Oct 18, 2022 Regular City Council Meeting

CLOSED SESSION. THE MEETING IS ADJOURNED. NEXT. WE'LL ROLL ONTO OUR REGULAR SCHEDULE. CITY

[1. Roll Call]

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[4. Determination of the Presence of a Quorum]

[5. Proclamations/Recognitions/Presentation of Ceremonial Proclamations]

GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS SARAH MELISSA WITH JACK I'M A PROFESSOR AT VIRGINIA STATE UNIVERSITY. AND I WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU SOME OF THE WORK THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING HERE IN PETERSBURG. UM TO UNDERSTAND HE HEAT ISLANDS AND TO HELP YOU GUYS MAKE SOME INFORMED DECISIONS ABOUT HOW WE USE THE LAND IN THIS CITY. UM SO IT MAY BE A LITTLE BIT CHILLY OUTSIDE TODAY. UM, BUT IF YOU THINK BACK TO JULY AND AUGUST, IT WAS REALLY QUITE HOT. UM AND SO UM, I WOULD LIKE YOU TO KEEP THOSE THAT FEELING OF THAT HEAT. IN IN YOUR MIND. UM IT WAS 95 97 SOME OF THOSE DAYS AND SO SOME OF THE PLACES WERE HOTTER THAN OTHERS. OKAY AND IF WE CAN GET THIS TO GO BUT YOU DID EARLIER. THERE WE GO. UM SOME PLACES IN THE CITY GET HOT, AND THEY STAY HOT EVEN AFTER THE SUN GOES DOWN. UM THAT IS BECAUSE WE HAVE SOME BUILDINGS WHICH ABSORBED THE HEAT FROM THE SUN. UM WE HAVE LOTS OF MACHINES SUCH AS AIR CONDITIONERS ARE CARS. UM ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE CONTRIBUTING TO HEAT. UM OTHER THINGS THAT CAN CONTRIBUTE TO RETAINING THAT HEAT DURING THE DAY. INCLUDE PARKING LOTS, AND SO. WE PAY A PRICE FOR SOME OF THESE THINGS THAT WE REALLY DO NEED AS WELL. WE PAY AN INCREASED COST FOR COOLING FOR AIR CONDITIONING. UM IF YOU DON'T HAVE A RECONDITIONING YOUR KIND OF UP A CREEK, UM, UNLESS THE CITY HAS, AS THEY DID THIS SUMMER COOLING STATIONS, UM, THEIR INCREASED HEAT CAN ALSO LEAD TO INCREASED POLLUTION AS WE HAVE VOLATILES COMING FROM THAT ASPHALT. UM AND THAT LEADS TO A POOR AIR QUALITY . UM, EXACERBATING HEALTH RISKS LIKE ASTHMA. UM AND WE ALSO HAVE AN INCREASE IN HEAT RELATED DEATHS, SO HELPING THIS HEAT CAN HELP US TO MAKE SOME BETTER DECISIONS AND ONE OF THE PIECES OF HOPE IN ALL OF THIS IS THAT WE HAVE WATER CLOSE BY ONE OF THE APPOMATTOX RIVER AND SOME STREAMS THAT CAN HELP TO COOL THE AREA. AS WELL AS TREE COVER . UM SO TREE COVER NOT ONLY PROVIDE SHADE, BUT IT ALSO, UM EVAPORATES WATER AND THAT IS A VERY EFFICIENT NATURAL AIR CONDITIONER. AND IF WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, THERE WE GO. SO HERE IS A MAP SATELLITE DATA OF PETERSBURG AND YOU CAN SEE WHERE THERE'S LOTS OF PAVEMENT, UM AND BUILDING AND DEVELOPMENT PRETTY MUCH NORTH OF 85. THEN WE HAVE A FEW VERY SPECIAL IMPORTANT PLACES. UM LEGENDS PARK BATTLEFIELD PARK. UM AND TO THE SOUTH, SOME PLACES WHERE THERE ARE MORE TREES AND FOREST. AND

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FOR, UM ALL DIFFERENT ROUTES THREE TIMES DURING THE DAY, AND THIS SHOWS YOU THE AFTERNOON HEAT IN DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE CITY. UM YOU CAN SEE OLD TOWN IS VERY HOT. AND IF YOU REMEMBER THERE WERE VERY FEW TREES THERE A LOT OF ASPHALT AND BUILT, UM, ENVIRONMENT AND THEN, UM, WHERE WE HAD MORE TREES SUCH AS IN LEGENDS PARK. UM, THAT TEMPERATURE DIFFERENCE IS ALMOST 10 DEGREES, SO YOU MAY THINK THAT A TREE AND TREE COVER DOESN'T DO MUCH BESIDES PROVIDE SOME SHADE. UM BUT IF YOU ARE OUTSIDE WORKING, OR IF YOU'RE WAITING TO CATCH A BUS, UM I WOULD MUCH RATHER WAIT FOR WHAT? TO CATCH A BUS IN 88 DEGREE WEATHER, UM THAN IN 98 DEGREE WEATHER. UM, SO AS. WE BEGIN TO THINK ABOUT, UM, STRATEGIC PLANNING FOR THE CITY AND, UM, IN THE FACE OF CLIMATE CHANGE. WE DO NEED TO USE THIS INFORMATION TO MAKE SOME REALLY IMPORTANT DECISIONS. UM TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. UM SO HOW CAN WE USE THIS INFORMATION TO MAKE SOME COMPLICATED DECISIONS? UM ONE PIECE OF THIS IS TO PROTECT OUR CURRENT TREE COVER.

UM TREES DO TAKE TIME TO GROW. AND SO WE NEED TO BEGIN PLANNING FOR THAT. NOW THERE ARE GRANTS AVAILABLE TO DO THAT. THERE'S A Q R CODE ON THIS IF ANYBODY'S INTERESTED IN FREE TREES FOR PETERSBURG RESIDENTS THERE ABSOLUTELY FREE. WE HAVE A GRANT FOR THAT, BUT THEY'RE ALSO GRANTS TO SUPPORT THE CITY. UM BUSINESSES, UM, AS THEY LOOK TO SUPPORT NEW VEGETATION. UM SO HOW DO WE INCREASE THE TREE COVER AGAIN? UM THESE TREES, UM DO YOU REALLY HELPED TO NOT ONLY COOL THE AREA, BUT THEY ALSO MAKE IT A NICER PLACE TO LIVE. IF YOU THINK ABOUT ATTRACTING PEOPLE TO THE CITY, UM AND I BET NOBODY IS GOING TO SHOW THAT MIDDLE PICTURE THERE OF CREATOR ROAD THEY WILL INSTEAD SHOW NICE, LEAFY, TREE COVERED AREAS OF PETERSBURG. AND SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT NOT ONLY ARE WE SHOWING, UM THESE PLACES TO OUR POTENTIAL VISITORS. BUT WE ALSO MAKE SURE THAT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE WAITING ON CREATOR ROAD FOR THE BUS HAVE ACCESS TO TREE COVER AND COOL, COOL SPACES AS WELL. UM THERE ARE ALSO GRANTS TO STRATEGICALLY REHABILITATE ASPHALT PARKING LOTS. PRETTY MUCH ANYTHING YOU CAN IMAGINE ROOFTOPS. UM. FOR INSTANCE, LOCATING SOLAR PANELS ON ROOFTOPS. UM AND, UM, DEVELOPING THESE PARTNERSHIPS, SO THERE ARE A LOT OF GROUPS WORKING TOGETHER ON THESE ISSUES ACROSS. UM VIRGINIA. UM, WE WERE PART OF ONE OF 10 CITIES TO DO THIS HEAT MAPPING, AND SO NOW WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO IS TO CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE CITY AND ANY INTERESTED RESIDENTS OR NEIGHBORHOODS. UM TO, UM, MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE PLANNING FOR THE FUTURE. UM TO GET THOSE TREES IN PLACE BEFORE THINGS HEAT UP TOO MUCH, UM, SO WITH ONE FINAL WORD, I WOULD LIKE TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO, UM, IN THE SOMEWHAT IN THE VEIN OF JONI MITCHELL TO UNPAVED PETERSBURG AND PUT UP A PARADISE. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. NEXT IS ITEM SIX RESPONSES TO PREVIOUS PUBLIC

[6. Responses to Previous Public Information Posted]

[7. Approval of Consent Agenda (to include minutes of previous meetings):]

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[8. Official Public Hearings]

THIS PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED. NEXT DISCUSSION FROM COUNSEL COUNSELING MYERS SO MOVE ALL RIGHT. COUNCILMAN COVER SECOND, ALRIGHT AND DISCUSSION FROM MEMBERS OF COUNCIL PROMOTION TO SECOND. ALL RIGHT. CNN. MADAME CLARK, CAN YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? COUNCIL MEMBER CUTHBERT COUNCIL MEMBER WILSON SMITH, I COUNCIL MEMBER MYERS COUNCIL MEMBER WESTBROOK REMEMBER HILL BY SMITH LEE PERM MOTIONS PASSED NEXT ITEM MAY BE A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION FOR ORDINANCE APPROVING AN AMENDMENT TO THE PERMITTED USES PREVIOUSLY APPROVED WITH THE CURRENT ZONING BE TOO. GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT WITH CONDITIONS FOR THE PROPERTIES LOCATED AT 6016 OH 76 , 13, 6 19 AND 6 27 OLD WAGNER ROAD, MR TABOR. HONORABLE MAYOR , VICE MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL. THIS IS A AN ORDINANCE REQUESTING THE AMENDMENT AN AMENDMENT TO THE APPROVED USES THAT AH! ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY. THE PLANNING COMMISSION CONSIDERED THIS I&-PH SEPTEMBER 1ST 2022 MEETING. AND RECOMMENDED THAT THE CITY COUNCIL DENIED THE PROPOSAL TO AMEND THE PERMITTED USES. UH RELATED TO THE PROPERTY. THERE WAS CONSIDERABLE CONCERN FROM RESIDENTS REGARDING THE IMPACT OF THE PROPOSED CHANGES ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOOD. OKAY? ALL RIGHT.

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OKAY, YOU CAN COME COME UP TO THE. YEAH. COME TO THE MICROPHONE TO COME TO THE MIC.

OKAY EVERYONE. GOOD EVENING. CAN I BE YOUR NAME AND YOUR CAROLINE EEL? AND I LIVE AT 5 82 OLD WAGNER ROAD IN MY FAMILY HAS BEEN THERE FOR OVER 45 YEARS. GOOD EVENING, SIR. I MET YOU AT GRAPES HOPS THIS WEEKEND AND MY CONCERN IS WE I'M RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE DEVELOPMENTS OF THE, UM MAXILLARY SURGERY CENTER. AND AREA SINCE THE GROWTH OF THE NEW HOMES IN THE AREA THAT WE'RE GLAD TO SEE THAT THEY'VE BUILT IN BERKELEY ESTATES. IT'S GOOD TO SEE THAT THE MILITARY HAVE A PLACE TO LIVE. AND WE DON'T MIND THAT GROWTH OF YOU KNOW, BRINGING PROPERTY AND BRINGING PEOPLE IN BECAUSE THAT BRINGS A GREAT NEIGHBORHOOD. THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS QUIET. WE HAVE HAD SOME ISSUES WITH VANDALISM SENSE OF THE INCREASE. MOST OF US HAVE CAMERAS ON OUR HOMES AND EVERYTHING THE PROPERTY BECAUSE IT'S ACROSS THE STREET IN FRONT OF MY HOME IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT, PEOPLE PULL OFF FROM THE HIGHWAY. AND PARK AT ALL HOURS OF THE NIGHT. THEY COULD BE PEOPLE GETTING OFF CHANGING THEIR BABY'S DIAPERS FROM OFF THE HIGHWAY FROM TRAVELING. OR IT COULD BE JUST SOMEONE SITTING THERE MONITORING THE NEIGHBORHOOD. IT'S A CONCERN OF MINE THAT WE HAVE. BUSINESSES THERE THAT ARE OPEN FROM 8 TO 5 IF THEY COULD CONTINUE IF THEY WANTED TO USE THIS AREA FOR SOMETHING IMPORTANT, LET'S KEEP IT FOR MEDICAL. YOU KNOW, WE GOT LOTS OF MEDICAL OFFICES THERE. UM I THINK THEY MENTIONED A MAILING SERVICE OR SOMETHING.

BUT WE CAN'T DO RESTAURANTS AND BARBER SHOPS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BECAUSE THAT BRINGS THE TYPE OF TRAFFICKING THAT WOULD INCREASE THE MUSIC BANGING AT NIGHT. AND THAT WOULD REALLY, REALLY ANNOY THE NEIGHBORS WHO HAVE GROWN IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD HOOD HAVE HELPED ELDERLY PARENTS LIKE MYSELF. AND LIKE I SAID, I THINK WE'RE ONE OF THE OLDEST PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD SINCE 1977. I MEAN, I WAS IN HIGH SCHOOL DURING THIS TIME. SO I'M REALLY FIGHTING FOR US TO KEEP IT A NICE NEIGHBORHOOD KEEP BEAUTIFUL HOMES GROWING IN THE AREA AND KEEP IT SAFE. YOU KNOW FROM A LOT OF THE DESTRUCTION OF YOU KNOW OVERLY THINGS IF YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SAYING, THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO A NEIGHBORHOOD. WE DON'T WANT TO RESTAURANT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD ACROSS THE STREET. I'M SUPPORTING DOWNTOWN PETERSBURG.

AND ALL OF THE AREAS HERE AND NO NO RESTAURANT OR COFFEE SHOP OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT NEEDS TO BE THERE. KEEP IT. MEDICAL KEEP IT SIMPLE. OKAY OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SEE YOU GUYS. HAVE A GOOD EVENING. GET AWAY. GOOD EVENING, VICE. GOOD EVENING. AND COUNCIL MOMENTS. MY NAME IS BURNELL GANNAWAY 6 52 OLD WAGNER ROAD. PETERSBURG. I'M ALSO A RESIDENT OF BROOKLYN MILON. WE'VE BEEN HERE 23 YEARS MY DAUGHTER WAS WAS REAL. THERE WERE GROWING IT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE WE LOVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF THE PEACE. A LOT OF THINGS WE HAVE OVERLOOKED. WE HAVE SOME SOME INEFFICIENCIES SAYS THAT WE OVERLOOKED HIM AND DID NOT COMPLAIN ABOUT HIM. BUT WE LOVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE OF THE CAMARADERIE WE HAVE WITHOUT THE NEIGHBORS WOULD HAVE. WE HAVE NEW NEIGHBORS COMING IN, AND WE ENJOY WHAT WE WERE GETTING. WE DO NOT NEED ANYTHING TO ADD TO THAT. WE LIKE THE PIECE WE WERE GETTING. WE LIKE THOSE THAT CAN COME IN WITH RETIRED TO WANT TO RETIRE. THOSE WHO WANT TO MOVE IN AND IT WOULD HAVE RENT TO COME INTO RENT.

THEY KNOW HOW TO RESPECT THAT AREA WHERE WE DO HAVE SOME INADEQUACIES THAT OCCURS BUT WE WANT THIS TO STAY THE SAME AS BROOKLYN MANOR THAT I KNOW OF THAT MY DAUGHTER GREW UP IN MY GRANDDAUGHTER DAUGHTER GREW UP AND THAT I CAN DECIDE THAT COULD STAY IF I WANT TO. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. YES, THE HAND. HELLO MY NAME IS TERESA HUSSEIN. I RESIDE AT 636 OLD WAGNER ROADS.

DURING THE MICROPHONE DOWN. YES. CAN YOU HEAR ME? ALL RIGHT. DURING THE HEARING ARE DURING THE PREVIOUS MEETINGS. WE DISCUSSED, UH, THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS CONCERNED ABOUT

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GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS TONY GAINS OVER 661 FLYNN LANE. AND BURGLAR MANNER. I'M ALSO THE PRESIDENT OF THE BURGLAR MANOS CIVIC ASSOCIATION. UM PAST FEW MONTHS. WE HAVE BEEN COMMUNICATING ABOUT THIS REQUEST. AND THE CURRENT CONDITIONS OF THIS VISA ON IT.

AND THAT'S WHY A LOT OF HISTORY BACK IN 2008. DEVELOPER. CAME BEFORE THE PIZZA GONNA SIT THERE. PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE CITY COUNCIL. AND REQUESTED A SIMILAR REQUEST. TO REZONE THIS LAND. 14 14 YEARS LATER. BECOMES ANOTHER REQUEST. BASICALLY THE SAME AS A WORD BACK IN 2008. I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND YOU THAT BACK IN 2008. AFTER THE DEVELOPERS GOT WITH THE. RESIDENTS OF BERKELEY MANNER AND WE CAME UP WITH A COMPROMISE. 22 RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THE REZONING. WITH CONDITIONS. THE PROPERTY OWNER AT THAT TIME IS NOW REQUESTING THAT THOSE CONDITIONS THAT WERE THAT HE PROFFERED BACK IN 2008. THE EXPANDED SO NOW. HE HAS LISTED. SHE HAS LISTED NUMEROUS OTHER POSSIBLE USES. FOR ZONA REZONING IF IT IS APPROVED. I WOULD DEFINITELY GO ALONG. WITH THE PETERSBURG PLANNING COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATIONS.

NOT TO APPROVE. THIS REQUEST FOR REZONING OR EXPANSION OF THE CONDITIONS. OKAY. THANK YOU, MR GANGS. NEXT ANYMORE HANDS. YES, RIGHT HERE. HELLO MY NAME IS MISHAP ASKED OVER. I AM A TEACHER. I'M SORRY. MY NAME IS COREY TO HASKINS AND I AM A RESIDENT OF BERKELEY MANNER. I MOVED HERE JUST BEFORE THE PANDEMIC TO PETERSBURG. I LOOKED AT TONS OF HOUSES BEFORE THEY BECAME SO EXPENSIVE THIS YEAR. UM BUT I MOVED TO BERKELEY MANNER BECAUSE WHEN I FIRST TOUR THE NEIGHBORHOOD UM, THE NEIGHBORS NEXT DOOR. THEY GREETED ME AND THEY WERE SO FRIENDLY AND I ENJOYED THE COMMUNITY AND THE QUIET AND PEACE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. UM SO I WOULD LIKE TO ADD MY INPUT TO THE DISCUSSION. UM I WOULD LIKE US NOT TO APPROVE THAT REZONING . UM I DO HAVE A GROWING FAMILY AND THERE ARE LOTS AND LOTS OF CHILDREN IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND I DO HAVE SOME OF MY STUDENTS WHO LIVED THERE. I WOULD HATE FOR THEM TO BE INFLUENCED OR INTERRUPTING IN THE INTERRUPTION TO THEIR HOME LIFE INTO WHAT'S FAMILIAR, UM. TO OUR COMMUNITY

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GOOD EVENING TO ALL PRESENT FOR THE PUBLIC RECORD. I'M DR KENNETH LEWIS. FIVE OH THREE.

MISTLETOE. ST PETERSBURG WARD FIVE. AND I SPEAK IN SUPPORT OFO FAR ABOUT THIS ISSUE. PLEASE DO NOT DESTROY A PERFECTLY GOOD NEIGHBORHOOD BY ALLOWING OF DEVELOPER TO COME INTO RESIDENTIAL ZONE AND RUIN IT WHEN I LOOK AT THAT MAP UP THERE WHEN ALL OF YOU LOOK AT THAT MAP, YOU SEE THAT WAGNER ROAD HAS AMPLE SPACE FOR ZONING FOR BUSINESSES. THERE IS NO NEED TO DESTROY THE COMMUNITY OF A NEIGHBORHOOD. THERE IS NOT ONE OF THE SEVEN OF YOU WHO WOULD WANT THAT. IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD . PLEASE RESPECT OTHER PEOPLE'S NEIGHBORHOODS. PUT IT, TELL THEM THAT THEY CAN HAVE ALL THE SPACE THEY WANT ON WAGNER ROAD, BUT NOT ON OLD WAGON ROAD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YES, MA'AM IN THE BACK.

HELLO MY NAME IS RUBY BARLEY LIVE AT 5 22 PETTY STREET IN THE OLD SECTION OF WORKING AMOUNT, AND I MUST TALK ABOUT THE NEW SECTION OF THE SECOND. BUT BERKLEY MANOR IS A VERY NICE NEIGHBORHOOD. I'VE BEEN THERE FOR 25 YEARS. UM WE HAVE EDUCATORS, FINANCE TEACHERS, BUSINESS PEOPLE. WE HAVE YOU NAME IT. WE HAVE IT. WE TAKE PRIDE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. AND BECAUSE WE HAVE THOSE PEOPLE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD TRUST YOUR OPINION. NOW MOST OF THEM IF YOU LOOK AROUND AT THE CROWD TODAY, YOU KNOW, WE GOT A LOT OF GREAT HAIR, SO THAT MEANS WE GOT WISDOM. AND SOME OF US HAS LOST OUT HERE, BUT STILL WE ARE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IS SO CONNECTED. AND WE TAKE PRIDE IN EVERYTHING THAT GOES ON IN THERE NOW IS FORCED THE NEW PART OF BERKELEY MATTER. WE WERE REAL NICE TO THEM WHEN THEY CAME, WHICH WAS TREATED YOU ALL GOOD.

DIDN'T WE KNEW PEOPLE CAME. WE TREATED THEM WONDERFUL. THEY BECAME A PART OF OUR FAMILY AND WE EMBRACE THEM. SO AT THIS POINT, WE HAVE ADJUSTED TO THEM. WE ARE NOT SAYING WE DON'T WANT THEM TO. WE UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU HAVE A BUSINESS AND YOU WANT TO PROSPER. WE WANT YOU TO DO THAT.

BUT WE ALSO HAVE PUT OUR LIVES ON THE LINE. WE'VE WORKED THESE JOBS. AND NOW WE'RE READY TO RETIRE. AND WE WANT TO RETIRE TO A AREA THAT WE ARE COMFORTABLE IN WITHOUT PUTTING ALL OF THE RELATIVES IN THERE THAT WE AS A COMMUNITY IS SPEAKING AS A UNIT SAYING THAT WE DON'T WANT SO WE ASK THAT YOU GUYS CONSIDER OUR CAREERS CONSIDER OUR RETIREMENT. CONSIDER OUR FAMILIES. AND THEN CONSIDER WHAT WE'RE ASKING YOU. IS TO TAKE CONSIDERATION THAT WE DO NOT. WE'RE NOT SAYING WE DON'T WANT YOU TO PROSPER WITH YOUR LAND ITSELF, BUT NOT AT THE EXPENSE OF CAUSE AND THAT'S OUR LIVES. HOOD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. RIGHT HERE.

GOOD EVENING. I'M JUNELL PARKER. I LIVED 6 28 BREKFORD LANE. UM AT THE LAST MEETING. IT WAS BROUGHT UP. THAT THE OWNER OF THE LAND WANT TO PUT A RESTAURANT OF SOME TYPE IN THERE. FROM ONE END OF CREATIVE ROLE TO THE OTHER. YOU CAN GET ANY TYPE OF FOOD DRINK OR WHATEVER ELSE THAT YOU WANT. THERE'S NO NEED TO PUT A RESTAURANT RIGHT THERE AND I'M NEIGHBORHOOD. YOU HAVE PLENTY OF LAND ON NEW WHEN THE ROAD TO DO THAT. YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF BUILDINGS IN PETERSBURG. THAT'S EMPTY. AND NEED TO BE IMPROVED. YOU CAN PUT A RESTAURANT THERE.

BUT DON'T PUT IT IN MY BACKYARD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. RIGHT? SAYING NO MORE HANDS. IN THE MORNING AND ONE MORE. YES. YES, MA'AM. TODAY, EVERYONE. GOOD EVENING, FRANCINE A READ. 4 20

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GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS WILLIAM JAMES. I MOVED FROM NEW YORK, WHICH REALLY NOISY AND SIRENS, GOING POLICE AND ALL THE CHASING TO MOVE DOWN TO BE THIS BAD. A LOT OF PEOPLE MOVING SAID GO TO CHESTERFIELD. IS GROWING PETERSBURG'S DYING. BUT I LISTENED TO MY WIFE AND I RESIDED IN PETER'S PURPOSE. AND WAGNER. I MEAN BERKELEY MANNER. IT'S QUIET. IT'S PEACEFUL. I HAVE TWO CHILDREN. THAT GREW UP IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WERE POSITIVE PEOPLE. THEY'RE EXCELLENT. THEY'RE DOING WELL. ONE MOVE TO NEW YORK. ONE IS STILL IN BERKELEY MINE. I SUGGEST THAT WE LEAVE IT AS TRANQUIL. AS I SEE IT, BECAUSE I KNOW HOW NEW YORK IS. AND IT'S SO IT'S REALLY GREAT LIVING THERE. GOOD PEOPLE FRIENDLY. YOU CAN WALK THE NEIGHBORHOOD. NO ISSUES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YES, MA'AM. OH, AGAINST SURROGATE. UM COULD I GET YOUR ADDRESS, PLEASE? FOR BRADFORD LANE. OKAY, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING . ROSS 648 OAKWOOD CIRCLE. UM I'VE BEEN A RESIDENCE. RESIDENTS AND, UH. 1992 AND I GUESS THE NOT TO BE REDUNDANT, BUT WE FOUGHT EXTREMELY HARD IN 2008. TO TRY TO KEEP, UM. THE PARAMETERS WITHIN REASON FOR THE RESIDENTS, AND IT JUST WOULD BE A TOTAL SLAP IN THE FACE. TO NOW, HAVE THIS UNDONE. YOU KNOW ALL THE WORK THAT WE DID UNDONE. IN 2008. NOT TO MENTION. THE WAY WE STARTED THE MEETING WITH ALL OF THE GREEN SPACE WERE THE GREEN SPACE PEOPLE, AND WE GAVE UP SOME GREEN SPACE TO EVEN ALLOW THE INITIAL ZONING SO I DON'T KNOW IF THE PERSON WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, TAKING AWAY MORE TREES, BUT I THOUGHT THAT THE PROFESSOR DID AN EXCELLENT EXCELLENT JOB OF EXPLAINING UM, WHY WE NEED THEM. SO I JUST I JUST THINK IT'S COME FULL CIRCLE NOW AND IT WOULD BE JUST JUST NOT THE THING TO DO. JUST FOR THE RESIDENTS FOR THE CITY IS JUST NOT SOUND DECISION MAKING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. MR BLACK AT IN THE BACK.

GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING, FISHER. 11 64 TO 7 OLD WAGON ROAD. I LIVE NEXT TO THE PROPERTY. THAT IS UP FOR DISCUSSION TONIGHT. I MOVED TO THIS PROPERTY. AND 87. 1987. I BUILT MY HOUSE THERE. BECAUSE I LIKE THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THE DOCTORS CAME LATER ON AND PUT HIS OFFICES IN THERE, AND NOW HE WORE THE CHANGE THINGS AGAIN. RIGHT NOW WE LOVE OVER NEIGHBORHOOD. IT'S NICE AND QUIET. WE DON'T HAVE TO PUT UP WITH A WHOLE LOT OF NOISE. BONDS SHOOTING. I THINK LAST TIME I HEARD A GUN. GO OFF AND ALL NEIGHBORHOOD WAS NEW YEAR'S EVE NIGHT. BUT ACTUALLY KNEW PEOPLE THAT AND Y'ALL LIVE IN NEIGHBORHOODS. THE LOOK OUT FOR OUR NEIGHBORS. I KNOW. WELL THERE'S A LOT OF TALK ABOUT IT. WE HAVE AN UNNAMED NICE

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PERSON WANT TO DO? ONE THING WE ALSO I CAN TELL YOU BEING THERE. HE DOESN'T TAKE CARES PROFIT AT ALL. I THINK GRASS IS CUT LACK EVERY MONTH OR TWO. YEAH. BUT I'M ASKING Y'ALL. PLEASE. BLESS US. AND KEEP OUR NEIGHBORHOOD LIKE IT IS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. YES, MA'AM. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS LETHA JAMES. I LIVE AT 6 34 BRADFORD LANE. I JUST WANT TO PIGGYBACK ON WHAT THE GENTLEMAN JUST SAID. AS FAR AS THE PERSON ONE OF THE DOCTORS OFFICE. UM MAINTAINING HIS YARD. MY MOTHER GOES THAT I'VE DONE. AND I WAS IN THERE AND I CONFRONTED HIM.

ALRIGHT. YOUR GRASS IS TALL. THAT'S WHERE I LIVE IN HIS NEIGHBORHOOD. AND YOUR GRASS IS TALL. AND HE HE DID CUT IT THAT WEEK, BUT THEREAFTER. IT WAS STILL TOO IT WAS IT WOULD GROW AND HE WOULDN'T CUT IT. NOW I HAVE A DOG. AND YES, MY DOG BARK. BUT WE LET HER OUT. WE DON'T LET HER OUT EARLY IN THE MORNING BECAUSE THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS SO QUIET. AND TO BRING IN OTHER COMPANIES AND STUFF LIKE THAT IS GOING TO CREATE PROBLEMS. WOULD BE A PROBLEM FOR US. SO WE TRY TO KEEP OUR DOG QUIET, SO SHE WON'T WAKE UP EVERYBODY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND THEN YOU'RE GOING TO BRING OTHER PEOPLE IN THAT'S GOING TO CREATE PROBLEMS FOR US. SO WE WOULD LIKE TO NOT HAVE IT REZONED. NOT ALLOWED OTHER PEOPLE TO COME IN AND DISTURB THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND ONE MORE. ONE MORE THING, UM. THERE WAS A MEETING I HAD ATTENDED A MEETING AND MR GAINES HOUSE A WHILE BACK. AND I BROUGHT UP AN ISSUE. THAT WAS SOMETHING WAS GOING ON IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND NOTHING NEVER GOT DONE ABOUT IT. SO MY THING IS. AND THAT'S A LITTLE WELL, THAT'S SMART TO ME. IT'S SOMETHING BIG, BUT I JUST CAN'T PUT IT OUT THERE. AND THE THING IS TO BRING IN OTHER PEOPLE. THAT'S GOING TO CREATE MORE FRICTION. WHAT'S GOING TO BE DONE ABOUT IT. IF YOU IF YOU COMPLAIN ABOUT THE LITTLE THINGS, WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO DO ABOUT THE BIG THINGS? THAT'S MY CONCERN. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THE SAME. GOOD EVENING.

GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS MYRON HASSLE. I LIVE ON SCOTT COURT. I'M SORRY, SCOTT STREET. AND I SAID THAT BECAUSE I'VE BEEN THERE SINCE THE SCOTT COURT 1989 I MOVED THERE. AND ONE THING I HAD A DIFFERENT ALL THOSE THAT HAVE COME HERE. I SUPPORT EVERYTHING THEY SAY. BUT I WANT YOU TO KNOW I LIVE ON SCOTT STREET. HE'S ON THE STREET THERE WERE NAMED YOU GO DOWN NORMALLY GET TO THEM. CLASS STREET. NOW IT WAS OPEN. INTO BERKLEY ESTATES. I'VE SEEN AN INCREASE IN TRAFFIC ON MY STREET. I'M NOT KNOCKING NEW PURSE MOVING IN. I HAD TO MOVE IN NEW I MOVED TO NEW HOUSE IN 1989. THE PEOPLE IN SKY STREET HAD TO SKY COURT THAT I HAD TO WELCOME ME. CONCERNED BY THAT INCREASING THE TRAFFIC. AND I LOOK AT THIS LIST THAT'S BEEN PUT OUT HERE. AND I SEE BUT NOT LIMITED TO. AND HEAR ABOUT THE OTHER POSSIBILITIES. WELL, MY QUESTION IS, WE'RE GOING TO END. YOU START BUILDING OR SOMETHING OR SOMETHING. NEXT THING YOU GOT A WHOLE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING IN. I DON'T PERSONALLY WANT TO SEE MORE TRAFFIC ON MY STREET. NO MORE OF THOSE WHO LIVE ON IT. AND NOW THAT BROOKLYN MANOR HAS AN OPENING GOING TO THE SERVICE ROAD. I CALL IT PEOPLE COME RIGHT ON THROUGH HIS NEIGHBORHOOD THEY GO TO THESE BUSINESSES IS GOING TO INCREASE TRAFFIC. OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. YOU CAN HAVE PEOPLE PASSING THROUGH . YOU HAVE AN INCREASE IN CRIME , IF AN INCREASE IN ALL KINDS OF PERSONS COMING IN LOOKING SAD. I PERSONALLY AGREE WITH EVERYONE HERE. I DON'T WANT TO SEE A CHANGE. NOW I'D LIKE TO SEE PEACE WILL GET BETTER. I DON'T THINK THIS IS THE WAY TO GO. SO AGAIN, I'M MARRIED HAS AROUND 5 37 SQUAD STREET. AND MY SITUATION A LITTLE MORE APPARENT. BECAUSE I'VE SEEN THE INCREASE. IN THE TRAFFIC. HE'S ALWAYS HAVE SEEN AN INCREASE TO SOME DEGREE. BUT ONCE THEY GET

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THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. A NEWCOMER. MY NAME IS WANDA JACKSON. WE RECENTLY MOVED INTO BERKELEY ESTATES AT 1 91 COULD TAP A COURT AND WE ABSOLUTELY LOVE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, BERKELEY MAN. A BERKELEY ESTATES ONE GOOD NEIGHBORHOOD. PLEASE DON'T CHANGE IT. WE BUILD OUR RETIREMENT HOME. SO THIS IS WHERE WE PLAN TO RETIRE AND JUST LIKE THOSE WHO LIVED THERE 30 40 YEARS AND CALLING IT THEIR HOME AND RETIRED. THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO DO. THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO SAY. PLEASE DON'T AGREE TO REZONING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YES, MA'AM. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS LIQUID HARRIS. MY ADDRESS IS ONE OH, ONE ATOP ACCORD. UM I'M NEW TO PETERSBURG AREA ALTOGETHER. IT WAS A CHOICE , A DECISION THAT I REALLY STUMBLED OVER AND HAPPENED TO SEE THE LAND AND I WAS LIKE, OH, THIS IS A REALLY NICE QUIET PLACE THAT I CAN REALLY MAKE A HOME FOR MYSELF. IT'S JUST ME AND, UM, WHEN I WAS TOLD I COME TO THE MEETING LAST BECAUSE IN SEPTEMBER THAT IT WAS GONNA BE A REZONING MEETING AND I SAID, WELL, I'VE GOT TO GET OUT HERE TO SEE WHAT THIS REZONING IS ABOUT. AND THEN WHEN IT CAME UP THE IDEA THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE A RESTAURANT. AND I'M NEIGHBORHOOD. I WAS LIKE, OH, NO . I CHOSE THE WRONG PLACE TO BUILD BECAUSE I WAS TRYING TO GET AWAY. I WAS TRYING TO GET AWAY. I CAME FROM THE SHORT CLUB AREA. I WENT THROUGH A DIVORCE, AND I DECIDE I WANT TO COME TO PETERSBURG AND MAKE MY HOME. SO UM, ACTUALLY, UM, I'M TOTALLY AGAINST THE RESTAURANT. THE REZONING SO PLEASE CONSIDER THAT , UH FOR ASSESSOR RESIDENT AND I'M FROM BERKELEY S TAKES. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MR CHRISTIAN. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS ODELL PARKER JR. I STAY AT, UH, 585 ROBINSON STREET, AND I'M THE STREET COORDINATOR. I GO. FROM.

VIRGINIA TO FLORIDA ON THE REGULAR BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE I'M MY WIFE IS BUT 5.5 YEARS AGO, I CAME TO PETERSBURG TO BERKELEY MANNER AND I PURCHASED MY HOME AND THE REASON THAT I PURCHASED MY HOME IS BECAUSE IT WAS NICE AND QUIET. AND SOMEWHERE WHERE NO, I COULD IF I WANTED TO LEAVE MY DOOR UNLOCKED. AND I WOULDN'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT SOMEBODY BREAKING IN OR HEARING SHOOTING OR ANY OF THAT AFTER I RETIRED FROM THE MILITARY BUT I'M TOTALLY AGAINST HAVING A RESTAURANT. COME IN. WE'RE ALREADY IN AN OPEN UP THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO BERKELEY ESTATES, WHICH IS BEAUTIFUL. BUT THAT ALSO LIVES WITH MORE ACTIVITY COMING INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS ALREADY QUIET. YOU KNOW, I COULDN'T ASK FOR THE BETTER OF NEIGHBORS THAT I HAVE BEEN THERE FOR YEARS. THEY? YOU KNOW IF SOMETHING GO ON AROUND YOUR HOME, WE THERE AS NEIGHBORS , WE LET EACH OTHER KNOW WE HAVE CAMERAS AND SO FORTH, AND ALL BUT TO ME TO REZONE TO BRING MORE ACTIVITY INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I'M TOTALLY AGAINST IT AGAIN. MY NAME IS ODELL PARKER JR. AND I STAY AT FIVE. A FIVE ROBINSON STREET. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. IT'S A QUESTION. GOOD EVENING. MEMBERS OF COUNCIL NAME IS LYNWOOD. CHRISTIAN I RESIDED FORTUNE MISTLETOE STREET IN THE CITY OF PETERSBURG. AND I COME TONIGHT TO STAND WITH MY FELLOW CITIZENS IN BERKELEY MANNER. NOW TO SHOW YOU HOW LONG LIKE THEY SAY BERKLEY MANOR HAS BEEN A VERY NICE NEIGHBORHOOD. I WAS IN SIXTH GRADE FOR JINYA AVENUE. MR ARNOLD. MR PAM, IF YOU TWO WERE BORN, Y'ALL WERE KIDS THERE. AND I USED TO BRIBE MY BIKE OUT THERE BECAUSE SOME OF MY CLASSMATES LIVED OUT THERE. AND THAT WAS A NEIGHBORHOOD WHEREBY YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO TALK ABOUT IT

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HOW DARE YOU ALL COME OVER HERE AND DISTURBED. THERE'S SO I SAY THAT TO SAY THIS MR. WILSON SMITH ALWAYS SAID WITHOUT YOU THERE IS NO PETERSBURG AND THAT'S ALL OF US. I'M STANDING BECAUSE WE'RE BUSINESSES SHOULD BE A LOT OF TIME. THIS COUNCIL HAS DISCOURAGED THEM FROM SETTING UP NOW WHERE THEY SHOULD NOT BE. YOU ALL GIVE THEM A GREEN LIGHT TO SET UP. AND THAT'S NOT RIGHT. UNLIKE MY NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE EVEN SOME OF OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS DON'T EVEN ADVOCATE FOR US WITH THE MESS WE HAVE. I DON'T WANT TO SEE MY NEIGHBORS IN BERKELEY MAN ARE GOING THROUGH HEAVEN. THOSE CONVENIENCE STORES WITH THE SHOOTINGS AND EVERYTHING ELSE AND I HEARD OR EVEN A BURGER KING. AND IF THAT BOURBON KING IS LIKE THE ONE ON CREATED ROAD THEY NEED TO CLOSE DOWN HOOD STORE DOWN ANYWAY. PLEASE GIVE MY GIVE MY NEIGHBORS IN BERKELEY MAN A DEBT MUCH RESPECT TO LET THEM KEEP THEM PEACE AND DIGNITY THAT THEY HAVE WORKED SO HARD TO ACHIEVE. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. YES, MA'AM. I DON'T KNOW HOW TO FOLLOW UP BEHIND HIM. MY NAME IS SHERICKA JOINS. I AM A NEW RESIDENT AT BERKELEY ESTATES. I'M AT 3 91 CHANTICLEER DRIVE.

UM AND LIKE MY NEIGHBORS I TO HEAR AND OPPOSITION OF THE REZONING. I RECENTLY MOVED HERE FROM THE WEST END OF RICHMOND. IT IS BOOMING. THERE ARE A LOT OF RESTAURANTS. THERE ARE A LOT OF BUSINESSES, UM I LOOKED ALL OVER RICHMOND, PETERSBURG CHESTERFIELD FELL IN LOVE WITH, UM, THE AREA OF BERKLEY MANOR AND BERKELEY ESTATES AND SPEAKING TO FRIENDS THAT I HAD IN THIS AREA, THEY SAID. THAT'S ONE OF THE LAST SAFE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WE HAVE HERE.

I AM A TEACHER. MY MATE IS RETIRED MILITARY WE HAVE A SIX YEAR OLD. OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS EXTREMELY SAFE. I HAVE NO WORRIES ABOUT MY SON PLAYING IN THE FRONT YARD. THE SIDE THE BACK. WE WALK IN THE MORNING. WE WALK IN THE EVENING. I CAN GO TO BED AND SLEEP COMFORTABLY KNOWING THAT YOU KNOW MY NEIGHBORS HAVE MY BACK. WHEN I THINK ABOUT NEW CONSTRUCTION OR REZONING AND THE RESTAURANT I THINK ABOUT THE SAFETY AND SECURITY THAT I DO HAVE NO LONGER HAVING EVEN THINKING ABOUT THE PART THAT I SOMETIMES TAKE MY SON TO WITH. TRANSIENT UM, POPULATIONS OR COMMUNITIES. YOU HAVE PEOPLE THAT MAY USE THE PART FOR ANYTHING OTHER THAN WHAT THEY SHOULD BE USING IT FOR. SO TONIGHT I ASK THAT YOU GUYS, UM DO NOT PROCEED WITH THE REZONING. THANK YOU. RIGHT SEEING NO OTHER HANDS. PROBABLY HEARING THIS CLOSE COUNCILMAN HERE. YES UM, I WANT TO THANK ALL THE CITIZENS THAT CAME OUT. TODAY. AS FAR AS ME BEING YOUR COUNCIL PERSON FOR THE LAST SIX OR SEVEN YEARS. I'M GOING TO MISS YOU ALL. AS YOU ALL KNOW THAT BERKELEY MANNER HAS BEEN IN NEXT, UH TOWARDS WARD ONE, BUT I'M PRETTY SURE WHOEVER WINS THAT RACE YOU'LL BE IN GOOD HANDS. THANK YOU ALL FOR ALL THAT YOU DO. THIS WILL SHOWS. I WISH WE HAD MORE OF THIS AND MORE OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. I'VE BEEN TO YOUR YOUR YOUR YOUR YOUR MEETINGS. MR GANGS HOUSE A FEW TIMES AND WHAT HAVE YOU AND WE'VE STOPPED SOFT TOGETHER A LOT OF PROBLEMS. UH, IN BURGLAR , MAN. I AM BROOKLYN MINUS STATE . AND WHAT HAVE YOU ALWAYS A PHONE CALL AWAY? THIS COUNCIL HAS WORKED HARD WITH ME TO DO CERTAIN THINGS FOR YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD. AND WHAT HAVE YOU SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I LIKE TO MAKE AH, THE MOTION THAT WE DENY THE ORDINANCE APPROVING THE AMENDMENT. AH FOR THIS LOCATION . AH THE REZONING 601607. 13 6

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SECOND. MADAM CLERK. YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. MR PARAM, MAY I MEAN, APPARENTLY, I MAKE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS. THANK YOU UNDER THE UMBRELLA OF DISCUSSION. UM. I WAS IMPRESSED BY THE SPEAKERS TONIGHT AND I APPRECIATE THAT THEY TOOK THE EFFORT TO COME OUT. AND SHARE WITH COUNSEL. THEIR LIVES AND THEIR WORLD. IT MEANS A LOT, AND IT MAKES OUR DECISIONS. UM A LOT EASIER, I THINK NEIGHBORHOODS ARE OUR LIFE. BLOOD'S. AND I'M A GREAT BELIEVER IN PROTECTING OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. AND THE THIRD POINT AS WAS POINTED OUT BY SEVERAL OF THE SPEAKERS. WHAT'S THE MATH? 14 YEARS AGO? SOMETHING LIKE THAT. A DEAL WAS STRUCK. A COMPROMISE WAS REACHED. AND NOW ONE OF THE PARTIES TO THAT. DEAL. WANTS TO GO BACK ON THE DEAL. THIS IS A PATTERN THAT THIS COUNCIL SEES TOO OFTEN. AND WE'RE GOING TO SEE IT AGAIN. IN A PUBLIC HEARING. UM, NEXT MONTH. WHEN HARRISON CREEK COMES BEFORE US A DEAL WAS STRUCK BACK IN 2008.

ALLOWING AQUA APARTMENTS TO BE BUILT, PROVIDED THAT THE FRONTAGE ALONG 4 60. WOULD BE COMMERCIAL. AND NOW 14 YEARS LATER. YOU WANT TO CHANGE THAT? AND CONVERT THAT COMMERCIAL AREA. INTO THIS TIME RESIDENTIAY OUR DEALS. IN ANY EVENT. PLEASED TO BE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION.

THAT'S BEFORE US AND I WILL CERTAINLY VOTE. TO SUPPORT THE MOTION. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

THANKS, MADAM CLERK. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. REMEMBER KUPFERBERG COUNCIL MEMBER WILSON SMITH, I COUNCIL MEMBER MYERS COUNCIL MEMBER WESTBROOK. REMEMBER HERE HI SMITH, LI HAI PERM I PASSED.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU AGAIN BERKLEY MANOR FOR COMING OUT. MR MAYOR. OKAY? UM I GUESS I CAN ADDRESS THIS TO THE CITY ATTORNEY. OKAY HOW DO WE GET AROUND? IS IT IN A WAY THAT WE CAN YOU KNOW THESE THINGS COME UP EVERY SO MANY. YEARS HOW DO WE DEAL WITH THIS? BECAUSE I'M PRETTY SURE IF THEY COME BACK IN EIGHT YEARS, THEY THEY'RE NOT GONNA WANT IT. TO COME BACK IN SIX YEARS OR 10 YEARS. SO HOW DO WE GET AROUND? WHAT YOU KNOW, CAME BACK IN 2008. HOW DO WE GET AROUND? WILL KEEP THINGS LIKE THIS CAN DO WE HAVE ANY CONTROL OVER THERE? I THINK COUNCIL DID THAT TONIGHT, UNANIMOUSLY DENYING AN APPLICATION TO AMEND THAT I DON'T THINK WE CAN STOP THEM FROM SUBMITTING THE APPLICATION AND RUNNING IT THROUGH THE PROCESS, BUT I THINK IF THEY GET THE MESSAGE THAT COUNSELED DEPENDS ON DEVELOPERS TO STAND BY THEIR DEALS, AND YOU'RE NOT GONNA APPROVE IT AND UNLESS THEY'RE SEVERE, EXIGENT CIRCUMSTANCES YOU'LL START GETTING THESE APPLICATIONS. BUT, YES, I AGREE. IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO CONTINUE TO BE IN FRONT OF COUNSEL. AND AS LONG AS YOU TAKE A STRONG STANCE, YOU'LL DISCOURAGE THAT TYPE OF APPLICATION IN THE FUTURE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. PRESIDENTS. WE APPRECIATE YOU ALL RIGHT? NEXT WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEMS SEE A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION ORDINANCE APPROVING A PETITION TO REZONE THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 9 70 WINFIELD ROAD FROM MM. FIVE. ARE FIVE MULTIPLE DWELLING DISTRICT UM ONE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT TO PERMIT THE USE OF SOLAR ELECTRIC GENERATING FACILITY. MR TABLE. HONORABLE MAYOR, VICE MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL. THE PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVED THE RESOLUTION DURING THE SEPTEMBER 1ST 2022 MEETING TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF AN AMENDMENT TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. FUTURE LAND USE FOR THE FOR THIS AREA. TO DESIGNATE THE FUTURE LAND USES LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, AND THEY ALSO RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THE PETITION TO DESIGNATE TO DESIGNATE THE PROPERTY. LOCATED AT 9 70. WINFIELD ROAD AS M ONE LINE INDUSTRIAL AH! HMM. STAFF RECOMMENDS COUNCIL APPROVAL OF THE PETITION. AND PREVIOUSLY THE

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FOR A SIMILAR PROJECT BY A ANOTHER PETITIONER. UM. STAFF WOULD ALSO REGULARLY RECOMMEND, UM THAT. IF THE ITEM IS APPROVED THAT THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS BE ALSO APPROVED WITH THE ORDINANCE. AH ONE BEING PRIOR TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE SITE. A SITE PLAN MUST BE APPROVED.

NUMBER TWO. THE SITE MUST MEET THE ALL OF THE PUBLIC WORKS. DEPARTMENT REQUIREMENTS WITH RESPECT TO ACCESS TO THE SITE. THE PROPERTY SHALL BE MAINTAINED IN A NEAT AND ORDERLY MANNER SO THAT THE VISUAL APPEARANCE FROM THE INTERSTATE AND ADJACENT PROPERTIES IS ACCEPTABLE TO CITY OFFICIALS. AH MAINTAIN EXISTING VEGETATION TO BUFFER THE USE FROM ADJACENT PROPERTY. THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW TEAM. OUTSIDE OF ANY COMPLAINTS. SHALL HAVE THE RIGHT TO CONDUCT INSPECTIONS OF THE PROPERTY AT ANY TIME TO VERIFY COMPLIANCE WITH THE CONDITIONS. ANY NOISE GENERATED BY THE ACTIVITY ON THE SITE. SHALL WE LIMITED TO THE MAXIMUM DECIBEL LEVEL ALLOWED BY THE CITY? ALL PANELS, EQUIPMENT AND OR STRUCTURES ASSOCIATED WITH THE UTILITY. USE SHALL BE REMOVED FROM THE PROPERTY WITHIN 120 DAYS UPON ABANDONMENT OF THE USE. ALL SOLAR PANELS ARE TO BE DISPOSED OF, ACCORDING TO THE LAWS GOVERNING THE STATE OF THE COMMONWEALTH OF VIRGINIA. AND ALL THIS POSITION. ALL DISPOSAL COSTS SHALL BE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE OWNER AND THAT THE CITY COUNCIL HAS THE AUTHORITY TO REVOKE, ESPECIALLY USE PERMIT IF THE PROPERTY OWNER VIOLATES THE CONDITIONS OF THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT. OKAY THIS IS THE PUBLIC HEARING. FOR THE REASON OF THE PROPERTY AT 9 70 WINFIELD ROAD FROM OUR FIVE MULTIPLE DWELLING TO M ONE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT OR FROM USE OF THE SOLAR ELECTRIC GENERATING FACILITY. YES, MA'AM. IT'S WET OUT. HELLO I'M SARAH MELISSA WOULD YAK 22 CENTER HILL COURT. PETERSBURG VIRGINIA. UM I AM GLAD TO SEE THAT THE CITY IS LOOKING AT SOLAR POWER. UM HOWEVER, I DO NOT THINK THAT THIS IS A GOOD USE OF OPEN GREEN SPACE. UM IT IS RIGHT NEXT TO, UM UH MOBILE HOME. AREA THESE TREES DO PROVIDE COOLING EFFECTS. I CAN SHOW YOU MY HEAT MAP IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE EFFECTS THAT CUTTING DOWN THIS VEGETATION WILL HAVE, UM AND PUTTING UP SOLAR PANELS IN THIS AREA. REMOVING SOME OF THIS VEGETATION WILL ALSO, UM THE TO SOME PROBABLE STORMWATER.

CONDITIONS THIS PROPERTY IS PRETTY CLOSE TO POUR CREEK. UM AND REMOVING VEGETATION FROM THAT WILL SLOW DOWN. UM, INFILTRATION. INTO THAT AREA. UM I'M NOT SURE IF IT WILL LEAD TO FLOODING, UH, FOR THOSE MOBILE HOME UNITS, BUT THIS AGAIN IS LOCATING INDUSTRIAL. UM.

FACILITIES IN AN AREA THAT IS LOWER INCOME. UM. AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO SUPPORT THAT COMMUNITY BY SUGGESTING INSTEAD THAT THIS CITY ENCOURAGED THE DEVELOPER TO PUT SOME OF THESE SOLAR PANELS ON TOP OF PLACES LIKE A WALMART. OR TO BUILD A SOLAR SHIELD FOR THEIR PARKING LOT. THAT WOULD NOT ONLY COOL THE PARKING LOT PROVIDE A NICE, COOL PLACE TO PARK YOUR CAR BUT WILL PROVIDE MUCH MORE ENERGY, UM, FOR THE STATE. UM THEN THIS PROJECT AND AS IT IS STATED, IT SAID IT 25 TO 35 YEARS OF TREES. UM INSTEAD OF 20 TO 25 YEARS OF SOLAR PANELS THAT WOULD THEN BE REMOVED TO LEAVE BARE SOIL AGAIN . THAT WOULD NO LONGER HAVE TREES AND WE WOULD BE BACK AT SQUARE ONE. SO I WOULD REALLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO MAINTAIN THE TREE COVER HERE, UM, SO THAT THOSE TREES CAN CONTINUE TO ABSORB STORM WATER. THEY CAN CONTINUE TO COOL THE AREA AND THEY CAN CONTINUE TO REDUCE THE POLLUTION FOR, UM, THIS THE NEIGHBORS TO THIS PROPERTY, THEY ALREADY HAVE TO DEAL WITH MANY LARGE ROADS, AND I WOULD HATE FOR THEM TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH

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GRADING PLANS. I INTEND TO ACTUALLY STABILIZE THE LAND BELOW THE SYSTEM WITH A POLLINATOR SEED MIX TO PROMOTE, UM A B POLLINATOR FRIENDLY ENVIRONMENT. THE USE CASE OF THIS LAND AT THE MOMENT IS LISTED AS OUR ONE. WE'RE PETITIONING FOR A SORRY. AN M ONE REZONING CLASSIFICATION. THE ON THE EASTERN SIDE OF THE PROPERTY. THERE IS ACTUALLY A RAILROAD AND ON THE WESTERN SIDE, THERE'S A PIPELINE. UM, THERE'S LIMITED USE CASES ASSOCIATED WITH THIS LAND AND FARTHER TO THE WEST IS THE I 95 CORRIDOR. UM ARE NORTHERNER BUTTER ACTUALLY IS THE TOWN OF PETERSBURG IN WHICH WE LOOK TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS AND PROVIDE ALL THE NECESSARY ACCESS AND IMPROVEMENTS THAT LAND FOR A JOINT USE CASE? UM I'M HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE IN REGARDS TO THE PEDIGREE OF THE SYSTEM OR UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO PROPOSE HERE. OKAY? THANK YOU. NEXT TO THE OTHER HANDS. YES, MA'AM. HELLO AGAIN. UM THIS CORITA HASKINS 35 11. FRANCE STILL NEED TO DO THAT AGAIN, RIGHT? OKAY 35 11 FRANCIS STREET, AND SO, UM, I MENTIONED EARLIER. I'M A TEACHER, BUT I'M ALSO A SCIENCE TEACHER. UM AND SOMETHING IN SCIENCE AND WHEN WE LEARN ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT AND EVEN HEALTH CONDITIONS THAT COME FROM THINGS THAT WERE EXPOSED TO SIMPLY JUST BECAUSE OF LAND. UM I HAVE A VESTED INTEREST IN IN THAT AND I TALKED TO MY STUDENTS ABOUT POLLUTION, AND ESPECIALLY WITH I THINK HER NAME WAS MISS WITTY JACK PROFESSOR WITTY JACK HER CONCERNS ABOUT TREE COVER OUR CONCERNS ABOUT THE THINGS THAT WILL BE LEFT BEHIND. AND I WILL SAY THIS AREA IS NOT THAT FAR FROM BERKELEY BANNER. IF YOU ALL ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE HARDYS , UM SO I WILL VOTE AGAINST US APPROVING THIS. I'M SURE THERE'S SOME OTHER LOCATIONS. THAT WOULD, UM. NOT DESTROY MORE VEGETATION. UM IN OUR COMMUNITIES AND TREES ARE BEAUTIFUL AND WE NEED THEM HERE AND PETERSBURG. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. SAYING NO OTHER HANDS THIS PUBLIC HEARING THIS CLOSE NEXT, UM, DISCUSSION. UM, COUNCILMAN CUT BRUSH. I MOVE THAT WE ADOPT THE WE ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION. AND ADOPT THE ORDINANCE AS PROPOSED. MOTION FROM COUNSELING CUFF THERE.

SAYING. NO. UH NO LIGHTS. THE MOTION DIES FROM LACK OF A SECOND. NEXT, UM COUNCILOR WILSON SMITH. YES, SIR. AND I KNOW THIS IS OVER AND IN YOUR AREA. THESE HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR UM, I DON'T HAVE ANY COMMENTS. BUT I DID LISTEN TO WHAT? UM THE PROFESSOR FROM VIRGINIA STATE SAID, AND THAT DOES COST CONCERN. RATHER THAN US, JUST, UM DENY THIS FOR LACK OF A SECOND. PERHAPS WE COULD TABLE IT AND STUDY SOME MORE OF WHAT VIRGINIA STATE HAS EXPLAINED TO US AND THE VERY CAPABLE SCIENCE TEACHER HAS EXPLAINED TO US AND KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IT IS AND COME

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COUNCILMAN COVER SECOND. THE MOTION MOTION SECOND IN DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION. YES, UH, COVER WE CAN'T PROTECT EVERY TREE IN PETERSBURG. I MEAN, PEOPLE WHO OWN LAND. TO BE ABLE TO CUT DOWN THE TREE IF THEY WANT TO CUT DOWN THE TREE. AH! AND ALSO SOLAR POWER MAKES ITS OWN CONTRIBUTION TO MAKING OUR PLANET. UH HEALTHIER AND SAFER. AH PLACE. SO, UM. I DON'T KNOW.

I WAS STUNNED, BUT I COULDN'T GET A SECOND. BUT IN ANY EVENT AH! I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE. WE I THINK WE'RE OVERREACHING IF WE'RE TRYING TO RE ZONE IN ORDER TO PROTECT TREES JUST ON A WHOLESALE BASIS BECAUSE WE LOVE TREES. HERE WE HAVE A MOTION IN THE SECOND TABLE. THERE'S NO MORE DISCUSSION. MADAM CLERK. PLEASE CALL THE ROAD. SOMEONE BECAUSE BERG. COUNCIL MEMBER WILSON SMITH, I COUNCIL MEMBER MYERS COUNCIL MEMBER WESTBROOK REMEMBER HILL, MARY SMITH, LI HAI MAYOR PERM. EMOTIONS PAST THE TABLE. NEXT IS ITEM D, WHICH IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION OF LAWRENCE. APPROVING THAT PETITION FOR SPECIAL USE PERMIT. PARAM YEAH, I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT, BUT WHEN IS THE IS THIS JUST GENERALLY TABLED? IS IT TABLED TO OUR NEXT BUSINESS MEETING? IS THERE ANY. WHEN WILL THIS COME BACK? LET'S PUT ON THE RECORD. IT WILL BE TABLED TO OUR NEXT BUSINESS MEETING. THANK YOU. NOVEMBER 15TH. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, AND SO WOULD BE ITEM D AS WELL. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S. TABLE, BOTH OF THOSE TILL THE 15TH. MAKE A FISH MOST FOR ME, COUNSELOR WESTBROOK . YES I'D LIKE TO MAKE AN OFFICIAL MOTION TO TABLE ITEM D . THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE ORDINANCE FOR THE PETITION FOR SPECIAL USE FOR OPERATING SOLO ELECTRICAL AT 97. WINFIELD WROTE COUNSELOR MYERS. RIGHT, MADAM CLERK. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. AND MAYOR JUST FOR THE RECORD IT'S FOR. IT'S THE INTENTION OF COUNCIL THAT THE PUBLIC HEARING BE HELD WHEN IT'S BROUGHT BACK OFF THE TABLE SINCE THE PUBLIC HEARING TODAY WAS AN OPEN AND CLOSED ON BOTH ITEMS CORRECT. OKAY? ALL RIGHT. THE MOTION OF THE SECOND AT THIS TIME, ADAM CORRECTLY PLEASE CALL THE ROOM. COUNCILOR BECAUSE BERG. COUNCIL MEMBER WILSON SMITH. I REMEMBER MYERS. COUNCIL MEMBER WESTBROOK. REMEMBER HILL. BIAS. MARY SMITH LEE MAYOR PERN. THANKS. MOTIONS PASSED THE TABLE AND JUST FOR THE RECORD, WE DID DO THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE FIRST ITEM, WHICH WAS ITEM EIGHT C. SO WHEN WE COME BACK, WE WOULD HAVE TO DO IT FOR ONLY ITEM EIGHT D TO DO THE PUBLIC AREA. THANK YOU, UM, NEXT MOVE ON THE ITEM E, A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION ORDINANCE APPROVING A PETITION FOR SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO ESTABLISH AND OPERATE A STANDALONE VEHICLE REPAIR SHOP AT THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 9 44 EAST WEST STREET, MR TABOR. HONORABLE MAYOR, VICE MAYOR AND MEMBER MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL. THE PLANNING COMMISSION VOTED DURING THE SEPTEMBER 1ST 2022 MEETING TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF A SPECIAL USE PERMIT. FOR A STANDALONE VEHICLE REPAIR USE AT 9 44 EAST WITH STREET. ALRIGHT SO OPEN UP THE FLOOR NOW FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING. FOR CONSIDERATION OF THE ORDINANCE OF THE PETITION FOR SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR A STANDALONE VEHICLE REPAIR SHOP AT THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 9 44 STREET. ALRIGHT, SEEING NO HANDS PROBABLY HEARING HIS CLOTHES.

NEXT DISCUSSION, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL COUNCILWOMAN WILSON SMITH I LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT CITY COUNCIL ADOPT THE ORDINANCE APPROVING THAT PETITION FOR SPECIAL USE PERMIT.

AT 9 44 IS WITH STREET COUNCILMAN WESTBROOK SECOND. ALRIGHT PRESENTED DISCUSSION FROM MEMBERS OF COUNCIL IF NOT MADAM CLERK. CAN YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? REMEMBER KOZBERG REMEMBER WILSON SMITH? I REMEMBER MYERS. COUNCIL MEMBER WESTBROOK I REMEMBER HILL. VICE MAYOR SMITH FLEE. MELBOURNE BADC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION OF ORDINANCE APPROVING A PETITION FOR A SPECIAL USE BE MADE TO CONSTRUCT A TELECOMMUNICATIONS MONOPOLY TOWER ON THE PROPERTY

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THE TOWER REMOVAL BOND. I'M NOT SURE ANYBODY EVER READ THIS BEFORE IT CAME BEFORE COUNCIL.

UM. BUT PARAGRAPH TWO, SAYS. THE SURETY MAY CANCEL THIS BOND AT ANY TIME. BY GIVING 30 DAYS.

NOTICE. TO THE CITY. I'VE NEVER SEEN A BOND THAT JUST DISAPPEARS ON 30 DAYS NOTICE. AND YET THAT'S WHAT THIS PROPOSES IN THAT. RAISES A QUESTION IN MY MIND. I'M NOT SURE THAT I WANT TO DO BUSINESS WITH COMPANY THAT IS PROPOSING THIS VANISHING BOND. DO YOU THINK THAT NO ONE IS GOING TO READ THIS PAPERWORK ? I'M SORRY FOR THAT, UH, INCLUSION, MR. COUNCILMAN UM, MR TABOR BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION EARLIER TONIGHT, AND ACTUALLY, I REVIEWED THE PREVIOUS APPROVAL THAT THIS COUNCIL HAD MADE REGARDING A CELL TOWER BACK IN 2020. AND I'M SURE MR WILLIAMS CAN ATTEST TO THIS IS THAT THE ACTUAL BOND REQUIREMENT IS AN ACTUAL VIOLATION OF VIRGINIA CODE SECTION. UH, NO. WE THOUGHT THAT ONE BEFORE AND YOU'RE WRONG. OKAY WELL, THE PREVIOUS BOND PREVIOUS VIOLENCE REMOVED AND THE PROJECT WAS APPROVED. THAT'S NOT MY RECOLLECTION. UH, I'M READING IT RIGHT HERE OFF OF THE INFORMATION, MR TIBOR PROVIDING I CAN READ THE SECTION AFTER YOU. I KNOW THIS SECTION AND I KNOW THE EXCEPTIONS TO THE SECTION. IN THE EXCEPTIONS TO THE SECTION CONTROLLED THE LAST TIME THIS CAME, AND A FAST TALKING LAWYER CAME AND TRIED TO TELL US OTHERWISE. OKAY. I REMEMBER THAT. SO THE VIRGINIA CODE SECTION DOESN'T APPLY TO THIS CASE TO THIS PARTICULAR THIS PARTICULAR BOND REQUIREMENT. THE LANGUAGE OF THE VIRGINIA CODE SECTION DOES NOT APPLY. OKAY AND FOR WHAT REASON ? ALRIGHT, MR WILLIAMS. YOU WANT TO AND ALL THAT. I RECOMMEND THAT THE COUNCILMAN CUTHBERT MOVE ONTO ANY OTHER ITEMS HE MAY HAVE WITH THE PROPOSAL, UH, OUTSIDE OF THE BOND DISCUSSION. ALL RIGHT. UM. I HAVE DRAFTED A MOTION TO DENY THIS AH! HELLO. ORDINANCE. AND I'D LIKE TO GO OVER THE ITEMS. ABOUT. ONE UH HUH. MOTION WILL READ MOVED TO DENY THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT REQUEST. BASED UPON THE FOLLOWING REASONS. ONE THE LOCATION, HEIGHT AND DESIGN OF THE FACILITY. OR OF SIGNIFICANT CONCERN. AS DEPICTED IN THE PHOTOGRAPHS ON PAGES 2 77 THROUGH 2 79. COUNCIL'S AGENDA

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AND THEN, UM, THIRD OF LAST COMMENT YOU MADE OR THE BOND REQUIREMENTS AND I JUST LIKE TO READ INTO THE RECORD, YOU MENTIONED THAT, UM THE BOND WAS INSUFFICIENT. NO 30 DAY CANCELATION. I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. BUT AT THE SAME TIME PURSUANT TO VIRGINIA CODE SECTION I CAN READ IT RIGHT HERE. 15.2. BEST 2316.4. SEMI COLON TWO. SAYS NO. LOCALITY LOCALITY SHALL NOT. IMPOSED SURELY REQUIREMENTS, INCLUDING BONDS, ESCROW DEPOSITS, LETTERS OF CREDIT OR ANY OTHER TYPES OF FINANCIAL SURETY TO ENSURE THAT ABANDONED OR UNUSED WIRELESS FACILITIES CAN BE REMOVED UNLESS THE LOCALITY IMPOSES SIMILAR REQUIREMENTS AND OTHER PERMITS FOR OTHER TYPES OF COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT. UNLESS UNLESS UNLESS AND IF THERE IS IF THERE IS EVIDENCE THAT THE CITY HAS IMPOSED OUR REQUIREMENTS FOR A BOND AND OTHER STRUCTURES OF THIS NATURE WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO COMPLY WITH THAT. BUT AS I MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY BACK IN 2020 THIS VERY CITY SAID THAT IT WASN'T NECESSARY FOR THE CELL TOWERS LOCATED. UM I CAN READ OFF THOSE REQUIREMENTS, BUT I DON'T HAVE IT RIGHT HERE ON MY

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I REMEMBER THE VOTE IN 2020, AND WE WENT THROUGH IT WITH SOME SLICK LAWYERS FROM RICHMOND, AND WE CAME TO THIS CONCLUSION THAT WE COULD REQUIRE A BOND. OKAY, VERY WELL. THAT'S THEIR CONDITIONS OF THIS. THIS BOARD THIS COUNCIL THAT'S FINE. UM AND THAT'S BECAUSE THE UNLESS PROVISION APPLIED UNLESS PROVISION UNLESS WE REQUIRE THAT OF ALL TOWERS, AND WE DO VERY WELL. MR MAYOR, COUNCILMAN. COUNCILMAN BUSINESSMAN APOLOGIZE UM. I THINK IN LIGHT OF THE QUESTIONS FROM AND CONCERNS FROM MR CUTHBERT AND APPARENTLY, WE'RE MISSING SOME INFORMATION FROM 2020 THAT IT WOULD PROBABLY BE BETTER. WELL, I'D LIKE TO SUGGEST TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE TABLE THIS AND WE COME BACK WITH THESE PARTICULAR QUESTIONS ANSWERED. AND WITH THE MINUTES OF THE 2020 MEETING FOR CLARITY AND THEN ADDRESS IT AT THAT TIME ALRIGHT WITH MOTION AND TABLE.

COUNCILMAN HILL'S SECOND EMOTION , MR MAYOR, UM, JUST WANTED TO COMMENT THAT THAT OUR LAW PLACES TIME LIMITATIONS UPON THE TIME PERIOD WITHIN WHICH LOCALITIES HAVE TO PROCESS APPLICATIONS FOR TELECOMMUNICATIONS SERVICES. FOR CO LOCATIONS. IT'S 90 DAYS FROM THE DATE OF APPLICATION FOR NEW SERVICES IS 150 DAYS. I DON'T KNOW HOW DEEP THIS IS IN SINCE THE DATE OF APPLICATION, PERHAPS MR TABOR CAN ADVISE US. BUT IF COUNCIL DOES DECIDE THAT TABLE YOU NEED TO MAKE SURE YOU BRING IT BACK AND CONCLUDE THIS MATTER ONE WAY OR THE OTHER WITHIN THAT TIME PERIOD, OTHERWISE IT'S TYPICALLY DEEMED TO BE APPROVED. OKAY? SO THIS MOTION TO TABLE COUNSELOR WILL SUSPEND FOR THE NEXT BUSINESS MEETING. THAT WOULD BE THE SECOND MEETING IN NOVEMBER. DEPENDS ON THE DATE THAT MR TABLE HAS FOR THE APPLICATION. ARE WE WITHIN THAT TIME FRAME, MR. TABLE.

ONE OF THE LETTERS IS DATED AUGUST 23RD 2022. SO WE KNOW THAT THE APPLICATION HAD TO HAVE APPEARED BEFORE THEN. RIGHT MR. EXCUSE ME. I'M SORRY, MR TAYLOR ON THIS STAFF REPORT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS A DATE. DELIVERY TO PLANNING DEPARTMENT ON JUNE. 30TH OF 2022 IS THAT THE DAY THE APPLICATION WAS SUBMITTED. THAT IS CORRECT. YOU SAY JUNE 30TH. YES. JULY, AUGUST , SEPTEMBER OCTOBER NO MEMBER. WE'RE CUTTING IT CLOSE. FOR NOVEMBER 30TH SO WE WOULD BE THE MEETINGS NOVEMBER 15TH. SO YOU HAVE SO WE WOULD BE IN COMPLIANCE. SO WE DID THE SECOND MEETING IN NOVEMBER. NOVEMBER, 15TH CORRECT. WE ALL ON THE SAME COURT. MR CITY ATTORNEY? YES.

ALRIGHT IF THAT'S THE TIME PERIOD. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE COUNCIL KNOWS YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DISPOSE OF IT ON THAT DAY EITHER VOTED UP OR DOWN, SO ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION IN THE SECOND. THE TABLE TILL NOVEMBER. 15TH. MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. COUNCIL MEMBER KUPFERBERG. COUNCIL MEMBER WILSON SMITH, I COUNCIL MEMBER MYERS COUNCIL MEMBER WESTBROOK. COUNCIL MEMBER HILL SMITH LEE HIGH MALE PERM BAD. THANK YOU THE TABLE. I'M SORRY.

ALL RIGHT. NEXT TO MOVE ON TO ITEM EIGHT G. A PUBLIC HEARING ON OCTOBER 18TH FOR THE CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER ENDED TO A PURCHASE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF PETERSBURG AND BOWLING BROOK PROPERTIES LLC. AND WE'RE THE G AND KAREN

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THESE ARE ALL THE PARCELS IF YOU'RE COMING DOWN ADAMS STREET. TO THE WEST. 48 EAST BANK. 20 EAST BANK. I WON'T READ YOU, THE LESS YOU HAVE THE LIST IN FRONT OF YOU. AS FAR AS BEING ABLE TO DEVELOP THESE PROPERTIES, I THINK IN THE BACKGROUND WE LISTED OUT NOT ONLY WERE WE ABLE TO DO BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT. NO WE'VE GOT THE INITIATIVES THAT HAVE COME FORTH FROM RICHMOND WITH GROCERY STORES. WE'RE ALREADY GETTING INQUIRIES. MANY INQUIRIES. FROM OUTSIDE DEVELOPERS COMING INTO PETERSBURG. AND THIS WOULD JUST BE A WATERSHED FOR US TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THIS PROPERTY TO DEVELOP IT AND TO ACT AS WE HOW DO YOU SAY DEVELOP? OUR STREETSCAPE.

THIS IS I MEAN, THE ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO CONTROL OUR OWN DESTINY. I THINK THIS WOULD BE A GREAT PICK UP. I CAN SEE US THE INVESTMENT THAT YOU WOULD MAKE ON THIS PURCHASE PRICE.

HOPEFULLY WITHIN 18 MONTHS, WE CAN HAVE SOMETHING DEVELOPMENT IN THE GROUND AND GET YOU A GOOD RETURN ON INVESTMENT. OUR GOALS WILL BE AGGRESSIVE. BRING THINGS TO YOU. ALSO IN THIS CASE, I DON'T HAVE THE WATER CONCERNS BECAUSE IT'S NOT IN THE PO CREEK ABOUT THAT. UH REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE DEVELOPER IS HERE, MR SPECTER. HE'D SAY THAT HE DID NOT HAVE ANY COMMENTS PRIOR TO THE PUBLIC HEARING BUT WOULD BE AVAILABLE IF WE HAVE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, SO THANK YOU, MR MAYOR. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. BUT THIS IS THE PUBLIC HEARING. FOR ENTERING INTO A PURCHASE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF PETERSBURG AND BOWLING BROOK PROPERTIES, LFC AND WHERE THE G AND KAREN K. BECKER, THE THIRD THAT'S RUDOLPH. THANK YOU, UM BARB RUDOLPH 16 75 MOUNT VERNON STREET. UM THE KIND OF, UM, EMERGED THE THEME TONIGHT OF TABLING A LOT OF THESE ITEMS. I THINK THIS IS ANOTHER ONE. YOU SHOULD CONSIDER TABLING. UM BECAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH INFORMATION THAT I FEEL LIKE HAS NOT BEEN PRESENTED AND WASN'T IT AT THE LAST MEETING THAT THERE WAS A SPECIAL MEETING WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN CITY COUNCIL. THAT WAS WHERE THE PLANNING ARE MEAN. UH, CONSULTANT WAS GOING TO DO A STRATEGIC PLAN FOR THE CITY AND TALK ABOUT LAND USE AND DEVELOPMENT. AND ALL KIND OF THINGS LIKE THAT, AND IT SEEMS LIKE THIS SHOULD BE PART OF THAT KIND OF AN EFFORT RATHER THAN JUST PUT OUT HERE AS A WHAT MR MORE SAID, UM ON INVESTMENT AND AN ABILITY TO CONTROL OUR DESTINY. UM IT'S MAKES IT SOUND LIKE THIS IS SOME KIND OF HOT THING THAT HAS TO BE BOUGHT. THIS MONTH, THE LITTLE NEVER BE AVAILABLE AGAINST BUT UM I JUST DON'T KNOW HOW YOU CAN DECIDE SOMETHING. WHERE WE'RE NOT BEING TOLD HOW YOU'RE GOING TO COME UP WITH A $3.2 MILLION TO PURCHASE THESE PROPERTIES. YOU ALSO, UM AND I'M SORRY I DIDN'T GO BACK AND LOOK AT IT BECAUSE WHEN THIS FIRST APPEARED ON THE AGENDA I DID LOOK IT UP. COM TO SEE WHAT THE ASSESSED VALUES OF THESE PROPERTIES WERE. AND MY RECOLLECTION IS THEY WERE QUITE A BIT LESS THAN THE PURCHASE PRICE. SO WHEN PETERSBURG IS SELLING YOU ONLY REQUIRE PEOPLE TO PAY YOU 50% OF THE ASSESSED VALUE, BUT WHEN WE'RE BUYING WE'RE GOING TO PAY THE OWNERS MORE THAN TWICE AS MUCH AS THE ASSESSED VALUE BECAUSE I DO REMEMBER THAT MUCH. IT WAS MORE THAN TWICE THE ASSESSED VALUE. THESE ARE ALL KIND OF THINGS. I WISH THAT BEFORE YOU MAKE A DECISION. YOU WOULD BRING FORWARD AND PRESENT. I MEAN, I'M I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS DEVELOPERS HERE BUT IT'S JUST JUST HAS THIS SOUND OF WE GOTTA DO SOMETHING. BUT WE DON'T WANT TO SAY TOO MUCH ABOUT WHAT IT IS. WE'RE JUST GOING TO SPEND $3.2 MILLION LIKE WE ALWAYS HAVE. THINGS THAT COST FAR LESS THAN THAT, BUT WE CAN'T AFFORD AND A PACKAGE THAT DOESN'T SAY WHERE THAT MONEY IS COMING FROM . I DON'T THINK IT'S EVEN IN THAT BUDGET PLAN. THE BUDGET THAT'S GOING TO BE TALKED ABOUT IN A FEW MINUTES, I GUESS. SO, UM THE QUESTIONS ARE. HOW DOES THIS FIT WITH OVERALL STRATEGIC PLANNING EFFORT? WHAT'S THE SOURCE OF FUNDING TO BUY THE PROPERTY? WHAT'S THE OVERALL PLAN? I MEAN, IT SOUNDS LIKE GOOD TO SAY. IT'S PART OF PARTNERSHIP FOR PETERSBURG. BUT THAT'S KIND OF A LABEL. YOU COULD PUT ON ALL KINDS OF THINGS THAT YOU WANT TO DO. I JUST THINK THAT TABLE IN IT WOULD BE THE BEST COURSE. IN ORDER TO GET TO GET SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS ANSWERED AND TO HAVE, LIKE A

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THAT'S MORE THAN I GOT FROM LOOKING AT THE PACKAGE. SO YOU KNOW, THAT'S MAYBE ONE POINT THAT THERE'S SOME SOME SOMETHING TO COME FROM THIS, BUT, UM PLEASE PLEASE EXERCISE CAUTION WITH THIS. IT'S A LOT OF MONEY AND I'M IT MAY BE A GREAT THING, BUT A GREAT THING SHOULD YOU KNOW SHOULD HAVE A FULL DESCRIPTION OF WHY WHY IT IS AND HOW IT FITS IN THE BIGGER PICTURE PICTURE OF YOUR PLANS. THANK YOU. NEXT IN THE OTHER HANDS. YES, MISS WILLIAMS. SARAH MELISSA, WOULD HE ACT 22 CENTER HILL COURT. PETERSBURG VIRGINIA 2323. I WOULD LIKE TO ECHO MISS RUDOLPH'S, UM, COMMENTS. THIS IS A REALLY HUGE PURCHASED BY THE CITY. UM AND WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN THERE. UM I THINK THAT IT IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE INPUT FROM THE BUSINESSES FROM THE RESIDENTS. UM THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF GROWTH IN OLD TOWN AND I THINK THAT THIS COULD ACTUALLY BE A FANTASTIC OPPORTUNITY. TO REDUCE SOME OF THIS HEAT ISLAND EFFECT AND TO BUILD A CITY THAT IS RESILIENT IN TERMS OF STORMWATER IN TERMS OF HEAT IN TERMS OF ECONOMICS AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT. UM BUT I THINK THAT WE NEED TO HAVE INPUT FROM THE CITIZENS AND THEY NEED TO KNOW WHAT THEIR TAX DOLLARS ARE BEING SPENT ON IF THIS IS TAX DOLLARS, WHERE THE MONEY'S COMING FROM UM , AND THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME SERIOUS DISCUSSION. I REALLY DO THINK THAT IF WE DO THIS, RIGHT WE COULD DO SOME REALLY AMAZING THINGS IN OLD TOWN, BUT IT HAS TO BE DONE WITH EVERYBODY AT THE TABLE, AND IT CAN'T BE DONE QUICKLY AND IT WILL TAKE A LOT OF WORK. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. DR LEWIS. AGAIN FOR THE PUBLIC RECORD. DR KENNETH W. LEWIS 503 MISTLETOE ST WARD FIVE IN THIS CITY. I CONCUR WITH THE PREVIOUS TWO SPEAKERS INFORM THE RESIDENTS FIRST. LET US PROVIDE REASONABLE INPUT, THEN DECIDE. THAT WAY, WE WILL FEEL THAT OUR TAX DOLLARS ARE BEING ADEQUATELY SPENT AND CORRECTLY SPENT. IT IRRITATES ME THAT IT'S PUBLIC RECORD THAT THE CITY SOLD THE PROPERTY FOR $700,000 AND THEN BROUGHT IT BACK FOR 1.2 OR SO MILLION DOLLARS AND THEN BORROW TAX AND THEN GOT MY TAX DOLLARS TO TEAR DOWN A BUILDING THAT THE PRIVATE OWNER SHOULD HAVE TORN DOWN. AND SO I'M NOT VERY HAPPY ABOUT THAT , AND I TRUST THAT WE WILL DO THINGS IN A MORE ORDERLY AND JUST TRANSPARENT MANNER. THANK YOU. ARE YOU SEEING NO OTHER HANDS. THERE'S A PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED. NEXT IN THE DISCUSSION ROOMS, THE COUNCIL COUNSELING COVER BIRTH. I MOVE THAT WE ADOPT THE ORDINANCE AS PROPOSED. AND I'D LIKE TO SAY WHAT I THINK THIS IS A GIGANTIC OPPORTUNITY FOR PETERSBURG. I THINK WE NEED TO SEIZE THE MOMENT. AH! THAT'S KIND OF I REALIZE THAT'S A GENERAL. BUT THAT'S MY STRONG INSTINCT. SECOND ITEM. WE ARE UNDER A COURT ORDER. TWO. REPLACE THE GENERAL DISTRICT COURTHOUSE IN THE JUVENILE AND DOMESTIC RELATIONS QUARTER. AND ACQUISITION OF THIS PROPERTY FACILITATES THAT PROCESS. BECAUSE THIS PROPERTY BACKS RIGHT UP TO WHERE THE BACK END OF THE POLICE STATION, THE BACK END OF THE GENERAL DISTRICT COURT, THE BACK END OF THE JUVENILE AND DOMESTIC RELATIONS SCHOOL. I THINK OUR DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. MR. MOORE IS ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. THIS IS THIRD POINT WE NEED TO CONTROL OUR DESTINY. THOSE OF US WHO HAVE BEEN IN PETERSBURG. FOR YEARS FOR DECADES ARE SO USED TO

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MOTION FROM COUNCILOR CUPBOARD. COUNCILMAN HILL, SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN HILL DISCUSSION.

COUNCILMAN WILLIAM SMITH. QUESTION FOR MR MORE, PLEASE. WHAT IS THE TOTAL ASSESSED VALUE OF ALL THE PROPERTIES. YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. AS OF THE DATE THIS WAS PREPARED APPROXIMATELY $1.3 MILLION. THE ASKING PRICE IS ABOUT 2.48 OVER THE ASSESSED VALUE FOR ALL THE PROPERTIES TOGETHER, HIS MAN DO YOU KNOW THE. WHAT THE ORDINANCE OF THE LITERATURE SAYS WHEN WE ARE PURCHASING PROPERTY. UH UM. HOW MUCH WE CAN GO OVER OR EXACTLY WHAT DOES IT SAYS WHEN THE TEARY DECIDES TO PURCHASE PROPERTY FROM PEOPLE. I'VE NEVER SEEN AN ORDINANCE IN REGARDS TO THAT, MA'AM. I THINK IT'S I DON'T THINK THERE'S ONE EXISTING I'D HAVE THAT DEFERRED TO THE CITY ATTORNEY. WHILE THE EFFORT OF THE CITY SHOULD ALWAYS BE TO ACQUIRE THE PROPERTY AT ADD OR BELOW ITS FAIR MARKET VALUE. I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY LEGISLATION THAT SPECIFICALLY PROHIBITS US FROM PAYING MORE AS LONG AS THOSE REASONS ARE OBJECTIVELY JUSTIFIED AND I THINK, AS MANY COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE STATED FROM THE DIETS TODAY, THEY'VE IDENTIFIED THE JUSTIFICATION FOR EXCEEDING THE AMOUNT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MA'AM. THANK YOU ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. THERE'S NO ONE MORE DISCUSSION. THE MOTION IN A SECOND. AT THIS TIME, MADAM CLERK. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. COUNCIL MEMBER ROBERT WILSON SMITH. NO. COUNCIL MEMBER MYERS. UH COUNCIL MEMBER WESTBROOK MEMBER HILL VICE MAYOR SMITH LEE. I PERM I PASSED. NEXT WE MOVE ON TO ITEM H, WHICH IS A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE CONSIDERATION OF THE ORDINANCE TO AUTHORIZE THE USE OF CITY PROPERTY, LOCATED AT 1, 35 NORTH UNION STREET AND 2 44 SOUTH SYCAMORE STREET FOR REHABILITATION OF THE PETERSBURG HOTEL MAYOR BEFORE THIS COMMENCES, JUST WANTED TO NOTE A CLERICAL CORRECTION. UM THE PROBLEM THAT IT IDENTIFIES 2 40 FOR SOUTH SYCAMORE. IT'S ACTUALLY THE PARKING LOT THAT BACKS UP TO 2 44 SOUTH SYCAMORE, AND THE ADDRESS FOR THAT PARKING LOT IS ACTUALLY 1 25 NORTH UNION . SO HAVE COUNSEL FAVORABLY CONSIDERS THIS OUT. ASKED THAT THEY CONSIDERED WITH THAT AMENDMENT TO IDENTIFY THE PARKING LOT IS THE PARKING LOT LOCATED AT 1 25 NORTH UNION. IT'S THE ONE DIRECTLY NEXT TO AND AS DEPICTED IN THE DIAGRAM NEXT TO THE ONE THAT WE USE BEHIND CITY HALL. ALRIGHT 1 25 MILLION UNION STREET. ALRIGHT MR JOHNSON MAYOR, VICE MAYOR MEMBERS COUNCIL. THIS ORDINANCE IS TO ALLOW THE CONTRACTOR THAT'S WORKING ON THE PETERSBURG HOTEL TO HAVE ACCESS TO CONTINUE THAT RENOVATION. SO THIS ORDINANCE OF GRANTS THE CITY MANAGER AND THE ATTORNEY OF THE ABILITY TO ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH THAT CONTRACTOR TO USE THIS SPACE TEMPORARILY

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YES SIR. I CAN TALK FURTHER WITH DEVELOPERS COUNCIL AND MAKE THAT CLARIFICATION AND I BELIEVE THE DISCUSSION WAS POTENTIALLY HAVING A SPECIAL MEETING IN THE NEAR FUTURE. PERHAPS WE COULD INCLUDE IT IF WE CAN GET THAT RESOLVED BY THEN. IF IT'S TIME. ESSENCE OR DO OR WHAT? YOU KNOW, PUMPING TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE. YES IT IS. OKAY UM, WHAT WAS THAT SUBSTITUTE MOTION. DID YOU SAY MR WILLIAMS? YES, SIR. SIMPLY, UM INCLUDING IN THE REQUIREMENT THAT YOU MOVED TO ADAPT THE ORDINANCE WITH THE CAVEAT THAT ANY AGREEMENT MUST BE BETWEEN THE DEVELOPER AND THE CITY, NOT HIS SUBCONTRACTOR. OKAY SO MOVE, MR MAYOR. ALRIGHT, SO WE AMENDED THE MOTION.

ALRIGHT, AS STATED BY THE CITY ATTORNEY AND THE SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MYERS. ALL RIGHT AT THIS TIME, MADAM CLERK YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. ASKED MEMBER CUSTOMER SCENE. COUNCIL MEMBER WILSON SMITH, I COUNSELOR VIERS COUNCIL MEMBER WESTBROOK. REMEMBER HUGH IEE HIGH

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NEXT FIVE. MR ORGANIZATIONAL CHART OF THE CITY OF PETERSBURG. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. GARRETT.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THE MINI BUDGET HIGHLIGHTS ARE 5% CITYWIDE SALARY INCREASE APPLY TO ALL EMPLOYEES WHO DID NOT RECEIVE ANY PERSONAL REPRIMANDS WITHIN THE LAST YEAR AND WAS HIGHER PRIORITY TO MAY. 30 2023. ADJUSTMENT THERE SHOULD BE 2022 EXCUSE ME, ADJUSTMENT FOR ADDITIONAL REVENUES FOR TRANSIT STREETS AND OTHER GENERAL FUND REVENUE. ADDITIONAL CHANGES WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT, SUCH AS COMBINING RISK MANAGEMENT WITH HUMAN RESOURCES, AS WELL AS MERGING COMMUNICATIONS, MUSEUM AND TOURISM. ALSO, THE TURF DIVISION HAS BEEN MOVED TO GROUNDS. NEXT LIFE, PLEASE. THANK YOU. GENERAL FUND REVENUE SUMMARY. THE REVENUE INCREASED.

33% 33.6% INCREASE IN FINES AND FORFEITURES BASED OFF OF ACTUAL DATA. 21.1% INCREASED REVENUES FROM FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, WHICH REALLY IS RP FUNDS THAT WERE BEING MOVED FROM THE NON DEPARTMENTAL MOVED UNDER REVENUE FROM FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. 6.57 INCREASE FROM REVENUE FROM THE COMMONWEALTH DUE TO THE SOCIAL SERVICES, INCREASING CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS. GENERAL GOVERNMENT AMENDED. HE WAS 26.94 INCREASE IN THE CITY MANAGERS, $100,000 WAS ADDED FOR THE MAYOR YOUTH ACADEMY. 10.55% INCREASE IN THE CITY ATTORNEY FULLY FUNDED THE SYSTEM ATTORNEY POSITION. AS IT WAS ORIGINALLY RATED, SLATED TO BE FUNDED IN JANUARY, AS APPARENTLY GLE 79.5% 50% INCREASE IN HUMAN RESOURCES COMBINING RISK MANAGEMENT WITH HUMAN RESOURCES AS WELL AS THE INCREASE IN SALARIES, 21.27 INCREASE IN COLLECTIONS AND ADDITIONAL COLLECTIONS. CUSTOMER SERVICE REPRESENTATIVE 28.55% INCREASE IN PROCUREMENT, MERGING THE CENTRAL STOREROOM WITH PROCUREMENT AS WELL AS INCREASES AGAIN, MINUS 12.61% DECREASE IN CITY COUNCIL AS WE REMOVED THE ADDITIONAL SALARIES FOR CITY COUNCIL AS THEY DO NOT TAKE EFFECT UNTIL 2024. 10.29% DECREASE IN THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT DUE TO REMOVAL OF VACANCIES. THE REST OF THE NEGATIVES IN THE CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS REALLY SEEMS FROM OUR OPEN ENROLLMENT PROCESS THAT HAPPENED IN MAY AND DOING ACTUAL INFORMATION RESPONSE RECEIVING AS EMPLOYEES HAVE SWITCHED THEIR BENEFITS FOR FRINGE BENEFITS. SO I DON'T WANT ANYONE TO THINK THAT WE REDUCE THEIR BUDGETS IN THE CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS. A LOT OF THOSE NEGATIVES COME FROM AS WE DO OPEN ENROLLMENT AND PEOPLE CHANGE THEIR, UM WHAT THEY WANT TO, UM DO FOR HEALTHCARE AND STUFF. THOSE THOSE VARIANCES CHANGED THAT WAY . I DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO THINK THAT WE ACTUALLY REDUCE THEIR

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THE VACANCIES. THE CURRENT THING . YES, MA'AM. YES, MA'AM. THEY WEREN'T CURRENTLY FUNDED AT FIRST OR NO, THEY WERE, BUT WE CHANGE THE FUNDING FOR JANUARY. LEISURE AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT . SUMMARY 12.58% INCREASE OF RECREATION TO COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT TO INCREASE PART TIME SALARIES, OTHER CONTRACTUAL SERVICES AND SPECIAL EVENTS BASED OFF OF FISCAL YEAR 22 DATA. 12.18% INCREASES CEMETERIES INCREASES DUE TO SALARIES. A MAJORITY OF INCREASES IN THIS BUDGET IS DUE TO THE SALARIES. THERE IS A MINIMAL INCREASE DUE TO ACTUAL FISCAL YEAR 22 DATA MAJORITY OF THE CREASES IN THEM IN THE BUDGET COME FROM THE SALARIES TO 5% INCREASE. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THANK YOU. 28.7% INCREASE IN PLANNING, ADDING THE DIRECTOR OF PLANNING POSITION BACK TO THE DEPARTMENT PLANNING AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. WE'RE GOING TO ORIGINALLY BE JOINED TOGETHER, THE DEPARTMENT WILL CONTINUE TO BE SEPARATE. 25.39% INCREASE THE COMMUNICATIONS COMMUNICATIONS MUSEUM INTO OUR ROOMS. TOURISM HAS NOW BEEN COMBINED AS ONE DEPARTMENT. THIS IS WHERE THE NON DEPARTMENTAL THE BIGGEST CHANGES FOR NON DEPARTMENTAL AGAIN THE LOST REVENUES WAS MOVED FROM NON DEPARTMENTAL TO REVENUES UNDER RECEIVING FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. WE ADDED A $250,000 CONTINGENCY THERE WAS A SLIGHT DECREASE IN THE HEALTHCARE, INCREASING THE HEALTHCARE STATEMENT DUE TO AGAIN OPEN ENROLLMENT BEING IN MAY. UM, WE ALSO HAD ALONG WITH UNIVERSITY MED FLIGHT CHESTERFIELD COUNTY. VIRGINIA GATEWAY REGION, 51,000.

CREATOR DISTRICT AGENT, UM. THIS IS BASED OFF ACTUALLY WHAT THEY REQUESTED THE 11,000 INSTEAD OF THE 12. THERE WAS A SLIGHT DECREASE IN BRIGHT POINT AS THE SAME REASON THEY DECREED THEY ONLY REQUESTED 47 INSTEAD OF THE 51 PETERSBURG AREA. REGIONAL TOURISM, WE ADDED 83,000 AND DISTRICT 19 ADDITIONAL FUNDING WAS REQUESTED FOR $30,000. THE SLIDE, PLEASE CAN'T. NOW WE MOVE ON TO OUR SPECIAL REVENUE FUNDS. 11.29% INCREASE OF STREETS. THERE WAS A $648,233 INCREASE FOR URBAN HIGHWAY MAINTENANCE. THIS IS MORE MONEY THAT THEY WERE ARE RECEIVING FROM B DOT SO IT'S MORE REVENUES TO THE CITY. NEGATIVE 7.74 DECREASE IN COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT FUNDING REDUCED BY $45,146. TO MOVE ON TO OUR ENTERPRISE FUNDS. 27.11 INCREASE THE TRANSIT $1.8 MILLION IN ADDITIONAL REVENUE. STATE GRANT REVENUE MONTHLY O P ABOUT ADJUSTED BY 609,622 INCREASE IN REVENUES. PROJECT DEMO TECHNIC TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE STATE 1.2 MILLION ADDED AND REVENUES AS WELL FOR TRANSIT. THIS CONCLUDES THE PRESENTATION FOR THE AMENDMENT BUDGET. UM. THIS IS THE PUBLIC HEARING. FOR THE MINUTE ALL FUNDS BUDGET. I DON'T KNOW WHAT OPEN UP THE FLOOR FOR PUBLIC HEARING. IT'S BOB RUDOLPH. THANK YOU, BARBARA

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WE DID RECEIVE THE MONEY IN BUT WE HAVE NOT ALLOCATED IT OUT. YEAH. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, SEEING NO OTHER HANDS. THIS PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED. AND JUST FOR THE RECORD, I KNOW. UM I KNOW WHEN WE DID OUR TWO ON TWOS. YOU KNOW WHAT I ASKED FOR SOME, UM I DIDN'T SEE THE SOIL AND WATER CONSERVATORY ON THERE. OKAY, OKAY. YES FOR $2500, OKAY? ALRIGHT, COUNSELOR, MYERS. UM MISS JORDAN'S, UM. ADDITIONAL MONEY FOR THE ANIMAL SHELTER IN THIS ONE. YES THAT THAT'S COMING OUT OF DARPA. SO AGAIN, WE HAVE TO COME BEFORE COUNCIL FOR THE SECOND TRANCHE OF THE RP FUNDS AND HOW IT'S GONNA BE ALRIGHT AND ALSO FOR PAL. SAY IT AGAIN. I'M SORRY, PAL. YES THAT WILL BE INCLUDED AS WELL. POLICE ATHLETES. OKAY, COUNSELING WILSON SMITH. YES THANK YOU.

SINCE COUNCIL HAS ALREADY AGREED UPON MONEY FOR FROM THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT MONEY THAT WOULD BE DISPERSED, TOO. INDIVIDUALS. HOW DOES THIS AFFECT WHAT WE'VE ALREADY AGREED ON WITH? THE RETURN OF. MONEY'S THE AMOUNT THAT WE CAME BEFORE COUNCIL WITH WITH THE ACTION PLAN FOR THE NEW FISCAL YEAR WAS BASED OFF OF THIS AMENDED BUDGET. IT WAS A MAN BECAUSE WE RECEIVED THE LETTER AFTER THE BUDGET WAS ADOPTED. SO THE AMOUNT THAT COUNCIL AGREED ON WAS THE 500 SOMETHING 1000 AFTER 600,000. SO I'M NOT WORDS. THEN WHAT WE DID AGREE UPON IS WHAT WHAT WAS IT STILL IN PLACE? YES, MA'AM. AND IS THIS THE LAST AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WILL HAVE TO BE RETURNED TO THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT OR WILL WE HAVE TO DO IT AGAIN? I'M PRAYING THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO DO IT AGAIN. WE HAVE BEEN USING THE FUNDS THAT ARE STILL OUTSTANDING WITH THIS CDBG. WE JUST CURRENTLY USED UP EVERYTHING BY THE 9 30 DEADLINE.

WE STILL HAVE OTHER DEADLINES TO ME, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE MEET ALL THE DEADLINES SO THAT WE CAN STAY IN COMPLIANCE WITH CDBG. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. YOU KNOW THE QUESTIONS? COUNCILOR HILL. YOU CAN SEE YOU. REMEMBER THE COUNSELOR MOVED THAT WE APPROVED THE MAIN FY 23 INAPPROPRIATE F Y. 20 22 OR 23. 22 TO 23 IN ALL FUNDS BUDGET. COUNCILOR MYERS SECOND. MOTION TO SECOND AND DISCUSSION FROM THE COUNCIL. ALL RIGHT, MADAM CLERK. PLEASE CALL THE ROAD.

COUNCIL MEMBER, CUTHBERT, UH, MEMBER WILSON SMITH. NO. COUNCIL MEMBER MYERS COUNCIL MEMBER WESTBROOK COUNCIL MEMBER HILL I . SMITH LEE. I SPURN PAST. NEXUS ITEM, NINE PUBLIC INFORMATION

[9. Public Information Period]

RIGHT FIRST STEP WE HAVE MR CHRISTIAN.

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AND ALSO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK IS VERY IMPORTANT. I WOULD LIKE TO THANK OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT BECAUSE SO OFTEN WE DON'T GIVE THEM THE CREDIT. THAT THEY ARE DO ESPECIALLY WITH THE GUN VIOLENCE STILL GOING ON, BUT WE NEED THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO THANK ESPECIALLY OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR THEIR CONTINUED PRESENCE AT SPURS. THAT PLACE HAS BEEN A SORE SPOT. FOR THOSE WHO WAS IN THE HARDING AND DELECTABLE HEIGHTS AREA FOR QUITE A WHILE AND BECAUSE OF THEIR PRESENCE. CHIEF CHRISTIAN AND ALL WE HAVE SEEN A DECREASE. ACTUALLY IN SOME ACTIVITY, AND YOU CAN ACTUALLY DRIVE UP AND DOWN HALIFAX STREET AS WELL AS MELVILLE STREET NOW. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU COULD NOT DO.

AND LAST, BUT NOT LEAST ONE OF THE THINGS JUST, UH, I KNOW THIS CITIZEN PARTICULAR CITIZENS WANTED TO DO. I HAVE A LITTLE SOMETHING RIGHT HERE. I WANTED TO GIVE TO MISS LUCAS. UH MISS ENACTED NEW, NOT KEISHA JACKSON . LUCAS THIS IS JUST OUR LITTLE TOKEN SAYING HAPPY MARRIAGE, AND SO, UM, WE WANTED TO BRING THE COST SO OFTEN EVEN IN HER JOB, SHE GOES UNAPPRECIATED. BUT NOW THAT SHE HAS CHANGED HER NAME, BUT WE HAVE TO GET USED TO IT. DON'T BE SURPRISED. WE MAY END UP CALLING YOU LOUISE LUCAS 20. BUT MISS JACKSON. THIS IS FOR YOU. AND SO WE WANT. UM UM, SAY CONGRATULATIONS ON. YOUR NEW LEASE ON LIFE, RIGHT? THANK YOU. MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. LET YOUR HUBBY KNOW HE CAN SHARE THAT WITH YOU. THERE YOU ARE.

MAJESTIC. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. NEXT STEP, MR LAURA SMITH. OKAY? ALRIGHT, MISS SMITH. THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT TONIGHT. NEXT IS MISS BARBARA RUDOLPH. COUNCIL. UM, GREETINGS.

BARB RUDOLPH 16 75 MOUNT VERNON STREET. AH JUST A REQUEST AND A COUPLE OF COMMENTS. MY REQUEST IS THE LEGISLATIVE AGENDA. AH IT'S GETTING TO BE THAT TIME OF THE YEAR. SO IF YOU WOULD PLEASE. AS YOU SHAPE. ALLOW THE PUBLIC TO PARTICIPATE IF YOU CAN. WHATEVER. UM, LAST YEAR, IE VERSION THAT YOU VOTED ON UNTIL AFTER YOU VOTED, SO I HOPE IT WILL BE, UM, HANDLED DIFFERENTLY THIS YEAR, AND IT WILL BE SHARED AHEAD OF TIME AND THERE WILL BE SOME PARTICIPATION. UM THE COMMENTS. THAT'S UH YESTERDAY. UM I KNOW SEVERAL OF YOU WERE THERE AT THE JAIL ARC MEETING WHERE THE REPORT WAS WAS BRIEFED TO J. LARK AND EVERYBODY WHO WATCHED IT WAS REALLY INTERESTING. UM A COUPLE OF THINGS TO PICK UP ON WAS ONE THAT WAS, UM THEY TALKED ABOUT.

THE TIME FRAME. SO IF A CASINO WERE BUILT HERE, IT WOULD BE POSSIBLY OPEN IN 2027, THEN THE FIRST FULL YEAR OF OPERATION WOULD BE 2028. THAT'S WHAT THEY WERE USING AS THEIR BASE FOR THEIR FINANCIALS. UM SO I BROUGHT THIS UP BEFORE. IT'S BEEN AWHILE, BUT I JUST WANT TO REITERATE THAT BECAUSE THAT'S SO FAR DOWN THE ROAD. THEN THERE'S SO MUCH TO DO IN PETERSBURG IN THE NEAR TERM. THAT I HOPE THAT YOU CAN BALANCE YOUR INTEREST IN PUSHING FORWARD FOR THE CASINO AND WHATEVER YOU'RE DOING WITH THAT, BUT WITH THE HERE AND NOW WHICH IS ALL OF THE ONGOING

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YOU ALL ARE YOU ALL ARE ELECTED BY THE PEOPLE OF PETERSBURG. AND YOU'RE NOT PART OF ANY PERSONAL VENDETTA. THAT ANY POLITICIANS HAVE. SUCH AS THE SENATOR AND HAS CONCERNS WITH MAYOR STONEY OF RICHMOND. I DON'T THINK I JUST WANT TO ASK YOU NOT TO GET CAUGHT UP IN THAT. PLEASE JUST FOCUS ON WHATEVER YOU'RE DOING THAT YOU THINK IS RIGHT FOR PETERSBURG. AND EVEN IF THAT INCLUDES WORKING WITH RICHMOND, COLLABORATING WITH RICHMOND COMPROMISING WITH RICHMOND OR GOING ALL OUT FOR PETERSBURG. BUT NOT IN A WAY THAT YOU BURN BRIDGES WITH EVERYBODY ENRICHMENT BECAUSE WHAT'S COME OUT. WHAT I'VE SEEN SO FAR SEEMS AWFULLY CONTENTIOUS. AND, UM CONFRONTATIONAL AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHERE YOU WANT TO END UP. YOU WANT TO END UP WHERE YOU KNOW IF PETERSBURG HAS THE ONLY CASINO IN THIS REGION YOU STILL WANT TO. YOU DON'T WANT TO POISON THE WELL WITH RICHMOND, EITHER, UM RICHMOND GOVERNMENT OR RICHMOND CITIZENS. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. NEXT MISS JILL VIA WILSON. GIL VIA. STIFF WILSON AND I'M SAYING THAT FOR A REASON. GOOD EVENING TO THE ENTIRE PANEL. SPEAKING OF TIME BEING OF THE ESSENCE, I HAVE WAITED DILIGENTLY AND PATIENTLY FOR VIRGINIA HOUSING TO PAY ME FOR THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE HOUSED. FORECLOSURES SHOULDN'T BE ON THE TABLE. AUTOMATIC STAGE SHOULDN'T BE IN QUESTION. WHEN I'VE DONE IT MET ALL DEADLINES AND I'VE DONE IT EVERY SINGLE THING FROM THE DUVAL PROGRAM THAT WAS TOTALLY DISMISSED AND MOVED TO VIRGINIA TO GOLD DOT GOV. ONLY FOR ME TO BE TOLD THAT THE REASON WHY THEY'RE NOT PAYING ME IS BECAUSE THEY EXPRESSED TO MY TENANTS AND I HAVE EMAILS AND I HAVE PAPERWORK TO SUPPORT THIS FROM WHOMEVER ON THIS PANEL CAN ASSIST ME BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE I AM BEING WRONGED ON THIS. THEY'RE CONSTANTLY TELLING THEM THAT GIL VIA STIFF AND JOVIAL WILSON TO DIFFERENT PEOPLE. WHY? BECAUSE I GOT MARRIED. I STILL OWN THE SAME PROPERTIES. I AM STILL GUILTIEST DEATH. THAT IS THE PERMANENT NAME THAT MY FATHER GAVE ME. GIL VIA WILSON IS A NAME THAT MY EX HUSBAND LOANED ME. I AM GUILTY A STIFF AS WELL AS GILDEA WILSON.

FOR THAT REASON I AM CONSTANTLY AND STILL WAITING TO BE PAID. SO I'M PRESENTING THIS BEFORE YOU ALL BECAUSE WHO KNOWS BETTER THAN YOU ALL THAT I'M A BIG ADVOCATE OF THE HOMELESS AND I DID NOT AND COULD NOT DO EVICTIONS DURING THE PANDEMIC PANDEMIC IS OVER. I'VE BEEN WAITING SINCE AUGUST 2021 FOR PAYMENT. AND AS MUCH AS I DID RECEIVE PAYMENTS ON THREE OF MY TENANTS, WHY IS IT ALL OF A SUDDEN I'M A FRAUD? AND THIS IS WHAT THEY'VE TOLD MY TENANTS THAT I AM NOT GUILTY. A STATE THAT I AM STEALING GIL VIA WILSON IS STEALING THE PROPERTY FROM GIL VIA GILDEA. WILSON IS STILL IN THE PROPERTIES THAT I OWN IN THE CITY OF PETERSBURG.

FROM GILL V S DEATH. SO THAT'S WHY I'M NOT BEING PAID. I DEFINITELY NEED SOME ASSISTANCE ON THIS. MY ACCOUNT SHOULDN'T BE IN THE NEGATIVE. I SHOULD NOT BE A STRESS. AS 65, WHICH I AM I SHOULD NOT HAVE TO GO OUT AND WORK 14 16 18 HOURS A DAY TO CONTINUE TO PROVIDE FOR TENANTS THAT REFUSED TO PAY BECAUSE THEY'RE STILL WAITING ON VIRGINIA HOUSING ASSISTANCE. UM TO PAY THE RENT THAT THEY OWE ME. I THINK THAT'S TOTALLY UNFAIR AND I NEED YOUR ASSISTANCE. YEAH AND I DON'T JUST WANT TO TELL YOU ALL THIS TONIGHT AND THAT'S IT. I NEED SOME ASSISTANCE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT STEP, MS SARAH MELISSA WITH JACK THANKS. SHE'S LEFT. NEXT UP, DEMETRIA HARRIS.

GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. BUT TO HONORABLE MAYOR SAM PARENT AND THE MEMBERS OF OUR CITY

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SHE TOURED THE WORLD WITH MICHAEL JACKSON ON HIS HISTORY TOUR OF 1996 TOWARDS INTERNATIONALLY WITH STEVIE WONDER, AND WHITNEY HOUSTON JUST TO NAME A FEW. SHE WORKED ON SEVERAL POPULAR TELEVISION SHOWS THROUGHOUT HER CAREER, AS WELL AS ON BROADWAY WITH THE GREAT LENA HORNE AND TONY AWARD WINNING ORIGINAL CAST OF THE LION KING AND CAROLINA CHANGE, JUST TO NAME A FEW. MARVEL RECEIVED NUMEROUS ACCOLADES FOR WORK AND REGIONAL THEATRICAL PRODUCTIONS AND SPENT THE LAST FOUR YEARS TOURING WITH ORCHESTRAS ACROSS THE UNITED STATES AND CANADA. SHE WAS A MEMBER OF BROADWAY INSPIRATIONAL VOICES FROM MORE THAN 30 YEARS, SHE LIVED A DYNAMIC LIFE. WE WERE HONORED TO RECEIVE A PROCLAMATION PRESENTED BY OUR MAYOR FROM OUR GREAT CITY IN HER HONOR AT HER CELEBRATION OF LIFE SERVICE HELD ON SEPTEMBER 7TH 2022. IT WAS A PROUD MOMENT FOR THE TAHA HICKS AND PETERSON FAMILIES AND A PROUD MOMENT ALSO FOR CITIZENS OF THE GREAT AND HISTORICAL CITY OF PETERSBURG. LET US ALL BE REMINDED THAT WHEN THE CITY PROVIDES OPPORTUNITIES FOR ITS CITIZENS TO DEVELOP AND CREATE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THEMSELVES, GREAT THINGS HAPPEN EVERY SINGLE DECADE OF THIS CITY'S ILLUSTRIOUS HISTORY HAS PRODUCED AMAZING TALENTS FROM THEATER TO SPORTS. MUSIC, INDUSTRY, TECHNOLOGY AND EDUCATION. THE LIST GOES ON AND ON. MARVELOUS SUCCESS IS JUST ONE OF THE MANY TESTAMENTS OF THE LEVEL OF EXCELLENCE THAT COMES FROM THE NATIVES OF THIS GREAT CITY. IT IS MY HOPE THAT THE CITY WILL CONTINUE CELEBRATING THE LIFE AND LEGACY OF ONE OF OUR BRIGHTEST STARS.

MARTHA HICKS TAHA BY PROVIDING AND EXPANDING OPPORTUNITIES OF EXPOSURE TO AND EDUCATION AND THE ARTS FOR THE YOUTH OF THIS GREAT CITY. LET US ALL BE REMINDED ONCE AGAIN THAT WHEREVER THERE IS THE DEVELOPMENT AND OUR YOUTH, WHEREVER THERE HAS BEEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO SHINE THE LIGHT ON THE BRILLIANCE, PURE ABILITY AND CALIBER OF TALENT OF THE GREAT PEOPLE OF THIS GREAT CITY THAT WE ALL LOVE. PETERSBURG VIRGINIA, GREATNESS FOLLOWS. IT ALWAYS HAS. AND IT ALWAYS WILL. THANK YOU AGAIN, MAYOR PARAM AND ALL MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL. WE ARE FOREVER GRATEFUL FOR YOU AND YOUR SERVICE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. RIGHT, THAT CONCLUDES. OUR

[10. Business or reports from the Mayor or other Members of City Council]

COUNCILWOMAN WILSON SMITH. UM AT HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE CITY MANAGER. SUPPOSE OR UM MAYBE IT'S THE TREASURER OR FINANCE. BUT WHEN WE GET OUR WEEKLY REPORTS, AND I READ THAT X AMOUNT OF PEOPLE'S WATER WAS DISCONNECTED, AND THEN THERE'S ANOTHER NUMBER OF PEOPLE. UM, WHO HAVE NEW SERVICES. ARE THEY BRAND NEW SERVICES OR ARE THEY SERVICES RECONNECTED FROM THE DISCONNECTION. OTHER. OTHER PEOPLE RECEIVING LETTERS FROM THE CITY. TELLING THEM THAT

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WE CAN SEND THEM TO FILE. THEY CAN START GETTING US THE MONEY. AND SO THESE PEOPLE CAN GET THEIR SERVICES TURNED BACK ON AND STOP PEOPLE FROM FURTHER BEING DISCOVERED DISCONNECTED.

AND SO THE, UM HOW DID THE CITIZENS LEARN ABOUT THIS? ONCE WE PUT GET EVERYTHING THAT WE, UM, THAT WERE SUPPOSED TO RECEIVE FROM THE STATE AND FROM THE COMPANY PROMISE WE WILL COME BEFORE COUNCIL AND DO A PRESENTATION FOR THE COMMUNITY SO THAT THEY ARE AWARE AS WELL AS POST INFORMATION ONLINE. THANK YOU. IT'S BEEN A CONCERN BECAUSE EVERY WEEK WE GET THESE REPORTS THE NUMBERS OF DISCONNECTIONS AND THE NUMBER OF CONNECTIONS ARE SO CLOSE MAKES YOU WONDER. ARE THESE THE SAME PEOPLE? IS A REOCCURRING AND IF THEY'RE GETTING THE HELP IF THEY HAVE CHILDREN WITHIN THEIR HOUSE , AND I KNOW THAT THE LAW SAYS THEY CAN'T DO THAT. BUT IF YOU DON'T KNOW THAT AND NOBODY IS LOOKING AT THAT, AND THERE'S STILL NOT GETTING THE HELP MOVING FORWARD FOR THE NEXT REPORT. WE WILL BREAK DOWN WITH THE TERMINATIONS AND THE NEW SERVICES ARE OKAY? THANK YOU. WELCOME. GUYS FROM LESTER SMITH. ALRIGHT. NEXT COUNSELOR WESTBROOK. NO DISSERTATIONS TONIGHT, DISSERTATIONS. GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY. UM I WOULD LIKE TO START OFF FIRST OF ALL, UM, WE'RE SAYING IT WAS A PLEASURE OF BEING AT THE FAITH IN BLUE EVENT HELD BY SHERIFF CRAWFORD THIS PAST WEEKEND. AH BUT MY MAIN CONCERN IS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE OF THE PARENTS AND GUARDIANS AND THE CITY OF PETERSBURG TO REALLY BRING THEIR CHILDREN OUT TO SUPPORT SUCH EVENTS. I KNOW THAT, UM A LOT OF THE SENIOR CITIZENS ALWAYS SUPPORT ME A CRAWFORD. EXCUSE ME, SHERIFF CRAWFORD, BUT SHE DID HAVE A GREAT EVENT THAT I WOULD HAVE LIKED TO HAVE SEEN MORE KIDS PARTICIPATION. SHE HAD HORSEBACK RIDING THE TRAIN. BOUNCY HOUSE. IT WAS JUST A GREAT EVENT, AND I DON'T WANT TO TAKE ANYTHING AWAY FROM IT OTHER THAN JUST SEEING MORE PARTICIPATION. I KNOW THERE'S ALWAYS CONCERN ABOUT THE ACTIVITIES AND THINGS FOR OUR YOUTH. BUT THERE ARE THINGS GOING ON THAT NARRATIVE HAS CHANGED IN PETERSBURG. THERE'S A LOT GOING ON IN PETERSBURG. WE JUST HAVE TO SUPPORT MY COMMUNITY LEADERS THAT ARE DOING SOMETHING I DO UNDERSTAND THAT THE GRAPES AND HOPS WAS GOING ON. AS WELL AS A COUNCILMAN. MARS WAS DOING SOMETHING AT THE HALIFAX TRIANGLE, BUT I THINK

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HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET OUT THE BELIEF PICK UP THAT I'M SURE WILL BE COMING AROUND MAYBE INTO NOVEMBER DECEMBER, ESPECIALLY IN SEVENTH WARD. I KNOW MISS WOULD ATTACK HAS LEFT, BUT WE DO HAVE A LOT OF TREES, ESPECIALLY IN THE RAMBLEWOOD CAMELOT AREA. AS WELL AS GREENWOOD FARMS THAT YOU KNOW IT'S ONLY ONE TIME THAT THEY WILL COME AROUND AND PICK UP THE LEAVES FOR FREE, BUT WITHOUT PROPER NOTIFICATION WHEN YOU ONLY GET A FEW DAYS IT'S DIFFICULT TO GET YOUR LEAVES OUT TO THE ROAD, SO HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET THAT OUT IN MORE THAN ENOUGH TIME FOR PEOPLE TO REALLY PARTICIPATE, AND SO THAT THEY CAN REALLY UTILIZE THAT SERVICE THAT THE CITY'S OFFERS. UM I KNOW IT. JUST TWO MORE THINGS. AND THAT IS THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. UM I WAS GLAD TO SEE THE DAY GOT GOOD PRESS WITH THE RECRUITMENT THIS LAST FRIDAY. UH IT WAS THE FIRE RESCUE AND EMERGENCY SERVICE RECRUITMENT. GOOD ALWAYS TO SEE GOOD NEWS COMING OUT ON THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. UH UM. LESS IS THE BILLBOARDS. NOT SURE IF THIS IS YOU MISS JOANNE WILLIAMS, BUT I WOULD LIKE I GOT WHEN I WAS DUE OUT CANVASSING ON THE WASHINGTON STREET CORRIDOR, MISS CARD OVAL WITH S AND S RIGGING RIGHT BESIDE HER BUSINESS. THERE'S A BILLBOARD THAT IS NOT BEING USED, AND IT'S PRETTY MUCH FALLING DOWN, AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN UTILIZE THAT BILLBOARD TO MAYBE AGAIN WITH MR MOORE WITH THAT ENTERPRISE ZONE JUST TO PROPERLY USE THAT, UM BEING THAT IT IS A MAJOR BILLBOARD RIGHT THERE, AND I WAS WELL LIKE TO SEE THE BILLBOARD ON INTERSTATE 85 RIGHT BEFORE YOU GET TO EXIT. 65 BE USED AS WELL. I KNOW THAT IS WHAT THE LAMAR GROUP BUT YOU ACTUALLY HAVE TREAT I MEAN GREENERY GROWING UP ON THE BILLBOARD AND AS AN ENTRYWAY INTO THE CITY. UM I THINK THAT WE NEED TO BE REALLY USING THAT HOPEFULLY EVEN TO DIGITAL BILLBOARD LIKE IT IS ON 95 SO THAT WE CAN GET MORE PUBLICITY AND LAST. AND IF YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, HASHTAG, UM I WOULD LIKE TO COMMENCE MAYOR PARAM FOR HIS ACTIONS AND AGAIN, IF YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A DINNER RECENTLY THAT I WAS PROUD TO SEE THAT MY MAYOR, STAND UP AND DEFEND THE CITY OF PETERSBURG AGAINST PEOPLE THAT COME IN. THEY WANT TO TRASH OUR REPUTATION. AND THE LEADERSHIP AND THE THINGS THAT WE DO SO I WAS GLAD TO SEE HIM STAND UP. SO WITH THAT ARE CLOSE BY SAYING SEVEN. FORD HAS HASHTAG BIG WARD ENERGY AND WE CAN CONTINUE GOING FORWARD. HI. THANK YOU.

COUNCILOR MYA'S. THANK YOU, MR MAYOR. I WOULD LIKE TO PREFERENCES CITY MANAGER AND ALSO I'D LIKE TO SAY TO MR PAUL JOHNSON. I WANT TO THANK RICHARD AND RON L FOR ALL THAT THEY DO IN THE WORKS DEPARTMENT WHENEVER WE HAVE A REQUEST. AND I'D LIKE THE ORDER TO SHARE MY

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WHERE WE ARE WITH RESPECT TO THE TRANSFORM IT ALBERT JONES FIELD. AND WHEN IS THAT GOING TO BE PREPARED? BECAUSE WE DO HAVE OUR YOUNG FOOTBALL PLAYERS OUT THERE AND IT IS NOW DAYLIGHT SAVING TIME, AND THEY HAVE NO LIGHTS TO PRACTICE IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA.

SO I WAS MADE AWARE OF THE SITUATION YESTERDAY. SO WE'RE LOOKING INTO WHETHER THAT IS AN INSURANCE CLAIM THROUGH OUR RISK MANAGEMENT IS THE TRANSFORMER FELL AND THE CLEAN UP THE HEAD TO HAPPEN FOR THE ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES TO GET THAT CLEANED UP , SO WE ARE LOOKING ON GETTING THAT TRANSFORMER REPLACED WHAT THAT'S GOING TO TAKE AND THEN GETTING THE LIGHTS BACK ON OUT THERE AT THE FIELD. SO THERE'S NO ANTICIPATED TIME WAS MADE AWARE OF IT YESTERDAY, SIR.

WELL. IN MY I THINK WE WERE AWARE OF THAT BEFORE YOU GOT HERE, MR JOHNSON, SO I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THEY FOLLOWED UP AND TELL YOU ABOUT THE PAST. BUT IT IS WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION THIS WEEKEND, SO I MADE THAT CALL YESTERDAY. SO, BUT IF YOU CAN FIND OUT FOR ME IF THERE IS AN ANTICIPATED DATE FOR THAT TO BE REPAIRED. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU, SIR. ALRIGHT, THAT'S IT. ALRIGHT, COUNCILMAN HILL. YES. SO UM. GOOD EVENING. EVERYONE PRAYED IT ALL AS WELL.

WHATEVER. ONE, UM FOR TALKING FOR BASICALLY FOR FAR TOO LONG. WE'VE BEEN THEIR CITY TO SAY NO TO EVERYTHING. I KNOW WE'RE MOVING AND FAST PIECE. SO I ALWAYS USE THE ANALOGY THAT WE HAVE TO BE READY SO WE DON'T HAVE TO GET READY. SO THINGS THAT HAVE COME THAT WE DISCUSS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. EVERYBODY HAS JUST SUCH THIS DOOM AND GLOOM ABOUT OUR CITY.

THEY JUST DIDN'T START HAPPENING . IT'S BEEN HAPPENING FOR YEARS, BUT NOW THINGS ARE TURNING THE CORNER. SO WE JUST ASK THE CITIZENS TO HAVE FAITH IN YOUR COUNCIL. SEVEN OF US UP HERE. SO UH, WE TRY TO GET THINGS TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITY WITH THE KNOWLEDGE THAT WE ARE PRESENTED BY STAFF. AND TO OUR STAFF. WE THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU DO, BUT FOR THOSE WHO KNOW THAT WE HAVE PRESENTATIONS, MAKE SURE EVERYTHING IS IN THE. IN IN IN IN THE PAPERS THAT WE NEED SO WE CAN HAVE THE BEST SO WE CAN MAKE THE BEST FORM DECISIONS SO WE'RE NOT A CITY TO SAY NO TO EVERYTHING RIGHT NOW. I'M NOT SAYING THAT WE'RE GOING TO SAY YES TO EVERYTHING, BUT BUT WE HAVE A LOT OF IRONS IN THE FIRE. WE KNOW ABOUT THE RAMADI AND THAT WAS A PARTNERSHIP. SOMEBODY SAY SOMETHING ABOUT YOU KNOW THE MONEY BEING SPENT AND THINGS LIKE THAT. THAT REALLY WAS. THE GOVERNOR'S MONEY WASN'T OUR MONEY. THE GOVERNORS OF MONEY. SO. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO KNOW OUR FACTS WHENEVER WE'RE TALKING , ESPECIALLY WHEN WE SAY THINGS THAT THEY MIGHT, EVEN WHEN ITS CITIZENS SAY THINGS THAT THEY MIGHT BECAUSE IT HAS TO RUN LIKE WILDFLOWER. UH, FIRE. UM I WANT TO THANK THE MAYOR AGAIN. I WAS NOT PRIVILEGED TO PARTICULAR MEETING, UM, THAT THEY WERE AT SOME TYPE OF BANQUET OR SOMETHING. I WOULD NOT CALL THE NAME WITH THE BANQUET. UH, BUT A REPRESENTATIVE FROM ANOTHER OUTSIDE ENTITY STARTED TRASHING OUR CITY. MAYOR STOOD UP. FOREST CITY. I CALLED IT A WILL SMITH MOMENT NOT TO NOT TO. NOT TO NOT TO KNOW HE DIDN'T DO WELL SMELL , BUT I'M JUST SAYING I CALLED IT WILL SMITH MOMENT. BECAUSE THEY STOOD UP. CAN YOU IMAGINE BEING IN A BANQUET AND SOMEONE TALKS TALKING ABOUT YOUR CITY AND JUST DOWNGRADING YOUR CITY AND IT'S NOT FROM THE CITY? HE STOOD UP. AND HE DEFENDED OUR CITY. SO I THINK OUR MAYOR FOR HAVING TO CARRIAGE TO STAND UP EVEN WHEN PEOPLE MAY SAY THAT YOU KNOW WHERE HE SHOULDN'T HAVE SAID ANYTHING OR HE SHOULD HAVE JUST LET THAT SLIDE OFTEN TOO LONG. WE HAVE BEEN THE CITY THAT WE LET PEOPLE JUST SAY ANYTHING THEY WANT ABOUT OUR CITY BECAUSE IT'S PETERSBURG. YOU NEED TO HAVE PRIDE IN YOUR CITY. I MEAN , A LOT OF A LOT OF PEOPLE I WORK DOWN IN OLD TOWN. A LOT OF PEOPLE LIKE THE CHARACTER OF OUR CITY. THEY SEE THE VALUE IN OUR CITY FROM OTHER PLACES. BUT THEN WE'LL LET OTHER PEOPLE COME HERE AND TRASH IT AND SAY WHATEVER, JUST DIE ANOTHER. THOSE DAYS ARE OVER. THIS IS THIS NEW BEGINNING IN THE CITY OF PETER DIVERSITY, I THINK OUR MAYOR FOR STANDING UP FOR US, UH, WITH THAT, AND LASTLY, I WANT TO THANK THE COUNCIL FOR ALL THE HARD WORK THAT WE'RE DOING. UH MODEL? UH, NOT THE RAMADA. THE CASINO. AH BECAUSE OF THIS COUNCIL BECAUSE OF LEGISLATION THAT HAS PUSHED IT THUS FAR. WE STILL HAVE SOME HURDLES THAT WE HAVE TO CROSS.

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THE MORATORIUM IS OVER, SO I'LL GET YOU THE CONTACT INFORMATION, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH HELP YOU CAN GET FROM THEM. YEAH. TO THE STATE, BUT I'LL GET YOU THE INFORMATION YOU CAN TALK

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TO GO DOWN IN NORFOLK FOR THE GOVERNOR'S BOLD BLUE LINE INITIATIVE, WHICH WOULD BE BOAST ENOUGH SUPPORT FOR THE POLICE TO READ. GUN VIOLENCE OUT OF OUR COMMUNITY. IT WAS A FANTASTIC EVENT WAS DOWN THERE WITH CHIEF AND IN LAW ENFORCEMENT FROM SOUTHWEST VIRGINIA FROM NORTHERN VIRGINIA ALL THE WAY FROM TAD WATER. AND LIKE, THANK THE GOVERNOR FOR YOU KNOW, GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO THAT CROWD ON ON HOW WE'RE SERIOUS ABOUT COMBATING CRIME HERE IN THE CITY OF PETERSBURG AND THE RELATIONSHIPS THAT WE INFORM WITH THE COMMONWEALTH. WE PLAN ON EXECUTING ON HIM AND MAKING OUR COMMUNITY A PLACE WHERE YOU WANT TO LIVE, WORK AND RAISE A FAMILY. UM ALSO WE WHILE WE WERE DOWN THERE AND KNOWING WHERE WE WERE ABLE TO GO BY THE OLD WOODROW WILSON HIGH SCHOOL FOR THE MISSY MISSY ELLIOTT, UH, RENAMING OF THE STREET AND ALSO RESOLUTION BY THE GOVERNOR. SO WHAT? WE FOUND OUT THAT ONE OF OUR OWN WAS THEIR TRADE SONGS WAS THERE AND WE MANAGED TO CALL HIM AND SAY, TREY, WE'RE COMING OVER. SO, CHIEF, WE ROLLED OVER THERE FROM NORFOLK TO PORTSMOUTH AND SAY HELLO TO, UH TO TRADE SONGS, AND IT WAS A FABULOUS EVENT OUT THERE AT THE FOOTBALL FIELD. YOU HAD HAMPTON UNIVERSITY BAND THERE YOU HAD NO FIXED STATE UNIVERSITY BAND THERE. ELIZABETH CITY STATE. UNIVERSITY BAND THERE, AND THEY WERE ALL PLAYING MISSY ELLIOTT SONGS OUT THERE ON THE FOOTBALL FIELD. THEY WERE BATTLING WITH SONGS AND THE BLEACHERS WAS FILLED, AND IT WAS A GREAT TIME CELEBRATING ANOTHER ONE OF PETER'S OF VIRGINIA'S OWN MISSY ELLIOTT AND HANGING OUT, I THINK, UM TREY. HAD JUST A BIGGER CROWD AROUND HIM WHEN HE HIT THE FEEL. I MEAN, I THINK ALL OF THE LADY STARTED SCREAMING AND SURROUNDED OF FOR PICTURES AND AUTOGRAPHS AND ALL THOSE THINGS, SO WE'RE REALLY PROUD OF HIM AND ALL THE WORK YOU'RE DOING REPRESENTING US, UM IN THE ENTERTAINMENT FIELD LIKE HE DO. HE'S A FANTASTIC TALENT. UM NEXT WE MOVE ON TO ITEM 11 IS REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA

[12. Finance and Budget Report]

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THIS IS THE FIRST QUARTER OF BUDGET TO ACTUAL FOR FISCAL YEAR 23 ENDING SEPTEMBER 30TH 2022.

SO FOR THE GENERAL FUND RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE A REVENUES OVER EXPENDITURES OF 4.8 MILLION UM WE'RE BELOW IN GRANTS, BUT THAT'S TO BE EXPECTED. WE HAVE MORE REVENUES COMING THROUGH FOR GRANTS IS FAIRLY EARLY ON IN THE YEAR. UM GIVEN THE FIRST THREE MONTHS AS FAR AS THE SAME AS WHAT TRANSIT THERE IS A DEFICIT . HOWEVER, THEIR FUNDS HAVEN'T STARTED COMING IN. YES. THANKS.

FIVE. PLEASE. THIS SLIDE SHOWS THE REVENUES THAT HAVE BEEN RECEIVED FOR CURRENT MONTH AND FOR A YEAR TO DATE THUS FAR. PRETTY GOOD. WE'RE LOOKING REALLY GOOD FOR PERSONAL PROPERTY TAXES AND OTHER LOCAL TAXES. WE WON'T REALLY SEE A LOT OF ADDITIONAL TAXES AGAIN UNTIL FEBRUARY ONE PERSONAL PROPERTIES. YEAH. NEXT FIVE, PLEASE. THIS SLIDE IS A BREAKDOWN OF EVERY DEPARTMENT. CURRENT MONTH AND YEAR TODAY. AND THE REMAINING ABOUT ABOUT BUDGET OF THE MOUTH. THIS INFORMATION HAS ALSO PROVEN BY HAVE BEEN PROVIDED TO EACH DEPARTMENT HEAD AS WELL AS THEIR PERSONNEL SUMMARIES TO REVIEW TO SEE WHERE THEY'RE AT AND STANDING THUS FAR THIS YEAR, IT WILL CONTINUE TO BE SENT TO DEPARTMENT HEADS AS WELL AS POSTED TO THE CITY'S WEBSITE QUARTERLY AND PRESENTED THE COUNCIL. KEEP GOING. I THINK WE'RE GONNA COME IN A LOT LOWER FOR RIVERSIDE REGIONAL, UM ONLY BECAUSE WE'RE NOT SENDING AS MANY INMATES IN EVEN THOUGH WE'VE ALLOCATED 40,000,004 MILLION TO THEM. SO TO ADDRESS THE PRIOR AUDIT FINDINGS AND ADHERE TO PROVIDING TRANSPARENCY TO THE PUBLIC AND DEPARTMENT.

THE DEPARTMENT HAS CREATED MONTHLY AND QUARTERLY REPORTS THAT ARE PROVIDED TO CITY COUNCIL AS WELL AS POSTED TO THE CITY'S WEBSITE THE FISCAL YEAR 2021 CITY A. C F R IS DUE TO BE COMPLETED THIS WEEK IN PRESENTED BEFORE COUNCIL AT THE COMMUNITY COUNCIL MEETING IN NOVEMBER. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU FOR THE REPORT ANY QUESTIONS FOR MAJORITY? ALL RIGHT, MR MAYOR, COVER AND ALWAYS GREAT TO SEE YOU. AH! DID YOU DID? YOUR NUMBERS HAVE MACHINERY AND TOOLS TAX BROKEN OUT AS A SEPARATE ITEM ALWAYS THAT UNDER OTHER ALBUM, PROPERTY , TAXES OR OTHER WE CAN DEFINITELY BREAK IT OUT. WE JUST TRY TO GROUP STUFF BY CATEGORIES , BUT WE CAN DEFINITELY BREAK IT OUT. IF YOU WANT TO SEE MORE DETAILS, IF YOU IF YOU WOULD NEXT TIME THAT WOULD BE GREAT OUT. I WAS I WAS TALKING TO SOMEONE WHO AND THERE'S A LOT ABOUT OF REGIONAL FINANCES, AND MY RECOLLECTION IS THAT HE TOLD ME THAT MACHINERY AND TOOLS TAX. IN HOPEWELL GENERATES $9 MILLION AND THE MACHINERY AND TOOLS TAX AND PETERSBURG GENERATES A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS. THAT'S 18 TIMES. YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE NUMBER THAT WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IF IT'S AS BAD AS I THINK IT IS. OF COURSE, THE ONLY WAY TO DO THAT IS TO GROW OUR INDUSTRY. BUT THAT'S EASIER SAID THAN DONE, BUT I THINK IF YOU DID BREAK OUT MACHINERY AND TOOLS, TAXES, A SEPARATE LAND ITEM THAT WOULD HELP REMIND PETERSBURG SORRY. THAT WOULD HELP REMIND CITY COUNCIL. UH, THAT WE REALLY CAN DO BETTER. ABSOLUTELY WE CAN DEFINITELY BREAK IT OUT. WHAT WE'LL DO I'LL DO IS I'LL ADD AN ADDITIONAL, UM, TAB ON THIS VIRTUE THAT INCLUDES THE BREAKDOWN OF EVERYTHING FROM THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANKS FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO THINK GREAT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. MR JORDAN'S APPRECIATE IT. THANKS FOR GOING ON TO ITEM B, WHICH IS A PRESENTATION FROM OUR CITY ASSESSOR AND DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE TOGETHER. HELLO MISS BURKE KEPT GOOD EVENING. HOW ARE YOU? GOOD EVENING. HOW ARE YOU? GREAT. SO STACY CAME UP WITH A REALLY GOOD IDEA TO HAVE A DISCUSSION REGARDING THE PROCESS. OF THE REAL ESTATE TAX BILLS, AND WE JUST WANT TO GIVE A QUICK OVERVIEW OF THAT TONIGHT. UM SO THAT PROCESS DOES START WITH THE CITY ASSESSOR'S OFFICE. AND THE ASSESSED VALUES ARE USED TO CREATE THE LAND BOOK, WHICH IS PRODUCED EVERY YEAR. THE LAND BOOK IS A COMBINATION OF THE ASSESSMENT PROCESS AND INCLUDES EACH PARCEL

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SO SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE HAD WAS IN REGARD TO COMMUNICATION CLEAR COMMUNICATION BETWEEN ALL DEPARTMENTS. WHEN THE BILLS ARE TO BE GENERATED AND WHEN THEY HAVE INFORMATION IS RECEIVED. ALSO AN UPDATED ASSESSMENT PROCESS. AS FAR AS I'M AWARE, I DON'T THINK THERE IS A PROCESS THAT'S ACTUALLY, UM, EXIST CURRENTLY FOR HOW THE SET SOME VALUES ARE REVIEWED ONCE THEY'RE RECEIVED. AND WHO'S FOLLOWING UP AND THEN A RECONCILIATION PROCESS AS WELL WHICH I HAVE ALSO INCLUDED ON PAGE 14. I SAMPLE RECONCILIATION THAT JUST KIND OF REALLY DOWNLOADED FROM THE B. A. I WEBSITE ALREADY EXISTS FOR THIS CITY HASN'T BEEN USING IT. SO THAT'S ONE OF THOSE THAT ARE THREE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE HAD. SO IF YOU WILL, MR CUTHBERT. AH! WE HAVE TWO YEARS TO THE NEXT. REASSESSMENT YEAH, WE DO. WE DO IT. WELL WE'VE GOT A YEAR BEFORE IT HAPPENS. SO WE WILL HAVE THIS PROBLEM SOLVED. SO THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN AGAIN.

IT'S BEEN WE MET. WE DISCUSSED THE ISSUE ABOUT THE BILLS LAST WEEK. ALL OF US, INCLUDING THE COMMISSIONER. AND IT'S OUR OBJECTIVE IS TO MINIMIZE THE IMPACT TO OUR RESIDENTS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO BE SUPPLEMENT. WHAT I LEARNED WAS THERE WILL BE THERE WAS ALREADY A THOUGHT PROCESS THAT THERE WOULD BE FOUR QUARTERLY BILLS. PLUS FOUR SUPPLEMENTS. TO ADDRESS THE INCREASE IN ASSESSMENTS OR DECREASE IN ASSESSING SO WE GOT TO GET THE RECORD STRAIGHT, WHICH WE'RE WORKING WITH THE AI AND, UM. PATRIOT NOW TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE SYSTEMS YOU CAN TALK TO ONE ANOTHER CORRECTLY TO GET THE BILL STRAIGHT. THEN WHEN THE WHEN THE SUPPLEMENTS WILL GO OUT TO MY RECOMMENDATION THAT WE DON'T HIT CITIZENS MORE THAN ONCE IN DECEMBER. THAT WE SAY. WE PUSH THAT THAT SUPPLEMENT IN THE SUPPLEMENT THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE FOR SEPTEMBER. TO YOUR MARCH TIMEFRAME AND GIVE THEM TIME TO MAKE INSTALLMENT PAYMENTS IN THE INNER ROOM, SO WE DON'T HIT FAMILIES ALL AT ONE TIME. WITH TWO SUPPLEMENTS AND A BILL FOR THREE BILLS AT ONE TIME IN DECEMBER. RIGHT MR WILLIAMS AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE SUGGESTED AS I MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY, THE STEAKHOUSE EXPRESSLY REQUIRES THAT THE COMMISSIONER UPDATE THE LAND BOOK, AND WE DON'T WANT TO BE IN A SITUATION WHERE THERE'S A SUGGESTION THAT WE ARE TRYING TO RESTRICT THE DUTIES OF A CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICER. SO I'VE SUGGESTED IF THEY CAN GET COOPERATION FROM THE COMMISSIONER. PERHAPS AN MOU BETWEEN THE CITY'S ADMINISTRATION AND THE COMMISSIONER, ALLOWING THEM TO PERFORM HER DUTIES IF THAT IS THE ISSUE, AND THAT WILL ENABLE THEM TO MORE EFFECTIVELY PROCESS THESE AND I JUST WANT TO SAY BRITNEY DID MAKE A GOOD POINT. SHE OFFERED TO MEET QUARTERLY SO WE DON'T RUN INTO THIS AGAIN, JUST TO MAKE SURE ALL THE SYSTEMS ARE TALKING TO EACH

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ALL OF US HERE. BECAUSE IT'S AMAZING ISSUE AND I'M GONNA TELL YOU AND I PUT THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR. REMEMBER? YOU CANNOT PUT NEW WATER METERS IN THE GROUND AND THE SYSTEM CAN'T READ IT.

AND I SAID, WE CANNOT OPERATE WITHOUT A NEW SYSTEM. AND HE DID NOT GET A NEW SYSTEM AND YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENED. SO WE'RE GOING TO END UP IN THE SAME ISSUES WITH THE SAME ISSUES OVER AGAIN. SO PLEASE, LET US KNOW WHAT IT'S GONNA COST TO FIX THOSE PROBLEMS. OKAY. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. UM AGAIN. THANK YOU, MS JORDANS AND CORRECTION MRS WILLIAMS AS WELL . ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. NEXT. WE MOVE ON. TWO. ITEM 13 A

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ALRIGHT WE HAVE ON THE BREAKPOINT COLLEGE BOYD, UM SCHOOLBOY CHECK AND PREACH IT.

IS ON AS THE. 2025 AND THE NEW APPLICANTS, MISS LUCAS. WHO DO WE HAVE IS ADJUSTMENT, MR BERNARD LUNDY? YES IT'S JUST MR BERNARD LUNDY, WHICH I HAVE EMAILS AS WELL AS GIVING HARD COPIES TO ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS SO THAT THEY HAVE IT, WHICH IT WAS REQUESTED FROM THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING. OKAY? ALL RIGHT. ALRIGHT, COUNCILMAN. VICE MAYOR SMITH LEE. E EXCEPT THE APPLICATION FROM BERNARD LONDON TO BE APPOINTED. ON THE RIGHT POINT. UM COLLEGE BOARD. AND APPROVED THE RESOLUTION. COUNCILOR HILL. ALL RIGHT, MADAM CLERK. COULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? REMEMBER CUTHBERT, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER WILSON SMITH. I REMEMBER MYERS COUNCIL MEMBER WESTBROOK COUNCIL MEMBER HILL VICE MAYOR SMITH LEE PERM I FASM 14 8 NEW BUSINESS. CONSIDERATION

[14. New Business]

SO YOU WON'T GET THE ANSWER IS THE FIRST TIME I'VE SEEN THAT WHICH IS PART OF WHAT PROMPTED COUNCIL TO ASK ME ASKED ME TO LOOK AT THIS AND TRY TO HELP TO FIND WAYS TO IMPROVE IT. SO I'VE GOT A PRESENTATION. I'M GOING TO ASK GARRETT TO TURN ON HERE IN A MOMENT, BUT ALL IT REQUIRES IS EIGHT SIMPLE RULES TO BE ADOPTED BY COUNCIL VIA RESOLUTION AT THE END OF THIS, AND I'LL LET YOU WATCH THE PRESENTATION AND COMMENT AFTERWARD. TERMS OF COUNCIL. REQUEST WAS RECEIVED FROM SEVERAL MEMBERS OF COUNCIL FROM EVEN PROVIDE YOU WITH A PRESENTATION ON HOW TO IMPROVE THE AGENDA REVIEW PROCESS. SPECIFICALLY HOW TO ENSURE THAT AGENDA ITEMS THAT COME BEFORE COUNCIL ARE THOROUGHLY VETTED AND REVIEWED BY THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND BY AFFECTED DEPARTMENTS BEFORE THE ITEMS COME TO CITY COUNCIL. SO JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS I WANTED TO MENTION BEFORE I BEGIN THIS AS YOUR LEGAL COUNSEL. MY AREA OF EXPERTISE IS THE WALL.

PROVIDE YOU WITH LEGAL ADVICE AND REPRESENTATION. THE ISSUES DISCUSSED IN THIS PRESENTATION ARE LARGELY ADMINISTRATIVE, NOT LEGAL. IN OTHER WORDS, I CANNOT POINT TO A STATUTE REGULATION OR COURT CASE THAT REQUIRES ANY LOCALITY TO FOLLOW THE PROCESS THAT I'M SITTING OUT IN THIS PRESENTATION. BUT BASED UPON THE REQUESTS RECEIVED I AM SIMPLY PROVIDING YOU WITH A PROCESS THAT WAS FOLLOWED IN OTHER LOCALITIES THAT HAVE SERVED, WHICH WORKED WELL FOR THEM. THIS PRESENTATION IS NOT INTENDED TO SUGGEST THAT ANYONE HAS OR IS DOING ANYTHING WRONG. CURRENTLY.

THE CLERK AND CITY STAFF ARE SIMPLY FOLLOWING THE PROCESS THAT THEY HAVE FOLLOWED FOR YEARS. WHICH DID NOT INCLUDE A STRUCTURED REVIEW PROCESS, LIKE THE ONE THAT I'M GOING TO DISCUSS. I THINK THE FACT THAT CITY COUNCIL IS INTERESTED IN DISCUSSING THIS TOPIC IS EVIDENCE OF THE FACT THAT THIS COUNCIL IS SUBSTANTIALLY MORE SOPHISTICATED. THEN PRIOR CITY

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ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, PUBLIC WORKS AND TREASURER. CLERK OF COURT POLICE. PUBLIC UTILITIES CITY ASSESSOR. THE LIST GOES ON AND ON. AND EACH OF THESE DEPARTMENTS HAVE MULTIPLE EMPLOYEES, AND THEY HAVE SPECIFIC INTERESTS THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO THOSE DEPARTMENTS. AND THEY BRING THESE ISSUES. BEFORE COUNCIL IN THE FORM OF MOTIONS.

RESOLUTIONS. AND ORDINANCES. SO BEFORE WE GET TOO DEEP IN THE WEEDS OF THE AGENDA PROCESS.

LET'S TAKE A BIRD'S EYE LOOK AT GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS. THE CITIZENS. ELECT MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. WHO SERVE AS THE POLICY MAKING BODY FOR THE CITY. I HAVE OFTEN TIMES MAYBE ANALOGY TO A CRUISE SHIP OPERATION. YOU'RE THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS FOR THE COMPANY. YOU SET THE DESTINATIONS WHERE THE SHIP WILL GO, WHETHER IT BE THE BAHAMAS, FIJI, CANCUN OR OTHERWISE. AND YOU TELL US WHERE YOU WHERE YOU WANT US TO GO. THE MANAGER AS THE SHIP CAPTAIN DRIVES IN THE DIRECTION THAT YOU'RE POINTING IN, AND I ASKED THE SHIP'S NAVIGATOR TRY TO HELP US AVOID TROUBLED WATERS. SO THE CITY'S ADMINISTRATION. WORKS TO IMPLEMENT THE PROGRAM THE POLICIES AND GO AND GOALS. THAT COUNCIL HAS SET. AND THEY DO THAT THROUGH PROGRAMS AND PROJECTS THAT THEY COME UP WITH AND THEN PROPOSED TO CITY COUNCIL. IN THE FORM OF MOTIONS.

RESOLUTIONS. AND ORDINANCES. WHETHER IT'S EMOTIONAL RESOLUTION OR ORDINANCE DEPENDS ON A NUMBER OF FACTORS THAT ARE A LITTLE BIT BEYOND OUR FOCUS. IN THIS PRESENTATION. THEY'RE ACTUALLY DISCUSSED IN ANOTHER PRESENTATION THAT I PROVIDED TO STAFF A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO. BUT SUFFICE IT TO SAY THESE ARE THE THREE FORMS THAT PROPOSAL TO COUNCIL WILL GENERALLY TAKE AND THEN COUNCIL MAKES THE ULTIMATE DECISION. BY FORMAL VOTE. IN A PUBLIC MEETING ON WHETHER STAFFS PROPOSALS DO IN FACT, SUPPORT THE POLICIES AND GOALS. THAT COUNCIL HAS SAID IF COUNCIL APPROVES THE PROPOSAL. IT FALLS UPON THE CITY STAFF, IMPLEMENT AND EXECUTE AND ENFORCE THE PROPOSAL. SO HOW DO WE MANAGE THIS COMPLEX AGENDA PROCESS? THE COLLECTIVE COUNCIL COLLECTS THE AGENDA ITEMS FROM INDIVIDUAL DEPARTMENTS AND IN SYMBOLS. THE AGENDA PACKAGE. AND PROVIDES YOU WITH THE AGENDA SUMMARIZING WHAT IS CONTAINED IN THE PACKAGE. ONCE THE PACKAGE IS ASSEMBLED.

SHE PUBLISHES IT ALONG WITH A NOTICE IN ACCORDANCE WITH VIRGINIA LAW. SECTION 2.2 37 07 OF THE CODE OF VIRGINIA CONTAINS MOST OF THE LEGAL REQUIREMENTS ASSOCIATED WITH OUR OPEN MEETING. LAW AND PROVIDES IN RELEVANT PART AS FOLLOWS. ON MEETINGS SHALL BE. THEY THE COUNCIL MUST BE PHYSICALLY ASSEMBLED EXCEPT AS EXPRESSLY OTHERWISE PERMITTED BY STATUTE.

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THAT'S PRACTICED IN GENERALLY EVERY LOCALITY THAT I'M FAMILIAR WITH, AND THAT IS YOU PUBLISH.

THE AGENDA AT THE SAME TIME YOU PUBLISHED THE NOTICE. THE REASON YOU DO THAT IS THAT. IT SETS A DEADLINE FOR THE SUBMISSION OF AGENDA ITEMS. BUT EVEN MORE IMPORTANTLY, IT ENHANCES TRANSPARENCY AND ENSURES THAT CITIZENS ARE PROPERLY NOTIFIED OF MATTERS THAT WOULD BE PRESENTED TO THE GOVERNING PARTY. ANOTHER THING, AND PROBABLY EVEN MORE IMPORTANT THING IS THAT IT ENABLES CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS TO HAVE THE AGENDA PACKAGE. AT THE SAME TIME THAT THEY KNOW THE MEANING IS BEING CALLED. IN IT THREE DAYS IN ADVANCE SO THAT YOU CAN HAVE TIME TO PREPARE IN ADVANCE OF THE MEETING. SO LET'S TALK ABOUT THE CURRENT PROCESS AND A LITTLE MORE DETAIL. THE DEPARTMENT HEAD COMES UP WITH A PROPOSAL THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT A COUNCIL. THEY THEN UPLOAD THE INFORMATION INTO A COMPUTER SYSTEM KNOWN AS CIVIC CLERK.

THIS COMPUTER SYSTEM ASSEMBLES THE PACKAGE AND GENERATES A DRAFT AGENDA. THE CLERK HOLDS A AGENDA REVIEW MEETING A FEW DAYS PRIOR TO PUBLISHING THE MEETING GENERALLY TAKES PLACE ABOUT 4 TO 7 DAYS PRIOR TO THE COUNCIL MEETING. BUT THE TITLE AGENDA REVIEW CAN BE A LITTLE MISLEADING. THE AGENDA REVIEW MEETING GENERALLY TAKES ABOUT 15 TO 20 MINUTES AND THIS MEETING THE CLERK BASICALLY DOES AROUND . ROBIN ASKS EACH DEPARTMENT HEAD WHO HAS LOADED AN ITEM INTO THE CITY CLERK SYSTEM. AND THEY'VE GOT ALL THEIR DOCUMENTS LOADED AND WHETHER ANYONE ELSE HAS ANYTHING TO ADD TO THE AGENDA. SHE THEN? PUBLISHES THE AGENDA BY PLACING IT ALONG WITH THE REQUIRED MEETING NOTICE IN THE CITY'S WEBSITE, DELIVERING COPIES TO COUNSEL AS DESCRIBED IN 2.2 37 07 PREVIOUSLY AND AGAIN, THAT'S ALL THE CLERK IS LEGALLY REQUIRED TO DO, COLLECT AND ASSEMBLE THE PACKAGE, POST THE AGENDA NOTICE AND DISSEMINATED TO CITY COUNCIL.

AND MAKE IT AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC. THERE'S NOTHING THAT REQUIRES THE DEPARTMENT HEADS TO REVIEW THE AGENDA PACKAGE BEFORE YOU. YOU SEE IT. THERE IS NOTHING THAT REQUIRES THEM TO HAVE THE CITY ATTORNEY REVIEWED OR EVEN HAVE THE CITY MANAGER REVIEW IT UNLESS HE DIRECTS THEM TO AND NOTHING THAT SIGNIFIES THAT U S CITY COUNCIL. ARE MADE AWARE THAT THE CITY ATTORNEY OR ANYONE ELSE HAS REVIEWED THESE ITEMS. PRIOR TO RECEIVING THEM FOR CONSIDERATION. SO A COUPLE OF ADDITIONAL RULES THAT COUNCIL MAY WANT TO CONSIDER IMPLEMENTING TO FORMALIZE AND THE GENDER REVIEW PROCESS. RULE NUMBER TWO. STAFF AGENDA REVIEW SHOULD OCCUR NO LESS THAN FIVE BUSINESS DAYS BEFORE A MEETING SCHEDULED MEETING. RULE NUMBER THREE. THIS IS AN IMPORTANT ONE ITEMS NOT SUBMITTED BY DEADLINES ARE NOT ADDED TO THE PUBLISHED AGENDA. UM AND THAT APPLIES SHOULD APPLY TO EVERYONE SHOULD APPLY TO DEPARTMENT HEADS. BUT IT SHOULD ALSO BE SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE COGNISANT OF ITS NOT UNUSUAL FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS TO HAVE A RUSH ITEM THAT THEY THAT COMES UP AND THEY SAID , WE NEED TO PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA AND, OF COURSE, YOU KNOW STAFF AND THE ADMINISTRATION ARE GOING TO COMPLY. BUT BY DOING THAT. OFTENTIMES WE DO NOT HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW IT AND GIVE YOU FEEDBACK OR INFORMATION THAT MAY BE NECESSARY. IN ORDER FOR YOU TO MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION. NOTE THAT UNDER THE CURRENT PROCESS THE GENERAL VIEW

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AND THE REASON YOU DO THAT IS BECAUSE IT DRAWS ATTENTION TO THAT ITEM. IT MAKES EVERYONE AWARE THIS IS NOT ON YOUR PUBLISHED AGENDA. AND THOSE ITEMS ARE COPIED AND PLACED AT EACH COUNCIL MEMBERS SEAT. AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING. AND ALSO COPIES ARE AVAILABLE FOR CITIZENS WHO MAY SHOW UP FOR THE MEETING. BUT THE IMPORTANT THING TO NOTE ABOUT A GREEN SHEET ITEM IS THAT THEY CAN'T BE ADDED. EXCEPT BY A UNANIMOUS VOTE OF MEMBERS PRESENT TO THE AGENDA. AND IT'S DONE ONLY IN URGENT SITUATIONS. AND THE REASON YOU WANT TO USE THIS PROCESS IS BECAUSE ADDING ITEMS TO A PUBLISHED AGENDA AS OCCASIONALLY HAPPENS HERE. UM ENCOURAGES PROCRASTINATION. IT ALSO NEGATIVELY IMPACTS PUBLIC PERCEPTION OF TRANSPARENCY AND TRUST. I THINK CITIZENS RIGHT OR WRONG. THEY THINK SOMEONE'S TRYING TO SLIP SOMETHING IN HERE , AND I DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO REVIEW IT. SO BY DOING IT ONLY IN EMERGENCY SITUATIONS AND CALLING ATTENTION TO IT AND REQUIRING UNANIMOUS VOTE TO COUNSEL, YOU MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE AWARE THAT OTHER MEMBERS OF COUNCIL HAVEN'T SEEN THIS ITEM EITHER, AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO CONSIDER IT UNLESS EVERYONE AT THE MEETING AGREES TO IT. UM IT EMPHASIZES THAT THIS WILL ONLY BE ALLOWED AS AN EXCEPTION NOT AS A RULE AND ADDING VIA GREEN SHEET AGAIN REQUIRES UNANIMOUS CONSENT OF ALL MEMBERS PRESENT OR IF IT'S A SPECIAL MEETING, ALL MEMBERS ELECTED. SO THE IDEA IS THAT COUNCIL IS IMPLEMENTING A REQUIREMENT THAT ALL ITEMS SHALL BE THOROUGHLY REVIEWED BEFORE AN ITEM GOES ON THE AGENDA. AND THAT BEFORE YOU EVEN LOOK AT THE AGENDA ITEM, YOU'LL REQUIRE PROOF THAT THIS REVIEW HAS OCCURRED. SO WHO DO YOU WANT TO REVIEW THE ITEMS? OBVIOUSLY YOU WANT THE INITIATING DEPARTMENT HEAD TO SIGN OFF THAT HE HAS THOROUGHLY REVIEWED THE ITEM. THAT ENSURES ACCOUNTABILITY AND ACCURACY AND YOU KNOW WHO IS WANTING TO BRING THIS FORWARD AND WHO WILL HAVE THE MOST DETAILED FACTUAL KNOWLEDGE REGARDING THE ISSUE BEING PROPOSED. THE NEXT ITEM. AND THIS IS ONE AREA THAT I THINK WE RELAX OFTENTIMES IN OUR LOCALITY, AND THAT IS THAT THE INITIATED DEPARTMENT HEADS WILL OFTEN TIMES NOT RUN IT THROUGH POTENTIALLY IMPACTED DEPARTMENTS. UH, ON AN ITEM THAT MAY COVER OTHER AREAS. UM. AND IF YOU DON'T DO THAT, YOU CAN OFTEN TIMES HAVE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES THAT AREN'T ALWAYS GOOD. AND SO THE DEPARTMENT HEAD WHEN HE INITIATES THE ITEM SHOULD DETERMINE WHAT OTHER DEPARTMENTS COULD BE IMPACTED. AND THEN ROUTED THROUGH THEM AND HAVE THEM SIGN OFF TO CONFIRM THAT THEY HAVE REVIEWED AND AGREE WITH THE PROPOSAL. AND THEN THIRD AFTER THE INITIATING DEPARTMENT HEAD AND IMPACTED DEPARTMENT HEADS HAVE REVIEWED IT. THE CITY ATTORNEY WOULD

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ALL ROUTING SHEETS WILL BE CIRCULATED ONLY IN PROPER ORDER . AND THAT ORDER IS ONE INITIATING DEPARTMENT TO AFFECT THE DEPARTMENT'S THREE CITY ATTORNEY AND FOUR THE CITY MANAGER. THE NEXT QUESTION YOU MAY HAVE IS WHAT IS AROUND HIM SHEET. A RALLYING SHEET IS VERY SIMPLE FORM. HERE IS A SAMPLE ROUTING SHEET FROM A LOCALITY THAT I'VE PREVIOUSLY SERVED.

THIS IS IN ADDITION TO THE DESCRIPTOR SHEET THAT YOU HAVE THAT DESCRIBES IT IN MORE DETAIL THAT YOU CURRENTLY GET. BUT THIS SIMPLY HAS A SUMMARY OF THE ITEM . BUT THE MOST IMPORTANT THING ON THE ROUNDING SHEET IS THE AREA AT THE BOTTOM WHERE THE DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE IMPACTED OR THAT HAVE INITIATED THIS, UM HAVE SIGNED OFF ON THIS. FOR EXAMPLE, THIS WAS INITIATED BY OUR ZONING ADMINISTRATOR. HE ALSO INCLUDED THE PLANNING DIRECTOR WHO SIGNED OFF ON IT.

IT THEN WENT TO THE CITY ATTORNEY WHO SIGNED OFF ON IT AND THEN WENT TO THE CITY MANAGER WHO SIGNED OFF ON IT, AND ONLY THEN ONLY AFTER EVERYONE HAS SIGNED IT DOWN TO THE CITY CLERK WHO DOESN'T SIGN THEM. SHE SIMPLY PLACES IT IN THE PACKAGE ONCE SHE CONFIRMS THAT, THAT LAST SIGNATURE THE CITY MANAGER SIGNATURE HAS OCCURRED ON THE DOCUMENT. AND IT'S THAT SIMPLE. IT IS SIMPLY A SHEET THAT SHOWS THE ROUTING. IT'S INCLUDED IN THE PACKAGE, AND SO EVERY SINGLE ITEM THAT COMES IN FRONT OF YOU, YOU WILL BE ABLE TO VERY QUICKLY LOOK AT IT AND SEE WHO INITIATED IT. WHO HAS REVIEWED IT. THE CITY ATTORNEY HAS REVIEWED IT, AND THE CITY MANAGER HAS REVIEWED IT. OKAY, LET'S TALK ABOUT THIS ITEM. THAT IS HOW YOU ENSURE THAT ALL ITEMS ARE PROPERLY REVIEWED AND THAT THERE PROPERLY VETTED THROUGH YOUR STAFF PRIOR TO CONSIDERING. SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THIS PROCESS TAKES TIME. THE IDEA THAT WE AREN'T RUNNING AROUND LIKE CHICKENS WITH THEIR HEADS CUT OFF WITH HALF BAKED ITEMS COMING BEFORE YOU FOR CONSIDERATION IS WHAT THIS IS HOPEFULLY GOING TO HELP US AVOID. BUT TO DO THIS PROCESS NEEDS TO BE ENDORSED BY CITY COUNCIL AND WE NEED TO ENCOURAGE THROUGHOUT THE ORGANIZATION FOLLOWING A METICULOUS AND METHODICAL PROCESS, THEREFORE, RULES SEVEN AND EIGHT WOULD BE AS FOLLOWS. OH, SEVEN. ALL ITEMS SUBMITTED FOR PUBLISHED AGENDA WILL BE RECEIVED BY THE CITY ATTORNEY NOT LESS THAN 10 BUSINESS DAYS PRIOR TO THE COUNCIL MEETING. THE REASON I NEED 10 BUSINESS DAYS IS BECAUSE I REALLY ONLY GET FOUR OF THOSE DAYS TO REVIEW ALL OF THESE ITEMS AND THEN GET THEM TO THE CITY MANAGER FOR RULE EIGHT. ALL ADAM'S SUBMITTED FOR PUBLISHED AGENDA WILL BE RECEIVED BY THE CITY MANAGER, NOT LESS THAN SIX BUSINESS DAYS PRIOR TO THE COUNCIL MEETING. AND SO THE REASON THE MANAGER NEEDS SIX BUSINESS DAYS IS BECAUSE, AS YOU KNOW, UM, THE AGENDA MUST BE PUBLISHED THREE WORKING DAYS BEFORE, UM THE COUNCIL MEETING OCCURS AND SO THIS TIMELINE IS VERY IMPORTANT IN ORDER TO

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SOMETIMES IT MAY FALL SHORT IF THEY HAVE ISSUES, AND I RETURNED THEIR ITEMS. AND THEY DON'T HAVE TIME TO COMPLETE THE PROCESS. AND SO THEY HAVE TO BE. ABLE TO, UM ALLOW THINGS TO MOVE TO THE NEXT MEETING IN THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES, BECAUSE AGAIN THE IDEA BEHIND THIS IS TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE NOT RUSHING ITEMS THROUGH AS HAS OCCURRED ON OCCASION. HERE. AND THEN FINALLY , THE AGENDA REVIEW IS HELD FOR AT LEAST FIVE BUSINESS DAYS PRIOR TO THE SCHEDULED MEETING BECAUSE PUBLICATION MUST OCCUR AT LEAST THREE DAYS PRIOR TO THE SCHEDULED MEETINGS, SO THAT GIVES THE CLERK A COUPLE OF DAYS TO ASSEMBLE AND MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS IN PROPER ORDER.

BEFORE SHE SENDS OUT THE AGENDAS FOR PUBLICATION. AND THEN FINALLY, THE AGENDA IS PUBLISHED THREE BUSINESS DAYS PRIOR TO THE SCHEDULED MEANING. SO THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THIS PROCESS REQUIRES A COUNCIL FORMALLY ADOPT SUPPORT OR ENDORSE. EIGHT SIMPLE RULES. THE RULES ARE SUMMARIZED ON THIS LAST LIVE RULE ONE THE CLERK SHALL PUBLISH AND DISTRIBUTE THE COUNCIL AGENDA. AT THE SAME TIME. THE NOTICE OF THE MEETING IS PUBLISHED AS REQUIRED BY LAW . SHE ALREADY DOES THIS, BUT I THINK THAT THAT SHOULD BE SOMETHING THAT'S MEMORIALIZED BECAUSE YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN DOWN THE ROAD RULE NUMBER TWO STAFF AGENDA REVIEW WILL OCCUR NO LESS THAN FIVE BUSINESS DAYS BEFORE THE MEETING. RULE NUMBER THREE. THIS IS AN IMPORTANT ITEM ITEMS NOT SUBMITTED WITHIN THE TIMELINE OF THIS PRESENTATION WILL NOT BE ADDED TO THE PUBLISHED AGENDA AND WILL NOT BE CONSIDERED EXCEPT BY GREEN SHEET. NUMBER FOUR. THE GREEN SHEET ROLL EMERGENCY ITEMS RECEIVED AFTER DEADLINES WILL BE ADDED ONLY BY FLOOR AMENDMENT BY GREEN SHEET. BRO FAR AND I SHOULD ADD TO THAT, AND THIS IS ALREADY IN THE RULES OF COUNCIL THAT YOU CAN ONLY ADD ITEMS TO THE AGENDA VIA UNANIMOUS VOTE OF MEMBERS PRESENT UNANIMOUS VOTES OF MEMBERS ELECTED FOR SPECIAL MEETINGS RULE NUMBER FIVE ALL ITEMS, INCLUDING GREEN SHEETED ITEMS MUST BE ACCOMPANIED BY A PROPERLY EXECUTED ROUTING SHEET BEFORE THEY WILL BE CONSIDERED BY COUNCIL RULE NUMBER SIX. ALL ROUTING SHEETS WILL BE CIRCULATED ONLY IN PROPER ORDER . INITIATING DEPARTMENT AFFECTED DEPARTMENTS. CITY ATTORNEY AND CITY MANAGER. RULE NUMBER SEVEN. ALL ITEMS SUBMITTED FOR PUBLISHED AGENDA MUST BE RECEIVED BY THE CITY ATTORNEY NOT LESS THAN 10 BUSINESS DAYS PRIOR TO THE COUNCIL MEETING AND FINALLY RULE NUMBER EIGHT ALL ITEMS SUBMITTED FOR PUBLISHED AGENDAS WILL BE RECEIVED BY THE CITY MANAGER, NOT LESS THAN SIX BUSINESS DAYS PRIOR TO THE COUNCIL MEETING. SO UM, AS INDICATED THIS IS REALLY MORE OF AN ADMINISTRATIVE MATTER. NOT LEGAL. ONE THERE'S NOTHING THAT SAYS LEGALLY, WE MUST FOLLOW THIS PROCESS OR ANY PROCESS OTHER THAN WHAT I MENTIONED EARLIER IN THE PRESENTATION WITH REGARD TO 2.2 37 7, THIS IS SIMPLY A SUGGESTION AND RESPONSE

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THAT'S WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE SUBSTANTIVE ISSUES AT THE WORK SESSION. SO WHEN YOU COME BACK AND YOU'RE ASKED TO VOTE YOU'VE ALREADY GOT ALL THAT STUFF OUT OF THE WAY. AND I THINK MR ALTMAN HAS INDICATED THAT'S HIS EXPERIENCE AS WELL. SO I'M HOPING AS PART OF THIS PROCESS, WE MIGHT REFINE THE WAY WE OPERATE WITH THE WORK SESSIONS, AND YOU MIGHT FIND THAT YOU GET A WHOLE LOT MORE DONE IN THOSE TWO MEETINGS THAT WE HAVE BEEN, BUT CERTAINLY THAT IS AN OPTION.

IF IT'S NOT IF IT'S SLOWING YOU DOWN IF YOU FEEL LIKE YOU NEED TO HAVE THAT ADDITIONAL MEETING , WE CAN ALWAYS ADD THAT BECAUSE JANUARY IS WHEN WE CONSIDER AMENDMENT OF THE RULES OF COUNCIL AS WELL. MR MAYOR. YES. IF I MAY, I WOULD ADD THAT IF WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE ADAMANT AS A AS A MUST DO. WHAT WE WOULD DO IS WE WOULD WORK AND SCHEDULE ONE ON 1 TO 2 ON TUES BETWEEN IF WE DIDN'T GET ON THE WORK SESSION AGENDA TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH COUNCIL ALL OF COUNCIL PRIOR TO THE REGULAR MEETING, SO WE'LL WE'LL WORK TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT SOME THINGS ARE GOING TO COME UP THAT WE HAVE TO TAKE ACTION, ONE THAT MAY NOT HAVE BEEN IN FRONT OF US. AT THE BEGINNING OF LAMONT, SO WE WILL WORK AS STAFF TO MAKE SURE WE DO THAT AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'M CONSIDERING. WITH THE CHANGE IS HOLDING OUR MONDAY'S OPEN AND ASKING STAFF THAT HAVE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA TO HOLD THEIR MONDAY'S OPENING STAFF COUNCIL HAS QUESTIONS ABOUT AGENDA ITEMS WE CAN ADDRESS THOSE PRIOR TO THE MEETING. OKAY? UM YES, BECAUSE I CAN SEE US HAVING A WHOLE LOT OF EXTRA SPECIAL MEETINGS JUST BECAUSE A LOT OF STUFF JUST NOT GONNA MAKE THE AGENDA IS THAT'S JUST THE NATURE OF THE BEAST.

COUNCILOR IN THE WILSON SMITH. THANK YOU. UM I CAN SEE YOU PUT A LOT OF TIME AND WORK INTO THIS. IT'S VERY WELL ORGANIZED. I DO HAVE SOME CONCERNS. ONE IS THE ROUTING SHEET, WHICH IS GOOD. A LOT OF COMPANIES WOULD USE A ROUTING SHEET. PRIOR. TO TECHNOLOGY BEING WHAT IT IS. UM THE ROUTING SHEET WOULD GO FROM ONE OFFICE TO THE OTHER OFFICE AND YOU HAVE SOMEBODY TO RUN IT ALL AROUND. TECHNOLOGY ALLOWS US TO DO WITH THE ROUTING. SHE DOES AND ONE CLICK OF A BUTTON. UM AND HOW WE WOULD MANAGE. THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING ELSE BUT TO SEND THAT IN AGENDA PACKET TO EVERYONE INVOLVED. AND WITH THE NOTE YOU EITHER APPROVE IT OR WE TAKE IT OFF THE AGENDA. YOU HAVE UNTIL SUCH AND SUCH A DAY. GETS IT TO EVERYBODY. GETS IT TO EVERYBODY IN ONE WOP. AND IT

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BUT THIS IS WHAT IS BEING SUGGESTED. THE ONLY WAY IT WORKS IS IF COUNCIL SUPPORTS IT AS FURTHER PRIOR REVIEW PROCESS. THERE REALLY WASN'T ONE. THERE'S NOT ONE WE MEET RIGHT BEFORE THE COUNCIL MEETING ON 20 MINUTE AGENDA REVIEW AND SAY, EVERYBODY GOT EVERYTHING. AND SO NINE TIMES OUT OF 10. I HAVEN'T SEEN IT. THE MANAGER HASN'T SEEN THERE'S REALLY NO PROCESS THAT WE CAN COMPARE THIS TO. THIS IS ACTUALLY THE FIRST EFFORT TO CREATE A STRUCTURED PROCESS.

COUNCILOR COVER. I DON'T THINK THIS THING IS GONNA WORK. OF I WANTED TO WORK. BUT I LOOK AT RULE SEVEN. ALL ITEMS SUBMITTED FOR PUBLISHED AGENDA WHAT WE RECEIVED BY THE CITY ATTORNEY, NOT LESS THAN 10 BUSINESS DAYS BEFORE THE MEETING. YEAH, WE GOT A LOT OF HOLIDAYS. AND THEY DON'T KILL LIKE COLUMBUS DAY WOULDN'T COUNT AS A BUSINESS DAY. THANKSGIVING CHRISTMAS, YOU NAME IT. AH! AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO ABOUT IT. I THINK WE HAVE A SYSTEM THAT NEEDS SOME IMPROVEMENT. UM I LIKE THE MAYOR'S SUGGESTION. THAT WE HAVE TO BUSINESS MEETINGS A MONTH.

AND WE MAKE OUR WORK SESSION MEETING ALSO A BUSINESS MEETING. UM YEAH, AND THEN IF WE MISSED THE DEADLINE FOR THE SECOND MEETING OF THE MONTH. WE CAN TAKE ACTION. ON THE FIRST MEETING MEETING OF THE NEXT MONTH. UM I THINK WE OUGHT TO TRY SOMETHING. AND SEE HOW IT WORKS. AND I'M PRETTY CONFIDENT WE WILL WANT TO TWEAK IT. BUT. MAYBE WE OUGHT TO ADOPT YOUR SUGGESTIONS. AND THE MAYOR'S PROPOSAL. BOTH. I THINK THAT WILL TAKE SOME OF THE UM OH, AWKWARDNESS OUT OF WHAT YOU ARE PROPOSING. AND WE MADE THROUGH TRIAL AND ERROR. MAKE IMPROVEMENTS AS WE GO ALONG, BUT 10 BUSINESS DAYS BEFORE MEETINGS, ONE AWFUL LONG TIME.

AND IT DOES SEEM LIKE A LONG TIME, BUT THE WHOLE IDEA BEHIND THIS IS YOU KNOW, THE CHICKEN SLIDE WAS THERE FOR A PURPOSE, AND THAT IS IT WANTS US TO SLOW DOWN, TAKE A BREATH AND THOROUGHLY REVIEW THESE WE DID IT IN WINCHESTER. I THINK THE MANAGER SAID THEY WERE PREPARING ITEMS IN HOPEWELL. THE BEFORE THE MEETING THAT THEY WERE HAVING THEM SO THEY WERE PROBABLY 14 DAYS OUT. AND THAT'S IMPORTANT. BECAUSE YOU KNOW YOU YOU NEED TO HAVE TIME TO REVIEW AND DIGEST. THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THE PROCESS. BUT AGAIN, THE SUGGESTION IS COUNCIL ADOPTS THE RESOLUTION. WE KNOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TWEAK THIS AS WE DO IT, BUT UNTIL YOU HAVE THE SYSTEM IN PLACE WE'RE NOT GOING TO KNOW WHERE WE MAY NEED TO CHANGE IT. AND SO UNTIL WE'RE

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SO WHEN YOU SHOW UP AT THAT AGENDA, MEETING WHETHER IT BEING FOR THE WORK SESSION, EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO HAVE THAT PACKET NEEDS TO BE THERE. AND THEN THE WAY WE DO IT NOW WE HAVE THE WORK SESSION. WHICH WE COME IN, AND WE GIVE A BRIEF PRESENTATION, BUT YOU CAN GIVE A LITTLE BIT MORE IN DEPTH, BUT THAT'S THE OPPORTUNITY IN THAT TIMEFRAME TO CORRECT MATTERS AS IT COMES TO THE NEXT TO THE FORMAL MEETING FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING, BUT WE SHOULD BE SHOWING UP AT AN AGENDA MEETING WITH OUR PACKET READY AND COMPLETED TO MAKE THE LIFE OF THE CLERK. MUCH EASIER, AND SHE'S NOT CHASING PEOPLE DOWN TO GET INFORMATION THAT'S NEEDED SO I MEAN, THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT WE CAN DO INTERNALLY BETWEEN THE THREE OF US FROM PROCESS PERSPECTIVE AND TRY, BUT ONE OF THE REASONS WE THOUGHT ABOUT IMPLEMENTING THIS AT THE BEGINNING OF NEXT YEAR WAS WE HAVE ONE MEETING IN DECEMBER, SO THAT GIVES EVERYBODY A CHANCE.

TO THEN GET INTO THE 10 DAY ROUTINE. BECAUSE WE GOTTA BREAK. WE DON'T HAVE TWO MEANINGS REAL QUICK. WE GOTTA BREAK BEFORE THE FIRST MEETING. SO THAT'S WHY WE LOOKED AT IMPLEMENTING AND THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR. AND AGAIN . THIS IS GONNA BE A RULE, BUT YOU KNOW, AND WE'RE CERTAINLY GOING TO EXPECT THAT THE STAFF COMPLY WITH IT, BUT IT'S NOT GONNA BE THE END OF THE WORLD IF SOMEBODY MISSES THAT DEADLINE BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE GREEN SHEET OPTION, IF SOMETHING MUST BE ADDED TO THE AGENDA. YOU'RE GONNA ADD IT TO THE AGENDA AS YOU'VE ALWAYS DONE. THE ONLY DIFFERENCES WILL PUT A GREEN SHEET ON TOP OF IT, AND IT WILL BE CALLED TO EVERYONE'S ATTENTION THAT HEY, THIS IS AN ADD ON ITEM. UM SO YOU KNOW AGAIN. I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO KNOW WHAT THE KINKS ARE UNTIL WE TRY IT, BUT OKAY? IT'S LUCAS.

BASED OFF OF THE COMMENTS THAT ARE MADE, UM AGAIN. WE DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE A PROCESS. IT'S JUST A PROCESS THAT I GUESS BASICALLY JUST HAS BEEN MADE. BASED OFF OF THE YEARS THAT I HAVE BEEN HERE AND JUST AS I TOLD THE CITY MANAGER IN THE CITY ATTORNEY IN THE MEETING, WE HAD THE BIGGEST ISSUE. AND PROBLEM IS JUST DEPARTMENT HEADS OR EVERYONE GETTING IN THEIR ITEMS IN A TIMELY MANNER. IT'S EITHER AND EVERYBODY HAS A DEADLINE, WHICH I HAVE CREATED A CALENDAR THAT HAS ALL THE COUNCIL MEETINGS, COUNCIL WORK SESSIONS AND THE DEADLINE DATES OF EVERY MEETING WHEN THE AGENDA ITEM IS SUPPOSED TO BE DO OF COURSE, I GET THOSE DOCUMENTS EITHER. AFTER THAT DATE OR SOMEBODY HAS FORGOT SOMETHING, OR SOMETIMES IT MIGHT BE A DEVELOPER. THEY'RE WORKING ON THAT ISSUE AND CLOSING AN AGREEMENT THAT MADE PROLONGING BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO PUT IT IN A PACKET BECAUSE IT'S NOT FINISHED. I UNDERSTAND IT. BUT AS I'VE TOLD THEM, THE BIGGEST ISSUE IS GETTING EVERYTHING IN IN A TIMELY FASHION, WHICH IS ALWAYS AND HAS NEVER CHANGED THE DAY AFTER THAT COUNCIL MEETING PRIOR TO WIN THE NEXT MEETING IS SUPPOSED TO BE HELD. SO SOMETIMES I'M GETTING ITEMS ON THURSDAY. I TRIED TO PUT THE PACKAGE TOGETHER ON THURSDAY AND AT LEAST GET IT OUT TO THE CITY MANAGER AND ATTORNEY AND THE DEPARTMENT HEADS WHO SUBMITTED ISLES, WHICH IS BASICALLY LITERALLY ALL THE DEPARTMENT HEADS, EVEN IF THEY DIDN'T PUT AN ITEM ON THERE. BUT THURSDAY OR FRIDAY. FRIDAY AT THE LATEST BY FIVE O'CLOCK AND YES, SOMETIMES I AM SENDING THE PACKET AFTER FIVE PM SO I AM WORKING AT HOME TO PUT THE PACKAGE TOGETHER AND MAKE SURE IT'S DONE BUT GIVE THEM A DRAFT COPY OF IT PRIOR TO OUR AGENDA MEETING ON THAT MONDAY, WHICH SOMETIMES DUE TO A HOLIDAY, OR THE MOST OF THE STAFF BEING OUT, MAYBE A TUESDAY MORNING, BUT TUESDAY IS THE LATEST THAT WE DO HAVE OUR AGENDA MEETINGS, AND WE DID. AS NOTED AUGUST 2ND. WE DID NOT HAVE AN AGENDA MEETING THAT WAS A SPECIAL MEETING THAT CAME ABOUT, UM THERE WAS A QUICK TURNAROUND, SO WE DIDN'T HAVE AN AGENDA MEETING FOR THAT ONE. BUT OUT OF ALL OF THEM. THAT'S THE ONLY MEANING THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE ONE FOR. BUT WHATEVER YOU GUYS CHOOSE, UM FOR IT. COUNCILOR MYERS. WAS THE CLERK INCLUDED IN THIS PROCESS. FOR THESE RULES. THEY WERE CREATED BEFOREHAND, BUT I DIDN'T MEET WITH THE

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BUT WITH RESPECT TO THE ONLY. I GUESS DELAY OF THE PROCESS THAT YOU DO IS THE INFORMATION THAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO RECEIVE IN ORDER TO PUT YOUR PACKETS TOGETHER. SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THE CITY MANAGER NEEDS TO DEMAND FROM HIS STAFF. FROM EXCELLENCE WITH RESPECT TO PROVIDING YOU WHAT IS NEEDED. IN ORDER TO PROVIDE COUNSEL GOOD INFORMATION IN ORDER TO MAKE THESE DECISIONS. NOW I'M GONNA I'M GONNA STEP OUT HERE A LITTLE BIT FURTHER RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE I'M I'M STILL HAVING A PROBLEM WITH WHO IS DO WRITING THESE ORDINANCES? AND WHO SHOULD BE WRITING THESE ORDINANCES? THAT'S THE PROBLEM. I HAD. UM BECAUSE WE ARE NOW, UM. REDOING ORDINANCES THAT WE'VE HAD PRIOR BECAUSE THERE WASN'T THIS IS DIDN'T EXIST. AND THAT'S A PROBLEM FOR ME THAT WE'RE HAVING TO GO BACK AND RE VOTE. AND THERE MAY BE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN'T REMEMBER THAT WE MAY HAVE TURNED IN. AND IT MAY ALL OF A SUDDEN, NOW BE AVAILABLE TO THE PERSON THAT WE DENIED BEFORE BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANY REAL TRACKING SYSTEM WITH RESPECT TO WHAT HAS TRANSPIRED FOR THESE LAST FEW YEARS, SO I NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHO WAS LEGALLY OBLIGATED. TO WRITE THESE MOTION. THAT'S WHAT I NEED TO KNOW. I MEAN THESE ORDINANCES AND RESOLUTIONS. IT SHOULD NOT BE THE CLERK. SO, PLEASE, MR CITY ATTORNEY. TELL ME WHO WAS SUPPOSED TO DO THESE ORDINANCES, IS IT THE DIRECTORS, THE CITY MANAGER UM WHO WAS SUPPOSED TO DO THAT AND WHO WAS SUPPOSED TO REVIEW IT, WHICH I WOULD THINK THAT YOUR DEPARTMENT IS SUPPOSED TO REVIEW IT. BUT IF YOU CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION FOR ME SO I CAN UNDERSTAND. UM LITTLE LEGALITY OF OUR DECISION. BASED ON THE ORDINANCE AND THE RESOLUTION THAT'S PRESENTED AND THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT. THAT'S THAT'S HOW WE ARRIVED AT THIS POINT. AND YOU'RE RIGHT. THE CLERK ISN'T DRAFTING ORDINANCES . SHE SHOULDN'T BE HER. HER JOB IS TO PUT THE AGENDA PACKAGE TOGETHER. SHE'S SUPPOSED TO MAINTAIN THEM AFTER YOU ADOPT THEM, BUT SHE DOESN'T HAVE THE KNOWLEDGE SKILLS OR ABILITIES TO DRAFT THEM. WHAT SHOULD HAPPEN AND WHAT? I DON'T SAY SHE DOESN'T BECAUSE SHE HAS OKAY, AND THEY'VE BEEN THEY'VE BEEN. LEGALLY DOCUMENTED. SO LET'S NOT SAY WHAT SHE CAN AND CANNOT DO. LET'S JUST STICK TO THE FACTS OF WHAT THE ORDINANCE. OKAY SO LET ME ANSWER THE QUESTION. THE CLERK DOES NOT, UM, PREPARE ORDINANCES. THAT'S NOT WHAT THE CLERK DOES. SHE MAINTAINS THEM AFTER YOU ADOPT THEM, BUT SHE DOESN'T PREPARE THEM WHAT SHOULD BE HAPPENING AND WHAT'S NOT HAPPENING IN SOME INSTANCES, IS THE DEPARTMENT HEAD WHEN HE'S MAKING A PROPOSAL SHOULD PREPARE DRAFT ORDINANCE AND THEN HAVE IT REVIEWED BY MY OFFICE.

UNFORTUNATELY THERE RATHER NOT BEING PREPARED OR THEY'RE COMING BEFORE YOU WITHOUT ME EVER HAVING SEEN OR KNOWN ABOUT THEM , AND THAT'S WHY THIS PROCESS IS BEING PROPOSED BECAUSE YOU ARE HAVING A GO BACK AND RE ADOPT STUFF THAT YOU'VE APPROVED AND THAT'S BECAUSE THERE WAS NO ORDINANCE IN THE PACKAGE BECAUSE NOBODY REVIEWED IT OTHER THAN DEPARTMENT HAD THAT PREPARED IT BEFORE IT GOT IN FRONT OF YOU. SO THAT'S WHAT THIS WHOLE PROCESS IS ABOUT. AND WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED IN MY EXPERIENCE HAS WORKED ELSEWHERE. THE CONCERN IS IF WE SPECULATIVELY CHANGE IT BEFORE WE TRY IT, WE MAY MAKE IT FAIL BY DOING THAT. SO MY SUGGESTION IS, IF YOU THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA, ADOPT THE RESOLUTION WILL TRY IT WILL FIX IT. IF IT NEEDS TO BE TWEAKED. IF YOU'RE NOT INCLINED TO DO IT, JUST DON'T ADOPT IT, BUT I THINK WHEN YOU START TRYING TO MOVE PARTS THINKING, WELL, MAYBE WE SHOULD HAVE THIS MANY DAYS. MAYBE WE SHOULD HAVE THIS. I THINK YOU POTENTIALLY STAND TO MAKE IT NOT WORK BECAUSE IT'S WORKED BEFORE ELSEWHERE, AND WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO MAKE IT WORK. AND IF WE CAN'T, THEN YOU KNOW WE CAN ALWAYS CHANGE IT. I'M GOING TO SAY THAT IT IS WORKED IN THE PAST, BUT APPARENTLY HERE RECENTLY. IT'S NOT WORKING, AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND. I AGREE WITH WITH COUNCILMAN CUT EFFORTS WITH RESPECT TO THE DAYS AND THE, UH, IN THE TIMES, BUT I HAVE TO DISAGREE THAT THERE IS A PROCESS. AND THAT THE MANAGER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR HAVING HIS DIRECTORS TO PROVIDE THE INFORMATION THAT IS NEEDED. AND SO IF YOU FOLLOW THROUGH WITH THE PROCESS. OR ANY PROTOCOL

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AND WHERE IS WHERE I'M CONFUSED AT WHERE YOU GET INTO THE COUNCIL MEMBERS OF PUTTING THINGS ON THE AGENDA AND PUTTING THINGS ON THE FLOOR, SO I MEAN, I STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE'RE LOOKING FOR SOMETHING THAT'S ALREADY IN PROCESS. WHATS HAS BEEN A REALLY HELPFUL DISCUSSION AND THE CITY ATTORNEY'S PUT A GREAT DEAL OF THOUGHT AND EFFORT INTO THIS. I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE ADOPT THESE. UM PROPOSED PROTOCOLS. THAT THE CITY ATTORNEY HAS SUGGESTED. AND THAT WE EFFECTIVE JANUARY ONE OF 2023, AS THE CITY MANAGER SUGGESTED. AND THAT, AS YOU SUGGESTED, WE HAVE TO BUSINESS MEETINGS A MONTH. AND WE SEE HOW IT WORKS. AND, UH, IF WE DON'T LIKE IT WILL CHANGE IT. MOTION COUNSELING COVER. YES, SIR. OKAY COUNSELOR, WILSON SMITH 2ND 2ND DISCUSSION FROM HIM FROM MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. NOT, MAN. I'M GLAD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROAD. COUNCIL MEMBER, CUTHBERT. COUNCIL MEMBER WILSON SMITH. I COUNCILOR BERT MYERS.

SOME OF WESTBROOK. REMEMBER HILLS ABSENT VICE MARY SMITH LEE. PERM. MOTIONS PASSED. NEXT IS ITEM B CONSIDERATION OF RESOLUTION RECOMMENDED THAT THE CITY OF PETERSBURG, INCLUDING HIS 2023 LEGISLATIVE AGENDA, REQUEST TO ADD TO THE CITY OF PETERSBURG TO THE LIST OF LOCALITIES ELIGIBLE TO RECEIVE FIRES FROM THE TOBACCO REGION REVITALIZATION COMMISSION AND TOBACCO REGION OPPORTUNITY FIGHT. MR MOORE. THANK YOU, SIR. GOOD EVENING, MISS. MR MAYOR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. UM THIS IS COMING FROM OUR E V. A. WE'RE ASKING THAT CONSIDERATION BE FOR HAVING EXCUSE ME. UM. REQUEST TO GO IN THE LEGISLATIVE AGENDA THAT WE ADDED TO THE TOBACCO REGION REVITALIZATION COMMISSION , AS YOU KNOW WHEN THAT ORIGINALLY WAS CREATED. THAT WAS DURING THE HOUSING DELICATE TERMS OF, UM, DELEGATE THE BOAR. PETERSBURG'S HISTORY IS WELL ALIGNED WITH THE TOBACCO INDUSTRY, AND WE WOULDN'T HAVE SAID THAT THAT YOU WOULD CONSIDER APPROVING THIS. TO MOVE FORWARD. OKAY? COUNCILOR WILSON SMITH MOVE VICE MAYOR SMITH LEE SECOND MADAM CLERK, YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROOM. REMEMBER CUTHBERT AH, COUNCIL MEMBER, WILSON SMITH. I REMEMBER MYERS COUNCIL MEMBER WESTBROOK COUNCIL MEMBER HILL. HMM VICE MAYOR SMITH LEE PERM FAST. NEXT IS ITEM 14 C CONSIDERATION FOR RESOLUTION RECOMMENDING THAT THE CITY OF PETERSBURG CONDUCTED TRAFFIC STUDY TO RESEARCH VEHICLE OR TRAFFIC ON EAST WASHINGTON STREET AND HE'S WHIPPED STREETS TO BE CHANGED FROM ONE WAY TO WEIGH FROM CREATOR ROAD TO SYCAMORE STREET. MR MOORE? YES, SIR. THANK YOU, MR MAYOR. MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. AS YOU KNOW, THIS HAS BEEN STUDIED BEFORE. BUT AS WE GO MOVING FORWARD WITH ALL THE CHANGES THAT ARE COMING, WE WOULD LIKE TO DO THIS AGAIN. I'VE GOT TWO STUDIES THAT ARE CURRENTLY WITH THEM. OFFICE WE WOULD WORK CLOSELY WITH PUBLIC WORKS, MR JOHNSON. FIND OUT DETAILS WHAT WE NEED TO DO. AND

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COUNCIL AND COVER BAD WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR. IF WE GET A SECOND, I'LL COME BACK TO YOU FOR DISCUSSION. OKAY? ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR. MY COUNSELOR, WINSTON SMITH.

PROVEN THE RESOLUTION TO CONDUCT A TRAFFIC STUDY. THANKS MR SMITH . LEE 2ND 2ND RIGHT THERE.

COUNCILMAN COVER UM, MR MOORE. WHAT'S WHY NOT? EXTEND THE STUDY THE FULL LENGTH OF BOTH WASHINGTON AND WITH US I MEAN, JUST CLOSE YOUR EYES AND IMAGINE THE INTERSECTION OF AH! SYCAMORE AND WITH THE SECOND INTERSECTION OF SYCAMORE AND WASHINGTON. IT'S GONNA GO FROM TO A. STARTING TO CREATE A ROAD. THEN WHEN HE GETS TO SYCAMORE, IT'S GONNA. REVERT TO ONE WAY SO THAT, FOR EXAMPLE, LET'S TAKE A WASHINGTON STREET. AND WASHINGTON STREET WILL BE TWO WAY FROM CRADLE ROAD TO SYCAMORE STREET. AT LEAST THAT WILL BE THE STUDY. AND I REALIZE THIS IS JUST A STUDY, BUT CERTAINLY WE'RE NOT GONNA GO BEYOND THE STUDY. SO LET'S SAY WE DO THIS STUDY AS PROPOSED.

AND WE DECIDED WE LIKE THE FINDINGS AND WE WANT TO ADOPT THE FINDINGS. SO THEN WE WOULD MOVE TO CONVERT. UH, WASHINGTON STREET. FROM TWO WAYS SORRY FROM ONE WAY TO WEIGH FROM CRATER ROAD WEST TO SYCAMORE STREET. BUT THEN ONCE YOU GET TO SYCAMORE STREET IT IS. GONNA GO TO ONE WAY. AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE THE SAME RACE TRACK THAT WE GOT NOW GOING BY THE AUTOMATICS REGIONAL GOVERNORS SCHOOL. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE SAME WASTELAND THAT WE'VE GOT NOW. IN THE 809 100. 1011 100 BLOCK OF WEST WASHINGTON STREET. WHY NOT? WHAT'S WHAT'S THE REASON FOR DO BUT LIMITING THE STUDY TO JUST HALF OF EACH OF THESE ROADS. THANK YOU, MR CRAWFORD. UM, GREAT QUESTION. SOME OF THE INITIAL STUDIES PRIOR TO THIS HAD BEEN JUST CONCENTRATED IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA RIGHT AT OFF THE EXIT SINCE THEY DEALT A LOT WITH TRAFFIC CIRCLES FOR THAT REASON, ALSO IN THE BACKGROUND, THERE IS A CONSIDERATION FOR SIMILAR CHANGES TO EXTEND PORTIONS OF THIS TO WASHINGTON AND WITH STREET SO WE WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF THAT, SIR. I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND YOU'D BE SUPPORTIVE OF WHAT? EXTENDING IT OUT DOWN FURTHER DOWN OUT FOR THE STUDY AREA. FOR THE ENTIRE LENGTH OF BOTH STREETS. ALRIGHT, WELL, I MAKE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION THAT WE UH, TUNE IN HERE. WE RECOMMEND. THAT THE CITY OF PETERSBURG CONDUCTED TRAFFIC STUDY. TO RESEARCH OF VEHICULAR TRAFFIC ON WASHINGTON STREET AND WITH STREET BE CHANGED FROM ONE WAY TO WEIGH FOR THE ENTIRE LENGTH OF BOTH STREETS. RIGHT? MR MAYOR , IF I MAY, MR COOPER, WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR, I BELIEVE WAS A PART OF THE STUDY FROM THE STATE. DOES THIS HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH WHAT? THE STATE STUDIES? THERE'S A STUDY BEING DONE BY THE STATE. ABOUT CONVERTING WITH AND WATCHED IN TWO WAYS. THERE'S BEEN PAST ONES I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH WANTS TO CONDUCT IT NOW. ALL RIGHT. FAIRLY IS PAYING FOR THIS STUDY.

OR IS THE STATE GONNA PAY FOR THIS STUDY? THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET OUT. AND I WILL SECOND YOUR MOTION, BUT I'M TRYING TO FIND OUT YEAH, OKAY. THANK YOU, MR MAXWELL. WE WOULD DO I WOULD WORK WITH MR JOHNSON PUBLIC WORKS TO GO AHEAD AND GET THE DETAILS. AND THEN WE WOULD SEEK GRANTS TO DO THAT WORK. ALRIGHT, COUNSELOR, MYERS. I'M A SECOND IST CHARLIE, BUT I'M

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AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT AGAIN, A LOT OF THAT TIME FRAME THAT THE BUILDING WAS CLOSED. SO AGAIN, THERE'S BEEN TALK OF POSSIBLY PUTTING HEALTH CLINICS WITHIN THE BUILDING. UH SPACE USED FOR DIFFERENT ENTITIES WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. SO THAT'S HOW WE ADDRESS THAT AGAIN. THIS IS A DRAFT, SO IF YOU WANT US TO CHANGE SOMETHING, OR REDIRECT THE QUESTION, AS WE WOULD SEND THAT FORWARD MORE THAN HAPPY TO DO THAT AND RESUBMIT THAT FOR YOUR REVIEW. I JUST THINK THAT THAT, UM THE ANSWER THAT WE GIVE TO THAT SECTION DOESN'T REALLY ADDRESS THEIR SECTION DOESN'T DRILL REALLY ADDRESS WHAT IT'S ASKING FOR. HMM. AND YOU SAID THERE HAS BEEN TALK ABOUT A HEALTH CLINIC THERE. UM SO WHO'S WHO'S TALKING ABOUT IT? THERE HAVE BEEN SOME INITIAL MEETINGS

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MYERS. VICE MAYOR SMITH LEE SECOND RIGHT, MADAM CLERK. YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROAD. COUNCILOR BERT WILSON SMITH. I REMEMBER MYERS. COUNCIL MEMBER WESTBROOK. MARY SMITH LEE. I FIND IN FACT, NEXT IS THANK YOU. THANK YOU. CONSIDERATION OF REAPPOINTMENT TO THE DISTRICT 19 COMMUNITY SERVICES BOARD. CURRENTLY THERE ARE THREE POSITIONS ON THIS BOARD. UM THERE WERE ONLY TWO MEMBERS, WHICH IS MR GARY TALLY AND DAPHNE TURNER. BOTH OF THEIR TERMS HAVE EXPIRED, AND THEY BOTH WISH TO BE REAPPOINTED TO THIS BOARD. WHICH I'VE ALSO EMAILED THEIR APPLICATIONS, WHICH WERE FROM THE PAST. ALSO EMAILS. I MEAN, I'M SORRY, PRINTED OUT THE RECENT APPLICATION FROM MR TALLY AS WELL THAT HE SUBMITTED. ALRIGHT, COUNSELOR, MYERS. I MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT THE APPLICATION 12 3 ATTITUDES. FOR THE TWO AFRICANS. ALRIGHT VICE MAYOR SMITH LEE SECOND. ALRIGHT, MADAM CLUTCH. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. REMEMBER KUPFERBERG COUNCIL MEMBER WILSON SMITH, I COUNCIL MEMBER MYERS COUNCIL MEMBER WESTBROOK. VICE MAYOR SMITH LEE MAYOR PERM.

MOTIONS PASSED. NEXT IS ITEM 15 CITY MANAGERS REPORT BLESS YOU. REPORT THIS EVENING, MR MAYOR, ALRIGHT, NEXT BUSINESS REPORTS FROM THE CLERK MISS LUCAS. I HAVE NO ITEMS. OKAY NEXT IS BUSINESS REPORTS FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY. NO REPORT, MR MAYOR. OKAY NEXT IS ITEM 18 ADJOURNMENT. ALL IN FAVOR. SPAI

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