AWFUL LOT OF PRETTY TOM, THEN ON THE SCREEN, NOT THE ONE WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US, BUT ONE THAT WAS UP EARLIER. THERE WAS SOMETHING ABOUT 7 TO 15 DAYS. I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THAT REFERRED TO AND HOW YOU DETERMINE WHETHER IT'S GONNA BE SEVEN OR WHETHER IT'S GONNA BE 15. AND THEN THERE WAS ALSO, I THINK REFERENCE TO 45 DAYS ON THE SCREEN. AND THEN THERE WAS A REFERENCE TO 30 DAYS ON THE SCREEN. THESE ARE A LOT OF CLOCKS THAT TICKET AND I'M NOT SURE WHETHER THEY ARE ALL STARTED THE SAME POINT OR HOW THEY ARE COORDINATED. ACH EXACTLY SURE. SO THE 45 DAYS IS THE WHOLE AUCTION PERIOD. SO INITIALLY YOU WOULD HAVE A VIEWING PERIOD WHERE THERE WOULD BE NO BIDDING THE 1ST 30 DAYS AND THEN YOU WOULD OPEN UP. AT THE CITY'S DISCRETION. 7 TO 15 DAYS, WHATEVER NUMBER YOU WANTED, IF YOU WANTED 15 DAYS OF BIDDING, WHATEVER IS EASIEST FOR THEM TO HANDLE AND DEAL WITH AND WATCH AND SUCH. SO YOU SAID YOU SET THE TOTAL TIME FRAME.

WHATEVER YOU DECIDE IF YOU WANT IT OUT THERE FOR 90 DAYS, YOU CAN PUT IT FOR 90 DAYS. THIS IS JUST WHAT WE FOUND IS WORK BEST WITH THE OTHER CITIES THAT THE TIME FRAME THAT WE WORKED WITH.

ALRIGHT SO THAT ANSWERS THE 7 TO 15 DAYS NOW DID I ALSO SEE 45 DAYS? THAT'S THE INITIAL. THAT'S THE TOTAL PERIOD. SO YOU HAVE THE 30 DAYS OF INITIAL VIEWING, WHICH MEETS LIKE YOUR ADVERTISING REQUIREMENT. AND SO NOW THERE'S NO BIDDING, AND THEN WE TURNED THE BIDDING BUTTON ON AT THE END OF THE 30 DAYS, AND YOU CAN DECIDE THE 7 TO 15 IS JUST ARBITRARY NUMBER IS ONE WE USUALLY USE, BUT YOU CAN USE ANY NUMBER YOU WANT FOR THE BIDDING PERIOD. SO IF WE EXPAND THE 7 TO 15 IF WE DID WITH THAT EXPAND THE 45 IS THAT CORRECT. OKAY? AH BECAUSE 45 IS KIND OF THE START TO FINISH. AH, CLOCK. OKAY? AND THEN WITHIN THAT, 45 THEY TIMELINE. THERE'S SOMETHING ABOUT 30 DAYS. THAT'S THE BEING PERIOD THAT THAT'S THE VIEWING PERIOD. SO IT'S BASICALLY LIKE WHEN YOU WOULD PUT THE PROPERTY IN THE NEWSPAPER OR SUCH, EXCEPT IT'S GONNA BE ONLINE INSTEAD.

FOR VIEWING TO HANDLE THAT REQUIREMENT. I SEE. OKAY COULD I JUST SPEAK TO THE PLANNING?

[00:40:01]

AND THEN IF IT TAKES SIX MONTHS TO GET IT ALL APPROVED AND CLOSED THEN YOU DO THAT, AFTER THE FACT. AND IF IT DOES NOT. YOU CAN'T COME TO AN AGREEMENT. THEN YOU PUT THE PROPERTY BACK OUT FOR AUCTION WITH SOMEONE ELSE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MR MOORE. WE TALKED BRIEFLY ABOUT, UH, CONTINUING THIS OR TABLING THIS UNTIL A LATER DATE. AH! WHAT. IN LIGHT OF OUR DISCUSSION. IS THAT YOUR RECOMMENDATION? AND IF SO, TO WHAT DATE? DO WE TABLE IT? DO WE TABLE IT TO OUR BUSINESS MEETING IN SEPTEMBER OR DO WE TABLE IT TO OUR WORK SESSION DAY AND MAYBE HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING ON THAT WORK SESSION DAY, WHICH WOULD BE SEPTEMBER THE SIXTH.

WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT? ONE WE DO WANT TO BRING THIS BACK TO YOU WILL REVIEW THE PROCUREMENT AND WE CAN WORK. WHATEVER THE COUNCIL SCHEDULE IS ITS FIRST WEEK IN SEPTEMBER, IF YOU WANT TO BRING HAVE US BRING IT BACK AT THE WORKS MEETING OR WE CAN BRING IT INTO FULL BODY SO ALL RIGHT. WELL THANK YOU, MR MORE, MR MAYOR, I WOULD MOVE THAT WE TABLE THIS UNTIL OUR UNTIL SEPTEMBER. 6TH AT WHICH TIME WE HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING. THAT WILL ALLOW US TO TAKE ACTION ON THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. I THINK WE GOTTA CONTINUE. WE GOTTA CONTINUE BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE DON'T KNOW WHETHER WE'RE IN VIOLATION OF THE PROCUREMENT LAW. UM. JUST FOR THE RECORD. I JUST WANT TO STATE THAT WE APPROVED THE RESOLUTION TO USE GOVERNMENT DEALS IN THE JUNE MEETING. AND WE ARE JUST AMENDING THE DISPOSITION PROCESS TO ADD TO IT. ALRIGHT TIME. YEAH, BUT EVERYTHING IS SUPERSEDED BY PROCUREMENT LAW. AND JUST BECAUSE WE ADOPTED A RESOLUTION IN THE PAST AT AN EARLIER MEETING THAT MAY HAVE BEEN IN VIOLATION OF THE PROCUREMENT LAW. ALL RIGHT. THERE WAS A MOTION ON THE FLOOR OF THE TABLE, AND IT WAS KNIGHTS SECONDED. SO AT THIS TIME COUNSELOR WESTMAN HAD A QUESTION. QUESTION PLEASE. AND THAT WAS HAVE WE HAD ANY ISSUES.

OR PROBLEMS WITH THE CURRENT CONTRACT THAT WE HAVE WITH WITH YOU. I WOULD SAY FROM THE GOV DEAL STANDPOINT, I'VE NOT HEARD ANY COMPLAINTS FROM THE CITY AND THE THREE YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH GOV DEALS. I THINK IN GENERAL, WE'VE BEEN DOING QUITE WELL FOR YOU. ALL OF THE SALES ARE PUBLICLY AVAILABLE ON THE WEBSITE. I THINK I'VE HAD REALLY GOOD RETURNS WITH US.

PEOPLE ARE SAYING ANYTHING. AND YOU WOULD CONCUR, MR MOORE? YES, MA'AM. NOTHING HAS COME THROUGH OUR OUR DEPARTMENT. AND IS THERE OR HOW MUCH ADDITIONAL MONIES WOULD GO TO UM GO DOT DEAL. IF WE APPROVE THIS, THE SO 5% IS ADDED ON THE TOP OF THE SALE, AND THAT'S THE GOV. DEALS FEED.

THE CITY WOULD NOT PAY THAT THE BUYER AS THE EXTRA 5% ON SO THANK YOU SO MUCH. ALRIGHT, COUNSELOR, MYERS. UM NO. I WAS GONNA FOLLOW UP WITH MYSTIC COUNCILMAN, EXPERTS COMMENTS, BUT I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA BECAUSE THERE IS A VAST AMOUNT OF INDIVIDUALS WILL SEE IT ACROSS THE UNITED STATES AND BEYOND, RATHER THAN JUST HIRING A REALTOR. TO JUST SHOWCASE THAT HERE WHO HAS A VERY RESTRICTIVE DISTRICT IN ORDER TO ADVERTISE AND SO UM. YES SIR. YES SIR. MR HILL, CHANCELLOR HERE, SO A MOVE THAT WE ADOPT. UM THE CHANGES. UM. YOU KNOW, BEFORE US SECOND

[00:45:03]

MR BEER IF I MAY ADD SOME FORM, MR MOORE. UM THAT WOULD YOU MIND HAVING YOUR OFFICE TO UPDATE UM , DUE TO REDISTRICTING UPDATE ALL OF THE PROPERTIES THAT YOU HAVE LISTED. HERE. HMM MR MAYOR MEMBERS COUNCIL. YES, SIR. WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF DOING THAT . WE'RE ALSO UPDATING THE FULL G I S SYSTEM. CURRENTLY WHAT HAS HAPPENED WHEN THE VOTER CARDS WENT OUT. THEY HAD THEIR CURRENT IF ANY OF THE PROPERTIES THAT CHANGE THERE'S APPROXIMATELY 1400 PROPERTIES THAT CHANGED BETWEEN WARDS. THAT INFORMATION IS NOT YET ON THE G. I S BUT WE'RE WORKING WITH THE ASSESSOR'S OFFICE TO GET THAT ACCURATE. SO YES, SIR. WE'LL TAKE THAT AS A TASK. THANK YOU.

NEXT ITEM. D.

[3.d. Consideration of a resolution approving the Interim City Manager to sign and submit a grant application to the Department of Housing and Community Development, for the submittal of an Industrial Revitalization Fund Grant for the demolition of the former Ramanda Inn located on 380 East Washington Street. (Page 47)]

[3.e. Consideration of a resolution approving the Interim City Manager to sign the Virginia Brownsfields Assistance Funds Site Assessment and Planning Grant Performance Agreement for the Harbor Project. (Page 50)]

[Additional Item 1]

[Additional Item 2]

[01:01:45]

[01:01:55]

[01:02:01]

NEXT IS ADJOURNMENT.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.