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THAT CONCLUDES OUR CLOSED SESSION MEETING. NOW WE'RE ROLLING ONTO REGULAR SCHEDULE WORK SESSION. FOR MARCH 7TH 2023 . GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. THANK EVERYONE FOR COMING OUT. WE'RE

[1. Roll Call]

READY TO GET STARTED. MADAM CLERK, CAN YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? COUNCIL MEMBER CUTHBERT COUNCIL MEMBER JONES YEAH. SMITH LEE PRESIDENT CATHERINE OF ADMIRES NUMBER WESTBROOK PRESENT . VICE MAYOR HILL MAYOR PERN HERE. NEXT IS OPENING PRAYER. VICE MARY HERE WILL LEAD US IN THE OPENING PRAYER. LET US PRAY. THEY HAVE IN THEIR FATHER'S ONCE AGAIN WE COME BEFORE YOU, LORD.

FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR THAT MANY GIFTS AND BLESSINGS THAT YOU HAVE BESTOWED UPON US AND OUR FAMILIES THAT WE ASK THAT YOU BE IN THIS MEETING HEAVEN AND FATHER AND BLESS US THAT WE WOULD DO THINGS AND DECENCY AND ORDER IN YOUR NAME. WE ASK THAT YOU WOULD BLESS OUR CITIZENS. 70 FATHER, WE ASK THAT YOU BLESS ALL THOSE EMPLOYEES WHO WORK FOR THE CITY. WE ASK THAT YOU HAVE BLESSED OUR MINISTRATIONS AND THIS COUNCIL HEAVENLY FATHER, WE ASK THAT YOU KEEP YOUR ANGELS AROUND THIS CITY AND THE TRI CITIES HAVING A FATHER. WE GIVE YOUR NAME ON APPRAISING GLORY IS IN YOUR NAME. WE PRAY AND WE THANK YOU. AMEN. AMEN. COULD EVERYONE PLEASE STAND AND JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE OF LEADERS? PLEASURE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG. THE UNITED STATES. AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IS THERE. ONE DAY SAID. AND THE GUY WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE ROLE. ITEM.

[5. Public Comments]

FOUR DETERMINATION OF THE PRESENCE OF A QUORUM. WE DO HAVE A QUORUM NEXT MOVE ON TO ITEM FIVE, WHICH IS PUBLIC COMMENTS. ANYONE. FIND OUT. WE HAVE, UM MISSING ELAINE MITCHELL. OKAY LET'S MOVE ON TO MR GARY TALLY. MR RICHARD STEWART IS HERE. GOOD EVENING. DOING GOOD. MY NAME RICHARD A. STEWART AND I LIVE IN 1 29 RAW STREET AND I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT. I'M STILL CONCERNED ABOUT SPEED ON APPLE MAC, UH, ON THIS KINGSBRIDGE AND OUR SPAN POLICE DEPARTMENT IS DOING A GOOD JOB. ALSO I FIND POLICE DEPARTMENT DOING A GOOD JOB COMING TO PATROL AND POCAHONTAS WOULD FEEL SAFE AND POCKET THE BRIDGE. BUT WHAT I REALLY WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING HAPPENED IN POCAHONTAS TODAY ASKED STILL I CANNOT UNDERSTAND IT, BUT I DO UNDERSTAND IT. WITH THE YOUNG LADY CAME OVER AND SHE'S GONNA BUILD A HOUSE OVER THERE. AND THAT WAS GET TOGETHER SO FORTH AND SO ON. SOME VERY DISTINGUISHED GUESTS. WERE THEY EVEN SOME PEOPLE FROM CITY COUNCIL? WESTBROOK. IT'S MILES AND UM MISS SMITH AND SMILE. OH, THEY WAS OVER THERE. IS THIS THE FUTURE OF POCAHONTAS? ARE WE GETTING READY TO DEVELOP POCAHONTAS? BECAUSE THIS LATER MR GREEN'S HELPS YOU TALKED ABOUT PAVEMENTS AND STREETS AND UPDATE AND SHE TALKED ABOUT THE FORMER ROPER BROTHER. WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO THAT AND SO FORTH, AND SEVERAL AND I JUST I JUST WONDERED. IT EVEN MADE NATIONAL NEWS. ONE OF THE CHANNELS, SOMEBODY CALLED AND TOLD ME BUT I WAS WONDERING IS THIS GOING TO UNIFY THE CITY? I WAS GONNA DIVIDE BECAUSE I DID NOT SEE THE MAYOR. I DID NOT SEE. THE BASE MAIL. AND THEN I SEE MR COVERED COUNCILMAN OF THE WALL. SO WHAT IS HAPPENING? WHEN YOU OPEN THE I THINK ANDREW STREET BRIDGE, EVERYBODY THERE.

WHAT COULD NOT SEE EVERYBODY BETTER DAY. I AM CONCERNED ABOUT . IS THIS THE FUTURE OF POCAHONTAS? AS THIS THE FALL. POCAHONTAS. HOW IS CITY COUNCIL DIVIDED WHAT? EVERYBODY WASN'T IN THE CITY COUNCIL AT THE MEETING OVER THERE IN POCAHONTAS, I THINK. POINT OF ORDER, MR MR MAYOR. MAYOR? YES. MR STEWART. I HAD AN APPOINTMENT . IF YOU KNEW I VOTED FOR THE YOUNG LADY TO HAVE, UH, THAT PROPERTY OPEN, AND I THINK THE MAYOR DID AS WELL. SO THERE'S NO DIVISION WITH US. WE CAN'T BE EVERYWHERE AT ALL TIMES. SO JUST , YOU KNOW, CLEAR THE AIR SINCE YOU MENTIONED MY POSITION. I WASN'T THERE BECAUSE I HAD AN APPOINTMENT. CAN'T BE EVERYWHERE AT ALL TIMES. I CAN'T SPEAK FOR NOBODY ELSE, BUT I CAN'T SPEAK FOR ME. BUT I DO SUPPORT HER.

AND UH, I'M GLAD MY OTHER ACCOUNT CANNOT. POSSIBLY THERE WILL BE MANY TIMES THAT YOU'LL SEE SOME OF US AT SOME PLACES, AND THAT THEY DON'T MEAN ISN'T IT DIVISION BUT THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONCERNS. APPRECIATE IT. MR MAYOR, IF I MAY COVER FOLLOW UP SINCE I WAS MY NAME WAS MENTIONED ALSO OUR I HAD A PRIOR COMMITMENT AND I'M SORRY. THAT'S THE CASE. BUT WE ALL LEAD SOME

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PRETTY BUSY LIVES. AND I'M AFRAID THAT INTERFERED WITH MY ABILITY TO, UH, TO ATTEND TODAY.

SO THANK YOU, MR MAYOR. THANK YOU. UM NEXT TO THE ANYMORE HANDS. THE PUBLIC COMMENT

[6. Approval of Consent Agenda (to include minutes of previous meetings):]

PERIOD, OKAY? SEEING NONE. WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT ITEM, WHICH IS ITEM SIX, WHICH IS APPROVED THE CONSENT AGENDA TO INCLUDE MINUTES OF PREVIOUS MEETINGS, ITEM, A REQUEST TO SCHEDULE PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE CITY OF PETERSBURG COLD OR ORDINANCES. APPENDIX B ZONING TO ADD DEFINITIONS OF GROUP HOME AND ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY. BE A REQUEST TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING ON MARCH 21ST 2023 FOR THE CONSIDERATION FOR ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A PURCHASE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF PETERSBURG AND ELVIN SNEED TOWARDS THE SALE OF CITY ON PROPERTY AT 1 37 MARKET STREET PARCEL I D 0 TO 2180011. OKAY AND NEXT QUESTION, UM MR WILLIAMS. ITEM C IS CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL OF THE COMMONWEALTH VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY GRANT CONTRACT AND AUTHORIZATION FOR THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE AGREEMENT. DO WE NEED THIS ON THE CARCINOGEN? OR DO YOU WANT TO MOVE THIS JUST TOO OLD OLD BUSINESS? JUST FOR HIM TO SIGN. WE SHOULD NEED A IT COULD BE EITHER A PUBLIC HEARING FOR IT. WE DO NOT NEED A PUBLIC HEARING. OKAY? ALRIGHT SO I'M ASKED THAT WE MOVE ITEMS SEED TO OLD BUSINESS, SO THE CITY MAGIC AND JUST SIGN AND WE DON'T HAVE TO.

ADVERTISE THE EXTRA PUBLIC HEARING. ALL RIGHT. NEXT IS ITEM D REQUEST TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING ON MARCH 21ST 2023 FOR THE CONSIDERATION OR ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGERS TO EXECUTE A PURCHASE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF PETERSBURG AND ANTHONY COTTON TOWARDS THE SALE OF CITY OWNED PROPERTY AT 33 CREATE A ROAD PARCEL ID 012. THAT'S 26 00 TO TWO. ITEM E A REQUEST TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING ON MARCH 21ST 2023 FOR THE CONSIDERATION OF THE ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A PURCHASE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF PETERSBURG AND 1 23 HALIFAX LLC TOWARDS THE CELL OF SITTING ON PROPERTY AT 1 23. HALIFAX STREET PARCEL. I D 022-180. ITEM F REQUEST TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING ON MARCH 21ST 2023 FOR THE CONSIDERATION OF THE ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER AND CITY ATTORNEY TO TAKE ALL NECESSARY ACTION TO FACILITATE THE CONVENIENCE OF AN EASEMENT TO DOMINION ENERGY AT 1 25 NORTH UNION STREET PARCEL ID 011250041. ITEM G, WHICH IS A REQUEST TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING ON MARCH 21ST 2023 PUTTING CONSIDERATION OR ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER CITY ATTORNEY TO TAKE ALL NECESSARY ACTION TO FACILITATE THE CONVEYANCE OF THE EASEMENT TO DOMINION ENERGY AT 9 20, EAST WEST STREET, PARCEL ID 0123400. ITEM H AND REQUESTED SCHEDULED PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION OF THE ORDINANCE. AMENDING THE CITY CODE APPENDIX B. ZONING TEXT TO AMEND ARTICLE FOR A AGRICULTURE DISTRICT REGULATIONS SECTION NINE SPECIAL REQUIREMENTS TO PERMIT A SUBDIVISION THAT CREATES ONE PARCEL. THAT MEANS THE DIMENSION REQUIREMENTS OF LOTS, PARCELS AND THE R ONE A DISTRICT ITEM ARE REQUESTED SCHEDULED PUBLIC HEARING AMENDING THE FY 23 BUDGET TO APPROPRIATE ADDITIONAL LOCAL MATCH FUNDING TO PETERSBURG PUBLIC SCHOOLS IN THE AMOUNT OF 1,665,400 AS WELL AS ADDITIONAL STATE AID RECEIVED FOR THE PETERSBURG LIBRARY AND THE AMOUNT OF $43,178 MARCH. 21ST 2023. ITEM J REQUESTED SCHEDULED PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROPRIATE THE ALLOCATION OF THE SECOND TRENCH OF THE OPERA FUNDING PROVIDED TO THE CITY OF PETERSBURG ITEM K REQUEST FOR THE CONSIDERATION OF AN APPROPRIATION FOR HIGH HAZARD POTENTIAL GRANT AWARD BY THE FEDERAL EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AGENCY AND ALLOCATED BY THE VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF CONSERVATION AND RECREATION IN THE AMOUNT OF 92,000 $137.50 TO BE USED FOR DESIGN COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE ULTIMATE IMPROVEMENTS TO BRING THE WILCOX LAKE DAM INTO COMPLIANCE WITH THE VIRGINIA DAM SAFETY REGULATIONS. FIRST READING. ITEM L REQUEST TO SCHEDULE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE APPROVING THE EXPANSION OF THE LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT REGULATIONS TO INDIVIDUAL PROPERTIES LISTED ON THE ATTACHED LIST THAT ALSO LISTED ON NATIONAL REGISTER OF HISTORIC PLACES, THEREFORE, REQUIRING A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS. THOSE ARE THE ITEMS FOR THE CONSENT AGENDA. MR MAYOR AND. AND CONSENTED AGENT AND WE MOVIN ITEM C TO THE MARCH 21ST MEETING UNDER UNFINISHED BUSINESS. SO. THAT IS THE CONSENT AGENDA WITH THE AMENDMENT FOR ITEM C. ALL RIGHT.

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THE HILL. SO MOVED OKAY? COUNCILWOMAN SMITH LEE SECOND, ALL RIGHT, MADAM CLERK, CAN YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? COUNCIL MEMBER, CUTHBERT, MR MAYOR OR NO. SIX A. TAKE IT THAT THE HEARING IS TO BE SCHEDULED FOR MARCH. 21 OF 2023. IT DOESN'T STATE THAT OKAY. WHAT IS THAT? THE CASE MARCH 21ST 2023 GOOD. UM WELL, IT WOULD BE HELPFUL IF IN THE FUTURE OUR AGENDA STATED THAT AND DIDN'T JUST SAY SCHEDULE OF PUBLIC HEARING THAT GAVE US A DATE. UM HOW I'M GOING TO ABSTAIN BECAUSE OF A CONFLICT OF INTEREST I HAVE ON TWO ITEMS, AND I JUST WANT TO PUT IT ON THE RECORD. WHAT? I'M WHAT I'M DOING THIS SIX F UH, UM, IS, UM, DEALS WITH MY BROTHER'S HOTEL REHAB? AND, UH, I DON'T TECHNICALLY, IN THE EYES OF THE STATE CODE, I DO NOT HAVE A CONFLICT. BECAUSE IMMEDIATE FAMILY IS DEFINED IN VIRGINIA CO 2.2 DAYS, 31. OH, ONE. AS A SPOUSE OR ANY OTHER PERSON WHO RESIDES IN THE SAME HOUSEHOLD AS THE OFFICER OR EMPLOYEE AND WHO IS A DEPENDANT OF OFFICER OR EMPLOYEE. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT UNDER OUR NEW RULES OF, UH HOW CONFLICT OF RULES THAT WE'VE MADE A PART OF OUR RULES OF COUNCIL. WE HAVE TO EXPLAIN WHY WE ARE ABSTAINING.

WE CAN'T JUST ABSTAIN. SO I'M NOT TRYING TO DRAG THIS OUT OR ANYTHING ELSE, BUT I THINK I'M OBLIGATED TO DO THAT. THE OTHER , UH, WHEN I HAVE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST ON IS HILL. THE LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT ISSUE OF ONE OF THOSE PROPERTIES. I HAVE AN OWNERSHIP INTEREST IN SO ANY EVENT OF ABSTAIN. OKAY? THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER JONES. BY OVER SMITH LEE. I COUNCIL MEMBER MYERS COUNCIL MEMBER WESTBROOK BERRYHILL PERM PAST NEXT IS ITEM SEVEN SPECIAL REPORTS ITEM, A

[7. Special Reports]

DISCUSSION AND CONSIDERATION FOR ORDINANCE APPROVING A ZONING ORDINANCE. TEXT AMENDMENT TO AMEND ARTICLE 15 B TWO GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT REGULATIONS SECTION TO USE REGULATIONS BY CHANGING PERMITTED USES FROM THOSE IN THE B ONE SHOPPING CENTER DISTRICT. TO THOSE PERMITTED IN THE R 32 FAMILY RESIDENTS DISTRICT AND REQUIRING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR MULTI DWELLING AND B TWO AND B THREE DISTRICTS. MR TABLE. THANK YOU. HONORABLE MAYOR, VICE MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL. UH THIS EVENING. I WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE YOU WITH A FEW SLIDES OF INFORMATION REGARDING THIS ITEM , AND IT IS AN ITEM THAT WAS APPROVED. UM AH, IN THE CONSENT AGENDA. WE'LL GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. SO IT RELATES TO PROPERTIES OWNED B BOTH B TWO AND B THREE. AND HERE ON THIS SLIDE, YOU CAN SEE THE PROPERTIES IN RED, UM, DARK RED BEING B THREE PRIMARILY IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA, AND, UM, BE TOO ALONG THE COMMERCIAL CORRIDORS.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. SO THIS ILLUSTRATES THE DARK RED SQUARE AS THE DOWNTOWN AREA, THEN THE WASHINGTON AND WITH STREET CORRIDORS, THE HALIFAX STREET CORRIDOR. CREATE A ROAD CORRIDOR COUNTY DRIVE CORRIDOR AND THE CRATER ROAD CORRIDOR AT THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE CITY. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. AND THIS ILLUSTRATES B THREE, WHICH IS THE DOWNTOWN AREA AND THE PROPERTIES THAT WOULD BE IMPACTED. NEXT SLIDE. THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF, UM, PROPERTIES THAT WOULD POTENTIALLY BE IMPACTED ALONG THE SYCAMORE STREET CORRIDOR. WE HAVE SOME CURRENT MULTI FAMILY DEVELOPMENTS AND WE HAVE SOME VACANT BUILDINGS THAT COULD POTENTIALLY ALSO INCLUDE MULTI FAMILY AND, UM, IF ADOPTED. THIS ORDINANCE WOULD REQUIRE THAT ANY MULTI FAMILY ALONG THIS CORRIDOR AND ANYWHERE ELSE WITHIN THE DOWNTOWN AREA IN THE BEAT IN THE B THREE ZONE. AH HAVE A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, WHICH WOULD GO BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR RECOMMENDATION.

AND THEN BEFORE YOU AS A CITY COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. AH ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF PROPERTY WITHIN THE DOWNTOWN AREA B THREE AND IT'S CURRENTLY VACANT. I THINK WE'VE JUST BUSTED PREVIOUSLY, UH, DEVELOPMENT IF IT INCLUDED MULTI FAMILY WOULD ALSO REQUIRE A SPECIAL USE PERMIT. NEXT SLIDE. AND A SPECIFIC EXAMPLE AT 1 25 NORTH MARKET STREET. THIS UH,

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BUILDING IS CURRENTLY ON THE MARKET. IT'S VACANT AND, UH, YOU KNOW, SOMEONE PROPOSED MULTI FAMILY FOR THIS BUILDING. IT WOULD REQUIRE A SPECIAL USE PERMIT AGAIN. GO TO PLANNING COMMISSION AND THEN COME TO YOU FOR APPROVAL. NEXT SLIDE. AH ONE ISSUE, UH, WITHIN THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE IS THAT THE CURRENT ORDINANCE AND CODE PROVIDES THAT THE R THREE R TWO, WHICH ARE RESIDENTIAL, UM, USES AND RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS, UH, WOULD BE BY RIGHT HMM. AND THERE MAY BE A QUESTION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT YOU WOULD WANT TO PERMIT. UH SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, OR, UH, TO FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AS A BUY RIGHT TO USE WITHIN THE B TWO AND B THREE DISTRICTS AND POTENTIALLY, THAT COULD BE, UM, ADDRESSED IN THE ORDINANCE WHEN IT COMES BEFORE YOU. AND THAT CONCLUDES THE PRESENTATION. I'M HAPPY TO RESPOND TO ANY QUESTIONS. RIGHT. COUNCILMAN JONES. HOW YOU DOING, MR. TABLE? UM COULD YOU LET THE PEOPLE KNOW WHAT IS A B TWO AND B THREE? SO . WITHIN THE CITY OF PETERSBURG. WE HAVE ZONING DISTRICTS AND EACH PROPERTY WITHIN THE CITY IS LOCATED WITHIN A ZONING DISTRICT . UM OUR CODE SPECIFIES THAT, UH, EACH OF THESE ZONING DISTRICTS. PERMIT SPECIFIC USES. SO B TWO IS GENERAL COMMERCIAL. B THREE IS ALSO A COMMERCIAL DISTRICT. IT BE STANDS FOR BUSINESS, AND, UH, IT PROMOTES THE DEVELOPMENT OF BUSINESS USES WITHIN THOSE DISTRICTS. AND CAN YOU ALSO LET THEM KNOW WHAT IS R ONE AND R TWO? CERTAINLY SO R ONE AND R TWO ARE SINGLE FAMILY , UH, DISTRICTS AND THEY PERMIT SINGLE FAMILY HOMES WITHIN THOSE DISTRICTS. SO LIKE, I THINK WHAT I'M ASKING NOW IS, UM, THIS PROPOSED ORDINANCE IS SAYING THAT AND ALL ONE AND R TWO CANNOT. RESIDING A B ONE AND B TWO DISTRICT IS THAT CORRECT? IT CAN IT CAN. YES TRYING TO CHANGE IT THE WAY I CAN'T APOLOGIZE FOR THE, UM CONFUSING. UH THIS WOULD PERMIT IT. AH AND IT WOULD TAKE CURRENTLY. THE ORDINANCE. ALLOWS . ARE FIVE, WHICH IS MULTI FAMILY. UH AS A BUY RIGHT USE FROM OUR FOUR OR. FIVE AS A BUY RIGHT USE. THIS WOULD REMOVE THAT. FROM THE ORDINANCE. AND REQUIRE A SPECIAL USE PERMIT SPECIAL APPROVAL BY PLANNING PLANNING COMMISSION AND COUNCIL FOR MULTI FAMILY DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE B TWO AND B THREE DISTRICT. ISN'T DOWNTOWN SYCAMORE STREET B ONE AND B TWO DISTRICT. IT'S ACTUALLY BE THREE. YES. THREE AND WITH THE APARTMENTS UPSTAIRS ON SOME OF THEM THAT THAT'S ALL ONE AND R TWO. NOPE IT WAS A MULTI USE. WHAT IS IT? IT'S ALL THE USE THE USES MULTI FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, BUT THE DISTRICT IS B THREE. ALL OF THAT. ALL OF THE DOWNTOWN AREA IS A B THREE DISTRICT. MHM.

I'M SORRY. WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE CAN DO THAT ELSEWHERE. THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. SO AGAIN, THIS WOULD REQUIRE IF ANYONE WANTED TO DO MULTI FAMILY UM, THEY WOULD HAVE TO GET A SPECIAL USE PERMIT AND GET SPECIAL PERMISSION FROM THE COUNCIL TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.

THANK YOU, MR TABLE, RIGHT COUNSELOR COVER YEAH. MR TABOR, HELP ME UNDERSTAND? IF COUNCIL WERE TO ADOPT THIS PROPOSED ORDINANCE. UM. WOULD IT PROHIBIT? APARTMENTS IN B TWO AND B THREE. ABSOLUTELY NOT. IT WOULD ONLY REQUIRE THEM TO GET A SPECIAL USE PERMIT. IN ORDER TO BE CONSTRUCTED. SO IF THERE'S IF COUNCIL DID ADOPT THIS PROPOSAL AH! KILL CELL COULD STILL ALLOW THE DEVELOPMENT OF APARTMENTS IN B TWO AND B THREE. IF COUNCIL'S VIEW. THAT WAS IN THE BEST INTERESTS OF THE CITY. IS THAT CORRECT? ABSOLUTELY, YES. AND WHEN IS THIS GOING TO COME BEFORE COUNCIL FOR A VOTE? IT WILL. IT'S ON THE CONSENT AGENDA TONIGHT, SO IT WILL BE ON THE 21ST MEETING. AND LET'S JUST TAKE AN EXAMPLE OF A SHARE BE MOTEL. IN THE BLANFORD AREA IN

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THE FOURTH WARD. AH! IF THIS PROPOSAL WENT THROUGH WELL. STRIKE THAT LET'S TAKE THAT SHABBY MOTEL IS AN EXAMPLE. JUST PICK ONE. WE GOT TO A NUMBER. YOUR FAVORITE IS AT LEAST FAVORITE. UM RIGHT NOW AS THINGS STAND IF THE OWNER WANTED TO CONVERT THAT SHABBY HOTEL INTO A SHARE. BE HOUSING. APARTMENT COMPLEX. IS THERE ANYTHING TO KEEP HIM FROM DOING THAT? CURRENTLY MULTI FAMILY IS A BUY, RIGHT USE AND B TWO AND B THREE. SO UM, THEY COULD DO IT WITHOUT APPROVAL FROM THE CITY COUNCIL. WITHOUT ANY FURTHER REVIEW. IT WOULD BE ABOUT RIGHT. IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT ALL RIGHT NOW, LET'S LET'S GO FORWARD A STEP. LET'S GO TO MARCH, 21. LET'S ASSUME COUNCIL ADOPTS THIS PROPOSED AMENDMENT. AH AND THE SAME PROPERTY OWNER, THE SAME APARTMENT OWNER OF THE SHABBY MOTEL COMES BEFORE CITY COUNCIL. UH, SORRY. THE OWNER OF THE SAME SHABBY MOTEL WANTS TO CONVERT TO SHARE THE APARTMENTS. AT THAT POINT, HE'D HAVE TO SEEK A SPECIAL USE PERMIT. IS THAT CORRECT? YES AND SO THEN HE'D HAVE TO COME BEFORE CITY COUNCIL AND SAY I WANT TO CONVERT MY SHARE HOUSE MOTEL INTO A SERIES OF SHABBY APARTMENT. WILL YOU ALLOW THAT AND I WOULD HOPE THAT COUNCIL WOULD SAY NO. BUT IN ANY EVENT THAT WOULD BE COUNCIL'S DECISION AT THAT POINT. IS THAT CORRECT? OKAY I SEE. OKAY I THINK I UNDERSTAND HOW IT WORKS.

THANK YOU, ALL RIGHT, AND ALSO COUNCIL COVERAGE JUST FOR THE RECORD. WE HAD THE PUBLIC HEARING AT THE LAST MEETING SO WE CAN REALLY MOVED US TO UNFINISHED BUSINESS AS WELL. AND NOT HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING. WE JUST CAN CAN VOTE ON IT. ALRIGHT NEXT MEETING ON MARCH 21 WITHOUT A PUBLIC HEARING. GOT IT. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR MAYOR. THANK YOU, MR TABOR, COUNSELOR MYERS. YEAH MY QUESTION WAS FROM THE LAST MEETING. WE HAD UM, IF YOU CAN TAKE YOUR SLIDE BACK TO WHERE IT SAYS WASHINGTON AND WHICH STREET IS B TWO AND B THREE? HOW FAR DOES THAT. TRAVEL DOWN WASHINGTON STREET. MM HMM. AH YOU GOT TO BRING THE THANK YOU OKAY? YEAH, SO RIGHT THERE.

WE CAN GO BACK. THAT'S IT, OKAY. OH YEAH, I THINK I WATCHED IT. AND WITH SO PROFIT ZONE IS B BUSINESS DOWNTOWN CORRIDORS. AT WHAT LENGTH IS THAT ON WATCHING IT AND WE CAN WE GO BACK ONE SLIDE. SO THOSE PROPERTIES THAT ARE IN RED? YES THOSE PROPERTIES IS OWNED B YOU KNOW, I'D SAY THAT. WHAT LENGTH ON WASHINGTON STREET. OKAY SO IT GOES THAT EXISTS? YES. PRETTY MUCH YOU CAN WE CAN SEE TO THE LEFT, WHICH WOULD BE THE WEST WEST BOUNDARY OF THE CITY. AND IT ALSO GOES TO THE EASTERN BOUNDARY AS WELL. I THINK I MIGHT HAVE CUT OFF A FEW PROPERTIES TO THE EAST. OR TO THE RIGHT. I'M SORRY, DOES THAT . YEAH. GIVE ME A LIMIT. IF IT STARTS AT ADAMS STREET, WHERE DOES IT END? GOING WEST. SO RIGHT, SO ALL OF THOSE PROPERTIES THAT ARE IN RED ALONG I CAN'T SEE THAT I APOLOGIZE. IT'S YOUR CORNER. GREAT. CAN WE SEE THIS? OKAY THIS IS WASHINGTON STREET. FROM WHAT SIDE STREET TO WHAT? SIDE STREET . DOES IT EXIST? UH FROM ADAMS TO WHAT STREET FAMOUS COMMANDER ADAMS FOR TWO. WHAT STREET WEST IS THE ENTIRETY OF WASHINGTON STREET HAS SOME AMOUNT OF THE ZONE PROPERTY ALONG IT. IT JUST ISN'T CONSISTENT LIKE IT IS AND SAY THE DOWNTOWN AREA BETWEEN HERE AT THE LIBRARY MARKET TO THE OTHER SIDE TO, UH, CREATE A ROAD 95. BUT AS YOU GO FURTHER OUT, THERE ARE STILL POCKETS OF BUSINESS OWNED PROPERTY ALONG WASHINGTON. JUST NOT A SOLID DISTRICT ALL THE WAY OUT BECAUSE YOU DO HAVE SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING, INTERSPERSED WITH THAT . AND THOSE MOST OF THOSE, IF I'M CORRECT, MR TABOR HAVE A RESIDENTIAL DESIGNATION ATTACHED TO THEM, RIGHT. SOME OF THEM, MANY OF THEM DO. RIGHT? ALL RIGHT. AND SO IT'S FOR THE REASON I ASKED THE LAST TIME IS THAT IF SOMEONE MOVES TO PETERSBURG AND THEY BUY A BIG OLD HOUSE AND THEY'D LIKE TO THEREBY THAT SUPPLEMENT THEIR MORTGAGE. SO BY RIGHT IF IT IS WITHIN THE B TWO B THREE AREA THEY'RE ABLE TO DO SO WITHOUT PAYING AN ADDITIONAL $1500 TO THE CITY, PETERBURG PROPERTIES OWNED BUSINESS. IF THERE'S

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PROPERTY IF THE PROPERTY ZONED RESIDENTIAL THAN IT HAS THAN THAT THIS THIS DOESN'T APPLY.

IT'S ONLY PROPERTIES THAT ARE ZONED. BUSINESS THAT WOULD CONVERT FROM A BUSINESS USE TO A RESIDENTIAL USE. RIGHT SO STILL EVEN OUR MR TELL UBER IN OUR ONE THERE ARE THREE ARE YOU STILL ABLE TO HAVE A DUPLEX OR TRIPLEX? WITHOUT HAVING. ESPECIALLY YOU. RIGHT SO, UM, THE R THREE ZONE WOULD BE TO FAMILY. HMM AND AS LONG AS AND IF YOU IF YOU'RE REFERENCING, ESPECIALLY NEW CONSTRUCTION AS LONG AS THE PROPERTY IS 60 FT WIDE. AND 100, FT. DEEP AND 6000 SQUARE FEET TOTAL THAT ARE THAT TWO FAMILY USE IS PERMITTED. AND AS LONG AS IT'S 50, FT WIDE AND 100 FT DEEP, THE SINGLE FAMILY USE IS PERMITTED BY RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. MR MAYOR, COVER. LET ME TRY TO PUT A POINT ON THIS. IS IT TRUE? MR TABOR THAT THIS PROPOSED ORDINANCE WOULD REQUIRE A SPECIAL USE PERMIT. ONLY IF THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN A B TWO OR B THREE AREA. YES. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ANOTHER QUESTION. COUNSELOR MINDS. MAYBE NOT OKAY? ALRIGHT WE'LL MOVE ON THEIR INTO OUR NEXT ITEM THERE, WHICH IS ITEM SEVEN B. WITH YES. ANOTHER QUESTION. AND WE'RE NOT VOTING ON THIS TONIGHT. NO, NOT LIKE THIS WORKS. AS YOU KNOW, WE NEVER ALL RIGHT. WE'LL MOVE ON ITEM SEVEN B, WHICH IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION FOR ORDINANCE AMENDING THE CITY CODE . APPENDIX B. ZONING TEXT TO AMEND ARTICLE FOR A AGRICULTURE DISTRICT REGULATIONS SECTION NINE SPECIAL REQUIREMENTS TO ADMIT A SUBDIVISION THAT CREATES ONE PARCEL THAT MEETS THE DIMENSION REQUIREMENTS OF LIGHTS, PARCELS AND THE R ONE A DISTRICT MR TABOR. OKAY HONORABLE MAYOR, VICE MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL. UH I HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL SLIDES TO SHARE WITH YOU TO HOPEFULLY PROVIDE INFORMATION TO HELP YOU WITH YOUR DECISION ON THIS MATTER. AND THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF A PARCEL. UM THAT IS CURRENTLY ZONED AGRICULTURE. AH, UM WITHIN THE CITY. WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. IF THE OWNER OF THE PARCEL WANTED TO, UM SUB DIVINE THE PARCEL. TO CREATE A NEW PARCEL. WITH JUST AN EXISTING HOUSE ON THAT PARCEL SAY TO GIVE TO A RELATIVE OR TO, YOU KNOW, SELL TO RELATIVE OR GIVE TO RELATIVE. THE CURRENT ORDINANCE REQUIRES THAT THAT PARCEL BE REZONED TO RESIDENTIAL NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. SO THIS IS THE CURRENT TEXT. IT HAS NO SUBDIVISION DEVELOPMENT SHALL BE PERMITTED IN AREAS ZONED AGRICULTURAL AND IN FACT, SO THAT DOES NOT PERMIT A SUBDIVISION. AND IT SAYS ANY AREAS SOUGHT TO BE SUBDIVIDED THAT IS PRESENTLY PRESENTLY ZONED AGRICULTURAL SHALL BE FIRST REZONED TO A RESIDENTIAL CLASSIFICATION. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. SO IN THIS CASE, WE HAVE AGRICULTURALLY ZONED PROPERTY AND THIS INDIVIDUAL PARCEL. IF IT WILL BE TO BE CREATED, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE REZONED. TO RESIDENTIAL AND IT MAY BE CONSIDERED SPOT ZONING BECAUSE WE WOULD HAVE RESIDENTIAL SURROUNDED BY AGRICULTURAL HIS OWN PROPERTIES. THE NEXT SLIDE. AH AH, AND, UH, IF THE ORDINANCES ADOPTED, IT WOULD PERMIT THE RESIDENTIAL USE TO CONTINUE IN AN AGRICULTURALLY ZONED ON AN AGRICULTURALLY ZONED PROPERTY. AND RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL IS A PERMITTED USE WITHIN THE AGRICULTURE DISTRICT CURRENTLY NEXT SLIDE. AH AH, AND THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE WOULD REQUIRE THAT ANY PARCEL THAT IS SUBDIVIDED TO CREATE A NEW PARCEL FROM FROM I'M SORRY WITHIN AN AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT. I WOULD HAVE TO MEET THESE SPECIFICATIONS, WHICH ARE THE MINIMUM SPECIFICATIONS DIMENSIONS SPECIFICATIONS FOR THE R ONE. A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE. UM THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT 35 FT 2.5 STORIES. UM 1500 SQUARE FEET IN SIZE AND 100, FT

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AND WITH AND I BELIEVE THAT'S THE LAST LIFE. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. OKAY UM, NEXT QUESTIONS FROM MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. UM START OFF AS TABLE BY, UM JUST GIVING A EXAMPLE OF HOW THIS WILL WORK BECAUSE I SEE WE'RE DEALING WITH ERIC AGRICULTURE. I KNOW OVER IN AND COUNCILMAN WESTBROOK'S AREA WHERE CAMELOT IS I KNOW CAMELOT WAS INITIALLY MEANT TO BE MORE HOMES BUILT OVER THERE, AND I SEE THEY'VE BEEN BEEN AGRICULTURE NOW FOR OVER. 30 PLUS YEARS. UM IF THAT LAND IS FOR SALE SO IF SOMEONE BUYS IT, HOW DOES THIS AFFECT THE USE? OF LET'S SAY THAT THAT EXISTS RIGHT BESIDE A SUBDIVISION. UM IF. THE PERSON IF A PERSON PURCHASES THAT PROPERTY OR THE CURRENT PROPERTY OWNER WANTED TO, UM, CREATE A LOT. THAT MEETS THESE SPECIFICATIONS. UH, THEN THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO CREATE ONE PARCEL. UH FROM THAT EXISTING PARCEL. UM, THEY COULD NOT CREATE A SUBDIVISION. THEY COULDN'T CREATE MULTIPLE LOTS.

JUST YOU KNOW, ONE PARCEL ONE ADDITIONAL PARCEL. FROM THE EXISTING, UM PARCEL. OKAY? ALRIGHT, COUNSELOR. JONES, MR. TABLE. UH, ONE OF THE LOT AGRICULTURE PLACE WAS BIG ENOUGH TO DIVIDE IT LETS YOUR FAMILY GOT TWO SIBLINGS AND WANT TO DIVIDED AMONGST ITU SIBLINGS AND STILL HAVE AGRICULTURE SPACE. YOU'RE SAYING WE WITH THIS? WE CAN'T THEY CANNOT DIVIDED INTO TWO LOTS. EVEN IF IT IF IT MAKES THIS RIGHT. WELL I GUESS THEY WOULD CREATE ONE NEW PARCEL, AND THEN THEY WOULD HAVE THE ORIGINAL PARCELS SO THEY WOULDN'T ESSENCE HAVE, YOU KNOW HAVE THE TWO BUT IF THEY WANTED THREE, THEY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO DO THREE. OR MORE THAN YOU KNOW, TWO UH, END UP WITH MORE THAN TWO PARCELS. AND WHAT'S THE REASON? WHY BECAUSE YOU HAVE FAMILIES WHO HAVE WON A LOT OF FARMLAND AND AGRICULTURAL LATER WE RUN INTO THIS A LOT. WHERE UH , SOMEONE PASSES AWAY AND YOU GOT TO DIVIDE IT UP TO THE FAMILIES. AND YOU MAY HAVE PEOPLE THAT WANT TO CREATE AT LEAST THREE HOMES ON A ON A PLACE TO MEET THIS REQUIREMENT HOMES PLUS STILL HAVE AGRICULTURE SPACE IN THE BACK. YOU'RE SAYING WE WON'T BE ABLE TO A LOT OF TO DO THAT, RIGHT? RIGHT SO IF THEY DID THAT, THEN , UM THEY WOULD SIGNIFICANTLY CHANGED THE USE AND IT WOULD BE MORE RESIDENTIAL SO WE WOULD RESULT RESORT BACK TO THE ORDINANCE, WHICH WOULD REQUIRE THEM TO REZONE THAT PROPERTY THAT THEY'RE CREATING FOR RESIDENTIAL TO BE REZONED RESIDENTIAL. OKAY SO WE'RE NOT TELL THEM THAT YOU JUST CAN'T DO ANYTHING. WHAT IF THAT CASE, RIGHT? THEY WOULD JUST HAVE TO REZONE THE PROPERTY. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCILOR COVER. MR TABOR. IS THIS PROPERTY RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM INTERNATIONAL PAPER? YES. SO IT'S IN AN AREA THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DEVELOP FOR INDUSTRIAL USES. IS THAT CORRECT? UM. THE UM CAN'T COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. FUTURE LAND USE MAP DOES SHOW INDUSTRIAL USE FOR, UM THIS AREA? YES. UH BUT THE CURRENT USES OF THE PROPERTY. UM OUR AGRICULTURE. SO IF WE WERE TO PASS THIS ORDINANCE ON MARCH THE 21ST WE WOULD BE DOING SOMETHING INCONSISTENT WITH OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WHICH SAYS THAT IT SHOULD NOW SHOULD BE INDUSTRIAL USE. IS THAT CORRECT ? WELL, THE CONFERENCE. WELL, I GUESS THE STATE CODE STATES THAT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PLAN. FUTURE LAND USE UM, MAPS SHOULD BE CONSIDERED. WHEN MAKING THIS MAKING ZONING DECISIONS, BUT IT'S NOT REQUIRED THAT IT BE, YOU KNOW, ADHERED TO RIGHT. BUT MY QUESTION WAS WHETHER IF WE ADOPTED THIS PROPOSAL, WE WOULD BE ACTING UH, INCONSISTENTLY WITH OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. UM . CONSISTENT WITH CURRENT LAND USE, UM, INCONSISTENT WITH THE, UM COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. INCONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE RIGHT COUNSELOR.

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COVER THE MEAT. GET THIS CITY MANAGER TO CHIME IN ON THAT AS WELL. MR ALTMAN. SO MR TABOR'S RIGHT, UH, STATE CODE CASE LAW WOULD SUGGEST THAT THE COP PLAYING AS A GUIDE, NOT LAW. SO WE MAKE DECISIONS ON FUTURE LAND USE AND DECISIONS BASED ON SHOWS CASE, THOUGH, I DON'T KNOW THAT AND OUR MY ESTEEMED ATTORNEY CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. BUT WE'RE DEALING WITH THE EXISTING LAND USE, NOT NECESSARILY THE FUTURE LAND USE. SO WHILE I WOULD AGREE THAT I THINK THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR SOME LIGHT INDUSTRIAL USE IN THIS AREA. WE'VE GOT WATER AND SEWER ALREADY. INTERNATIONAL PAPER CLOSE TO 85. THE ROWER TRACKS. I THINK WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH IS A SPECIFIC SITUATION. PART OF THE CONCERN THAT YOU WOULD HAVE IS TYPICALLY, YOU DON'T AMEND THE ZONING ORDINANCE FOR A SINGLE INSTANCE. UH, YOU WOULD NEED TO SIT. THIS ISSUE CAME UP MORE THAN ONCE THAN YOU WOULD LOOK TO AMEND THIS IS I THINK AND CORRECT ME. IF MY MOM WAS THE TAPE FOR THE FIRST TIME THIS HAS COME ACROSS OUR OUR DESK AND THE AND THE FACT THAT WE HAVE A FAMILY. ESSENTIALLY THAT IS INTERESTED IN SELLING A PIECE OF PROPERTY. THERE ARE TWO HOMES.

THERE'S A HOME ON THE PROPERTY THAT THEY WANT TO SELL. BUT IN ORDER TO SUBDIVIDE IT OFF. TO KEEP IT, THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH A REZONING OF THE ENTIRE PARCEL, WHICH WOULD THEN MAKE IT RESIDENTIAL, WHICH CERTAINLY WHEN WE GO TO LOOK AT THE LAND EAST MAP, WE WOULD SAY IT'S INCONSISTENT WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP. AH! HOWEVER WHAT I WOULD SAY THIS IS WHERE THE ATTORNEY CAN TELL ME DIFFERENTLY. THE CURRENT LAND USE AS AGRICULTURAL AND AS LONG AS THAT LAND USE CAN CONTINUES WITHOUT ANY BREAKING USAGE FOR TWO YEARS, IT'S A NONCONFORMING USE. THEY COULD CONTINUE TO FARM THE LAND, EVEN THOUGH IT WAS RE ZONED RESIDENTIAL. WE'RE KIND OF IN A CATCH. 22 YOU HAVE A FAMILY THAT'S LOOKING FOR SOME RELIEF. AND I'M NOT NOT IN MY TO BE. I'M THINKING THROUGH MY MIND. HOW CAN SOMETHING LIKE THIS BE ACCOMPLISHED WITHOUT HAVING TO REZONE IT? SO, UM GOT A LITTLE BIT OF TIME BEFORE THE NEXT MEETING FOR ME TO WORK AND TRY TO FIGURE THAT OUT, BUT WE'RE AN INTERESTING SITUATION. AND I WOULD SAY, MR COOPER, IF THE RECOMMENDATION WAS THE ISSUE AT HAND WAS THE REZONING OTHER PROPERTY THEN WE CERTAINLY WOULD LOOK AT THAT FUTURE LAND USE MAPS AND SAY IT'S INCONSISTENT WITH THE WHAT WE PROJECT IN THE FUTURE. RIGHT NOW. THE EXISTING USE IS IN CONDITIONING IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE FUTURE LINE.

YOU SPENT MAP. HOWEVER IT IS THE CURRENT CONDITION AND IT'S BY RIGHT CURRENTLY BECAUSE OF THE ZONING ON THE PROPERTY. CORRECT ME, MR WILLIAMS. SO I WAS JUST GONNA COMMENT THAT, UM WHEN I FIRST SAW THE PROPOSAL, I HAD MIXED FEELINGS ABOUT IT. IT'S QUITE TYPICAL FOR LOCALITIES TO HAVE AN ORDINANCE LIKE THE CITY OF PETERSBURG HAS. AND THE INTENT OF THAT ORDINANCE IS TO REQUIRE WHENEVER YOU SUBDIVIDE A PIECE OF AGRICULTURAL PROPERTY, WHICH IS TAXED AT THE LOWEST TAX RATE THAT WE HAVE THAT IT BE ELEVATED TO A MORE INTENSIVE USE CITIES, PARTICULARLY SMALL ONES, WITH LIMITED LAND. SPACE WILL DO THAT BECAUSE THE IDEA IS TO GET IT INTO MORE INTENSIVE USE.

WHERE POSSIBLE, HOWEVER, IS LIKEWISE NOT UNCOMMON TO HAVE AN EXCEPTION. I BELIEVE WHEN I WORKED IN SUFFOLK, THEY HAD THE RULE OF THREE WHERE YOU CAN HAVE THREE PERMITTED SUBDIVISIONS.

AND THAT'S ESSENTIALLY WHAT MR TABOR'S PROPOSING IS THAT AN EXCEPTION BE CREATED TO OUR EXISTING ORDINANCE SO LIKEWISE, I THINK THAT YOU COULD GO EITHER WAY WITH WITH THIS PROPOSAL, BUT I THINK HE'S GOT AN ISSUE THAT HE'S TRYING TO ADDRESS BY PRESENTING THIS TO YOU. OKAY.

THANK YOU. ALRIGHT ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM MR TAPPER? NOT THIS WILL BE ON OUR, UM MARCH, 21ST. REGULAR SCHEDULED COUNCIL MEETING FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING. UM NEXT, WE'LL MOVE ON. IF THERE'S NO MORE QUESTIONS, WE'LL MOVE ON ITEM EIGHT MONTHLY REPORTS. UM YES. NO ITEMS, ITEM NINE FINANCE AND BUDGET. WELL, WE HAVE A MONTHLY REPORT. OKAY? YEAH. OKAY WE'RE MOVING THE

[9. Finance and Budget Report]

FINANCE AND BUDGET REPORT ITEM A. THE FY 22 ANNUAL COMPREHENSIVE FINANCIAL REPORT PRESENTATION. MS JORDAN. HOW YOU DOING? GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. UM I WANT TO APOLOGIZE WE HAD PLANNED ON DOING THE FISCAL YEAR 22 KAFFIR PRESENTATION. HOWEVER WE'RE STILL WAITING FOR SOME DOCUMENTATION TO COME BACK. SO I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT THE YEAR TO DATE BUDGET TO ACTUALS AS OF 2 28 23. OKAY? THE FIRST PAGE IS THE DIFFERENT FUNDS THAT WE HAVE FOR GENERAL FUND GRANT STREETS. CDBG PUBLIC UTILITIES STORMWATER GOLF COURSE AND TRANSIT. THE

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FIRST COLUMN IS GOING TO SHOW YOU THE PRIOR YEAR FISCAL 22 ACTUALS THE BUDGET. THE CURRENT QUARTER AND THEN CURRENT YEAR TODAY AND WHAT IS REMAINING IN THE BUDGET. ON THE FIRST SIDE.

YOU HAVE THE REVENUES ON THE SECOND SIDE EXPENDITURES. AS OF CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW WE ARE TRAINING TO BRING IN AT LEAST 80 MILLION IN REVENUES AND ABOUT 72 EXPENDITURES FOR FISCAL YEAR 23.

SECOND PAGE. THE STATEMENT OF REVENUES, EXPENDITURES AND CHANGES IN FUND BALANCE. AGAIN YOU HAVE THE 23 BUDGET CURRENT QUARTER CURRENT YEAR TO DATE REMAINING, AND THIS IS JUST A BREAKDOWN IN THE REVENUES THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED THUS FAR AS OF 2 28 2023. THE NEXT PAGE IS BROKEN DOWN BY DEPARTMENT FOR EXPENDITURES. AND WHAT HAS BEEN SPENT FOR A CURRENT, UH, THE BUDGET VERSUS YEAR TODAY AND WHAT THE BALANCES REMAINING NOW I'LL DO ALSO WANT TO LET YOU GUYS KNOW THAT WE DO HAVE A LOT OF DUE DATES COMING UP FOR MARCH, WHICH INCLUDE THE CORRECTION FOR FIRST QUARTER REAL ESTATE. MARCH 31ST. YOU ALSO HAVE THIRD QUARTER REAL ESTATE PSC. OF COURSE, UTILITIES IS DUE MONTHLY. UM AND ALSO WE DO RECEIVE A LOT OF QUARTERLY.

HE DIAZ, WHICH IS MONIES RECEIVED FROM COMMONWEALTH, THE STATE AND FEDERAL THAT IS GOING TO BE COMING IN AT THE END OF MARCH. SHOE. I WILL COME BACK BEFORE COUNCIL MARCH AT THE END OF MARCH AND PROBABLY IN APRIL TO DO A THIRD QUARTER UPDATE TO SEE WHERE WE STAND FOR THEM VIDEO. ALL RIGHT. AND THE LAST PLACES ADDITIONAL DEPARTMENTS. FOR A TOTAL SPINACH EAR'S AS OF CURRENTLY HERE TODAY, $50 MILLION TWO MILLION AND THAT IS ACTUALLY ONE TIME SO REALLY, WE'RE TRENDING 48 MILLION, WHICH WOULD GIVE US ABOUT 78 72 AT THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR, SO WE'LL HAVE 80/80 MILLION IN REVENUES AND 17 EXPENDITURES AT THE END OF THE YEAR OR ANY QUESTIONS.

THIS INFORMATION CAN ALSO BE PROVIDED IS ALSO POSTED ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE UNDER FINANCE UNDER REPORTS ALONG WITH OUR MONTHLY CASH FLOW, ALONG WITH HOW MANY PAYMENTS WERE PROCESSED FOR THE MONTH. FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF COLLECTIONS, AS WELL AS OUR PROCESS AND MAIL PROCESS. AND SO PEOPLE CAN, UM THEY DON'T THEY WON'T THINK THAT WE'RE JUST HOLDING THEIR PAYMENTS WERE PROCESSED, SEARCH AND PERCENTAGE RATE. ALL OF THAT INFORMATION IS ON OUR WEBSITE AND WE'LL BE HOSTING MONTHLY. THANK YOU, MRS JORDAN FOR THE PRESENTATION. THANK YOU. NEXT QUESTIONS, COUNSELING COPPER. MR WARDEN, NOT SURE WHICH PAGE IT IS BECAUSE IT DOESN'T HAVE A NUMBER BUT BUDGET TO ACTUAL AS A 22.28 POINT, 23 CONTINUED. IT'S THE TOP LINE IS REVENUES.

GENERAL PROPERTY TAX $37 MILLION. WHAT ARE THE COMPONENTS OF THAT $37 MILLION IS REAL ESTATE, PERSONAL PROPERTY, PSC TANGIBLE PROPERTY MEALS, TAX STUFF LIKE THAT, THAT ALL FOUND UNDER UNDER GENERAL. A PERSON PUBLIC SERVICE. SALES. AND HOW MUCH IS THE MILITARY COMPONENT OF THE GENERAL PROPERTY TAX OVER 25 MILLION. YOU HAVE TO BE A MILLION FOR PUBLIC SAFETY. I MEAN PUBLIC SERVICE AND THEN PERSONAL PROPERTY IS ANYWHERE FROM 5 TO 10 MILLION. ALRIGHT BUT REAL ESTATE IN ROUND FIGURES 25 MILLION ABOUT 25. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR WILLIAMS. ALRIGHT, COUNCILMAN JONES. YEAH, SURE. SURE. I'M JUST LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS AND, UH I CAN'T REMEMBER. AND IF I DEPARTMENT BUDGET WAS ALMOST TRIPLED AND WHAT IT IS NOW. POLICE DEPARTMENT ALSO. I LIKE TO ASK COUNSEL AND YOU WHAT? WHY? WHY IS IT SO LOW? TODAY, GIVEN THE STATE OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. SO I WOULD SAY ONE. I THINK YOU EAT.

WE DIAL BACK TO WHEN TIMES WERE REALLY ROUGH. AND THERE WAS 10% CUTS ACROSS THE BOARD TO DEPARTMENTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY , AND YOU'VE GOT TO WORK OVERTIME TO RECOVER THAT. SO WE ARE IN MUCH BETTER FINANCIAL POSITION THAT WE WERE. THEN I THINK WHEN WE HAD THE 21 AUDIT REPORT I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT CITY WAS IN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG COUNSELORS WHO ARE HERE? NEGATIVE 16 OR $19 MILLION FUND BALANCE TO TODAY. WE'RE 25 TO THE 20 TO 25 MILLION TO THE GOOD 46 MILLION TOTAL WITH ASSETS SO WE'RE MUCH BETTER FINANCIAL SHAPE. BUT TO REBUILD THAT OVER

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TIME. YOU KNOW IT'S GOING TO TAKE TIME SO AND YOU DON'T WANT TO. RUSH OUT AND SPEND IT ALL ONE TIME BECAUSE YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE THE REOCCURRING REVENUE TO SUSTAIN THAT OUR NUMBER ONE EXPENSE CORRECT ME. IF I'M WRONG, MR JORDAN'S IS GOING TO BE PERSONNEL. YOU KNOW, YOU GOTTA MAKE SURE YOU HAVE THAT REOCCURRING REVENUE EVERY EVERY YEAR TO SUSTAIN THAT, SO WE'RE LOOKING TO REBUILD IT AND BUILD IT BACK UP, BECAUSE CERTAINLY WE NEED WE NEED TO BE IN A BETTER SPOT. BUT I THINK WE'RE ALSO TRYING TO BE CONSERVATIVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T RUSH TOO FAR AND OVEREXTEND OURSELVES AND HAVE A BAD YEAR AND FIND THAT WE HAVE TO GO TO FUND BALANCE BECAUSE THE ONE THING YOU DON'T DO FROM MY WORLD, MR JORDAN'S WORLD BECAUSE WE DO NOT BALANCE THE BUDGET. WITH ONE TIME MONEY USING FUND BALANCE, BECAUSE THEN YOU'RE GOING TO YOUR SAVINGS ACCOUNT. THEN YOU HAVE TO GO THE NEXT YEAR AND THAT SORT OF DOWNWARD SPIRAL. SO WE'RE TAKING A CONSERVATIVE I WOULD AND I HAVE TO SAY THIS WILL BE MY FIRST BUDGET WITH Y'ALL, BUT I THINK THE STAFF THAT'S WORKED ON THE BUDGETS PREVIOUSLY HAS DONE A GOOD JOB OF STEPPING THAT TOWARDS IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION, AND WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT. AND THERE'S A COMMITMENT CERTAINLY AMONGST COUNCIL IN THE IN THE STAFF TO WORK TOWARDS RESTORING THOSE NUMBERS AND THOSE DEPARTMENTS AND OTHERS. APPRECIATE YOUR ANSWER. UM I JUST WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR FOR THE RECORD THAT WE GOT TO REMEMBER THE SACRIFICES THAT THE FIREMAN MADE. AND ANYBODY ELSE ANY OTHER CITY EMPLOYEES MADE WHEN WE TOOK THAT 10% IT NEVER WAS GIVEN BACK. AND WE DON'T WANT TO TAKE TOO LONG. TWO OF THEM GUYS, RETIRED. AND WE DIDN'T GIVE THEM NOTHING BACK . WE GOT TO MAKE SURE THE PUBLIC SERVICE GET WHAT THEY NEED. TO GET THE JOB DONE. WE CANNOT FORGET. SO WE TOOK THAT MONEY FROM THEM. EXCUSE ME, COUNCILMAN JOE, SO I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW LAST YEAR WE ACTUALLY DID GET FIRE 8% INCREASE AS WELL AS PUBLIC SAFETY POLICE DEPARTMENT . AS FAR AS SALARY GOES, THE REST OF THE CITY ENDED UP GETTING AS WELL AS PUBLIC WORKS. GOT 8% OF THE REST OF THE CITY GOT FIVE. SO WE'RE WELL ON OUR WAY UP TOGETHER, MAKING THEM WHOLE AGAIN. THANK YOU. WELCOME. ALRIGHT, COUNCILMAN COVER. THANK YOU, MR MAYOR. HELP ME WITH THIS, UH, MISS JORDAN'S THOUGHT THAT WE HAD RESTORED THAT. WE LIFTED THE SALARIES BACK UP TO WHERE THEY WERE BEFORE I GOT ON COUNCIL AND ANOTHER COUNCIL WILL CUT THE 10. DIDN'T AT SOME POINT , EITHER THE OLD COUNCIL LAW THIS CURRENT COUNCIL UM BRING THOSE PAY LEVELS BACK UP. UM NO , SIR. NOT THAT. I REMEMBER. SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE I DO KNOW.

LAST YEAR COUNCIL DECIDED TO GIVE, LIKE I SAID, PUBLIC WORKS AS AS WELL AS FIRE 8% AND THEN PUBLIX POLICE DEPARTMENT GOT OVER 10% SO, BUT THE REST OF THE STAFF ONLY GOT FIVE. UM, LEAVING ANOTHER ADDITIONAL 5% TO BRING THEM BACK HOME. HOLD ON. JUST A MINUTE. UH YEAH. MR MAYOR, CAN YOU WRITE? THINK WHAT COUNSELOR COVER EVER SAYING IS ABOUT THE WHEN WE TOOK THE 10% IT WAS RESTORED THAT THAT FOLLOWING BUDGET YEAR, BUT BUT WHAT? TALISMAN JONES IS SAYING THAT, UM THAT THAT WOULD FIRE DEPARTMENT. CAN WE GO BACK TO COMPENSATE THOSE THAT STAYED RIGHT? OKAY BECAUSE BECAUSE SOME LEFT RIGHT? I KNOW. I WAS JUST WONDERING, MAYBE I JUST WANT TO MAKE MAKE SURE WE DON'T FORGET. WELL, WE TOOK FROM. RIGHT I'LL SAY YOU EXPLAINED IT, SO I APPRECIATE IT. YOU'RE WELCOME. AND I WILL SAY ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WILL HAVE IN THE UPCOMING BUDGET PROPOSAL IS A CLASS AND COMPENSATION STUDY BECAUSE WE DO HAVE COMPRESSION ISSUES WITHIN THE CITY. WE DO NEED TO LOOK AT WHERE WE ARE WITH MARKET TO BE ABLE TO LOOK AT OVERALL SALARIES AND BOTH IN ONE OF THE THINGS, THERE'S ALWAYS A TOPIC OF CONVERSATION ON HAVING A SPECIFIC PUBLIC SAFETY PAY PLAYING VERSUS GENERAL PLAYED A PAMPHLET. WE DO THAT STUDY THAT WILL HELP US LOOK AT THE WHERE WE NEED TO GO WHERE WE ARE BASED ON MARKET.

OKAY? COUNCILMAN JONES. IT'S SOCIAL SERVICES INCLUDED IN THAT BECAUSE WE TOOK THEY'RE NOT GETTING THEIR MONEY NEITHER. I'M SORRY. I'M SORRY. COUNCILMAN JOE SOCIAL SERVICES GETS A 5% INCREASE EVERY YEAR FROM THE STATE. SOMEONE MAY GET IT. THEY SHOULD ALL GET US ACROSS THE BOARD. NOBODY SHOULD BE UNLESS THEY HAVE YOUR EMAIL WITH. THANK YOU. YEAH, BECAUSE THEY SHOULD BE ACROSS THE BOARD IS NOT VICE MAYOR HILL. OH, I WAS ON COUNCIL WHEN? WHEN THEY 10% WAS TAKEN.

COUNCILMAN JONES. I THINK HE WAS WORKING FOR THE CITY THERE AND AT THAT TIME, UM SO, UM, WHEN WE REINSTATE, OF COURSE, A LOT OF PEOPLE THEY LEFT AND WHAT HAVE YOU AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT I THINK I HAVE MAJOR MAJOR CHALLENGE COMING UP NOW AND BELIEVE THE CITY MANAGER KNOWS ABOUT THIS. YES OUR INSURANCE, SO I THINK THAT'S THE THING THAT WE NEED TO WORK ON AND FOCUS ON.

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AH AS WELL AS COMPENSATION THAT I KNOW. YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING WAY BETTER THAN WHAT WE WERE.

BACK IN 2016 TO NAIL. I THINK THEY RE ASSURANCES. WHAT UH, DRIVES EVERYTHING UP BECAUSE OH, SHOWINGS RACIST HIGH EVERYWHERE . SO I THINK, MR MR CITY MANAGER , MR MARCH. THEY THAT THAT WOULD BE OUR MAJOR CHALLENGE IF WE CAN SHOW SOME RELIEF THERE FOR OUR FOR OUR OUR EMPLOYEES. YES, SIR.

IT'S IT. NOT ONLY IS IT SOMETHING TO LOOK AT FOR OUR CURRENT EMPLOYEES, BUT IT'S ALSO SOMETHING LOOK AT WHERE YOU RECRUIT NEW EMPLOYEES ARE AT THE COST OF INSURANCE. WHAT THERE ARE EMPLOYEE EMPLOYEES PAYING IN COMPARISON TO OTHER COMMUNITIES RATHER HIGH, SO IT'S SOMETHING WE'RE CERTAINLY LOOKING AT AS FAR AS OUR UPCOMING RENEWAL, BUT ALSO MOVING FORWARD WHAT WE NEED TO DO. THANK YOU, MR MAYOR. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. MR JORDAN'S ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

EVERYONE NEXT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM. 10 CAPITAL PROJECTS. UPDATE NO ITEMS FOR THE NIGHT.

[11. Utilities]

ITEM 11. UTILITIES IN ANYTHING FROM THE UTILITIES TEAM. SEE WE HAVE MR RONNIE L. IT'S RICHARD.

SO WHAT? I JUST WANT TO LET COUNSEL NOTES SO AT THE TWO MEETINGS AGO, WE HAD AN UPDATE FROM J. M T WITH REGARD TO THE OVERALL POOR CREEK PROJECT AND WHERE WE WERE WITH THE PROCESS AND WE WERE. WE WERE COMMITTED TO SHORTENING THAT TIME FRAME TO GET THAT PROJECT DONE QUICKER.

THIS WEEK. THE TEAM INTERVIEWED IS HAS INTERVIEWED THE CONTRACTORS ON THE WATER SIDE, AND WE'LL BE INTERVIEWING THAT THE CONTRACTOR FOR THE DESIGN TEAMS ON THE DESIGN SIDE FOR WASTEWATER WILL BE LOOKING TO MAKE DECISIONS ON CONTRACTS IN THE NEXT WEEK. AND THEN AT OUR APRIL MEETING, JMT WILL BE HERE TO PROVIDE AN OVERALL UPDATE BECAUSE AT THAT POINT IN TIME WILL HAVE TIMELINES FOR THE DESIGN TEAMS THAT WE CAN INCORPORATE INTO OUR OVERALL TIMELINE WITH MORE SPECIFIC ITEMS TO GIVE YOU MORE DETAIL. SO THE APRIL MEETING, JMT WILL BE HERE AND THEN JMT WILL COME BACK. AT EACH WORK SESSION FIRST MEETING OF THE MONTH TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE TO COUNCILS OUR PROGRESS SO THAT PROJECT IS MOVING ALONG AND WE'RE COMMITTED TO GETTING THAT DONE. EARLIER RATHER THAN LATER. OKAY, PERFECT. UM AND LIKE, NECESSARILY, UM, I JUST WANT TO THANK MR RICHARD HARRIS. MR RONALD JOHNSON FOR BEING HERE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE HAD A BREAK THIS WEEK AND I SAW YOU OUT THERE, YOU KNOW, FIXING THAT BREAKING? UM, THANK YOU GUYS FOR WHAT Y'ALL DO THERE. THEY KEEP OUR UTILITY SYSTEM GOING. PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND. WE HAVE AN OLD SYSTEM, BUT IT'S GOOD BECAUSE OF THE MEN AND WOMEN WE HAVE IN PUBLIC WORKS AND UTILITIES THAT MAKE THINGS HAPPEN FOR WEST, BUT THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING OUT TONIGHT, OKAY? THE NEXT ITEM. 12 STREETS, UM, NEIGHBORHOOD TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PROGRAM.

[12. Streets]

GOOD EVENING. HONORABLE EXCUSE ME. GOOD EVENING MODEL HONORABLE MAYOR. GOOD EVENING REGGIE LANCE STREET DIVISION. UH I'M HERE TONIGHT TO DISCUSS THE NEIGHBORHOOD TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PROGRAM. SPECIFICALLY THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS RAISED ABOUT WHAT THEY WERE DOING IN RICHMOND.

ALRIGHT I REACHED OUT TO RICHMOND RECENTLY TO GET SOME ANSWERS TO THOSE QUESTIONS. SO GARY, IF YOU COULD SHOW THE NEXT LINE, PLEASE. ALRIGHT SO IN FEBRUARY, 26 I REACHED OUT TO THE CITY OF RICHMOND JOINTS, BUT ATION ENGINEER HE PROVIDED BOTH DIRECT RESPONSES AND INDIRECT RESPONSES. A LOT OF THE INDIRECT RESPONSES CAME DIRECTLY FROM THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PROGRAM. QUESTION ONE THAT WAS POSED WAS HOW MANY SPEED BUMPS OR HUMPS DOES THE CITY OF RICHMOND NOW HAVE IN PLACE? BUT HE DID NOT PROVIDE A DIRECT RESPONSE TO THAT QUESTION. QUESTION NUMBER TWO. WHERE ARE THEY? AND HOW LONG HAVE THEY BEEN IN PLACE AGAIN? TRANSPORTATION MANAGER ENGINEER DID NOT PROVIDE A DIRECT RESPONSE TO THAT. QUESTION NUMBER THREE. WHAT DOES RICHMOND'S SEED TO BE THE ADVANTAGE? HIS RESPONSE WAS INCLUDED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PROGRAM DOCUMENT THAT HE SHARED WITH ME.

SPEED TABLES ARE PROVEN AND DOCUMENTED, TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURE. AND ARE A VERY EFFECTIVE MEANS OF CONTROLLING SPEEDS IN INTERSECTIONS. THEY'RE GENERALLY SELF ENFORCING AND HELP REINFORCE SAFE DRIVING BEHAVIOR. THEY CAN BE VERY COST EFFECTIVE DUE TO THEIR HIGH EFFICIENCY. THE DISADVANTAGES THEY MUST MEET SITE SPECIFIC DESIGN CRITERIA. SPEED TABLES

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MAY IMPACT EMERGENCY RESPONSE TIMES, UH, THEY CAN HAVE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES, SUCH AS DRIVERS TO SPEED UP BETWEEN DEVICES. THEY CAN INCREASED NOISE AND PHYSICAL VIBRATION, ESPECIALLY WHEN TRAVERSED BY VEHICLES SUCH AS TRUCKS AND BUSSES. QUESTION NUMBER FIVE. ON BALANCE, THERE'S RICHMOND SEE THE ADVANTAGES TO OUTWEIGH THE DISADVANTAGES OR IS IT THE OTHER WAY AROUND? AND WHY. WELL AGAIN . THE DIRECT RESPONSE WAS NOT PROVIDED. BUT SINCE. THE CITY OF RICHMOND DID INCORPORATE SPEED TABLES INTO THEIR LEVEL TWO STRATEGIES FOR THE DEPLOYMENT OF PHYSICAL DEVICES. ONE COULD SURMISE THAT THEY DEEM IT ADVANTAGEOUS TO DEPLOY SPEED TABLES IF THEY MEET THE CRITERIA DEFINED IN THEIR NET NEIGHBORHOOD TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PROGRAM. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. NOW THE CITY UTILIZES A VERY COMPREHENSIVE APPROACH TO THE VALUE, WAITING EACH OF THE REQUEST FOR TRAFFIC CALL ME THEIR COMPREHENSIVE APPROACH IS DEFINED IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PROGRAM. EACH TRAFFIC COMMON REQUEST THAT COMES THROUGH GOES THROUGH THE SAME EVALUATION PROCESS AND THE FLU CHART OF THE PROCESS IS DESCRIBED IN THEIR MANUAL PAGE SEVEN. THE CITY RECEIVES MORE THAN 1000 REQUESTS EVERY YEAR.

SINCE 2004. THE CITY IS ADDRESSED 300 TRAFFIC COM I'M SORRY, 350 TRAFFIC CALMING LOCATIONS. WITH THE DEPLOYMENT OF HORIZONTAL AND VERTICAL TREATMENTS. THESE WOULD INCLUDE TRAFFIC CIRCLES, CURB EXTENSIONS , MEDIANS AND SPEED TABLES. THE SPEED TABLES ARE TYPICALLY A MID BLOCK TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURE. AND THEY MUST MEET SITES SPECIFIC CRITERIA. FOR SPEED TABLES. ARE CONSIDERED FOR INSTALLATION ON RESIDENTIAL STREETS AFTER A FULL ASSESSMENT OF A REQUEST IS COMPLETED. THE DEPARTMENT SEEKS APPROVAL FROM THE RICHMOND FIRE DEPARTMENT, GREATER RICHMOND TRANSIT AUTHORITY, THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION THAT INITIATED THE REQUEST, OR WHERE IT WOULD BE IMPACTED AND ALSO THE LOCAL CITY COUNCIL REPRESENTATIVE FOR THAT COMMUNITY. FUNDING MUST BE IDENTIFIED AND ALLOCATED FOR EACH PROJECT BEFORE IT IS PROGRAMMED FOR DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION. FINALLY SPEED TABLE SHOULD NOT BE INSTALLED ON PRIMARY EMERGENCY VEHICLE ROUTES. HIGH VOLUME TRANSIT ROUTES, STEVE GRADES OR SHARP CURVES. NEXT SLIDE PLACE. YEAH. THE SLIDE TO THE LEFT WITH THE ASPHALT SPEED TABLES. THIS GIVES A COST BREAKDOWN TYPICAL OF WHAT THEY ARE TODAY. A SINGLE SPEED TABLE WILL COST APPROXIMATELY $14,000. COULD BE AS HIGH AS $24,000. IF YOU USE RUBBER AS SPEED TABLES, THEY'RE CHEAPER.

THEY DON'T LAST AS LONG, BUT THEY ARE CHEAPER AND THEY RANGE FOR THAT IS 12.5 1015 AND A HALF 1000. SO TYPICALLY IN A IN A NEIGHBORHOOD, FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU LOOKED AT HIGH STREET RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE THAT YOU NEED AT LEAST TWO SPEED TABLES ON THE HIGH STREET. SO YOU'D BE LOOKING AT A COMBINED COST SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 28 $48,000 FOR ASPHALT. FUSED RUBBERIZED YOU'D BE LOOKING $56,000. TO PUT TWO SPEED TABLES IN ON HIGH STREET. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. NOW WHAT I'VE. IN MY RESEARCH I ONE OF THE DECEASED SOME OF THE APPLICATIONS, SO THERE'S THIS IS GOING TO DEMONSTRATE. THE RUBBERIZED SPEED TABLES. AND THE EFFECT THAT IT HAS ON TRAFFIC WHEN THEY ARE PROPERLY APPLIED.

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NEXT SLIDE. OKAY SO THAT CONCLUDES MY BRIEF PRESENTATION . ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MR LANCE. I'M NEXT, UM, COUNCILMAN JONES. HOW YOU DOING? GREAT YOURSELF. GOOD.

UM. THOSE FIGURES THAT YOU HAD ON HERE. 12,000 AND 24,000. DID YOU HAVE A LOOK ON THE AMAZON? CAN'T SAY AS IT DID. I'M LOOKING ON IT RIGHT NOW. AND I SEE A THREE PACK OF TWO CHANNEL.

£11,000 FOR AXEL CAPACITY. SPEED BUMPS. JUST LIKE THE ONES YOU GOT HERE FOR $57. THE AVERAGE WEIGHT OF A VEHICLE IS 4000 BALES. UM. I THINK WE NEED TO START LOOKING. SHOPPING MY MAMA TOLD ME YOU BETTER SHOP AROUND. UM. WE DON'T HAVE TIME TO WAIT. WE CAN GET THESE THINGS RIGHT NOW. WE OWN THEM IN THE CITY ALREADY ON AMHERST. WE HAVE THEM. THEY'VE BEEN THERE FOR YEARS SINCE I WAS IN HIGH SCHOOL. ONCE THEY WILL PUT DOWN AND THEN HE HAD TO BE MAINTAINED. IT WAS DOWN. HE STILL THERE. SIZE AND EVERYTHING. WE CAN DO THIS, EVERYBODY, WE JUST NEED TO ACT ON IT. $57 WE GOT THAT WE CAN TAKE IT OUT OF COUNCIL PAIR. WE NEED TO WE GOT IT. THANK YOU. RIGHT COUNSELOR COVER MR LANCE, I'M MY HEAD IS SPINNING. I COULD'VE SWORN YOU TOLD US THE LAST TIME YOU APPEARED BEFORE US THAT THESE THINGS SHOULD NOT BE INSTALLED ON ACTIVE ROADWAYS. AND YET AH! I JUST SAW A PICTURE OF ONE AT THE CORNER OF AMHERST AND OH, KILL THAT. UH MY COLLEAGUE SAYS HE'S BEEN THERE FOR YEARS. YOU SHOWED US WHAT'S COMMERCIALLY AVAILABLE. UH UM. I HAD PHOTOGRAPHS AT THE LAST MEETING OF SPEED BUMPS. IN RICHMOND HAD A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT LOCATIONS. THE RICHMOND NEIGHBORHOOD TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PROGRAM. ACKNOWLEDGES THE USE OF THESE THINGS. SO, UM , I'M REALLY KIND OF KIND OF CONFUSED. UM BUT IN ANY EVENT MR OLDMAN, UH, WOULD YOU ASK STAFF TO COME UP WITH A PETERSBURG NEIGHBORHOOD TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PROGRAM. CERTAINLY THAT'S WHAT COUNSEL WOULD LIKE TO DO. WE CAN WE CAN HAVE STAFF DEVELOPED A PROGRAM AND BRING BACK A DRAFT. I THINK WE COULD PROBABLY HAVE IT DONE. UH, BY THE SUMMER. THAT WE TALKED ABOUT, MR LANCE. I BELIEVE WE CAN HAVE A DRAFT THE FIRST DRAFT FINISH BY MID MARCH. HOPEFULLY, A FINAL DRAFT COMPLETED BY. DID YOU LET ME JUST YOU JUST SAID MID MARCH. THAT'S LIKE NEXT WEEK. I'M SORRY. I'M SORRY. THANKS FOR THE CORRECTION. I'M SORRY. UM I BELIEVE, YEAH. IT'S GONNA TAKE APPROXIMATELY THREE MONTHS COME UP WITH THE ROUGH DRAFT, AND THEN IT'S GOING TO TAKE ANOTHER THREE MONTHS TO MAKE SURE IT GOES THROUGH A FULL VETTED REVIEW BECAUSE COUNCILS SHOULD REVIEW IT, TOO. MY GOAL IS TO COME UP WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PROGRAM THAT'S GOING TO WORK FOR THE CITY. CURRENTLY WE HAVE AN UNDEFINED PROCESS FOR DETERMINING HOW ARE WE GONNA UPROOT TRAFFIC COMMON IN THIS CITY? MY RECOMMENDATION. BACK IN FEBRUARY, THE 14TH WAS TO DEVELOP A NEIGHBORHOOD TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PROGRAM AND I COMMUNICATED THIS. AND I WOULD VERY MUCH LIKE TO COME UP WITH THE DOCUMENT. IT WORKS FOR INTERNALLY FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS ALSO WORKS FOR, UH , SITTING MANAGER'S OFFICE AND FOR COUNCIL AND MOST IMPORTANTLY , FOR THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT IT WOULD SERVE. WELL MR MR MAYOR, DO WE? I'M NOT SURE I DON'T WANT

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TO LEAVE THIS THING HANGING, THE CITY MANAGER SAID. IF IT IS THE WILL OF COUNCIL, I'LL DO THAT DO DO. WE NEED A MOTION DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO COME UP WITH THE PETERSBURG NEIGHBORHOOD TRANSIT MANAGEMENT PROGRAM, OR WILL DO WE NEED NOT TO BE THAT FORMAL AND KIND OF BELLIGERENT ABOUT IT. I'M HAPPY TO JUST SAY PLEASE, AND IT GETS DONE, BUT LET'S LET'S LET'S SAY PLEASE, AND YOU CAN LET'S GET IT DONE AND WE'LL GET THE CITY MANAGER TO BRING IT BACK TO US ON THE MEETING ON THE 21ST. OKAY I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT THE BUSINESS. WHAT THE BUSINESS MEDIA. MAY CAN WE? WE THINK WE CAN GET IT TO THE MAY WORK SESSION JUNE JUNE. RIGHT SO BRING IT BACK TO THE JUNE WORK SESSION. THAT'S OKAY. PLEASE TAKE OKAY? WELL THAT'S GREAT.

AND THANK YOU, MR MAYOR. THANK YOU, MR LANCE. AND THANK YOU. MR CITY MANAGER WOULD IN THAT, UH, PETERSBURG NEIGHBORHOOD TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PROGRAM. WE WOULD YOU ADDRESS PLEASE. WHAT CAN BE DONE TO REDUCE THE SPEED BETWEEN AH, LET'S SAY, UH, THE OLD HOSPITAL SITE THERE AT THE HEIGHT OF THE TOP OF SYCAMORE STREET AND CHURCH'S FRIED CHICKEN. AH IT'S A SPEEDWAY. IT'S AN ABSOLUTE SPEEDWAY WALK ALONG THERE, AND I'M JUST I SEE CAUSE I KNOW THEY'RE GOING 45. AH AND I SUSPECTED PLENTY TO GO FASTER THAN THAT. I JUST AM NOT THERE. BUT COULD THAT BE ADDRESSED? I THINK IT'S A DIFFICULT PROBLEM, AND I DON'T KNOW I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWERS, BUT I THINK WE NEED SOME ANSWERS. WELL, THE SHORT ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION WOULD BE THAT YES, MY THOUGHT WOULD BE THE NEIGHBORHOOD TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PROGRAM. IT'S GOING TO BE A MULTILAYERED APPROACH.

THERE'S NO ONE SINGLE ANSWER TO FIX OVER THESE PROBLEMS WITH SPEEDING. TO POSSIBLY ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT FOR THAT CORRIDOR. IS GOING TO BE CHANGING THE PAVEMENT MARKINGS. THERE ARE SOME OTHER THINGS THAT WE CAN CONSIDER TO IMPLEMENT AS FAR AS PLACING SOME SORT OF STRUCTURES THAT WERE ACTUALLY PROVIDE A VISUAL. MEANS OF ENCOURAGING TRAFFIC TO SLOW DOWN. BECAUSE WE ALL TEND TO DRIVE THE SAME METHODS. WE LOOK AT WHERE WE HEADED. WE TRY TO EVALUATE WHETHER IT'S SAFE TO GET THROUGH THERE, AND WE ADJUST SPEED ACCORDINGLY. SO IF YOU HAVE A VERY OPEN CORRIDOR. UH LOT OF DRIVERS ARE GONNA NATURALLY TEND TO GO FASTER THAN THEY SHOULD AND WITHOUT HAVING LAW ENFORCEMENT THERE TO CONTROL THOSE PEOPLE THAT MISBEHAVED, THEN WE'RE KIND OF LIMITED IN WHAT WE CAN DO. UNFORTUNATELY FOR THAT CORRIDOR THAT WOULD BE ONE THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED A MAJOR. ROUTE FOR EMERGENCY VEHICLES. IT WOULDN'T BE OPEN FOR SPEED BUMPS OR SPEED TABLES OF THOSE TYPES OF DEVICES. BUT I THINK THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE COULD DO. WELL, THANK YOU, MR LANCE. UH, I CERTAINLY THINK WE'VE COME A LONG WAY TOWARDS SOLVING SOME OF THESE MOST VEXING AND PROBLEMS THAT REALLY HAVE TROUBLED THE CONSTITUENTS OF ALL OF US. I DON'T CARE WHERE OUR CONSTITUENTS COME FROM SPEEDING. THERE'S A PROBLEM IN THIS CITY. AND I THINK WITH I THINK WE'VE COME A LONG WAY FROM WHERE WE STARTED. SO I LOOK FORWARD TO THAT. DRAFT OF THE PETERSBURG NEIGHBORHOOD TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PROGRAM AT OUR JUNE WORK SESSION. THANK YOU, MR LANSING. AND, UH, MR ALTMAN AND MR MAYOR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

MEMBERS OF COUNCIL AND NEXT VICE MAYOR, HILL. UM MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, I THINK TO MAKE IT A SEAMLESS I THINK WE NEED TO PUT THAT IN THE MOTION BECAUSE WE TYPICALLY HAPPENS YOU MAY HAVE ONE OR TWO EXPORT REQUEST OF SUCH MAGNITUDE AND FOR RECORD KEEPING PURPOSES. I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT PARTICULAR ONE IN THE FORM OF A MOTION. SO, UH COUNCILMAN COUPLE IF YOU WILL.

YES, SIR. UM. WITH THE WITH THE LEAVE OF CAN WE DO THAT? NOW? OKAY, UM MR. WILLIAMS IS OKAY TO MAKE A MOTION HERE IN THE WORK SESSION. OR WOULD YOU ADVISE NOT TO YOU CAN'T IT'S SIMPLY DIRECTION TO STAFF. IT'S NOT EXECUTIVE ACTION COUNSELOR. COVER BIRTH MOVE THAT COUNCIL HEREBY DIRECTS STAFF TO PRESENT TO COUNSEL. AT OUR JUNE WORK SESSION. A PETERSBURG NASH NEIGHBORHOOD. TRAFFIC. MANAGEMENT PROGRAM TO ADDRESS PROBLEMS. EXCUSE ME. ADDRESS PROBLEMS THROUGHOUT THE CITY, INCLUDING UM SO THE SECOND WATER STREET BETWEEN CAMERON FIELD AND

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CHURCH'S FRIED CHICKEN ALRIGHT, VICE MAYOR HILL. ALRIGHT. ALRIGHT. SECOND. ALRIGHT UM, DISCUSSION COUNSELOR JONES ON THE MOTION. JUST MR LANCE AND. TO COVER TALKED ABOUT ABOUT THERE'S NO ONE ANSWER, BUT IT IS IT'S CALLED DRIVER BEHAVIOR. AND EVERYBODY IN THIS ROOM. HAS BEEN THROUGH COLONIAL HEIGHTS AND CHESTERFIELD AND EVERYWHERE ELSE AND Y'ALL SLOW TO HELP EVERYBODY SLOW DOWN. BECAUSE OF POLICE PRESENCE. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE IT GOES BACK TO MY TALK ABOUT THE BUDGET THAT WE GET THE AMOUNT OF OFFICERS WE NEED. AND PUT THEM IN THESE PLACES. SO THAT WE COULD GET THAT SPEEDING TICKET MONEY. AND CONTROL THAT DRIVING BEHAVIOR. ALL RIGHT, THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS NO, IT'S WE AIN'T GOT TO PUT A LOT OF PEOPLE THERE PUTS SPEED DEVICES THERE IN THE COP CAR WITH HANDCUFFS, TICKET BOOKS. AND REVENUE GONNA GO UP AND EVERYBODY GET THEIR MONEY. SPEEDING WILL START. SIMPLE AS THAT. ALRIGHT WE HAVE EMOTION A SECOND. NEXT, MADAM CLERK. PLEASE CALL THE RULE. 1000 MEMBER COMFORT. REMEMBER JONES? COUNCIL MEMBER SMOOTHLY. I COUNCIL MEMBER MYERS CASTLE MEMBER WESTBROOK. NICE, MR HILL.

MAYOR PERM FAST ALRIGHT. THANK YOU, MR LANCE. NEXT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM 13 FACILITIES AND

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ASSESSMENT OF VACANT AND PARTIALLY VACANT CITY BUILDINGS FOR CITY STAFF, MR WILLIAMS GOOD EVENING MAYOR, VICE MAYOR MEMBERS OF COUNCIL PRESENTATION. WANNA WANNA GIVE THAT'S UH SHOWS THE ASSESSMENT OF VACANT AND PARTIALLY VACANT. THE CITY BUILDERS. AND BY PARTIALLY VACANT THAT THAT MEANS THAT BASICALLY THAT THERE ARE SOME AREAS IN THE BUILDING. THAT STAFF THAT OTHER STAFF CAN CAN BE IT. OKAY, SO WE'LL START WITH CITY HALL. ALL RIGHT. I'VE GOT SOME INFORMATION CONTAINED IN THE PRESENTATION, WHICH WILL HAVE SQUARE FEET. NUMBER FOUR NUMBER OF FLOORS, BASEMENTS, RESTROOMS. UM RIGHT NOW ON THE FIRST FLOOR. WE'VE GOT CUSTOMER SERVICE SECTION THAT THAT'S ACROSS FROM THE TREASURER'S OFFICE DOES NOT BEING YOU LAST.

UM WE ALSO HAVE SOME REPAIRS THAT I NEEDED. WE'VE GOT A PURCHASE ORDER OUT THERE FOR A ROOF REPLACEMENT. WE'VE GOT SOME INTERIOR PLASTER WALLS THAT ARE BEING IMPACTED BY WATER. THAT'S COMING BETWEEN THE WALLS. AS A RESULT OF THE DRAINS UNDER THE ROOF UNDER THE CURRENT ROOF.

WE'VE GOT SOME EXTERIOR WINDOWS THAT NEED TO BE REPAIRED, SCRAPED AND PAINTED, AND CURRENTLY THERE'S A TASK ORDER IN THERE IN WHICH, THERE'S A DESIGNED FOR UH, RESTROOMS IN THE MEN'S AND THE WOMEN'S RESTROOM. AND CITY HALL NEXT SLIDE. SEE THE WHOLE ANNEX PARTIALLY VACANT THERE. UH UPON THE SECOND FLOOR, THERE ARE FIVE OFFICERS. FIRST FLOOR HAS, UH, WE HAVE SOME DETECTIVES IN THE PREVIOUSLY UH IN THE IN THE BACK OF THE ROOM WHERE THE GLASS PANES ARE ON THE FIRST FLOOR, AND THEN WE HAVE SOME OTHER OFFICERS ON THE SECOND FLOOR OR IN THE BASEMENT. WE'VE GOT FIVE MARSHALS. UH, THAT THAT ARE CURRENTLY THERE, BUT WE ALSO HAVE REPAIRS THAT WE MADE IN FISCAL YEAR 22 THE ROOF TO THE SOFFIT INTO THE BRICK MASONRY BRICK MASONRY IN THE AMOUNT OF $300,000. SO THERE IS ROOM THERE ALSO FOR SOME STATES. NEXT SLIDE. OKAY WE'VE GOT THE OLD T BUILDING 1 42 NORTH UNION STREET THAT'S CURRENTLY VACANT.

CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW THERE'S SOME EXTERIOR STUCCO AND INTERIOR, PLASTER AND PAINTING THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. UM THERE WAS SOME AWNINGS THAT YOU LOOK AT THE TOP OF THE DOOR THERE ON THAT. FRONT DOOR. YOU'LL SEE THAT LINE SO THERE ARE THINGS THAT NEED TO BE PUT ON THE BUILDING TO PREVENT THE WATER. FROM THE RAIN THAT COMES DOWN AND WATCHES ALONG THE BOTTOM OF THE OF THE BUILDING.

ALSO UNDERNEATH THERE. THERE'S A . THERE'S AN OPEN AREA BASEMENT OR SOME STEPS IN BETWEEN THAT AND THE OLD COLD BUILDING IN WHICH IT GETS WET, AND IT HAS WATER. PAID UH, J S COME OUT AND

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TAKE A LOOK AT IT. AND THEY RECOMMENDED A FRENCH DRAIN. UM, SOME PUMPS. AND NEXT SLIDE. OKAY THE FORMER CODE COLD COMPLIANCE BUILDING. THAT'S THE BUILDING THAT WOULD NEED THE MOST MOST WORK. UM J S ALSO LOOKED AT THAT UNDERNEATH, AND THAT REQUIRES MUCH MORE. WELL IT REQUIRES SOME OF THE SAME INFORMATION IN TERMS OF FRENCH STRAINS SUMP PUMPS, BUT ALSO BECAUSE IT'S BEEN SITTING THERE SO LONG AND BECAUSE OF THE WATER THAT'S DRAINING. IT'S GOT SOME ICE BLASTING, THAT WOULD BE NEEDED TO BE DONE IN THE BASEMENT AND ON TWO MILLION FLOOR TOO REMOTE TO MOVE SOME OF THE MOST SPORTS FROM THE WOULD HAVE TO BE STRIPPED DOWN TO THE STUDS AND THEN INTERIOR WOULD HAVE TO BE REBUILT. PROMINENT STUDS. DEMOLITION COSTS. WE'LL PROBABLY BE IN 102 150,000 PRICE RANGE, HOWEVER. THEN YOU WOULD HAVE. IT WILL COST MUCH MORE TO PUT SOMETHING THERE, AS OPPOSED TO. REHAB. WHAT'S ALREADY THERE? NEXT SLIDE. OKAY SO WE'VE GOT 400 EAST WASHINGTON STREET, THE FORMER ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BUILDING AS AS WE KNOW THAT'S CURRENTLY VACANT. WE'VE GOT FOUR OFFICERS IN THERE AS WELL AS A LARGE, UH, MIDDLE AREA. WHAT'S NEEDED THERE? WE'VE GOT SOME PAINTING THE H V. A SYSTEM WOULD NEED TO BE REPLACED. WE'VE GOT SOME EXTERIOR, CARPENTRY AND WOODWORK. AND ALSO PROBABLY IN THE NEXT AND THE 3 TO 5 YEARS PROBABLY NEED TO LOOK AT THE ROOF AND CURRENTLY HAS A SLAVE SLATE ROOF NEAR THERE ARE SOME MINOR REPAIRS THAT WOULD BE DONE TO THE FLASHING ON THE ROOF. NEXT SLIDE. WE'VE GOT 18 98 MIDWAY AVENUE, WHICH IS THE FORMER FACILITIES MAINTENANCE BUILDING, WHICH REALLY THAT JUST NEEDS MORE CLEANING, AND THAT'S THEM STUFF THAT STAFF CAN DO CLEAN PAINTING THOSE KIND OF THINGS AND THEN FURTHER DOWN. YOU ALSO HAVE A SHOP THAT WE STILL CURRENTLY USED THAT FACILITIES MANAGEMENT STILL CURRENTLY USES TO, UM, FOR SOMETIMES THEY WILL HAVE FURNITURE AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS FOR OTHER DEPARTMENTS THAT MIGHT ONE OF YOU LAST THAT NEXT SLIDE. AH OKAY. LAST MINUTE AT LEAST WE'VE GOT CURRENTLY THE OH, UM, SO FORM OF SOCIAL SERVICES BUILDING AT 400. FARMER STREET. MADE SOME PROGRESS THERE . IN TERMS OF WE HAD SOME SOME WATER DAMAGE THERE THAT'S BEEN TAKEN CARE OF. UH, IN TERMS OF, UM MAKING SURE THE BUILDING IS DRY SOME OF THE WALLS OPEN TILES REMOVED CARPET REMOVED ON THAT RIGHT SIDE OF THE BUILDING CURRENTLY NOW WE'VE GOT INMATES, REMOVING, UM MOVING FURNITURE AND OTHER THINGS. ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE BUILDING, AND WE'RE WORKING WITH MERIDIANS AS WELL AS ONE OF THE METAL COMPANIES FOR SOME OF THE SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT WERE CONTAINED IN THE BUILDING. ALSO, THERE'S A FB OUT FOR UM. FOR THE FIRST PHASE OF THE RENOVATION FOR THE BUILDING, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE THE EXTERIOR ENVELOPE. UM BEINGS WERE DUE IN YESTERDAY. AND THEY WERE DUE TO BE OPEN TODAY. UM SO UH, BUT I HAPPEN NEXT IS THE ENGINEERS. WE'LL GET WITH, UM CHIEF CHRISTIAN TO KIND OF BE SCOPING OUT. THE UPCOMING PHASES. QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. FOR THE PRESENTATIONS. WILLIAMS. ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCILOR JONES. COUNCILOR COOPER. HOW YOU DOING, MAN? DOING ALL RIGHT? UM. BUT SINCE WE GOT SOCIAL SERVICES UP HERE, OKAY, PLANNING ON SOCIAL SERVICES MOVED BACK INTO THAT BUILDING OR ONCE IT'S FIXED OR BECAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S GOING TO OCCUPY. I'VE BEEN. I'VE BEEN TOLD THAT POLICE DEPARTMENT WILL BE THE NEW POLICE DEPARTMENT.

DIDN'T DIDN'T WE JUST SAY EARLIER BOAT BUILDING A NEW POLICE DEPARTMENT. POLICE STATION. UM, I THINK THAT. I THINK WHAT YOU WAS TALKING ABOUT THE RESOLUTION. YES. OKAY RESOLUTION. THEY ARE CONFUSING THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WITH THE COURTHOUSE. THEY NEEDED TO PUT THE TWO BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT RENOVATION OF THE OLD SOCIAL SERVICES BUILDING. FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, BASICALLY MOVING INTO ONE OF OUR AREAS WHERE WE HAVE A HIGHER LEVEL OF

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ACTIVITY. UH, SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS MOMENT. I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE'RE NOT RENOVATING. THE SOCIAL SERVICES BUILDING FOR SOCIAL SERVICES. I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN I MEAN WE WRITTEN FOR SOCIAL SERVICES NOW TO SOMEBODY CLEAN OUT THE WAY THIS IS RIGHT HERE WITH PEOPLE USED TO COME INTO. DON'T NEED TO ASK FOR THAT RIGHT NOW. I JUST WANT TO GO AND GET THROUGH MY QUESTIONS, SO EVERYBODY GET NO PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE PROGRAM. DO YOU EVEN HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE TO DO PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE ON CITY BUILDINGS? NO. I DIDN'T THINK SO . YOU NEED THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE YOU GET THAT. UM ANOTHER QUESTION FOR INSPECTIONS. HAVE ANY OF THESE PROBABLY BEEN EXPECTED BY THE FIRE MARSHALS. SOME HAVE YES. YOU MAKE SURE THEY NEED TO EXPECT THEM TO RIGHT, UM, LAST QUESTION. HMM. I ACTUALLY SOMETHING ENTITIES PROPERTIES. IS ON THAT LIST. ANY OF THEM UP FOR SALE. AND HAS ANYBODY THAT GOT TASHA ANYBODY UP HERE TRYING TO BUY NO, THEY'RE NOT FOR SALE. NO, NOT FOR SALE. THAT'S ALL I GOT. OKAY ONE MORE THING. JUST SO YOU KNOW, SO WE'VE GOT, UM THERE ARE ALSO IN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT OR IN THE CAPITAL BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 23. THERE WERE SOME FUNDS THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN SET ASIDE FOR SOME OF THESE BUILDINGS. WELL, NOT FOR ALL OF THEM. BUT I KNOW WE DO HAVE JUST F Y WE DO HAVE A EVERY FISCAL YEAR, WE PUT 500,000 ASIDE IN THE CAPITAL RESERVE, SO THAT'S THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CURRENTLY YOU LAST AND EVERY USED LIES IN THAT RIGHT NOW FOR UM, THAT'S WHAT WE USED AS NAIL FOR THE BATHROOMS AND CITY HALL CITY HALL ANNEX AND FOR THE ROOF ON TO THE WHOLE. LIKE THAT'S COUNCIL TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET, UM. THIS DEPARTMENT WHAT THEY NEED TO DO PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE ON ALL OUR CITY BUILDINGS, BECAUSE IF NOT, WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH THIS OVER AND OVER AGAIN. THIS LIST GONNA BE DOUBLE NEXT YEAR AND TRIPLE THE NEXT YEAR AFTER THAT, IF WE DON'T GIVE THEM THE PEOPLE THAT HE NEEDS TO DO PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE, JUST PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE IS ALL WE NEED TO BE DONE THE ASSETS THEY'RE STILL THEIR ASSETS. SO REALLY, IF WE INVEST IN THIS CITY ASSETS BALANCE SHEET LOOKS BETTER, I FINANCIALS. FINANCIAL POSITION ALSO LOOKS BETTER. IT HELPS US HELPS US THERE, TOO. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. COUNCILOR COVER BIRTH, THEN COUNCILOR MS SMITH LEE. THANK YOU, MR MAYOR. MR. ALTMAN DO KIND OF BRING THIS DISCUSSION. INTO THE REALM OF VOTE. CLOSE TO AN ACTION PLAN.

WHAT WHAT DO WE ASK FOR AND WHEN CAN YOU GIVE IT TO US? UH, MR WILLIAMS HAS GIVEN US A LOT OF GOOD INFORMATION. BUT I DON'T WANT TO JUST WALK AWAY AND SAY, WELL, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. AH! NO. INSPIRATION WHAT? WHAT USE ARE WE GONNA MAKE OF THIS INFORMATION? I'M WONDERING, FOR EXAMPLE. UH AT OUR MEETING ON MARCH, 21 COULD YOU COME BACK TO US WITH A RECOMMENDATION? AS TO THE FUTURE USE OR DISPOSITION OF EACH OF THESE BUILDINGS. UH A BUDGET WHERE WE PROPOSED WHERE YOU PROPOSE. TO RETAIN THE BUILDING FOR CITY USE AND A TIMETABLE FOR CARRYING OUT THAT BUDGET. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT THAT YOU COULD DO. WE CAN CERTAINLY BRING BACK RECOMMENDATIONS. I DON'T KNOW THAT. 21ST WILL GIVE US TIME TO GET ALL OF THE COST ESTIMATES THAT WE WOULD NEED ON ALL OF THESE BUILDINGS. BUT WE COULD TARGET THE APRIL MEETING THE APRIL WORK SESSION TO HAVE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION WITH REGARD TO SOME OF THE ADDITIONAL COSTS THAT WEREN'T QUANTIFIED TODAY WITH RECOMMENDATIONS FOR FUTURE OR CURRENT USE. UH AND WE HAVE TO PUT, YOU KNOW WE'LL PUT THAT IN THE CONTEXT OF HIM.

WHERE WE'RE GOING AND WHAT WE SEE FROM STAFF GROWTH OR WHAT THAT MAY BE, SO WE CAN WE CAN LOOK, WE CAN DO THAT AND BRING THAT BACK IN APRIL THAT THAT WOULD BE GREAT. I'M NOT TRYING TO CRAM IT INTO YOU KNOW, A TIMETABLE THAT WE CANNOT ACHIEVE . I THINK THE APRIL WORK SESSION WOULD BE GREAT. BUT TO INCLUDE A PROPOSED USE BY THE CITY OR DISPOSITION BY THE CITY. AND IF WE'RE GOING TO RETAIN IT A BUDGET AND A TIMETABLE FOR MAKING THE NECESSARY IMPROVEMENTS. THAT WOULD BE A BIG HELP TO US ALL. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. COUNCILMAN SMITH LEE.

UM I JUST WANT TO MAKE A STATEMENT IN REFERENCE TO THE SOCIAL SERVICE DEPARTMENT. IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, TANGELA THEY WE RENOVATED THE SOCIAL SERVICES BUILDING A FEW YEARS AGO. WE?

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BECAUSE THE EMPLOYEES. STATED THAT THEY WERE MOLD. IN THERE AND WE RENOVATED IT. WE YES. AND THEN WE PUT EVERYBODY BACK IN THERE. THE EMPLOYEES. SOME OF THEM WERE GETTING SICK AND THEY STILL WAS NOT. SATISFIED WITH THAT BUILDING. THEY THEY DIDN'T WANT TO STAY IN THAT FIELD. AM I RIGHT? CORRECT. AND THAT'S THE REASON WHY WE HAD TO GET A PLACE WHERE THEY WERE COMFORTABLE AND WAS NOT, UM, ABOUT TO SUE US BECAUSE SOME OF THE EMPLOYEES HAD SOME ISSUES SOME HEALTH ISSUES YOU'RE CORRECT. SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WAS EXPLAINING THAT I EXPLAINED THE REASONING WHY THE EMPLOYEES AND SOCIAL SERVICES IS OFFER RES ROLE. YES, MA'AM. RIGHT? STATE CAME IN AND EVALUATED AND THEY WANTED THEM ALSO TO BE PLACED SOMEWHERE ELSE. AM I RIGHT? YOU ARE CORRECT. THEY ALSO STATED THAT THERE WAS NOT GONNA CONTRIBUTE AND THE STATE IS PAYING THE MAJORITY OF THE RENT, OKAY? ALL RIGHT. NO COUNSELING JONES. I KNOW THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WHERE BULLETPROOF IS BUT I KNOW THEY'RE NOT MOVE PROOF, SO IF IT AIN'T GOOD FOR SOCIAL SERVICES THAN ANY GOOD FOR THEM YOU KNOW, NUMBER ONE NUMBER TWO TO FIRE PART. FIRE DEPARTMENT GOT MORE ALL IN THAT STATION. I DON'T SEE NOBODY SAYING LET'S GET THEM A NEW STATION. YOU KNOW, SO WE CAN'T REALLY GO ON THAT LOGIC. ON WHAT THE EMPLOYEES DON'T WANT. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO DO PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE. AND THIS CITY JUST SIMPLE AS THAT. WE'RE GONNA GIVE YOU WHAT YOU NEED. WE CANNOT IGNORE THAT. Y'ALL WE CAN'T IGNORE. WE'VE BEEN IGNORING IT TOO LONG. TOO LONG. I DON'T CARE WHAT THE STATE SAYS. IT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO TAKE CARE OF EMPLOYEES. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MISS ENNIS. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU, MR WILLIAMS. NEXT IS

[14. Economic Development]

ITEM 14 ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. ITEM. EIGHT IS A PRESENTATION FROM CARBON COMPANIES. MR MOORE.

GOOD EVENING, MR MAYOR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL TONIGHT WE HAVE A PRESENTATION. GREAT COMPANY, KABA. UM THEY'RE GONNA TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND THE CHIEFS IN THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE CITY. OH, WELL COME FORWARD. THANK YOU, MR MAYOR, MR VICE MAYOR, MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. THANK YOU FOR HAVING US TODAY. MY NAME IS WES HAUGLAND.

I'M ACTUALLY THE VICE PRESIDENT OF ACQUISITIONS FOR CAVA COMPANY . THIS IS JB SAMUEL, OUR ACQUISITIONS MANAGER. WE'VE BEEN MEETING WITH YOUR STAFF OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS, AND WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO TALK TO YOU TODAY ABOUT AN INITIATIVE THAT WE HAVE TO BUILD SOME AFFORDABLE HOUSING. UM RIGHT NOW CITY OF PETERSBURG HAS DOZENS OF HOME SITES THAT COULD BE BUILT ON THAT WE'D LIKE TO BUILD ON WE THINK THAT THE CITY IS PERFECT FOR WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING. AND TODAY WE'RE GOING TO TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHO WE ARE. WHAT WE DO WHAT WE CAN DELIVER, AND THEN WE'LL TAKE YOUR QUESTIONS AT THE END. UM SO TO START OUT IF YOU CAN GO THE FIRST SLIDE. THANK YOU. SO WHO IS CAVA? COS WE'RE A COMPANY THAT'S BASED OUT OF RICHMOND. UM SOME OF YOU MAY HAVE HEARD OF US WERE ESTABLISHED IN 2007 WERE THE LARGEST REAL ESTATE INVESTMENT FIRM THAT'S CONCENTRATED SOLELY ON CENTRAL VIRGINIA. THE MAJORITY OF THE WORK THAT WE'VE DONE SO FAR HAS BEEN IN THE CITY OF RICHMOND, AND WE BUILT THOUSANDS OF HOMES. UM WE ACTUALLY OWN NEARLY 500 RENTAL PROPERTIES IN THE AREA. UM AND 80% OF OUR RENTAL PORTFOLIO IS AFFORDABLE HOUSING. WE BELIEVE IN COMMUNITY SERVICE, GIVING BACK TO THE COMMUNITY AND HAVING WIN WIN SITUATIONS WHERE WE CAN PROVIDE AWESOME HOUSING FOR THE RESIDENTS AND MAKE IT A PROFITABLE VENTURE AS WELL. YOU CAN GO TO THE NEXT I WANT TO SHOW YOU A LITTLE VIDEO ABOUT WHY WE'RE DOING THIS.

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AND CARVER. I OWN A COMPANY HERE IN RICHMOND, VIRGINIA, CALLED CABLE COMPANIES. WE ARE REAL ESTATE INVESTORS. REAL ESTATE INVESTORS ARE IN MOST INSTANCES. YOU GO DIRECT THE HOMEOWNERS.

YOU BUY THEIR HOUSE, AND THEN MOST PEOPLE JUST PUT IT BACK ON THE MLS, OR THEY SELL TO OTHER WHOLESALERS AND COLLECT THE FEE . ARE WE DO ALL THOSE THINGS? BUT WHAT MAKES US DIFFERENT THAN EVERYBODY ELSE IS THIS? WE LIVE HERE IN TOWN. WE WANT TO ACTUALLY MAKE AN IMPACT ON THE COMMUNITY, AND WE'RE TRYING TO DO THE RIGHT THING. WE OWN WELL OVER 200 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES THAT ARE ALL PURPOSE FOR RENTAL OTHER STUFF AS WELL. BUT WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT TODAY IS OUR RENTAL PORTFOLIO OF GROUP OF NORTH OF 200 UNITS. MORE THAN 90% OF OUR UNITS ARE RENTED THROUGH AFFORDABLE MEANS. WHAT DOES THIS MEAN? RH A OR SECTION EIGHT. WE RENT DIRECTLY TO FOLKS WITH VOUCHERS. WE WORK WITH NONPROFITS AND ALL TYPES OF PEOPLE IN BETWEEN THAT ARE HELPING PEOPLE HERE. THEY'RE DOWN ON THEIR LUCK. NEED A HAND SOMETHING. WHEN I WAS A LITTLE KID FOR FIVE YEARS OLD. IT WAS THE LATE SEVENTIES AND THE ECONOMY SUCKED. MY DAD FILED UNEMPLOYMENT FOR ABOUT 120 DAYS AND WE COLLECTED UNEMPLOYMENT. HE TOLD STORIES ABOUT THAT. WE TALKED ABOUT HOW HARD IT WAS ON HIM. HER IT WAS ON US AND HIM BEING A NEW DAD AND I HAVE INCREDIBLE PARENTS. MY MOTHER IS ALSO A SCHOOL TEACHER AND JUST RECENTLY RETIRED FROM ALMOST 40 YEARS. THESE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO SHAPED ME. WE COULD FOCUS ON THE TOP END OF THE MARKET. ANYBODY CAN DO THAT. WHAT WE HAVE DONE INSTEAD AS WE FOCUS ON PEOPLE WHO NEED HELP. IN 2011. I STARTED BUYING AND FLIPPING HOUSES IN RICHMOND, VIRGINIA. AS YOU KNOW, THE HOMEBUILDING SECTOR WAS DECIMATED BECAUSE OF THE ECONOMY AND YOU CAN BUY THINGS THAT ARE VERY INEXPENSIVE PRICE BACK THEN I WAS A NEW BUSINESS OWNER TRYING TO FIGURE OUT MY WAY MOSTLY. WHAT WE DID IS WE BOUGHT HOUSES TURN THEM INTO RENTALS WE SOLD ON THE MLS. AS I START TO KIND OF UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT RICHMOND BACK THEN WHAT I REALIZED IS THERE'S A REAL NEED FOR AFFORDABILITY. SO WE STARTED TO BUILD AND RENOVATE PROPERTIES THAT COULD BE USED IN THE AFFORDABLE PRODUCT LINE, WHICH WE TALKED ABOUT. BUT I ALSO NOTICED THAT IN EMERGING NEIGHBORHOODS I'M SITTING IN NORTH SIDE RIGHT NOW. INEXPENSIVE HOMESITES ARE LOTS THAT WERE AVAILABLE, SO I STARTED TO STOCKPILE THE STARTING ABOUT 2013. AND NOW WE OWN MORE THAN 100. SINGLE FAMILY, ONE OFF LOTS AROUND THE CITY. SO WHAT WE ARE DOING IS WE ARE STARTING TO BUILD BRAND NEW BUILD TO RENT AFFORDABLE HOUSING. NOBODY ELSE IN TOWN IS DOING THIS AND VERY, VERY FEW PEOPLE NATIONALLY HAVE BEEN ABLE TO FIGURE THIS OUT. TWO THINGS HAVE HAPPENED THAT HAVE ALLOWED ME TO DO THIS. FIRST OF ALL, I GOT PRETTY LUCKY AND STARTED BY LOTS WHEN THEY WERE VERY INEXPENSIVE SECOND DURING THE PANDEMIC. SECTION EIGHT RAISED RENTS. IT WAS A BIG DEAL. THEY WENT UP FROM ABOUT 200 TO $225 PER UNIT, PLUS INTEREST RATES CRATERED. SO I CAN SAVE AROUND 200 TO 250 BUCKS IN MY MORTGAGE AND BECAUSE YOU KNOW, SECTION EIGHT RAISED THE RENTS. THERE'S NOW ABOUT A $400 GAP THAT DIDN'T EXIST BEFORE. IN THE OLD DAYS. I COULDN'T BUILD THESE UNITS AND MAKE THEM AFFORDABLE. NOW I CAN SO WE ARE BRINGING MORE THAN 130 OF THESE OUT OF THE GROUND IN THE CITY OF RICHMOND. YEAH. YEAH. TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PRODUCT. BRAND NEW CONSTRUCTION. ONE OFF LOTS ALL AROUND THE CITY. ALMOST EVERY INSTANCE THERE'S THREE BEDROOMS 1.5 BATH. APPOINTED WITH TODAY'S APPOINTMENTS, THINGS THAT PEOPLE

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ARE EXCITED ABOUT, BUT WHAT HAPPENS IN A LOT OF INSTANCES WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS THE HOUSING STOCK IS OLD, SO PEOPLE MOVE INTO THOSE HOMES AND THEY CAN'T AFFORD IT BECAUSE UTILITIES ARE VERY EXPENSIVE AND THERE MAYBE NOT IN THE BEST SHAPE, SO THERE'S ALL KINDS OF PROBLEMS WE ARE HOPING TO DO. BRING THIS PRODUCT TO THE MARKET. RENT IT AND HAVE PEOPLE HAVE WHAT'S CALLED THE PRIDE AND MENTORSHIP. WE DON'T WANT THEM TO MOVE. WE WANT THEM TO COME IN COMFORTABLE HERE, BECOME PART OF THE COMMUNITY AND UNDERSTAND THEY LIVE IN INCREDIBLE HOUSE.

WHAT'S COOL ABOUT THIS? TAMMY 135 COSTS ABOUT $185 A FOOT SO. AT THAT TIME IS 13 35 35 MILLION BUCKS. THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE IN TOWN LOT. AND THAT'S AFFORDABLE HOUSING AFFORDABLE SECTION EIGHT HOUSING AND NOW IT COULD BE MARKET RATE. IT COULD BE SECTION 80 TO BE WHOEVER, BUT THE CITY'S BUDGET THE CITY'S BUDGET FOR 2020 TO 2.9 MILLION, AND WE'RE PUTTING IN 34 MILLION. I MENTIONED WE HAVE OVER 200 OF THESE NOW GIVE YOU SOME STATISTICS. WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR ALMOST 10 YEARS. OUR RETENTION RATE IS GREATER THAN 93% SO 93% OF OUR RESIDENTS RENEW YEAR OVER YEAR OVER YEAR, WHICH IS UNHEARD OF THE INDUSTRY AVERAGE IS ACTUALLY CLOSER TO ABOUT 50% SO WE'RE ALMOST TO XING. THAT STATISTIC. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR RESIDENTS OF RICHMOND? YOU GET TO MOVE IN. YOU GET TO GET COMFORTABLE. KIDS GET TO GET ACCUSTOMED TO THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD. MEET FRIENDS GO TO THE SAME SCHOOL AND THAT'S THE ABILITY THIS IS WHAT WE'RE HOPING TO OFFER. BUT YOU WERE GOING TO SEE IS A PRODUCT FROM THE BEGINNING TO THE END, AND WE'RE GOING TO SHOW IT STAGED. AND AS I'VE SAID BEFORE, THERE'S GOING TO BE HUNDREDS OF THESE. I WANTED TO JUST EXPOSE THE MARKETPLACE THAT WHAT WE'RE DOING. WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANYTHING. HONESTLY, WE'RE NOT. I WANT YOU TO KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING WHAT WE'RE DOING, AND IF THERE'S SOME WAY FOR YOU TO GET BEHIND US, AWESOME, BUT THIS IS WHAT WE'RE DOING BECAUSE WE BELIEVE IN RICHMOND. I LIVE IN THE CITY AND I WANT TO GET BACK TO THE CITY THAT I THINK IS INCREDIBLE. TRYING TO IMPROVE HEALTH OUTCOMES FOR AFRICAN AMERICANS BY INVESTING IN BLACK NEIGHBORHOODS. DR WILLIAMS TOLD US THAT THERE IS A 20 TO 25 YEAR GAP IN LIFE EXPECTANCY BASED ON THE COMMUNITIES WE LIVE IN. THAT'S A REMARKABLE NUMBER. THE LIFE EXPECTANCY NUMBERS ARE STARTLING. AND THEY ARE HORRIFIC . ONE OF THE PLACES WHERE FRANKLIN'S GROUP IS TRYING TO CHANGE THOSE NUMBERS IS HISTORIC SOUTH ATLANTA THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF ABOUT 2000 PEOPLE WHERE MICHELLE THOMAS AND HER KIDS NOW LIVE, DETERMINED THAT THERE WERE THREE KEY PILLARS. ONE IS COMMUNITY WELLNESS AND COMMUNITY HEALTH BECAUSE SENSE OF COMMUNITY SPIRIT ANOTHER IS ACCESSIBLE, AFFORDABLE HOUSING. AND THE THIRD IS EDUCATION IF WE CAN IMPROVE THE LIVING CONDITIONS OF INDIVIDUALS, WE ACTUALLY CAN IMPROVE THEIR HEALTH. LET ME GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE OF A STUDY THAT WAS DONE YEARS AGO WHERE THEY TOOK AFRICAN AMERICANS WHO LIVED IN PUBLIC HOUSING. AND RANDOMLY BY THE FLIP OF A COIN. SOME OF THEM REMAIN IN PUBLIC HOUSING, AND SOME OF THEM WERE GIVEN A VOUCHER WHERE THEY COULD GO AND FIND HOUSING AREAS OF LOWER LEVELS OF POVERTY. AND WHEN THE CURRENTLY WERE RESEARCH SHOWS 10 TO 15 YEARS LATER, THOSE AFRICAN AMERICANS WHO MOVE TO A BETTER NEIGHBORHOOD HAD LOWER RATES OF OBESITY. UM AND LOWER DIABETES RISK. NO HEALTH INTERVENTION. YOU JUST CHANGED THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I THINK ANYBODY WATCHING THIS VIDEO IS GOING TO UNDERSTAND HOW IMPORTANT WHERE YOU LIVE, AND YOUR HOUSE IS BUT THERE'S A VIDEO THAT I JUST PLAYED. AND IT'S FROM EXPERTS THAT WERE INTERVIEWED ON 60 MINUTES THERE FROM ATLANTA. AND HARVARD. WHAT HE TALKS ABOUT IS THE SINGLE BIGGEST THING YOU CAN DO. FOR THE MENTAL HEALTH AND FOR THE WELL BEING OF PEOPLE. IS SIMPLY MOVE THEM OUT OF CONCENTRATED POCKETS OF POVERTY. INTO NORMAL NEIGHBORHOODS. WE

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HAVE 100 AND 30 OF THESE LOTS IN THE CITY OF RICHMOND, ALL ONE OFFS, WHICH MEANS THEY'RE IN ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOODS WITH PEOPLE RUNNING AROUND AND KIDS, AND IT'S NOT CONCENTRATED POCKETS OF POVERTY. THEY'RE JUST NEIGHBORHOODS. SO WE'RE GOING TO BRING THESE PRODUCTS OUT OF THE GROUND, AND WE THINK IT WILL MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE. LONG TERM, THESE THINGS ARE HARD TO MEASURE. BUT THIS IS OUR MISSION. THIS IS OUR GOAL, AND THIS IS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.

THANK YOU FOR TAKING A FEW MINUTES TO WATCH THAT WITH US COUNSEL. I APPRECIATE IT, UM SO WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. LET'S TALK ABOUT WHAT THIS PROPERTY LOOKS LIKE WHEN WE'RE DONE WITH IT, UM THE HOUSE IS GOING TO BE, AS FRANK SAID. TYPICALLY IT'S A THREE BEDROOM 1.5 BATHROOM HOUSE 13 35 SQUARE FEET. STAINLESS STEEL APPLIANCES. FIRST FLOOR IS NICE, OPEN CONCEPT. THAT'S ALL NEW CONSTRUCTION. AH THEY DO COMPLY WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING CHOICE VOUCHER PROGRAM REQUIREMENTS AS WELL. I'M SURE THAT COME INTO PLAY. THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

BENEFITS OF DOING NEW CONSTRUCTION VERSUS SALVAGING OR RESTORING OLDER HOMES IN THE AREA. UM, FIRST OFF. IT IS GOING TO BE A LOWER COST TO THE RESIDENTS. HEATING COSTS ARE REDUCED COOLING COSTS REDUCED. DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY SAYS ABOUT 9% ON AVERAGE. WE ALSO GET INTO A SAFETY PERSPECTIVE WHERE ALL THE BUILDING MATERIALS MEET OR EXCEED CURRENT ENERGY EFFICIENT STANDARDS AS WELL AS SAFETY STANDARDS ON THESE, CAN I GET THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE? AH! THE COSTS. HOW THAT REALLY BREAKS DOWN. IN REAL WORLD TO THE RESIDENTS. WATER BILLS TYPICALLY GO DOWN ABOUT 33. LED LIGHTING FIXTURES, UM, TYPICALLY SAVE ABOUT $600 A YEAR AND SAVINGS TO THE RESIDENTS THEMSELVES. UM THAT ENDS UP WITH A PRETTY BIG NUMBER. FOR RESIDENTS THAT MAYBE NEED TO MAKE EVERY DOLLAR COUNTS $488 PER HOUSEHOLD. THAT'S A BIG SAVINGS. AND OUR RENTALS. THE FINISHES AND WHAT RESIDENT RETENTION REALLY, REALLY MEANS TO US. FRANK TALKED ABOUT THIS IN THE VIDEO. I WOULD LIKE TO REITERATE OUR GOAL IS TO CREATE PRIDE AND RENTER SHIP. WE GIVE THEM A NICE HOME. WE TREAT THEM INCREDIBLY WELL. AND WE WANT TO DO EVERYTHING IN OUR POWER. TO RETAIN OUR RESIDENTS. THE RESIDENTS AS A RESULT. YOU'VE EXPERIENCED THIS. MAINTAIN THE HOUSE BETTER. THEY SHOW IT OFF TO THEIR FRIENDS. THIS CREATES A DRAW TO THE COMMUNITIES CREATES A DRAW TO THE PROPERTIES. AND AS FREAK MENTIONED, I THINK THIS IS ALSO SOMETHING WE NEED TO BEAR IN MIND. PEOPLE STAY THEY BECOME A PART OF AN ESTABLISHED COMMUNITY. AND THAT STABILITY IS AMAZING IN THE LIVES OF CHILDREN AND FAMILIES IN PETERSBURG. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. WE GIVE THEM THIS? IT'S A DESIGN THAT'S CONSTANTLY UPDATED AND REVIEWED. TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S EFFICIENT TO MAKE SURE IT'S SAFE. FOR EVERYBODY IN IT. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT INSIDE AND OUTSIDE THIS IS AN EFFICIENT GOOD PLACE TO LIVE. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. WE MET. WITH BRIAN MOORE AND WE SPOKE WITH WITH COUNCIL MEYERS AND MR TABOR. UM AND WE HEARD ONE THING BACK THAT REALLY KIND OF STRUCK HOME WITH US. AH WE WANTED TO RESPOND TO THAT THAT SAYS. THERE'S GOING TO BE A DEMAND IN THIS COUNTRY. IT'S STARTING NOW. I THINK WE'RE ALL FEELING WE CAN ALL LOOK AROUND AND SEE IT. WE'RE AGING AS A COUNTRY. AND THE DEMAND FOR SINGLE FAN SINGLE FAMILY HOMES THAT ARE SINGLE LEVEL. THAT ALLOW FOR SINGLE LEVEL LIVING. IS GOING TO INCREASE OUR ORIGINAL DESIGNERS AS YOU SAW TWO SORTS, AND THAT'S THE PRIMARY DESIGN. I THINK WE'D BE LOOKING AT PETERSBURG BUT WE PUT PEN TO PAPER. WE CAME UP WITH THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO PUT TOGETHER. AH! AND THIS CAN BE SET UP AS A TWO BEDROOM OR THREE BEDROOM DESIGN ABOUT 1000 SQUARE FEET, 1053 ALL THE BENEFITS OF OUR STANDARD DESIGN. AH, SIMILAR TO THE RENDERING. THAT'S A COMPUTER GENERATED IMAGE. UM ALLOWS FOR MORE RESIDENTS REALLY? TO REMAIN

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INDEPENDENT AND A PART OF THE COMMUNITY. FOR MANY YEARS LONGER. THAN THEY OTHERWISE WOULD HAVE. IT'S ALSO PROVIDES AN AFFORDABLE AND SAFE ENTRY INTO THIS MARKET. FOR THOSE FOLKS THAT REQUIRE THAT SINGLE LEVEL LIVING NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. BENEFITS TO THE RESIDENT AND THIS HARKENS BACK TO WHAT DR WILLIAMS WAS SAYING IN THIS IF WE CAN IMPROVE THE LIVING CONDITIONS OF INDIVIDUALS. WE CAN ACTUALLY IMPROVE THEIR HEALTH. AND THERE SHOULD BE A GOAL FOR ALL OF US. WE CAN PROVIDE THEM WITH A SAFE HOME. WE CAN PROVIDE THEM WITH A PRIDE AND RENTER SHIP OF BEING IN A GREAT HOME. SOMETHING FAR BEYOND WHAT THE MARKET SUPPLIES ON ITS OWN. I THINK WE'VE DONE THAT ENOUGH TIMES. NOW WE'VE GOT DOZENS OF EXAMPLES. WE DON'T BUILD HOUSES, WE BUILD BATTLESHIPS. THEY'RE MADE TO LAST. THEY'RE MADE TO BE GOOD PLACES TO LIVE AND TO GROW IN FOR MANY YEARS. AND THAT BETTER HEALTH RESULTS THAT SURELY FRANK WAS DISCUSSING IS REAL. THERE IS A 20 TO 25 YEAR GAP IN LIFE EXPECTANCY JUST BASED ON THE COMMUNITIES AND THE HOMES WE LIVE IN. THAT'S A HUGE NUMBER. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. HEY GUYS, I HATE TO INTERRUPT YOU. BUT THIS THIS IS GOING ON FOR QUITE SOME TIME, AND WE'VE SEEN SHALL I SAY WHAT? DOZENS OF THESE TYPE OF PRESENTATIONS AND I UNDERSTAND THE WHOLE THING ABOUT THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING THINGS IN NATURE. BUT YOU SAID SOMETHING ABOUT, UM ABOUT D CONCENTRATING THE POVERTY AND HERE IN THE PETERSBURG WE HAVE THE HIGHEST POVERTY RATE. IN THE COMMONWEALTH AND PEOPLE NEED NEED NEED THE ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO BUY HOMES AND THE AREAS OF THE COMMONWEALTH WHERE THEY'RE NOT WANTED. WHERE DO YOU NEED MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN HIM RIGHT GOAL AND CHESTERFIELD IN IN PRINCE GEORGE, WHERE THEY HAVE NICE ACCREDITED SCHOOLS. I CAN'T EAT SHANI SHINY NEW NEW RESTAURANTS AND HOTELS AND WATER PARKS. WE ARE HERE WE'VE WE HAVE 20,000 PEOPLE HERE ON PUBLIC ASSISTANCE BECAUSE WE HAVE A TON. OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE NOW. WE'RE TRYING TO BUILD A COMMUNITY HERE SO WE CAN GET SOME OF THE AMENITIES OF WHAT THE SHORT PUMPS OF THE WORLD HAVE. SO WE NEED THAT HIGHER INCOME LEVEL BRACKETS TO BALANCE OFF THE 20,000 THAT WE HAVE OUT OF THE 33,000. SO SO AT THIS POINT IN TIME. UM, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. BUT IF EVERYBODY ELSE COUNTS RECOVERY, HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD, OR YOU NO, THANK YOU, MR MAYOR. I THINK YOU SAID IT. WELL, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. UH HUH. OKAY. ALRIGHT, COUNSELOR, JONES. I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION, AND I SHARED THE SAME SENTIMENT AS THE MAYOR. UM AND THIS IS FOR YOU GUYS AND FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPER THE TOP THREE MAJOR RULES OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS INCOME JOBS AND QUALITY OF LIFE. A BLACK CITY MAJORITY BLACK CITY. THAT'S WHAT WE ARE, YES. BUT LET'S NOT GET IT TWISTED. BLACK PEOPLE IN THIS CITY. AIN'T THE ONLY ONE SUFFERING. AND STRUGGLING WHITE PEOPLE SUFFERING AND STRUGGLING CHINESE PEOPLE STRUGGLING AND SUFFERING, STRUGGLING, AND I'M TIRED OF HEARING THE SAME THING. TARGETING BLACK SUFFERING ANGELS US SUFFERING IT. IF YOU'RE IN PETERSBURG, YOU SUFFERED SOME WAY SHAPE, FORM OR FASHION AND I HOPE WE GIVE THIS ECONOMIC DEVELOPER BUDGET TO TRAVEL FARTHER THAN FATHER IN RICHMOND TO GET THOSE TOP THREE QUALITY OF LIFE INCOME AND JOBS. UH THIS RIGHT HERE. NO OFFENSE, BUT MR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WE NEED YOU TO DRIVE. WE NEED SOMETHING FROM OUTSIDE OF RICHMOND. WE DON'T WANT TO BE LIKE RICHMOND. NO OFFENSE TO RICHMOND, RICHMOND NEED TO STOP TRYING TO BE LIKE US. YOU NEED TO ADVERTISE US, NOT AS A POVERTY CITY BUT AS A CITY ON THE RISE WITH A MELTING POT OF PEOPLE. THAT'S WHAT WE ARE WE PETERSBURG. THAT'S WHAT WE ARE. AND I DON'T DISAGREE. YOU ARE PETERSBURG. I WANT AND I DON'T DISAGREE. YOU ARE PETERSBURG. PETERSBURG IS A WONDERFUL PLACE. ONE OF MY ONE OF MY BIGGEST GOALS. WHEN I FIRST MOVED HERE, I HATE TO PLAY THE CARPETBAGGER. BUT I GREW UP IN NORFOLK MOVED TO ALEXANDRIA LIVED THERE FOR 13 YEARS AND CAME HERE. MY WIFE AND I IMMEDIATELY FELL IN LOVE WITH TRYING TO FIGURE OUT YOU KNOW WHAT? WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO TO MAKE THIS OUR HOME TOO? WHEN WE FIRST SETTLED CLOSE TO FAMILY AND CHESTERFIELD, BUT I'M TELLING YOU, THIS IS ONE OF THE TOWNS THAT HAS TAKEN MY HEART, TOO. UM THERE'S A PLACE THAT I PERSONALLY INTENDED TO MAKE A HELMET SOME POINT. AH! WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO WITH THIS IS NOT TO INSTITUTIONALIZE WHERE PETERSBURG IS. I WANT TO START LIFTING THE BAR FOR WHAT WE DO

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IN PETERSBURG. FOR WHAT WE ACCEPT IN PETERSBURG AS HOUSING AT ALL. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE BUILDING SOMETHING NEW. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE BUILDING SOMETHING GREAT FOR THE RESIDENTS OF PETERSBURG, NOT SOMETHING THAT'S JUST OKAY AND SOMETHING THAT'S THERE FOR FOLKS THAT ARE IN A BAD SPOT. DO I WANT TO HELP THOSE FOLKS TO? YES. YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

COUNCILMAN JONES. I DO WANT TO HELP THOSE FOLKS AND THEY DO NEED A HAND. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NOW LOOK, COUNSELOR, MYERS AND LISTEN. THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR PRESENTATIONS, BUT THAT SUPPORTED YOU ALL COMING HERE, BUT I DID NOT SUPPORT AFFORDABLE RENTAL HOUSING. THAT'S NOT THE CONVERSATION I HAD. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BUILDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR SALE FOR OWN HOME OWNERSHIP. THAT'S WHAT I SUPPORTED. THAT'S NOT WHAT I HEARD TONIGHT, SO I WANT TO MAKE IT VERY CLEAR. THAT I WAS VERY SUPPORTIVE OF OUR CONVERSATION.

BUT TONIGHT I AM NOT OKAY, RIGHT? THANK YOU. THANK YOU GUYS FOR THE PRESENTATION. THANK YOU

[15. City Manager's Agenda]

APPRECIATE IT. NEXT MOVE ONTO ITEMS 15 CITY MANAGER AGENDA MR ALMOND AND ITEMS JUST WANT TO INFORM COUNCIL OF ONE THING. WE WERE INFORMED THAT WE WERE FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO RECEIVE $3.5 MILLION IN A CONGRESSIONAL APPROPRIATION TO REPLACE THE LOCKS, WATER MAIN AH, SO WE WANT TO THANK CONGRESSMAN MCEACHIN FOR HIS WORK ON SECURING THOSE FUNDS FOR US. IT'S BEEN A LITTLE TIME COMING WITH HIS PASSING AND GETTING THE INFORMATION. BUT WE DID RECEIVE CONFIRMATION THAT WE ARE GOING TO RECEIVE $3.5 MILLION TO REPLACE THE LOCKBOX FORMING SO MAKING PROGRESS ON ALL OF OUR UTILITY ISSUES. OKAY? ALRIGHT NEXT MOVE ON TO BUSINESS REPORTS FROM THE CLERK MISS LUCAS AND THE ITEMS ITEMS 17 BUSINESS REPORTS FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY MR WILLIAMS AND ITEMS PORTIONS, MAN. ALRIGHT NEXT IS ITEM 18 ADJOURNMENT RIGHT ALL IN FAVOR.

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