[1. Roll Call]
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EVERYONE. IT IS 12 01, AND WE'RE READY TO GET STARTED WITH THIS MARCH 8TH SPECIAL CITY COUNCIL MEETING. UM AT THIS TIME, MADAM CLERK. COULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? HOUSE MEMBER COMFORT YEAH.
JONES. COUNCIL MEMBER SMOOTHLY. PRESIDENT COUNSELOR. BUT MYERS PRESENT HERE, THE WESTBROOK.
VICE MAYOR HILL MAYOR PATTERN HI. THANK YOU. UM NEXT, WE ROLL ONTO ITEM TO WHICH IS OFFICIAL,
[2a. A Public Hearing and consideration of an ordinance approving an amendment to proffers previously adopted with the zoning for the properties located at 1200, 1220, 1225, and 1255 Harrison Creek Boulevard.]
UM, PUBLIC HEARINGS. WE HAVE TO A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION. ORDERS APPROVED AN AMENDMENT TO PROFFERS PREVIOUSLY ADOPTED WITH THE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 1212, 2012 25 AND 12 55. HARRIS AND CREEK BOULEVARD.I'M MR WELLS. WE'VE HAD THIS THE PUBLIC HEARING IN THE LAST MEETING. SO DO YOU WANT TO OPEN UP THIS LITTLE FOR THIS? YES I THINK YOU NEED TO OPEN UP THE FLOOR FOR ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS AT THE PUBLIC HEARING. ALRIGHT THE FLOOR IS OPEN THEM FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE PUBLIC HEARING.
ALL RIGHT, MR CHIP DICKS. GOOD AFTERNOON. GOOD AFTERNOON, SIR. UH MY NAME'S CHIP DICKS ON BEHALF OF BIKO AND HARRISON CREEK. AND IS IT YOUR WISH, MR MAYOR FOR ME TO MAKE A SIMILAR PRESENTATION OF WHAT I MADE LAST TIME OR I DON'T THINK YOU NEED IT. NO I WOULDN'T THINK NO, I WOULDN'T THINK WE NEED IT. SO UM , FOR THE RECORD, I WOULD ASK THAT THE RECORD OF FEBRUARY 21ST 2023 BE PUT INTO THE RECORD FOR THIS MEETING. AND IN PARTICULAR , I'D LIKE TO JUST COMMENT ON A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT THINGS. FIRST OF ALL, UM, THE 336 APARTMENTS THAT ARE THERE HAD BEEN VARIOUS ACTIVE SOURCE OF HOUSING FOR, UM, CITY OF PETERSBURG. YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMING AND PHARMACEUTICAL INDUSTRY AND A LOT OF OTHERS. HAVING GOOD QUALITY HOUSING IS IMPORTANT. THIS AMENDMENT TO THE PUT APPLICATION WOULD ADD 120 UNITS.
THE FIRST INVESTMENT FROM BIKO ASSET WAS ABOUT $60 MILLION. THIS INVESTMENT WOULD BE ABOUT 10 TO $12 MILLION. I GAVE YOU A SHEET. UH LAST MEETING THAT OUTLINED THE BENEFITS FINANCIALLY. OVERALL THE ONE TIME PAYMENTS TO THE CITY WILL BE ABOUT $2 MILLION. AND THE ANNUAL REVENUES TO THE CITY WILL BE OVER $400,000. ALSO THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT THE POOR CREEK PROJECT. UH, THIS APPLICATION AND THIS DEVELOPER WOULD BUILD THEIR PROJECT. UH HOPEFULLY FOR COMPLETION SOMETIME IN 2025. AND SO THAT WOULD TIME WELL WITH THE COMPLETION OF THE POOR CREEK PROJECT. AND ALSO MENTIONED THAT IN THE PROFFERS TO THE AMENDMENT. THERE'S A COMMITMENT OF OVER A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS WORTH OF MONEY TO OFFSET THE IMPACT OF THOSE ADDITIONAL 120 APARTMENTS ON THE POOR CREEK PROJECT. SO WITH THAT, MR MAYOR AND SUBMITTAL OF COMMENTS LAST TIME, UH, I HOPE IT'LL BE YOUR PLEASURE TO SUPPORT THE PROJECT AND MOVE US ON SO WE CAN WE CAN GET GET READY FOR THE PROJECT. I'M HAPPY. ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS, OKAY? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. AND ALSO, UM MR KIM PRETTY JUST WALKED IN ON THE PUBLIC HEARING RIGHT HERE. I DON'T KNOW. DID YOU EXPECT TO SPEAK ON THE HARRISON CREEK? MR PRITCHARD. I KNOW YOU JUST WALKED IN, OR NOT . YEAH, ALRIGHT. GO WATCH. ABOUT ALRIGHT WHEN THEY WON'T BLACK STREETS. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. SPREAD THE APPRECIATE IT. SO NOW THIS PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED. VICE MARY HILL MOVED THAT WE APPROVED THE ORDINANCE APPROVING THE MANY MEN TO PUT PROPERTIES PREVIOUSLY ADOPTED WITH THE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED. AH 1212 2020 25 12 50 FAIR HARRISON CREEK BOULEVARD. RIGHT. COUNSELOR.
MYERS SECOND EMOTION THE SECOND AT THIS TIME. I'M MADAM CLERK TO PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. COUNCIL MEMBER, CUTHBERT. MR MAYOR. I WOULD LIKE TO, UH INCORPORATE BY REFERENCE. THE LETTER DATED
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FEBRUARY 21 OF 2023 THAT I READ. AT OUR. MEETING ON FEBRUARY 21 2023. IF ANYONE WANTS TO SEE THAT LETTER UM, IT'S ON FILE WITH THE CLERK OF THE CIRCUIT COURT. SORRY THEY CITY COUNCIL.UM AND THE GIST OF IT IS THAT UH HUH. I HAVE NO CONFLICT. UNDER THE VIRGINIA. UH CONFLICT OF INTEREST LAWS. I EXPLAINED THAT IN THE LETTER AND GO ON TO SAY THAT UM. EVEN THOUGH I OWN A BILL OF UNDEVELOPED A LOT, I GUESS, AS THE CROW FLIES IS PROBABLY TWO MILES AWAY. UM I FEEL THAT I CAN VOTE ON THIS. A PROPOSAL OBJECTIVELY. FAIRLY. AND IN THE PUBLIC INTEREST. THAT SAID. IN ORDER TO, UH. AH! MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE KNOWS I'M. DEALING FAIRLY WITH THE PUBLIC INTEREST. AH I'M GOING TO ABSTAIN FROM THIS VOTE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER JONES. HOUSE MEMBER, SMITH LEE. I REMEMBER MYERS. COUNCIL MEMBER WESTBROOK. VICE MAYOR HILL. I PASSED MR MAYOR. POINT OF ORDER A WEEK COUNTING OF MR JONES VOTE OR NOT. UM RIGHT NOW. HE IS HE IS ON THE PHONE AND I DON'T AND I DON'T THINK THAT I THINK THE EMERGENCY ORDER IS OVER. SO HE BECAME TALLY HIS VOTE, BUT IT'S JUST ON. HE'S ONLY LISTENING. ALL RIGHT. OKAY? UNDERSTAND THAT WAS WHAT I THOUGHT THE LAW WAS, BUT I DIDN'T WANT US TO GET IN THE HABIT OF YOU KNOW, UH, VOTING BY TELEPHONE, AND THEN YOU KNOW ITS OWN FUTURE DATE. PEOPLE SAY WELL, YOU LET COUNCILMAN JONES VOTE ON MARCH THE EIGHTH ABOUT TELEPHONE, AND I JUST WANTED IT CLEAR WE'RE NOT ESTABLISHING A PRECEDENT THAT WE CAN VOTE BECAUSE WE CAN'T MAKE THAT LAW. IT'S STATE LAW, RIGHT? EXACTLY. OKAY. THANK YOU. UM MAYOR? YES, WE'VE HAD. COUNCIL MEMBERS TO HAVE BEEN SICK. OR COULDN'T YOU KNOW COULD NOT COME TO A MEETING? AND THEY HAVE BEEN IN THE ON THE CALL AND HAVE VOTED. SO WHAT'S WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE? ABOUT THEM. MR JONES VOTING VERSUS WE'VE DONE THIS BEFORE. MR WILLIAMS THEIR SPECIFIC STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS THAT APPLY TO REMOTE PARTICIPATION IN A MEETING AND WE HAVE NOT COMPLIED WITH THAT. WITH REGARD TO MR JONES HAS TO BE FOR SPECIFIC REASONS. THEY HAVE TO ANNOUNCE THEIR LOCATION . YOU HAVE TO HAVE ANNOUNCED IT IN ADVANCE THE MEETING THAT THAT HADN'T HAPPENED SO WE CAN'T COUNT AS VOTE, BUT HE CERTAINLY CAN PARTICIPATE. LISTENING IN ON THE MEETING AND MAKING HIS THOUGHTS KNOWN FOR THE RECORD.
[2b. A public hearing and consideration of an Ordinance authorizing the vacation of Right of Way along River Street between 3rd Street and 5th Street.]
THANK YOU. OKAY NEXT MOVE ONE I AM TO BE, WHICH IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION OF ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE VACATION RIGHT AWAY ALONG RIVER STREET BETWEEN THIRD STREET AND FIFTH STREET. RIGHT? WE ARE OPEN UP THE FLOOR FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING. ALL RIGHT NEXT TO SEE MR DAVE MCCORMICK IS HERE. SO YOU WANTED. SPEAK ON THIS VACATION RIGHT AWAY. YES. ALL RIGHT. GOOD AFTERNOON. GOOD AFTERNOON. REMEMBER THIS COUNCIL I'M DAVE MCCORMACK TO 45 EAST BANK STREET. UM AS YOU KNOW, WE ARE THE OWNERS OF WHAT WE CALL THE HARBOR SITE, WHICH IS, UH, RIGHT TO THE SOUTH OF THE HARBOR AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO THERE IS CREATING A PUBLIC GREEN SPACE AND WE THINK OF IT ARE PETERSBURG'S BROWNS ISLAND. SO WE'RE WE'VE HAD YOU KNOW, WE HAD THE FIREWORKS THERE LAST YEAR, WE HAD THE BEER FESTIVAL IN OCTOBER. WE WANT TO IMPROVE THAT SITE AND MAKE IT A REALLY GREAT , UM, SPACE FOR THE CITIZENS OF PETERSBURG THAT THE RIVER STREET RUNS TWO BLOCKS RIGHT THROUGH THAT, AND IT'S A BIT OF A ROAD TO NOWHERE. UM, IT JUST CONNECTS 3RD AND 5TH. BUT THERE'S NO REASON TO TAKE IT. THE TRAFFIC COUNTS ARE VERY LOW THERE. I'VE INVITED KARL ROVE HERE WITH GRUB . SLATER'S OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER WHO'S DONE STUDIES OF THAT. AH SITE AND SHOWS THAT JUST EXTREMELY LOW TRAFFIC COUNT, BUT ALSO IF THAT TRAFFIC THEN WAS[00:10:02]
PUT BACK ON THE BOWLING BROOK. HOW WHAT IMPACT THAT MIGHT HAVE, WHICH IS A VERY MINIMAL OUR GOAL IS TO HAVE IT'S KIND OF SQUARE THAT SITE UP AND MAKE IT, UM, A PLACE WHERE WE CAN HAVE CONCERTS AND EVENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT AND NOT HAVE THIS UH, VERY WIDE ROAD RUNNING THROUGH THAT PROPERTY. WE WANTED TO BE MORE GREEN AND MORE FUNCTIONAL AS AN EVENT SPACE. SO THAT'S THE GOAL VERY SIMPLY. BUT WE ALSO WANTED TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS WE HAD OVER THE LAB THAT WE HAD HEARD OVER THE LAST YEARS, WHICH WERE JUST YOU KNOW BASIC QUESTIONS ABOUT TRAFFIC AND ACCESS. UM KEY TO THE ACCESS. I THINK WE'VE WE'VE ADDRESSED THE TRAFFIC, PEACE AND CARL'S HERE TO TALK ABOUT THAT. BUT IN TERMS OF ACCESS, WE WANT TO MAKE IT REALLY CLEAR THAT WE'RE NOT, UH , WE HAVE NO INTENTION TO CUT OFF. ACCESS OVER TO POCAHONTAS ISLAND. EVERYONE CAN MAKE A LEFT ON THAT STREET AND DRIVE OVER. TO UH AND TAKE A LEFT AND GO THAT WAY. WE ALSO WANT TO KNOW EVERYONE TO KNOW THAT, UH, WHEN IT COMES TO E. M S AND FIRE WERE STILL GOING TO HAVE, UM CALLED THE SACKS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE TRACKS. SO ANY ANY TRAFFIC THAT NEEDS TO COME DOWN? THERE WERE CERTAINLY NEED TO LOAD THINGS FOR EVENTS, BUT IN TERMS OF E M S ACCESS UH, THOSE ROADS WILL REMAIN IN PLACE UP TO A COLD, A SACK ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE TRACKS. FOR TRUCKS OR AMBULANCE OR WHATEVER IT POLICE, ETCETERA. AND WE STILL WE STILL WANT TO HAVE A HARD PACKED SURFACE GOING THROUGH THAT SITE SO THAT ACCESS CAN BE HAD FROM, UH, ANY OF THOSE KIND OF VEHICLES THAT NEED TO GET AROUND THE SPACE. UM, THE HISTORICALLY , I'M NOT REALLY SURE WHAT THAT ROAD WAS INTENDED TO BE. I KNOW THERE'S A WHOLE GRID OF ALLEYS AND THINGS SHOWN AS, UH, THAT HISTORICALLY WERE DRAWN OR. UH ON THAT SITE, BUT THEY'VE ALL BEEN ABANDONED OVER THE YEARS.SO THIS IS THE LAST PIECE OF IT WHEN IT COMES TO THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S OUT THERE THAT EASEMENTS TO ACCESS THAT INFRASTRUCTURE HAVE ALREADY BEEN CONTEMPLATED AND BAKED INTO AH, THE AGREEMENT THAT WE HAVE A EASEMENT, SO THAT'S ALL BEEN ADDRESSED, AND THIS IS REALLY THE LAST PIECE OF THAT. SO THAT'S THE IDEA THE CONCEPT. UM WE REALLY WANT TO MAKE THIS A REALLY BEAUTIFUL PLACE FOR THE CITY AND A PLACE WHERE WE CAN ORGANIZE EVENTS AND HAVE THIS AS A REALLY NICE LONG TERM. ASSET FOR THE COMMUNITY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH NOW. ALRIGHT UM, SEEING NO OTHER HANDS AND THIS PUBLIC HEARING NEXT TIME WE'LL GO TO A COUNSELOR MYERS. YES, SIR. I MOVE. UM THAT WE AUTHORIZED VACATION OF THE RIGHT AWAY ALONG RIVER STREET BETWEEN THIRD STREET AND FIFTH.
THE. MOTION FOR VACATION RIGHT AWAY, DIES. ALRIGHT. OKAY? YES VICE MAYOR HILL. UM I THINK THE TREPIDATION IS WOULD MOST COUNCIL WE DON'T WANT TO CLOSE OFF OUR ROADS. I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE DOING. WE THINK THANK YOU FOR ALL OF DIFFERENT EVENTS THAT YOU'RE BRINGING, UH, WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE IN IF YOU HAVE EVENT AND WE JUST BLOCKED THE STREET OFF OF THAT EVENT YOU COME BACK TO THE MIC WAS, WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE? IF WE JUST YOU KNOW YOU YOU HAVE SOMETHING. LIKE ON A SATURDAY OR SOMETHING, AND WE BLOCK IT OFF. FOR THAT PARTICULAR EVENT. WHAT I MEAN IT'S STILL YOU KNOW. BECAUSE. I HAVE ME PERSONALLY HAVE ISSUE WITH CLOSING DOWN STREET, YOU KNOW FOR THAT, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY THE ROAD IS STILL GOING TO BE THERE. SO WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE OF? YOU KNOW YOU HAVE FIREWORKS OR WHATEVER, AND WE JUST SHUT IT DOWN FOR THOSE THREE OR FOUR HOURS. YOU KNOW WHAT WE CAN DO THAT? I MEAN, THAT'S BEEN DONE BEFORE AND IT AND IT IS NOT GOING TO BE THE END OF THE WORLD TO DO THAT. MAKE NO BONES ABOUT THAT I WOULD WHAT REALLY TRYING TO DO IS A BEAUTIFICATION. UH EFFORT HERE. WE WANT TO IRRIGATE THE PROPERTY AND REALLY CREATE A REALLY BEAUTIFUL AESTHETIC OUTCOME DOWN HERE. THAT ROAD GOING THROUGH THERE. IT UM, ONE OF THE BIGGEST PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE IS JUST BY GRANTING ACCESS TO PEOPLE. THEY THERE IS A MASSIVE DUMPING PROBLEM BACK THERE RIGHT NOW. SO ANYBODY IN THE NIGHT AND JUST
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DRIVE UP AND DRIVE RIGHT ONTO THAT PROPERTY AND DUMP ALL OF THEIR TRACKS AND MATTRESSES. WE JUST SPENT $50,000 DOWN THERE ACTUALLY MORE WE HAD WE HAD A GRANT FROM THE U Q TWO TO CLEAN UP A LOT OF THAT AREA, AND WE'VE SPENT THAT MONEY AND DONE THAT. BUT IT CONTINUES TO BE A PROBLEM AND JUST BY HAVING THIS IS JUST ONE OF MANY, BUT BY PROVIDING ACCESS TO PEOPLE THAT DRIVE THEIR CREATES UH ON SUPERVISED SITUATION AND I WE HAVE ALL SORTS OF PROBLEMS WITH THAT. UM JUST BY THERE BEING VIRTUE OF A ROAD THERE. UM IN TERMS OF BEAUTIFICATION, AND WE REALLY WANT TO SQUARE THAT UP AND CREATE A REALLY NICE GREEN SPACE ACROSS THE WHOLE. PROPERTY. I THINK, UM. YOU KNOW WHEN I THINK ABOUT HOW BROWNS ISLAND WAS DEVELOPED, AND I THINK ABOUT THE WORK THAT VENTURE, RICHMOND AND JACK BERRY HAS JOOB THEY KNOW WAS INVOLVED THERE THAT THERE WAS A MULTISTAGE PROCESS MUCH LIKE WE'RE IN DOING NOW OR IT TOOK TIME AND EFFORT AND CONSOLIDATION OF A LOT OF, UH THINGS TO HAPPEN TO GET THAT OUTCOME, AND NOW IT'S A HUGE HUGE ASSET BOOM TO THE CITY. I THINK WITH THAT ROAD GOING THROUGH THERE, IT JUST CLIPS OUR WINGS A LITTLE BIT. DOESN'T ALLOW US TO HAVE A REALLY GREAT OUTCOME. THEY'RE A GREAT TRIP HAZARDS CREATES OPPORTUNITY. LIKE I SAID, FOR DUMPING, AND IT JUST, YOU KNOW, JUST KIND OF LIMITS THE AESTHETIC OUTCOME THAT WE REALLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE AND ON THE FLIP SIDE DOESN'T REALLY SEEM TO PROVIDE UH HUH. A REAL BENEFIT IN TERMS OF CIRCULATION. UM IT'S REALLY NOT THAT IT'S A VERY A ROAD THAT'S USED VERY LITTLE. THAT DOESN'T REALLY GO ANYWHERE. AND, UH, FLOODS A LOT. AND REALLY CREATES A MAINTENANCE ISSUE FOR THE CITY. SO I'M I'M AS SOMEONE WHO'S WORKED ON THIS PROJECT FOR AS LONG AS I HAVE. I HAVE A HARD TIME SEEING WHY THAT ROAD SHOULD EVEN BE THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE. AND WHY. IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO JUST KIND OF CLEAN THAT AREA UP AND CREATE A DIFFERENT LOOK AND FEEL THEIR AND HOPEFULLY I ONE DAY I HOPE THAT IT DOES ALSO CATALYZED A PROJECT IN THE WATERWAY ITSELF, IN SOME FORM OF DREDGING OR WHATEVER, BUT I THINK WE THINK LONG TERM ABOUT THE BEAUTIFICATION OF THAT ENTIRE AREA. WHAT IT MIGHT MEAN FOR OLD ROPER SITE, ETCETERA. I THINK THIS COULD BE A REALLY GREAT SEED. WE ARE PLANTING, BUT THAT ROAD THERE IT REALLY JUST JUST, YOU KNOW, KIND OF CLIPS OUR WINGS IN TERMS OF THE BIG IDEA THAT OKAY, SO I'LL SHARE JUST JUST HEARING SOME OF THE SITUATIONS THAT YOU JUST SAID.WE'LL GET OUR POLICE. POLICE THAT AREA A LITTLE BIT BETTER IF IT'S NOT HASN'T BEEN ALONG WITH PUBLIC WORKS WERE GETTING ME TAKE A LOOK AT MAYBE, MAYBE SURE, COMING THROUGH THERE ON A BI WEEKLY OR MONTHLY BASIS, MAKE SURE THAT THE DEBRIS IS UP THINGS OF THAT NATURE, BUT RIGHT NOW, IN GOOD CONSCIENCE, I CAN'T YOU KNOW VOTE TOO. UM TO CLOSE IT DOWN RIGHT NOW, UH, NOT SAYING THAT WE CAN'T COME BACK TO IT. BUT THAT'S JUST ME. ONE OF SEVEN BUT I CAN'T SUPPORT THAT RIGHT NOW. BUT I APPRECIATE YOU. I DO? I DO. I JUST WANT TO KNOW THE ADVANTAGES AND DISADVANTAGES. YOU'VE ALREADY SAID IT. BUT YOU KNOW, IT IS A FAIR WEAR THAT, YOU KNOW. IF POLICE OR WHOMEVER HAVE TO GET BACK TO OUR FIRE. YOU HAVE TO GET BACK THERE. AND THEN WHEN WE HAVE, UM THEY RUN AND WHAT HAVE YOU PEOPLE THEY PARK AND THEN THEY USE THAT AS AN OUTLET. IT IS. IT'S ALMOST LIKE WHEN THINGS GET BOTTLENECK IN ONE AREA THERE SHOOT THROUGH THEIR SOMETIMES SO I DO SEE THE ADVANTAGES OF STILL HAVING THAT ROLE RIGHT THERE. THAT'S THAT'S THE AND I APPRECIATE THAT, DARREN WHAT WOULDN'T WANNA THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WE WANTED TO ENGAGE WITH THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER TO TALK ABOUT THOSE BOTTLENECKS IS EVEN EVEN IN A VERY WELL ATTENDED EVENT. LIKE THE FIREWORKS THAT WE HAD. IT WAS VERY EASY TO SEE HOW WHAT OTHER ACCESS POINTS THERE WERE ABOUT GETTING OUT CONTROLLING THAT TRAFFIC AND IT REALLY WORKED OUT EVEN MORE SURPRISINGLY WELL THAN I EXPECTED IT TO SO UM I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
IF THERE'S SOMETHING REALLY SPECIFICALLY SPECIFIC THAT WE CAN ADDRESS WITH REGARD TO THAT KIND OF THING. I'D CERTAINLY LIKE TO KNOW ABOUT IT OR WHAT HESITATION ANYBODY. HAS ABOUT. I MEAN, WE TALKED LAST TIME ABOUT E. M S AND FIRE AND, UH, YOU KNOW THIS HAPPENS IN SO MANY OTHER LOCALITIES WHERE THEY HAVE NICE BIG GREEN SPACES AND STILL HAVE THE ABILITY TO CIRCULATE THROUGH THERE WITH THE M S. SO I FEEL AS A CITIZEN NOT JUST DEVELOPED THIS PROPERTY THAT WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT TOO. SO IF THERE'S SOMETHING SPECIFIC THAT I CAN ADDRESS FOR ANYBODY, I WOULD LOVE TO DO THAT. WE, YOU KNOW. WELL ALL I'M PRETTY SURE WE'LL BE WILLING TO WHEN YOU HAVE YOUR EVENTS TO CLOSE IT OFF YOUR STANDPOINT AND THEN AS FAR AS PUBLIC WORKS, MAKING SURE
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THAT IT'S CLEAN THAT PEOPLE INDIVIDUALS WON'T BE THROWING MATTRESSES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.AND WE HAVE OUR BELIEVE POLICE CHIEF IS RIGHT HERE IN THE CORNER, SO I'M PRETTY SURE HE'S HEARD YOUR CRIES AS WELL AS FAR AS THE YOU KNOW, PEOPLE, LITERALLY THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
RIGHT NOW. I THINK THAT'S THE BEST THAT WE CAN DO BECAUSE I THINK MOST OF COUNCIL WERE KIND OF SERGEANT, AND WE DON'T WANT TO, YOU KNOW, CLOSE IT DOWN RIGHT NOW. OKAY OKAY. WELL THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS AND APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY. THE MICE. I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOUR TREPIDATION IS. WHETHER IT'S. CLOSE IT ON FOR WHAT? WHEN THEY'RE TOO CAUSE THAT GO DOWN THEIR DAY. WHAT'S THE WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE AND YOU'RE SAFE TO BE VEHICLES CAN RIDE OVER IT. AND THEY CAN ACCESS ANYTHING THAT YOU ACCESS . YOU GOT TO DIG DOWN TO IT, REGARDLESS OF WHAT HE PUTS THEIR WHETHER IT'S A PERMANENT BASIS OR NOT. IN HIS CREATING A GREEN SPACE IN THE AREA DOWNTOWN, WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO ATTRACT TOURISTS, AND EVERYBODY HAD COME HERE TO ENJOY DOWNTOWN, SO I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOUR TREPIDATION IS WITH RESPECT TO THAT PARTICULAR STREET. VICE MAYOR HILL. PERSONALLY, I WANT TO SEE US POLICE. IT AND CLEAN IT UP, BECAUSE HE YOU KNOW, AND THEN HIS EVENTS WERE STILL GO ON. REGARDLESS UH MAYBE WE CAN ALWAYS CONE IT OFF AND BLOCK IT OFF, SO I DON'T I THINK IT'S STILL A WIN. WIN HERE. STILL BARELY USED THE SPACE. YOU KNOW, WHENEVER HE HAVE EVENTS, AND THAT WILL STILL HAVE ACCESS THROUGH IT. I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU SAY IS ONLY LIMITED CARS IS GOING THROUGH THERE, BUT STILL, IT'S STILL IS A STREET. AH PUBLIC CITY STREET. THEY GO THROUGH THERE, AND I'VE BEEN THERE THROUGH THERE BEFORE. WHEN WE'VE HAD BIG EVENTS. I SEE CARS CUTTING DOWN THERE JUST TO GET AWAY FROM ALL THE TRAFFIC AND WHAT HAVE YOU SO IT'S STILL VITAL, ALTHOUGH IT MAY ONLY BE USED, YOU KNOW, FOUR TIMES A YEAR IN THE BIG SIGNIFICANT WAY , BUT IT'S STILL USE THAT I THINK THAT WE STILL CAN USE NOW. IF WE COME BACK AND YOU KNOW. A YEAR FROM NOW OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE, AND THINGS HAVEN'T CHANGED. TRASH IS STILL DOWN THERE, AND THINGS LIKE THAT WILL BE CONSIDERED TO LOOK AT IT AGAIN. BUT RIGHT NOW I'M NOT ME PERSONALLY. I'M NOT COMFORTABLE WHAT? GRANTED IT RIGHT NOW. THAT'S JUST ME. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU FOR THIS GOOD.
THE DISCUSSION SO THAT WE'LL KEEP THE CONVERSATION GOING. THANK YOU, MR MCCORMICK. FOR ALL YOU DO FOR THE CITY OF PETERSBURG, AND WE STILL LOOK FORWARD TO BEING A GOOD PARTNER
[3a. Consideration of a resolution for Congressional Directed Spending for FY24 Grant Application.]
WITH YOU AND PULLING THOSE EVENTS OFF UM NEXT MOVE ON TO ITEM THREE, WHICH IS DISCUSSION AND CONSIDERATION OF A RESOLUTION FOR CONGRESSIONAL DIRECTED SPENDING FOR FY 24 GRANT APPLICATION. UM THAT IS MISS JOANNE WILLIAMS. GOOD AFTERNOON. GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR VICE MAYOR COUNCIL. THIS WAR. THIS IS BASICALLY FOR EARMARKED GRANTS TO CONGRESS. WE WERE SUCCESSFUL LAST YEAR AND RECEIVING BOTH GRANTS, AND WE APPLIED FOR THESE ARE FOR POOR CREEK. THE REASON WE HAVE TO HAVE A RESOLUTION WE HAVE TO COMMIT IF NEEDED UP TO A 20% MATCH. UM. ALWAYS I KNOW ON ONE I'M WORKING NOW. I'M ASKING FOR A WAIVER. BUT WE DON'T KNOW THERE WILL BE A WAIVER, SO THAT'S THE COMMITMENT NEEDED. OKAY? THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN SMITH LEE ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION FOR THE CONGRESSIONAL DIRECTED SPENDING FOR 24 GRAND APPLICATION. SO MOVE ALL RIGHT. VICE MAYOR HILL. RIGHT. ANY DISCUSSION. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. AT THIS TIME, MADAM CLERK, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROAD? COUNCIL MEMBER, CUTHBERT.REMEMBER JONES. REMEMBER SMITH LEE BY COUNCIL MEMBER MYERS. COUNCIL MEMBER WESTBROOK, VICE MARY HILL. MAYOR PERN I PASSED ALRIGHT. THE NEXT ITEM IS ITEM FOUR GERMANY. ALRIGHT THIS MEANS THE GENERAL THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. HAVE A GOOD AFTERNOON. YEAH.
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