Mar 21, 2023 Regular City Council Meeting

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SPECIAL CLOSED SESSION MEETING IS ADJOURNED. NEXT WILL MOVE ON TO OUR REGULAR SCHEDULE. CITY

[1. Roll Call]

[4. Determination of the Presence of a Quorum]

[5. Proclamations/Recognitions/Presentation of Ceremonial Proclamations]

YEAH. NEXT IS ITEM FIVE B. A PROCLAMATION DESIGNATING MARCH 2023 AS AMERICAN RED CROSS MONTH. WHEREAS DURING AMERICAN RED CROSS MONTH IN MARCH, WE CELEBRATE THE HUMANITARIAN SPIRIT OF THE CITY OF PETERSBURG AND REAFFIRM MY COMMITMENT TO HELP ENSURE NO ONE FACES A CRISIS ALONE. AND WHEREAS CARING FOR ONE ANOTHER IS THAT THE HEART OF OUR COMMUNITY, AND IT'S SIMPLIFIED BY THE PEOPLE OF THE CITY OF PETERSBURG, WHO SIMPLY ACTS OF KINDNESS THROUGHOUT THE RED CROSS, PROVIDE HELP AND HOPE IN PEOPLE'S MOST DIFFICULT MOMENTS. CONTINUING THE LIFESAVING LEGACY OF CLARA BARTON, WHO FOUNDED THE ORGANIZATION MORE THAN 140 YEARS AGO TO PREVENT AND ALLEVIATE HUMAN SUFFERING. AND WHEREAS EVERY DAY THESE ORDINARY

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ACCIDENT VICTIMS AND PEOPLE WITH SICKLE CELL DISEASE. AND OTHER LIFE THREATENING CONDITIONS SUPPORTING MILITARY MEMBERS AND VETERANS ALONG WITH THEIR FAMILIES AND CAREGIVERS. THROUGH THE UNIQUE CHALLENGES OF SERVICE USING VITAL SKILLS LIKE FIRST AID AND CPR. TO HELP OTHERS SURVIVED MEDICAL EMERGENCIES OR DELIVERING INTERNATIONAL HUMANITARIAN AID AND RECONNECTING LOVED ONES SEPARATED BY CRISIS AROUND THE WORLD. AND WHEREAS THEIR SUPPORT VOLUNTEERISM AND GENEROUS DONATIONS ARE CRITICAL TO OUR COMMUNITY'S RESILIENCE, WE HEREBY RECOGNIZE THE MONTH OF MARCH IN HONOR OF ALL THOSE WHO FULFILL CLARA BARTON'S NOBLE WORDS. YOU MUST NEVER THINK OF ANYTHING EXCEPT THE NEED AND HOW TO MEET IT. AND ASK EVERYONE TO JOIN IN THIS COMMITMENT NOW, THEREFORE, I MARRIED SAMUEL PARENT BY THE VIRTUE OF THE AUTHORITY, VESTED IN ME BY THE CITY OF PETERSBURG DO HEREBY PROCLAIM THE MONTH OF MARCH 2023 AS AMERICAN RED CROSS MONTH IN THE CITY OF PETERSBURG AND URGE ALL CITIZENS TO REACH OUT AND SUPPORT IS HUMANITARIAN MISSION. ALRIGHT MISS CHRISTIE. CARNEAL, ARE YOU HERE? ALRIGHT, GRANDMAMA ACROSS STATES.

[6. Responses to Previous Public Information Posted]

[7. Approval of Consent Agenda (to include minutes of previous meetings):]

THANK YOU AT THIS TIME, ADAM CLARK, YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. COUNCIL MEMBER CUTHBERT COUNCIL MEMBER JONES SMITH LEE. I REMEMBER MYERS REMEMBER, WESTBROOK WRITES MERRY HILL.

[8. Official Public Hearings]

UM, DO WE HAVE THE SLIDES HERE? BEN BERRIES. OKAY? COVER SLIDE. OUR INTRODUCTION. THAT PIECE.

THIS MORNING. IT WAS BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION THAT UNDER ARTICLE 25 SECTION THREE OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE, THERE IS A CONCERN. OF THE LOT SIZE FOR BUILDING THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY. AND

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SEEING NO HANDS. THIS PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSE AND NEXT, MR MOORE, YOU SAID YOUR ENTERTAINER. UM YOU'D LIKE TO TABLE THIS TILL WHAT MEETING? IS IT? THE SECOND MEETING IN APRIL.

YES, SIR. ALL RIGHT. ALRIGHT QUESTION. COUNCILMAN JONES. HOW YOU DOING, MR MOORE? GOOD EVENING, SIR. WHAT ISSUES THAT YOU COME. YOU CAME ACROSS ON BUILDING ON HIS LIFE. YES, SIR.

UNDER THE ARTICLE, THERE'S A CONCERN ABOUT THE LOT WITH BUT ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WAS BROUGHT UP IN STATES. AND NOW THIS IS QUOTE OUT OF 3.6 LOT AREA. HOWEVER THIS SECTION WILL NOT APPLY IF THE LIGHT OR OTHER LOTS OF QUESTIONS WHERE CONTIGUOUS TO ANOTHER LOT, OR LOTS OF RECORD OWNED BY THE SAME PERSON. AT THE TIME, THE MORE RESTRICTIVE REGULATIONS BECAME ENFORCE. WHAT IT IS HE'S BIDDING ON THIS ONE PROPERTY. THE CONCERN IS THE HOUSE WON'T FIT ON IT WITH ITS CURRENT DIMENSIONS. BUT IF HE OWNS THE OTHER LOTS, WHICH ARE CITY OWNED. IT WOULD SO WE'D HAVE TO GIVE CONSIDERATION, POSSIBLY SELLING THOSE LOTS TO HIM TO MAKE THAT UP. SO A LOT IS THAT A FACT? EVEN IF YOU WERE TO BUILD VERTICAL, LIKE MOST OF THE NEW STRUCTURES ARE GOING DOWN. YES, SIR. MR JONES. SO CURRENTLY. IF THE CITY DID NOT OWN THE ADJACENT LAW. WE COULD SELL THIS TO HIM AND HE IT'S A NONCONFORMING LOT OF RECORD AND HE COULD BUILD AS LONG AS HE MET SETBACK REQUIREMENTS, BUT BECAUSE WE OWN THE ADJOINING LOTS, THERE'S A AN OBLIGATION TO MAKE THE LOT CONFORM TO THE ZONING REQUIREMENTS TO MAKE IT A CONFORMING LOT. SO IT'S THE WIDTH AND EVERYTHING IS CORRECT. SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE ASKING TO TABLE AT THIS EVENING SO WE CAN HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH MR STEED ABOUT BUYING THOSE OTHER LOTS TO ME. IT MAKES THE LOT CONFORMED TO THE ZONE. DORN. IT'S SO THAT'S WHY THERE'S A SNEAKY GOING BY THOSE OTHER LIGHTS. MEMBERS OF COUNCIL MAYOR VICE MAYOR. MY CONCERN IS STILL A PROJECT RIGHT RETURN ON INVESTMENT. BY GIVING A EXTRA LARGE LIGHT. THAT'S GREAT FOR THE BUYER. HEY, IT'S GREAT FOR YOU GUYS. I WANT TO BRING TAX MONEY TO THE CITY. I WOULD HAVE PARTNERED WITH YOU GUYS. BUT WHAT AM I GONNA GET IN RETURN? THAT'S SOMETHING I HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND RIGHT? SOFT COST DEVELOPMENT. EVERYTHING HAS TO BE CONSIDERED. AN APPRAISAL IS NOT GONNA GIVE ME EXTRA MONEY FOR MULTIPLE LOTS. IT'S GREAT FOR THE BUYER TO HAVE A VERY LARGE LOT. THEY WILL LOVE IT. BUT AS AN INVESTOR SLASH YOU KNOW, BUILDING THIS POINT. I DON'T SEE THE RETURN OFF ESTIMATED BALLOT LOTS. NEXT THING IS I'M ASSUMING I WOULD HAVE TO BID ON THESE LIGHTS. RIGHT. SO I GUESS THE ULTIMATE QUESTION AT THIS POINT. IF I DIDN'T WIN THE BIDS. THAT'S ONE THING AND THEN HOW MANY LOTS WHAT HAPPENS IS THE PROJECT BUSTED. THAT POINT DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? YEAH, BECAUSE WHAT MADE YOU PICK THAT PARTICULAR LOT IN THE FIRST PLACE? DID YOU HAVE THIS INFORMATION BEFORE YOU CHOSE THAT LOT? OR DO YOU JUST FIND THIS STUFF OUT? WELL I'VE ASKED MULTIPLE QUESTIONS SINCE THE VERY BEGINNING IN OCTOBER.

I'M A REAL ESTATE BROKER SOMETHING I'M IN THE BUSINESS. I WORK WITH CONTRACTORS, BUILDERS, ETCETERA. BUT IT'S B THREE. SO YOU KNOW, IN MOST CASES BE THREE RESIDENTIAL IS ALLOWED ALSO. AND I DID PRESENT THE CONCERNS. HEY YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. FOR SETBACKS, ROAD FRONTAGE, ETCETERA. I'M JUST FINDING OUT TODAY THAT WE NEED 50. EVEN IF I BUY THE ADDITIONAL LIGHT BEHIND IT. THAT'S NOT GONNA MAKE THE ROAD FURNISH ANY WIDER FROM 40 TO 50, RIGHT. IF ANYTHING, I GUESS THE LIGHT NEXT DOOR. COMBINE THAT YOU LOTS WE CAN GET 50. PLUS, IF THAT'S POSSIBLE, RIGHT? I MEAN, THE MORE QUESTIONS. ALRIGHT AND I'M AT THIS TIME ENTERTAINING MOTION TO TABLE UM VICE MAYOR HILL MOVED COUNCILOR MYERS. ALL RIGHT, MADAM CLERK, CAN YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? REMEMBER CUTHBERT? COUNCIL MEMBER JONES COUNCIL MEMBER SMITH LEE HIGH COUNCIL MEMBER MYERS COUNCIL MEMBER WESTBROOK. VICE MAYOR HILL PERN BY PAST THE TABLE,

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GOOD HAPPEN AFTERNOON.

AT THIS TIME HE WAS HE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING OPEN. SO HE'S NOT GONNA PROVIDE A STATEMENT PRIOR TO OPEN ALRIGHTY. WE'LL OPEN THE FLOOR NOW FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR CONSIDERATION OF THE ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER EXECUTE A PURCHASE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF PETERSBURG AND 123 HALIFAX LLC TOWARDS THE SELLER CITY ON PROPERTY AT 1 23.

HALIFAX STREET, MR GREEN. GOOD EVENING, MR MAYOR, METAL COUNCIL. GOOD EVENING CURIOSITY.

WHERE IS 1? 23 HALIFAX STREET. WHAT IS IT LOCATE, LOCATED. AKIN . TO ALRIGHT, MR MOORE, YOU WIN.

MYSTICAL AREA. OVER HERE. CAN YOU PULL UP THE PRESENTATION, PLEASE. UM GARY. WE HAVE. WOULD YOU ASKING FOR THE. I THINK THIS IS IT. THIS IS CORRECT. THIS WINTER. DO DO WE KNOW WHERE THIS IS? THIS IS LOCATED EXACTLY, UM , NEAR HALIFAX STREET IS LONG STREET. WE ARE. OKAY? IS THAT THE AVENUE? YES. OH, NO. OH, NO. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. YOU KNOW ABOUT THE AVENUE IN PETERSBURG.

WORKERS AND FUNERAL HOME LAND ADJACENT TO IT. THE AVENUE WHERE MEMBERS OF THE VARIOUS COMMUNITY FARMERS CAME AND SOLD THEIR WARES. WHERE A CAB DRIVERS THAT WILL FEATURE SITE AND PETERSBURG , PARTICULARLY FOR SOLDIERS FROM FORT LEE AND THE ENTERTAINMENT FOR AFRICAN AMERICAN. THAT'S WHERE THE REALITY WAS LOCATED. THAT'S WHERE THE CHATTERBOX IS LOCATED, AND YOU WANT TO PUT A SHOPPING SHIPPING CONTAINER THERE. IT'S HISTORIC. THERE IS A INSTITUTION HERE IN PETERSBURG.

THAT HAS. ASK ME. TO DO THE DUE DILIGENCE. BECAUSE THEY WANT THE RECOGNITION FOR THE HISTORIC SITE, AND WE'RE TALKING TO THE VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF HISTORIC RESOURCES ON THAT SIDE AS WELL.

ALL RIGHT. AND AT THIS PARTICULAR POINT IN TIME, WOULD NOT WANT TO CALL THE NAME OF THE FOUNDATION. BUT YOU GUYS CAN SURMISE. WE'RE NOT APPROVE OF PUTTING A SHIPPING CONTAINER.

THEY'RE ON THAT HISTORIC SITE IN THE AFRO AMERICAN COMMUNITY. WHERE DOCTORS LAWYERS. SHOPS DRUGSTORES ALWAYS LOCATED. LET'S NOT DECIMATE. THAT SIDE BY DOING WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED. THANK

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GOOD AFTERNOON. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS HELEN STOKES. AND UH , I AGREE WITH THE GENTLEMAN WHO JUST SPOKE. STOKES. CAN I HAVE YOUR ADDRESS, PLEASE? UM 6100. DOING IS STRIVE. NORTH CHESTERFIELD, VIRGINIA. I AM. I WAS RAISED IN SPURRING. YEAH MR. STOKES WE HAVE TO HAVE A PETERS BERRY RESIDENT TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK AT THE MEETING AGENDA. YES. COME UP YET. REQUIRING THAT UM. RIGHT UM, WE AT THIS POINT IN TIME YOU CAN YOU OKAY? ALL RIGHT. MR WILLIAMS POINT OF ORDER, MR WILLIAMS. THAT'S CORRECT. THE. THAT THE RESIDENCY APPLIES TO THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD WITH PUBLIC HEARING IS OPEN TO ANY CITIZEN WITH AN INTEREST. OKAY, THANK YOU.

PLEASE PROCEED. MR STOKES, OKAY? UH I WASN'T BORN IN PETERSBURG RAISED IN PERIODS. BERG INTENDED ALL THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS IN PETERSBURG AND WORKED IN PETERSBURG. AND I AGREE WITH THE GENTLEMAN THAT AREA THE AVENUE. IT'S A HISTORIC SITE. AND WE DON'T NEED ANYTHING THERE, TOO.

THAT'S A GREAT HISTORICAL SITE. AND THE CITY COUNCIL THE SECURITY TOGETHER AND DECIDE WHAT WE CAN DO TO MAINTAIN THAT PROPERTY WHAT IT IS. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. MR MOORE.

THANK YOU, MR MAYOR. MEMBERS OF COUNCIL COMING ON THE CONTAINER. THE AREA'S HISTORIC, UM. WE HAVE REALLY NO PROVISION TO PREVENT CONTAINER BECAUSE OF THE B THREE. IT DOESN'T HAVE LOCAL HISTORIC DESIGNATION. I DID TALK WITH THE APPLICANT AND HE IS WILLING TO MITIGATE. MAYBE COME UP WITH A DIFFERENT SOLUTION. SO THIS TIME IF YOU'D BE WILLING TO TABLE THIS SO THAT WE CAN WORK WITH THE APPLICANT TO COME UP WITH A BETTER STRUCTURE, WE CAN BRING THAT BACK AT THE NEXT BUSINESS MEETING FOR COUNCIL. UM VICE MAYOR HILL. MR MAYOR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL CITIZENS THAT MOVED THAT WE TABLE THIS INTO OUR APRIL 18TH MEETING. MR MAYOR BEFORE TAKING THAT MOTION. COULD YOU CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? ALRIGHT THERE'S PUBLIC HEARING. SEE YOU KNOW, I'M OTHER HANDS THIS PUBLIC HEARING HIS CLOTHES. TO RESTATE MY EMOTION, MR. THAT WE, UH TABLE THIS TO OUR APRIL 18TH MEETING. WAS THE TABLE COUNCILOR MYERS MOTION IN A SECOND. FIRST DISCUSSION COUNCIL COVER LIKE TO MAKE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION THAT WE DENY THIS, UH IF HE'S COMING BACK WITH A DIFFERENT PROPOSAL, IT NEEDS TO BE ADVERTISED. UH, AND WE HAVE TO HAVE ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING.

IT SEEMS TO ME WE CAN'T LET A PUBLIC HEARING ON PROJECT A AH, SERVE THE PURPOSE OF A PUBLIC HEARING FOR PROJECT BE UM SO, UM , I THINK WE OUGHT TO DENY THIS . UM AND SO I MOVE THAT WE DENY , UH, THE REQUEST TO PURCHASE 1 23 HALIFAX STREET. ON THE TERMS PROPOSED FOR THE REASONS STATED BY MR GREEN AND MR STOKES. UM MR MAYOR. THANK YOU. RIGHT COUNCILMAN JONES I SECOND THAT MOTION. RIGHT AT THIS TIME. MADAME CLARK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. 1000 RECOVERED. COUNCIL MEMBER JONES. I COUNCIL MEMBER SMITH LI. I COUNCIL MEMBER MYERS COUNCIL MEMBER WESTBROOK. VICE MAYOR HILL. THEY'RE PERM I MOTION IS PASSED TO DENY. ALRIGHT, WELL CIRCLE BACK TO COUNCILMAN JONES. I JUST WANT TO ADD AGAIN. WE ALL KNOW THAT'S HISTORIC, AND, UH, I DON'T SEE HIM. SHIPPING CONTAINERS ANYWHERE IN THE CITY USED FOR B THREE OR ANYTHING ELSE. UM NUMBER ONE NUMBER TWO. AS IMPORTANT AS THAT PROPERTY IS WE STILL SELLING STUFF FOR CHEAP?

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YES AND THAT'S GREAT. ONE LAST THING, UM WE CANNOT OPERATE ON FACTS. IF THE PRESENTATION IS MESSED UP. I'VE SEEN THE SAME PICTURE FOR TWO DIFFERENT SALES. WE CAN'T COME UP HERE WITH THAT . THOSE MINOR MISTAKES RIGHT? THEY'RE ACTUALLY MAJOR. IT WAS THE SAME PICTURE. FROM THE LAST SALE. AND IT'S THE SAME PICTURE FROM THIS SALE. THAT'S WHAT NOBODY KNEW WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT. YES, SIR. THE SAME PICTURE. WE GOT TO DO BETTER THAN THAT. I OPERATE ON FACTS.

WE OPERATE ON FACTS. THAT MESSED ME UP RIGHT THERE. I'M LIKE WHAT? THAT'S THE SAME PICTURE.

GOTTA DO BETTER. WE PAYING A LOT OF MONEY SALARIES. Y'ALL SEEN IT? WE CAN DO BETTER THAN PUTTING THE SAME PICTURE UP TWICE. THANK YOU. MR MAYOR. COUNCILOR COVER LIKE TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT. I AGREE. 100% I'M LOOKING AT PAGE 62 OF OUR AGENDA. AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE LOT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. AND YET WE GOT A PICTURE OF IT THERE. AH WE REALLY NEED STAFF TO STEP UP ITS GAME AND GIVE US ACCURATE INFORMATION. UM AND MR ALMOND. I'M GOING TO DIRECT THIS COMMENT TO YOU IF I MAY. SO I THINK WE REALLY NEED THE ADMINISTRATION TO SERVE AS A GATEKEEPER. UH TO WHAT COMES BEFORE COUNCIL THE IDEA THAT UH , THE CITY STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND THAT CITY COUNCIL APPROVE PUT IN A SHIPPING CONTAINER. FACING THE HISTORIC HALIFAX TRIANGLE. JUST . STUNS ME. I CAN'T SEE HOW THAT COULD POSSIBLY BE RECOMMENDED BY A KNOWING STAFF THAT WE ARE PAYING BIG BUCKS TO UH AND SO I WOULD ASK YOU, MR ALTMAN. TO UM , ENCOURAGE STAFF TO, UM, SERVE MORE AS A GATEKEEPER. OR MAYBE YOU NEED TO STEP FORWARD AS A GATEKEEPER. BUT THIS SHOULD NEVER HAVE GOTTEN BEFORE CITY COUNCIL. NOW UH, LET ME KEEP IN MIND THAT THIS IS THE THIS HISTORIC TRIANGLE I BELIEVE IS PART OF THE SUBJECT OF THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN. IS THAT RIGHT, MR ALMOND? I BELIEVE THAT PART OF THE PLANE DOES CROSS OVER TO THE HALIFAX, RIGHT? YOU KNOW, MR VAN BOYS WOULD DO YOU HAVE AN IMAGE THAT WAS SENT TO YOU IN CONNECTION WITH THIS AGENDA. ITEM EIGHT B. IT WAS A THREE OR FOUR STORY, UM ARTIST'S RENDERING OF WHAT COULD BE.

YOU KNOW, I CAME ACROSS THIS PICTURE, AND THIS IS CERTAINLY ONE IDEA OF WHAT THE AREA FACING THE TRIANGLE COULD LOOK LIKE IT WOULD ABSOLUTELY REVOLUTIONIZE. OUR APPRECIATION OF THE HISTORIC TRIANGLE. WE LEAVE THAT THIS IS 11 APPROACH. UM YOU KNOW, I HAVEN'T DISCUSSED IT WITH ANY MEMBERS OF COUNCIL AND OBVIOUSLY THE IDEA WOULD HAVE TO BE VETTED AND REFINED AND PERHAPS DISCARDED. AH BUT CAN YOU IMAGINE WHAT THE TRIANGLE WOULD LOOK LIKE IF IT HAD BEAUTIFUL MODERN CONSTRUCTION FACING THE TRIANGLE AND THE TRIANGLE WAS GREEN SPACE. I MEAN, CERTAINLY

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UM, UM MR VAN BALL. HE'S THANK YOU, MR MAYOR. ALRIGHT. NEXT MOVE ON THE ITEM EIGHT C, WHICH IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION OR ORDINANCE AMENDING THE CITY OF PETERSBURG CODE. CORNICES APPENDIX B ZONING TO ADD DEFINITIONS OF GROUP HOMES AND ASSISTED LIVING FACILITIES, MR TABLE. HONORABLE MAYOR, VICE MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL. THIS IS AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND THE CITY CODE APPENDIX B ZONING TO ADD DEFINITIONS OF GROUP HOME AND ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 22. THANKS. I'M SORRY. UM CURRENTLY IN THE CITY . THERE ARE SEVEN ASSISTED LIVING FACILITIES AND 41. GROUP HOMES, OKAY, AND THIS IS A MAP THAT ILLUSTRATES THE LOCATION OF ASSISTED LIVING FACILITIES AND RESIDENTIAL GROUP HOMES THROUGHOUT THE CITY. SO, UM, ASSISTED LIVING FACILITIES AND GROUP HOMES HAVE BEEN ESTABLISHED AS LAND USES IN THE CITY OF PETERSBURG FOR SOME TIME , HOWEVER, CURRENTLY THERE ARE NO DEFINITIONS FOR THESE USES OR RELATED REGULATIONS. UH, THIS IS A PROPOSAL TO AMEND THE CITY CODE APPENDIX B ZONING IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE ATTACHED EXHIBIT A TO INCLUDE THOSE DEFINITIONS. ON MARCH 2ND 2023, THE PLANNING COMMISSION VOTED TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE CODE AMENDMENT WITH AN AMENDMENT TO THE PROPOSED LANGUAGE TO REMOVE THE CLAUSE EXCEPT WHERE EXPRESSLY PERMITTED BY RIGHT IN THIS ZONING ORDINANCE. I'M HAPPY TO RESPOND TO ANY QUESTIONS.

OKAY? ALRIGHT THIS IS THE PUBLIC HEARING NOW FOR THE CONSIDERATION OF THE ORDINANCE.

AMENDING THE PETERSBURG CITY CODE ON THE DEFINITIONS OF GROUP HOMES. RIGHT, MR STEWART. MALE PERM CITY COUNCIL. MY NAME OF IT TODAY. STEWART AND I HEARD A YOUNG MAN SPEAK ABOUT A GROUP HOME. YEARS AGO. THIS SAME ISSUE WAS BROUGHT UP. AND I THINK THERE WAS A BUILDING GROUP HOMES AND CERTAIN AREAS. IN THE CITY IN THE PEOPLE RANDOMLY AREA. I THINK THAT DIDN'T WANT IT. BUT THEY SAY AFTER STATE WELL AUTHORIZED HIM TO DO IT. THE CITY CAN COULD NOT STOP IT. IS THAT STILL IN EFFECT? ALL RIGHT , MR TABOR. YOU WENT TO ADDRESS MR STEWART'S QUESTION. WITH REGARD TO GROUP HOMES. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT, UM, AS LONG AS THEY COMPLY WITH THE RESIDENTIAL ZONING THE USE ASSOCIATED WITH THE RESIDENTIAL ZONING THEY ARE LEGALLY ALLOWED.

AND PERHAPS THE CITY ATTORNEY HAS ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. YEAH. MR WILLIAMS. THAT THAT'S CORRECT ZONING ORDINANCE SORT OF WHY. UNDER THE DEFINITION THAT'S DESCRIBED THE GROUP HOME DOES PLACE A BUY RIGHT UNDER FEDERAL LAW FOR FEWER THAN EIGHT, UM INDIVIDUALS, AND THAT'S CONTAINED IN THE DEFINITION, SO THE DEFINITION AND I THINK IT WAS IN THE ORIGINAL DEFINITION WHERE IT SAID. WHETHER LICENSED OR NOT, AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID THEY TAKE THAT OUT, MR TAYLOR, AND IT DOESN'T CHANGE THE ACTUAL ORDINANCE, BUT IT WAS INCLUDED ORIGINALLY FOR CLARIFICATION PURPOSES. OKAY? ALRIGHT. UM, YES, SIR. BACK IN THE BACK. STOKES.

QUESTION. IS THE CHANGING OF THE ORDINANCE ORDINANCE, SO THEY'RE MORE GROUP HOMES OR ASSISTED LIVING CAN BE ADDED. THIS IS MY QUESTION. CORRECT. YES, IN THE BACK.

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HELLO. UM MY NAME IS FRIEDA GREEN. HOW A LIVE IT 81814 VERANDA AVENUE. UM AND I HAVE A QUESTION BECAUSE I HAVE. I THINK A GROUP HOME I'M NOT SURE DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM ME, THE LADY THAT OWNS THE CALL THAT A SPONSORED HOME AND I WANTED TO KNOW IS THAT THE SAME THING? UM BECAUSE I HAVE ONE BEHIND ME ON CHUCKLE, TUCK AS WELL. UM HAVING THESE HOUSES AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THEY BECOME TO ME PERSONALLY A PROBLEM. UM, THE ONE THAT'S ON CHUKKA TUCK. THEY EMPLOYEES. SMOKE POT CONSTANTLY. UM THE PERSON THAT THEY'RE WATCHING. I'VE SEEN EMPLOY THEM FROM OUT OF THE STREET A COUPLE OF TIMES AS I WAS COMING PAST. AND WHEN THEY'RE ON THE PHONE UM THEY'RE VERY, VERY LOUD. CURSING. BEING BELLIGERENT, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THE OWNER OF THAT HOUSE IF IT'S A GROUP HOME, ASSISTED LIVING, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS, BUT I KNOW IT'S A SPONSORED HOME. AND THE ONE THAT'S ACROSS THE STREET FROM ME. IT'S BEEN THERE FOR ABOUT A MONTH. AND 7 15 EVERY MORNING FAITHFULLY INSTEAD OF ALERTING THE PEOPLE THAT THEIR TRANSPORTATION IS, THEY'RE THEY'RE RATHER BLOW THE HORN. I GET UP INSTINCTIVELY. NOW AT 7 15. THEY STILL HAVEN'T GOTTEN IT BECAUSE HE STILL COMES AND BLOWS THE HORN AND NOW SEMI TRUCKS, A PARKING THERE, AND IT'S NARROWING THE STREET. SO I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A SPONSORED HOME.

IS THERE A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A GROUP HOME? OR A AN ASSISTED LIVING HOME. AND IS THERE ANY TYPE OF REGULATION? I HEARD EARLIER THAT YOU SAID THAT THEY CAN BE LICENSED OR NOT? BUT WITH THESE HOMES IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA, IS THERE ANY TYPE OF REGULATION THAT GO ALONG WITH THESE HOMES? THANK YOU. YES, MISS WAYNE. GOOD AFTERNOON. MAYOR PARAM CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS CELESTE WIN. 3 19 EAST FILLMORE STREET. I WAS TRYING TO HOLD MY TONGUE. BUT UM I HAVE TO BE AN AMEN CORNER TO THE YOUNG LADY WHO JUST LEFT THE PODIUM. UM THERE WERE THREE GROUP HOMES ON MY STREET EAST FILLMORE STREET. AND NOW I DO BELIEVE THERE ARE TWO AND, UM, I'M IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA. OF COURSE, UM , THE FILM OR GROUP HOME, THEY CLOSED DOWN. UM WAS KIND OF LIKE A COMMERCIAL END OF MY STREET, SO IT WAS NOT PRIMARY RESIDENTIAL. AND I'M TRYING TO TAKE IT THERE. BUT YOU ALL ARE NOT ALLOW OR RESIDENT RESIDENTS WILL NOT ALLOW THAT ON HIGH STREET. YOU WANT TO ALLOW IT ON? UM MARSHALL STREET. YOU WILL ALLOW IT ANYWHERE AND WANTED HELL. SO WHAT ARE THE REGULATIONS FOR? COMMERCIAL AREAS BECAUSE I HAVE SEEN AND HEARD MYSELF OF THE SAME ISSUES THAT SHE SPOKE ABOUT. PEOPLE PICKING UP BLOWING THE HORN PEOPLE OUTSIDE SMOKING PEOPLE OUTSIDE YELLING AT THE RESIDENTS IN THE GROUP HOME, AND IT IS AN

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THERE'S PROBABLY HEARING HIS CLOTHES. VICE MARY HILL DISCUSSION. YES, UM. I GUESS THIS ORDINANCE WERE GIVE US MORE AUTHORITY. IS THAT WHAT THIS DOES? MAXIE! MR WILLIAMS. YEAH THE FEDERAL LAW ONLY ALLOWS YOU TO REGULATE CERTAIN TO A CERTAIN EXTENT WITH REGARD TO. BUILDINGS LIKE THIS OR OPERATIONS LIKE THIS, SO THIS EXTENDS TO YOU THE ABILITY TO REGULATE WHAT YOU CAN , UM, ABSENT THIS. THERE IS NO DEFINITION. AND SO YOU CAN'T REALLY SAY WHETHER OR NOT SOMETHING IS A GROUP HOME OR AN ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY. IT ALL GETS LUMPED TOGETHER. AND SO THROUGH THIS, THESE DEFINITIONS THE CITY IS GOING TO DO AS MUCH AS THEY CAN TO TRY TO PREVENT THINGS LIKE THE FILLMORE HOUSE FROM OCCURRING AGAIN IN THE FUTURE. THAT'S THAT'S WHAT THIS EFFORT IS, OKAY? THANK YOU BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THIS RIGHT HERE IS A BIG BUSINESS. YOU KNOW , WE CARE FOR THE LEAST THE LAWSUIT AND LEFT OUT. BUT MY CONCERN IS ALWAYS BEEN. YOU KNOW WHAT? WHY DOES PETERSBURG HAVE TO TAKE EVERYBODY'S LEAST THE LAWS AND LEFT OUT? UH AND I'M TRYING TO BE VERY SENSITIVE OF HOW I SAY THIS, BUT WE GET A LOT OF COMPLAINTS FROM THE INDIVIDUALS WHO RUN THESE PARTICULAR HOMES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. AND WE JUST GOT TO BE IN THERE ARE NEIGHBORS. HMM. AND I HAD A YOUNG LADY WHO ASKED ME WHERE I WANT TO MOVE.

ASSISTANT LIVING PLACE TO PETERSBURG. SHE LIVES IN CHESTERFIELD. I SAY WHY NOT JUST AFFAIR, SHE SAID, BECAUSE THEY WON'T LET ME BUT I KNOW PETER'S VERY WELL. SO YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO BE GATEKEEPERS TO SITUATIONS LIKE THIS. AH! I HAVE A SUNDAY'S ARTISTIC HE LIVES WITH ME. AND YOU KNOW, WE TAKE GOOD CARE OF HIM. SO I'M TALKING FROM A PLACE THAT I KNOW. AND YOU SEE INDIVIDUALS ON THE STREET. AND GETTING YOU KNOW THEY DON'T. THEY'RE NOT TAKEN CARE OF, AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. IS VERY CONCERNING. AND WHAT HAVE YOU SO I'M GLAD THAT WE'RE ABOUT AT LEAST TAKE THIS STEP. AH! TO DO SOMETHING AT LEAST AND THEN, ON THE OTHER HAND, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE IN COMPLIANCE AS WELL. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID , I'M ALL IN FAVOR OF THIS.

THANK YOU, MR MAYOR. COUNCILOR JONES. THINKING BACK ENOUGH OF WHAT THE CITY ATTORNEY SAID. AND ADVICE. MAYBE YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT EVERYBODY'S SAYING. UM. I WAS A FIREFIGHTER IN THIS CITY.

AND THE FIRE MARSHAL. AND THESE THINGS THESE PLACES IS POPPING UP. IN THE COMMUNITY. IT WAS DANGEROUS TO THE PEOPLE WHO IS LIVING IN THEM OCCUPYING THAT SPACE. AND JUSTICE.

THESE ARE NOT. COMMERCIAL STARTED. THESE ARE ONE OR TWO FAMILY DWELLINGS. AND WHEN YOU SLIDE THESE BUSINESSES WHEN YOU SLIDE THESE BUSINESSES OR THESE ACTIVITIES INTO SOMEBODY'S NEIGHBORHOOD. IT'S VERY UNWELCOME. WE HAVE TO DO AN INVESTIGATION IS YOU HAVE A FIRE MARSHAL DEPARTMENT. UH COLD COMPLIANCE DEPARTMENT, UM, THAT THESE DAYS SUPPOSED TO GO THROUGH TO GET EXPECTED IN THE FIRST PLACE? SO THERE'S A LOT WE CAN DO AS A CITY. TO PREVENT THIS STUFF, ESPECIALLY IF YOU THE CITY, THE CITIZENS COMPLAINED AND LET US KNOW WHERE THEY ARE. WE CAN GO THERE IF THEY DON'T HAVE A FIRE INSPECTION. THAT'S ONE THEY DON'T HAVE A BUSINESS LICENSE, AND THEY SAID THAT'S ANOTHER ONE. THEY'RE GETTING MONEY. FOR TAKING CARE OF PEOPLE, CALLING IT A SPONSOR HOME. WELL. WE ARE GETTING TAX DOLLARS OFF IT.

THAT'S ANOTHER WAY. BUT AND THERE'S ANOTHER DEFINITION CALLED NUISANCE. ORDINANCE. WE HAVE SO WE CAN FIX THIS. WE ALL AND WITH US, SEND IT TO US. ADDRESS. PICTURES, VIDEOS, ANYTHING. AND WE CAN DIRECT THE CITY MANAGER. TO GET HIS PEOPLE TO GET ON TOP OF IT. WE'RE NOT GONNA STAND FOR THIS MESS. NO MORE IN PETERSBURG. YOU CAN'T JUST COME HERE AND MISS USERS.

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AND I THANK EVERYONE WHO HAS SPOKEN HERE ESPECIALLY THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC. I KNOW IT TAKES A LITTLE BIT OF GUMPTION TO COME UP TO THAT LECTERN AND TALK TO TALK IN PUBLIC. UM I WANT TO, UH, READ EXCERPTS FROM NEWSPAPER ARTICLE THAT WAS PUBLISHED IN THE PROGRESS INDEX ON FEBRUARY. THE 23RD. OF THIS YEAR. I HAVE PUT A COPY OF THIS NEWSPAPER ARTICLE THAT EVERYBODY'S SEAT HERE AT THIS TABLE. UM AND THE TAKEAWAY IS THAT WE NEED TO DO. EXACTLY WHAT THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE SPOKEN HERE SAY, NAMELY, PROTECT OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. BUT EQUALLY IMPORTANT IS TO PROTECT THE RESIDENTS OF THESE ASSISTED LIVING FACILITIES. LET ME JUST READ YOU SOME A FEW SENTENCES OUT OF THIS NEWSPAPER ARTICLE. IT IS TITLED HOW DID MALPRACTICE SPREAD TO GROUP HOMES? AND IT BEGINS DATELINE PETERSBURG IN 2005, A RICHMOND PSYCHIATRIST MET WITH HIS PATIENT AT A HOTEL. AND ENGAGED IN SEXUAL ACTIVITIES , HANDING HER LIQUOR AND MEDICAL DRUGS. THIS PSYCHIATRIST DR NIAZI SIA FULLA WOULD EVENTUALLY HAVE HIS LICENSE SUSPENDED TWICE BY THE VIRGINIA BOARD OF MEDICINE IN 2006. IN 2013. AFTER THEY CONDUCTED AN EXTENSIVE INVESTIGATION INTO HIS BUSINESS. ALL OF WHICH HAS BEEN DOCUMENTED AND MADE PUBLIC. NIAZI RAN AT LEAST TO ASSISTED LIVING FACILITIES, ONE IN RICHMOND. AND ANOTHER. IN PETERSBURG. HE TOOK OWNERSHIP OF PETERSBURG'S FILMORE PLACE IN 2013 UNTIL 2022 WHEN THE STATE FINALLY SHUT THE FACILITY DOWN. PHIL MOREHEAD, THE CAPACITY TO HOUSE 89 RESIDENTS. APPLICANTS WHO WANT THIS IS PEOPLE LIKE NIAZI. APPLICANTS WHO WANT TO RUN AN ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY MUST SUBMIT A BACKGROUND CHECK A SWORN STATEMENT DISCLOSING IF THEY HAVE ANY CRIMINAL CONVICTIONS OR PENDING CHARGES, AS WELL AS THREE REFERENCES WHO ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE APPLICANTS CHARACTER THE LICENSING TEAM AT THE DEPARTMENT OF THE VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL SERVICES, WHICH IS IN CHARGE OF GRADING THE APPLICANT. THE LICENSE TO OPERATE A FACILITY WROTE TO THE PROGRESS INDEX AND AN EMAIL THAT NIAZI IS APPLICATION AND REQUIRED DOCUMENTATION. QUOTE WERE FOUND TO BE COMPLIANT. SO. THE TAKEAWAY IS IF WE'RE GOING TO PROTECT THE RESIDENTS OF THESE FACILITIES CITY COUNCIL HAS TO HAVE SOME CONTROL. WE CANNOT RELY ON THE STATE OF VIRGINIA. AS THE FILM OR PLAYS ILLUSTRATES, BECAUSE THAT LEVEL OF OVERSIGHT IS CLEARLY NOT SUFFICIENT. AND SO FOR THOSE REASONS IF WE ARE AT THE POINT OF A MOTION, WE ARE THE MOTION.

AT THIS TIME I MOVED THAT WE ADOPT THE ORDINANCE AS RECOMMENDED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION THAT IS THE EXHIBIT A ON PAGE 83 WITH THE DELETION. OF THE PHRASE IN THE LAST SENTENCE , EXCEPT WHERE EXPRESSLY PERMITTED BY RIGHT IN THIS ZONING ORDINANCE. HMM. ALRIGHT VICE MAYOR HILL. SECOND EMOTION ALRIGHT DISCUSSION. UM COUNCILMAN JONES. I WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO THAT. VERY BIG. WHAT DID YOU CALL IT? SPONSOR HOME. WE NEED TO KNOW THE DIFFERENCE IN THAT. IF THERE'S A DIFFERENCE, I THINK IT'S THE SAME THING. WHAT SO WITH THAT.

OKAY? ABSOLUTELY, UM. GROUP HOME AND SPONSORED HOMES WILL BE INCLUDED. OKAY. NOW, WAIT A MINUTE. I THINK WE MUDDY THE WATER BY PUTTING THE TERM IN. THAT'S NOT DEFINED THE BEAUTY OF THE GROUP HOME TERM IS THAT IT IS DEFINED BY STATE STATUTE. IT IT EMBRACES SPONSORED HOMES AS I UNDERSTAND IT. IS THAT RIGHT, MR WILLIAMS? I'M NOT SURE WHAT A SPONSORED HOME IS, UM, SO THE EFFORT OF THIS IS TO BRING SOME CLARITY I WOULD RECOMMEND AGAINST ADDING NEW, UM BURBAGE TO IT. IF THERE'S ANOTHER TYPE OF, UM, FACILITY THAT'S NOT CONTEMPLATED BY THIS AND

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WE'VE BEEN IN 2017 PURCHASED AN ADDITIONAL 39 ACRES FROM MR MAYOR, WHO IS OUR OWNS THE ADJACENT PROPERTY IN QUESTION TONIGHT AND ALSO OWNED THE FARM AT THE END OF WALES ROAD. WE DID THIS BECAUSE WHEN WE LOOKED AT WHEN YOU GUYS STARTED LOOKING AT THE 2014 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, YOU LOOKED AT IT BACK IN 2008 AND 2009. PART OF THAT PLAN AT THAT TIME WAS ALSO TO PROTECT THE GREEN FIELDS OF PETERSBURG. BEING BORN AND RAISED IN PETERSBURG AND BEING EDUCATED

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SO WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD, JUST LIKE YOU GUYS DID BACK IN 2014. WE BEGAN OUR PURCHASE OF LAND IN THE CITY. SO WE'VE COME BEFORE YOU TONIGHT WITH THE REQUEST. TO HELP US MOVE FORWARD AGAIN WITH THE ADDITIONAL PURCHASE OF 16.253 ACRES. FROM MR MAYOR. UM IN PREVIOUS MEETINGS, THERE WAS DISCUSSIONS BETWEEN SOME OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT WHAT ABOUT OTHER RESIDENTS WHO IS AFFECTED BY THIS? THERE IS NO ONE AFFECTED BY THIS. THIS IS PERSONAL PROPERTY OWNED BY THE WILKINS FAMILY. AND MR MAYOR. UM WE ARE NEIGHBORS. SO ALL THAT IS , AND IT IS AN EXCHANGE OF AN ADDITIONAL 16.25. THREE ACRES FROM MR MAYOR TO THE WILKINS FAMILY. AND OUR I HOPE THAT YOU WILL CONSIDER THIS REQUEST AND HELP US MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PURCHASE OF THIS PROPERTY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS WILKINS. NEXT, I'LL OPEN UP THE FLOOR FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING. AND THAT IS FOR THE ZONING TEXT TO AMEND ARTICLE FOR A AGRICULTURE DISTRICTS REGULATIONS. SECTION NINE SPECIAL REQUIREMENTS HAVE BEEN MET A SUBDIVISION THAT CREATES ONE PARCEL. THAT MEANS THE DIMENSION REQUIREMENTS OF LIVES. PARCEL IN THE R ONE A DISTRICT IN THE HANDS IN THE PUBLIC HEARING, MR STEWART. THE APPEARANCE OF THE COUNCIL THAT WENT TO AN OUTLAW STREET. SOME OF THIS LAND LOOKED LIKE LAYING AND POCAHONTAS AND THE QUESTION I WANT TO ASK WHEN YOU SAY AGRICULTURE PERSON RATHER DON'T YOU? CAN YOU HAVE PIGS, DOGS OR ANIMALS AND. COWS AND DIFFERENT THINGS AND BONDS. HOW DID THAT AFFECT A RESIDENTIAL AREA WHEN YOU GOT RESIDENTIAL AND YOU GOTTA AGRICULTURE. HOW THOSE TWO CORRESPONDING. DON'T CONFLICT WITH THE OTHER. MR TAYLOR, YOU WENT TO ADDRESS STEWART'S QUESTION. I CAN I'LL TRY IT SO WITHIN THE AGRICULTURE DISTRICT , SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENT SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE USE IS PERMITTED. WITHIN RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS. AGRICULTURAL USES ARE NOT PERMITTED. SO PROPERTIES THAT ARE ZONED R ONE OR ONE A. R TWO. ARE THREE. UH UM, DO NOT PERMIT THE AGRICULTURE USES THAT ARE PERMITTED LIKE ANIMAL ANIMALS AND, UM, FARMLAND. THAT ARE PERMITTED WITHIN THE AGRICULTURE DISTRICT. DOES IT RESPOND TO YOUR QUESTION? BUT ONLY IN AGRICULTURE DISTRICTS NOT NOT IN RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS. SO UM, PROPERTIES OWNED PROPERTIES IN POCAHONTAS, FOR EXAMPLE, ARE ZONED RESIDENTIAL AND NOT AGRICULTURE , SO NO AGRICULTURE USED WOULD BE PERMITTED. OKAY? ALRIGHT, UM . SEEING NO OTHER HANDS IN THIS PUBLIC HEARING. ALL THIS PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED. NEXT COUNCILMAN CUPBOARD THANK YOU, MR MAYOR, MR TABOR. A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. WHAT IS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLANS SAY AS TO HOW THIS PROPERTY SHOULD BE USED? AH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

I BELIEVE, AH! DEFINES THE LAND. THE. FUTURE USE AS INDUSTRIAL AND RESIDENTIAL. NO INDUSTRIAL AND COMMERCIAL. UNBELIEVABLE IS THAT RIGHT? YES, I BELIEVE SO. I DON'T HAVE THE I'M GOING FROM MEMORY. I DON'T HAVE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND IN FRONT OF ME YOUR MEMORY IS THAT ITS INDUSTRIAL OR COMMERCIAL, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. AND IS INTERNATIONAL PAPER JUST ACROSS WELLS ROAD FROM THIS PROPERTY? YES, IT IS. AND SO WATER AND SEWER INFRASTRUCTURE OR JUST ACROSS WELLS ROAD FROM THE LAND. QUESTION IS THAT CORRECT? I BELIEVE SO, YES. AND DOES THE CAPACITY OF THE POOR CREEK WASTEWATER FACILITY. LIMIT THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS LAND FOR COMMERCIAL OR INDUSTRIAL PURPOSES, I WOULD HAVE TO DEFER TO PUBLIC WORKS. I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S LOCATED WITHIN THE POOR CREEK WATER AND SEWER SHED. OKAY, SO IF WE WOULD NOT BE HAMPERED AND PUT IN INDUSTRIAL AND COMMERCIAL USES ON THIS PROPERTY BY THE LIMITED CAPACITY OF THE WASTE WATER CAPACITY OF WASTEWATER FACILITY IS THAT RIGHT, MR WALDMAN? CORRECT WE'RE NOT. WE ARE NOT LIMITED BY THE CONCERNS THAT WE HAVE IN THE POOR CREEK DRAINAGE AREA LIKE WE

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REASON BEING THIS IS THEIR OWN PERSONAL PROPERTY. RIGHT AND WE CAN'T BE DICTATORS OF PEOPLE OWN PROPERTY IS THEIR PROPERTY THAT THEY WANT TO DO WITH IT. IT'S NOT GOING TO HAMPER US AT ALL.

BUT WHAT WE WANT TO DO. UNLESS SOMEBODY GOT EYES ON IT TO TAKE IT FROM I THINK WE SHOULD MOVE TO APPROVE IT. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR MYERS AND THAT WHOLEHEARTEDLY NO ONE SHOULD INSTITUTE SOMETHING SMILES, PRIVATE PROPERTY. ALRIGHT, DISCUSSION COUNCIL COVERING WELL , I GUESS WE HAVE A FUNDAMENTAL DIFFERENCE OF OPINION HERE I THINK ON THE JOB IS COUNCIL IS TO HELP SHAPE THE FUTURE OF THIS CITY. AND WE CAN'T JUST BE PATSY'S AND KEEP OUR HANDS AND ALL THAT. WE HAVE TO GIVE LEADERSHIP AND WE HAVE TO GIVE DIRECTION AND WE HAVE TO INDICATE AH, HOW WE WANT THIS CITY TO GROW AND HOW WE WANTED TO DEVELOP. NOW WE HAVE ONLY 23 SQUARE MILES. THAT'S IT MAY SOUND LIKE A LOT, BUT THAT'S PETERSBURG IS LIMITED TO 23 SQUARE MILES. I WAS TALKING TO THE CITY MANAGER THE OTHER DAY. I ASKED HIM HOW MANY SQUARE MILES ALL THERE IN DIDN'T WAIT A COUNTY, HE SAID OVER 500. UH, IN MY JAW DROPPED SO YOU KNOW, I WE'VE GOT TO BE CAREFUL STEWARDS OF HOW LAND IN PETERSBURG IS USED IN THE FUTURE. AH OR ELSE WE WILL FIND THAT WHEN WE CANNOT GENERATE THE REVENUE TO SUPPORT ESSENTIAL MUNICIPAL SERVICES. SO THIS IS THIS IS SERIOUS BUSINESS THAT WE ARE ENGAGED IN WE IT IS OUR LEGITIMATE BUSINESS. IN FACT , IT IS ALWAYS ESSENTIAL BUSINESS TO HELP DIRECT THE FUTURE GROWTH OF THIS CITY. THE EXISTING COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SAYS THAT THE PROPERTY SHOULD BE USED FOR COMMERCIAL OR INDUSTRIAL PURPOSES. THERE'S INFRASTRUCTURE ACROSS THE ROAD FOR WATER AND SEWER. THIS IS IDEAL FOR DEVELOPMENT FOR INDUSTRIAL PARK . SO FOR THOSE REASONS ARE I'M AGAINST THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION. I UNDERSTAND THE HEART STRING PULL , BUT DEFINITELY WE DON'T WE DON'T JUST HAVE TO DO WHAT THE EXISTING PROPERTY OWNER WANTS. WE HAVE TO DIRECT THE GROWTH OF THE CITY. KEEP IT IN MIND THAT WE HAVE ONLY 23 SQUARE MILES. THANK YOU. COUNCILOR. MS. SMITH, LEE. UM, MAYOR. WE CANNOT IF SOMEONE OWNS. SOME PROPERTY. WE CAN'T TELL THEM WHAT THEY CAN AND CAN'T NOT DO WITH THEIR OWN PROPERTY. THAT'S THAT'S THAT THAT THAT YOUNG LADY AND HER HUSBAND'S PROPERTY. WE'RE GONNA TELL THEM WHAT THEY CAN DO THAT'S LIKE IF I DECIDE TO PURCHASED SOME PROPERTY AND IF I JUST WANT TO KEEP IT AND NOT DO ANYTHING WITH IT. AND THE CITY CAN TELL ME THAT I NEED TO DO SOMETHING WITH IT. I DON'T THINK THAT'S RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND. AT THIS TIME, MADAM CLERK YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL SUFFERED NO WE HAVE VOTING ON THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION TO APPROVE. COUNCIL MEMBER CUSTOMER. NO. REMEMBER JONES. I REMEMBER SMITH LI I COUNCIL MEMBER MEYER COUNCIL MEMBER WESTBROOK. VICE MAYOR HILL. MAYOR PERM PAST. ALRIGHT.

NEXT MOVE ON TO ITEM EIGHT E, WHICH IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION OR ORDINANCE APPROVING THE EXPANSION OF THE LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT REGULATIONS TO INDIVIDUAL PROPERTIES LISTED ON ATTACHED LIST THAT ALSO LISTED ON THE NATIONAL REGISTER OF HISTORIC PLACES, THEREFORE REQUIRED A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS BEFORE ANY EXTERIOR CHANGES ARE MADE. MR TABLE. I'M SORRY. MAY HAVE THE PRESENTATION, PLEASE. DO YOU KNOW THAT? OH, OKAY. UH HUH. OKAY SO DURING THE NOVEMBER 1ST 2022. CITY COUNCIL MEETING, THE CITY COUNCIL CONSIDERED AN

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MR MAYOR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. MY NAME IS JULIAN GREEN, MY RESIDENTS OF 16 25. BLAIR ROAD PETERSBURG CODE. 23805. AND I AM THE COURT CHAIRMAN, OR PAL D. C WHICH STANDS FOR PEABODY ACADEMIC LEARNING AND DEVELOPMENT CENTER. MR MAYOR. GOOD EVENING MEMBERS FILM A JEFFERSON AND I AM ALSO CO CHAIR OF PAL D. C. HMM AND EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE PEABODY HIGH SCHOOL NATIONAL ALUMNUS ASSOCIATION. AND MY AFFILIATION AND IN THAT PARTNERSHIP WAS THE EXACT DIRECTOR AND PRESIDENT OF THE PEOPLE'S BOROUGH PUBLIC SCHOOL EDUCATION FOUNDATION. THE TWO GROUPS CAME TOGETHER. 25 OR ONE C THREE ORGANIZATION CAME TOGETHER AND GAVE BIRTH. TO PILE THE SEA, WHICH IS PEABODY ACADEMIC LEARNING AND DEVELOPMENT CENTER. PAL D C HAS OVER 25 HBCU ASSOCIATED AND AFFILIATED WITH IT. TO INCLUDE VIRGINIA STATE UNIVERSITY. AND THE ALGEBRA PROJECT THAT CALLED THE SCORES GO UP TREMENDOUSLY AND PETERSBURG WHEN THEIR ROLES WE ARE HERE TO SAY. THAT THE OLDEST. AFRICAN AMERICAN SCHOOLS IN THE NATION. JUST CHECK THE DATE. PEABODY. COMPLEX. JUST CHECK. THE DAY. AT THE SAME TIME WHEN THE BUILDINGS WERE BUILT.

THEY WERE CALLED TWIN BUILDINGS. CONNECTED BY AN ARCH. ONLY LATER TO BE SEPARATED BECAUSE OF A FIRE. THE COMPLEX AS HISTORIC AND NATURE AND STRUCTURE. IT'S ALREADY ON THE NATIONAL REGISTER. BUT WHAT? HOW IS RECOGNIZED? IT DOESN'T RECOGNIZE AS THE WAY IN BUILDING ON THE NATIONAL REGISTRY. IS RECOGNIZED AS THE PEABODY THE WHOLE COMPLEXES, PEABODY. PROPOSAL TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND TO EVERYONE IN PETERSBURG IN THE CITIZEN CAN ATTEST TO THIS. IS THAT WE HAVE SOME HISTORIC DISTRICT IN THE CITY. BUT NONE EXCEED. OVER A PEABODY. WHY.

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THAT. IF WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE OR MODIFY THE ORDINANCE OF EXPLAINED THE ORDER ORDINANCE.

WE PROPOSE THE TWO ORGANIZATIONS. BUT SAY PAL D. C. THAT YOU INCLUDE THE COMPLETE COMPLEX OF PEABODY. AND YOU HAVE IT KNOWN AS A HISTORIC DISTRICT. PEABODY SCHOOL HISTORIC DISTRICT. THE SQUARE. AT THE PEABODY SCHOOL HISTORY. DARK DISTRICT. IT'S SURROUNDED BY HALIFAX RATE. WESLEY STREET. YOUR OWN STREET. AND LEE AVENUE. THE SQUARE. HISTORIC. COMING FROM THEIR SCHOOL. IF THE CHIEF JUDGE OF THE SUPREME COURT OF VIRGINIA JUDGE GREGORY. ONE OF THE MOST PROLIFERATE ATHLETIC ATHLETE COMING OUT OF PETERSBURG PLAYED BASKETBALL. MOSES MALONE.

FOOTBALL PLAYERS, MR BOLDEN. ARTISTS. WE HAVE THEM NOW SOME OF THE YOUNG ONES. MR T AND I WE MAY NOT. REGISTERED WITH THEM. BUT WHAT? THE YOUNG LADY NAMED THE YOUNG MAN, UH, TRACE OUT. SO WE'RE HERE. AND THEY'RE THEY'RE SO WE CAN'T DO THE TIKTOK THING THAT THEY DO. BUT WERE YOU SAYING SOME SIGNIFICANT THING? BLAIR UNDERWOOD? WE HAVE SOME SIGNIFICANT THINGS THAT HAPPENED IN PETERSBURG CAME OUT OF PEABODY. LET'S NOT DWELL ON CHASING THE GOLDEN GOOSE.

BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN DISAPPOINTED GOING AFTER THE GOLDEN I'M GOING TO LEAVE THAT RIGHT WHERE IT IS. PEABODY WILL BE ABLE TO TRAIN THE TEACHERS. WE HAVE A DEFICIT IN TEACHERS, TEACHERS ARE LEAVING. TEACHERS CAN GET FIRSTHAND TRAINING RIGHT THERE AT PEABODY. AND THE AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAM. WE'RE NOT COMPETING WITH THE SCHOOL SYSTEM . WE ARE COLLABORATING WITH THEM ALL IN THE AREA. PEABODY WAS THE SCHOOL THAT IT WAS A SCHOOL ONLY SCHOOL FOR BLACKS, WHICH MEANT THAT STUDENTS CAME FROM HOPEWELL. PRESS GEORGE HOLDING YOUR HIKES. METRIC. CHESTERFIELD THEN WOODY, NEVER THE ONLY SCHOOL AROUND. ONLY. ONE SO LET'S GIVE IT WHAT IS DO IT SHOULD BE CALLED THE PEABODY SCHOOL HISTORIC DISTRICT. LET'S RECOGNIZED FOR WHAT IT IS. AND PETERSBURG IF WE ARE 70% 80, AFRICAN AMERICAN HEY, WE GOT TO OUR OWN HOME. AND WE HAVE AN INSTITUTION THAT CAN DO THAT. THERE'S A LOT OF, UH DR THELMA JEFFERSON. DOMINICAN STATEMENT, PLEASE. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. MR GREEN BODY HAS SCHOOL BUILDING AND BODIES PRIOR TO THE HIGHEST EXTENT. AND FORD'S GRADUATES IN THE COMMUNITY. IT IS A TANGIBLE MONUMENT TO THE BLACK HISTORY OF PETERSBURG. THROUGH THOSE WALLS , AND MR GREEN HAS ALREADY SAID WHAT DOCTORS? JUDGES PROFESSIONAL ATHLETES, POLITICIANS. SCIENTISTS JUST THE NAME OF FEW BUT NOT ONLY THOSE WHO WENT ON TO HAVE GREAT CAREERS. WE HAD THE LOCAL JOE AND THE LOCAL JANE. WHO GRADUATED. SOUND JOBS AND ENJOYED THE LIFE RIGHT HERE IN PETERSBURG. THE SCHOOL WAS A BEACON IN OUR COMMUNITY. AND WE WANT THAT AGAIN. HOW DO WE ACHIEVE THAT? BUT TURNING IT INTO A HAVEN OF OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE COMMUNITY. IT CAN BE AN EDUCATIONAL CENTER. OFFERING SPACE FOR TUTORING. COMPUTER LABS. THE GYM. COULD BE USED BY THE A U BASKETBALL TEAMS. THE AUDITORIUM COULD HOUSE VARIOUS PRODUCTIONS AND CONCERTS,

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POCAHONTAS IS ON HISTORICAL REGISTER. NOT HISTORICAL DISTRICT. WE DENY THAT WE DIDN'T WANT HIS START THE DISTRICT WE WANT HIS DOG TO REGISTER. JARED HOUSES ALRIGHT, $200,000 AND PUT ON THAT. WHATEVER YOU DO TO YOUR HOUSE. ONCE YOU PUT IT ON IN THAT HISTORICAL DISTRICT HAS TO BE APPROVED BY SOMEBODY ELSE. IT HAS TO BE APPROVED. GOD HAS SOME MONEY. YOU KNOW, MOUTH. YOU GOTTA HAVE SOME MONEY. WHEN YOU STARTED DEALING WITH HISTORICAL PROPERTY, YOU GOT TO HAVE SOME MONEY. RIGHT NOW, THE YOUNG LADIES BUILDING THIS HOUSEHOLD AND POCAHONTAS THAT THERE HAS BEEN A HISTORICAL DISTRICT. I DON'T THINK SHE COULD HAVE FOLDED. SHE'S BUILDING A NEW HOUSE OVER THERE, AND SHE TRIED TO HELP TO PRESERVE POCAHONTAS. SO WHEN START TALKING, YOU GOT TO GET UNDERSTANDING THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HISTORIC DISTRICT HISTORICAL REGISTER.

BECAUSE IT CAN COST YOU MONEY. $200,000 WAS SPENT ON THE JARED HOUSE. NOT ANOTHER DIME WAS SPENT ON THE REST OF THE ISLAND. WHERE'S OUR MONEY? THEY GET RID OF CAROL ROAD TO POCAHONTAS. MY NAME IS BEING PROVIDED. WHERE'S OUR MONEY? BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHY WE WON'T LET NOBODY TELL US WHAT TO DO WITH OUR PROPERTY. OVER THERE. WE GOT THREE DIFFERENT PROPERTIES. JARED HOUSE WAS BUILT AROUND 18 10, AND WE HAD NATIVE AMERICANS ANY OF THAT. SCOTT HOUSE, 18 33. BUT WHEN WALTHER HOUSE, 18 33 AND STEVEN'S HOUSE, 18 31. THOSE ARE HISTORICAL HOUSES. BUT IF THEY WASN'T HISTORICAL DISTRICT, WE COULD NAME FORWARD TO DOING THE WORK ON THEM. SO BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU ASK FOR. BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU ASKED AND GET A FULL UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN HISTORICAL DISTRICT. AND HIS DOG REGISTER. WHO IS IN CHARGE WITH THE RENOVATION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YES, MA'AM. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL PEOPLE EVENING HELD TO YOU FROM HISTORICAL COMMUNITY WAY DOWN SOUTH AND NORTH CHARLESTON, SOUTH CAROLINA. MY HOMEBOY, MR. GREEN AND HIS FAMILY AND MY FAMILY ALL RESIDED IN THAT COMMUNITY CALLED LIBERTY HILL. AND ONE OF THE TRAGEDIES OF LIBERTY HILL THAT WE'RE EXPERIENCING NOW. EXCUSE ME. CAN I HAVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE? THANK YOU. WILSON 234 HIGH STREET, HISTORICAL STREET. THANK YOU SPEAK HERE TONIGHT TO ASK YOU TO TAKE WARNING TO PRESERVE YOUR HISTORICAL COMMUNITIES. RIGHT NOW. LIBERTY HILL IS BEING ENCROACHED BY ALL THE NORTHERNERS AND PEOPLE WHO DON'T SHARE THAT RICH HISTORY. LIBERTY HILL PROVIDED ITS RESIDENTS THE HISTORIC SCHOOL. WAS TORN DOWN, AND NOW THEY HAVE A SCHOOL WHERE THE NATIVE COMMUNITY CAN'T ATTEND. SO THOSE ARE THE TYPE OF THINGS THAT WILL HAPPEN IF WE DON'T PRESERVE OUR HISTORY. WE ARE FIGHTING TO THIS DAY TRYING

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VIRGINIA STATE ALUMNI. MY MASTERS IN MY BASTARDS BOTH IN HISTORY, SO I HAVE TO SAY THIS BEFORE I GET TO THAT THERE'S ONLY IN MY LIFETIME. FOUR PEOPLE THAT ARE STILL LIVING. 51 IS DECEASED. LET ME NAME THEM. THEY SHOULD BE TALKING ABOUT ANYTHING CONCERNING THE HISTORY OF PETERSBURG. MR SHAW. Y'ALL KNOW WHO THAT IS. HE'S DECEASED. LUCIUS EDWARDS, WHO IS STILL LIVING MYSELF. A MANUAL DABNEY AND MR STEWARD. THAT'S IT. IN THE CITY OF PETERSBURG. EVERYONE ELSE YOU'RE BEING INSULTING. SO NOW LET ME MOVE ON. SO THERE ARE A LOT OF ISSUES WITH THIS. I JUST RECEIVED IT TODAY. AS A HISTORIAN, I'M LOOKING AT IT. THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS WRONG WITH IT. I'M JUST GONNA GO OVER TO ONE GEOGRAPHICALLY AND HISTORICALLY SPEAKING, THERE'S NEVER BEEN ANYONE CALLING AFRICAN AMERICANS STOP IT. THERE'S NO SUCH THING. NUMBER.

TWO LET'S GO TO SO MANY THINGS THAT'S NOT ON THIS LIST TO YOU DON'T HAVE POPULAR GROWTH NATIONAL CEMETERY. WHY IS THAT IMPORTANT? BECAUSE AFTER THOSE MEN, THE UNITED STATES COLORED TROOPS WITH GENOCIDE MURDERED AT THAT CRATER. THEY WERE TAKEN OUT A LITTLE BIT PAST. WHAT'S CALLED THAT? WAS THAT UH, TIM READS, UH, MILLENNIUM STUDIOS. YOU GO PAST THERE ABOUT 2.5 3 MILES ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE, YOU FOUND A SMALL MARKER. POPULAR GROWTH. THAT'S WHERE THEY ARE BURIED TO THIS DAY. THE UNITED STATES COLORED TROOPS WERE MURDERED. 219 OF THEM. BURIED WITH CONFEDERATE SOLDIERS TO THIS VERY DAY. I DON'T SEE THAT ON THIS LIST. THAT'S MORE. THAT'S WRONG WITH THIS, BUT WE HAVE TO FIRST MAKE SURE THAT WHEN YOU HAVE SOMEONE WRITING SOMETHING ABOUT HISTORY, MAKE SURE YOU GET THE PEOPLE THAT'S FROM THAT AREA SO WE CAN TELL YOU CORRECTLY ABOUT OUR HISTORY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. HMM. GOOD EVENING AGAIN. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME PATROLLING STOKES AND I ALSO LIVE IN CHESTERFIELD COUNTY. 6100 DOORS DRIVE NORTH CHESTERFIELD, VIRGINIA ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE MATHEMATICS RIVER. UH, FIRST OF ALL, UH, I AM FROM FOR ME WITH THE CONDITION OF THE PRE PARTY HOUSE WHO BUILDING AND THE CITY COUNCIL IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE SECURITY OF OUR PROPERTY LOCATED. ON THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE SCHOOL PROPERTY. THAT BUILDING NEEDS TO BE SECURED AND PROTECTED. I AM A RETIRED ASSISTANT FIRE MARSHAL WITH JUST FILL COUNTY. AND, UH, MOST OF THE PEOPLE AND PETERSBURG LIVE HERE NOW OUR SENIORS AND RETIREES POPULATION. TO INCREASE THE TAX REVENUE. PETERSBURG.

PETER'S BURY THE CITY COUNCIL NEEDS TO GET CREATED THE REBEL UP WAYS AND MEANS TO ATTRACT YOUNG PEOPLE. PEOPLE THAT WANT TO LIVE HERE AND THEIR FAMILIES BACK INTO THE CITY. HMM. BACK IN THE CITY AREA. OKAY? FORMED IN 2017 ALREADY HEARD FROM THE PEABODY HIGH SCHOOL NATIONAL I'M NINE ASSOCIATION, WHICH IS MADE UP OF APPROXIMATELY UM 600. GRADUATES OF PEABODY HIGH SCHOOL , AND I'M ONE OF THEM, AND I'M VERY PROUD OF THAT SCHOOL. I DON'T WANT TO SEE IT GOING DOWN AND THAT'S WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO TRY TO DO. DO NOT DO THAT. IT'S PRIVATE PART OF THE HISTORY OF

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I'M AFRAID THAT IF WE PUT SOME OF THESE STRUCTURES. THAT ARE NOT RESPECTED THE WAY SOME OF THE OTHER RESTRUCTURES. THIS STRUCTURES ARE SUCH AS BLANDFORD CHURCH. UM. THEY'RE GOING TO GET NEGLECTED DOWN THE ROAD WHEN I SOLD THE PROPERTY. I THOUGHT THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE CONVERTED INTO APARTMENTS. IT'S BACK ON THE MARKET, SO SOMEBODY'S FLIPPING IT, WHICH THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO THAT. THE ONLY PROBLEM IS. IS I DON'T THINK THAT ANYBODY IS GOING TO BE PUTTING ANY BIG DOLLARS INTO THIS BUILDING UNTIL IT GETS SOLD FOR EITHER APARTMENTS FOR ANOTHER USE. AND IF WE TURN AROUND AND START TELLING PEOPLE THEY HAVE TO PUT BACK THE EXACT SAME WHEN THOSE THAT ARE THERE, WHICH IS REQUIRED BY DHR, NATIONAL PARKS AND SO FORTH. AND THAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO STANDING SEAM ROOFS THE WAY THEY WERE DONE FOR THE WHOLE PERIOD OF TIME. THE BUILDING WAS THERE, WHICH I'VE REPLACED MOST OF THEM, SO THEY THEY'RE NOT GONNA HAVE TO DO THAT FOR A WHILE. I'M AFRAID THAT SOME OF THESE PROPERTIES ARE GOING TO FALL INTO TOTAL DISREPAIR BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THE WHEREWITHAL TO DO IT. BECAUSE IT IS EXPENSIVE TO FOLLOW THE RULES. BUT IF THEY ARE GOING TO CONVERT THEM INTO APARTMENTS, SO THEY'RE GOING TO PUT IT INTO A GOOD USE. THEY HAVE TAX CREDITS. THERE'S ADVANTAGES TO IT. THAT IS THE REASON WHY I HAD A DESIGNATED I SPENT MY OWN MONEY TO ACTUALLY HAVE A HISTORIC DESIGNATION ON THAT PROPERTY. AND EVERYBODY, I'M SURE IS GOING TO APPRECIATE TO HEAR THIS. WE WENT FOR A C CLASS, AND THEY UPPED US TO AN A CLASS ON THE BUILDING BECAUSE, THEY SAID, WE MISSED SOME OF THE HISTORIC VALUE OF THE BUILDING. SO IT IS A VERY HISTORIC BUILDING. AND YES, IT WOULD BE GOOD. TO HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY WITH A NEW DEVELOPMENT ON THE PROPERTY. BUT I DON'T THINK THAT YOU WANT TO PUT THIS BURDEN ON SOMEBODY THAT HAS TO MAINTAIN IT? FOR THE UPCOMING YEARS TILL IT'S A RESOLD THAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO COME BEFORE US AND SPEND ALL THIS EXTRA MONEY. JUST TO MAINTAIN IT AND KEEP IT DRIED IN. THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHAT I GOT TO SAY. ANY QUESTIONS? YES MR PATTERSON. I HAVE A QUESTION IF I MAY LET ME CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING FIRST. UM BECAUSE I HAVE ANOTHER GENTLEMAN BACK IN THE BACK WAITING AND MISS BASSETT WILL WILL CIRCLE BACK AROUND TO YOU. TO THE COUNCIL. ALRIGHT ERIC WILLIAMS, SIX. OH, SIX.

HARDING. UM FROM WHAT I CAN TELL. ONE OF A KIND WHERE MY PERSONAL RESIDENCES ON HIS LIST

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GOOD EVENING, MR MAYOR. GOOD EVENING, MEMBERS OF THE EVENING . GOOD EVENING, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. UM COURT. AS WELL. 8 40 FOR MILLER STREET. YOU KNOW, I LISTENED TO SOME OF THE COMMENTS AND I HEARD THE COMMENTS REGARDING AH! UNDERSTANDING THE DIFFERENTIATION. BETWEEN. BEING ON THE NATIONAL HISTORIC REGISTRY. AH! I WILL TELL YOU AS A REAL ESTATE BROKER. WE FIND MANY INSTANCES, PROPERTIES THAT ARE DESIGNATED. AS HISTORIC ARE SOMETIMES MORE TROUBLESOME. AND CHALLENGING. TO SELL. I'M TELLING YOU, I MEAN, I TAKE THIS INFORMATION FROM THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF REALTORS. AND I WOULD ONLY ASK THAT YOU ALL BECOME ISN'T THAT BECAUSE PROPERTY AH! THE INTRINSIC CONCERNS. FROM AN EX LOOKING AT AN EXTERIOR OF A HISTORIC IT'S NOT THE SAME AS A TYPICAL PARCEL. AND THERE ARE MANY TIMES STATE HISTORIC PRESERVATION.

REQUIREMENTS THAT SHALL BE ADHERED TO, AND THAT COULD BE LOCAL. A RB REQUIREMENTS THAT SHALL BE ADHERED TO. SO IN A COMMUNITY WHERE WE HAVE CHALLENGES WITH RESALE AND REAL ESTATE TAXES. AND THANKS OF THIS NATURE ONE MAY SEE THIS AS ADDITIONAL. LAYER OF CHALLENGE.

AND SO I JUST ASKED THAT YOU BE COGNIZANT OF THAT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME THIS EVENING. ALRIGHT.

THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, SEEING NO OTHER HANDS THIS PUBLIC HEARING HIS CLOTHES. NEXT I GO TO COUNSELING COOPER, IF I KNOW YOU HAVE A QUESTION FOR MR PATTERSON, I SURE DO. THANK YOU . MR MAYOR. MR PATTERSON. I WAS A BIT TAKEN ABACK. BUT YOUR CLAIM THAT THE, UH LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT WOULD AH CREATE, UH. SPECIAL HURDLES FOR SOMEBODY WHO WANTED TO, UH REHAB NATIONAL REGISTER BUILDING. AH ISN'T IT TRUE THAT THE DEPARTMENT OF HISTORIC RESOURCES HAS ITS OWN STANDARDS FOR AH EXTERIOR CHANGES IF THE PROPERTY OWNER WANTS TO QUALIFY? P IMPROVEMENTS FOR FEDERAL HISTORIC TAX CREDITS. YES, THAT'S TRUE. AND ISN'T IT ALSO TRUE THAT THOSE STANDARDS THAT THE DEVELOPERS HAVE TO MEET IN ORDER TO GET THOSE HISTORIC TAX CREDITS. THEY ARE AT LEAST AS RIGOROUS IF NOT A LOT MORE THAN THE UH, STANDARDS OF THE LOCAL HISTORIC, UH, IMPOSED BY THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD FOR BUILDINGS IN LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICTS. THAT'S TRUE. THANK YOU. UH DO YOU WANT ME TO CLARIFY WHAT UP? MY STATEMENT WAS? YES. OKAY. UH I'M PRETTY MUCH LOOKING AT WHOEVER COULD OWN A PIECE OF THESE PRODUCTS.

THESE PROPERTIES THAT MAY NOT HAVE THE WHEREWITHAL TO PROPERLY MAINTAIN AND BETWEEN THEIR OWNERSHIP AND THE NEXT PERSON THAT ACTUALLY CAN AFFORD TO REHAB. IT. THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. CERTAIN PROPERTIES SUCH AS THE ONE THAT I OWNED. CAN BE EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE TO MAINTAIN UNTIL THEY'RE ABLE TO, UH. RENOVATE THE PLACE, BUT IF YOU KEPT THE WINDOW SAYS SHE'S

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I'M VERY UPSET THAT AN INDIVIDUAL HAS A HOUSE. CERTAIN PEOPLE HAVE PROPERTIES AND NO ONE HAS CONTACTED THEM. THEY D EVEN SAY LOOK, YOU MAY BE PUT ON THE NATIONAL HISTORIC REGISTERS LISTS, WHICH IS WRONG. AND WHAT HAVE YOU UH, SO THE IN A NUTSHELL. AH! MR MAYOR, WHO CHOSE. THE PROPERTY IS THE HOMES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. WHAT DID THAT DID THAT COME FROM THE HISTORICAL PEOPLE? OR WHO DID IT COME FROM? UM, MR ALMOND, YOU WANT TO CHIME IN THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE ON THE LIST OR THOSE THAT ARE LISTED IN THE NATIONAL REGISTER HERE IN THE CITY, BUT AREN'T PART OF A HISTORIC DISTRICT AND ESTABLISHED LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT. OKAY? WE KNOW UH WHERE. THE WILLIAMS BUILDING. UM GARRET, CAN YOU PUT UP THOSE PROPERTIES, PLEASE? THANK YOU. I JUST, YOU KNOW, JUST THIS IS KIND OF WHEN I WHEN I READ THE PACKET WHEN WE GOT THE PACK, AND I WAS JUST LOOKING THROUGH IT. I JUST WANT TO WAIT TILL THE MEETING INSTEAD OF JUST TRYING TO GO AROUND TO THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS AND ACTS. YOU KNOW WHY THIS BUILDING WHY THAT BUILDING THINGS THAT MAY CAUSE WE EVEN HAVE A DEVELOPED IS WORKING ON ONE OF THE BUILDINGS, SO YOU'RE GONNA CHANGE. WE'RE GONNA PUT THIS ON THIS BUILDING . HE'S IN THE PROCESS OF DEVELOPING HIS BUILDING RIGHT NOW HAS SPENT $60,000 ON THE ROOF. HE'S ON THE INSIDE DOING SOME H VAC STUFF. SO YOU'RE GONNA CHANGE RIGHT AWAY IN MIDSTREAM, WHICH ISN'T FAIR. YOU KNOW, SO. THIS RIGHT HERE CAN BE VERY COSTLY TO ANYBODY WHO PURCHASES THE BUILDING. SO. YOU KNOW, IF YOU LOOK AT PETERSBURG THE WHOLE CITY IS IT IS IT IS HISTORIC. WE WANTED THE OLDEST CITIES IN THE IN THE CITY. SO. SO WE CAN'T. I MEAN, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE ONE WITH ALL THE LISTED ON THERE. WITH EVERYTHING. OH, OH, OKAY. I SEE IT ON THE PAGE. OH, OKAY.

COUNCILMAN COPTER. COUNSELING CARPENTER IF I MAY, MR MAYOR, UM HOW? BECAUSE I SEE. I SEE YOUR NAME IS ON ON THE ATTACHMENT. HOW DID YOU COME UP WITH THESE? I GUESS. THAN ME. WELL, A COUPLE OF THINGS ONE I DIDN'T COME UP WITH A LIST OF THESE ARE NATIONAL REGISTER PROPERTIES.

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HOW IS THIS LIST PUT TOGETHER UM GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. CAN YOU HEAR ME? UM YES. SO WHEN THE REQUEST WAS RECEIVED BY STAFF, I REVIEWED IT AND WRITE. THEIR REQUEST WAS RECEIVED BY STAFF WHO WAS REQUESTED BY COUNCILMAN. COMFORT OKAY, UM, I WENT OVER THE LIST THAT HAD HE HAD ATTACHED TO THE INFORMATION AND NOTICED THAT IT WAS OUTDATED AND WENT TO OUR DEPARTMENT OF HISTORIC RESOURCES WEBSITE TO CONFIRM WHICH PROPERTIES ARE WERE CORRECT ON THE LIST AND WHICH ONES HAD BEEN ADDED TO THE LIST SINCE IT WAS LAST MADE. UM THE DEPARTMENT OF HISTORIC RESOURCES KEEPS THAT INFORMATION . IT GOES THROUGH THE STATE AND ITS BEEN AS APPROVED BY THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE. UM AND I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ONLY HAD THE PROPERTIES THAT WERE OUTSIDE OF OUR LOCAL DISTRICTS. SO WE DO HAVE QUITE A FEW PROPERTIES INDIVIDUALLY ON THE NATIONAL REGISTER THAT ARE CURRENTLY UNDER THE PURVIEW OF THE ARCHITECTURE OF THE BOARD.

OKAY THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. AND I'M NOT. I'M NOT SAYING ANYTHING TO TRY TO. I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHERE DID IT DERIVED FROM? AND WHAT HAVE YOU AND THAT'S NO POINT INTENDED, BECAUSE I KNOW HOW WE ALL FEEL ABOUT OUR HISTORY OR ANYTHING. YOU KNOW WHAT WOULD COUNSEL YOU KNOW? WE LOVE OUR HISTORY AND I'M NOT TRYING TO STOP, BUT I JUST HELP OF SOME HEARTBURN WITH INDIVIDUALS NOT BEING NOTIFIED, AND LIKE YOU HAVE TO TRAIL WAY ON HERE, AND WE KNOW THAT'S HISTORIC IN NATURE, BECAUSE YOU KNOW AFRICAN AMERICANS, YOU KNOW. THE WAY WE WERE UNABLE TO OKAY, CATCH THE BUS AND TRAINS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. BUT YOU HAVE A DEVELOPER WHO BOUGHT THE BUILDING WHO SPENT $60,000 ON THE ROOF WHO'S WORKING ON THE H BACK AND ALL THAT. AND THEN? SO WHAT DOES THAT DO? YOU KNOW, YOU GOT A GENTLEMAN WHO'S LIVING IN A HOME. WHO'S YOU KNOW WHAT DOES THAT DO? YOU KNOW, I CAN UNDERSTAND IF SOMETHING WAS ALREADY ON THERE, SO WE JUST GOT TO LOOK AT THIS THING HOLISTICALLY. AND BECAUSE THEY HAVE IT UP ENRICHMENT. THAT DON'T MEAN THAT WE HAVE TO IMPLEMENT. I'M PRETTY SURE IT'S MORE THIS ON THAT LIST. MAYBE.

AND WHAT HAVE YOU? I DON'T WANT US TO GET INTO GETTING THE PLACE WHERE WE CAN'T GET DEVELOPERS HERE, AND THAT'S SAYING WE'RE TRYING TO DEVELOP. UH, ANY PARTICULAR UH, PARCEL OR ANYTHING? BUT WE CAN'T DEVELOP IT BECAUSE IT'S ON THAT LIST. AND THEN WE HAVE MESSED AROUND AND IT JUST BE SITTING AND SITTING AND IDLING. SO UM, I DO KNOW THE BENEFITS THAT COME WITH IT BECAUSE YOU CAN'T GET HISTORICAL ATTACKS. CRITICS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. SO TO CLARIFY YES PROPERTIES WOULD ALREADY QUALIFIED FOR HISTORIC TAX CREDITS. YEAH I'M TALKING ABOUT IN GENERAL. YEAH THANK YOU . SO THANK YOU, MR BAIL, COUNSELOR COVER, BUT NO, I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THIS ANGLE. DORIA. THANK YOU. OKAY? MR MAYOR, 11 OTHER THING.

IF WE ARE TO VOTE TONIGHT, I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THEM ONE AT A TIME. THERE WAS A LIST THAT YOU HEAD UP. UM, MR TABLE. THAT'S THAT'S THE LIST. I WANT UP. THE PRESENTATION. IF WE ARE TO LOOK AT THIS. TONIGHT. IF WE'RE GOING TO VOTE ON THIS, AND I WANT TO TAKE THEM ONE AT A TIME. AND NOT COLLECTIVELY ALTOGETHER. MR MAYOR. I THINK THE QUESTION IS EXPLAIN TO THE COUNCIL WITH THE BENEFIT. OF THIS WILL BE TWO. EITHER THE CITY PIECE BERG OR THOSE WHO OWN THESE PARTICULAR PROPERTIES. SO, MR TABLE. WHAT IS THE BENEFIT? UM I GUESS THE BENEFIT WOULD BE TO PROTECT THE HISTORIC INTEGRITY OF THE PROPERTIES. MHM AND REQUIRE THAT ANY EXTERIOR CHANGES BE REVIEWED AND APPROVED BY THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD. MR MAYOR, MAY I ALSO ASK THAT QUESTION OF COUNCILMAN MIND? WELL, I'M GONNA TAKE ONE IN PARTICULAR SUTHERLAND HOUSE. HMM

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UM. IS A SUBSTANTIAL DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT AND THE STATE AND FEDERAL EXAMPLE. MY BUILDING WAS STATE FEDERAL. IT WAS NOT LOCAL. IN OTHER WORDS, THE LOCAL RB COULDN'T DICTATE WHAT I DID WITH THE BUILDING. AND AS LONG AS I PAID CASH, I WAS ABLE TO DO WHATEVER I WANT, BECAUSE FEDERAL AND STATE IF YOU GO FOR TAX CREDITS, YOU HAVE TO DO IT THE WAY THEY WANT IT. AH, SO THESE PROPERTIES THAT ARE UP HERE ARE NOT CONTROLLED BY LOCAL SO THEY CAN DO WHATEVER THEY WANT TO THEIR PROPERTIES. I UNDERSTAND THE REASON WHY THEY WANT TO PUT THIS INTO OUR PURVIEW IS TO GIVE US SOME CONTROL OVER WHAT THEY DO TO THE EXTERIOR OF THE HOMES.

LOCAL DOES NOT CONTRIBUTE TO THE INTERIOR OF THE HOMES. AH! I CAN LIKE, FOR INSTANCE, PLAN FOR CHURCH. I MEAN, TO PUT THAT ON THE LOCAL IS NOT GOING TO BE A PROBLEM BECAUSE THAT CHURCH HAS BEEN MAINTAINED PROPERLY FOR YEARS AND YEARS TO COME. UM BUT MY FEAR AND SOMETHING AS LARGE AS WHAT I HAD OWNED. ALRIGHT COULD END UP BEING PUT INTO DISREPAIR BECAUSE NOBODY'S GONNA WANT TO TOUCH IT. FOR AN INVESTMENT IF THEY HAVE TO DO THE MAIN MAINTENANCE UP TO WHAT THE AIR B IS GOING TO REQUIRE THEM TO DO. I DID THE MAINTENANCE ON IT, AND I KEPT IT TIGHT, KEPT IT DRY. BY DOING IT THE WAY I COULD AFFORD TO DO IT IF I HAD TO GO THROUGH WHAT THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE LOCAL A RB WAS, I WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN ABLE TO MAINTAIN IT TO THAT POINT. SO THE LOCAL HAS A LOT STRICTER. REQUIREMENTS IN THAT FACT THAT IT DOESN'T MATTER. WHAT THE COST IS. WE HAVE TO KEEP THE BUILDING UP TO THE WAY IT'S SUPPOSED TO, AND WE HAVE TO FOLLOW NATIONAL PARKS DEPARTMENT OF INTERIOR'S AND D. H. R S. GUIDELINES AND REQUIREMENTS. OKAY OKAY. I UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT YOU SAY. BUT TO ME, IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE CONTRADICTING YOURSELF. AND BECAUSE ARE YOU FOR OR AGAINST IT? I'M FOR SOME OF THESE PROPERTIES TO BE IN THERE, WHICH IS ONLY A SPATTERING OF THEM. UH I'M AGAINST IT WHEN IT COMES TO THE LARGER STRUCTURE BECAUSE I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A DISADVANTAGE. IT'S GOING TO BECOME ANOTHER TIP. MISS OPTICAL BUILDING. IF WE PUT THIS RESTRICTION ON IT. I THINK WE'RE MUCH BETTER OFF NOT HAVING THAT RESTRICTION. ON CERTAIN STRUCTURES. MR MAYOR FORD COUNCIL GOES TOO FAR ON THE DISCUSSION. I THINK THE MANAGER WANTED TO ADD SOMETHING. MR CITY MANAGER. ONE GIVEN THE FACT THAT WE'VE HEARD FROM SOME THAT EITHER THEY DIDN'T RECEIVE NOTICE OR RECEIVE NOTICE LATE COUNCILS INTERESTED IN MOVING FORWARD THIS I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE TABLE THE MATTER. AND RE NOTIFY EVERYONE TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE HAS PROPER NOTICE GIVEN IN A MANNER TO CONDUCT ANOTHER PUBLIC AREAS. SUBJECT SERVICE, SO CONSIDER UNLIKE THE TABLE 2ND 2ND VICE MAYOR HILL.

ALL RIGHT. ADAM CLAIRE, CAN YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? MR MAYOR IS THAT WOULD THAT BE A TABLE TO A SPECIFIC DATE SUCH AS OUR BUSINESS MEETING IN APRIL, THE SECOND MEETING IN APRIL SO WE CAN ENSURE THAT WE ADVERTISE IT CORRECTLY. I WOULDN'T SAY THAT. I WOULD SAY. LET OFF. THAT THE COUNCIL. DETERMINED THAT TIME AND WE'LL GET WITH THE MAYOR AND THAT THE MAYOR MAKE THAT TIME BECAUSE WE GOT TO KIND OF DIGEST THIS. THIS IS A LOT. AS THE MOTION OR I WOULD AGREE WITH MY SECOND WHAT. I JUST HATE TO IT SOUNDS LIKE PASSED BY INDEFINITELY, WHICH WE IF YOU WANT ME, I WILL SAY THEN P B. I BRINGS UP BAD MEMORIES. UM WHAT ABOUT THE BUSINESS MEETING IN MAY THEN BUT THAT GIVES EVERYBODY ENOUGH TIME. I'M NOT TRYING TO RAM RODE THIS THING

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ALRIGHT, I'LL SAY YOUR NAME. COUNCILMAN JONES SECOND. ALL RIGHT, AND THAT'S THE TABLE UNTIL THIS BUSINESS MEETING AND SECOND BUSINESS MEETING IN MAY. THE SECOND MEETING. HE DISCUSSION. IF NOT, MADAM. QUESTIONS. PLEASE CALL THE ROLLL MEMBER JONES COUNCIL MEMBER SMITH LEE HIGH COUNCIL MEMBER MYERS COUNCIL MEMBER WESTBROOK. VICE MAYOR HILL NO. MAYOR PERM.

MOTIONS PASSED. ALL RIGHT. NEXT WE HAVE ITEM F, WHICH IS A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE ORDINANCE.

CONSIDERATION OF ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER CITY ATTORNEY TO TAKE ALL NECESSARY ACTION TO FACILITATE THE CONVENIENCE OF THE EASEMENT TO DOMINION ENERGY AT 1 25 UNION STREET Y D 011-250. GOOD EVENING MAYOR, VICE MAYOR MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. THIS AGENDA ITEM IS TO, UM CONVEY AN EASEMENT TO DEMEAN ENERGY. AT THE 1 25 NORTH UNION STREET. LOCATION THIS IS IN RELATION TO THE PETERSBURG HOTEL. ALL RIGHT. ALRIGHT. I OPENED UP THE FLOOR, THEN FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING. THIS IS THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE. HE'S MEANT TO DOMINION ENERGY AT 1 25 NORTH UNION STREET ANY HANDS IN THE PUBLIC HEARING. ON 1 25. SEEING NINE. THIS PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED. UM ANY DISCUSSION FROM MEMBERS OF COUNCIL I ENTERTAIN A MOTION AT THIS TIME FOR THE EASEMENT. ALRIGHT, ALRIGHT. UM THIS, UM. COUNCILOR JONES WANTS YOU TO EXPLAIN THE EASEMENT AND WHY DOMINION NEEDS NEEDS THIS PAST TO RUN POWER TO HOTEL PETERS, MAN. OKAY, SO AS YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE THE FENCED IN AREA, UM, CURRENTLY ADJACENT TO SEE THE HOLE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE BRICK WALL, UM, IN ORDER TO GRANT POWER. TO THE HOTEL. DOMINION ENERGY IS REQUESTING.

UH THAT EASEMENT AND THE DRAWING IF YOU SCROLL DOWN, GARRETT. THE PHOTO, OR THE LAYOUT IS, UH, OKAY. IT'S RIGHT HERE. OKAY, SO THAT BLUE RECTANGLE. IT IS. WHERE THE. AREA OF THE PARKING LOT IS SCREENED OFF. AND SO ALSO WE FOUND THAT IN WORKING WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY, WE ALSO DETERMINED THAT DOMINION ENERGY HAS A FRANCHISE AGREEMENT WITH. THE CITY OF PETERSBURG THAT GOES BACK TO I WANT TO SAY 1930. AND SEE THE TOURNIQUET ADDRESS THAT BETTER THAN I CAN. JUST IN IN OVER 20 YEARS OF DOING THIS IS PROBABLY THE OLDEST FRANCHISE AGREEMENT I'VE COME ACROSS. WE PROBABLY WANT TO VISIT UPDATING THAT WAS DOMINION AND I'VE DROPPED THE WORD TO THEM SAYING THAT WE'D LIKE TO LOOK AT. BUT ASIDE FROM THAT IT IS STILL EFFECTIVE. SO I THINK THAT THE COUNCIL CHOOSES TO PROCEED. THERE'S NO LEGAL IMPEDIMENTS DOING SO. WITH REGARD TO THE EASEMENT. THAT'S CERTAINLY COUNCILS OPTIONS SINCE IT IS ON OUR PROPERTY THAT ALRIGHTY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. COUNSELOR JONES. ALRIGHT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION AT THIS TIME. COUNCILOR MYERS MOVIE. COUNCILOR WESTBROOK. MADAM CLERK. COULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? REMEMBER CUTHBERT STAINED, THE CITY ATTORNEY TELLS ME I HAVE TO SAY WHY. AND THE REASON IS THAT THIS IS MY BROTHER'S HOTEL. AND, UH, HOTEL PROJECT AND TECHNICALLY, IT'S NOT AS A

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ALRIGHT SO WE'LL OPEN UP THE FLOOR NOW FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING. AND THIS IS FOR CONSIDERATION ORDINANCE. AUTHORIZING. THE AMENDING OF THE FY 23 BUDGET TO APPROPRIATE ADDITIONAL LOCAL MATCH FUNDING TO PETERSBURG PUBLIC SCHOOLS. NO MATTER $1,665,419 AS WELL AS ADDITIONAL STATE AID RECEIVED FOR THE PETERSBURG LIBRARY IN THE AMOUNT OF $43,178. IN THE HANDS FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING. YES, MA'AM. YOU BET WILSON 234 HI ST PETERSBURG, VIRGINIA. I'M

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THEY EXPLAINED THEY HAD ABOUT THREE MILLION. SURPLUSES SOMETHING HADN'T BEEN SPENT. BUT THEY NEEDED THIS. HOW DOES THIS ADD UP WITH THAT AMOUNT? THAT Y'ALL Y'ALL SPOKE ABOUT LAST TUESDAY. RIGHT, SEEING NO OTHER HANDS. UM, LET'S CIRCLE BACK TO MISS JORDAN'S UM. 0.2, UM, ANSWER MR STEWART'S QUESTION. SO FOR FISCAL YEAR 23 WE GAVE US SCHOOLS SCHOOLS $10 MILLION. WE GAVE THEM ADDITIONAL 190,000 FOR THE Y M C. A B ALSO, UM, DID A RESOLUTION TO GIVE THEM A MILLION DOLLARS TO FOR THE FIELD. UM THIS IS ADDITIONAL LOCAL MATCH REQUIREMENT, HOWEVER IT AS I EXPLAINED LAST WEEK TO COUNSEL, YOU DO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY GIVEN US AMOUNT OF MONEY. YOU CAN SUBTRACT WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE FROM OUR REQUIREMENTS AND JUST DO THE REST, WHICH WILL BE ABOUT 500,000 IS NOT FOUR. AND WITH THAT WAY, IT'S UP TO YOU. THE THREE MILLION THOUGH, UM, STARTED YOU WERE REFERENCING, I THINK WAS AROUND THE LINE OF CREDIT THAT THEY WERE ASKING FOR. ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS FROM HIS JORDANS? COUNCILMAN COOPER. HAVE WE CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING, MR MAYOR, PUBLIC HEARING HIS CLOTHES. I MOVE THAT COUNCIL APPROPRIATE. THE $43,178 FOR THE PETERSBURG LIBRARY. AND TABLE THE ISSUE OF THE APPROPRIATION OF 1,000,665. 1004 $119 UNTIL COUNCIL'S BUSINESS MEETING ON APRIL 18 2023. SO AS TO ALLOW TIME FOR COUNCIL. TO EXPLORE A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD. COUNSELING WESTBROOK, 2ND 2ND AND A DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION. THE NINE. MADAME CLARK, CAN YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? COUNCILOR BECAUSE ROBERT JONES SMITH LEE HIGH COUNCIL MEMBER, MYERS COUNCIL MEMBER WESTBROOK, VICE MARY HILL MAYOR. PERM MOTIONS PASSED. NEXT ITEM, I'LL PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION OF APPROPRIATION ORDINANCE FOR THE ALLOCATION OF THE SECOND TRENCH OF THE OPERA FUNDING PROVIDED TO THE CITY OF PETERSBURG. LET'S JOIN. GOOD EVENING AGAIN. GOOD EVENING COUNSELOR HAD PREVIOUSLY APPROVED. THE SECOND TAB, PLEASE GARRETT. THE SECOND TAB, PLEASE. AT THE BOTTOM, YES. THANK YOU.

COUNCIL HAD PREVIOUSLY APPROVED THE FIRST TRENCH. UM AND ALLOCATED AS SUCH TWO DIFFERENT , UH, LOST REVENUE INFRASTRUCTURE, PUBLIC SAFETY AS WELL AS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. SO THIS IS THE SECOND PIECE THAT WE RECEIVED. THAT HAS TO BE APPROPRIATE AS WELL. UM THE

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YES OKAY, THANKS. RIGHT AND OTHER QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT. SCENE NINE. MADAM CLERK. CAN YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL COUNCIL MEMBER, CUTHBERT? REMEMBER JONES? OF STAYING. I DON'T. I AGREE WITH SOME OF THESE NUMBERS AND I'M STILL NEW ON THIS THING, SO I WANT TO JUST SIT BACK ON THIS MORNING. I GOT A LOT OF QUESTIONS. COUNCIL MEMBER SMITH LEE, COUNSELOR FOR MYERS, COUNCIL MEMBER WESTBROOK, VICE MAYOR HILL. MAYOR PERM PAST. NEXT IS ITEM J. A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION FOR ORDINANCE TO AMEND THE RE ADOPT THE PETERSBURG CITY CODE TO ADD CHAPTER 21 TO CREATE AN ARTS COUNCIL. COUNCILMAN. PLIERS. YES, SIR. MR. MAYOR, UM. REMOVE THAT WE ADOPT. THOUGHT YOU WANTED TO GIVE SOME BACKGROUND. UM I GOT TO DO A PUBLIC HEARING YOUR PUBLIC HEARING, SIR. WE'LL GET SOME BACKGROUND. WELL YEAH LITTLE BACKGROUND IS TO CREATE AN ARTS COUNCIL TO HELP US TO MAKE DECISIONS WITH RESPECT TO HOW, UM THE ARTS WOULD EMPOWER OUR CITIZENS AND CREATE, UM, COMMUNITY AWARENESS FOR THE ARTS IN DOWNTOWN AND THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF PETERSBURG. ALRIGHT THIS IS THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE ARTS COUNCIL AND IN 11 TO SPEAK ON THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE ARTS COUNCIL. SAYING NO HANDS. BECAUSE PUBLIC HEARING HIS CLOTHES NEXT WE'LL GO TO DISCUSSION BY MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. UM COUNCILMAN WESTBROOK. MAY I MOVE THAT WE APPROVED THE ADOPTION CONSIDERATION OF THE ORDINANCE FOR THE CREATIVE ARTS COUNCIL. OKAY WE HAVE MOTION, UM VICE MARY HILL. ALRIGHT. COUNCILMAN SMITH LEE SECOND, ALRIGHT MOTION THE SECOND DISCUSSION IF NOT MADAM CLERK. CAN YOU PLEASE CALL

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[9. Public Information Period]

O'CLOCK NOON. THE DAY OF THE MEETING BE SECOND IN CHRONOLOGICAL ORDER OF THEIR SIGN UP PERSONS WHO HAVE SIGNED THE SIGN UP SHEET PLACED BY THE CLERK IN THE REAR OF THE MEETING ROOM PRIOR TO THE MEETING REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA. AND AT THIS TIME WE HAVE TO START OFF WITH MR RICHARD STEWART. MAYOR PERM CITY COUNCIL AND MY NAME IS STUDENT 1 29 ROSE STREET. THE LAST TIME I WAS HERE, AND I HEARD CITY COUNCIL AND IN THE SCHOOL BOARD TALK. I WAS VERY EXCITED. BUT I LOOK AT THE PROGRESS INDEX AND I SEE ALL THESE MAIN EVENTS, THINGS HAPPENING. BUSINESS DOWNTOWN STORE DOWNTOWN. ABOUT SO MANY DIFFERENT THINGS. AND I WAS SAYING IF THE PUBLIC KNEW THIS WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAD WHAT YOU CALL A STATE OF THE UNION ADDRESS. COULD WE HAVE A STATE OF THE CITY ADDRESS? THAT COULD COULD INVITE CITIZEN AND WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD AND CITY COUNCIL TO ANSWER QUESTIONS FROM THEM AND TO EXPLAIN TO THEM THE MANY THINGS THAT YOU ALL HAVE ACHIEVED. COULD YOU DO THAT? SOMETHING LIKE A STATE OF THE CITY? THINK YOU KNOW THE MAYOR MIGHT HAVE TO DO IT AND ALL THE CITY ALL THE CITY COUNCIL'S THERE, BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE THE PERFECT THING BECAUSE YOU ALL ALONG THE RIGHT LINE. THE OTHER THING THAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IS SPEED AND PETERSBURG AND VIOLENCE BECAUSE MR MARLOWE OUT OF NIGHT TOOK MY TEARS BECAUSE HE CRIED ABOUT SOMEBODY THAT IN HIS IN HIS ORGANIZATION THAT SOME CHILD GOT KILLED. IS ANYTHING BEEN DONE TO IMPROVE UPON THE SAFETY OF PETERSBURG AND NECESSARY BECAUSE IT BOTHERED ME AND I SAID, WOW, I HOPE SOMETHING WILL BE DONE, AND THAT'S SPEED. DON'T CREATE A ROAD AND SOUTH KOREA ROAD AND SYCAMORE STREET AND A LOT OF PLACES. I KNOW THE POLICEMAN AND STATE TROOPS ARE DOING THE BEST THEY CAN. ANY OTHER THINKING HAPPEN TO HELP TO IMPROVE TO STOP THE SPEEDING DOWN THEM STREETS BECAUSE SOMEBODY'S GONNA GET KILLED. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT, UM TWO RAIL SNEED.

RIGHT, LEFT OUT, UM MS FRIDA GREENHOUSE. LEFT HERE. OKAY NEXT, PETE STIFF. FAIRFIELD FOR YOUR CENTER. HOW YOU DOING, MR STIFF? THE MAYOR. ALRIGHT, COUNSEL AND CITY MANAGER. I HAVEN'T SEEN YOU IN A WHILE. MR. MYERS HAVEN'T SEEN YOU IN A WHILE. I'M NOT FROM PETERSBURG, BUT I EAT ENOUGH AT CHURCHES AND THE KROGER SPOT. I THINK YOU OUGHT TO JUST MAKE ME AN HONORARY CITIZEN. GIVE ME A KEY TO THIS PLACE SO I CAN COME ANYTIME I WANT TO. AH I'M HERE BECAUSE I WANT TO INTRODUCE SOME OF YOU PRESENT TO OTHERS. THE NEW DIRECTOR OF THE VOYAGE CENTER. BUT BEFORE I DO THAT, AND I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO GIVE HER HER WHOLE THREE MINUTES AND NOT FOR ON MINE, BUT, UH DOROTHY FREEMAN WANT ME TO TELL YOU, MR MAYOR, HOW MUCH WE APPRECIATE YOU BEING ON OUR BOARD AND WE LOOK FOR YOU TO COME BACK. WE'VE ALSO BROUGHT YOU SOME NICE PEANUTS. THEY'RE NOT NORTH CAROLINA PEANUTS. THESE ARE VIRGINIA PEANUTS, AND AFTER YOU EAT THEM, PUT THAT EMPTY PACK ON YOUR REFRIGERATOR WITH THE MAGNET SO YOU CAN SEE AND REMIND YOURSELF OF THE FOUR H CENTER AND COME SEE US SOMETIME. AND BEFORE I INTRODUCE MR GILMAN, DR GUINAN FROM FLORIDA. I WANT TO TELL YOU I WISH YOU GOOD LUCK ON THE CASINO. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MR STEPH. ALL RIGHT, MISS. KATHY WELCOME TO PETERSBURG. CONGRATULATIONS THANK YOU. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. MR CHAIR AND COUNCIL MEMBER. SO YES, I AM KATHY GINNED IN THE NEW DIRECTOR AT THE AIRFIELD FOR H CENTER. I'VE BEEN I MOVED HERE 27 YEARS I SPENT IN THE TAMPA BAY AREA OF FLORIDA SO THIS IS QUITE DIFFERENT. BUT I MISS THE SEASONS AND I ABSOLUTELY LOVE BEING HERE AND BEING AT THE AIRFIELD FOR AGED CENTER AND I SERVE YOU AND YOUR CITIZENS OF THE PETERSBURG AREA. SO UM, AGAIN. I WANT TO THANK YOU, MAYOR FOR I'VE LEARNED YOU USED TO BE ON OUR BOARD OF DIRECTORS AND I DEFINITELY WANT TO INTRODUCE OUR FOUR H EXTENSION

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SO MY BIG VISION. RIGHT ONE. THE FOUR H CENTER IS A IS A CAMP. IT IS FIRST AND FOREMOST OF RESIDENTIAL SUMMER CAMP FOR KIDS TONIGHT, SITTING HERE. I LEARNED THAT SOMEONE IN THIS ROOM SAID THE GREATEST ASSET IN PETERSBURG IS OUR YOUTH. FOUR H S TO TAKE OUR YOUTH AND HELP CREATE TOMORROW'S LEADERS. THEY ARE THE PEOPLE WHO WILL BE SITTING IN YOUR CHAIR. SOMEDAY I'VE HEARD THE TEENAGE CRIME IS A PROBLEM IN PETERSBURG. GUESS WHAT? LET'S GET THEM INVOLVED IN FOUR H. WE CAN GET THOSE HANDS BUSY DOING GOOD THINGS AND HELPING TO SERVE AND GIVE BACK TO THE COMMUNITY.

AND THE BEST WAY TO DO THAT IS TO EXPOSE THEM TO FOUR H AND I JUST LEARNED AS MY NEW ROLE HERE. THAT ABOUT 50% OF THE YOUTH GET EXPOSED TO FOUR H BY COMING TO SUMMER CAMP. OUR CAMP HAS NOT BEEN FILLED IN A VERY LONG TIME. MR MUMBLES HAS WE'VE GOT 176 BUNKS TO FILL FOR THE WEEK THAT PETERSBURG YOUTH ARE AT THE CENTER AND I AM WILLING TO WORK WITH YOU IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM TO TRY AND GET YOUTH HERE. I DON'T BELIEVE THERE IS A SHORTAGE OF CHILDREN IN THE 16 JURISDICTIONS THAT THE AIRFIELD CENTER SERVES. AND I AM SUPER EXCITED TO BE HERE, AND I'VE ACTUALLY COME TO PETERSBURG ON SOME FRIDAY EVENING. SOME OF MY NEW FRIENDS I'VE MET LIVE HERE. THEY'RE TRYING TO RECRUIT ME TO SOME OF THESE NEIGHBORHOODS I'VE BEEN HEARING ABOUT. UM SECOND, WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO OUR EXCELLENT CUSTOMER SERVICE FOR OUR CONFERENCE AND RETREAT CENTERS. YOU CAN COME ON OUT AND VISIT. I'VE ACTUALLY ONE OF YOU UP THERE HAS ALEX REALLY COME OUT AND VISIT IT ALREADY HELPING US OUT AND TRYING TO IMPROVE OUR CENTER. AND THEN MOVING FORWARD. I REALLY WANT TO MAKE AIRFIELD A DESTINATION TO DESTINATION FOR YOU, OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES, THE REGIONAL BUSINESSES, TOURISTS, CITIZENS TO COME OUT, AND WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE NEW AND ENGAGING ENVIRONMENTAL EDUCATION PROGRAMS FOR PEOPLE OF ALL AGES . WE'VE GOT 200 ACRES OF WOODS, 100 ACRES OF WATER. I FIRMLY BELIEVE IT'S A REALLY, REALLY BEAUTIFUL PLACE. THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW IS EXISTING NOT VERY FAR FROM HERE. UM SO IT TAKES A TEAM AND I'M NOW PART OF YOUR TEAM. I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU AND TRYING TO GET SOME MORE FOLKS OUT THE AIRFIELD AND SERVING IN ANY WAY THAT WE CAN. IF YOU'RE EVER IN THE AREA, PLEASE STOP APPLY. STOPPED BY VISIT WILL GIVE YOU A TOUR WILL GIVE YOU LUNCH. UM WE'LL DO WHATEVER WE CAN, AND I'M THANKFUL TO BE PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH, KATHY AND LOOKING AND THANK YOU. WE FINALLY HAVE AN EXTENSION AGENT THAT CHANGES THINGS IN PETERSBURG. PLEASE STAND UP. PLEASE THIS IS YOUR PETERSBURG EXTENSION AGENT RIGHT HERE. WELCOME ABOARD, YOU KNOW, FOR WAGE CAN WAS REALLY SPECIAL TO ME. YOU KNOW, I WENT EVERY YEAR IN PETERSBURG. YOU KNOW WHEN YOU KNOW WHEN I WAS A KID PLAYING GAGA AND SHOOTING, ARCHERY AND, UH, THE WATER OLYMPICS. THAT WAS PART OF TEAM, AKA MAC. WENT INTO SPIRIT STICK , SO AS THINGS LIKE THAT I LOVE TO GET, UH OUR KIDS BACK OUTSIDE AND AWAY FROM TV AND SOCIAL MEDIA AND ALL THAT STUFF, SO IT CREATES SOME GREAT ACTIVITIES AND THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR COMMITMENT TO SERVE IN OUR YOUTH. AND PLEASE, UM STEPH. MAKE SURE THAT THEY GET MY INFORMATION SO WE CAN CONNECT THEM WITH OUR PARKS AND RECS DIRECTOR, MR MARQUEES ALLEN.

HE'S NOT HERE TONIGHT. WELL, NOT HERE. RIGHT? WHERE HE'S NOT HERE TONIGHT, BUT I WANT TO CONNECT THAT BECAUSE HE'S WORKING WITH OUR YOUTH AND LONG WITH INCORPORATING SCHOOLS BECAUSE WE ALL ABOUT PROVIDING AS MANY ACTIVITIES AS WE CAN FOR YOU. SO THANK YOU AGAIN. NEXT. WE HAVE, UM MR OTIS HILL.

GOOD EVENING. I AM DEAF. MY NAME IS OTIS HILL. I LIVE AT 23. OH, SIX NORTH. WHITE HILL ROAD. I NOTICED THAT THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE THAT ARE DEAF THAT LIVE IN HOUSES. UM. AND THEY HAVE ALARM SYSTEMS FOR SAFETY. UM THEY HAVE A CARBON MONOXIDE. FOR COMMENT. CARBON DYNAMICS DIOXIDE GAS ALARMS FOR SAFETY THAT ARE VERY, VERY IMPORTANT. I CONTACTED THE VIRGINIA

[02:20:05]

GOOD EVENING, MR MAYOR. GOOD EVENING, VICE MAYOR. GOOD EVENING CITY MANAGER. I DID NOT . I ADMITTED YOU THE LAST TIME I'VE SPOKEN. I APOLOGIZE AND GOOD EVENING. ALL MEMBERS OF COUNCIL I'M GONNA LEAD IN BY SAYING 35% 350.9. UH PETERSBURG RESIDENTS ARE OWNER OCCUPANTS BASED ON THE U. S. CENSUS BUREAU. OF THEIR HOMES. 35 0.9% THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OVER A THIRD. OWNER OCCUPANTS OF THEIR HOMES. WHY IS THAT IMPORTANT? ON SATURDAY, APRIL 1ST. FROM 10 A.M. TO 4:30 P.M. WILL BE OFFERING A FIRST TIME HOMEBUYER EDUCATION COURSE RIGHT HERE AT THE LIBRARY ON THE SECOND FLOOR OF THE WELLNESS CENTER. AND IT'S SO IMPORTANT BECAUSE YOU HAVE MANY RESIDENTS WHO ARE WAGE EARNERS WHO HAVE NOT LEARNED THE STEPS NOR THE PROCESSES OF HOMEOWNERSHIP. THEY'VE BEEN BUILT INTO A SUCCESS. RIETI OF BELIEVING RENTAL IS AN ONLY OPTION. AND IT IS TIME FOR THAT TO CEASE NOT ONLY AM I. BORN AND REARED ON THE HIKES AND PETERSBURG CONTRIBUTE A LOT TO MY COMMUNITY. I CONTRIBUTE A LOT TO MY YOUTH, BUT I THINK ONE OF OUR GREATEST ATTRIBUTES TO OUR FAMILIES IS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR HOMEOWNERSHIP. IT IS THE AMERICAN DREAM. IT PROVIDES A SENSE OF BUILDING EQUITY AND LEGACY FOR YOUR FAMILY. SO ONCE AGAIN, THIS COURSE IS FREE. THERE ARE NO CAUSE IT'S SATURDAY. APRIL ONE. HERE. THE

[02:25:08]

SORRY SATURDAY, APRIL 1ST, BUT THIS CLASS IS TO ENCOURAGE OR THIS COURSE, IS TO ENCOURAGE CITY EMPLOYEES. HEALTHCARE WORKERS AT SOUTHSIDE REGIONAL MEDICAL CENTER. AH LAW ENFORCEMENT, UH, FIREFIGHTERS TO LOOK AT HOME OWNERSHIP. THERE ARE MANY IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT EARN A GREAT WAGE BUT HAVE YET TO PURSUE HOMEOWNERSHIP. AND I SAY, REALLY THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS CLASS. IT'S JUST TO LEARN THE PROCESS. YOU KNOW, THERE ARE SO MANY WHO BELIEVE I CAN'T BUY A HOUSE BECAUSE I HAVE BAD CREDIT. AND THERE'S NOTHING FURTHER FROM THE TRUTH. THERE IS A SECOND NOTION. I CAN'T BUY A HOUSE BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE THE PREREQUISITE DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE. WE'LL COME TO THIS COURSE WE'RE OFFERING $12,500 AND DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE. TO THOSE WHO MEET LINDER, ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS AND CREDITWORTHINESS. AND WE'LL GIVE EACH PARTICIPANT OF THIS COURSE A CERTIFICATE OF COMPLETION THAT'S VALID FOR TWO YEARS. I'M NOT NEW TO DOING THESE COURSES HERE IN THE CITY OF PETERSBURG. WE'VE DONE THEM THROUGHOUT THE STATE. BUT I TAKE A PARTICULAR INTEREST IN DOING THESE COURSES AND GIVING OPPORTUNITIES TO THOSE THAT COMMUNITY THAT REARED ME AND LED TO MY SUCCESS, SO IT'S IMPORTANT. TELL YOUR CITY EMPLOYEES CITY MANAGER. THIS IS A FREE CLASS. I HOPE THAT WE'LL SEE A GREAT ATTENDANCE AND I WILL TELL YOU THERE ARE SEVERAL WAYS WHICH YOU CAN REGISTER, BUT I HAVE FORMS THAT ACCOMPANY ME TONIGHT, AND THEY'RE EVEN THERE IS AS SIMPLE AS CLICKING ON THE Q R CODE, YOU KNOW, TOP YOU RIGHT INTO OUR REGISTRATION, SO I WOULD LIKE TO LEAVE SEVERAL MY FORMS ON THE BACK SHEET. YOU CAN SIMPLY QUICK CLICK ON THE Q R CODE. THANK YOU ALL AGAIN FOR YOUR TIME THIS EVENING. ALRIGHT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR RICHARDSON . WE ALWAYS APPRECIATE ALL YOU DO FOR THE CITY OF PETERSBURG.

YOU KNOW WE WAS TOGETHER THEY LAST SUMMER FOR THE FOR THE BASEBALL TEAM THAT YOU SPONSORED THE LITTLE LEAGUERS AND WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMITMENT. UM YOU SEE IN THE BACK, MISS JOANN WHIMS AND YOU CAN TAKE THAT TO HER. WE'LL PUT IT ON OUR WEBSITE AND EVERYTHING AND PROMOTED FOR YOU. AND I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO MISS LUCAS RIGHT NOW. ESTEEM CLERK FOR COMMENT. WELL, I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON MR RICHARDSON'S COMMENTS. UM, ACTUALLY FIVE YEARS AGO ON APRIL 1ST I ATTENDED HIS HOME BUYERS CLASS AT THE PETERBOROUGH AREA TRANSIT , AND TWO MONTHS LATER, I PURCHASED MY HOME. THE CLASSES ARE VERY INFORMATIONAL. UM IT WAS VERY EASY. UM THERE WERE A LOT OF QUESTIONS ASKED BY OTHER PARTICIPANTS AS WELL AS MYSELF. AND YOU GET A BOOK THAT ACTUALLY EXPLAINS. EVERYTHING HAS ALL THE ANSWERS TO IT, BUT IT IS A VERY INFORMATIONAL CLASS AND AGAIN IT HELPED ME PURCHASE MY FIRST HOME. YES. THAT'S A GREAT TESTIMONIAL. THANK YOU, MR RICHARDSON. LOOK, AND ALSO WE HAVE MS MARY HOWARD, TWO OF OUR HOUSING AUTHORITY RIGHT HERE.

YOU CAN GIVE HER ONE AS WELL TO PASS AROUND TO ANYBODY. OKAY OKAY. WE'RE NOT GOING TO ASK FOR A TESTIMONY TONIGHT, ALL RIGHT? ALRIGHT THAT CONCLUDES OUR PUBLIC INFORMATION PERIOD NEXT

[10. Business or reports from the Mayor or other Members of City Council]

[02:30:07]

AND, UM UM, I HAVE FORWARDED THOSE. I TOOK A PHOTOGRAPH OF EACH AND FORWARDED IT ON FORWARDED, FORWARDED THEM ON TO THE CITY ADMINISTRATION. SO WE WEEKEND BRIGHTEN OUR CITY AND I THINK ADDRESS CRIME, UH, IN OUR AH, YOU KNOW, CITY IN THAT FASHION. THE LAST THING I WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS BLIGHT, AND I WOULD ASK MR VAN VORHEES. IF HE WOULD PUT UP ON THE SCREEN.

LET'S START WITH 1 32 SOUTH LITTLE CHURCH STREET. I WANT TO PUT UP SIX BUILDINGS HERE AND JUST LET THE PUBLIC SEE THE CONDITION OF THEM. WHAT? WE CAN START WITH WHAT WE'VE GOT HERE.

THIS IS THE, UH, BELIEVE THAT EAST SIDE OF 3 21 GROVE AVENUE SHOW US THE OTHER OR SHOW THE PUBLIC AND COUNSEL THE OTHER VIEWS. THIS IS THE BACKSIDE OF 3 21 GROVE AVENUE. MR VAN VORHEES.

WHAT IS NEXT? THAT'S THE FRONT. AH YEAH, THE WINDOWS OBVIOUSLY A WIDE OPEN. AT THE FRONT, EVEN AT THE FRONT AND THEN WE'VE GOT THE WEST SIDE. THERE'S THE WEST SIDE. THOSE WINDOWS ON THE SECOND FLOOR ARE WIDE OPEN. THIS IS A REMARKABLE STRUCTURE. YOU STAND IN THE BACKYARD. IF YOU CAN LOOK PAST ALL THE JUNK THAT HAS ACCUMULATED, YOU CAN SEE THE APPOMATTOX RIVER. LET'S GO TO 1 32 SOUTH LITTLE CHURCH STREET IN BLANDFORD. THERE YOU HAVE IT. AH LET'S GO TO 29 LIBERTY STREET.

NOW THIS IS THE BACK OF 29 LIBERTY. NOW WE'VE MOVED INTO WARD FIVE. SO THIS IS THE BACK OF 29 LIBERTY, IF YOU CAN BELIEVE IT. LET'S GO TO THE FRONT, MR VAN BOY, HE SAYS THE FRONT. PERHAPS YOU CAN RECOGNIZE THE FRIDAY I SUSPECT MOST OF US HAVE NOT EVER SEEN THE BACK.

LET'S GO TO 4 30 SOUTH SYCAMORE STREET AGAIN. FIFTH WARD. THIS IS THE BACK OF 4 30, SOUTH SYCAMORE. LET'S GO TO THE FRONT SO THAT PEOPLE CAN THERE IT IS. AH THAT IS 4 30 SOUTH SECOND BALL. YOU SEE ALL THE WINDOWS, MANY OF THE WINDOWPANES KNOCKED OUT. BUT YOU DON'T REALIZE HOW BAD IT IS TO YOU. GO AROUND, WALK AROUND THE BACK. LET'S GO TOWARDS SIX AND TALK ABOUT FATHER THREE DAYS. 505 HALIFAX STREET. YOU'VE GOT THAT HERE IN FRONT OF YOU AND THEN LET'S GO TO 14 91 HALIFAX STREET TODAY YOU HAVE IT. NOW THE BLIGHT YOU'VE SEEN DID NOT DEVELOP OVERNIGHT. AND YET OVER THE MANY YEARS THAT THE BLIGHT YOU'VE JUST SEEN DID DEVELOP. THE CITY ADMINISTRATION HAS NOT ASKED THE COURT TO ORDER THE OWNER TO FIX UP ANY OF THE PROPERTIES THAT I'VE JUST SHOWN YOU. IF NOT BROUGHT A SINGLE ONE OF THEM TO COURT. NOW AT THE BOTTOM LINE IS THROUGHOUT PETERSBURG, AND IT'S NOT JUST IN WARD FOUR. BUT AS YOU SAW, IT'S IN THE BLANDFORD AREA OF WARD FOUR. IT'S IN THE POPULAR LAWN AREA OF WARD FOUR. IT'S IN WARD FIVE. IT'S IN WARD SIX, AND THERE COULD WELL BE OTHER AREAS OF THE CITY. I COULD PROBABLY HMM. BRING FORWARD PHOTOGRAPHS OF 100 BUILDINGS THAT ARE IN PRETTY BAD SHAPE. IF I IF I WENT TO THE TIME TO DO IT BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE THE POINT. THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT THROUGHOUT OUR CITY OUR CITY ADMINISTRATION NEEDS TO ADDRESS BLIGHT MUCH MORE AGGRESSIVELY BY TAKING PROPERTY OWNERS TO COURT.

DOING SO WILL MAKE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD SAFER. IT WILL MAKE OUR NEIGHBORHOODS MORE ATTRACTIVE. IT WILL INCREASE PROPERTY VALUES WITHIN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. IT WILL INCREASE OUR REAL ESTATE REVENUES RECEIVED BY THE CITY. AND IT WILL PRESERVE PETERSBURG'S UNIQUE AND HISTORIC STREETSCAPE. THE ADMINISTRATION JUST HAS TO DO IT. WE'VE GOT TO BRING THESE BUILDINGS TO COURT. BRING THE PROPERTY OWNERS TO COURT OR OTHERWISE. WE'LL JUST HAVE MORE OF THE SAME AND WE'RE GONNA LOSE WHAT? I JUST SHOWED YOU PICTURES OF MR MAYOR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH . I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING MORE. THANK YOU. NEXT, COUNCILMAN JONES. THANK YOU. UM. THANK EVERYBODY FOR SITTING HERE THIS LONG WITH US. I WANT TO START OFF WITH AN APOLOGY TO YOU GUYS

[02:35:01]

AND I REALIZED NOW THERE'S SOME POINTS. YOU GOT TO GET ACROSS SOME TRUTH. FACT DIGGING AND EVERYTHING BEFORE WE COME OUT HERE, AND WE DO NOT WISH TO KEEP YOU GUYS OVER THE TIME PERIOD THAT WE PLAN SO PLEASE WORK WITH US AS WE GET BETTER, BUT WE DON'T WANT TO RUSH. IMPORTANT ISSUES BACK THERE. THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS. SO I APOLOGIZE ON BEHALF OF ME AND EVERYBODY ELSE UP HERE. I HOPE THAT I KNOW THEY FEEL THE SAME WAY. UM I WANT TO ALSO SAY, UH PICK IT BACK OFF.

COUNCILOR CUP BERTH WITH THE BLIGHT I WILL BE INTRODUCING FORM TO COUNCIL NEXT WORK SESSION ON HOW TO EMPOWER CITIZENS TO HELP US IDENTIFY AND REPORT BLIGHT. NOT JUST REGULAR BLIGHT, BUT LIKE THAT WE OWN AS WELL. ALL RIGHT, UM. AND THAT FORM WILL BE GIVEN TO YOU GUYS IF IT'S APPROVED BY US, UM ANOTHER THING I WANT TO ADDRESS THIS, UM CRIME IN THE CITY. FROM DECEMBER 2 2ND UP UNTIL THIS MONTH. WE WENT THAT LONG WITHOUT A HOMICIDE. AND I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE CITIZENS. EXERCISING. UH, COMMON SENSE AND PEACE. TO GO THAT LONG, AND I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. FOR DOING A LOT WITH LITTLE. WE GOTTA GET THAT $8 MILLION.

BUDGET UP TO BACK TO 20. AND SAME THING WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. UH, WORKING ON IT.

UM MY NEXT THING IS, I WANT TO THINK. JUDGE MARTIN BILL LAWSON. CIRCUIT COURT CLERK. X CIRCUIT COURT CLICK BENJAMIN SCOTT COACH MICHAEL SCOTT. COACH RUSSELL WINFIELD AND MARCUS ALLEN. FOR FACILITATING THE MIDDLE SCHOOL FOOTBALL PROGRAM. AH IT WAS MENTIONED EARLIER THAT WHEN THAT PROGRAM CAME BACK, A LOT OF THE CRIME DID GO DOWN. I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO ADD THAT I DID PURCHASE 50 HELMETS AND 50 SHOULDER PADS AND DONATED IT TO THAT PROGRAM. OUT OF MY OWN FUNDS. UM. I WAS TAGGED ON SOCIAL MEDIA ABOUT THIS YOUNG GROUP AND I WANT TO APOLOGIZE TO THE LATEST SHE IS.

SHE'S IN HERE. BUT WE HAVE AN EIGHT YEAR OLD FOOTBALL TEAM. WHO WENT TO FLORIDA AND WANTED CHAMPIONSHIP. AND THEY DESERVE TO BE RECOGNIZED LIKE ANYBODY ELSE. AND WE SKIPPED OVER THEM, AND SO HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET THEM IN HERE AND HONOR THOSE LITTLE GUYS BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE SHOW THEM THAT WE CAN THAT WE SEE THEM. AND SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE CAN DO THAT. WE'LL MAKE SURE WE CAN DO THAT. I WILL CONTACT AND MAKE SURE WE CAN GET HER IN HERE. BUT THE TEAM IS CALLED THE BERG BOYS. MISS. THE AGE GROUP IS EIGHT AND UNDER. UM LASTLY, UH. WE'RE PUTTING TOGETHER MOTHER'S DAY CONCERT THE SUNDAY BEFORE MOTHER'S DAY. UM FOR THE MOTHERS IN THE CITY.

AND OTHER THAN THAT, I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO MY CAMERAS UP HERE WHO WHO HAS BEEN ASSISTING ME AND MAKING THIS A SMOOTH TRANSITION. A LOT OF PEOPLE THOUGHT I WAS GONNA COME HERE AND BE A REBEL AND I AM I AM. BUT I'M ALSO A TEAM PLAYER. I JUST WANT THE TRUTH. I WANT THE FACTS. AND I'M GOING NEXT EFFECTS AND I WANT TO SAY I WANT TO SPEAK ON THE SALARIES THAT I SAW IN THE NEWSPAPER. UM NOT GONNA GO TO THE DETAIL ABOUT IT, BUT I FEEL THAT IF YOU'RE MAKING THAT MUCH MONEY AS A SUPERVISOR. YOU SHOULD BE HERE. THIS CITY MANAGER CANNOT. GET THE WORD OUT FROM ALL OF US. FAST ENOUGH. FASTER THAN IT COULD HAVE THOSE DEPARTMENT HEADS WAS HERE. SEE THE EMPLOYEES. THEY DON'T MAKE THAT MONEY. IT'S A BENEFIT TO THEM TO BE ABLE TO GO HOME AT FIVE O'CLOCK. AND NOT HAVE TO COME TO A COUNCIL. ME. THAT'S A BENEFIT. YOU'RE NOT MAKING THE MONEY. BUT WHEN YOU HEAR HELP LEADERSHIP OUT SO YOU CAN GET THAT WORD OUT. YOU CAN GET THE SENSE OF DIRECTION NOTES TO YOUR EMPLOYEES. AND THAT'S PROBABLY SOMETHING I COULD HAVE SAID TO YOU BACK THERE, BUT I'M GONNA SAY IT RIGHT HERE BECAUSE THAT'S THE REBEL IN ME COMING UP. UM BUT WE THEY'RE MAKING THEIR MONEY. WE WANT TO SEE THEM HERE. THEY OWE THAT TO YOU GUYS. YOU

[02:40:03]

RIGHT, BUT NOT JUST THOSE TWO. BUT THEN I GOT MY BUDDY RIGHT HERE BESIDE ME WHO WE ALMOST KNOCKED THE MARTIN COURT ONE DAY. AND, UH, BUT WE LEARNED THAT OUT. AND THEN I GOT EVERYBODY DOWN HERE. WHO? UH, MYERS AND WESTBROOK AND MS ANNETTE. REGARDLESS OF WHAT ANYBODY MAY THINK ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND IN HIS ROOM. I THINK I WAS THE MISSING PIECE TO THIS TEAM. AND IT'S MY DUTY AND MY JOB AND MY AIM TO MAKE SURE WE GOT AND LEAD ON TRUTH. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT TO GO ON TO COUNCILMAN WESTBROOK. REAL QUICK TONIGHT.

THANK YOU, EVERYBODY FOR COMING OUT, UM, COUNCILOR ADMIRERS. I'M A MAKE FIRST SHUT UP. APPRECIATE THAT SHE STARTED TO OUR ARTS COUNCIL AND, UM COUNCIL MEMBER JONES. I'M ALL FOR DEFINITELY HIGHLIGHTING OUR YOUTH. THAT'S WHAT I TRY TO DO EVERY TIME I HAVE THIS MICROPHONE ONCE A MONTH AT THESE MEETINGS AH, SO I DO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S A LOT OF ATTENTION ALWAYS GIVEN TO BASKETBALL AND FOOTBALL, BUT I'M GONNA KEEP HOLLERING TO THE ARTS AND THE SPORT OF SPEECH AND DEBATE. AND I SAY THAT BECAUSE THIS SATURDAY AS I MENTIONED LAST MONTH, THE PETERSBURG HIGH FORENSICS TEAM FIVE YOUNG LADIES ARE GOING TO COMPETE IN THE STATE TOURNAMENT IN STERLING, VIRGINIA, UNDER THE DIRECTION OF MISS TERRY SMITH. SO I HOPE THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO SUPPORT ALL THE SPORTS AND ACTIVITIES OF PETERSBURG YOUTH SO THAT THEY ALL CAN FEEL INCLUSIVE INSTEAD OF JUST THE MAIN TWO BREADWINNERS. I DO KNOW A FOOTBALL AND BASKETBALL, BUT I DO WISH THOSE THREE EXCUSE ME FIVE YOUNG LADIES, ALL THE SUPPORTING THE WORLD AND HOPEFULLY THEY BRING BACK SOME STATE CHAMPIONSHIPS SO THAT WHEN WE HONOR THAT FOOTBALL TEAM, WE CAN HONOR THEM AS WELL. UM ON THE HBCU LEVEL, WE DID HOST THE, UM THE FIFTH ANNUAL HBCU SPEECH AND NATIONAL DEBATE TOURNAMENT THAT HASN'T BEEN HELD IN PERSON SINCE 2019. I DO WANT TO THANK A LOT OF THE CITY. UH ADMINISTRATION. I DON'T WANT TO SINGLE ANYBODY OUT AND MISS ANYBODY. BUT I DO HAVE TO CALL ONE AND THAT'S MISS JOANNE WILLIAMS. SHE HELPED THE MINISTRATIONS TEAM, THE LEADERSHIP TEAM OF THE TOURNAMENT. UM SHE WAS MY PERSON THAT I COULD CALL ON. AND EVEN WHILE SHE WAS IN GENERAL ASSEMBLY, SHE HELPED GET A LOT OF LOGISTICS TO MAKE SURE PETERSBURG WAS REPRESENTED WITH THAT TOURNAMENT. UM THERE'S STILL A LOT OF NEGATIVE STEREOTYPES ABOUT PETERSBURG. UM AND MISS ELLA TO. I'M SORRY, MISS ELLIE, YOU WERE BAGHDAD. I SEE. SO THAT'S A PART OF JOAN'S LEADERSHIP. BUT THERE'S A LOT OF , UM, STILL STEREOTYPES ABOUT PETERSBURG EVEN AS CLOSE AS VIRGINIA STATE AS WE TRY TO BRIDGE THAT GAP, UM I HOPE THAT WE WILL CONTINUE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE SHINE THE POSITIVE LIGHT ON PETERSBURG OVERALL, WITH THAT TOURNAMENT, HOWARD UNIVERSITY DID WIN THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP. UH MOREHOUSE, MY ALMA MATER DID WIN THE DEBATE PORTION OF IT, BUT VIRGINIA STATE DID WIN FIRST PLACE IN SPEECH IN THE SWEEPSTAKES, WHICH MEANS WE DID ACCUMULATE THE MOST POINTS. AND WE WON THIRD PLACE IN DEBATE. THAT'S NOT A NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP. BUT WE DID GET FIRST AGAIN IN SPEECH AND THIRD AND DEBATE OVERALL. UM NEXT UP IS JUST BACK TO THE CITY OF I'M I GUESS I'M KIND OF, UM, COMPLIMENTING A LOT OF WHAT MY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE SAID SPRING. PEOPLE JUST STARTED YESTERDAY. IT'S TIME TO START WORRYING ABOUT CUTTING YOUR GRASS. HOPEFULLY WE WON'T HAVE TO PUT SO MUCH STRAIN ON PUBLIC WORKS. IN NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES TO GET OUT THERE AND STAKE YARDS . BUT HOPEFULLY AS COUNCIL MEMBER, JONES SAID, WE HAVE TO BE AS A COMMUNITY CALL OUT YOUR NEIGHBORS TO SAY, HEY, IT'S TIME TO CUT THAT GRASS BEFORE IT GETS TO, UH, TALL AND BUGS START COMING AROUND. SO WE WANT TO MAKE THIS CITY OF MORE APPEALING AND ATTRACTIVE PLACE ON THE EYES. UM SPEEDING. UM MR RICHARDSON IS LEFT. BUT, UM AND I'M I'VE NOTED THE POLICE ARE DOING THE BEST THEY CAN, MISTER. MISTER RISK. EXCUSE ME. I MEANT, UM MR STEWART HAS LEFT BUT I'M SEEING A LOT OF SPEEDING ON THE DEFENSE ROAD AND BAYLOR'S LANE AREA AND THAT'S A DOUBLE LINE THAT YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO CROSS AND PEOPLE WILL LITERALLY

[02:45:02]

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. NEXT MOVE ONTO COUNSELOR MYERS. I DON'T HAVE MUCH MONEY, MR MAYOR, BUT I DO WANT TO DEFEND WARD FIVE. IS, MR CUTHBERT HAS POINTED OUT. THERE ARE SEVERAL HOUSES ON AND WARD FATHER AND DILAPIDATED STATE. YES, BECAUSE THEY REMOVED OVER THE WARD, FIVE FROM WARD FOUR. HOWEVER I HAVE TO SAY I APPRECIATE MOST OF THEM ARE MEMBERS ON COUNCIL WHO SERVED WITH ME WHEN WE TOOK DOWN OVER 100 HOUSES IN WARD FIVE TO CLEAN UP THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND WARD FIVE. IF YOU RIDE THROUGH WARD FIVE, I COULDN'T EVEN FIND TRASH OVER THERE ON THE GROUND, AND THEY'RE OVER. THEY'RE RENOVATING AND REVITALIZED IN WARD FIVE, SOME VERY PROUD OF WHAT MY TENURE HAS DONE WHILE I'M THERE. MARY HOWARD. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALWAYS BEING THERE WITH ME.

MR MAYOR, EVERYBODY ON COUNCIL, SO LET'S NOT PUT A LOT OF EMPHASIS ON WARD FIVE AT THIS POINT, BECAUSE WE ARE MOVING FORWARD. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. COUNCILWOMAN SMITH LEE IS WARD SIX. I HAVE A HOUSE THAT HAS BEEN BUILT ON WASHINGTON STREET , AND IT'S NICE ACROSS FROM GOLDEN SKILLET. FRIED CHICKEN. I HAVE TWO ON HALIFAX STREET. AND THOSE BRIGHTER PROPERTIES THAT MR COOPER SHOWED ON THE SCREEN. BELIEVE ME, I HAVE BEEN DOING MY WORK TO TRY TO RETRO FAT AND GET THOSE PROPERTIES. INTACT. WHAT'S SIX WILL HAVE A WARD MEETING. ON MADE US SIX. AT SIX PM AT COOL SPRINGS ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. AND CAN ALL THE DEPARTMENT HEADS. PLEASE STAND. THE ONES THAT ARE HERE. YES, PLEASE STAND. LEAD BY EXAMPLE. THANK YOU. GOOD JOB. UM . THE KIDS ARE GOING ON SPRING BREAK. I'M SO EXCITED FOR THEM. AND I'LL BE GOING ON SPRING BREAK WITH THEM, BUT JUST BE SAFE WHEN YOU GO ON YOUR SPRING BREAK. AND I WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO BLANDFORD. UM, SIXTH GRADE. I WAS THERE AND. UM THEY'RE GONNA DO A LITTLE PEP RALLY. THEY'RE GONNA HAVE A PEP RALLY BECAUSE WHEN I WENT INTO THE SCHOOL IT WAS KIND OF LIKE A LITTLE SLOW AND I WAS LIKE THEY NEED SOMETHING. THEY NEED SOME PUMPED UP AND SO THEY'RE GONNA DO A PEP RALLY. SO IF ANYBODY WANT TO COME THERE, UM IT'S GONNA BE THE FRIDAY UM, WHEN THEIR LAST DAY BEFORE THEY GO ON SPRING BREAK THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT VICE MAYOR HILL. YES. GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. THANK EVERYONE FOR BEING OUT ON TODAY . UH SOMETHING JUST KIND OF SHOCKED ME ON TODAY. DOING THE I GUESS OUR RULES OF COUNCIL UH UM. WHEN WE ALLOW INDIVIDUALS WHO SPEAK I HAVE TO SAY SOMETHING IN WRITING MR OUR CITY ATTORNEY, ALLOWING INDIVIDUALS WHO SPEAK WHO DON'T HAVE A BUSINESS HERE AND WHO IS NOT ONLY AGENDA TO PRESENT WHO IS NOT A RESIDENT OF THE CITY HAD BEEN ON COUNCIL FOR EIGHT YEARS AND EVEN IN OUR ROOTS, EVEN IN OUR AGENDA, IT READS THAT YOU MUST BE A RESIDENT OR HAVE A BUSINESS HERE. BUT YET AND STILL YES, THE FIRST TIME I'VE EVER SEEN INDIVIDUALS COME TO THE MIC, AND WE ALLOWED HIM TO SPEAK. AND THEY DON'T HAVE A BUSINESS BECAUSE I DON'T THINK I CAN GO TO RICHMOND CITY COUNCIL AND SPEAK YOU KNOW? I DON'T

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JUSTICE JUST A WEEK AND BE IN LINE BECAUSE IF THAT'S THE CASE WE'RE HERE. EVERYBODY UP IN HERE SPEAKING, YOU KNOW, THIS IS PETERSBURG IF YOU HAVE A BUSINESS, AND IF YOU RESIDENT, YOU KNOW YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO SPEAK. BUT IF YOU FROM CHESTERFIELD, YOU HAVE NO BUSINESS. YOU DON'T HAVE NO RESIDENCE HERE. YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WE THANK YOU YOUR SUPPORT.

WE THANK YOUR PRAYER. SO YOU KNOW, I MAY BE WRONG, AND I KNOW IT MAY BE SOMETHING DEALING WITH THE STATE OR SOMETHING. BUT I'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL FOR EIGHT YEARS, AND THAT'S THE FIRST TIME AND I EVEN CHECK WITH THE CLERK AND SHE SAID THAT WAS THE FIRST TIME SHE HEARD OF IT, TOO, AND SHE'D BEEN HERE LONGER THAN ALL OF US ON COUNCIL. SO BUT ANYWAYS, UH SO, UH, MR WILLIAMS, I'D LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING IN WRITING WITH THAT, AND I'M PRETTY SURE YOU GET THAT INFORMATION TO ME NOT QUESTIONING YOU. BUT THAT WAS THAT WAS JUST INTERESTING. UM ALSO WAR TWO WOULD BE HEAVEN. A UH, A MEETING COMING UP SOON. I'M JUST TRYING TO SECURE A PLACE BECAUSE THE PLACE I NORMALLY HAVE. THEY'RE NOT REALLY OPENING IT UP RIGHT NOW TO HAVE LARGE CROWDS IN THAT IN THAT MAGNITUDE, SO COME BACK WITH THAT, AND I GUESS WE'LL BE GOING INTO IN AUGUST. WE HAVE OUR OUR ADVANCE OR RETREAT IN AUGUST. SOMETIMES, MR MAYOR. OKAY? OKAY SO I GUESS I DEAL. TE SOME QUESTIONS ON HOW WE GET THINGS ON THE AGENDA AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE JUST SO AND, UH, I DO UNDERSTAND THE BLIGHT SITUATION. I UNDERSTAND COUNCILMAN COUPLER WITH THE BLIGHT AND ALL OF US AND IT COUNCILMAN JONES AS WELL, ESPECIALLY COUNCILMAN JONES BEING HIS. HIS JOB IS BASICALLY COLD ENFORCEMENT. SO HE'S BEEN AT THAT MISSING PIECE WHEN IT COMES TO THAT, THAT WE HAVE BEEN MISSING THAT WE REALLY APPRECIATE HIS WORDS OF ENCOURAGEMENT. AND WHAT HAVE YOU HERE IS A QUICK STUDY. AND WHAT HAVE YOU SO YOU KNOW, WE WORK WELL TOGETHER, ALL OF US DO. AH BUT I AM EXCITED ABOUT THE HOUSES. THEY ARE BEING BUILT IN THE CITY. OVERALL I'M I'M EXCITED ABOUT THE RENOVATION HAS BEEN DONE THROUGHOUT THE CITY AS WELL. BUT WE DO HAVE SOME STILL HAVE SOME CHALLENGES THAT WE MUST TAKE CARE OF. AND I NEVER KNEW THAT SOME OF THOSE HOUSES LOOK THE WAY THEY LOOK BACK ON THE BACK END, EITHER. UM COUNCILMAN? COUPLE OF SO YOU KNOW, I WAS VERY ENLIGHTENING, BUT I AM EXCITED ABOUT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT'S TAKING PLACE THROUGHOUT ALL THE WARS, INCLUDING MINE AS WELL. SO LET'S JUST KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK. THANK YOU. NO NO OTHER COMMENTS. UM, MR WILLIAMS. YES AND MR VICE MAYOR. I DID SEND DURING THE MEETING AND EMAILED ALL OF COUNCIL IDENTIFYING THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN THE PUBLIC HEARING IN THE PUBLIC COMMENT, SO YOU SHOULD HAVE THAT IF YOU DON'T LET ME KNOW. AND I'LL RESET. THANK YOU. EMAIL THAT OKAY. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. UM LOOK AT THIS TIME, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO RECOGNIZE OUR PETERSBURG POLICE OFFICER KUBEL OFFICER HOLD GOOD JOB. JUST COME ON UP FRONT FOR ME. OKAY GOOD JOB.

HAVE A LOT OF GOOD THINGS GOING CHEAP. CHRISTIAN ISN'T HERE, BUT HIS GUYS IS HERE REPRESENTING FOR PD TODAY. I WANT THEM TO COME FORWARD BECAUSE THEY HAVE A LOT OF GOOD THINGS THAT'S GOING ON, UM STARTING OUT THIS WEEKEND. UM PETERSBURG POLICE IS HAVING WHAT'S CALLED A TEAM TOWN HALL RIGHT HERE AT PETERSBURG PUBLIC LIBRARY, AND IT'S A GREAT EVENT THAT PETERSBURG POLICE IS PUTTING ON THEY GET THOSE COMMENTS FROM OUR YOUNG PEOPLE. AND BUILDING THOSE RELATIONSHIPS IS KEY TO KEEPING OUR COMMUNITIES SAFE. SO I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR THAT ONE. AND ALSO WHILE YOU'RE STANDING WE THEY ARE ALSO HAVING A PETERSBURG ATHLETICALLY. IS HAVING A. BEFORE AND AFTER CARE OFFERED AT PETERSBURG HIGH SCHOOL. THEY'RE HAVING A SPRING BREAK CAMP. PETERSBURG HIGH SCHOOL AND AT THE SPRING BREAK CAMP. THE HOUSING AUTHORITY WILL PROVIDE TRANSPORTATION. THANK YOU, MS MARY HOWARD. STAND UP, PLEASE. AND, UH, AND THE PARTNERSHIP WOULD CONTINUE THE SUMMER CAMP. THE SUMMER LEAGUE BASKETBALL AND SPONSORED BY THE TAIWANESE FOUNDATION. ANYBODY HERE FROM KAUNAS? ALRIGHT. GO ON IS RIGHT HERE WE HAVE COUNCILMAN JONES. MARIJUANA'S THANK YOU. SO IT'S UM, SUNUP TO SUNDOWN PROGRAM. AND SO I THANK YOU, UM GUYS FOR ALL YOU DO PIECE, VERY POLICE. UM Y'ALL DO AN EXCELLENT JOB AROUND HERE, AND I JUST CAN'T COMMEND ALL OF YOUR OUTREACH YOU DO TO BE A RELATIONSHIPS HERE. THROUGHOUT OUR CITY. UM NEXT UP. I JUST WANT TO, UM, COMMENT ON THERE'S A LOT GOING ON STARTING UM, THIS WEEKEND WITH THE TEAM TOWN HALL , THEN WE'RE COMING RIGHT BACK THE FOLLOWING WEEKEND WITH THE DONNA MATRIX WEEKEND EVENTS. WE HAVE OUR PETERSBURG'S OWN CELEBRITY FITNESS TRAINER DOT BRUSQUE, LEAVING MELROSE, CALIFORNIA FLYING TO PETERSBURG TO DO HIS, UH, DONNA MATRIX DAY FESTIVALS, AND THIS YEAR HE'S DOING SOME SOME SPECIAL HE'S DOING. A GALA HERE AT THE

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DURING MR HILL'S COMMENTS, I WROTE DOWN HIS QUESTIONS, AND SO WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AND SEE IF WE CAN GO THROUGH SOCIAL SERVICES TO SEE IF WE CAN IDENTIFY THE NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS IN THE COMMUNITY THAT MAY BE DEAF AND SEE, YOU KNOW, AND AS COUNSELING JONES KNOWS FAR DEPARTMENTS HAVE ACCESS TO GIVE OUT SMOKE DETECTORS, SO IT WOULD SEEM THAT WE SHOULD PROBABLY DO THE SAME IF WE'RE GOING TO DO IT FOR THOSE. WE SHOULD DO IT FOR THOSE . SO WE'RE GOING TO LOOK INTO THAT AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO OUR CHECK. THE CHIEF MCGANN WAS OUT TODAY, BUT WE'LL WORK ON THAT AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO HELP THERE. BECAUSE BECAUSE I KNOW WE DO A SMOKE DETECTOR BLITZ. BUT MAYBE WE CAN INVOLVE THAT. YOU'RE NOT JUST DOING SPOKE DETECTIVES BEGINNING TO GETTING THOSE SPECIAL SMOKE DETECTORS FOR THE DEATH. AND IT INVOLVED RIGHT AND WE'LL CHECK WITH THE RED CROSS AS WELL. BUT WE'LL COME UP WITH A WAY TO PROVIDE THOSE. THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR HILL FOR THOSE COMMENTS, OKAY? ALRIGHT AND YES. YES, THEY DO.

THAT WAS FROM MY RED CROSS WAS JUST HERE. OKAY? ALRIGHT. ALRIGHT NEXT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEMS REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA. WE HAVE NO ITEMS AT NIGHT ITEM. 12 FINANCE AND

[13. Unfinished Business]

UNFORTUNATELY WE HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO COMPILE AS MUCH INFORMATION AS WE'D LIKE. FOR YOU TO HAVE AS YOU CONSIDER IT, CONSIDER THIS ITEM AND WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT YOU TABLED THIS ITEM UNTIL YOUR APRIL MEETING. SO THAT WE'LL HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION FOR THANK YOU, MR TABOR, VICE MARY HILL THAT WE TAKE WITH US TO OUR APRIL BEATEN. ALRIGHT, COUNSELOR, MYERS. ALL RIGHT. MADAM CLERK. COULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? COUNCIL MEMBER, CUTHBERT, I REMEMBER JONES. I REMEMBER SMITH LEE I COUNCIL MEMBER MYERS COUNCIL MEMBER WESTBROOK, VICE MAYOR HILL ALL RIGHT. PAST IS ITEM 13 B

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COUNCILOR MYERS. I MOVE THAT WE EX EXTEND THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. OKAY? VICE. MERRY HELL. RIGHT? AND THE DISCUSSION AT THIS TIME DISCUSSION, COUNCILMAN JONES. I AGREE WITH THE EXTENDING OF IT. BUT FOR HOW LONG? BECAUSE HMM. WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE IN THAT? AND UH, PLACES LIKE VIRGINIA AVENUE? WE GOTTA JUST SITTING ON IT. AND WE ALLOW THESE. PEOPLE TO PROLONG THE. DO THESE TO REPAIR IT OR BRING IT UP TO CODE. BUT YET WE JUST SIT HERE AND TALK ABOUT BLIGHT. AND WE'RE KICKING BUTT. WE'RE TRYING TO KICK BUTT GOING TO COURT. SO I THINK I AGREE WITH COUNCILOR MYERS, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO PUT A TIME ON IT AND RIGHT, COUNSELOR JONES.

THE ONLY REASON I AGREED TO THE EXTENSION OF FACT, I'M PROBABLY WAS THE IMPETUS FOR WITH RESPECT TO HAVING A REVERSE. BECAUSE NOTHING WAS HAPPENING, BUT I HAVE SEEN ACTIVITY OUT THERE ON A REGULAR BASIS. AND I DID ASK THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR TO GO OUT AND INVESTIGATE THAT PARTICULAR PROPERTY, SO THEY ARE MOVING THINGS FORWARD. SO I THINK THIS EXTENSION JUST ALLOWS, BUT COULD YOU. YOU SAID HE HAS UNTIL DECEMBER 2023. SO WHY ARE WE EXPANDED ANYTHING? THAT'S WHAT THE EXTENSION IS. TWO DECEMBER 2013 20 SORRY. SORRY I'M GETTING OLD. OKAY ALRIGHT, I GOT YEAH, BUT THAT'S WHY COUNCILMAN JONES BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN ACTIVITY GOING ON OVER THERE. MR MAYOR. LET ME GO TO COUNSELING COVER. THANK YOU. I'M CERTAINLY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS PROPOSED RESOLUTION. BUT OF. THIS IS THE LAST WELL I HATE TO BE ABSOLUTE , BUT LET'S SAY AT THE MOMENT, I AM NOT INCLINED TO AGREE TO ANY ADDITIONAL EXTENSION. I CERTAINLY WILL GO ALONG WITH THIS. I WANT TO SEE THE MAN SUCCEED. I WANT TO SEE THE PROJECT SUCCEED, BUT WE THINGS. WE'VE GOT TO HAVE A HARD LINE A DEADLINE. THAT MEANS SOMETHING SO I CAN LIVE WITH DECEMBER 13 2023, BUT I SURE HOPE WE CAN HAVE A RIBBON CUTTING SHORTLY THEREAFTER. YES SIR. WE WOULD PREFER RIBBON CUTTING AND BUT WITH THIS DOCUMENT HAS GONE THROUGH ITS AUTOMATIC REVERSION , SO IT WON'T HAVE TO COME BACK , SO OKAY, GREAT. OKAY GOOD.

THANK YOU WANT TO CHIME IN BY THE GENTLEMAN WHO'S DOING THE GRIFFIN CIGARS? UM, JUST TO GIVE COUNCILMAN JONES SOME OF THE BACKGROUND. UM HE CAME TO ME IN A MEETING BECAUSE YOU KNOW HE'S DONE. THIS IS HIS THIRD CIGAR STORE THAT HE'S DOING, AND HE EXPLAINED TO ME. ONE OF HIS BIG CHALLENGES IS THE FACT THAT HE'S DEALT WITH THE SAME BANK. WITH ALL OF HIS OTHER CIGAR LOUNGES.

AND EACH ONE OF THEM WERE ABLE TO EXTEND HIM ATLANTA CREDIT TO GET THEM DONE AT 890 SOME $1000 FOR EACH ONE. BUT WHEN HE WENT TO THAT SAME BANK AND TOLD HIM THAT HE WAS DOING THIS PROJECT IN PETERSBURG THEY PULL BACK TO 200 SOME $1000. OKAY SO WHAT HAPPENED? WAS HE HE GOT RED LINE IN FUNDING. AND THAT WAS PART OF HIS DELAY AS WELL. AND UM, IT'S THE ISSUE THAT WE REALLY, YOU KNOW, NEED TO CHECK INTO, BECAUSE AS AS WE CONTINUE TO TRY TO SAVE A LOT OF OUR HISTORIC PROPERTIES RAN INTO A LOT OF PROPERTY OWNERS THAT I HAVE IN TROUBLES WITH THE BANKS STILL NOT WANTING TO LEND TO PETERSBURG. YES. SO UM, I DID SEE THAT DOCUMENT AND IT WAS

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WASHINGTON WITH HALIFAX STREET CREATOR ROAD COUNTY DRIVE AND CREATE A ROAD SOUTH. AND THIS IS AN ILLUSTRATION THAT WE ADDED, UM, THAT SHOWS, UH, PROPERTIES ALONG WHAT HE'S I'M SORRY WEST WASHINGTON STREET THAT ARE ZONED, UM, BE TOO. AND B THREE THAT WOULD BE IMPACTED BY THIS ORDINANCE SHOULD BE PAST. THE LIBRARY, FOR EXAMPLE, IS ZONE B THREE B TWO AH, THE DRAMATICS RIVER MATHEMATICS. REGIONAL GOVERNANCE SCHOOL IS OWNED B TWO AS WELL AND ALONG SOME OF THE INTERSECTIONS. AH ON WEST WASHINGTON, THERE ARE SOME PROPERTIES THAT ARE ZONED. B TWO AND ONLY THOSE PROPERTIES THAT ARE ZONE B TWO, OR B THREE WOULD BE IMPACTED. AH THIS SHOWS THE B THREE PROPERTIES IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA. AND THE BTUS THAT WOULD BE IMPACTED. UM AGAIN AERIALS SHOWING THE DOWNTOWN AREA OF THE LIBRARY AND GOVERNORS SCHOOL. DOWNTOWN DISTRICT, UM SYCAMORE STREET AND THE DOWNTOWN AREA BUSINESSES. AND PROPERTIES THAT WOULD BE IMPACTED. A VACANT PROPERTY. UM RIGHT AROUND RIGHT DOWN THE STREET AT UNION AND MARKET STREET. THAT IS POTENTIALLY IMPACT IMPACTED. THE HOTEL PROPERTIES. AH AT WASHINGTON AND WITH AND 95, SOUTH KOREA ROAD. THOSE PROPERTIES ARE ZONE B TWO AND THEY WOULD BE IMPACTED. AND THIS IS AN AREA THAT SHOWS THAT SAME THOSE SAME PROPERTIES. UM, QUESTION COUNSELOR MYERS. YES AND MR MAYOR, I'M GONNA ABSTAIN ON THIS BECAUSE I MAY HAVE A CONFLICT. BUT MY QUESTION IS, DID YOU NOTIFY ALL OF THESE. BUILDING OWNERS OR BUSINESS OWNERS. THIS WAS COMING BEFORE.

UM. GENERALLY FOR, UM. PUBLIC HEARINGS RELATED TO REZONING. WE DO ADVERTISEMENTS AS REQUIRED BY LAW IN THE NEWSPAPER. AND THAT WAS DONE FOR THIS ITEM. ALL RIGHT.

ALRIGHT, COUNSELOR COVER THANK YOU, UH, DID WE. WE ARE TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING. HAVE WE ANNOUNCED THAT AND INVITED PUBLIC COMMENT? WE CONDUCTED A PUBLIC HEARING A COUPLE OF MEETINGS AGO, OKAY? OKAY UM, WELL, GOOD. WELL I GUESS WE ARE READY TO LAUNCH INTO A DISCUSSION. MR ALTMAN. IS THERE A RECOMMENDATION ABOUT YOUR OFFICE OR BUS STAFF AS TO WHAT WE DO ON THIS? THE STATUE RECOMMENDATIONS TO APPROVE THE AMENDMENT. WHAT THE AMENDMENT WILL DO IS ALLOW COUNSEL TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR CASES COME BEFORE YOU WHERE WE HAVE

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AND WHAT THAT MAY AFFECT. ALRIGHT. THAT'S VERY, VERY HELPFUL, MR VAN VOORHEES, WOULD YOU PUT UP ON THE SCREEN, PLEASE? PICTURE OF AMERICAN IN THANK YOU. SO JUST USE THIS AS AN EXAMPLE. UH, MR ALTMAN OF. IF COUNCIL DOES NOT ADOPT AGENDA ITEM 13 C. COULD THE OWNER OF AMERICAN IN UH, CONVERT. THOSE UM MOTEL ROOMS INTO LOW INCOME APARTMENTS WITHOUT OBTAINING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT. YES THEY WOULD JUST SIMPLY HAVE TO SUBMIT BUILDING PERMITS TO THE BUILDING OFFICIAL FOR REVIEW AND APPROVAL , AND THEN THEY COULD CONVERT THOSE TWO APARTMENT. AND MR VAN BOYS, WOULD YOU GO TO BEST IN PLEASE? UH SO THAT'S WELL, WE'LL DEAL WITH KING MOTEL IS THE SAME TRUE WITH KING MOTEL. YES, SIR. AND MR VAN VORHEES, CALIFORNIA AND I THINK THERE WAS A MURDER THERE. ISN'T THAT RIGHT? IS THAT RIGHT? UH SO THE SAME IS TRUE FOR CALIFORNIA IN WHERE THERE WAS A MURDER POINT WITHIN THE LAST SIX MONTHS. IS THAT CORRECT ? MR OLDMAN PROPERTIES PROPERTIES ENTER B TWO AND B THREE WOULD BE ALLOWED TO BE CONVERTED THE BEST END AND THE SAME IS TRUE WITH BEST IN HOW ABOUT FLAGSHIP? YES OKAY. WHAT IS THIS? THIS IS OYO. NOW YOU SEE, THERE'S AN AUCTION SIGN. THEREFORE THAT'S OH, YOU CAN'T READ THE SIGN, UNFORTUNATELY, BUT, UH IT'S GOING TO BE AUCTIONED OFF. IT'S CLOSED RIGHT NOW IS A MOTEL. SO IF SOMEONE WERE TO BUY IT AND WANTED TO CONVERT IT INTO APARTMENTS WOULD BE NOTHING TO PREVENT THEM FROM DOING THAT AS THINGS STAND NOW, IS THAT RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT AND THE CHECK WITH THAT AUCTION COMPANY IN THE SALE IS SCHEDULED FOR APRIL. THE 11TH AH, LET ME GO TO, UH, THE STAR MOTEL.

PERHAPS WE ALL KNOW THE STAR MOTEL. UM THE SAME AGAIN. TRUE OKAY. AND DO WE HAVE ANY MORE, MR VAN BOYS? YES TRAVEL IN THE OLD HOWARD JOHNSON'S LOTS AND LOTS OF POTENTIAL APARTMENT. SAY HELLO INCOME. AH AND IT'S EMPTY. AND THE LAST ONE, I GUESS IS ROYAL IN, UM OR IT? WELL, THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR VAN BOYS. THANK YOU, MR ALMOND. I MOVE THAT WE ADOPT. THE ORDINANCE AS PROPOSED. SECOND COUNSELOR JONES THE SECOND MR MAYOR. YES YES, WE WANTED TO OFFER ONE POINT OF CLARIFICATION. JUST ASK THE PLANE DIRECTOR. SO DOES THIS PROPOSAL. INVOLVE ANY CHANGE IN THE ZONING MAP CLASSIFICATION OF ANY OF THESE PROPERTIES. NO IT IS NOT RIGHT. AND I THINK MR MYERS POINT IS WELL TAKEN THAT HAD IT ACTUALLY CHANGED THE ZONING MAP CLASSIFICATION. YOU WOULD HAVE NEEDED TO NOTIFY THE OWNERS BUT BECAUSE THIS IS NOT A CHANGE IN THAT CLASSIFICATION, WHAT MR TABOR STATED HIS ACCURATE WITH REGARD TO THE PROPER NOTICE. OKAY ALRIGHT, COUNSELOR. YES. SO, UM I STILL NEED TO ABSTAIN CORRECT. OKAY, I GOT IT. ALRIGHT ALRIGHT ANYMORE.

DISCUSSION NOW WILL CALL THE RULES. MADAM CLERK. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER ROBERT JONES, RIGHT, REMEMBER SMITH LEE. COUNCIL MEMBER MYERS COUNCIL MEMBER WESTBROOK. BY SUMMERHILL

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FUNDING TO FOCUS ON ONE HOUR COMP PLAN AND THE NATURAL RESOURCE ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP CHAPTER UPDATE THAT WOULD COMPLY WITH THE CHESAPEAKE BAY PRESERVATION ACT. CORRECT, MR TABOR. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. COUNSELOR, MYERS MOVIE. VICE MAYOR HILL SECOND. ALL RIGHT, MADAM CLERK. MAY YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROOM. COUNCIL MEMBER KOZBERG . COUNCIL MEMBER JONES COUNCIL MEMBER SMITH LEE COUNCIL MEMBER MYERS COUNCIL MEMBER WESTBROOK, VICE MARY HILL. MAYOR PERM IS

[14. New Business]

COUNCIL MEMBER MYERS COUNSELING WESTBROOK, VICE MAYOR HILL PAST NEXT IS ITEM 14 B CONSIDERATION OF APPROPRIATION FOR A HIGH HAZARD POTENTIAL GRANT, AWARDED BY THE FEDERAL EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT. RECREATION IN THE AMOUNT OF $92,137.50. TO BE USED FOR DESIGN COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE ULTIMATE IMPROVEMENTS TO BRING THE WILCOX LAKE DAM INTO COMPLIANCE WITH THE VIRGINIA DAM SAFETY REGULATIONS. MR WALKER GOOD EVENING. EVEN HERE, COUNSEL. DAVE. UM JUST CONSIDERATION OF THE RESOLUTION OF APPROACHING APPROPRIATION ORDERS FOR THE SPD GRANT, UM TO, UH THAT WAS AWARDED BY FEMA. ALLOCATED THROUGH DCR TO US. FOR THE ULTIMATE. DESIGN CALLS FOR IMPROVEMENTS OF THE CATHOLIC OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS, MR WALL GROUP CNN , WE GO TO COUNSELING WESTBROOK . UM POINT OF ORDER, THOUGH. CAN I MAKE THE MOTION FOR THIS BEING THAT I AM ON THE DIPLOMATIC CONSERVANCY. OKAY WITH THAT BEING, I DON'T WANT TO BE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST WITH THAT BEING SAID I DO MOVE THAT WE ARE . PROVE THE HA HA HA! HIGH HAZARD POTENTIAL GRANT OF WHAT IT BY THE FEDERAL BY FEMA AND THE AMOUNT OF $92,137.50 TO IMPROVE WILCOX LAKE DAM. OKAY, VICE MAYOR HILL. ALL RIGHT AT THIS TIME, MADAM CLERK AND PLEASE CALL THE RULES. CAST MEMBER ROBERT JONES MEMBER SMITH LI, UH COUNCILOR. BUT MYERS COUNCIL MEMBER WESTBROOK, VICE MAYOR HILL. NEXT IS ITEM 14 C CONSIDERATION OF A RESOLUTION TO APPROVE NATIONAL OPIOID SETTLEMENT. TVA AND ALLERGEN, CVS, WALGREENS AND WALMART. MR WILLIAMS. YES HONORABLE MAYOR, VICE MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL BACK IN THE YEAR 2021.

THE CITY AUTHORIZED TO RESOLUTIONS. 21 ARE 93 21, OR 90 FOR ALLOWING US TO PARTICIPATE IN THE NATIONAL OPIOID SETTLEMENT HAD WORKED EXTENSIVELY WITH THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE TO HAVE THE CITY ADDED TO THE LIST OF LOCALITIES WHO HAD PARTICIPATED IN ATTEMPTING TO RECOVER FUNDS FROM OPIOID MANUFACTURERS AND DISTRIBUTORS. THEY WERE SUCCESSFUL IN DOING THAT IN THE CITY NOW ANNUALLY RECEIVES FUNDS FROM THAT, UM, SETTLEMENT AS WELL AS HAS ACCESS TO THE NATIONAL OPIOID ABATEMENT AUTHORITY FUNDS THAT WE ARE ABLE

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ALRIGHT. PROMOTION TO SECOND MADAM CLERK. MAY YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROAD. COUNCIL MEMBER CUTHBERT HOUSING OVER JONES HIGH MEMBER SMITH LEE. COUNCILOR OF THE MYERS MEMBER WESTBROOK HIGH . MARY HILL. TURN I FAST THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MR WILLIAMS. NEXT ONE MOVE ON ITEM.

[15. City Manager's Report]

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INCREASED COST TO THE CITY. FOR THE UPCOMING UH, PLAN YEAR. NOW THERE ARE SOME SOME, YOU KNOW, NEW FEATURES NEW BENEFITS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THE PLAN THAT I DO WANT TO MAKE. MAKE NOTE OF SO FIRST THE DIABETES PREVENTION PROGRAM HAS BEEN ADDED. PERSONALIZED DIGITAL HEALTH COACHING IS, UH, IS INCLUDED WITH THAT THE LIVE HEALTH ONLINE INCLUDES DERMATOLOGY VISIT SO UM , TELE MEDICINE. YOU CAN TAKE A PICTURE OF, YOU KNOW, SPOT A SPOT ON YOUR SKIN AND YOU KNOW, SEND IT TO THEM, AND THEY'LL MAKE A RECOMMENDATION. AND YOU KNOW IF THEY NEED TO SEE YOU, THOUGH, THEY'LL CALL YOU YOU KNOW, IN INTO THE OFFICE, BUT THESE ARE GREAT FEATURES IN HOME ADDICTION TREATMENT HAS BEEN ADDED, SO THAT IS DONE WITH A COMBINATION OF IN HOME TREATMENT VERSUS IN PERSON, SO THEY GO IN TO SEE A DOCTOR. THEY'RE GIVEN THE TOOLS TO, UH, YOU KNOW, TREAT THE ADDICTION, BUT THEY DO THAT AT HOME AND THEN CHECK IN REGULARLY THROUGH TELE TELEMEDICINE VISITS. UM AND THEN EXPANDED VIRTUAL CARE OPTIONS. SO YOU KNOW A LOT OF A LOT OF, UM, BENEFIT. A LOT OF HEALTH INSURANCE ACCESS IS GOING TO TELEMEDICINE A LOT LOT MORE DOCTORS THROUGH THE PANDEMIC HAD TO OPEN UP ACCESS THROUGH TELEMEDICINE. SO THIS IS A GOOD THING FOR THE FOR THE EMPLOYEES. THEY HAVE ACCESS TO CARE WHEREVER THEY ARE THROUGH A SMARTPHONE. UM IN TERMS OF THE RENEWAL OVERALL, WE MAPPED OUT THREE OPTIONS TO CONSIDER. SO THE FIRST ONE IS, AS I MENTIONED THE TOTAL INCREASES 8.8. UM OPTION A WOULD BE THE CITY AND THE EMPLOYEE'S SHARE. IN THE RENEWAL INCREASE, SO THAT WOULD BE $320,061 TO THE CITY.

INCREASED COST AND 98,883. FOR THE EMPLOYEES. AND THIS IS KEEPING THE SAME TWO PLANS. THE KEY ADVANTAGE 1000 AND THE KEY ADVANTAGE. UH, 500 DEDUCTIBLE. THE SECOND OPTION, UM WHICH IS IF WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE? IS, UM THIS IS FROM OUR SPREADSHEET, SO IT'S NOT BUT OPTIONS. SEE HERE. IS AGAIN KEEPING THOSE SAME PLANS, BUT THE CITY ABSORBS THE INCREASE OF $418,944. THIS IS, UM. ONE OF THE OPTIONS THAT WE WANTED TO AT LEAST CONSIDER BECAUSE WE HAVE A PARTICIPATION. UM, CONCERN WHERE WE WANT TO MAINTAIN. AFFORDABLE LEVELS FOR AS MANY EMPLOYEES AS AS POSSIBLE. UM AND INCREASING THAT MAY MAY JEOPARDIZE THAT. YOU KNOW SOMEONE UM, AND THEN OPTION D WE DISCUSSED, UM, IS ADDING A HIGH DEDUCTIBLE HEALTH PLANS. SO SOME OF YOU MAY BE FAMILIAR WITH H S A QUALIFIED HEALTH SAVINGS ACCOUNT QUALIFIED PLANS, THEIR HIGHER DEDUCTIBLES . UM THESE TYPES OF PLANS. THIS IS A THIS IS A STRATEGY THAT WE DEFINITELY WANT TO LOOK AT.

GOING FORWARD, BUT THE DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD. WITH MR OBAMA AND MRS WHITE WAS TOO MAYBE TABLE THIS FOR THE NEXT PLAN YEAR WHEN WE'RE GOING BACK OUT TO MARKET BECAUSE HEALTH SAVINGS ACCOUNT ELIGIBLE PLAN OFTEN REQUIRES MORE EDUCATION BECAUSE IT IS NOT A PLAN THAT YOU GO IN AND YOU JUST PAY A COPAY WHEN YOU GO TO THE DOCTOR. YOU ARE SUBJECT TO A DEDUCTIBLE AND IT REQUIRES SOME PLANNING TO SAVE SAVE IN ADVANCE FOR FUTURE HEALTH CARE EXPENSES. UM IN THIS SCENARIO, THE TOTAL INCREASE TO THE CITY WOULD BE 4.2% OR 4, 151,081 AND THE EMPLOYEES WOULD BE 23.7. PERCENT OR 2 67. NOW THIS IS A BIT SKEWED IN THIS EXAMPLE BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANY PARTICIPATION IN THE HEALTH SAVINGS ACCOUNT. UM IN OUR MODEL , BUT IT WOULD ULTIMATELY BE, UM , IF WE WERE TO ABLE TO IMPLEMENT THIS IN THE FUTURE, IT WOULD BE A SAVINGS ARE MUCH LOWER COST OPTION FOR THE EMPLOYEES. UM AND THEN, YOU KNOW , FINALLY, OUR RECOMMENDATION,

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AND IT'S REAL AFFORDABLE FOR THEM SO HOW COULD THIS HELP REDUCE. HOW COULD A MERRY PLAN OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT HELP REDUCE THE COST ON THE CITY AND ON THE EMPLOYEES, UM, TO BE, UM, TRANSPARENT. I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE MAYOR. AMERICA PLAN. UM BUT THERE ARE OTHER TYPES OF HEALTH INSURANCE PLANS OUT THERE THAT CAN HELP SUPPLEMENT UM AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE REALLY WANT TO DEAL WITH, WHAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DISCUSSED WITH MR WHITE AND MR ALTMAN IS TO LOOK AT SELF FUNDED OPTIONS LOOK AT LEVEL FUNDED OPTIONS, SO LOOK AT DIFFERENT WAYS THAT WE CAN FUND THIS THAT THE CITY CAN THEN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE HEALTH STATUS OF A LOT OF THE EMPLOYEES TO LOWER THE OVERALL PREMIUM. RIGHT NOW, YOUR YOUR INCREASE IS NOT NECESSARILY UM, JUST BASED ON THE WHAT WE CALL THE EXPERIENCE OF THE EMPLOYEES WITHIN THE PLAN. IT IS. PULLED WITH OTHER MUNICIPALITIES THAT ARE ALSO USING THE LOCAL CHOICE. AND SO YOUR RATES ARE NOT BEING DETERMINED SOLELY BASED ON THE EXPERIENCE OF THE CITY CITY OF PETERSBURG. AND SO WE WANT TO EXPLORE OPTIONS WHERE WE CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT. AND MAYBE PULL YOU OUTSIDE OF A POOL. UH TO LOOK LOOK FOR BETTER BETTER RATES. OKAY MR. MAYOR. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR MR JONES. IF COUNCILMAN JONES IS SURE, COUNSELOR COVER UH HUH. MR JONES. YOU SAID DUE TO TIMING WE DID NOT HAVE THE TIME TO GO OUT TO MARKET. WHAT RESTRICTED YOU FROM GOING OUT TO MARKET? WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR YEARS ON CITY COUNCIL. SO HOW HOW IS IT THAT YEARS ARE NOT SUFFICIENT TIME? YES SIR. GREAT QUESTION. SO UM, THERE WAS AN RFP PROCESS FOR NEW OF NEW EMPLOYEE BENEFIT BROKER THAT OCCURRED LAST YEAR. UM WE WERE AWARDED THE CONTRACT IN THE BEGINNING OF THIS YEAR AND THEN BY THE PROCUREMENT RULES, BY THE TIME WE WERE ABLE TO ENGAGE WITH MISS WHITE AND HER TEAM UM WE WOULD NOT HAVE TIME BEFORE THE LOCAL CHOICE. DEADLINE BECAUSE THEY PUSH IT UP. SO FAR, TWO APRIL FIFTH. UM, TO GO THROUGH THE PROPER PROCUREMENT. WHICH WE WOULD NEED TO DO TO GO OUT TO BID FOR HEALTH INSURANCE. SO WITH THE TIMING WITH TRYING TO PUT IT OUT TO BID ALLOW IT TO BE OUT, UM, ON THE SITE. EVA UM AND ALSO YEAH, YEAH. YOU WANT TO CHANNEL? YEAH, SURE. JUST GIVE SPECIFICS. COUNCILMAN CUPBOARD SO I CAME MAY 23RD AUGUST WE WERE PULLING TOGETHER THE COMMITTEE TO GO THROUGH THE RFP PROCESS FROM THE POINT OF AUGUST UNTIL DECEMBER. MAYBE EARLY JANUARY WAS THE TIMELINE FOR AWARDING 21 DIGITAL. SO WE'VE SPENT THE TIME GOING THROUGH THAT ENTIRE PROCUREMENT PROCESS.

SINCE I'VE COME ON BOARD TO GET US TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY, IF THAT HELPS TO JUST CLARIFY SPELL OUT THE TIMELINE PRIOR TO ME, I CAN'T SPEAK TO, HOWEVER, HITTING THE GROUND RUNNING MAY TO AUGUST . UM WE INITIATED THAT PROCESS, AND HERE WE ARE TODAY AFTER THE AWARD. MR MAYOR. I MOVE THAT WE TABLE THIS FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION. OF RELATED LEGAL AND PERSONNEL ISSUES IN CLOSED

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THIS IS A BIGGER PICTURE THAT INCLUDES A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT MONASTIC MUNICIPALITIES WRAPPED INTO ONE. SO THINK ABOUT SOME OF YOUR NEIGHBORING LOCALITIES WHO ALSO PARTICIPATE IN IT. THEY HAVE AN IMPACT ON US BEING IN THE LOCAL CHOICE PROGRAM. I APPRECIATE YOU EXPLAINING THAT TO ME BECAUSE AS AN EMPLOYEE, WHEN I WAS AN EMPLOYEE, WE WERE TOLD THE EXACT OPPOSITE OF THE MADE IT FEEL LIKE THE EMPLOYEES WAS AT FAULT, NOT FOR THE REASON . AND SO EVEN EMPLOYEES ARE HERE WAS NEVER YOUR FAULT. THANK YOU ONLY 394 OF US TOTAL. YEAH, IF YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING ELSE.

MR JONES. UM THE OTHER THING I WANT TO ADD IS THE EVERY YEAR. THERE'S WHAT THEY CALL A TREND INCREASE SO HEALTH AND HEALTH INSURANCE THE COST OF CARE GETS MORE EXPENSIVE EVERY YEAR, SO IT'S NOT JUST THIS. THE EMPLOYEES. IT'S NOT JUST THE POOL, BUT JUST COST OF CARE IN GENERAL GOES UP. UM WHAT WE'VE SEEN IN THE MARKETPLACE TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF THE TREND THAT WE'RE SEEING IS A MUCH HIGHER TREND THAN USUAL. DUE TO THE PANDEMIC, SO DURING THE PANDEMIC , ACCESS TO CARE WAS LIMITED. LOT OF DOCTORS WERE SHUT DOWN, IT WENT TO NECESSARY. VISITS SO UNLESS IT WAS ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY VISIT A LOT OF THE, UM YOU KNOW, NOT NECESSARY. VISITS KIND OF WERE PUT OFF CHECKUPS, THE ANNUAL PHYSICALS, THINGS LIKE THAT, AND UNFORTUNATELY, AS A RESULT OF THAT WE'RE SEEING HIGHER INCIDENCES OF CLAIMS NOW HIGHER CANCER CLAIMS HIGHER, CHRONIC CONDITION CLAIMS THAT IN GENERAL IN THE MARKETPLACE OR RAISING THE COST, AND WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS 10 TO 15% INCREASES ACROSS THE BOARD. SO YOU ALL AT 8.8 BEING PULLED OR LOWER THAN THE TREND INCREASE, SO I THOUGHT THAT MIGHT BE IMPORTANT TO LET YOU LET YOU KNOW. THANK YOU. SO WHY ARE YOU SEARCHING? COULD YOU LOOK INTO THOSE SUPPLEMENTAL PROGRAMS LIKE AMERICAN PLAN TO

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