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ALRIGHT THIS ADJOURNS AS SPECIAL CALLED CLOSED SESSION NEXT WEEK, ROLLING RIGHT INTO OUR REGULAR

[1. Roll Call]

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SCHEDULE. JANUARY 17TH CITY COUNCIL MEETING. UM GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. WE'RE READY TO GET STARTED. MADAM CLERK. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. COUNCIL MEMBER COMFORT I'M SORRY. BACK UP. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBERS. JONES YEAH, REMEMBER SMITH LEE PRESENT COUNSEL NUMBER. MYERS NUMBER WESTBROOK, VICE MAYOR HILL PERM HERE. THANK YOU. NEXT ITEM IS OPENING PRAYER VICE MAYOR HERE WITH LEADERS IN OPEN PRAYER. LET US PRAY. THEY HAVE IN THE FATHER'S ONCE AGAIN WE COME BEFORE YOU. FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU. FOR ALL THAT MANY GIFTS AND BLESSINGS THAT YOU HAVE BESTOWED UPON US. LORD, WE ASK THAT BLESSINGS UPON THIS COUNCIL HEAVENLY FATHER. THAT WE WILL USE WISDOM LIKE SOLOMON HAVING A FATHER TO HELP GOVERN YOUR CITY. HAVING A FATHER. WE ASK THAT BLESSINGS UPON OUR CITIZENS HAVING THE FATHER THAT YOU WOULD KEEP THEM SAFE FROM ALL HER HOME AND DANGER. WE ASK THAT YOU WOULD DO THE SAME FOR OUR FIRST RESPONDERS HAVING A FATHER. BE WITH OUR POLICE OFFICERS ARE FIREFIGHTERS. I AM S E. M. T S AS WELL AS HAVING FATHER. HAVING A FATHER WE ASKED, ESPECIALLY OR NOT IT UPON THIS CITY AND A SPECIAL WAY. WE'RE STARTING A NEW YEAR OFF HAVING A FATHER. WE HAVE A LOT OF HOURS AND AFARI A LOT OF PROJECTS. HAVING A FATHER . WE ASK THAT YOU WILL WILL BE DONE IN ALL OF THOSE THINGS. WE ASKED THAT WE WILL THAT YOU WILL GET THE GLORY AND ALL THAT WE DO AND WE'LL BE ABLE. CAREFUL TO GET YOUR NAME. PRAISE. IS IN YOUR DARLING SON. JESUS CHRIST. NAME WE PRAY AND WE THANK YOU. AMEN. AMEN. ASKING EVERYONE, PLEASE STAND AND JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. PLEASURE LEADERS TO THE FLAG. THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD. LIBERTY AND JUSTICE. THIS ITEM FOR DETERMINATION OF PRESENCE OF A QUORUM. THERE IS A QUORUM. THE

[4. Determination of the Presence of a Quorum]

[5. Proclamations/Recognitions/Presentation of Ceremonial Proclamations]

NEXT ITEM. FIVE PROCLAMATIONS RECOGNITIONS PRESENTATION OF CEREMONIAL PROCLAMATIONS. UM TONIGHT WE HAVE A PROCLAMATION FOR RECOGNIZING THE 50TH ANNIVERSARY CELEBRATION.

DESIGNATED MARTIN LUTHER KING JR DAY IN THE CITY OF PETERSBURG. IT STATES, WHEREAS DR MIND, LUTHER KING JR DEVOTED HIS LIFE TO ADVANCE EQUALITY. SOCIAL JUSTICE AND OPPORTUNITY FOR ALL WHILE ASKING ALL AMERICANS TO WORK TOWARD BUILDING A MORE PERFECT UNION. AND WHEREAS DR KING'S TEACHINGS CONTINUE TO GUIDE AND INSPIRE US AND ADDRESSING CHALLENGES AND CHANGES IN OUR CITY, AND WHEREAS IN 1973 PETERSBURG CITY COUNCIL APPROVED AN ORDINANCE NUMBER 68 68 DESIGNATING JANUARY 15TH AS AN ANNUAL HOLIDAY FOR THE CITY OF PETERSBURG AND ITS EMPLOYEES AND COMMEMORATION OF THE BIRTH OF DR MARTIN LUTHER KING JR. AND WHEREAS THE YEAR 2023 MARKS THE 50TH ANNIVERSARY OF PETERSBURG, BECOMING THE FIRST LOCALITY TO OFFICIALLY CELEBRATE DR KING'S BIRTHDAY. AND WHEREAS PETERSBURG CITY COUNCIL THANKS, FORMER COUNCILMAN ROYAL MOLLOHAN'S FOR LEADING THE WAY WITH MEMBERS OF THE 1973 CITY COUNCIL AND OFFICIALLY RECOGNIZING AND HONORING THE LIFE AND WORK OF DR KING. PETERSBURG CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS IN 1973 INCLUDED MAYOR HERMAN'S FATHER, ROY, VICE MARRIED DONALD HAUSER. COUNCILWOMAN FLORENCE FARLEY.

COUNCILMAN ROY HEINZ COUNCILMAN CLYDE JOHNSON. COUNCILMAN JOHN SLATE AND COUNCILMAN JOHN VAN LANDING HAM. AND WHEREAS THE KING HOLIDAY AND DAY OF SERVICE OFFICERS THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONTINUE TO GIVE BACK TO PETERSBURG AND MAKING ONGOING COMMITMENT TO SERVICE THROUGHOUT THE YEAR NOW THEREFORE US, SAMUEL PAM, BY VIRTUE OF THE AUTHORITY VESTED ME AS MAYOR OF THE CITY OF PETERSBURG, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM THE MEMBERS OF THE 1973 PETERSBURG CITY COUNCIL RECOGNIZED FOR BEING THE FIRST TO HONOR DR MARTIN LUTHER KING JR BY ESTABLISHING AN OFFICIAL LOCAL HOLIDAY TO CELEBRATE HIS BIRTHDAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, UM MR CROCKER HERE.

YES WAYNE, COME ON UP HERE. WE'RE GOING TO GIVE THIS TO YOUTUBE TO HANG UP IN THE LIBRARY.

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NEXT IS ITEM SIX RESPONSES TO PREVIOUS PUBLIC INFORMATION PERIOD. YES. POSTED ON COUNCIL

[7. Approval of Consent Agenda (to include minutes of previous meetings)]

COMMUNICATES. UM ITEMS. SEVEN IS APPROVED OF CONSENT AGENDA TO INCLUDE MINUTES OF PREVIOUS MEETINGS ITEM A CONSIDERATION OF AN APPROPRIATION AMOUNT O FROM A DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY FOR THE CITY OF PETERSBURG'S LITERAL PREVENTION AND RECYCLING PROGRAM.

ACTIVITIES FOR FY 23 1ST READING. THOSE ARE ALL THE ITEMS, WAGONS AND AGENDA. UM COUNCILOR MYERS. RIGHT? COUNCILMAN JONES. A SECOND. ALRIGHT. MADAME CLAIRE, CAN YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? COUNCILOR MAKO EXPERT COUNCIL MEMBER JONES. I REMEMBER SMITH LEE. I REMEMBER MYERS NUMBER WESTBROOK , VICE MAYOR HILL PINE PAST. ALL RIGHT. NEXT ITEM. A OFFICIAL

[8. Official Public Hearings]

PUBLIC HEARINGS. ITEM EIGHT A PUBLIC HEARING ON CONSIDERATION OF ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A TWO YEAR LEASE AGREEMENT BETWEEN MY WIFE REAL ESTATE LLC IN THE CITY OF PETERSBURG FOR EMERGENCY TELECOMMUNICATIONS EQUIPMENT, CABLING AND ANTENNA LOCATED ON THE EXTERIOR AND THEN THE INTERIOR OF THE PROPERTY. AT 30 FRANKLIN STREET. THE WILLIAMS GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR COUNCIL MANAGER. YES, THIS, UH THIS ITEM IS FOR THE EMERGENCY COMMUNICATION EQUIPMENT THAT'S LOCATED AT 30 FRANKLIN STREET.

AND THIS IS A LEAST THAT COVERS THOSE THAT PARTICULAR. THOSE PARTICULAR PIECES OF EQUIPMENT CABLING. AND ALL THE NECESSARY. AND REQUIRED PARTS AND PIECES. OKAY? ALRIGHT. THANK YOU, MR WILLIAMS. THIS IS THE OFFICIAL PUBLIC HEARINGS OR THE ONE WHO WANTS TO COMMENT ON THE CONSIDERATION OF THE ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE TWO YEAR LEASE AGREEMENT BETWEEN MY WIFE HOT REAL ESTATE LLC IN THE CITY OF PETERSBURG FOR THE EMERGENCY TELECOMMUNICATIONS EQUIPMENT. MRS BARBARA RUDOLPH. GOOD EVENING COUNCIL RUDOLPH 16 75 MOUNT VERNON STREET. I HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS ONE FIRST TO START WITH, UM I DIDN'T SEE THIS. THIS PUBLIC HEARING ITEM ON EARLIER CONSENT AGENDA IF YOU LOOK AT MOST OF THE OTHER OFFICIAL PUBLIC HEARINGS ON THIS LIST THEY WERE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA AT THE LAST MEETING, BUT I'VE NEVER SEEN THIS ONE BEFORE. SO KIND OF QUESTIONING HOW IT CAME OUT TO BE A PUBLIC HEARING.

I COULDN'T FIND ANYTHING WHERE IT HAD COME UP BEFORE. UM. I GUESS THAT'S A LEGAL QUESTION FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY, BUT, UM RESPONDING TO WHAT'S IN THE PACKAGE. THERE WAS SOMETHING IN THERE. I THINK IT MENTIONED 67 6008 SOMETHING ABOUT THAT. WHICH MADE IT SOUND LIKE MAYBE THAT THE THIS EQUIPPED SOME OF THIS EQUIPMENT OR THE ANTENNA OR THE CABLING OR WHATEVER IT WAS INSTALLED IN THE BUILDING THEN, BUT IT'S NOT CLEAR TO ME THAT THAT'S WHAT IT IS. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS A NEW LEASE. GOING FORWARD OR IF THIS IS A CONTINUATION OF SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS IN THAT BUILDING. BECAUSE UM, THERE NEEDS TO BE MORE OF A MORE INFORMATION ON WHAT ALTERNATIVES? ARE THERE ALTERNATIVES? IS THIS. LIKE I SAID, IS IT NEW OR IS IT A CONTINUATION? AND I MEAN NOT THE SAME CONCERN COMES UP. AS DID SEVERAL MONTHS AGO WHEN THE CITY UM, DECIDED TO LEASE SPACE. IN THAT BUILDING FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND OTHER PARTS OF CITY GOVERNMENT IS SINCE COUNSELOR MYERS IS THE BUILDING RENTAL MANAGER. UM IT'S QUESTIONABLE WHY THE CITY IS DOING BUSINESS. WITH THIS THIS PARTICULAR BUILDING OWNER. UM SO I THINK. I THINK THOSE WOULD BE GOOD GOOD THINGS FOR THE CITY COUNCIL TO CONSIDER. IF THE EQUIPMENT DOES IT HAVE TO STAY THERE. ARE THERE OTHER ARE THERE OTHER PLACES THAT COULD BE? WE JUST DON'T KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT IT. I MEAN, IF IT'S PERMANENTLY INSTALLED IN THAT BUILDING, AND IT CAN'T BE MOVED. THAT'S ONE THING. BUT IF THERE'S SOME DISCRETION AND PUTTING AND GOING SOMEWHERE ELSE WITH IT AND ELIMINATING THIS PERCEIVED

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CONFLICT OF INTEREST. EVEN IF IT'S PERHAPS NOT FIT, YOU KNOW, ON SOME LIST OF CONFLICTS OF INTEREST. IT GIVES THAT PERCEPTION, PARTICULARLY SINCE THAT THE BUSINESS HAS BEEN DONE BEFORE. I THINK ALL OF THOSE ARE ARE CONCERNED THAN THE OTHER. ONE OTHER THING IS WE HEARD RECENTLY THAT I THINK THE PIPES BROKE IN THAT BUILDING, AND THERE WAS A FLOOD AND THE SPACE THAT PETERSBURG OFFICES OCCUPIED HAD THAT THEY HAD TO MOVE OUT. I DON'T KNOW HOW SERIOUS THAT WAS.

I DID HEAR FROM SOMEONE, UNOFFICIALLY, THAT IT WAS KIND OF SERIOUS, SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT HAS ANY IMPACT ON THIS EITHER. WHAT'S THE CONDITION OF THE BUILDING? SO WHILE I KNOW YOU'RE NOT PROBABLY NOT GOING TO GET UP THERE AND ANSWER ALL MY QUESTIONS. I HOPE SOME OF THE PEOPLE ON COUNCIL ARE WONDERING SOME OF THE SAME THINGS. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, MR GARY TALLY.

DAIRY TALLY. 23 23 4 TRY STREET KIND OF ECHO OR COMMENTS PART OF HIM ANYWAY. IS THERE NOT A CITY OWNED BUILDING WE COULD USE FOR FREE. AND SPEND THAT MONEY ON UPGRADING OUR COMMUNICATION SYSTEM RIGHT NOW. I CANNOT TEXT TO 911. I CAN'T IN COLONIAL HEIGHTS. I CAN'T INDIAN WITTY. I CAN'T IN PATRICK AND HENRY COUNTIES IN WAY, SOUTHWEST VIRGINIA, BUT NOT HERE. AND I'M NOT THE ONLY DEAF PERSON IN THIS CITY. BUT IF I FELL AT HOME BY MYSELF STUCK, I CANNOT REACH OUT TO GET HELP. WE COULD USE THAT MONEY. I THINK MORE. MORE BENEFICIALLY TO DO THE CITIZENS OF THE CITY. ALRIGHT SAYING NO MORE HANDS. THERE'S PUBLIC HEARING HIS CLOTHES. NEXT. WE HAVE A DISCUSSION FROM MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. UM. ALRIGHT. QUESTION. ALRIGHT, COUNCILMAN JONES. I KIND OF AGREE WITH THE CITIZENS ON THIS ONE OF THEM. SOME QUESTIONS COME TO MIND ABOUT THE EQUIPMENT. IT SAYS IT'S BEEN INSTALLED IN 2006 AND SEVEN MY QUESTION IS THAT EQUIPMENT? STILL USABLE. UM WHAT ARE WE USING NOW? UM AND WHAT'S IT COST? BUT WHAT WILL BE THE COST OF THE CITY? TO UPGRADE THIS OF FOR THIS LEASE. LIKE IT WAS MENTIONED AS A NEW OLD. THE MAIN THING IS. THAT EQUIPMENT BUSINESS STARTED 2006 AND 2007. WE'RE IN 2023. I'M SURE THAT EQUIPMENT BACK THEN WAS LIKE USING A PAGER. VERSUS USING HERSELF FOR THE DAY. SO TO ADDRESS YOUR QUESTION, COUNSELOR. WE DID RECEIVE A FEDERAL EARMARK FROM CONGRESS THIS YEAR FOR TO UPGRADE OUR OUR EMERGENCY OPERATIONS TELECOMMUNICATIONS SYSTEM. SO WE DO HAVE THOSE FUNDS COMING OUR WAY WE'RE IN DISCUSSIONS WITH MURDER ROLLING NOW ABOUT UPGRADING THAT SYSTEM, SO IT IT HAS BEEN A VERY LONG TIME SINCE WE UPGRADED IT. SO WE ARE WORKING ON THAT NOW WE HAVE THE FUNDING IN PLACE. ONE OF THOSE ITEMS THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT IS THE TEXT FEATURE THAT MR TALLEY MENTIONED SO WE'RE LOOKING AT HAVING THAT UPGRADE MOVED INTO MOVE FORWARD NOW, UH, DEFER TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS. I SAY. I WOULD SAY THIS IS IT'S A NEW LEASE. IS THAT CORRECT NEW LEASE BECAUSE OF THE NEW OWNER OWNER, BUT THE BIT THAT THE EQUIPMENT HAS BEEN THERE BECAUSE OF THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING AND WHERE IT WAS LOCATED AND ENABLED US TO GET THE BEST REACH OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY FOR PUBLIC SAFETY COMMUNICATIONS. IT'S SOMETHING THAT CERTAINLY WE CAN LOOK AT OTHER ALTERNATIVES. BUT RIGHT NOW WE'RE KIND OF WE NEED. THE EQUIPMENT IS THERE. WE NEED TO CONTINUE HAVING THAT EQUIPMENT AS WE LOOK AT WHAT WE COULD DO SO I DEFER, THAT'S RIGHT. I MEAN, I WAS JUST GONNA ECHO SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU ALREADY SAID. AND THAT WAS MS RUDOLF. JUST THIS IS FOR THE EQUIPMENT THAT WAS ALREADY THERE.

PHYSICALLY THERE. WE DIDN'T PURCHASE ANY NEW EQUIPMENT. AND WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT THAT, UM, THAT MONEY THAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT $3.2 MILLION TO UPGRADE THAT UPGRADE THE SYSTEM SO WE COULD GO THROUGH ALL OF THE UPGRADES FOR THE FOR THE SYSTEM . RIGHT SO WE'VE BEEN LEASING THIS NOW FOR SINCE 2016. WHAT'S THIS GOING ON 17 YEARS NOW? YES. SO THIS IS. COMING BACK TO US BECAUSE I THINK WE HAD APPROVED A WHILE BACK. BUT SINCE THERE'S A NEW OWNER OF THE BUILDING.

STRUCTURED A NEW LEASE. AND INITIALLY IN THE CAPITAL BUDGET . FOR 23. THERE WAS A MILLION DOLLARS OF OPERA FUNDS THAT WAS DEDICATED TO LIKE A PAYMENT. BUT THEN THE STATE GAVE US TO 3.2 MILLION. SO THAT KIND OF FREES UP RESOURCES FOR OTHER PROJECTS, COUNSELOR JONES. WITH THIS

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LEASES, THIS LEAST MORE NOW THAN WHAT IT WAS. DON'T PASS. YES. SO WHAT HAPPENED WAS OVER THE COURSE OF ALL THOSE YEARS. THE CITY'S EQUIPMENTS WASN'T BEING UPGRADED. AND WE'RE AT THE THEY PUBLIC SAFETY IS. BASICALLY THIS EQUIPMENT. IS THAT THE END OF HIS LIFE, SO IT'S REALLY ALMOST LIKE MOTOROLA CAN'T EVEN GUARANTEED TO REPAIR SOME OF THIS FAMILY'S EQUIPMENT.

QUESTION WAS, IS THE LEAST AMOUNT THAT'S WE'RE LOOKING AT TODAY. 10 YEAR REMEMBER $2500 A MONTH FOR 24 MONTHS WAS THAT MORE THAN THE PREVIOUSLY YES, YES. I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH THE PREVIOUS LEASE WAS, BUT I'M STILL TRYING TO FIND OUT. I WAS TALKING TO CHIEF CHRISTIAN. UM SO WE'RE TRYING TO FIND THAT OUT. BUT WE'RE YOU KNOW, READ IS THAT THE BUILDING? THIS IS YOU KNOW, IT'S BEING OCCUPIED BY A CITY KIND OF RECOUNTED BETWEEN A ROCK AND A HARD PLACE WE CAN WE NEED TO HAVE OUR EQUIPMENT, SO WE NEED TO GET THIS LEASE DONE. SO THEN WE CAN LOOK AT OTHER OTHER ALTERNATIVES IN THE CITY THAT COULD GIVE US THAT ADVANTAGE OF HEIGHTS. SO THAT WOULD BE PART OF OUR CONVERSATION WITH MOTOROLA. AS WE LOOK AT THE UPGRADING THE SYSTEM, COULD THEY LOOK AT AND SEE IF THERE WAS ANOTHER LOCATION? POTENTIALLY A CITY OWNED PROPERTY, BUT WE WOULD WE GOTTA LOOK AT THAT ELEVATION PIECE SO ABSOLUTELY, WE CAN LOOK BUT I THINK TODAY WE'RE YOU KNOW, WE'RE KIND OF IN A ROCK AND HARD PLACE. WE NEED TO GET THIS DONE SO WE CAN KEEP OUR EXISTING EQUIPMENT THERE, AND AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE UPGRADES, WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK AT THOSE ALTERNATIVES. OKAY, VICE MAYOR HILL. YES, UH I MEAN, COMING OFF THE HIGHWAY, YOU CAN SEE IT. ACTUALLY, THAT'S THE TALLEST BUILDING THAT THAT I THINK THAT WE HAVE IN THE CITY. IS LIKE CENTRALLY. THE BIGGEST TALLEST BUILDING THAT WE HAVE IN THE CITY. DOWNTOWN MORE TOWERS. PROBABLY. YEAH. THANKS. DICK. MARTY? YEAH. AND WHAT HAVE YOU SO AND IT'S BEEN THERE SINCE 2006 SO I KNOW WE KIND OF I WOULD LIKE I WOULD LOVE FOR IT TO BE ON ON ONE OF OUR BUILDINGS. YOU KNOW? WHAT YOU KNOW, WE'RE CAUGHT BETWEEN THE ROCK AND HOSPITALS, SO THANK YOU. OKAY? THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. UM, COUNSELING COVER. THANK YOU, MR MAYOR. MR WILLIAMS, WHEN DOES THE EXISTING LEASES EXPIRE? I WANT TO SAY DECEMBER THIS PAST THIS PAST DECEMBER, OKAY, SO IT'S IN THE IN THE PAST. NOT IN THE FUTURE STARTS IN JANUARY, SO THIS WOULD BE THE FIRST MONTH I WAS SITTING HERE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE WE MIGHT PUT THIS THING AND I THOUGHT, WELL, IF WE HADN'T TORN THE RAMADA INN DOWN, WE COULD HAVE PUT IT UP THERE. THAT'S PROBABLY NOT A GREAT IDEA. UM AND THEN, UH, WONDERED ABOUT SEVEN STORY BUILDING OF THE REDEVELOPMENT AND HOUSING AUTHORITY. UM. I WONDER. IS THAT A POSSIBILITY? MR ALTMAN FILM SYCAMORE TOWERS. SO I WILL SAY THERE'S A POSSIBILITY, BUT WE REALLY NEED TO HAVE MURDER ROLLER LOOK. AT THEIR COVERAGE MAP, SO THAT WILL BE PART OF THAT UPGRADE PROCESS . BUT WE CAN LOOK TOWARDS THE FUTURE, BUT YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY THERE'S ALTERNATIVES, AND I AGREED LOVE TO HAVE IT ON ONE OF OUR BUILDINGS, BUT I DON'T THINK ANY OF OUR BUILDINGS ARE TALL ENOUGH RIGHT NOW. RIGHT? RIGHT. I UNDERSTAND. BUT THAT PETERSBURG REDEVELOPMENT HOUSING AUTHORITY BUILDING MIGHT BE AND THEN WE COULD HAND, A LITTLE MONEY OFF TO THE PETERSBURG REDEVELOPMENT AND HOUSING AUTHORITY. UM WELL, BUT THAT'S A TOPIC I GUESS TO VISIT. SOME OTHER TIME. ONE. YOU KNOW? WHEN THIS TWO YEAR LEASE EXPIRES IF THAT'S COUNCILS WILL OKAY? I GOT IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR MAYOR. ALRIGHT. CHANGE THE MOTION AT THIS TIME. ALRIGHT.

COUNSELING COVER MOVE. ALL RIGHT. COUNCILMAN SMITH LEE SECOND. ALL RIGHT, AND THIS IS A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ORDINANCE. ON THE TWO YEAR LEASE AGREEMENT. MADAM CLERK. CAN YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? COUNCIL MEMBER COMFORT COUNCIL MEMBER JONES. I COUNCIL MEMBER, SMITH LEE. I REMEMBER MYERS. UM FOR THE RECORD, I'M GOING TO ABSTAIN, BUT I DO NOT RECEIVE ANY RENEW MARAIS SHIN WITH RESPECT TO THIS BUILDING. I RENT AT THIS BUILDING, SO I DO NOT RECEIVE ANY FUNDING FROM THIS BUILDING. SO I WANT TO MAKE THE CITIZENS UNDERSTAND WHY, BUT I'M GOING TO STINK JUST FOR THE PERCEPTION. BATHROOM OVER WESTBROOK. BY SUMMERHILL PERM PAST. NEXT ITEM IS A PUBLIC HEARING TO AMEND THE FY 23 BUDGET AND APPROPRIATE FUNDING TO THE Y M C. A ALL RIGHT. ANY BACKGROUND ON THIS, MR ALTMAN. TO THE AMENDMENT THAT IS PROPOSED TODAY WAS ONE THAT WAS

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DISCUSSED. PROBABLY ONE OF MY FIRST COUPLE OF MEETINGS THAT THERE WAS A THE PROGRAM THAT WE WERE WORKING WITH THE WIDER WIDER Y M C. A WHEN AN AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAM, UH, COUNCIL AT YOUR NOVEMBER 15TH MEETING, UM. ASKED THAT WE MAKE THAT AMENDMENT AND BEFORE THAT WE BRING BACK THE PUBLIC HEARING THIS EVENING TO AMEND THE BUDGET AND THE AMOUNT OF $190,000 969 196,960. FOR MENDING THE FY 23 BUDGET OUR CURRENT YEAR AND THAT AMOUNT TO SUPPORT THE AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAM WITH THE Y M C. A. OKAY THANK YOU, MR OLDMAN. NEXT OPEN THE FLOOR FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING. ON THE APPROPRIATION FOR THE Y M C. A. ALRIGHT SEEING NO HANDS THIS PUBLIC HEARING HIS CLOTHES NEXT COUNCILMAN COVER A MOVE THAT COUNCIL AMEND THE FY 23 BUDGET AS PROPOSED AND APPROPRIATE FUNDING TO THE AMC A. FOR THE Y M C. A IS AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAMS. THANK YOU. COUNCILOR JONES SECOND MOTION IN A SECOND. MADAM CLERK. CAN YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? MOBILE COVER. AH COUNCIL MEMBER, JONES, UH, MEMBER SMOOTHLY. CASTLE MEMBER MYERS COUNCIL MEMBER WESTBROOK HILL. I PASSED. NEXT ITEM IS ITEM SEE A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE CONSIDERATION OF ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXTEND THE TECHNOLOGY'S OWN CAPITAL INVESTMENT GRANT FOR IMPACT. FINE CHEMICALS VIRGINIA LLC FOR A PERIOD OF THREE YEARS BEGINNING JANUARY, 1ST 2023. AND ENDING DECEMBER 31ST 2026 THE AMOUNT TO BE APPROXIMATELY 570,000, INCLUDING TAXES DUE FOR YEAR. 21 2022 AS STIPULATED IN THE VIRGINIA NOT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PARTNERSHIP, COMMONWEALTH OPPORTUNITY FUND PERFORMANCE AGREEMENT EXECUTED IN AUGUST OF 2021, MR MORE GOOD EVENING. EVENING, MR MAYOR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL AGAIN AS YOU'VE READ THE PUBLIC HEARING QUEST. UH WE HAVE REPRESENTED FROM AN PACK HERE. HE'LL SPEAK AFTER I GO. AGAIN. THIS IS FOR THE EXTENSIONS. THE INITIAL FIVE YEARS HAS BEEN APPROVED. STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THE THREE YEAR EXTENSION FOR THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. AND THE IMPACT IS ASKING FOR FIVE YEARS. WE'VE DONE THE FIGURES FOR THE THREE YEAR $570,000. WE DID WORK WITH THE COMMISSIONER OF REVENUE FOR THIS FIGURE. SO SIR, IF YOU WANT TO. YOU WANT TO DO SOME MARCH? BEFORE WE START? WE'LL HAVE A GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. L SO DEFRANCO. THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT THIS EVENING. GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. UM, IS THERE YOU WANT ME TO RUN DOWN KIND OF THE STATE OF THE UNION OF THE COMPANY AND WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE LAST FEW YEARS SINCE THIS WAS FIRST APPROVED IS FINE. ALWAYS LIKE TO HEAR. OKAY, GREAT. SO I'M ALSO THE FRANCO GENERAL MANAGER OF AM PACK HERE IN PETERSBURG. UM IN THE LAST THREE YEARS, MOSTLY IN THE LAST TWO YEARS. WE'VE ADDED OVER 70 HEADCOUNT TO THE SITE FROM 60 TO 135. WE HAVE THREE MAIN PRODUCTION BUILDINGS WE'VE BROUGHT. TWO OF THEM BACK ONLINE. WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF BRINGING THE THIRD ONE BACK ONLINE THIS YEAR. UM I THINK IT'S BEEN NOTED SEVERAL TIMES THAT IMPACT IT'S AN SK FARM TACKLE. OUR PARENT COMPANY HAS INVESTED OVER 25 MILLION IN THE SITE TO THIS POINT, AND THEY ARE CONTINUING TO INVEST QUITE A BIT OF MONEY AS WE RENOVATE THE LAST BUILDING ON THE SITE ONCE THAT IS ONLINE THAT WILL BRING MORE HEADCOUNT TO THE FACILITY AS WELL. I DON'T HAVE AN EXACT NUMBER AT THIS POINT. AS WE'RE A CONTRACT RESEARCH ORGANIZATION AND BUSINESSES DEPENDENT, OF COURSE, ON A NUMBER OF CONTRACTS THAT WE HAVE AT ANY GIVEN TIME. SO UH, IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN THEM. OKAY? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MR DEFRANCO, SO WE'LL OPEN THE FLOOR NOW FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING, AND THEN WE'LL GO BACK TO QUESTIONS FROM MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. ALRIGHT THIS IS THE PUBLIC HEARING NOW FOR CONSIDERATION OF THE ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXTENDED TECHNOLOGIES OWN CAPITAL INVESTMENT GRANT FOR AN PACKED FINE CHEMICALS. ALL RIGHT. MISS BOB RUDOLPH. BARB RUDOLPH 16 75 MOUNT VERNON STREET AGAIN. I JUST HAVE QUESTIONS AND I APOLOGIZE BECAUSE I READ THIS, BUT IT WAS SEVERAL DAYS AGO. BUT I THINK, UM MY RECOLLECTION IS THAT PART OF THIS WAS, UM THE CITY WOULD BE FOREGOING MACHINE AND TOOLS TAXES. THAT'S IS THAT PART OF THE AGREEMENT. CAN I ASK MR MOORE. OKAY, UM I THINK MY COMMENT WOULD JUST BE UM, IF THAT'S MAYBE, IF THAT'S THE POLICY OF HOW YOU'RE GOING TO DEAL WITH ALL OF THE COMPANIES THAT ARE PART OF THE

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PHARMACEUTICAL CLUSTER. I THINK MAYBE WOULD BE GOOD TO LOOK AT IT OVERALL. IF THERE'S YOU KNOW, LIKE A POLICY DIRECTION THAT THE CITY WANTS TO TAKE IN ORDER TO WORK WITH THE DIFFERENT PHARMACEUTICAL MANUFACTURERS OR OTHER COMPANIES THAT YOU SEEK TO ATTRACT SO INSTEAD OF COMING IN AND DOING SOMETHING LIKE THIS IS THAT YOU HAVE, UM CERTAIN I MEAN, IT'S PART OF LIKE AN INCENTIVE PACKAGE. THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET AT IS MAYBE RATHER THAN I MEAN, I'M SAYING I KNOW YOU HAVE TO DO THIS NOW, BUT IT JUST SUGGESTED. THE POSSIBILITY OF DOING SOMETHING LIKE THAT, SINCE THERE ARE OTHER I MEAN, SINCE IF IMPACT IS GOING TO BE GETTING SIMPLE, PARTICULAR WHAT MY OTHER COMPANIES MIGHT THINK OR CONCESSIONS OR SPECIAL PRIVILEGES OR SOMETHING YOU MIGHT WANT TO THINK ABOUT THE IMPLICATIONS OF THAT. AND THEN IF THAT'S THE DIRECTION THAT YOU WANT TO GO GOING FORWARD, THEN CREATE A POLICY OR STATEMENT, SO YOU KNOW YOU CAN DEAL WITH OTHER AND PERHAPS IT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD HELP ATTRACT. OTHER BUSINESSES TO COME IN AND YOU KNOW, INTO THE INTO YOUR PHARMACEUTICAL CLUSTER AREA.

THANKS. RIGHT SAYING NO OTHER HANDS. THERE'S A PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED, UM VICE MAYOR HILL.

THEY HAD NO OTHER QUESTIONS. I LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE APPROVED THE AUDIENCE AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXTEND THE TECHNICAL CHECKING IT OUT OF THE ZONE. UH, CAPITAL INVESTMENT GRANT FOR IMPACT. FINE CHEMICALS, RIGHT COUNSELOR MYERS. SECOND PROMOTION IN A SECOND. MADAM CLERK. PLEASE GOT TO ROLL. REMEMBER CUTHBERT COUNCIL MEMBER JONES MEMBER SMITH LEAGUE COUNCIL MEMBER MYERS COUNCIL MEMBER WESTBROOK BERRYHILL PERM I PASSED. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MR DEFRANCO. FOR ALL YOU DO. ALRIGHT, AND FOR ALL THAT GOOD NEWS. RIGHT? UM NEXT WEEK, GO TO ITEM. D. PUBLIC HAND ON JANUARY 17TH 2023 FOR THE CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A PURCHASE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF PETERSBURG AND JOE HERB TOWARDS THE SALE OF CITY ON PROPERTY AT 469. BERN STREET PARCEL 031050039. MR MORE. GOOD EVENING , MR MAYOR MEMBERS COUNCIL. GUINNESS'S PRESENTATION IS FOR THE SALE OF 469 BERN STREET. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. OKAY SEE, THIS PROPERTY IS OWNED R THREE.

RIGHT NOW. IT'S CONSIDERED BACON RESIDENTIAL. AND MR JOBS AND CONSIDERING IT ADDITIONAL ACRES FOR JOINING HIS LOT. ED JOLLY ALLEY. PURCHASE PRICE IS 2500. THE ASSESSED VALUE IS 5000 DISTURBANCE HERE TO SPEAK PRIOR TO SURE. UH SO GOOD AFTERNOON, MR THANK YOU. UM, THERE WAS A COUNCIL. MR MAYOR MANAGER. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK. I SO THIS PROPERTY I YOU KNOW.

UNDER ARTICLE 22 SECTION ONE OF ZONING GIVEN THE WIDTH OF THE LOT IT IS NOT BUILDABLE. THAT IS STATED. THERE IS AN ADDENDUM THAT WAS DELIVERED AFTER THE PURCHASE AGREEMENT WAS SIGNED.

THAT SAID. THAT BASICALLY THERE WOULD BE TIMES TO THE ACTUAL DEED. THAT WOULD. ENFORCE NO BUILD BALL ACTIONS WITHIN THE LOT. MY. KIND OF PUSHED BACK IS THAT A THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DELIVERED WITH THE PURCHASE AGREEMENT. SECOND PIECES THAT EXISTING ZONING LAWS. RESTRICT THE ABILITY TO DO THAT. NOW DO I INTEND TO BUILD ON IT? NO, I DON'T OWN THE LOT NEXT TO IT. UM I DO OWN THE LOT BEHIND IT. THAT'S JOINING UM, BUT IF THE HOME NEXT TO IT, WHICH IS IN THAT YEAR, A DETERIORATING STATE UM, WOULD THERE BE OPPORTUNITIES IF I WERE 2% 5 10 YEARS FROM NOW OR ANOTHER PURCHASER? UH, TO IMPROVE THAT LOT. GIVEN THE RESTRICTIONS THAT WILL BE PUT ON THAT DEED. THAT IS MY CONTENTION. UH, AGAIN. THAT INFORMATION WAS NOT SHARED PRIOR TO THE PURCHASE OF THROUGH DEALS . ONLINE PUBLIC AUCTION, UM, OF WHICH I PARTICIPATED ON ALONG WITH THE REST OF THE COMMUNITY, WHO HAD THE OPTION TO PURCHASE AH! THAT LOT. SO THAT IS MY, UH MY COMMENTS FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH. I'LL PASS IT BACK OFF TO THANK YOU. SO WE'RE AT THIS POINT, MR

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MAYOR ALREADY OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. OKAY? ALRIGHT I'LL OPEN THE FLOOR AND THEN FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR CONSIDERATION OF THE ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER EXECUTE THE PURCHASE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF PETERSBURG AND JOE HERB. TOWARDS CITY ON PROPERTY AT 4 69 BERN STREET. ALRIGHT SAYING NO HANDS. THERE'S PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED. NEXT, UM COUNCILMAN JONES. YES, UM. MY QUESTION IS. THIS PROPERTY IS ASSESSED AT $5000. WHY ARE WE SELLING IT FOR HALF WHY CAN'T WE GET WHAT THESE PROPERTIES ARE WORDS. WELL, WE GIVING THINGS AWAY. THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. MR COUNCIL MEMBER. UM POLICY THAT HAS BEEN ENACTED BY COUNCIL IS TO HAVE AT LEAST A MINIMUM OF 50% VALUE OF THE ASSESSED VALUE. FOR SALES OF PROPERTY WITH THE AUCTION. IT COULD EITHER GO HIGHER. THEN THE 50% BUT WE DO NOT ACCEPT ANY OFFERS. WE DON'T BRING ANYTHING TO YOU TO COUNSEL IF IT'S BELOW THAT 50% THRESHOLD. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT SHE WOULD LIKE US TO CONSIDER A STAFF. WE CAN COME BACK TO COUNCIL COUNCIL AND BRING SOMETHING FORWARD TO IF YOU'D LIKE. I THINK I'M WELL, I'M WHEN I'M ASKING IS AND I APPRECIATE YOUR ANSWER, BUT $5000 IS. NOT A LOT FOR THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY RIGHT THERE. AND I THINK IF SOMEONE TRULY WANTS TO OWN IT, THEY WOULD PAY THAT $5000. ALRIGHT COUNSELOR BUYERS. MR MAYOR, I MOVE THAT WE AUTHORIZED THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE APPROACHES AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF PEACE.

BERGEN TROLLER. TOWARDS THE SAILOR CITY ON PROPERTY. 469 BURNS STREET. PARTS OF 1010310.

RIGHT COUNSELOR COVER. MR MYERS , WOULD YOU ACCEPT A MODIFICATION TO THAT? AH MOTION TO ADD. PROVIDED THAT THERE BE NO REQUIREMENT THAT THE PROPERTY MAY BE MAINTAINED AS OPEN SPACE.

WOULD YOU ACCEPT OF MODIFICATION OF THAT MOTION TO SAY UH, COMMA PROVIDED THAT THERE BE NO REQUIREMENT THAT THE PROPERTY BE MAINTAINED AS OPEN SPACE. UH, ON PAGE 70. UM THE SENATE READS.

THE PROPOSED USE OF THE PROPERTY IS TO JOIN THE PROPERTY TO HIS ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY.

LOCATED AT 115 JOLLY AVENUE AND MAINTAINED IT AS OPEN SPACE. UM AND IN ISN'T ADDENDUM. THE NEXT SENTENCE READS. THE PURCHASE OF THIS IS ON PAGE 70. THAT BACKGROUND BIG BIG PARAGRAPH THERE TOWARD THE I GUESS THE THIRD SENTENCE FROM THE END. THE PURCHASER AGREES THAT THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 469. BERN STREET WILL MAINTAIN, WILL MAINTAIN OPEN SPACE. THIS AGREEMENT SHALL BE INCORPORATED INTO THE DEED OF CONVEYANCE OF THE PROPERTY FROM THE CITY TO THE PURCHASER, AND SHE'LL RUN WITH THE LAND. IN OTHER WORDS, IF WE JUST ADOPT THE UH, RESOLUTION OR ORDINANCE AS PROPOSED. THERE WILL BE A DEED RESTRICTION THAT THAT REQUIRES IN PERPETUITY THAT THE PROPERTY BE MAINTAINED AS AN OPEN SPACE. AND I THINK THAT UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES THAT THAT SEEMS A BIT HARSH. SO BACK TO MY QUESTION, COUNCILMAN MYERS, WOULD YOU, UH, UM. IS IT OKAY WITH YOU TOO? WOULD YOU PLEASE MODIFY YOUR MOTION TO ADD A PROVIDES. OH THAT READS PROVIDED THAT THERE BE NO REQUIREMENT THAT THE PROPERTY BE MAINTAINED AS OPEN SPACE. IF YOU. ALL RIGHT, MR WILLIAMS. YES MISMATCHES. WANT TO CLARIFY? I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT AMENDMENT IS NECESSARY. I THINK COUNCILMAN MYERS COULD DO IT. THIS ITEM HAS BEEN IN FRONT OF COUNCIL BEFORE AND THAT WAS ADDED TO GUARANTEE THAT IT WOULD BE MAINTAINED AS OPEN SPACE. HE'S JUST COMING BACK AND SAYING I DON'T WANT TO AGREE TO THAT ADDENDUM. I'D LIKE TO NOT BE UNDER THAT DEED. SO IF COUNCIL WAR TO APPROVE THIS, I DO THINK THAT'S A TYPO OR THAT'S THE OLD COVER SHEET. I DON'T THINK MR MOORE MAY NOT HAVE UPDATED THE COVER SHEET, BUT THE ACTUAL APPROVING THIS, AS IS WOULD ALLOW HIM TO EXECUTE IT WITHOUT THAT ADDENDUM. IF

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COUNCILMAN MYERS MOTION WERE TO PASS AS DATA BUT AGAIN IF COUNCILMAN CUT BUT WANTED TO ADD THAT CLARIFICATION, IT WOULDN'T HARM ANYTHING, BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S NECESSARY. SO, MR MAYOR, AS YOU UNDERSTAND. SORRY MR CITY MANAGER AS YOU UNDERSTAND IT. IF WE, UH PAST COUNCILMAN MYERS MOTION AS STATED THERE WILL BE NO OF DEED RESTRICTION REQUIRING THAT THE PROPERTY BE MAINTAINED AS OPEN SPACE. IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT THAT'S WHY HE'S HERE TONIGHT IS CURRENTLY UNDER THE ORDINANCE THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY ADOPTED. HE HAS TO HAVE THE ADDENDUM. HE'S JUST ASKING YOU TO RE ADOPT IT. WITHOUT THAT REQUIREMENT. ALRIGHT, WELL, I'LL WITHDRAW MY MOTION ON MY REQUEST TO ULTIMA MYERS AND I'LL SECOND HIS MOTION. ALRIGHT. WE'RE MOTION IN A SECOND. ALL RIGHT.

AT THIS TIME, MADAM CLERK YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. COUNCIL MEMBER COMFORT REMEMBER JONES? NO. COUNCIL MEMBER, SMITH LEE. I REMEMBER MYERS COUNCIL MEMBER WESTBROOK. BACK MARY HILL FAST.

AND MR MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO FOLLOW UP ON COUNCILMAN JONES COMMENTS. I THINK HE MAKES A GOOD POINT.

AH AND MAYBE WE NEED TO BE MORE AH, A LITTLE BOLT MORE DEMANDING. UM THEN WE HAVE BEEN.

WE'VE BEEN KIND OF A UH, A SOFT TOUCH, AND WE TOLD THE PUBLIC AH! BASICALLY YOU CAN BUY ANYTHING AT A FIRE SALE PRICE. AH, THAT IS 50% OF ASSESSED VALUE. AND, UH, AH, I DO QUESTION WHETHER THAT IN IS IN THE CITY'S BEST INTEREST. PUT A LONG TIME. UM, I AGREE. COUNSEL COVER IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO REVISIT AGAIN. I'M JUST GONNA TELL, UM, COUNCILMAN JONES THAT THIS WAS PUT IN A PLACE WHERE WE WERE DOING ALL OF THOSE DOLLAR PROPERTY. $10 PROPERTIES AND WE SAID NO, WE WANT A MINIMUM OF 50% OF US AS VALUE. SO NOW IT'S PROBABLY THE TIME TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION NOW ON BOOSTING IT UP TO MAYBE 80% OF ASSESS VALUE, NOTHING LESS THAN THAT BEFORE IT COMES BACK TO US. MR ALTMAN, WOULD YOU PUT THAT ON COUNCIL'S AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION AT WORK AT THE WORK SESSION ON FEBRUARY 7TH? AND I THINK COUNCILMAN JONES MAKES A GOOD POINT. BUT THIS DEAL IS GONNA THREE QUARTERS COOKED ALREADY. AND, UH, UM, RELUCTANT TO DO. I MAKE THAT CHANGE KIND OF IN THE MIDDLE OF THE COOKING PROCESS. YOU MIGHT SAY THANK YOU, MR MAYOR. CORRECT COSMO COVER IF THE PETERSBURG MARKET FOR LAND AND HOUSING HAS REALLY GONE THROUGH THE ROOF, SINCE IT'S BEEN DONE, SO IT'S DEFINITELY TIME TO REVISIT IT. HAVE A SEPARATE CONVERSATION. THAT'S A GOOD COMMENT, AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT DRIVES COUNCILMAN JONES'S OBSERVATION AS WELL. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT NEXT. WE'LL MOVE ON ITEM E. A PUBLIC HEARING FOR CONSIDERATION FOR ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER EXECUTE THE LEASE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CD OF PETERSBURG AND THE COMMONWEALTH OF VIRGINIA. DEPARTMENT OF MOTOR VEHICLES FOR CITY ON PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1004 COMMERCE STREET, MR MOORE. GOOD EVENING, MR MAYOR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. TONIGHT THE COMMONWEALTH OF VIRGINIA, THE DEPARTMENT MOTOR VEHICLES I WOULD LIKE TO CREATE AN OPERATOR COMMERCIAL DRIVING TESTING CENTER. THIS WILL BE THE REGIONAL SITE. IT WOULD BE MOVING FROM CHESTERFIELD COUNTY. THERE WOULD BE RELOCATING TO THE COMMERCE STREET LOT ACROSS FROM TITMUSS. AND THE DESIRE TO DO ALL THE IMPROVEMENTS AND HAVE THAT COMPLETED AND OPERATIONAL IN MARCH. THE IMPROVEMENTS ARE ESTIMATED TO BE IN THE AREA OF $1 MILLION. UM WE HAVE REPRESENTATIVES HERE TONIGHT. I THINK SO HE'LL SPEAK, AND THEN I'LL FOLLOW UP WITH THAT BEFORE WE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND WHAT, MR WILLIAMS? WE HAVE SOME.

I THINK THEY JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THE LEGAL PIECES. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS MIKE NOLAN. I'M THE DIRECTOR OF REAL ESTATE FOR THE COMMONWEALTH I HAVE WITH ME TONIGHT. MR NEWMAN'S GENDER SORRY. WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF MOTOR VEHICLES.

OUR PROPOSAL. IS TO, UM, REDEVELOP AND REUSE THE VACANT PARKING LOT. 1004 COMMERCE STREET. THE PLAN IS TO, UH IT'S BEEN VACANT FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS. THE PAVEMENT IS IN, UM POOR SHAPE. UH, FENCING IS IN POOR SHAPE. SO OUR PROPOSAL IS TO REPAVE THE LOT. RE FENCE. IT HE HAD NEW LIGHTING. UM PUT A SMALL MODULAR OFFICE THERE JUST FOR STAFF, ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF AND BATHROOM FACILITIES. AND THEN OPERATE A CDL TESTING FACILITY OUT OF THAT SITE. UM.

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IT'S FAIRLY SIMPLE, UM THE MILLION DOLLARS OF MR MOORE MENTIONED WOULD BE FOR RESTORING , UH A LOT, BASICALLY TAKING UP THE OLD PAYMENT. PUTTING IN A NEW PAYMENT SECTION THAT WOULD SUPPORT THE HEAVIER TRUCKS. UM, AND THEN SECURE THE LOT WITH LIGHTING AND FENCING. UM WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE ON THE OPERATIONS. THANK YOU. I'M SORRY. ONE POINT OF CLARIFICATION. I THINK THE ORDINANCE WAS BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE DEPARTMENT OF MOTOR VEHICLES. UNDER STATUTE. THE DEPARTMENT OF GENERAL SERVICES WILL ACTUALLY BE A TENANT ON THE PROPERTY UNTIL WE ARE ABLE TO ACQUIRE FEE OWNERSHIP OF IT. AT THAT POINT, WELL PAST JURISDICTION AND CONTROL OF THE PROPERTY OVER TO DEPARTMENT OVER VEHICLES. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

YEAH. MR MAYOR THIS TIME. OUR CITY ATTORNEY HAS REVIEWED THE DOCUMENT THAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU. MR WILLIAMS. DO YOU WANT TO PROVIDE THE BACKGROUND FOR THIS? SIR MR MAYOR? I'M WONDERING IF WE CAN GET THE GUY FROM DGS BACK UP FOR A MINUTE. YES, SIR. SO ONE OF THE THINGS IN THIS AGREEMENT THAT I THINK THAT COUNCIL NEEDS TO BE KINDNESS AND MY RECOMMENDATION IS GOING TO BE AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING TO TABLE THIS FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION, BUT I WANT TO EXPLAIN, OR I'D LIKE YOU TO EXPLAIN THE COUNCIL, THE SUBSECTION 12 UNDER ARTICLE SEVEN. THE ACQUISITION OPTION DESCRIBED TO THEM HOW THAT'S SUPPOSED TO WORK. YES, SIR. UM WE WOULD LIKE TO TAKE CONTROL OF THE PROPERTY UNDER RELEASE SO THAT WE CAN START DECIDE IMPROVEMENTS RIGHT AWAY. IT WILL TAKE US A FEW MONTHS TO GO THROUGH THE DUE DILIGENCE PROCESS TO GET A LAND SURVEY. TITLE SEARCH AND INSURANCE, ANY ENVIRONMENTAL STUDIES AND ONCE WE'RE ABLE TO COMPLETE THE DUE DILIGENCE AND THEN WE WAS ACQUIRE THE PROPERTY THROUGH THROUGH INDEED. AND TERMINATE THE LEASE. RIGHT SO IF YOU DECIDE TO EXERCISE THE ACQUISITION OPTION AFTER IMPROVING THE PROPERTY YOU HAVE THE OPTION TO ACQUIRE THE PROPERTY AT NO COST UNDER THIS LEASE, CORRECT. THAT'S CORRECT. THE CONSIDERATION REALLY IS TO.

REDEVELOP THE PROPERTY, BRING SOME JOBS TO PETERSBURG THROUGH THE MV EMPLOYMENT. BUT ALSO. THE OPPORTUNITY TO LICENSE CDL DRIVERS FROM HERE IN THE COMMUNITY. THERE ARE FOUR CDSS TRAINING SCHOOLS IN THE AREA, AND THIS WILL GIVE THEM A CENTRALIZED LOCATION TO COME AND TEST THEIR STUDENTS. THAT THAT'S ALL I HAD. I'VE GOT A QUESTION QUESTION FOR MR MOORE AND ALSO FOR THE GENTLEMAN FROM THE STATE . LET ME START WITH MR MOORE. MR MOORE. IS THIS THE PARKING LOT FOR TITMUSS OPTICAL. IT IS SO IF WE EVER SUCCEED IN DEVELOPING TITMUSS, WHERE PEOPLE GO PARK.

BASED UPON WHAT WE'VE GOT UP THERE, AND AS FAR AS, UH POTENTIAL PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN PROPOSED TO US. ANY TYPE OF REVITALIZATION OF THAT PROPERTY. THERE'S ENOUGH SPACE ON THE ACTUAL BUILDING SITE. BACK. IF YOU LOOK ON THE BACK SIDE, THERE'S ACTUALLY GET THEM OUT OF ROOM. WELL I CAN'T SUPPORT THIS . I'M NOT GIVING AWAY THIS. HUGE ACREAGE RELATIVELY HUGE, SUBSTANTIAL ACREAGE FOR AT NO COST TO THE STATE OF VIRGINIA. NOW IF THE STATE OF VIRGINIA WANTED TO MOVE ITS, UH, STATE, UH, DMV HEADQUARTERS TO THE TIPPERS BUILDING. UM THEN WE COULD THROW THE TIPNIS BUILDING IN AND MAYBE MAKE A DEAL, BUT, UM, YOU MIGHT WANT TO RUN THAT UP THE FLAGPOLE. I'D LOVE TO SEE THAT HAPPEN, BUT I CANNOT IMAGINE ANY OTHER CIRCUMSTANCES IN WHICH I WOULD SEE THIS PROPOSAL TO BE IN THE BEST INTERESTS OF THE CITIZENS OF PETERSBURG TO GIVE AWAY THE TITMUSS OPTICAL PARKING LOT AT NO COST. UM IT WOULD THAT THAT JUST DOESN'T COMPUTE SO UM, LET ME ASK THE STATE GENTLEMEN THE QUESTION. DO YOU THINK THERE'S ANY POSSIBILITY THAT THE STATE MIGHT MOVE ITS STATE DIVISION OF MOTOR VEHICLE HEADQUARTERS TO THE TITMUSS BUILDING? BOY THAT WOULD BE A SEVEN SUBSTANTIAL COMMITMENT TO MOVE. WELL, IT WOULD BE EMPLOYEES RICHMOND AND IT WOULD BE A GREAT BOOST TO US. UM WELL, YOU MIGHT RUN THAT UP THE FLAGPOLE IF YOU HAVE THE COURAGE TO DO SO, UM ALL RIGHT. WELL, I THINK, UH, I'M NOT SURE

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QUITE WHERE WE ARE RIGHT. WE HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING PUBLIC HEARING. YES. ALRIGHT. WE'LL START OFF WITH MR JEFF FLEMING. MAYOR, COUNCILMAN CITY MANAGER, CITY ATTORNEY JEFF LEMON 18 19 AVENUE. I'M ALL ABOUT STUFF COMING TO PETERSBURG. WE WANT BUSINESSES. BUT SOMETHING SOMEBODY'S NOT LOOKING AT. IF YOU COULD GO BACK TO THAT MAP. IT LOOKS LIKE TRUCKS AND WE TRAVEL AROUND THAT ROAD. WHO'S GOING TO PAY FOR THE ROAD MAINTENANCE? YOU GOT EXCESSIVE TRUCKS GOING AROUND THE ROAD. HE HAD TROUBLE ENOUGH TAKING CARE OF WHAT WE GOT. IF YOU GO BACK IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, THAT'S JUST THE BEGINNING POINT. THEN THE TRUCK'S GONNA TAKE THIS ROUTE ALL THE WAY AROUND THROUGH OUR CITY. HOW MUCH TRUCK TRAFFIC IS THAT? WHO'S GONNA WHO'S GONNA HELP US WITH ROAD REPAIRS THERE? SO I DON'T THINK ANYBODY'S LOOKING AND THEN, LIKE MR COOPER SAID, AS WELL. WE'RE GIVING AWAY A PARKING LOT. THAT BELONGS TO THAT BUILDING AND WE SAW THAT BUILDING. THEY HAVE NO PARKING. THINK THE STATE CAN FIND SOMEWHERE ELSE FOR IT. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, MR GANNAWAY. GOOD EVENING, CASTLEMAN. EVERYBODY HAPPY NEW YEAR TO THOSE WHO HAVEN'T SEEN, UM MY NAME'S RADIO GANNAWAY, 62 OLD WAGNER ROAD, PETERSBURG. UM, YOU KNOW, UH, JUST LISTENING TO THIS. I'M GLAD TO BE BACK. WE ARE NOT YOU KNOW THE SITUATION WHERE WE'RE GOING BACK AND TO GIVE AWAY I UNDERSTAND PEOPLE HAVE HAVE OPPORTUNITY WHERE THERE'S AN IDEA PLAYERS. LET'S GO TO PETERSBURG. WE DON'T NEED TO BE GOING BACK INTO THE NEXT ONE TO COME. AND USUALLY, THEY SAID, WELL, GOD APPEARS WHERE YOU CAN GET ANOTHER GIVEAWAY. SO I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD GET INTO THAT ABOUT GIVEAWAYS. JUST LIKE LIKE THE GENTLEMAN SAID THAT FIND SOMEONE ELSE, YOU KNOW? TO GET THERE. WITH THE NAME. THAT'S ALL I GOT TO SAY. OKAY, MR GARY TALLY. GARY TALLY, 23 23 4 TRY SOME KIND OF IN THE SAME VEIN. THE IMPROVEMENTS ARE TALKING ABOUT IT JUST REPAVING THE WHOLE LOT. AS I RECALL FROM THE MEETING LAST TWO WEEKS AGO, THE BUILDING WAS A MODULAR BUILDING. NOT EVEN A PERMANENT STRUCTURE. SO IF WE LOSE CONTROL OF THAT THEY COULD SELL IT MAKE A BUNCH OF MONEY FOR THEMSELVES, AND WE'RE LETTING THE RIGHT LEFT OUT IN THE CULT. AND AGAIN WE SELL THE TETANUS BUILDING WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO PARK. GREAT MISS BARBARA RUDOLPH. BARBARA RUDOLPH 16 75 MOUNT VERNON STREET. I'M SORRY TO BE REPETITIVE. BUT MR CUTHBERT TOOK THE WORDS RIGHT OUT OF MY MOUTH SINCE HE JUMPED IN BEFORE THE PUBLIC HEARING STARTED, BUT THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT EVERYTHING, HE SAID ABOUT THE TITMUSS BUILDING AND THE MARKETABILITY OF THE TITMUSS BUILDING IS A REALLY, UM CANNOT BE IGNORED. I HEARD MR MOORE GIVING INFORMATION ABOUT ROOM FOR PARKING ON THIS ON THE OTHER PROBLEM ADJACENT PROPERTY WHERE THE TITMUSS COMPLEX ACTUALLY IS. I THINK I LIKED WHAT MR WILLIAMS HAD TO SAY ABOUT TABLING IT UNTIL ANOTHER MEETING BECAUSE I THINK A LOT MORE INFORMATION NEEDS TO BE PUT TOGETHER AND SHARED HIS RIGHT NOW. THE WHOLE, UM AND I'M GLAD MR WILLIAMS THAT YOU ACCENTUATED THAT ACQUISITION CLAUSE. MAKE MAKE US AWARE THAT THERE'S A IT'S A LEASE, BUT IT'S AT LEAST LEADING TO POTENTIALLY , UM, GIVING UP THE PROPERTY AND THEN REGRETTING IT LATER, BECAUSE YOU ALL HAVE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT A MILLION AND A HALF DOLLARS INVESTED IN BUYING TITMUSS AT SOME POINT THE CITY'S GOT TO RECOVER SOME OF THAT. AND YOU'RE TRYING TO. I KNOW YOU'RE TRYING TO SELL THAT BUILDING. I KNOW YOU'VE APPLIED FOR. I THINK AN INDUSTRIAL REVITALIZATION FUND GRANT OR YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IT. I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT BUT IT'S STILL A KEY PIECE OF THE CITY REAL ESTATE PORTFOLIO THAT'S IN FLUX. AND THAT SEEMS LIKE AS MUCH AS HAVING THIS D DMV OPERATION HERE WOULD BE A POSITIVE, I THINK, LOOKING AT THE BIGGER PICTURE. IT'S SHORTSIGHTED TO GO WITH THAT. SO I DO HOPE IT WILL BE TABLED. I HOPE THE CITY WILL COME BACK WITH MORE INFORMATION. OR PERHAPS, UM, I LIKED WHAT MR CUTHBERT SAID. UM, MAYBE THAT THE DEPARTMENT OF GENERAL SERVICES CAN AND THE DEPARTMENT OF MOTOR VEHICLES IN THE STATE CAN COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE MORE ADVANTAGEOUS TO PETERSBURG. THEN JUST PUTTING A MODULAR BUILDING ON THERE AND HAVING THIS TESTING SITE. THANK YOU, MR JOEL. ER. JUST TO ADD TO WHAT EVERYONE ELSE HAS SAID I, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THIS PROPERTY IN PARTICULAR HAS HAD A PARTICULAR INTEREST FROM A NUMBER OF DEVELOPERS BOTH, UH WITHIN PITTSBURGH AT THOSE FROM WITHOUT I. HAVING A PROPERTY WITH THE PARKING THAT IS ADJACENT. DOES DELIVER VALUE. AT

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THE END OF THE DAY. IF WE WERE TO DELIVER LEASE WHERE IT WAS A MONTH A MONTH. OR A QUARTERLY MONTH OR SIX MONTHS. YOU KNOW THERE WERE PERIODS. WHERE IT'S NOT CURRENTLY BEING USED. IT HAS NOT BEEN SOLD. WE CAN GENERATE REVENUE GREAT. BUT NOT RESTRICTING THE ABILITY FOR THE SALE OF THAT PROPERTY TO BE DEVELOPED. AND LEVERAGE THE LOT NEXT TO IT. I THINK IT'S JUST AN IMPORTANT THING JUST TO THINK THROUGH. UM THERE'S AN INCREDIBLE AMOUNT OF OPPORTUNITY WITHIN THAT PROPERTY, AND I SAY THAT IS A MEMBER OF THE E D. A UM, YOU KNOW, BUT ALSO AS A MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY THAT WE WANT TO MAKE AS MUCH MONEY FOR THE CITY. NOW. BUT ALSO THINK ABOUT THE FUTURE OPPORTUNITY OF THAT PROPERTY. LONG TERM, SO THAT IS, UH ON IT FOR ITS WORTH.

ALRIGHT MR RICHARD STEWART. RICHARD A STOOD 1 29 ROSS STREET. THERE'S AN OLD SAYING WELCOME TO THE POPE PARTY CITY. IN THAT PART OF THE CITY. INDUSTRY AND THAT PART. THE CHURCH THEM. REVEREND BONNER PREACHES THAT. POOR FOLKS BOOTLEGGING PLACES IN THAT AREA.

HOW IS THIS GOING TO AFFECT THE E P A. THE NOISE LEVEL IN THAT AREA. HOW IS THIS GONNA ERODE THE ROADS AND SO FORTH IN THE SERRA HOW THAT'S GOING TO IMPROVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS ON ITS WAY DOWN. AND THE PEOPLE'S RIGHT AND THEY'RE NOT GONNA SAY ANYTHING THEY SET OUT ON THEIR PORCH IN THE DRINK. THEY'LL WEAR WHATEVER THEY DRINK. AND IT'S THE POOR PART OF TOWN AND THEY DON'T HAVE A VOICE. TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION ALL THE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT GOES ALONG WITH THAT. THAT IS A GOLD MINE. AND IF THERE'S A GOLD MAN, MAKE SURE THE POOR PEOPLE OF THAT AREA IS NOT AFFECTED BY SOUND NOISE, E P A POLLUTION AND SO FORTH. THINK TWICE BEFORE YOU GIVE THAT PROPERTY AWAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, SEEING NO MORE HANDS THIS PUBLIC HEARING HIS CLOTHES NEXT VICE MAYOR HILL. LISTEN TO ALL THE COMMENTS. I THINK WE OUGHT TO TABLE THIS AT THE DIRECTION OF OUR, UH, CITY ATTORNEY FOR FURTHER REVIEW. AND LET THEM COME BACK WITH ANOTHER. AGAINST PRESENTATION. I DO BELIEVE THAT UM. YOU KNOW, WE COULD GET MORE VALUE FOR TIPPMIX IF WE DO HAVE PARKING WITH IT. SO UH, NOT TRYING TO KILL THE PROJECT. KIND OF LIKE WHAT? MR. WITH THE GENTLEMAN SAID ABOUT MAYBE QUARTERLY AT LEAST AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE, BUT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE ROADS LIKE MR FLEMING SAID AS WELL, JUST GOING THROUGH THE CITY, SO AH, MY MOTION IS TO TABLE IT. FOR FURTHER OBSERVATION. ALRIGHT, COUNSELOR.

WESTBROOK SECOND. OCEAN THE SECOND TO TABLE MADAM CLERK. CAN YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROAD? COUNCIL MEMBER COMFORT REMEMBER JONES. COUNCIL MEMBERS. SMITH LEE COUNCIL MEMBER MYERS COUNCIL MEMBER WESTBROOK. VICE MAYOR HILL, ALL RIGHT. MOTIONS PASSED THE TABLE. ALRIGHT. NEXT MOVE ON A ITEM F WAS REQUEST TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING ON JANUARY 17TH. 2023 ON THE ORDINANCE TO ADD SECTION 2-241 TO THE CITY COVE, RESERVING THE RIGHT OF COUNSEL TO REMOVE APPOINTED MEMBERS OF BOARDS, COMMISSIONS AND AUTHORITIES. ALRIGHT, MR WILLIAMS. HONORABLE MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, VICE MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL UM, 2022 LATE IN THE YEAR. COUNCILMAN CUTHBERT, UH, MADE A MOTION TO HAVE ME DIRECTED TO BRING FORWARD A SUMMARY OF THE VIRGINIA CONFLICT OF INTEREST ACT AND HAVE THAT INCORPORATED INTO YOUR RULES OF COUNCIL. THE PURPOSE OF THAT WAS JUST TO PROVIDE SOME GUIDANCE TO COUNCIL SINCE THE CONFLICTS OF INTEREST AH ACT IS ACTUALLY DIVIDED INTO A MULTITUDE OF AREAS WITHIN THE STATE CODE YOU HAVE CONFLICTS WITH REGARDING REGARDING TRANSACTIONS. YOU HAVE CONFLICTS REGARDING CONTRACTS.

YOU HAVE CONFLICTS REGARDING ACTIONS BY MEMBERS OF COUNCIL AND SO I APOLOGIZE. I'M I'M DIGRESSING. I'M ON THE WRONG ITEM. YEAH THAT'S MY NEXT ITEM. LET'S GO BACK TO THIS ITEM. OKAY

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SO THIS ITEM IS ACTUALLY JUST COUNCIL RESERVING UNTO ITSELF OF THE UNQUALIFIED RIGHT TO REMOVE CERTAIN MEMBERS OF APPOINTED BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS COUNCIL APPOINTS MANY BOARDS AND MANY COMMISSIONS. SOME OF THOSE, FOR EXAMPLE, THE IDEA, FOR EXAMPLE. HAVE PROVISIONS WITHIN THE STATE CODE THAT GIVE YOU CIRCUMSTANCES UNDER WHICH YOU CAN REMOVE MEMBERS OF BOARDS THAT YOU APPOINT BUT THOSE STATUTES GO ON TO SAY UNLESS COUNCIL HAS RESERVED UNTO ITSELF THE UNQUALIFIED RIGHT OF REMOVAL. AND SO THIS IS JUST A SAFETY NET FOR COUNCIL IN THE EVENT. YOU FIND YOURSELF IN A SITUATION WHERE YOU WANT TO PROCEED WITH THE REMOVAL OF A MEMBER OF THE BORDER COMMISSION FOR A REASON THAT IS NOT SPECIFICALLY ENUMERATED WITHIN ONE OF THEM.

MULTITUDE OF STATUTES THAT AUTHORIZE THE CREATION OF THESE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. UM, THAT'S ALL THIS IS SORRY FOR GOING OFF ON THE OTHER ITEM THAT I'LL HAVE LATER ON. I JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU A PRECURSOR OF THAT ONE. ALRIGHT THIS IS THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR CONSIDERATION ORDINANCE TO ADD SECTION 2-241. TO THE CITY CODE, RESERVING THE RIGHTS OF COUNSEL TO REMOVAL, POINTED MEMBERS OF BOYZ COMMISSIONS AND AUTHORITIES. ALRIGHT, MISS MARY HOWARD. BUT THANK GOD I'M HERE. MARY HOWARD WAS SIX OR EIGHT SOUTH PARK DRIVE. UM, EVENING. I WAS SITTING HERE WONDERING EXACTLY WHAT THIS WAS AND WHAT WOULD IT AND TELL WHAT KIND OF PROTOCOL AND WHEN I SEE REMOVE SOMEBODY THAT YOU ALL APPOINTED. ED WILLE BECAUSE YOU ARE UPON US. AND I'M SAYING IT BECAUSE I SIT ON ONE OF THESE BOARDS AND BEING ON 11 12 YEARS AND FIRST FOR, UM ONE OF YOU ALL TO SAY, I DON'T WANT HER THERE ANYMORE, AND I'M TRULY QUALIFIED, BUT THAT GIVES YOU THE RIGHT TO SAY AT WILL TO REMOVE HER. WHAT IS UNQUALIFIED POWER OF REMOVAL? WHAT IS THAT? AT WILL. YOU APPOINT US? WHY IS THIS NECESSARY BECAUSE YOU ALL APPOINT US THAT'S WHAT I HAD TO SAY SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS IS ABOUT, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE SOMETHING COMING AROUND THE CORNER. BUT IS THERE ANY OTHER PROTOCOL BECAUSE I WILL SAY I WANT TO REMOVE AND YOU REMOVED SO WHAT'S THE PROTOCOL? BEHIND WHAT REASONS WHICH YOU HAVE LEGALLY TO DO THAT AND WHEN I SAY LEGALLY WATCH WHAT I'M SAYING LEGALLY TO DO THAT AFTER SOMEONE'S BEEN APPOINTED? IT SAYS THAT WILL THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MR JEFF FLEMING. GEOFF LEMON 18 19 CHECK KENTUCKY AVENUE. I'M NOT THE SMARTEST KNIFE IN THE BOX, ALRIGHT? BUT I LOOKED UP THE DEFINITION OF UNQUALIFIED UNQUALIFIED, RIGHT. UNQUALIFIED DEFINITION. WITHOUT RESERVATION. LIMITATION TOTAL.

SO THAT MEANS YOU DON'T LIKE THE WAY I LOOK YOU OFF THE BOARD. I THINK THAT'S HOGWASH. NO I CAN UNDERSTAND REMOVING SOMEONE FROM CALLS. SOMEBODY MESSED UP MEDICAL STEAK, BUT THAT JUST GIVES YOU THAT GIVES YOU TOO MUCH POWER. TOO MUCH POWER. AND I THINK THAT I CAN'T AGREE WITH THAT. YOU HAVE TO HAVE A REASON TO REMOVE. SOMEONE JUST CAN'T GO . I DON'T LIKE THE WAY HE LOOKED . YOU GANG UP. YOU DON'T LIKE HIM? I'M GONNA KICK HIM OFF THE BOARD. THAT'S NOT RIGHT. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, MR GARY TALLY. ALONG THE SAME VEIN YOU APPOINTED AND YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO TAKE US OFF. I MEAN, I AGREE WITH THAT WHOLEHEARTEDLY, BUT IT OUGHT TO BE FOR CAUSE AND NOT JUST BECAUSE YOU DON'T LIKE SOMEBODY OR THEIR PASSING THINGS ALONG THAT YOU CAN CONFLICT WITH WHAT YOU ALL THINK WHERE WE'RE GOING. YOU SHOULD HAVE THE POWER TO REMOVE THIS, BUT IT SHOULD BE FOR CAUSE OKAY. MR BARBA, RUDOLPH. BARBARA EXCUSE ME, BARB RUDOLPH 16 75 MOUNT VERNON STREET. UM I APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS THE OTHERS HAVE MADE PARTICULARLY MARY HOWARD AND JEFF FLEMING. UM. I JUST WANTED TO COMMENT, AND I'M SORRY THAT MR WILLIAMS IS OUT IS LEFT THE LEFT THE TABLE, BUT IT'S KIND OF IRONIC THAT THE COUNCIL HAS GONE FOR. I MEAN, FOR MANY, MANY YEARS, YOU ALL HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT WHAT ARE THE PROCEDURES AND HOW TO APPOINT PEOPLE FOR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AND MR WILLIAMS CAME UP WITH AN EXCELLENT PRESENTATION A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO. AND MADE A LOT OF RECOMMENDATIONS. I DON'T THINK THOSE WERE EVER ADOPTED. I MEAN COUNCIL CAN'T SEEM TO AGREE ON HOW TO APPOINT PEOPLE TO BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. YOU DON'T EVEN

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HAVE A CONSISTENT METHODOLOGY BETWEEN AND AMONG ALL THE DIFFERENT BOARDS. BUT IT'S SO THE IRONY IS YOU ALL CAN GET TOGETHER AND FIGURE OUT WE CAN REMOVE PEOPLE AT WILL. THE HARD PART IS GETTING APPOINTED. I MEAN, WE'VE EVEN HAD CONVERSATIONS THAT IT'S UM SOME MEMBERS OF COUNCIL DIDN'T LIKE A PERSON THAT THERE'S NO WAY THEY WOULD EVER BE APPOINTED AND THAT THAT REALLY DIDN'T SPEAK TO THE QUALIFICATIONS OF THE CITIZENS IT'S JUST SPOKE TO. THEY WERE NOT IN FAVOR WITH SOME MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL SO UM, I THINK IF YOU'RE GONNA DO THIS CAN YOU LOOK AT THE WHOLE CAN YOU BACK UP AND LOOK AT THE WHOLE PROCESS AND MAKE THIS PART OF IT? BECAUSE RIGHT NOW YOU'VE GOT A CRAZY QUILT OF DIFFERENT WAYS OF PUTTING PEOPLE ON BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. BUT WE ARE GOING TO MAKE SURE WE GOT A WAY TO TAKE YOU OFF. NO QUESTIONS ASKED. I MEAN, THAT'S JUST I'M SORRY. I'M TRYING. I'M STRUGGLING TO NOT CURSE, OKAY, BECAUSE I JUST THINK IT SOUNDS CRAZY. IT REALLY DOES IN LIGHT OF YOUR HISTORY, SO PLEASE LOOK AT THE LOOK AT THE OVERALL. I MEAN, LOOK AT THE OVERARCHING THING. GO BACK TO WHAT MR WILLIAMS GAVE YOU A FEW YEARS AGO. I MEAN, THE IDEA WAS TO DEVELOP CITIZENS. THIS JUST SOUNDS LIKE YOU ALL HAVE A PROBLEM WITH SOMEBODY ON A BOARD OR COMMISSION AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S REAL EASY. TO MAKE A CHANGE. THANKS. MR GANNAWAY. GANNAWAY 65 TO OLD WAGNER ROAD. THIS IS REALLY I'M PROPAGANDISTIC. BECAUSE YOU KNOW , I HAVE NEVER WHILE BUT YOU'RE JUST TAKING BACK. YOU KNOW HOW IT WAS. IT WAS A PROBLEM. REALLY? TO GET PEOPLE ON THE BOARD AND HAVING A SITUATION WITH BUT THEN YOUR POOR PEOPLE ON THE BOARD AND THEN YOU WANT TO JUST COME AND JUST WE ARE THE JUST DISMISS HIM. BECAUSE IT COULD BE MY BAD HOW THEY LOOK. MAYBE YOU JUST WOULD HAVE LONG WORD IS SAID AH. I MEAN, YOU GOTTA WE GOTTA DO BETTER THAN THIS. UM I DON'T THINK NONE OF US JUST SYDNEY HERE IS PERFECT, AND SOME OF US A LOT OF SCOTT FLAWS. AND SO HOW DO YOU? HOW CAN YOU MAKE A JURISDICTION WHERE YOU'RE GONNA MAKE THAT PERSON AND THAT FLOOR THEY HAVE BE BASED ON WHAT YOU SAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. IN THE BACK.

GOOD EVENING. HOW YOU DOING, MISS WAYNE? GOOD EVENING COUNCIL MAYOR, PARENTS VICE MAYOR, HE'LL OTHER COUNCIL HONORABLE COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS CELESTE WIN 3 19 EAST FILLMORE STREET. I DID NOT EVEN KNOW THIS IS ON THE AGENDA, BUT UM, BEING AN APPOINTED MEMBER OF A BOARD. AS A COMMUNITY SERVICE GIVER FOR THE CITY OF PETERSBURG, TRYING TO DO MY PART AS A CITIZEN OF THIS IN A RESIDENT OF THE CITY OF PETERSBURG. I THINK IT'S VERY UNFAIR. DECISION YOU'RE TRYING TO MAKE. UM I WAS APPOINTED IN 2012. I MIGHT HAVE KNOWN A LOT ABOUT WHAT I WAS DOING THEN. BUT I HAVE LEARNED A LOT. SINCE I'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD OF MY DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES AND KEEPING THE HISTORICAL SITES OF PETERSBURG IS BEAUTIFUL, AND IT'S A LABYRINTH AS THEY ARE. SO THE IDEA OF YOU ALL BEING ABLE TO REMOVE SOMEONE JUST ON GP PURPOSES IS NOT TO ME A VALID REASON. THANK YOU. MR RICHARD STEWART. MY NAME REGISTERED 1 29 RAW STREET. I THINK IF YOU PUNCH THEM ABOUT IT TO AVOID JUST ABOUT THE RIGHT TO REMOVE THEM, BUT WHAT BOARDS ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? E JUST I DON'T THINK YOU SHOULD BE ON A COMMITTED FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE. YOU LIKE THE SUPREME COURT? WHAT I'M SAYING. IF A PERSON THAT COMMITTED MITT SOME TYPE OF CRIME AND SOME VIOLATION AGAINST THE ORDINANCE AND SO FORTH AND SARAH THEY SHOULD BE REMOVED. NOW IF JOE MARSHALL WAS ON ONE OF THESE COMMITTEES IN INTERNET WOULD Y'ALL REMOVE HIM? THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING IS, YOU SHOULD HAVE SOME RIGHT TO REMOVE SOMEBODY OFF OF THE COMMITTEE. BUT LIKE I'M SAYING, BUT YOU SHOULD BE FOR A PURPOSE. FOR A PURPOSE. I THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT THIS PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED. NEXT DISCUSSION. REMEMBER THE COUNCIL VICE MARY HILL LIGHTED ALL THE COMMENTS? I KNOW YOU ALL ALWAYS SAY YOU ALL BUT ALL OF US . THIS RIGHT HERE IS KIND OF NEW TO ALL OF US WITH THIS THIS RIGHT HERE AND I KNOW Y'ALL

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POLOZ TOGETHER, BUT SOME OF US ON THIS COUNCIL, UH, I AGREE WITH YOU, BUT IT CAME UP AND IT WAS THE WISHES OF WOULD YOU KNOW? BUT ANYWAYS? UH UM. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I LIKE FOR US TO BECAUSE I BELIEVE IF YOU APPOINT SOMEONE YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET RID OF IT COULD BE HEALTH. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT COULD BE HEALTH. IT COULD BE THEM NOT WANTING TO DO IT AGAIN. WE HAVE RESIGNATION TO CM TIME TO TIME. IT COULD BE NONPERFORMANCE OF DO THIS. THEY DON'T COME TO THE MEETINGS. THEY MISSED CERTAIN MEETINGS, SO IT HAS TO BE FOR A CAUSE. UH I BELIEVE, BUT JUST BECAUSE I YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW YOU DIDN'T VOTE ON THE SITUATION THE WAY THAT I WANTED YOU TO VOTE ON IT, AND WE'RE GONNA GET RID OF YOU. WE DON'T OPERATE LIKE THAT. AND I DON'T THINK THIS COUNCIL OPERATES LIKE THAT. BECAUSE YOU KNOW WE HAVE BOYS IN COMMISSIONS, AND THEY DON'T ALWAYS SEE AT A EVEN WITH THE COUNCIL'S VISION. WE TRY TO APPOINT PEOPLE THAT ARE VISION DRIVEN. THAT WANTS THE BEST FOR THE CITY AND NOT JUST AT THE WHEEL OF THE COUNCIL AND MOST OF OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS LIKE THAT, SO IT'S NOT A WITCH HUNT.

AH AT LEAST FROM THIS. THIS FROM THIS COUNCIL. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, IF I'M IN ORDER, I LIKE THEM. TABLE THIS UNTIL WE CAN GET DO MAYBE A WORKSHOP AND SEE EXACTLY HOW WE WANT TO FURTHER THIS AND THEN ALSO WHAT? THAT TABLE IN OUR LIKE FOR US TO LOOK INTO MORE OF HOW WE APPOINT INDIVIDUALS IN THE QUIET CRITERIAS OF WHICH, IN THE LIMITED TIME WE ALREADY HAVE THE TIMES ON IT. THE TIMES IN WHICH HOW MANY CONSECUTIVE TIMES THEY CAN RUN AND BEYOND. IT DIDN'T REAPPOINT, SO WE NEED TO REALLY HAVE A WORKSHOP ON THIS, AS OPPOSED TO US MAKING A DECISION LIKE TONIGHT. THAT WOULD BE MY MOTION. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION TO TABLE THAT IS ON THE FLOOR, SECOND WHEREVER SECOND COUNCILMAN JONES, UM NEXT DISCUSSION COUNSELING JONES.

JUST TO PIGGYBACK OFF OF AS MAYOR, HILL. UM THIS THING IS WRITTEN. CANNOT OF WHACK. WHEN WE APPOINT SOMEBODY WE SHOULD HAVE THE EXPECTATION. THAT WE'RE APPOINTING THEM TO DO A GOOD JOB IN THE FIRST PLACE. NOT TOO BULLY THEM OR THINK WE GOT SOMEBODY IN OUR POCKET? TO MAKE MOVES THE WAY WE WANT THEM TO MAKE IT. WE WANT MISSION ORIENTED PEOPLE, MISSION DRIVEN PEOPLE, NOT PERSONALITY DRIVEN, AND THAT'S BEEN A PROBLEM AS I SEE IT AS A WHOLE FROM FROM THE COMMUNITY ALL THE WAY UP TO COUNCIL AND BACK TO YOU GUYS. WE NEED TO BE MISSION DRIVEN, AND ALL OF OUR DECISIONS SHOULD BE ON US. SO THIS IS WHY I PICK IT BACK ON THE HILL TO UH, REWRITE THIS THING AND UNTIL HIS, UH FAIR ACROSS THE BOARD. WHEN YOU APPOINT SOMEBODY IS YOUR FALL UNDER THE SAME THING WHEN WE APPOINT PEOPLE TO ANY DEPARTMENT. HOW WE REMOVE THEM THE SAME WAY, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S I THINK THAT WOULD BE FAIR. THAT'S ALL I GOT. ALRIGHT WE HAVE EMOTION AND SECOND TABLE AND DISCUSSION ANYMORE DISCUSSION FROM HIM AS A COUNCIL SAYING NONE. MADAM CLERK, COULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? RECOVERED COUNCIL MEMBER JONES I REMEMBER SMITH LEE HIGH COUNCIL MEMBER MYERS. REMEMBER WESTBROOK , VICE MAYOR HILL PERN PAST THE

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TABLE. ALRIGHT NEXT MOVE ON ITEM NINE, WHICH IS THE PUBLIC INFORMATION PERIOD OF PUBLIC INFORMATION, PERIOD IN TIME TO 30 MINUTES SHALL BE PART OF AN ORDER OF BUSINESS. EDDIE'S REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING, THE SPEAKER SHOULD BE A RESIDENT OR BUSINESS OWNER OF THE CITY AND SHALL BE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES. NO SPEAKER WILL BE PERMITTED TO SPEAK ON ANY ITEM SCHEDULED FOR CONSIDERATION A REGULAR DOCKET OF THE MEETING AND WISH TO SPEAKERS TO SPEAK.

THE ORDER OF SPEAKERS LIMITED BY THE 30 MINUTE TIME PERIOD SHALL BE DETERMINED AS FOLLOWS A FIRST IN CHRONOLOGICAL ORDER OF THE NOTICE PERSONS WHO HAVE NOTIFIED THE CLERK RELATED IN 12 O'CLOCK NOON OF THE DAY OF THE MEETING TO BE SECOND APART A LOGICAL ORDER OF THEIR SIGN UP PERSONS WHO HAVE SIGNED A SIGN UP SHEET PLAYS BY THE CLERK IN THE REAR OF THE MEETING ROOM PRIOR TO THE MEETING REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA. TODAY. WE HAVE 123. FOUR WE'RE GONNA START OFF WITH MR RICHARD STEWART. MY NAME REGISTERED 1 29 LAW STREET. I'M BACK HERE AGAIN THIS YEAR ABOUT POCAHONTAS. FIRST THING WE NEED TO STOP LIGHT. THANK THE POLICE DEPARTMENT I CALL IN THE DAY SOMEWHAT HAD BROKEN DOWN ON THE BRIDGE COULD HAVE CALLED DANGER . DEATH TO SOMEBODY THAT I'M THANK THE POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR COMING AND SOLVING THAT ANOTHER THING ABOUT POCAHONTAS GOT HOME TO THIS. I'LL SEE A COUNCILMAN, UH, JONES. HE HAD WENT AND RECOVERED HOMELESS PERSON. THE

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TENSION. EVERYTHING IS STILL ON THERE, AND I BELIEVE ONCE THE WEATHER GETS WARMER, THE HOMELESS PERSON GOING TO COME BACK, SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE ABOUT THAT. ANOTHER THING ABOUT EXIT 52. YOU COULD TALK TO RAMONA IN DOWN. WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO WITH IT? ALSO EXIT 50 TO 2, FORMER ROPER BROTHER. EVERY DAY IN POCAHONTAS. WE'RE GETTING SOMEBODY WHO WANTS TO BUY THE LAND. THE RIVERFRONT PROPERTY IS SOMETHING GOING ON IN PETERSBURG AND POCAHONTAS.

DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT. WHY EVERYBODY'S MAKING A CITY OFTEN NOW TO BUY THIS RIVERFRONT PROPERTY AND ESPECIALLY EXIT 52 . SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE EXCEPT EXCEPT EXPENSE FOR DREADING THAT RIVER AND MAKING DOWNTOWN PITTSBURGH LOOK PERFECT. THANK YOU. YEAH. EX MISS LATISHA WASHINGTON. GOOD AFTERNOON. GOOD AFTERNOON. AH LAETITIA 26 26 HATCHET ROAD. UM I'M ALSO A MEMBER OF THE RICHMOND ASSOCIATED RICHMOND ASSOCIATION OF BLACK SOCIAL WORKERS. UM AND MY APOLOGIES IN ADVANCE OF WHAT I'M GOING TO ASK, HAS ALREADY BEEN ADDRESSED.

AND OTHER MEETINGS JUST POINT ME IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION AND TO FIND AN ANSWER. JUST LET ME KNOW. SO I READ IN 2022, THE CITY OF PETERSBURG RECEIVED FUNDING FROM THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT TO IMPLEMENT DATA INFORM BALANCE REDUCTION INITIATIVES IN ASSISTANT OF SUPPORT OF COMMUNITY PROGRAM. AND, UM, CAN YOU SHARE ANY PROGRESS THE CITY HAS MADE WITH THE INITIATIVE SO FAR. SO THIS SECOND THING. IS THE WAIT LIST TO GET INTO SHELTERS. HOMELESS SHELTERS IS LONG AND SHELTERS TO MY KNOWLEDGE IS NOT IMMEDIATE. ALSO, SOME PEOPLE MAY NOT KNOW WHERE TO GET SHELTERS. WHAT IS THE CITY'S PLAN TO MAKE SHELTERS MORE ASSESSABLE TO PEOPLE IN IMMEDIATE NEED? AND HOW WOULD THIS INFORMATION BE DISSEMINATED? THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT IS, UH, THE V K.

GREETINGS, EVERYONE. GOOD EVENING HAD TO SAFETY ISSUES. UM I LIVE AT 1 35 WEST OLD STREET.

CARRIAGE HOUSE. I HAVE A DRAG STRIP GOING DOWN MY STREET. UM, WE HAVE ACCIDENTS. PEOPLE GOT HIT. AND I LIKE TO IMPLICATE SPEED BUMPS OR SOME KIND OF UM, REMEDY BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T STOP AT THE STOP SIGNS. AND I'M AFRAID TO WALK IN THE CROSSWALK . I KNOW I HAVE WE HAVE THE LAND, GREEN AND WHITE. PROTECTION BUT SOME PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS. I THINK THAT STATE PROTECTION UM I'D LIKE TO HAVE SOME ISSUES. RESOLVED ABOUT THAT SPEED BUMPS OR SOMETHING. I GOT THAT FROM ONE OF MY NEIGHBORS SAY WE'LL PUT SPEED BUMP THEIR TAP THEIR CARS AND STUFF READING. THEY HAD NO CONCERNS ABOUT YOU KNOW PEOPLE IN THEIR CALL MY LITTLE WHEELCHAIR. CADILLAC, BUT YOU KNOW? I DON'T HAVE NO PROTECTION LIKE THE CADILLAC. YOU KNOW, AND MY OTHER ISSUE IS WE'VE BEEN HAVING UM, ROBBERIES? UM. BREAK INS. I LIKE TO INDICATE SOME CAMERAS. TO CATCH SOME OF THIS AND SHOOTINGS. AND THE CARS PEELING AWAY. TWO O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING. I HEAR A SHOOTOUT, NOT JUST A SHOOTOUT. THEY'RE LIKE I THOUGHT I WAS IN THE VIETNAM WAR OR SOMETHING. AND I KNOW CARS WERE GOING AROUND. IF WE HAVE SOME CAMERAS THERE. I LIKE TO IMPLICATE THAT. AND THE OTHER ISSUE WAS A STUDENT FROM THE GOVERNOR'S SCHOOL. WANT TO REFURBISH SOME OF THE SIDEWALK? ALL RIGHT. THEY BROUGHT THAT TO ME OR THE ONE AT THE ARTIST IN LAW SPACE. AND THAT'S ABOUT IT. AND IF YOU LIKE IT. HELLO COUNCIL. I'M TYSON. THE FALLEN 1 29 SPRING STREET. I'M IN A COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION, WHICH VINCENT IS ALSO A MEMBER OF AND IT'S A COMMON THREAD AMONGST OUR MEMBERS IN DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE CITY THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF RESIDENTIAL STREETS WHERE PEOPLE ARE DRIVING VERY FAST, AND THEY'RE DANGEROUS FOR BIT.

HISTORIANS. SPRING STREET IS THE SAME WAY AND WE WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST, UH, SPEED BUMPS TO HELP CONTROL THE SPEED. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. NEXT UP, MR OTIS HILL. THIS IS

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MY FIRST TIME HERE. AND I JUST WANTED TO TELL YOU GUYS THAT I LIVE AT TWO. 306. WHITE HILL.

WHITEHILL DRIVE? YES. AND I'M CONCERNED, I THINK ABOUT SIX MONTHS AGO. THERE WAS A SHOOTING OUT THERE. I HEARD GUNSHOTS. AND I'M WORRIED ABOUT. I'M CONCERNED FOR MY HOME. BECAUSE I REMEMBER AFTER THE POLICE TOLD ME WHEN THEY HAD A CAR OUT THERE THEY WERE WATCHING. AND THEN THAT.

TWO YEARS AFTER THAT, THEY STOPPED. THERE WAS NO ONE OUT THERE WATCHING ANYMORE, AND I WANT TO KNOW WHAT HAPPENED. I'D LIKE TO SEE THE POLICE CARS COME BACK THERE SO THAT IT'S MORE SAFE IN THAT AREA. BECAUSE IT'S BEEN HAPPENING AGAIN OFTEN, AND I'D LIKE TO SEE THE GUN VIOLENCE IN THAT AREA DECREASE. BECAUSE YOU KNOW, MAYBE THERE ARE MORE DEAF PEOPLE OUT THERE. IF YOU DON'T WATCH THE NEWS THEY'LL SEE THAT SOMEONE WAS SHOOTING OUT THERE AND THEN THEY'LL KNOW THAT I'M THERE. THAT MY NAME IS OTIS HILL. SO, YEAH, I'M JUST DIDN'T WORRY ABOUT THAT. ALRIGHT UM

[10. Business or reports from the Mayor or other Members of City Council]

NEXT UP IS BUSINESS OR REPORTS FROM THE MAYOR. OTHER MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL WE START OFF WITH COUNCILMAN CUPBOARD. I HAVE NO REPORT. ALRIGHT. NEXT, UM COUNCILMAN JONES. HAVE NO REPORT. ALRIGHT, COUNCILMAN WESTBROOK. UM VERY SHORT REPORT . FIRST OF ALL, THANK EVERYBODY FOR COMING OUT. HAPPY NEW YEAR TO EVERYBODY. JUST LIKE TO, UM, SAY I WAS VERY IMPRESSED WITH WHAT OCCURRED THIS PAST WEEKEND . MED VIRGINIA STATE. THE BIG INNOVATION SUMMIT HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE HE IN THE AREA THAT REALLY HAD GREAT IDEAS, AND I HOPE THAT PETERSBURG WE CAN RIDE THAT MOMENTUM AND BRING PEOPLE THAT REALLY WANT TO CHANGE THIS AREA. JUST BRINGING GOOD IDEAS.

UM BUT ONE THING THAT WOULD SAY THERE BY MR BAKARI SELLERS IS THAT CHANGE REALLY STARTS AT CITY COUNCIL MEETING. SO UM, TO THE FIVE PEOPLE WHO CAME TONIGHT AND THE OTHERS WHO CONTINUE TO COME, PLEASE COME TO CITY COUNCIL EXPRESS YOURSELF IN A PUBLIC FORUM OPENING FORM OPEN MICS, BECAUSE WITHOUT YOU WE CAN'T BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE AS YOUR CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. YES WE HAVE A VISION, BUT WE WORK FOR YOU. YOU PUT US IN THIS SPACE JUST LIKE THOSE PEOPLE IN THOSE COMMITTEES AND BOARDS. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING OUR JOB AND BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE. UM AND WITH THAT ALSO TO, UM NOT JUST BECAUSE MR ATKINSON IS HERE, BUT IT WAS ALSO SAID THAT YOU KNOW, WE CAN NEED TO MORE OR LESS CONTROL OUR NARRATIVE. GOOD BAD AND UGLY, BUT BE VOICES THAT CAN BE HEARD. UM I KNOW A LOT OF TIMES. PEOPLE USE SOCIAL MEDIA, ESPECIALLY FACEBOOK TO GET THEIR PERCEPTION OPINIONS OUT. BUT MAYBE WE SHOULD GET BACK TO WRITING MORE UP AIDS AND SENDING THEM TO MR ATKINSON SO THAT THEY CAN BE PUBLISHED IN THE NEWSPAPER BECAUSE NOT EVERYBODY GETS THEIR NEWS ALSO. I DO KNOW THAT WE ARE IN A INTERNET AGE, BUT WE STILL NEED TO USE SOMETIMES THE NEWSPAPER AVENUE FOR PEOPLE TO GET THEIR THOUGHTS OUT ON HOW WE CAN MOVE THE CITY FORWARD. UM AND THEN LASTLY, UM I JUST LIKE PEOPLE TO GET MORE INVOLVED WITH WHAT'S GOING ON THESE? UM UH, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN MEETINGS THAT THEY'RE HOLDING FOR THE PUBLIC AGAIN. EVERYTHING IS IN THE SAME VEIN OF HOW WE CAN MOVE THE CITY FORWARD. WE ARE TRYING TO GET A LONG TERM VISION. WE DO WANT TO WIN TODAY HAVE SMALL WINDS, BUT WE DO NEED EVERYBODY TO COME TOGETHER TO CONTINUE TO CRAFT THIS CITY'S OF FORWARD PROGRESS PLAN BECAUSE IT'S MY BELIEF THAT WE NEED WAYS TO DEFINITELY CONTINUE TO HOLD ON. RETAIN AND PULL BACK, UH, THAT CITIES TALENT THAT GOES ELSEWHERE BECAUSE THEY FEEL LIKE THERE'S NOTHING FOR THEM HERE, UM, FINALLY, JUST LIKE TO SAY ON FEBRUARY, THE FIRST UM, HERE AT THE LIBRARY IS STILL IN THE FINAL STAGES, BUT THERE WILL BE A SHOWCASE BETWEEN VIRGINIA STATE AND PETERSBURG HIGH, UH, WITH A SPEECH AND DEBATE COMPETITION, BUT IT'S MORE OF A SHOWCASE. WE DO WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THE INTELLECTUAL SPORT OF, UM, CONFLICT RESOLUTION. UM AND BASICALLY AGAIN, PUBLIC SPEAKING AND DEBATE, SO I THINK IF WE COULD SUPPORT OUR YOUNG PEOPLE AND LET THEM KNOW THAT, EVEN IF THEY CAN'T RUN A BASKETBALL PLAYER BASKETBALL OR RUN THE FOOTBALL THAT THEY CAN'T USE THE INTELLECTUAL SPORT OF THE MIND AND ACTUALLY HAVE AGAIN A WAY TO SAY, HEY, I CAN SEE MYSELF AS A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER, A LEADER UM AND SOMEBODY UPRIGHT THAT WANTS TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF MY COMMUNITY OR ANY MARGINALIZED COMMUNITIES THAT THEY MAY BE A PART OF AND WITH THAT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALRIGHT NEXT. FEBRUARY, THE FIRST HERE AT THE LIBRARY. NEXT, UM COUNCILOR MYERS. YES MR MAYOR. I'M JUST GOING TO BE VERY BRIEF. FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK COUNCILMAN

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CUTHBERT FOR ATTENDING THE GRIEVANCE MEETING. THAT WE HAD AN ARTIST SPACE TO LISTEN TO LIEUTENANTS THERE AND THE TROUBLES THAT THEY HAVE BEEN HAVING THERE AND I WANT TO THANK HIM FOR ATTENDING THAT, AND THAT WAS A VERY WELL RECEIVED MEETING AND WE ALSO HAD THE PRESENCE OF OUR NEW CAMERON FOUNDATION PRESIDENT THERE, MISS MARSH, WHICH WAS QUITE DELIGHTFUL TO HAVE HER THERE AND TO SEE WHAT WAS GOING ON HERE IN PETERSBURG FOR HERSELF. AND FIRSTHAND. ALSO WANNA THANK RONALD JOHNSON AND I WANT TO THANK RICHARD HARRIS AND DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS FOR ALL THAT THEY DO FOR US IN THE CITY. AND I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU AND HAPPY NEW YEAR. ALRIGHT, NEXT COUNCILMAN AND THAT SMITH LEE THANK YOU, MAYOR. FIRST I LIKE TO SAY HAPPY FOUNDER'S DAY TO THE MEMBERS OF ALPHA KAPPA ALPHA SORORITY INCORPORATED 100 YEARS OF SERVICE TO ALL MANKIND.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU TO MARQUEES . CAN YOU STAND AND IS MISS ST CLAIR HERE? I THOUGHT I SAW HER.

THANK YOU. MY KEYS. EXCELLENT PROGRAM. EXCELLENT ON SUNDAY. IT WAS JUST PHENOMENAL. UM ALSO THE OUR KEYNOTE SPEAKER WAS MAJOR GENERAL BARRY PRICE. US RETIRED ARMY. HE SHARED SO MANY THINGS THAT I DIDN'T KNOW. I THOUGHT I WAS A HISTORY BUFF, BUT HE SHARED SO MANY THINGS ABOUT MARTIN LUTHER KING THAT I DID NOT EVEN KNOW. THAT HIS ORIGINAL NAME WAS MICHAEL. SO AND ALSO, UM, THANK YOU, MR RODNEY, STIFF FOR PUTTING ON AN AWESOME, AWESOME AWESOME. THING IN WITH YOUR BAND AND THE BEST WISHES HIS ALBUM IS GONE TO DROP IN FEBRUARY. AND HE'S GONNA BE HERE AND HE'S HOME GROWN HERE IN THE CITY OF PETERSBURG. AND ALSO I WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO OUR FORMER COUNTY COUNCILWOMAN TRUST A. WILSON SMITH. FOR HER. PRESENT. AND ON THE PROGRAM FOR THE BLACK HISTORY PROGRAM. SO THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO SAY. THANK YOU. OKAY NEXT IS VICE MAYOR HILL. I WANNA SAY HAPPY NEW YEAR TO EVERYONE HOPE FOR ALL OF US HAVE A PROSPEROUS NEW YEAR. UM UM TO OUR CITY MANAGER. UH I'VE BEEN BECAUSE MY BUSINESS IS ON SYCAMORE STREET BEEN GETTING COMPLAINTS OF THE CHAIR RAMP THAT WE PUT IN FRONT OF OUR PHYSICAL MANAGEMENT BUILDING. UH A LOT OF PEOPLE SAY WHEN THEY COME PAST THERE ALMOST HIT IT BECAUSE IT'S JUST SO IT'S OUT IN THE STREET. SO I THINK WE NEED TO KIND OF RE LOOK AT IT. MAYBE JUST HAVE ONE ON ONE SIDE. I DON'T KNOW HOW WE DO IT BECAUSE I DO KNOW AT THE END OF THE STREET. I THINK THERE I THINK WE HAVE A DIP THERE WHERE THEY CAN COME UP THAT WAY, AS OPPOSED TO RIGHT THERE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT MAYBE WE JUST NEED IT SO TIGHT RIGHT THERE, BUT, UH, YOUNG LADY WHO LIVES DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET, SHE SAYS SHE'S HERE, UH , SEEING PEOPLE HIT IT, ESPECIALLY AT NIGHT. OR MAYBE WE NEED TO PUT UP SOMETHING THAT'S MORE VISIBLE, SO THEY SO THEY DIDN'T WANT, UM HE DID, OR NO MISSED THEIR CARS UP. VEHICLES UP, SO THAT'S SOMETHING I JUST WANTED TO TAKE A LOOK AT. I WASN'T HERE AT THE MLK DAY ON THIS PAST WEEK. I HEARD IT WAS GREAT ON SUNDAY. I ACTUALLY I WAS DOING THE SPEECH AT ANOTHER CHURCH THAT DAY. I'M SORRY I MISSED IT. BUT I WAS THERE CELEBRATING THE LIFE AND THE LEGACY OF MARTIN LUTHER KING. UM ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UH I'M SO GLAD THAT WE HAVE THE RAMADI IN THIS DOWN NOW, AND OF COURSE , THEY'RE CLEANING IT UP NOW AND I JUST WANTED TO, UH HAVE BE POSITIVE ABOUT PETERSBURG. BUT A LOT OF GREAT THINGS IS COMING TO THE CITY AND TRYING TO COME TO US, AND I'VE ALWAYS SAID THIS THAT WE HAVE TO BE READY SO THAT WE WON'T HAVE TO GET READY AND THE COUNCIL REALIZES THIS. OUR CITY ADMINISTRATION. REALIZES THIS BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE TRYING TO BITE AT US TRYING TO BRING CERTAIN THINGS IS AND JUST LIKE TODAY. YOU ALL SPOKE UP. CERTAIN THINGS THAT YOU WANT IN YOUR CITY. CERTAIN THINGS THAT YOU DO NOT WANT IN YOUR CITY, AND WE'RE VERY TRANSPARENT ABOUT BRINGING THOSE THINGS TO YOU ALL SO THAT YOU ALL CAN HAVE A VOICE TO SPEAK UP . WE MAY NOT ALWAYS AGREE, BUT WE ALL HAVE THE BEST INTERESTS OF OUR CITY. UH AT HAND WAR TWO WOULD TRY TO HAVE A MEETING.

PROBABLY THE FIRST OF FEBRUARY TRYING TO FIND A LOCATION BECAUSE COVID IS STILL GOING ON

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. A LOT OF RESTRICTIONS IS GOING ON WITH THE, UH WHAT THE GOOD SHEPHERD BAPTIST CHURCH WHERE WE NORMALLY HAVE OURS THAT MAYBE WE HAVE IT HERE, BUT I REALLY WANT TO DO IT AND I MY WARD, SO THAT THAT SHOULD BE COMING OUT SOON. OTHER THAN THAT, I HOPE THAT EVERYBODY HAVE A HAPPY AND PROSPEROUS NEW YEAR. THANK YOU, MR MAYOR. ALRIGHT UM, I'D JUST LIKE TO PICK IT BACK ON SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WAS ALREADY STAYED AS WELL. I KNOW I'M UM COUNCILOR WESTBROOK TALKED ABOUT THE BIG DIPPER INNOVATION SUMMIT. I WAS ABLE TO BE A PANELISTS. UM TO TALK ABOUT.

URBAN DEVELOPMENT AND OUR CITY ALONG WITH FILE LEVAR STONEY MAYOR RICHMOND MAYOR BENJAMIN OF SOUTH CAROLINA AND ALSO SAID YOUR GREEN OF DOMINION ENERGY, UM IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO COME TOGETHER TO TALK ABOUT SIMILARITIES AND HOW WE ALL TRYING TO UM CREATE OPPORTUNITIES AND OUR PERSPECTIVE, LOCALITIES. UM NEXT . I CAN'T THANK MARKY SALAD ENOUGH FOR AN EXCELLENT EVENT HERE. I MEAN, ON SUNDAY, HE PACKED HIS PLACE OUT. WE HAD OVER 300. THAT CAME OUT AND IT WAS VERY, VERY WONDERFUL. EVENT AND I HAD NEVER HEARD ANYONE SPEAK ON MARTIN LUTHER KING, TOO, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE GROWING UP AS A KID, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT MY LUTHER KING, YOU YOU THINK OF GOD. DID YOU THINK OF MY LUTHER KING? DO YOU THINK OF ORDINARY PEOPLE, BUT HE REALLY SHOWED HOW MY LUTHER KING WAS EXTRAORDINARY MAN, BUT YET SHOWED HIM AS AN ORDINARY PERSON LIKE EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU ALL WHO CAN DO REMARKABLE THINGS JUST SHOW OUR PEOPLE THAT THERE IS A PLACE AND PURPOSE FOR EVERYONE AND TO FIND YOUR MISSION, AND IT STARTS BY ORDINARY PEOPLE, UM, TAKING A STAND TO DO SOMETHING EXTRAORDINARY. UM ALSO, I HAD HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO ATTEND ANOTHER GREAT EVENT. UM AND, UH, TABERNACLE WITH BISHOP TWYMAN AND SPOKE AT THEIR MARTIN LUTHER KING. EVENT HOSTED BY COMMUNITY TRANSFORMERS. THEY HAD A DAY OF SERVICE THERE, WHICH WAS REALLY GREAT. UM WHICH THEY GAVE OUT SHOTS. FLU VACCINES. UM CPR TRAINING BY, UM UM, BIG DELTA SIGMA THETAS HEAD SPONSORED THAT AT THE CHURCH, AND IT WAS EXCEPTIONAL EVENT AND SOMETHING THAT BISHOP TWYMAN WAS SAYING WAS THAT AS COMING TOGETHER AS.

INHUMANITY TO BE ABLE TO APPRECIATE EACH OTHER'S DIFFERENCES TO BE ABLE TO LOOK AT EACH OTHER AS AS DIFFERENT BUT STILL HAVE COMPASSION TO ONE ANOTHER, WHICH WAS REALLY A POWERFUL MESSAGE IN THE SIGN OF THE TIMES NOW OF, UM PEOPLE FEELING LIKE I DON'T LIKE THIS ONE BECAUSE THIS ONE IS INDEED THIS ONE'S IN OUR AND REALLY, IT WAS A GREAT GREAT SPEECH HE GAVE ON BRINGING EVERYONE TOGETHER AT THE CHURCH ALSO, UM, SOMETHING ELSE THAT SOME OF US HAD. THE OPPORTUNITY TO ATTEND WAS THE RIBBON CUTTING FOR THE HUNGRY LION. FORMERLY THE OLD ALEXANDER'S RESTAURANT. IT WAS GREAT TO BE THERE. UM I ASKED EVERYONE TO COME OUT AND SUPPORT THE HUNGRY LION, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THAT'S ABOUT. PETER'S VERY DEAD IS REALLY SPECIAL AND THAT'S THAT WE ARE SO MUCH OF A FOODIE TAIL. UM ALEXANDER'S CLOSED UM. SPIRO RETIRES, AND THEN SOMEONE STEPS RIGHT IN AND LEARNS SOME OF HIS HIS BEST RECIPES AND CONTINUE THAT LEGACY OF HAVING A STRONG BUSINESS HERE IN THE CITY OF PETERSBURG, SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT EVERYONE SHOULD BE PROUD OF THAT, UM THE CITY IS STILL RIPE FOR DEVELOPMENT AND HIS RIGHTFUL SMALL BUSINESS AND WE SEE DEFINITELY WITH CONTINUED GROWTH. OF OUR DOWNTOWN AND OLD TOWN AREA. UM SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE. SO I MOVE ON TO ITEM 11 ITEMS REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA. UM NO ITEMS THAT NIGHT OUT ON 12 FINANCE AND BUDGET REPORT, NO FINANCE AND BUDGET

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REPORT TONIGHT. UM ITEM 13 IS UNFINISHED BUSINESS. UM DISCUSSION AND CONSIDERATION OF RULES. THE COUNCIL COUNCILMAN JONES. THANK YOU, MR MAYOR. UM I MOVE THAT WE ADOPT THE RULES AS PROPOSED EXCEPT FOR ON PAGE 109. FOR WORK SESSION THAT WE MOVE THE PUBLIC COMMENTS UP. FROM NUMBER 17 TO NUMBER FIVE. ALRIGHT COUNSELOR COVER THE MOTION MOTION IN A SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION COUNCIL DISCUSSION? UM THIS IS TALKING ABOUT THE WORK SESSION IS, UM, LOOKING AT NUMBER ITEM 17, WHICH WAS THE PUBLIC COMMENTS. THROUGH THEM UP TO, UM. RIGHT BEFORE A SPECIAL REPORTS TO ITEM SIX. ALL RIGHT. THIS IS PAGE 109. HE WAS A MOTION TO MOVE THE PUBLIC

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COMMENT PERIOD OF THE JEWS, A COUNCIL UH HUH. THE CLERK TO MAKE THE CHANGES IN THIS IN THE RULES OF COUNCIL THE SAME THING. LOOK AT THOSE. MR MAYOR. YES WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. IT'S TIME FOR DISCUSSION. IS THAT RIGHT? ALRIGHT, EMOTIONAL SECOND. YES, WE HAD DISCUSSION.

I THINK THIS IS A GOOD IDEA. THIS IS WHY I SECONDED. IT GIVES THE PUBLIC AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. WITHOUT WAITING UNTIL THE END OF OUR MEETING, AND SOMETIMES I'LL MEETINGS RUN QUITE LONG. UM SO THIS GIVES THE PUBLIC AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME IN AND SHARE THEIR THOUGHTS WITH US. UM AND THEN RETURN TO THEIR HOMES AND FAMILIES. AND WITHOUT UNDERGOING. A LOT OF. TIME SITTING IN THE IN THE AUDIENCE. WE'D LOVE TO HAVE YOU STAY TO THE END. I DON'T MEAN TO DISCOURAGE THAT IN ANY WAY. BUT NOT EVERYBODY HAS THE LUXURY OF DOING THAT. SO THAT'S THE REASON I SECONDED MR JONES MOTION AND I THINK, MR JONES FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD, ALRIGHT. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? YES, UM YEAH. WHEN WE USED TO HAVE THE DISCUSSION UP A LITTLE BIT EARLIER. THE ONLY THING THAT AND I'M I'M GONNA VOTE FORWARD. BUT THE ONLY THING THAT WE HAVE TO BE KINDNESS OF THIS A LOT OF QUESTIONS COME AFTER WE HAVE OUR DISCUSSION. AND THEN THEY HAVE QUESTIONS AND THEN THEIR ANSWERS ARE WHEN WE HAVE OUR PRESENTATIONS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE, SO WE HAVE TO BE CONSCIOUS OF THAT BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN TIMES WHEN PEOPLE COME UP TO THE MIC AND ESSAY WHERE THEY START TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING, AND THEY SAID, WELL, THAT'S FURTHER DEMANDING AGENDA AND STUFF. SO WE JUST HAVE TO BE MINDFUL THAT I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT. BUT THE REASON WHY I WAS WHERE IT WAS BECAUSE THEY COULD HEAR AND THEN WHAT YOU HAVE YOU HAVE INDIVIDUALS. THEY HAD JUST COME AND SAY WHAT THEY WANT TO SAY. AND THEN THEY LEAVE OUT, WHICH IS THEIR PREROGATIVE . BUT THE ONLY PROBLEM WITH THAT IS THEY DON'T HEAR EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON. SO THEY KIND OF SOMETIMES MISSING MISINFORMED BECAUSE THEY SAY, I'VE BEEN TO THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING. YOU KNOW? BUT THE ONLY THING THEY HAVEN'T BEEN TO THE ATTACK CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS, SO I DO UNDERSTAND. I'M GOING TO SUPPORT BECAUSE YOU AND I HAD TALKED ABOUT THAT. BUT WE JUST HOPE THAT OUR CITIZENS WHAT YOU KNOW, HANG AROUND SO THEY CAN GET THE FULL JUST AT THE MEETING. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, COUNSELOR, MYERS. NO, MR MORAN. I'M NOT OPPOSED.

TO WHAT? UM COUNCILMAN JONES PROVIDED I WAS JUST LOOKING AT THERE IS ARE WE GOING TO GO? ITEM ITEM OF ALL THE CHANGES? ARE WE GOING TO DISCUSS THE RULES OF COUNSEL SO THAT WE CAN ADOPT THAT AND MAKE THAT INCLUSIVE OF THE RULES OF COUNCIL, JONES SAID. THAT WAS JUST 13 8. WAS THIS HIS? THAT WAS JUST FOR 13. A WE STILL HAVE TO DISCUSS 13 B. ALL RIGHT AT THIS TIME, ADAM CLARK, YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROAD. REMEMBER COMFORT? I REMEMBER JONES.

COUNCIL MEMBER SMOOTHLY. I LOVE THE MYERS COUNCIL MEMBER WESTBROOK. VICE MAYOR HILL I PASSED ALRIGHT. NEXT MOVE ON TO ITEM. UM 13 B, WHICH IS CONSIDERATION OF A RESOLUTION TO AMEND THE RULES OF COUNCIL. AND ADD THE CONFLICT OF INTEREST. UM, COUNSELING COVER. I MOVE THAT COUNCIL HEREBY AMENDS THE RULES OF COUNSEL TO ADD THE CONFLICT OF INTEREST PROVISIONS.

AS SET FORTH ON PAGES. 1 30 TO 1 35. OKAY COUNCIL'S AGENDA PACKAGE. COUNCILMAN JONES SECOND DISCUSSION. I HAVE A I WANT TO PUT IN A SUBSTITUTE MOTION. ALRIGHT? BUT CARLOS WOMAN SWIFTLY. I WOULD LIKE TO TABLE THIS BECAUSE THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT. THAT I NEED SOME CLARIFICATION. ON. ALL RIGHT, THAT'S A SUBSTITUTE MOTION TO TABLE. COUNCIL. MYERS SECOND. ALRIGHT, DISCUSSION. RIGHT. IT'S NOT COUNT JONES DISCUSSION. UH, COULD BE MISTAKEN, BUT I THOUGHT WE JUST TABLE THIS LAST MEETING FOR THE SAME REASON FOR COUNSELOR MYA'S UM BUT I DO RESPECT. I THINK THAT WAS. IF HE HAD ENOUGH TIME TO DO IT. I THOUGHT MAYBE ALL OF US. AT THE SAME TIME AND OPPORTUNITY. SOME, UM, DISCUSSIONS THAT, UM, AND

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SOME QUESTIONS THAT I NEED TO TALK TO MR WILLIAMS ABOUT HE AND I DID NOT COMPLETE, UM. MY CONVERSATION BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT, UM WE HAD TO COME INTO CLOSED SESSION. I NEED TO GET SOME MORE CLARIFICATION ON SOME THINGS. SERIOUSLY. ALL RIGHT. AND HE AND I NEED TO, YOU KNOW, SIT DOWN AND TALK ABOUT SOME THINGS THAT I HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT. ALRIGHT AND THERE'S UM AND WHAT? YOUR TABLE TO A CERTAIN DAY. UM UP THE DATA THERE. UM. WHAT IS THE YEAH, THE SECOND MEETING IN FEBRUARY. ALL RIGHT. ALRIGHT. THAT'S THE MOTION TABLE TO THE SECOND MEETING OF FEBRUARY, UM MADAM CLERK, YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. COUNCIL MEMBER KUPFERBERG. NO I'M VOTING. NO BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY TABLED THIS THING ONCE IS, COUNCILMAN JONES SAID, FOR THE VERY SAME PURPOSE. SO NO COUNCIL MEMBER JONES I WANT TO SAY NO AS WELL. COUNCIL MEMBER, SMITH LEE. COUNCIL MEMBER MYERS COUNCIL MEMBER WESTBROOK. UH, VICE MAYOR HILL. ALL RIGHT.

MAYOR PERM. MOTIONS PASSED THE TABLE INTO THE SECOND MEETING IN FEBRUARY. MAKES A MOVE ON ITEM

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14 NEW BUSINESS ITEM A CONSIDERATION OF A RESOLUTION IN SUPPORT OF A RESOLUTION. 22 ARE FOR NINE AND 22 ARE 50 TO AUTHORIZE. THE EXECUTION, DELIVERY AND PERFORMANCE OF CERTAIN GRANT DOCUMENTS TO ACCEPT FUNDS FROM THE INDUSTRIAL REVITALIZATION FUND ALLOCATED BY THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY. THEY'RE GOING TO ACQUISITION AND DEMOLITION OF THE FORM OF RAMADI IN BUILDING AND THE PROMOTION OF REDEVELOPMENT OF THE LAND, MR MOORE THANK YOU, MR MAYOR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. THERE'S NUMBERS 22 HOUR. 49 22 ARE 50, ALTHOUGH THEIR NUMBERS IT'S SO NICE TO SEE THAT ICON OFF THE ROAD. SO NICE TO SEE THAT DOWN. THIS RESOLUTION OF SUPPORT WOULD BE TO RECEIVE IT'S ALREADY BEEN APPROVED. $1.7 MILLION.07 MILLION DOLLARS FROM THE H C. D.

THERE ARE SEVERAL DOCUMENTS THAT WERE ATTACHED IN YOUR PACKET THAT WE WOULD NEED TO HAVE A VIEWED THERE'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY THERE ARE INTERESTED PARTIES SO FAR IN THAT REDEVELOPMENT. BUT AGAIN HAVING THAT SITE DOWN, IT'S JUST A MONUMENTAL EFFECT FOR THE CITY SO WE WOULD ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT. FOR THE CITY TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION. COUNCILOR WESTBROOK. UH I MOVE THAT WE ADOPT THE RESOLUTION AS PRESENTED. RIGHT. VICE MAYOR HILL SECOND. ALRIGHT WE'LL OPEN THE FLOOR NOW FOR ANY PUBLIC COMMENT. AH ON THE RESOLUTION AND SUPPORT OF THE AUTHORIZATION AND EXECUTION DELIVERY AND PERFORMANCE OF THE GRANT DOCUMENTS FOR THE I R F FUND. FOR THE PURCHASE ACQUISITION DEMOLITION OF THE FORMER RAMADA INN BUILDING, MISS BARBARA RUDOLPH. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, BARB RUDOLPH 16 75 MOUNT VERNON STREET. THAT WAS A PRETTY INTERESTING DOCUMENT IN THE PACKAGE. UM I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO KNOW. MAYBE MR WILLIAMS COULD FIND THIS OUT. BUT DOES THE DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ARE ALL THE CONTRACTS. FOR THE INDUSTRIAL REVITALIZATION FUND MONEY THAT'S BEING GIVEN TO LOCALITIES. ARE THEY ALL WRITTEN LIKE THAT? BECAUSE IF YOU ALL READ IT, UM IT'S VERY. UM THEY D H C D IN THE STATE. OR HAVE A HAVE A LOT OF UM, DISCRETION. TO TAKE MONEY BACK FROM THE CITY. I GUESS THAT'S I DON'T KNOW IF DISCRETION IS THE RIGHT WORD.

MAYBE I SHOULD SAY AUTHORITY. AFTER AFTER THIS IS SIGNED. I'M NOT SAYING THAT'S WRONG OR RIGHT. I'M JUST SAYING, I HOPE THAT YOU ALL ARE AWARE AND YOU'RE NOT JUST VOTING ON THIS BECAUSE IT'S AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA. BUT THAT YOU MAKE YOURSELVES AWARE OF IT BECAUSE IF, UM, IF THERE'S ANYTHING TO STATE QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW THE MONEY IS BEING SPENT, AND HOW THE SITE IS REDEVELOPED. IT'S ALL ABOUT. TAKING MONEY BACK FROM THE CITY, WHICH I AS A CITY

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TAXPAYER. I'M CONCERNED ABOUT I BELIEVE I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE THAT WOULD BE CONCERNED ABOUT IT. AND IT IS A HIGH VISIBILITY PROJECTS SO I SUGGEST THAT YOU ALL BEING VERY CAUTIOUS ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE SIGNING, AND ALSO, IT WOULD. IT WOULD BE A GOOD THING TO BE, UM, MAYBE TO COME BACK AND PRESENT SOME OF THIS PUBLICLY TO TALK ABOUT. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? NOT JUST TO SAY THERE ARE PLANS BUT TO ACTUALLY COME UP WITH SOME SOMETHING SUBSTANTIVE ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON JUST TO REASSURE ALL OF US THAT IT IS PROCEEDING AND THAT THE STATE WILL BE SATISFIED THAT THE MONEY THAT THEY'VE GIVEN TO PETERSBURG THE 1.7 MILLION PLUS THE 250,000 LEVERAGE MONEY THAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT GIVING US THAT THEY ARE THAT THEY THAT THE STATE IS SATISFIED THAT WE'VE DONE OUR PART. THANKS. RIGHT, SAYING NO MORE HANDS. PUBLIC COMMENT IS CLOSED. UM NEXT. FROM FROM MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. ON THE RESOLUTION. ALL RIGHT. MADAM CLERK. CAN YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? ZIMMERMAN CUTHBERT. AH! COUNCIL MEMBER JONES. I BATHROOM MEMBER, SMITH LEE. I NEVER MYERS OKAY? 1000 NUMBER WESTBROOK. BY MAYOR HILL. PERM. BY PAST. ALRIGHT NEXT IS CONSIDERATION OF APPOINTMENTS TO THE CENTRAL VIRGINIA WASTE MANAGEMENT AUTHORITY BOARD.

MR MAYOR. YES WE'RE THE DEPARTURE OF OUR PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR WE'RE ASKING THAT MR ENNIS BE APPOINTED AS THE PRIMARY REPRESENTATIVE TO THE CBW MAY BOARD MR RANDALL WILLIAMS BE APPOINTED AS THE ALTERNATE. VICE MAYOR HILL. MOVED AWAY. APPOINTMENTS IN THIS IS THE PRIMARY AND MR RANDALL WILLIAMS AS THE ALTERNATE. OKAY SO MEYERS OKAY. SECOND. ALL RIGHT, MADAM CLERK AND PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. CATHERINE RECOVERED. AH NUMBER JONES, I REMEMBER SMITH LEE I COUNCIL MEMBER MYERS NUMBER WESTBROOK, VICE MAYOR HILL. I PASSED.

THANKS IS ITEM C CONSIDERATION OF REAPPOINTMENT TO THE PETERSBURG REDEVELOPMENT HOUSING AUTHORITY BOY. COUNCILMAN COVER BIRTH. I MOVE THAT WE ADOPT THE RESOLUTION THAT APPEARS ON PAGE 204. OF OUR AGENDA PACKET. UM. TO APPOINT MICHAEL MASSARO'S. AS A MEMBER OF THE PETERSBURG REDEVELOPMENT AND HOUSING AUTHORITY. I SECOND ALRIGHT, COUNCILMAN. JONES HAS THE SECOND AND DISCUSSION. YEAH COUNCILMAN SMITH LEE? YES, I WOULD LIKE TO, UM RECOMMEND ANGELA DANCE. OKAY? IT'S ONLY 11 VACANCY, RIGHT? SO WAS THAT A SUBSTITUTE MOTION? YES. COUNCILOR BIAS. ALRIGHT THAT'S MISTER MR MAYOR. YES COUNSELOR COVER FULLY UNDERSTAND, UH ARE THERE WARD LIMITATIONS ON PEOPLE WHO CAN SERVE ON THIS POINT? ALL RIGHT. THERE ARE NO WAR LIMITATIONS.

ALL THE, UM, APPOINTMENTS ARE AT LARGE SEATS. OKAY? THANK YOU. OKAY? I'M GLAD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. COUNCIL MEMBER, CUTHBERT. 1000 MEMBER JONES. NO. REMEMBER SMITH LEE I COUNCIL MEMBER MYERS. CALCIUM OF THE WESTBROOK, VICE MAYOR HILL. YOU'RE VOTING ON ANGELA DANE.

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MAYOR PERM. MAYOR PER YEAH. ALL RIGHT. VICE MAYOR HILL. AH! THAT MOTION IS PASSED. NEXT WEEK, MR MAYOR, I AM D. YES SO THAT MAKE IF I CAN ASK FOR DISCUSSION PURPOSES, RIGHT QUICK, SO THAT MAKES SEVEN MEMBERS. HEAVILY OVERHEAD ALTERNATE. MR MAYOR EVERYWHERE HAVE WE EVER HAD AN ALTERNATE? I PROPOSE THAT WE HAVE AN ALTERNATE. AH! IF I'M IN ORDER, MR. DO WE HAVE TO CAN CHANGE THE CODE FOR THAT? WE MAY HAVE TO CHANGE THE CODE AUTHORIZED. THAT'S RIGHT. WELL WE HAVE THIS DISCUSSION WHEN WE HAVE A WORKSHOP. WHEN IT COMES TO BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. THANK YOU. EXCESS ITEM D CONSIDERATION OF A RESOLUTION AMENDING THE FISCAL YEAR 2022 23 OF THE OPERATING BUDGET FOR THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. MR MAYOR, MR. MAYOR. WE'VE RECEIVED A REQUEST FROM SHERIFF CRAWFORD. TO AMEND HER BUDGET TO REINSTATE ONE OF HER PART TIME AND FULL TIME POSITIONS BACK TO THE BUDGET THAT WERE ELIMINATED DURING THE BUDGET AMENDMENT PROCESS. THE TOTAL ADDITIONAL FUNDING THAT WOULD BE PUT BACK IN HER BUDGET IS $85,881. SEE THE SHERIFF THIS EVENING, BUT SHE DID SUBMIT THAT REQUEST AND WE'RE BRINGING THAT FORWARD FOR CONSIDERATION. TAKE COUNSELOR MYERS MOVIE. VICE MAYOR HILL SECOND. MADAM CLERK, YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROOM. REMEMBER, KUPFERBERG AH. AWESOME OVER JONES. I REMEMBER SMITH LEE.

COUNCIL MEMBER MYERS COUNCIL MEMBER WESTBROOK, VICE MAYOR HILL, ALL RIGHT PAST. SEPARATION OF AN APPROPRIATION ORDINANCE FOR D. C J S OPERA, LAW ENFORCEMENT, EQUIPMENT AND TECHNOLOGY. CHIEF.

GREEN WAS MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. UM I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF ME. BUT THIS IS FOR THE RECEIVE A LOVE THE CCGS OPERA GRANT FUNDED 749,000. I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT AMOUNT 77 49 900 YOU'RE ON THE DOT $749,900 FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT TECHNOLOGY UPGRADES. OKAY, VICE, MY HEEL. I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE. FUNDS FOR THE APPROPRIATION WHERE ARE MOVED THAT WERE APPROPRIATE. UH MOVE THAT WERE APPROVED THE ORDINANCE FOR THE D. C J S OPERA, LAW ENFORCEMENT EQUIPMENT AND TECHNOLOGY. COUNCILMAN. MYERS. ALRIGHT, MADAM COLLECTING. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. MAMA CUTHBERT, COUNCIL MEMBER JONES MEMBER, SMITH LEE.

AH COUNCIL MEMBER MYERS COUNCIL MEMBER WESTBROOK, VICE MARY HILL PERM MOTIONS PASSED. THIS ITEM AFTER CONSIDERATION OF RESOLUTION TO DIRECTOR CITY MANAGER TO COMMENCE THE PROCESS TO DESIGNATE A PORTION OF HIGH STREET AS AN AUGMENTED FINE STREET AND REDUCE THE SPEED LIMIT AND SAID PORTION FROM 25 TO 20 MPH. RIGHT COUNSELOR. MYERS FAMILIAR HADN'T THOUGHT IT WOULD BE ON HERE, BUT WE WANTED TO MOVE IT TO THE CITY ATTORNEY'S LEICESTER CITY ATTORNEY WANTS TO TAKE IT AT THIS TIME. YEAH I CAN TALK ABOUT NOW. THIS WAS GOING TO ACTUALLY BE YOUR FIRST GREEN SHEETED ITEM , WHICH IS WHY HE HAD IT IN FRONT OF YOU MADE IT ON THE AGENDA NONETHELESS, SO I CAN JUST FILL YOU IN, UM COUNCILMAN MYERS RECEIVED TWO PETITIONS FROM HIS CONSTITUENTS REQUESTING TWO THINGS, ONE THAT, UM, DESIGNATE A PORTION OF HIGH

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STREET BETWEEN MARKET STREET AND SOUTH STREET AS A AUGMENTED FINE STREET, WHICH BASICALLY WE HAVE A PROVISION UNDER OUR CITY CODE. THAT ALLOWS A FINE TO BE IMPOSED ADDITIONAL $200 ON TOP OF THE SPEEDING FINE FOR AREAS THAT ARE SPECIFICALLY DESIGNATED AS AUGMENTED FINE STREETS. AND THE PROCESS FOR THAT REQUIRES, UM EITHER THAT YOU DO A TRAFFIC STUDY OR THAT YOU HAVE A FINDING BY YOUR POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT IT'S WARRANTED. AND TODAY THIS AFTERNOON, IN FACT, IN FRONT OF YOU, CHIEF CHRISTIAN DELIVERED SUCH A LETTER INDICATING THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT SUPPORTS THAT FINDING UM AND SO HE'S MET THE CRITERIA FOR HAVING THAT AUGMENTED FINE STREET. HE'S ASKED THAT THAT BE DONE. HE'S ASKED THAT, UH THE INITIATE THE PROCESS OR HAVE THE CITY MANAGER INITIATE THE PROCESS FOR LOWERING THE SPEED IN THAT AREA. AND HE'S ALSO ASKED THAT I LOOK AT THAT PROVISION OF CITY CODE AND BRING BACK A PRESENTATION TO POSSIBLY AMEND THAT TO ENABLE COUNCIL TO, UM, IMPOSED THE AUGMENTED FINE STREET ON ALL CITY OWNED AND OPERATED STREETS THROUGHOUT THE CITY WITH A LESSER CRITERIA FOR MAKING THAT DETERMINATION, SO THERE'S A RESOLUTION IN THAT PACKAGE THAT DOES ALL OF THAT. UM IF COUNCIL SO CHOOSES, AND I'VE ALSO PROVIDE THE SUPPLEMENT THE SUPPLEMENTAL OR THE CODE SECTIONS THAT EXPLAINED THAT AS WELL. THANK YOU. COUNCILOR MICE, MR. MAYOR, WOULD YOU LIKE SOME OF THE RESIDENTS TO COME UP AND TALK ABOUT THE EXPERIENCES THEY'VE HAD, WE CAN LIMIT IT TO THE PRESIDENT OF THEIR ASSOCIATION. IF YOU DON'T MIND. THANK YOU. AND MR DALE PITTMAN AS WELL. ALL RIGHT. I THINK THERE'S TWO OTHERS IS AS WELL, UM, FIRST OF ALL, I'D LIKE TO SINCERELY THANK YOU. ALL MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL FOR TAKING THE FIRST STEP TO ADDRESS THE ONGOING ISSUE OF SPEEDING ON HIGH STREET. FOR YEARS. WE'VE HAD PROBLEMS WITH SPEEDERS ON OUR STREET TRAFFIC STUDY THAT WAS PERFORMED ABOUT SIX YEARS AGO STATED THAT THE AVERAGE RATE OF SPEED WAS 35 MPH. AS ONE OF THE LARGEST PURELY RESIDENTIAL STREETS AND OLD TOWN. THIS IS AND HAS BEEN A MAJOR ISSUE FOR THE RESIDENTS ON THE STREET. SINCE I WAS ELECTED PRESIDENT OF THE HIGH STREET ASSOCIATION IN 2020. I PROMISED MY NEIGHBORS THAT I WOULD ADVOCATE FOR THE RESIDENTS SAFETY. OVER THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF. I HAVE ATTENDED WORKGROUPS ON SPEEDING WITH OTHER CITIZENS THROUGHOUT THE CITY THAT WERE SPONSORED BY COUNCILMAN MYERS AND CUTHBERT, THE PRIOR CITY MANAGER AND CHIEF CHRISTIAN AND WAS PLEASED TO SEE THE CITY COUNCIL'S RESOLUTION ON HOW TO ADDRESS REDUCING THE SPEED LIMIT AND AN INCREASING THE FINES PASSED LAST JULY. ONCE PASSING MY NEIGHBORS ON THE STREET, ALONG WITH COUNCILMAN MYERS HELP WORK TOGETHER TO GATHER THE SIGNATURES SEEN BEFORE YOU ON THESE TWO POSITIONS. TWO PETITIONS, AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE IS OVERWHELMING SUPPORT FOR THIS EFFORT. TO CLOSE WHILE MY NEIGHBORS AND I ARE HOPEFUL THAT THE REDUCED SPEED LIMIT AND INCREASED FINES WILL DETER SPEEDERS ON HIGH STREET, WE DO NOT GENUINELY BELIEVE THAT THESE TWO THINGS ALONE WILL BE THE END OF OUR TO OUR SPEEDING PROBLEMS. AND WE HOPE THAT THE MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL BEFORE US WILL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE HIGH STREET ASSOCIATION TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE GOING FORWARD, AND I WILL CAVEAT THAT IF YOU GUYS WILL ALLOW 75% OF THE STREET TO SIGN A PETITION FOR SPEED BUMPS, WE WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO DO THAT AS WELL. THANK YOU. OKAY? WITH THE CHIPPING. GOOD AFTERNOON. I'M DALE 14 HIGH STREET. UM I HAVE LIVED IN PETERSBURG FOR ABOUT 45 YEARS. THIS, UH SPEEDING AND RECKLESS DRIVING. THAT BRINGS US HERE TONIGHT. IT'S BEEN A LONG STANDING PROBLEM WHERE I LIVE ON HIGH STREET. MANY OF, YOU KNOW, WALK EVERYWHERE I GO AND I SEE THIS ALL THE TIME. IT'S WIDESPREAD. IT'S A DIVERSITY OF DRIVERS. IT DOES. AGE. GENDER RACE, ETHNICITY. IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE THAT PEOPLE ARE TREATING IT LIKE THERE AT VIRGINIA MOTORSPORTS, UH, ANYTIME, DAY OR NIGHT. IT'S EXTREMELY DANGEROUS. WE HAVE SMALL CHILDREN. WHEN I FIRST MOVED THEIR MASS MULCH, CHILDREN ARE GROUND, BUT WE THANK GOODNESS HAVE MORE NEW SMALL CHILDREN ON HAY STREET. EVERY DAY. WE HAVE DISABLED PEOPLE WE HAVE ELDERLY PEOPLE. YOU'RE TALKING TO ONE OF THEM, AND, UH I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT THE HIGH STREET ASSOCIATION HAS WORKED REALLY HARD WITH REGULAR CONTACT ON THIS. COUNCILMAN MYERS HAS BEEN, I THINK, 23 OR MORE MEETINGS TO LOOK AT THIS WITH US, UH, RECENTLY INDEPENDENT THEY'VE BEEN HERE. CHIEF

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CHRISTIAN, I THINK IF MEMORY SERVES HAS BEEN TO AT LEAST TWO AND I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION. AND I HOPE YOU'LL, UH LOOK AT THIS FAVORABLY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU. ALRIGHT? YES, MA'AM. YES. LOOKS. BUT EVENING, EVERYONE I AM MARY BULLOCK AND I'M ON THE NEW OWNER OF THE DOBSON DODSON TAVERN AT 3 11 HIGH STREET AND VERY HONORED TO LIVE BACK IN PETERSBURG. I LIVED HERE WHEN I WAS IN MY TWENTIES. SO THAT'S LIKE 40 SOME YEARS AGO , AND I'M REALLY GLAD TO LIVE HERE. UM, I WOULD DO WANT TO SAY THAT WHEN I TOLD MY FRIENDS BLACK AND WHITE THAT I WAS MOVING FROM CHESTERFIELD TO PETERSBURG THEY SAID, WHY IN THE WORLD WOULD YOU DO THAT? AND I SAID I LOVE PETERSBURG. I LOVE OLD TOWN. I LOVE EVERYTHING ABOUT PETERSBURG. SO I'M HERE TO HELP YOU IMPROVE THE CITY. UM AND I DO BELIEVE IT TAKES A COMMUNITY TO DO THAT. UM WE HAVE A CAMERA AT OUR HOUSE. I AM AT 3 11. SO I'M HAVE DIRECT ACCESS TO, UM WHAT IS THAT DAVIS RIGHT THERE SO I CAN SEE CARS SPEEDING UP AND DOWN THE STREET, BUT THEY PICK UP SPEED COMING DOWN THE STREET AND I HAVE A LOT OF CAMERA FOOTAGE, ESPECIALLY OF PEOPLE GOING THROUGH THE STOP SIGN, BUT ALSO OF SPEEDING THROUGH THE INTERSECTION.

SPEEDING DOWN HIGH STREET. UM, I HAVE A SON THAT YOU MIGHT SEE WALKING AROUND PETERSBURG. HE'S A 30 YEAR OLD MALE. AND HE'S TOTALLY BLIND. HE HAS A GUIDE DOG THAT YOU MIGHT SEE AROUND TOWN WITH HIM AS HER NAME IS ALICE. AND SHE'S A YELLOW LAB AND YOU MIGHT SEE HIM ALSO WITH HIS CANE, AND HE HAS NO LIGHT PERCEPTION AT ALL. AND UM, SO I AM PARTICULARLY CONCERNED ABOUT , UM, THE GENTLEMAN THAT SPOKE THAT LIVES ON OLD STREET. I AM AN OCCUPATIONAL THERAPIST AND I WORK HAVE WORKED IN REHAB FOR 43 YEARS. AND SO MY PASSION IS TO HELP PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES LIVE JUST LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE DOES. SO I AM VERY, VERY INTERESTED IN MAKING PETERSBURG IS SAFER CITY FOR ALL AND ESPECIALLY FOR PEOPLE FOR JUST WITH DISABILITIES. HIGH STREET IS A, UM, YOU KNOW, PARKING ON ONE SIDE OF THE STREET, SO PEOPLE ARE CONSTANTLY GETTING IN AND OUT OF THEIR CARS. UM AND SO I JUST I GUESS I WANT TO APPEAL TO YOU THAT UM, TO REDUCE THE SPEED LIMIT AND INCREASE THE FINE WOULD BE IN MY OPINION, A GOOD THING TO DO, UM AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. AND I'M GLAD TO BE HERE. THANK YOU. NICHOLSON. GOOD EVENING, CITY COUNCIL MAYOR, VICE MAYOR. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO SPEAK FIRST. I WANT TO THANK KELSEY JEWEL FOR BEING A DOING A TREMENDOUS JOB AS OUR HIGH STREET ASSOCIATION PRESIDENT THESE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS AND REALLY GETTING THINGS DONE. SECONDLY WE HAVE TO REALLY THANK OUR COUNCILMAN MYERS FOR, UH, MAKING THINGS HAPPEN AND THE STAFF THAT YOU HAVE AT THE CITY WITH THE SIDEWALKS AND THE OTHER SAFETY ISSUES THAT WE FACED ON OUR STREET. THEIR RESPONSIVENESS IS JUST BEEN SPECTACULAR. SO I THANK YOU FOR THAT. THE SPEEDING ON HIGH STREET IS A TERRIBLE ISSUE, PARTICULARLY AS YOU'RE HEADING EAST ON HIGH STREET AND COMING DOWN THE HILL. I'VE GOT THE ROW HOUSE NEXT TO THE FAMOUS PARCEL OF LAND WHERE ALL THOSE PEOPLE TONIGHT AND, UM I HAVE THE THOMAS DAY HOUSE AND THE TRAFFIC GOING DOWN THERE AND BARELY STOPPING AT THE STOP SIGN IS OF GRAVE CONCERN, PARTICULARLY WITH THE INCREASE OF PEDESTRIANS IN THE AREA. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER, AND LET'S HOPE THAT WE CAN GET IT RESOLVED. ALSO LIKE TO SAY ON AN UNRELATED TOPIC IF I MAY THAT TODAY, UM ON OUR BOARD OF DIRECTORS CALL FOR THE BARBER SINATRA CHILDREN'S CENTER AS A RESULT OF THE SUCCESS OF THE EXHIBIT THAT WE HAD WITH BEVERLY JOHNSON AT THE PETERSBURG AREA ART LEAGUE. WE ARE NOW IN TALKS WITH THE GUGGENHEIM AND THE METROPOLITAN MUSEUM OF ART TO DO OUR EXHIBIT AT THOSE TWO PLACES BECAUSE OF THE SUCCESS OF THE 884 PEOPLE THAT WE HAD WALKED THROUGH THE DOORS AT POWELL, UH AND I THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR SUPPORT FOR THAT ON BEHALF OF PAL AND ALSO TO SHERIFF CRAWFORD. SO LET ME THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME THROW THAT IN. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MHM ALRIGHT, COUNSELOR. MYERS MR. MAYOR. I'M GONNA ASK THE CITY ATTORNEY TOO. HELP ME TO PHRASE HOW HE WANTS ME. TO ARTICULATE THIS. DOES HE WANT BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED OR BEING FURTHER SOLVED OR RESOLVED? UM, FOR NOT ONLY THE CITY MANAGER BUT THEN THE CITY ATTORNEY AS WELL. I THINK IF YOU JUST MOVED TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION THAT'S IN THE PACKAGE THAT WILL COVER IT ALL. YEAH, THAT'S MY USUAL ROUTE. BUT ANYWAY, I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU, UH MR CITY ATTORNEY FOR DOING THIS FOR ME AND

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LISTEN, I HAVE TO TELL YOUR LATE NIGHT CALL WITH MR CHARLIE CUTHBERT. COUNCILMAN CUTS BIRTH.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR HELPING SUPPORT THIS, UM I KNOW THAT THIS IS DEAR AND VERY IMPORTANT TO YOU. AND HOPEFULLY THIS THE ROAD THAT WE TOOK TO GET HERE TODAY. WOULD ALLOW US TO EXTEND THIS WITHOUT GOING THROUGH THIS ENTIRE PROCESS AGAIN THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF PETERSBURG, WHERE THE NEED IT IS NECESSARY. SO I WANT TO SAY, UM I MOVE THAT WE ADOPT THE RESOLUTION IS WRITTEN, UH. AND PROVIDED BY THE CITY ATTORNEY. THANK YOU. MAYOR HILL SECOND RIGHT? MR MAYOR, COUNCILOR COVER, I THINK COUNSELING MYERS FOR THE SHADOW. UM. I DID WORK WITH HIM, AND IT WAS MY PRIVILEGE TO DO SO. AND IT'S ALWAYS GREAT TO SEE MEMBERS OF COUNCIL WORKING TOGETHER AS A TEAM. SOMETHING THAT I THINK WE SPEAK ABOUT AND SOMETHING THAT THAT FREQUENTLY HAPPENS. UM. YEP THIS RAISES AN INTERESTING TOPIC . AND THAT IS WHAT DO WE DO ABOUT SPEEDBOATS? REDUCED SPEED IS I WANT IT. I'M VOTING FOR IT. AH! OH, OLD MENDED FINES. I WANT IT. I'M VOTING FOR IT. BUT IT TAKES POLICEMAN. TO WRITE THE TICKETS. AND WE'RE SHORT STAFFED. SO IS THERE A OF SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO THAT KIND OF IS SELF ENFORCING. AND I'M SITTING HERE ASKING MYSELF THAT AND I'M THINKING, YES, IT MAY WELL BE. THEY WILL BE SPEED BUMPS. AH YOU KNOW, SPEED BUMPS . YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A POLICEMAN, TOO. TO JOSTLE THE CAR. UH THE DRIVER JOSTLES THE CAR. AH! AND IT HAPPENS AT TWO AM THREE AM FOUR AM WHENEVER THE CAR IS SPEEDING. SO IT'S SELF EXECUTING. IT DOESN'T TAKE A POLICEMAN AWAY FROM THERE'S BEAT. WRITING A TICKET, ALTHOUGH I'D LOVE TO SEE THAT HAPPEN, AND I WANT TO SEE IT HAPPEN, AND I'M NOT DISCOURAGING THAT IN ANY WAY AND I THINK CHIEF QUESTION WHEN IT DOES HAPPEN, AND CHIEF CHRISTIAN HAS BEEN REMARKABLY RESPONSIVE. WHENEVER I'VE ASKED HIM, I ASKED THE CITY MANAGER TO ASK HIM, WOULD YOU PLEASE DO, UH , SPOT SPEED ENFORCEMENT IN A PARTICULAR AREA? AH AND THEY DO , BUT IT ONLY LASTS FOR A BRIEF WHILE AND THEN. UNDERSTANDABLY THE POLICE HAVE TO MOVE ON, AND THERE'S NO ONE THERE TO WRITE THE TICKET. THERE'S NOT GONNA BE ANYBODY ON HIGH STREET TO WRITE THE TICKET IF SOMEONE IGNORES THE REDUCTION FROM 20 TO 25 THERE'S NOT GONNA BE ANYBODY TO WRITE THE TICKET THAT DOUBLES THE FINE. OH, MUCH OF THE TIME. SO UM, MR CITY MANAGER OF DO YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS AS WE HEARD TONIGHT FROM HOW MANY PEOPLE AND JUST TONIGHT? THAT SPEED BUMPS WOULD BE A GREAT IDEA BECAUSE IT'S INTUITIVELY LOGICAL. AND AS I SAY, SELF ENFORCING, UH, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT HAPPEN.

MR CITY MANAGER. DO YOU HAVE ANY ANY RESPONSE TO THAT? AH YES, SIR. COUNSELOR CUTHBERT INSIDE.

PROBABLY NOT GOING TO BE THE POPULAR RESPONSE. JUST FROM A BASIC TRENDS, TRAFFIC.

ENGINEERING PERSPECTIVE. SPEED BUMPS ARE ONE OF THE LAST THINGS THAT ARE TYPICALLY UTILIZE, AND THAT ARE VERY MUCH DISCOURAGED BY A TRAFFIC ENGINEERING IN TODAY'S WORLD. AH JUST THEY PRESENT A SET OF DIFFERENT ISSUES. UM BUT I THINK CHIEF CHRISTIAN AND I HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH REGARD TO TRYING TO ESTABLISH AND PURCHASE SOME. YOU KNOW HOW ONE WASHINGTON STREET. AS YOU GO CLOSE TO THE GOVERNOR SCHOOL, THERE'S THE SPEED LIMIT SIGN THERE THAT FLASHES WHEN YOU GO BY. THERE'S ALSO ENFORCEMENT TRAILERS THAT YOU CAN GET THAT WILL INDICATE YOUR SPEED. TAKE A PHOTOGRAPH AND YOU CAN GET A TICKET. SO WE ARE LOOKING AT WHAT WE CAN DO FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE TO TRY TO ENFORCE SPEED WITHOUT ACTUALLY HAVING TO HAVE OFFICERS OUT. AND IT ALLOWS YOU TO DO THAT IN DIFFERENT AREAS, SO THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH REGARD TO SPEED ENFORCEMENT IN THE CITY, RESPOND TO THAT MY UNDERSTANDING IS QUITE DIFFERENT FROM YOURS. UH AS FAR AS TAKING PHOTOGRAPHS OF SPEEDERS. UM I THINK THE STATE'S STATUTE ALLOWS THAT ONLY IN SCHOOL ZONES AND PRESUMABLY DURING SCHOOL HOURS.

SO LET'S SAY THAT MATHEMATICS REGIONAL GOVERNORS SCHOOL AT TWO AM ON A SATURDAY NIGHT. I DON'T THINK WE CAN DO THAT. BUT DIFFER TO, UH DO YOU KNOW? THEN I ANSWER TO THAT, MR WILLIAMS OFF

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THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD. DON'T THINK YOU CAN DO IT FOR ENFORCEMENT PURPOSES, EXCEPT FROM THE AREAS YOU'VE DESIGNATED CORRECT. AND I THINK IT'S GOT TO BE SCHOOLS IN ACTIVE USE. AND WE CERTAINLY CAN'T DO IT ON HIGH STREET BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A SCHOOL. SO I MEAN, IT'S A GREAT IDEA AND AGAIN, ONE THAT WOULD YOU KNOW INSTINCTIVELY MAKES SENSE. BUT, UM A BIG BROTHER IN RICHMOND TIES OUR HANDS. UM SO YOU KNOW, SPEED BUMPS MAY BE THE LAST RESORT, BUT I'M AT LAST. I.

THIS SEEMS TO FIT RIGHT IN THE PIGEONHOLE TITLED LAST RESORT. THIS IS WHERE IT GOES, SPEED BUMPS. UM. SO UM, NOW, THIS RESOLUTION THAT WE HAVE BEFORE US, UH, I THINK IT SAYS SOMETHING ABOUT UH, THE LAST PARAGRAPH. BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT THE CITY ATTORNEY IS HEREBY DIRECTED TO BRING FORTH FORWARD RECOMMENDATIONS FOR CONSIDERATION BY COUNCIL AT ITS NEXT MEETING IN FEBRUARY SOON THEREAFTER AS PRACTICABLE. TO AMEND THESE STATUES. WELL, THAT'S GREAT. UM, BUT AH! YEAH. LET ME LET ME TRY TO PUT SOME SPECIFICS TO THIS. UM, MR CITY MANAGER, WOULD YOU BRING MAY WE PUT THIS ON THIS TOPIC ON THE AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION AT ALL FEBRUARY SEVEN WORK SESSION. LET'S LET'S JUST LEAVE IT AT THAT. AND, UH, IF OH LAST RESORT MEANS IN MY MIND. IT IS PERMISSIBLE. UM SO AND I'VE NEVER HAD A HUGE AMOUNT OF RESPECT FOR TRAFFIC ENGINEERS. THEY'RE THE ONES THAT TIED UP PETERSBURG WITH ONE WAY STREETS 40 YEARS AGO, SO WE? YOU KNOW, MONROE STREET WAS A ONE WAY STREET AND UNION STREET WAS A ONE WAY STREET. I MEAN, IT WAS NUTS. AND THAT WAS THANKS TO A TRAFFIC ENGINEER. SO I DON'T PUT A. TRAFFIC ENGINEERS A GREAT A GREAT TITLE, BUT TRUST ME. THEY DON'T GRADUATE FROM M I T OKAY.

SO ANY EVENT, UM. MR ALMOND WOOD . LET'S PUT THIS ON OUR FEBRUARY 7TH WORK SESSION AGENDA AND DISCUSSIONS. SPEED BUMPS AT THAT. IF THAT'S WHAT COUNSEL CHEESES. WE DON'T CURRENTLY I DON'T HAVE A PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR UH, BUT I CAN BRING SOMEONE IN TO DISCUSS SPEED BUMPS. THAT'S WHAT COUNCIL WANTS TO DO. ALRIGHT WELL, I GUESS WE'VE GOT EMOTION ON THE TABLE.

UH ONCE WE VOTE ON THAT, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE DISCUSSED THIS AT OUR WORK SESSION ON FEBRUARY SEVEN, IF THAT'S PERMISSIBLE. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE PHONE TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION. AT THIS TIME. WELL COUNSELOR WISE, DIDN'T I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T THANK KELSEY FOR ALL SHE DID TO HELP AND EVERYONE WHO OWNED HIGH STREET AND HELPING TO GET THIS PETITION SIGNED, SO I AND MY NERVOUSNESS I FORGOT TO THANK THEM. SO THANK YOU ALL.

BUT WHAT YOU ALL DID? OKAY BUT CAN I ALSO ADD SOME OF THE MR COOPER? I KNOW I'M TRYING TO GO HOME TO BUT MR CUPBOARD THINK ABOUT NO, NO. THINK ABOUT THE ISSUES WITH UM. THINK ABOUT RUMBLE STRIPS OR INVERTED SPEED BUMPS. BECAUSE. THEY DO DESTROY APPARATUSES AS THEY FLY THROUGH THE STREET. TO TAKE CARE OF OUR EMERGENCY SITUATION, SO I GUESS THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN DISCUSS IT THE NEXT MEETING, BUT LOOK AT THE ALTERNATIVES TO THE SPEED BUMP AND LOOK AT ALTERNATIVES OR RUMBLE STRIPS. THERE'S A POSSIBILITY. WELL, THOSE ARE GOOD POINTS AND, UH, LET'S VOTE ON THIS AND THEN LET'S CONTINUE THIS DISCUSSION ON FEBRUARY SEVEN, MOVE THAT AS A SEPARATE MOTION AFTER WE VOTE ON THIS ONE ALRIGHT. PROMOTION TO SECOND. MADAME CLAIRE, COULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? COUNCIL MEMBER SALZBURG COUNCIL MEMBER JONES SMITH LEE COUNCIL MEMBER MYERS COUNCIL MEMBER WESTBROOK. VICE MARY HILL. PERM RIGHT PAST BACK TO COUNCILMAN COVER. I MOVE THAT WE PUT ON OUR WORK SESSION AGENDA, A DISCUSSION LED BY THE CITY MANAGER OF SPEED BUMPS, SPEED DIPS. RUMBLE STRIPS. AND ANY OTHER. SELF ENFORCING WAYS OF SLOWING TRAFFIC THAT DO NOT REQUIRE THE ACTIVE PRESENCE OF A POLICE OFFICER. COUNCILMAN JONES SECOND ALL RIGHT. ADAM CLAYTON.

PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. TALISMAN EFFORT. REMEMBER JONES, SMITH, LEE GASOL MEMBER, MYERS

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WESTBROOK, VICE MAYOR HILL PERM PAST ALRIGHT. NEXT MOVE ON TO THE CITY MANAGER'S REPORT, MR

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ALTMAN ANY ITEMS TONIGHT? NEW ITEMS THIS EVENING, BUT I DO WANT TO NOTE FOR THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE AND THOSE THAT MAY BE LISTENING ON THE SEVENTH. WE WILL HAVE DAVENPORT'S HERE TO PROVIDE A PRESENTATION TO COUNCIL ON OUR FISCAL STRENGTH SO THAT HOPEFULLY WILL OVERSHADOW THE DISCUSSION OF SPEED BUMPS BECAUSE THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT, BUT I JUST WANT TO LET FOLKS KNOW THAT THAT WE WILL HAVE TO HAVE IMPORT HERE THAT DAY. EIGHT. THANK YOU NEXT BUSINESS OF REPORTS FROM THE CLERK, MISS LUCAS. I HAVE NO ITEMS. THANKS IS BUSINESS OF REPORTS FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY? NO ANSWER, MR MAYOR. NEXT IS ITEM 18, A GERMAN. ALL RIGHT ALL IN FAVOR.

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