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, I CLOSED SESSION AND NOW WE HAVE ROLLED ONTO REGULAR SCHEDULED CITY COUNCIL WORK
[1. Roll Call]
SESSION. GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. THANK YOU FOR JOINING US. UM, MADAME CLAIRE, CAN YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? COUNCIL MEMBER EFFORT. COUNCIL MEMBER JONES COUNCIL MEMBER SMITH FULLY PRESENT. HOUSE MEMBER MYERS. COUNCIL MEMBER WESTBROOK, PRESIDENT. VICE MARY HILL HERE.NEXT IS ITEM TWO TO PRAYER. VICE MAYOR HERE WILL LEAD US IN OUR OPENING PRAYER. LET US PRAY.
TURNING GOD, OUR FATHERS, AND ONCE AGAIN WE COME BEFORE YOU, LORD. FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT MANY GIFTS AND BLESSINGS YOU HAVE BESTOWED UPON US DOWNLOADED. WE ASK THAT YOU GO WITH US IN THE MIDST OF THIS MEETING THAT IT MAY BE FRUITFUL TO YOUR NAME HAVING A FATHER. WE ASK THAT BLESSING UPON OUR FIRST RESPONDERS HAVING A FATHER THAT YOU WERE PROTECT THEM LESSONS UPON OUR CITIZENS HAVING THEIR FATHER THAT YOU WOULD KEEP AND PROTECT THEM. WE ASKED THAT WISDOM AND PROTECTION UPON THIS COUNCIL. AND ALL THE ADMINISTRATION AND ALL THE WORKERS HAVING A FATHER. WE ASK THAT YOU BLESS THIS CITY CALLED PETERSBURG AND THE SURROUNDING AREA. 70 FATHER, BE WITH US THAT KNOW HER HARM. NO DANGER. COME NOW WE'LL BE ABLE CAREFUL TO GET YOUR NAME. ALL THE HONOR ALL THE PRAISE AND ALL THE GLORY IS YOUR DARLING SON. JESUS NAME WE PRAY AND WE THANK YOU. AMEN. AMEN. ASKING EVERYONE, PLEASE STAND AND JOIN ME THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. PLEASURE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG. YEAH, BUT WHICH IS STAYING ONE DAY. THE INJUSTICES CALL. NEXT IS ITEM FOR THE TERMINATION OF THE PRESENCE OF A QUORUM. WE DO HAVE A QUORUM. UM
[5. Public Comments]
NEXT IS, UM PUBLIC COMMENTS, WHICH IS NUMBER FIVE. MR RICHARD STEWART. MY NAME IS TODAY.STUART LEVY, 1 29 ROSS STREET. I'M HERE COMPLAINING AS ALWAYS, THE SPEED ON MY KING BRIDGES STILL FAST, AND I THINK THE CHIEF IF I HAD PROBLEMS FROM CARMELO POCAHONTAS, LOOKING OVER, AND I REALLY I APPRECIATE THAT. BUT TODAY IS A VERY SPECIAL DAY WHEN I COME TO THINK ABOUT THE LIBRARY. UH DAY IS THE DAEMON LUTHER KING WAS ASSASSINATED. AND I THINK ABOUT THE LIBRARY. HE WAS VERY UNFAMILIAR TO COME INTO THIS CITY AND GET THEM TO INTEGRATE THE LIBRARY AND I SEE THIS LIBRARY WITH A MINUTE FINANCIALS WHO HAVE TO CONTRIBUTE TO THIS LIBRARY AND WE STAND HERE TODAY AND WORLD NEWS. WHAT'S GOING ON WITH DONALD TRUMP RIGHT NOW, HAVING BRAG. HIS FATHER WENT THE PEABODY HIGH SCHOOL WITH ME AND SAY WITH CHAMBERS OFFICE, CEDAR STREET. SO WHEN I LOOK AT IT, UH , THE ROUTE FROM PETERSBURG A MAN LIKE ALVIN BRAGG AND HE GOT TIRED OF PETERSBURG. IT IS SOMETHING SPECIAL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT, MISS CHESTER.
YES. MAYOR, PARENT VICE MAYOR HERE, ENTIRE CANCER MEMBERS AND CITY MANAGER. CAN YOU PULL THE MICROPHONE NOW? YES MY NAME IS PAULA CHESTER LIBERTINE. 13 MARK DR PETERSBURG. MY MAIN CONCERN IS NOW THAT IT'S SPRING. WILL THERE BE MORE SWEET PAYMENTS? THIS UPCOMING. YES VERY SOON, VERY, VERY, VERY SOON. OKAY THAT'S MY CONCERN. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. THE STREET STREET PAVING UH HUH. OKAY? NEXT UM WHEN MOVE ON TO ITEM SIX, WHICH
[6. Approval of Consent Agenda (to include minutes of previous meetings):]
IS THE APPROVAL TO CONSENT AGENDA TO INCLUDE MINUTES OF PREVIOUS MEETINGS. A MINUTES MARCH 7TH 2023 WORK SESSION MARCH 8TH 2023 SPECIAL CITY COUNCIL MEETING MARCH 21ST 2023 CLOSED SESSION MARCH 21ST 2023 REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING B, A REQUEST OF SCHEDULED PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION OR ORDINANCE APPROVING A PETITION TO REZONE THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1 13, WEST BANK STREET FROM M ONE. TWO P U D FOR APRIL 18TH 2023 CM REQUESTED SCHEDULED PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION FOR ORDINANCE APPROVING THAT PETITION TO REZONE THE PROPERTY . LOCATED AT 2 21. BOWLING BROOK STREET FROM M ONE LIGHT MANUFACTURING DISTRICT TO PUT PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT FOR APRIL. 18TH 2023 ITEM D CONSIDERATION OF AND APPROPRIATION ORDINANCE FOR THE COMMONWEALTH OF VIRGINIA. DEPARTMENT OF FIRE PROGRAMS FIND 82 LOCALITIES FUNDING CARRYOVER FIRST READING THOSE ITEMS FOR THE CONSENT. URGENT, ENTERTAINING MOTION TO APPROVE COUNSELOR MYERS. YES MR MAYOR. UM I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THAT[00:05:01]
CONSENT AGENDA ALSO WITH RESPECT TO ANY AMENDMENTS THAT MAY BE FURTHER NEEDED. THEREAFTER.COUNSELOR WESTBROOK SECOND RIGHT, MADAM CLERK AND PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. COUNCIL MEMBER COMFORT. VAGINA. HI. COUNCIL MEMBER SMOOTHLY I COUNCIL MEMBER MYERS COUNCIL MEMBER WESTBROOK BERRYHILL. I PERM I PASSED. ALL RIGHT. NEXT WE ALL MOVED TO NUMBER SEVEN, WHICH IS THE
[7. Special Reports]
SPECIAL REPORTS. ALL RIGHT. AND UNDER THE SPECIAL REPORTS, UM THE SCHOOLS. WE WANT YOU ALL MOVING Y'ALL UP SO YOU CAN MAKE YOUR PRESENTATION. YES OKAY, BECAUSE THE AGENDA HAD A RESTRUCTURE OR SOMETHING. A MICROPHONE OUT. OKAY GOOD EVENING CIRCLE. RIGHT BACK AROUND TO YOU CAN OKAY, WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK. OKAY, I SHOULD KNOW. AFTER OKAY, I KNOW KEN. KEN WANT TO SPEAK WHEN I KNOW Y'ALL NEED OKAY. GET UP. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MAYOR. UM SO THIS PRESENTATION IS NOTHING MORE THAN UM, NOTIFICATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL THAT YET ANOTHER CALCULATOR CAME OUT BY THE STATE OF VIRGINIA. AND UM, IT JUST CHANGED THE NUMBERS EVER SO SLIGHTLY THAT MISS JORDAN HAS BEEN HER PRE BUDGET PRESENTATION. AND SO, UM , WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE SO THERE TO REFRESH YOUR MEMORY. THERE WAS THE 3 12,000,061 4 77 IN THE BOTTOM RIGHT CORNER. THAT'S THAT IS WHAT I HAD PRESENTED TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND OUR SCHOOL SCHOOL BOARD. AND THAT WAS BASED ON THE INFORMATION AT THE TIME AND SO NEXT SLIDE A NEW BUT I KNEW CALCULATOR. NOT ONLY DID A NEW CALCULATOR COME OUT, BUT THERE IS A 36 COLUMNS. ATTACHMENT CALLED ATTACHMENT BE SO IT'S SO MASSIVE UP THERE THAT I SCRUNCHED IT DOWN, SO IT'S JUST HERE SO THE NUMBERS CHANGED SLIGHTLY, UM AND SO ON THE NEXT SLIDE. WHAT IT DID WAS SO HERE'S HERE'S THE WHOLE THING. THESE ARE ALL THE CALCULATORS SIDE BY SIDE. AND THEN THE NEXT PAGE GIVES YOU YOUR BOTTOM LINE. THAT PURPLE CIRCLE THERE, SO ALL I WANTED TO DO WAS PRESENT TO YOU TONIGHT. THAT UM, THE FIGURE THAT WE GAVE YOU EARLIER 3 12,000,061. THIS IS 12,000,005 02, AND IT'S STILL NOT THE FINAL NUMBER BECAUSE THE STATE UH, STILL HAS TO WAIT FOR THEIR FINAL ADM NUMBER, BUT THEY'RE SO CLOSE THAT YOU KNOW THAT? I JUST BUT I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THAT'S WHAT THE FIGURE IS. OKAY OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH . THANK YOU. WERE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ON THESE CALCULATORS? RIGHT. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH.THANK YOU. ALRIGHT NOW CIRCLE BACK AROUND UNDER SPECIAL REPORTS. I KNOW MR KIM PRITCHARD. UM, IS HERE. UM WE TALKED ABOUT SOME POSSIBLE UM. ISSUES ON BLIGHT. I THINK, MR PRITCHARD CORRECT. UH RIGHT. I'M NOT UP ON YOUR LATEST MOTIVE OPERATED, BUT I WOULD HAVE SIGNED UP AS USUAL. BETTER THOUGHT THIS WAS A REGULAR COUNSELING TONIGHT. SO ANYWAY, I'M KEN PRITCHARD, 11 13 OVERBROOK ROAD. UH, PETERSBURG, VIRGINIA. UM, I JUST HEARD THAT UH AND NICE TO SEE ALL OF YOU UP THERE LOOK GOOD AT A DISTANCE, SO GOT THE WHOLE PICTURE IN TODAY, SO THAT'S A GREAT THING. UM I NOTICED THAT MR JONES AND MR CARTER HAD A MEETING ON DERELICT PROPERTIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. I THINK IN THEIR AWARDS LAST WEEK AND I WANTED TO JUST COMMENT BRIEFLY TO FIND OUT IF. IF ANY OF THE BLIGHT ORDINANCE IS THAT WE HAVE ON THE BOOKS WOULD BE APPLICABLE TO SOME OF THE, UH, THINGS THAT I'VE BEEN OBSERVING OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS AND I WANNA HOW DO I GET THIS UP THERE FOR Y'ALL? CHIEF.
WE'VE GOT A GREAT OPPORTUNITY IN THE CITY RIGHT NOW TO, UH, REAL ESTATE WISE TO TAKE CARE OF SOME ISSUES WITH A LOT OF THE DERELICT PROPERTIES, ESPECIALLY ON THE WEST HIGH STREET AREA, WHICH IS UNDERGOING A LOT OF RENOVATION AND REDEVELOPMENT. UM THE HOUSE THAT ARE PICTURED THERE FOR YOU ALL I STARTED EMAILING AND ASKING ABOUT THAT ALMOST TWO YEARS AGO, AND THIS
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IS TODAY'S CONDITION OF THE HOUSE, AND NOTHING HAS BEEN DONE NOW, UM. UH THANK CHIEF REED TOLD ME THAT IT WAS IN THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE ABOUT 68 MONTHS AGO, AND I JUST LIKE TO KNOW IF THERE'S ANYTHING GOING ON. I REALIZED THAT ARE OUT OF STATE. UH PEOPLE WHO OWN THIS HOUSE, AND I THINK THEY STARTED TO DO IT AS A FLIP HOME ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO. SO THIS IS JUST A SMALL EXAMPLE OF A LOT OF THINGS. THAT ARE AROUND THE CITY . UH, I'LL GO BACK TO WEST HIGH STREET. AND MY QUESTION IS, ARE THERE ORDINANCES THAT CAN MAKE THE TENANT OR LANDLORD OR OWNER ? UM MOVE THEIR WAREHOUSES FROM THE FRONT PORCHES TO THE BACKYARD SO THAT YOU DON'T SEE ALL OF THIS JUNK IN THE YARD? I THINK THEY HAVE TO HAVE A PERMIT TO HAVE A JUNKYARD IN A RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT. MAYBE SO MAYBE YOU ALL COULD LOOK INTO THAT. AND LET ME KNOW. UH WHAT WE CAN DO BECAUSE WE HAVE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY RIGHT NOW TO MAKE THAT STREET LOOK GREAT BECAUSE THERE'S ABOUT HALF THE HOUSES HAVE BEEN REMODELED. THERE'S ABOUT SIX OR EIGHT MORE UNDER, YOU KNOW, CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW, AND THAT WOULD REALLY HELP THE NEIGHBORHOOD HELPED THE REAL ESTATE AND HELP PEOPLE, UH , FIND HOMES AND PETER SMART BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT'S THE LOWEST NUMBER OF HOUSES ON THE MARKET. AND PETERSBURG. I'VE SEEN, UH IN THE 12 YEARS. I'VE BEEN IN THE REAL ESTATE BUSINESS, SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND HOPE TO HEAR FROM YOU SOON.THANK YOU. MR MAYOR. YES COUNSELOR COVER. I WOULD ASK THE CITY MANAGER TO PUT 1917 POWER TAN ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES LIST AND LET'S SEE IF WE CAN GET SOMETHING DONE ON THAT. UH FULLY , UH, SYMPATHIZE WITH WHAT MR PRITCHARD SAID HE'S BEEN EMAIL IN THE CITY ABOUT THIS FOR TWO YEARS, AND, UH NO PROGRESS HAS BEEN MADE. AND UNFORTUNATELY, IT IS A CITYWIDE PROBLEM. I THINK, MR PRITCHARD FOR BRINGING THIS ONE EMPHASIZING IT. I THINK WE ALL KNEW IT TO BE TRUE. BUT SOMETIMES IT IT TAKES A LITTLE BIT OF EMPHASIS TO GET ANYTHING DONE. ESPECIALLY IN PETERSBURG CITY HALL. SO, UM AH. I HOPE THAT WHEN WE HAVE OUR SECOND MONDAY MEETING OH, I GUESS THAT WILL BE APRIL. THE 10TH. UH UM. WE CAN TALK ABOUT 1917 POWER TAIL. THANK YOU, MR PRITCHARD.
THANK YOU. RIGHT COUNSELOR JONES. MR PRITCHARD WHEN YOU SPEAK OF WAREHOUSES? WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THAT? WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? THE DUMPSTERS OR .
AND ANSWER HIS QUESTION. THERE IS ORDINANCES. WHAT NUMBER ONE IS A NUISANCE, AND WE DO HAVE LOOSENED ORDINANCE FOR THAT, AND IT SHOULD BE A DUMPSTER FOR THOSE THINGS FOR THOSE ITEMS, UM AS WELL, NOT JUST SITTING ON THE PORCH OR ANY WE CAN'T EVEN PARK CARS IN THE YARD. LIKE THAT, SO , YEAH, I WANT TO ACTUALLY SEE THE MANAGER TO, UM LOOK INTO THAT AS WELL. THANK YOU.
ALRIGHT, THAT LEADS TO, UM. THE NEXT ITEM, WHICH IS THE PRESENTATION OF RECOMMENDATIONS ON VACANT CITY BUILDINGS WITH RESPECT TO WHICH BUILDINGS ARE VIABLE COST TIMELINE AND STAFF MOVES. OKAY, SO WE CAN KEEP IT. ALRIGHT, MAN. MR WILLIAMS, HOW YOU DOING? GOOD EVENING. MAYOR VICE MAYOR REMEMBERS THE COUNCIL GOOD EVENING. LAST MONTH, I HAD A PRESENTATION ON ASSESSING THE CITY BUILDINGS AND WE WERE ASKED TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS. UH, COME UP WITH A BUDGET TIMELINE.
THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. SO WE'VE GOT THIS. I'VE GOT THE SAME, UM , SAME PROPERTIES AND WE GO THROUGH THEM ONE BY ONE. THE REPAIRS. UM ARE THE SAME AS THEY WERE LAST LAST MONTH. HOWEVER I'VE ADDED THE ASSESSED VALUE, THE BUDGET AND THE TIMELINE AS WELL AS THE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE CURRENT INACTIVE, UM AND SOME ACTIVE CITY ASSETS. THIS FIRST, UM BUILDING 1 42 NORTH UNION STREET USED TO BE THE OLD T BUILDING. RECOMMENDING THAT THIS BE A VIABLE BUILDING AS A RESULT OF IT NEEDED SOME WERE ASSESSED VALUE CURRENTLY, WHICH I WHICH I BELIEVE IS A LITTLE
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TOO LOW. IT'S 54,000. BUT THE BUDGET TO GET IT UP AND GO ON JUST 64,000. THE TIMELINE WOULD BE BY THE END OF MAY. JUST F Y I BACK IN 2018 AND 2019. WHETHER IT'S RIGHT OR WRONG TO ASSESS VALUABLES, 182,000 NEXT SLIDE GIRL. SECOND BUILDING IS THE OLD ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BUILDING.400 EAST WASHINGTON STREET. UM ALSO RECOMMENDED THAT THIS AGAIN BE AVAILABLE BUILDING WITH THE WITH THE ACCOMPANY REPAIRS. ASSESSED VALUE IS CURRENTLY 322,000 BUDGET IS A ABOUT 50,000 AND TIMELINE WOULD BE MID JUNE. NEXT BUILDING. UM THIS BUILDING IS THE OLD FACILITIES BUILDING.
IT REALLY DOESN'T NEED. IT'S AN ACTIVE CITY ASSET REALLY DOESN'T NEED A LOT. UM JUST SOME GENERAL CLEANING PAINTING. UM THERE WERE THOSE TYPES OF THINGS IN ADDITION TO THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY. THERE'S ALSO A HUGE PARKING LOT. THAT'S ALSO PART OF IT MAKES UP THE ASSESSED VALUE IF YOU SEE THERE SINCE BABE. THE WHOLE UM PARCEL IS 236,000. THE BUILDING IS, UH, 86,000. THE NEXT. PROPERTY WOULD BE THE ONE OH, SIX WEST TAB, THE FORMER COLD COMPLIANCE BUILDING AND RECOMMENDING THAT THIS BUILDING BE DEMOLISHED AS A RESULT OF MOLD ON THE INSIDE REMOTE IN THE BASEMENT AREA, IT WOULD REPAIR COSTS WILL EXCEED $300,000 JUST TO GET IT BACK. JUST TO GET IT BACK SO THAT IT COULD BE HABITABLE AND WORK WITH SOMEBODY CAN WORK IN GROUPS CAN WORK IN IT AND THEN ALSO SAYS VALUE RATING IS 171,000. UM WHICH I BELIEVE IN THIS CURRENT CONDITION IS TOO HIGH WITH THE MOLD ISSUE THAT IT HAS BUDGET WOULD BE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF 1 10 TO 1 35 FOR THE DEMOLITION AND THE TIMELINE WOULD BE DECIDED. ALSO, ONE MORE THING IS UM, OBVIOUSLY, THIS IS. NEXT TO THE ATI BUILDING. AND IF YOU KNOW THAT THERE'S A THERE'S STAIRS RIGHT THERE THAT, UM AND SO THERE'S A BASEMENT ON BOTH SIDES, SO THERE MAY BE SOME ADDITIONAL COST TO, UM TO THE WALL THAT WOULD BE NEEDED TO MAKE SURE THAT IS SECURE IF THAT BUILDING IS DEMOLISHED. NEXT BUILDING NEXT NEXT SLIDE. OKAY, WE GOT 400. FARMERS STREET.
CURRENTLY WE KNOW THAT THIS IS INACTIVE CITY ASSET, HOWEVER, UM, CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW, THE THERE IS A. PROJECT PHASE ONE OF THE PROJECT TO CURE THE EXTERIOR AUDIT. PROBLEMS ON IN THE EXTERIOR ON THE EXTERIOR OF THE BUILDING. THE CONTENTS. ALL OF THE CONTENTS HAVE BEEN REMOVED FROM THE BUILDING. WE HAD SOME WATER DAMAGE. THAT WAS AN INSURANCE CLAIM IN WHICH WE GOT ABOUT $800,000 BACK. THE OTHER SIDE OF THE BUILDING, AND WE DIG REMOVED EVERYTHING OUT OF THE BUILDING. SO THAT'S WE ALSO HAVE SOME PHASE TWO, WHICH WE'RE WORKING WITH ENGINEERS NEAR, UM AS WELL AS CHIEF CHRISTIAN. AND THEN ALSO SO WE'RE SEEING 20 FOR FISCAL YEAR 24 25. CURRENT CURRENT ASSESS EVALUATE NEXT $2.5 MILLION FOR THE 42,000 PLUS SQUARE FEET. FOR THIS BUILDING.
AH! WE'VE GOT CITY HALL. SO CURRENTLY JUST OBVIOUSLY, THIS IS A CURRENT ACTIVE CITY ASSET WILL BE, UM REPLACING THE ROOF WITHIN THE NEXT MONTH. THE ROOF WILL BE REPLACED AFTER THE ROOF IS REPLACED. UM THERE ARE SOME INTERIOR WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE TO SOME OF THE WALLS. SOME OF THE PLASTER WALLS. ALSO THERE'S A TEST ORDER FOR THE RESTROOMS TO BE RENOVATED AND THIS BUILDING AS WELL AS THE NEXT SLIDE, WHICH WOULD BE THE ANNEX BUILDING. UM SO. ALSO WITH THIS RENOVATION, OR WITH THIS WORK WE'VE GOT NOT JUST THE RESTROOMS BUT ALSO WE WOULD LOOK AT THE WINDOWS ON THE FRONT SIDE OF THE BUILDING. ESPECIALLY WITH THE REPEAT THE REPAIRS TO THE HOTEL ON THE BACK. AND THE SAD WE WON'T BE ABLE TO GET THOSE DONE IN FISCAL YEAR 24, BUT WE POSSIBLY MAY BE ABLE TO GET THE WINDOWS ON THE TAB. STREETSIDE DONE AS WELL. EXCESSIVE VALUES.
430,000 CURRENTLY. AND LAST, BUT NOT LEAST, WE'VE GOT CITY HALL ANNEX, WHICH THE RESTROOMS IN HERE. THERE'S A TASK ORDER ALSO HERE, TOO. TO RENOVATE THE BATHROOMS AND IN THIS PARTICULAR BUILDING AND THAT WE HAVE INVESTED BACK IN FISCAL YEAR 20. WE DID INVEST ABOUT $300,000 TO
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THE ROOF, THE SOFFIT, AND WE DID SOME BRICK MASONRY WORK ON THE BUILDING ITSELF. RIGHT NOW IS PARTIALLY THIS IS PARTIALLY BEING YOU LAST CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW. CURRENT ASSESS VALUES OF 445. $1000 OF QUESTIONS. COUNCILOR COVER. LET'S START AT THE LAST OF THOSE THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT MR WILLIAMS AND GO TO THE FRONT. UM THE LAST ONE WAS ONE. OH, THREE WEST TAB STREET. UM WHAT IS THE INTENDED ULTIMATE USE THAT WE'RE GONNA. MAKE OF THIS BUILDING AFTER SPENDING $300,000 ON IT. OKAY. SO THE FIRST. THE SECOND FLOOR HAS 5 TO 6 OFFICES. BACON RIGHT NOW. THAT COULD BE YOU LAST UM PUBLIC WORKS DOESN'T SAY. WHO GOES IN THE BUILDING. WE'RE JUST ASSESSING THE BUILDING AND TELLING YOU WHAT'S THERE FOR? FOR STAFF TO POSSIBLY USE AND NO PREVIOUSLY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WAS ON THE SECOND FLOOR OF THAT BUILDING PRIOR TO THEM. MOVING TO 30 FRANKLIN. ALSO. THE FIRST FLOOR CURRENT LIBERATE NAILS BEING YOU LAST. WE'VE GOT PUBLIC SAFETY. ON THE FIRST FLOOR. THE BASEMENT. HAS I WANT TO SAY ABOUT TWO OR THREE PEOPLE. FOR FROM THE FIRE MARSHAL THERE, BUT THERE ARE SOME ALSO SOME OFFICES. ON IN THE BASEMENT.THERE'S SOME OFFICES THERE AS WELL. SO I CAN SAY IT'S NOT FOR ME TO SAY WHO GOES WHERE AND WHAT? BUT THERE ARE THERE IS SOME SPACE. PROBABLY MORE SPACE THAN ANY BUILDING. WITHOUT PRESENTED THUS FAR, PROBABLY OUTSIDE OF MAYBE I'LL SAY YES. MORE SPACE IN THIS BUILDING AND ANY OF THEM. I THINK THAT I PRESENTED THANK YOU, MR WILLIAMS . MR. WALDMAN. I SHOULD HAVE DIRECTED MY QUESTION TO YOU. ARE WE GOING TO BE ABLE TO USE ONE? OH THREE WEST TAB AFTER WE SPEND $300,000 ON IT. AND IF SO, FOR WHAT? SO PART OF THE THOUGHT PROCESS WITH 300. WEST TAB IS THIS WOULD BE IS JUST ONE OF THE LOCATIONS THAT I'VE DISCUSSED WITH THE JUDGES FOR TEMPORARY COURTROOM WHEN UNDERTAKING THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE NEW COURTHOUSE, UTILIZING THE WHAT USED TO BE IN MY REMEMBER MY CHILDHOOD KIND OF AN OPEN EVENT SPACE IN THERE AS THE COURTROOM AND UTILIZING THAT SPACE IS HELPING US WITH THAT TRAINS OR TRADITION DURING THAT TIME. SO THAT WOULD BE MOST IMMEDIATELY THE FIRST THOUGHT THERE AND THEN BEYOND THAT, ONCE WE'RE FINISHED WITH THE COURT, AND THEY MOVE OUT, THEN WE WOULD LOOK AT WHAT WE COULD DO. BUT WE DO HAVE.
THIS IS ONE OF THE BUILDINGS THAT WE DO HAVE OFFICE SPACE AND THAT WE CAN UTILIZE AS WE BEGIN TO THINK ABOUT. LONGER TERM CITY HALL. CONSOLIDATION OF PEOPLE THIS WILL UTILIZE KEEPS US IN WITHIN THE SAME PROXIMITY OF THE OF THE MAIN CITY HALL WITH SOME STAFF. GOOD, GOOD, THAT'S FINE.
UM I'M NOT OBJECTING TO IT BEING PUT TO GOOD USE. I JUST WONDERED WHAT THE GOOD USE WAS. LET ME GO TO 400 FARMER STREET. WE HAVE REHAB IN THAT OF OR THE IMMEDIATE USED BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. UM AT THE SAME TIME THE DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL SERVICES HAD BEEN IN THIS BUILDING AND WE'RE NOW PAYING $386,000 A YEAR OR SOME GOSH AWFUL NUMBER LIKE THAT. AH IN LEASE PAYMENTS FOR THE, UH, DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL SERVICES. I WONDER IF THAT THE KIND OF THE MENU AT THE DANCE THAT WE MIGHT CONSIDER DANCING HERE IS WE PUT THE POLICE IN THIS BUILDING UNTIL WE GET THE NEW COURTHOUSE COMPLEX CONSTRUCTED. AND THEN THE NEW COURTHOUSE COMPLEX WOULD INCLUDE POLICE HEADQUARTERS. THEY ARE ON COURTHOUSE HILL. UH AND THE POLICE WOULD THEN MOVE.
OUT OF 400 FARMERS STREET INTO THE NEW POLICE HEADQUARTERS AND THE DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL SERVICES. WHO'S NOW RUNNING A BILLET. ALMOST $100,000 A YEAR RENT. WOULD MOVE INTO THE DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL COUNSELING CUB RIVER AS A JUST AS A POINT OF ORDER. THE STATE PAYS THAT 400,000 86% 85% OF THAT PERCENT OF THAT, SO THAT'S NOT PUT THAT FALSE INFORMATION OUT HERE FOR THE PROBLEM. ABSOLUTELY NOT FALSE INFORMATION, MR MAYOR INFORMATION AS A POINT OF ORDER.
IT IS FALSE INFORMATION, MR MAYOR, SO WE'RE NOT GOING DOWN THAT ROAD WE HAVE BEEN RADICALLY AS A POINT OF ORDER. WE ARE SPECIFICALLY TALKED ABOUT A PRESENTATION FOR VACANT CITY BUILDINGS, EXACTLY EVALUATING CURRENT CITY ASSETS RIGHT NOW. NOW AND WHAT THE STATE PAY AND WENT TO CITY PAY. I THINK THAT'S PART OF THAT. STICK TO THE AGENDA CAUSE MACABRE, MR MAYOR.
I AM STICKING TO THE AGENDA AND I WANT TO KNOW WHETHER THE $2.5 MILLION IS REALLY COULD END UP
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SAVING US ALMOST 400,000 YEAR NOW, IF WE MOVE THE DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL SERVICES INTO THIS BUILDING, WOULD WE GET PAID? UH ANY OF THAT MONEY THAT THE STATE IS NOW PAYING COUNSELOR COVER? THAT'S THAT IS A STATE QUESTION RIGHT THERE. IT'S A STATE AGENCY , AND THEY'VE MADE THE DECISION TO PUMP THAT MONEY INTO THE PLACE ON ON REEVES ROAD. AND AT THIS CURRENT TIME AND TALKING ABOUT OUR STATE OFFICIALS THEY HAVE A FACILITY THAT DOESN'T HAVE MODE THAT'S CAPABLE OF SERVICING THE PEOPLE THERE, AND THEY ARE PAYING THE COST OF THEIR 85% AND UNTIL YOU HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITH THE COMMONWEALTH, YOU YOU'RE GOING DOWN THE SLIPPERY ROAD TRYING TO, UH, TO PRESUME WAS WAS GOING TO BE THE STATE'S POINT OF WHERE THEY WANT SOCIAL SERVICES TO BE LOCATED, SO THAT'S A TOTALLY OFF THE TOPIC. DISCUSSION MR MAYOR, QUITE AGENDA. QUITE SURPRISED AT YOUR COMMENTS. THIS IS A WORK SESSION, AND I THINK WE NEED TO DO SOME WORK. RIGHT? BUT THIS THIS IS THIS IS THIS IS JUST NOT THE FORM FOR THAT UNTIL YOU HAVE YOUR STATE OFFICIALS HERE TO DISCUSS THAT WE'RE JUST PISSING IN THE WIND. I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE KIND OF LANGUAGE WE OUGHT TO USE IN PUBLIC. BUT AH, I DO THINK THAT THE CITY MANAGER OUGHT TO EXPLORE THIS AND REPORT BACK TO US. CAN YOU DO THAT? MAYBE YOU ALREADY KNOW THE ANSWER, MR ALTMAN. MAYBE WE CAN'T, UH, GET ANY OF THE, UH OF THE STATE MONEY TO HELP US. UH AFRAID, UH, THE SPACE. UM. NEEDS OF THE DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL SERVICES IF WE PUT THEM INTO 400 FARMERS STREET BOOM WHILE I WASN'T HERE WHEN THE DECISION WAS MADE TO RELOCATE OUT OF FARMER STREET MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE STATEMENT FROM THE STATE DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL SERVICES WAS THEY WERE LEAVING, AND THEY THEY WERE NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES COMING BACK TO THAT BUILDING. SO I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT, UH, WE HAVE AN OPTION THERE. BUT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS THE REALIZATION OF THAT THAT BECAUSE WE NEED TO MOVE OUR POLICE STATION IN ORDER TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE COURTHOUSE COMPLEX. SO THIS WOULD THIS WOULD FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE AT THIS POINT FOR THE IMMEDIATE AND FEET AND LONG TERM FUTURE, BE THE HOME OF THE PITTSBURGH POLICE DEPARTMENT.AND THEN WE WOULD LOOK AT WHAT WE COULD DO FROM ANOTHER PERSPECTIVE AS TO ADDRESS SOCIAL SERVICES. I KNOW WE ARE REQUIRED IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN TO PROVIDE OFFICE SPACE. TO FOR SOCIAL SERVICES AND HEALTH DEPARTMENT. UM THEY DO PAY THE BULK THE VAST MAJORITY OF THAT THAT BILL THERE , BUT MY UNDERSTANDING AND TALKING TO STAFF WAS THAT THE DEPARTMENT WAS NOT INTERESTED IN COMING BACK. SO WE'RE TRYING TO RE UTILIZE IT TO MAXIMIZE OUR SPACE USAGE ARE OUR NUMBER ONE NEED AT THE MOMENT IS TO GET POLICE DEPARTMENT OUT OF THE OLD. POLICE STATION. WE'VE HAD SOME ISSUES THERE. THIS SOLVES THAT PROBLEM FROM US FROM A SHORT TERM AND LONG TERM PERSPECTIVE, AND IT ALLOWS US TO MOVE FORWARD WITH CONSTRUCTION DEMOLITION THAT BUILDING TO FREE UP THE SPACE TO BUILD THE NEW COURTHOUSE COMPLEX AND MOVE FORWARD IN THE LONG TERM AT THE COURTHOUSE AREA WITH THE COURTHOUSE AND THEN WE WILL DRESS ANY KIND OF SOCIAL SERVICE NEEDS DOWN THE ROAD. ALRIGHT, HAVEN'T HAD ANY CONVERSATIONS WITH THE STATE REGARDING THEIR.
THEY DON'T. I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY ISSUES THEY HAVE CURRENTLY AND THE LOCATION THERE IN OR DESIRE TO LEAVE. WELL THEY MAY NOT, UM , BUT MAY WORK SESSION. WOULD YOU COME BACK TO THIS COUNCIL WITH WITH MORE INFORMATION SPECIFICALLY? UM. OH WOULD THE STATE OF VIRGINIA PAY THE CITY OF PETERSBURG ANY SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY? IF THE DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL SERVICES WERE TO MOVE BACK INTO 400 FARMERS STREET AND ALSO IS THERE ANY REASON WHY THE 400 FARMERS STREET IS, UM UM, SUFFICIENT FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, BUT NOT SUFFICIENT FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL SERVICES. I CAN'T UNDERSTAND HOW THE OFFICE WOULD BE SATISFACTORY FOR THE POLICE, BUT NOT BE SATISFACTORY FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL SERVICES. SO IF YOU COULD EXPLAIN THAT TO US AT ALL MAY WORK SESSION, UM AND IT MAY BE A GOOD ANSWER, BUT I DON'T THINK WE KNOW IT RIGHT NOW. I WANT TO SPEAK OUT OF TURN. JUST AT THIS TIME WE'VE DISCUSSED THIS WAS WE'RE GOING DOWN THIS ROAD MANY, MANY TIMES AND I DON'T KNOW WHY WE KEEP CIRCLING BACK AROUND WHERE WE'VE HAD DISCUSSION WITH THE STATE ON THE STATUS OF SOCIAL SERVICES, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW WE FEEL LIKE WE'RE GOING TO PUSH THE STATE INTO GOING WHERE THEY DON'T WANT TO GO. THEY MADE A DECISION. THEY PAID THE CALLS. THEY PUT THE MONEY IN PLACE. WHY YOU WANT TO JEOPARDIZE OUR FUNDING BY CONTINUING TO POKE AT SOCIAL SERVICES? WHICH IS IN ONE OF THE BETTER FACILITIES IN THIS CITY. THE REST OF THE CITY FACILITIES IS DEPLORABLE. THEY PULLED HIM OUT OF THERE BECAUSE
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OF THE MOLD BECAUSE IT WAS DEPLORABLE CITY COUNCIL MADE A DECISION TO PUT OPERA MONEY IN HERE TO RENOVATE THIS BUILDING FOR A CITY ASSET BECAUSE THAT'S PETERSBURG POLICE. PIPES IS BUSTING THEIR BUILDING. THE BUILDING IS FLOODED OUT. THEY HAVE ALL TYPES OF ISSUES. THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH. SPACE AND CITY COUNCIL MADE A DECISION TO USE THAT MONEY TO PUT POLICE HERE SO I DON'T I DON'T SEE WHERE CITY COUNCIL NEEDS TO KEEP GOING BACK AND FORTH WITH HIS SOCIAL SERVICES DISCUSSION. WHEN WE MADE A DECISION, LET'S STICK WITH THE DECISION OF THE BODY.AND I DON'T SEE WHERE WHERE, WHERE THE CITY MANAGER SHOULD BE WASTING HIS TIME GOING BACK DOWN TO TRY TO CHANGE REVERSE COURSE OF WHAT CITY COUNCIL HAS ALREADY DECIDED. WE MUST DO AND SAY WHAT WE DO. YOU KNOW, WE MUST DO WHAT WE SAY SO IS NO NEED TO REVERSE COURSE ON ON THIS COURSE OF ACTION. WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT THESE ASSETS THAT CITY COUNCIL NEEDS TO LOOK AT DOING WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO WITH AS FAR AS VIABILITY, CAUSE TIMELINE AND STAFF MOVES ON CITY ASSETS THAT WE HAVE MULTIPLE PLACES THROUGHOUT THE CITY WITH WITH PLACES BEING DISPERSED ALL THROUGHOUT THE CITY. AND RIGHT NOW, PETERSBURG POLICE NEEDS THIS SPACE IN ORDER TO HAVE AN ADEQUATE FACILITY AND WE NEED THAT SPACE WHERE PETERSBURG POLICE IS TO, UH. TO BASICALLY TEAR DOWN TO BUILD THE COURT COMPLEX. SO ARE WE GOT WE GOT TO LOOK FORWARD. WE JUST CAN'T KEEP LOOKING BACKWARDS AND DIGGING UP OLD SKELETONS. THINKING THAT WE'RE GONNA BRING IT BACK TO LIFE. AND SOCIAL SERVICES HAS MADE THIS DECISION THAT THEY'RE GOING TO PUT MONEY OUT THERE ON RES ROAD. THEY HAVE A FACILITY TO SERVE. DON'T FORGET. WE HAVE 20,000 PEOPLE IN THIS CITY THAT THEY GET SOME SORT OF FORM OF BENEFIT FROM SOCIAL SERVICES, AND THE STATE HAS DECIDED THAT THEY NEEDED A LARGER FACILITY IN WHICH THEY PUT MONEY INTO UP TO UPDATE IT. THAT'S NOT CITIES COUNCIL'S DECISION TO MAKE THE STATE GO, WHICH WAY OR THE OTHER OFFERED OF CITY MANAGER TO HAVE TO EVALUATE. WHERE A STATE ASSET IS GOING TO BE THAT IS COUNTER PRODUCTIVE TIME. SO I FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO GO BACK DOWN THAT ROAD AND AT THIS POINT IN TIME, I SAY CITY COUNCIL, UM, HAS MADE A DECISION. MR CITY MANAGER ON WHAT'S GOING THERE? WE NEED TO STAY. STAY THE COURSE ON THAT.
COUNCILMAN JONES. THANK YOU. I AM. IT GOES BACK MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. THIS GOES BACK TO, UH, ACCOUNTABILITY. AND PREVENTION. REGARDLESS OF WHO'S GOING IN THAT BUILDING. UM WE'RE PUTTING MONEY INTO IT. RIGHT? THIS BUILDING WAS MADE AT THE SAME TIME THE OLD EMPLOYMENT OFFICE WAS MADE. THIS BUILDING ALSO HAS THE SAME EXACT ISSUES. THAT THE EMPLOYMENT OFFICE OVER WASHINGTON STREET HAD. WE ENDED UP DEMOLISHING THAT BUILDING BECAUSE OF THE DRAINAGE ISSUES.
BEHIND THE WALLS. SAME ISSUE YOU GOT HERE AND ONE OF MY QUESTIONS IS, I GUESS IS THE LEGIT QUESTION IS MAKE. ARE WE MAKING SURE. THAT WERE PREVENTING EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED AT THE OLD EMPLOYMENT OFFICE WHILE WE PUT MONEY INTO THIS BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE THIS A VIABLE BUILDING TO WHERE ANYBODY CAN GO IN, BUT THAT POLICE DEPARTMENT WHEN I TALK ABOUT PREVENTION AND ACCOUNTABILITY. SHOULD HAVE BEEN INSPECTED BY US PEOPLE. AND THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN OUT YESTERDAY. THAT PLACE IS DEPLOYABLE. DISPATCHES. I WORRY ABOUT THEM. OFFICERS ARE WORRIED ABOUT THEM. THE FIRE HAPPENED DOWNSTAIRS IN THAT BASEMENT RIGHT NOW THEY'RE TRAPPED. UPSTAIRS. EVERYBODY UPSTAIRS IS TRAPPED. YOU KNOW, AND WE GOT TO MOVE FAST.
CAUTIOUSLY BUT WE GOT TO GET THEM OUT OF THAT BUILDING DOWNTOWN NOT JUST FOR THE COURTS, BUT FOR THEIR SAFETY. YOU KNOW, UM, IS REALLY, UH, BEAUTIFUL TO DIG OUT OF WORK IN THOSE CONDITIONS. SAME CONDITIONS THAT SOCIAL SERVICES WORKING IN THERE, SO I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO FIX NOW, BUT CINEMAS THEY GOT WE GOT TO GET GET THEM COPS OUT OF THAT BUILDING. DISPATCH, WE GOTTA FIND HIM SOMEWHERE TO GO. AND MANAGE IF WE TALKED ABOUT IT BEFORE, BUT WE GOTTA FIND HIM SOMEWHERE. IT'S DANGEROUS. A FIRE HAZARD IN THERE, AND I WANT THAT FIRE MARSHAL DIVISION TO DO AN INSPECTION ON THERE. ON THAT. BUILDING I JUST WALKED THROUGH AND SAY, YEP, IT'S BAD. I WANT PAPERWORK. BECAUSE SOME HAPPENED THEM. FAMILIES ARE COMING TO US, AND THEY WANT TO KNOW WHY WE HADN'T BEEN IN THERE. SO WE NEED THE FIRE MARSHAL DIVISION TO INSPECT ALL OF THESE BUILDINGS ON HIS LIST, SO WE JUST HAD THAT PAPERWORK, ESPECIALLY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT COUNSELOR. COVER LET ME GO TO ONE. OH, SIX WEST TAB. IT'S A LITTLE IRONIC THAT THAT'S WHERE NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES HEAD IT'S OFFICE UNTIL ABOUT WHAT TWO YEARS AGO AND NOW IT'S IN SUCH BAD SHAPE. IT HAS TO BE TORN DOWN. AH! I DON'T KNOW QUITE HOW
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THAT COULD ALL BE BUT I WOULD JUST POINT THAT OUT AND ACTUALLY , IT WAS IN BAD SHAPE. WHEN THEY WERE IN IT. THEY DID NOTHING TO GET IT FIXED AND THEY WORKED OUT OF IT. NOW WHAT'S THE TIMELINE ON DEMOLISHING THAT BUILDING JUST SAYS TO BE DETERMINED. I WOULD THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE FAIRLY EASY TO DETERMINE. WE DON'T WE DON'T. WE HAVEN'T ESTABLISHED THE TIMELINE YET TO DEMOLISH. WE WEREN'T SURE THAT'S THE DIRECTION WE WANT TO GO. I MEAN, OUR RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE NOT TO INVEST $300,000 INTO A BUILDING. MORE AND REPAIRS IN THE BUILDING IS OF VALUE, NOT QUESTIONING THAT I'M WONDERING WHEN'S IT GONNA HAPPEN? BUT AGAIN WE HAVEN'T SET A TIMELINE YET. WE WERE HAVING THESE DISCUSSIONS WITH Y'ALL TODAY.WE'VE GOT TO GET COME AND ASK FOR FUNDING TO DO THE DEMO IN BELIEVE IT'S IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT SO WE WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH A FEW. HOOPS WITH THE RB. TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS OR IF THE BUILDING OFFICIAL DECLARES IT AN IMMINENT THREAT. THEN WE COULD MOVE FORWARD WITH DEMO. ALRIGHT GOOD. LET'S GO TO 18 98 MIDWAY COUNSELOR COVER COUNSELOR. JONES HAS A FOLLOW UP QUESTION TO ON THAT ONE. OKAY, BEFORE YOU GO TO THE NEXT ONE. COUNSELOR. ONE OH, SIX TAB STREET. I WAS IN THAT BUILDING, AND, UH, THERE'S NO WINDOWS IN THEIR PERIOD TO LET UP, ROLL UP OR ANYTHING. THE BASEMENT FIELD WITH WATER, BUT MY QUESTION IS, IF IT'S ASSESSED AT 171,000 SCROLL UP A LITTLE BIT MORE, PLEASE LET ME SEE THE REST OF THOSE NUMBERS. AND HIS BUDGETED FOR 110 TO DEMOLISH IT. WHY CAN'T WE SELL THAT BUILDING? AND WE GET THAT 171,000 OR PERCENTAGE OF IT. AND LET WHOEVER BY IT EITHER DEMOLISH IT AND PAY FOR IT OR BRING IT UP TO COOL. SO WHAT? YEAH. SO THAT'S PART OF THE CONVERSATION, NOT HAVING A DEFINITIVE ON IF YOU WANT. WE WANT TO SELL SOME OF THESE ASSETS. WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT NOW. I WOULD CAUTION.
THAT AND I WOULD JUST ASK A SIMPLE QUESTION. WOULD YOU PAY $171,000 FOR BUILDING THAT YOU HAD TO PUT 300,000 IN SO MOST BUILDERS AREN'T GOING TO DO THAT. THEY'RE GOING TO TRY TO GET IT AS LOW COST AS POSSIBLE, KNOWING WHAT THEY'VE GOT TO SPEND TO FIX IT, BUT THEY'RE GETTING IT FOR LOWER COST AS POSSIBLE. NOW EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN COMING UP HERE HAVE BEEN GETTING IT FOR UNDER 50% SO PUT IT ON THE MARKET AND PROBABLY GO FOR 100 50% RIGHT NOW. YOU KNOW, RIGHT? SO BUT THAT'S JUST THE THING. I MEAN, WE'RE GONNA WE WOULD GET OR WE WOULD GET AN OFFER. THAT BUT I WOULD EXPECT IT TO BE LOWER THAN THE ASSESSED TOTAL VALUE JUST BECAUSE OF KNOWING WHAT YOU HAVE TO PUT INTO IT TO GET IT UP BECAUSE YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO GO TO THE BANK. AND JUSTIFY GOING TO THE BANK AND GETTING THOSE DOLLARS. THE BANK IS GOING TO LOOK AT WHAT IS ASSESSED AT AND WHAT FROM A MARKET PERSPECTIVE YOU COULD GET, AND THEY'RE NOT GOING TO LOAN YOU. MORE THAN THEY THEY FEEL LIKE THEY CAN GET OUT OF IT. IF YOU THINK IF THEY HAD TO GO AND TAKE IT AND SELL IT AND UNDERSTAND ALL THAT, BUT WE'RE SELLING IT. WE'RE NOT BUYING IT, SO THAT'S ON THEM WHAT THEY'VE BEEN TELLING, BUT WE WANT THAT MONEY. YOU KNOW THAT'S WHAT WE WANT, YOU KNOW, SO CAUTION THAT I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO GET FULL VALUE PROBABLY WON'T GET FULL VALUE. BUT WE DON'T HAVE TO PAY 110 TO KNOCK IT DOWN. SOMEBODY ELSE WOULD. YOU KNOW, SO AND WE CAN CERTAINLY PUT THAT ONE AND NEXT DOOR BECAUSE NEXT DOOR WHERE THERE'S THE AMOUNT IY SMALL OFFICE FOR I T USED TO BE. YOU COULD PACKAGE THOSE TWO TO SOMEONE AND SELL IT IF YOU WANTED TO. WE WANTED TO THANK YOU. ALRIGHT COUNSELOR. COVER SO LET'S THANK YOU, MR MAYOR. LET'S GO TO 18 98 MIDWAY, UM WE TALKED ABOUT THE ASSESSED VALUE. UM, NO INDICATION AS TO INTENDED USE WHILE WE'RE NOT SELLING THAT IS THAT SURPLUS PROPERTY, UNDERSTAND IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN.
WE HAVE SOME LEVEL OF STORAGE IN THIS FACILITY NOW. WELL THERE'S A BEAR IN THE STREET. THERE'S A WAREHOUSE THAT WE HAVE SOME CITY FURNITURE CITY SHOP, ALSO FOR THE SHOP FOR THE FACILITIES STAFF. THAT THEY STILL YOU LAST ONE OF THE OPTIONS HERE IS WE KNOW THAT AND IT'S NOT THE FINAL OPTIONS. I DON'T WANT TO SAY THAT THIS IS WHAT BUT AS AN INTERIM STEP IF WE HAD TO, YOU COULD LOOK AT THIS TO LOOK AT OUR ANIMAL SERVICES NEEDS BECAUSE THEY'RE IN BAD SHAPE.
WERE THERE AT THIS IS SITTING OUT IN THE MIDDLE OF BASICALLY, IT'S SURROUNDED BY THE WAREHOUSES AT THE END OF WASHINGTON STREET. THIS COULD BE AN OPTION IN THE SHORT TERM PENDING A LONG TERM SOLUTION TO LOOK AT POTENTIALLY RELOCATING SOME OF THAT ACTIVITY. AND WHAT WAS THAT ACTIVITY ANNUAL SERVICES NEEDS ANIMAL. I'M SORRY. ALRIGHT. WELL, IS THAT REALLY WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN WITH THIS? ONE OF THE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE EVALUATING AT THE MOMENT WE'VE GOT CONVERSATIONS THAT ARE ONGOING WITH WITH REGARD TO OUR ANIMAL SHELTER S P C A IS COMING IN. I THINK WE HAVE A MEETING TOMORROW TO TALK ABOUT. WHAT THEY MAY BE ABLE TO DO, BUT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, DO WE? IF WE HAVE TO MAKE A QUICK MOVE, THIS MAY BE A SHORT TERM SOLUTION TO US THAT WE MAY NEED TO HOLD IN RESERVE TO BE ABLE TO UTILIZE.
WELL WHEN WE HAVE OUR MAY WORK SESSION, WOULD YOU REPORT BACK TO US ON 18? 98 MIDWAY IF WE
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HAVE IF WE HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT WHAT WE'RE DOING AT THAT POINT, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE WILL WITH THE S P. C. A BUT I'LL PROVIDE ANY INFORMATION THAT I HAVE. THAT'S AN UPDATE. CERTAINLY.ALRIGHT AND LET'S GO BACK TO 400 EAST WASHINGTON. THERE'S NO USE SPECIFIED THERE. WHAT USE DO YOU ANTICIPATE? SO THAT BACK WE COULD MOVE I MEAN, YOU COULD PUT USED TO HOUSE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THAT THAT COULD BE AN OPTION OF COUNCIL WANTED TO EXPLORE THAT. WE ALSO HAVE TO STEP BACK AND REMEMBER. THIS PROBABLY GETS INCLUDED IN THE REDEVELOPMENT OF THAT SITE. WHEN WE HAVE THIS WHEN WE GO TO GET RID OF THE OLD HOTEL SITE, I DON'T SEE THIS OUTLIER BUILDING NOT BEING SOLD. THIS WOULD BE A PART OF THAT REDEVELOPMENT AND CERTAINLY WOULD BE CAUGHT UP IN ANY KIND OF RIGHT AWAY IMPROVEMENT FOR THE INTERCHANGE THAT WOULD BE DONE. THIS PROPERTY WOULD CERTAINLY GET SWALLOWED UP IN THAT. I UNDERSTAND, BUT WHEN IS THAT REDEVELOPMENT GOING TO TAKE PLACE? SO WE WILL BE PUTTING TOGETHER OUR FINAL PIECES TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS OR D H C D MONEY AND THEN BE ABLE TO START REDEVELOPMENT AGAIN. IN THE SHORT TERM, WE COULD USE IT FOR SOMETHING AND THE SHORT TERM YOU COULD LOOK AT PUTTING A DEPARTMENT OF SMALL DEPARTMENT IN THE BUILDING. JUST KNOWING IN THE LONG RUN. WE'RE GONNA, WE WOULD HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION ON RELOCATING THOSE DEPENDENT UPON WHEN THE INTERCHANGE IMPROVEMENTS WERE TO OCCUR, OR WE GET SOME INDICATION THAT THE THERE WOULDN'T BE BIG IN APPROVING IT. AND CHANGES IMPROVEMENTS THERE THAT WOULDN'T SWALLOW UP THE SITE THAT WE COULD THEN RE UTILIZE THE SITE FOR SOMETHING MORE. WELL, ARE YOU HEADING IN THE DIRECTION OF PUTTING THE DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT? IN 400 EAST WASHINGTON STREET UNTIL A DEVELOPMENT. UM. COMES ALONG AND REQUIRES THAT THE DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT MOVE OUT.
IT'S ONE OF THE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'M HOLDING THE RESERVE DEPENDENT UPON BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BRING A CONTRACT FOR RENEWAL FOR THE OFFICE SPACE WE'RE IN NOW. AND IT'S UM, HOLDING THE SPACE IN CASE OF COUNCIL DECIDES NOT TO GO IN THAT DIRECTION. WE WOULD HAVE THIS AVAILABLE. WELL YEAH, BUT IF WHEN YOU GONNA BRING THAT BEFORE COUNCIL BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO BE IN A BOX IF WE'RE NOT CAREFUL, BECAUSE AT LEAST I THINK EXPIRES IN AUGUST. AND IF WE'RE GOING TO MOVE THE DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN THE 400 EAST WASHINGTON WE NEED TO GET GET TO WORK ON THAT. DON'T WE ISSUES THERE. WE FEEL LIKE WE CAN MOVE FORWARD QUICKLY. MOST OF IT IS INTERIOR WORK. AH BUT WE WILL HAVE TIME BECAUSE WE'LL BREAK WE'RE GOING TO BRING THE RENEWAL OF THE CONTRACT WILL BEFORE AUGUST GOING TO BRING IT AT THE LAST MINUTE IN ORDER TO GET SO WE KNOW WE'RE MOVING FORWARD BECAUSE IT'S WHERE WE WILL. WE WILL HAVE TO PLAN FOR THAT. AS FAR AS THE BUDGET PROCESS. WELL, WHY DON'T YOU BRING THAT ONE? WE MAKE THAT DECISION SOONER RATHER THAN LATER AND THEN WE'LL KNOW WHETHER DOING START. UH MAKING IMPROVEMENTS TO 400 EAST WASHINGTON OR NOT, BUT I WANT TO KNOW MR CITY MANAGER. DON'T WE HAVE A SITE STUDY GOING ON FOR THAT OVER MODEST SITE. YES WE DO . DON'T WE NEED TO KNOW WHETHER THAT THAT PARCEL IS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND NOT BEFORE WE CAN MOVE FORWARD? ABSOLUTELY MAKING A DECISION BECAUSE BEING WE HAVE THOSE FUNDS. THAT'S THAT EXTRA SITE DEVELOPMENT. MONEY IS I DON'T SEE HOW YOU CAN JUMP PAST THAT AND JUST MOVE STRAIGHT INTO THIS BUILDING HERE WITHOUT UH, BREAKING THEIR PARCEL. DOWN TO WHAT? WHAT IS THE BEST USE FOR ALL OF IT, SO I DON'T KNOW WHETHER IT'S ANOTHER HOTEL COMPLEX OR WHATEVER. THERE'S THERE BEFORE WE START LOOKING AT PUTTING ANY TYPE OF FUNDS INTO THIS BUILDING. UM WE'LL COMPLETE I MEAN YES, I DON'T ANTICIPATE.
THAT THIS BUILDING WOULD BE CUT OUT OF THAT PARCEL FOR REDEVELOPMENT. I AM FULLY ANTICIPATE THAT WHATEVER REDEVELOPMENT OCCURS WILL INCLUDE THIS. PARCEL. THIS BUILDING IS PART OF THAT WHOLE REDEVELOPMENT PROCESS. SO WE DO HAVE THE STUDY ONGOING THAT SHOULD BE COMPLETED SHORTLY AND WE'LL BE IN A POSITION TO KNOW WHAT THEIR RECOMMENDATION IS.
BUT YOU KNOW, I WOULD SAY ADDRESS COUNSELOR CUTHBERT'S POINT. WE WILL HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION. REGARDING THE LEASE AS PART OF THE BUDGET PROCESS BECAUSE WE HAVE TO BUDGET MONEY FOR THAT. SO THAT TELLS ME THEN IF WE APPROVE A BUDGET, AND THERE'S NO MONEY PUT INTO LEASE FRANKLIN THAT THEN WE MOVE FORWARD WITH DOING SOMETHING ELSE, BUT WE LOOK, THE PAYBACK IS LESS THAN A YEAR. IF WE REHAB . 400 EAST WASHINGTON STREET FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. THE ESTIMATE HERE IS $51,000. OKAY? WE'RE PAYING. 63,000 ALSO NOW. TO HOUSE THE
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DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. SO IN ALL WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS A SITE DEVELOPMENT STUDY JUST TO STUDY. YOU KNOW HOW LONG'S IT TAKES FOR ACTION TO TAKE TO TAKE PLACE AFTER A STUDY IS COMPLETED A STUDY THAT'S ONGOING. IT'S PART OF OUR D H C D REQUIREMENT FOR THE MONEY WE RECEIVED, BUT WE ALSO HAVE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE SOLICITING INTEREST IN THE PROPERTY NOW. SO WE COULD SEE SOMETHING HAPPEN QUICKER. THEN A YEAR FROM NOW, WE JUST HAVE TO BE NIMBLE AND HAVING ABILITY THAT TO BE ABLE TO MOVE, BUT RIGHT NOW, IT HASN'T BEEN MY RECOMMENDATION IS TO SEE WHERE WE ARE WITH THE DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL, AND HOW COUNCIL WANTS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT COUNCIL SAYS YES, WE WANT TO SELL THIS ENTIRE PARCEL FOR THE REDEVELOPMENT OF A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT. WE'RE MOVING FORWARD. WE WILL MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT AND HAVE TO LOOK AT OTHER ALTERNATIVES IF WE DON'T WANT TO RENEW A LEASE AT FRANKLIN BUT UNTIL THEN, THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION. MISSISSIPPI MANAGER ALSO WANT TO CHIME IN, TOO, AND WE'RE DOING THIS STUDY FOR WASHINGTON STREET AND WITH ST CHANGES OVER THE TWO WAY AND IT'S GOING TO BE SOME SORT OF IMPROVEMENTS TO THAT WE'VE GOT TO FIND EVEN IF WE'RE GOING TO EVEN HAVE THIS PARCEL, UM, AVAILABLE ONCE YOU CHANGE THE INTERSECTION OVER TO A TWO WAY, SO THAT'S THAT'S IN THE WORKS AS WELL. WE ARE UNDERWAY WITH THAT STUDY IS ONGOING.THERE WILL BE INTERCHANGE IMPROVEMENTS THAT IF THEY ARE TURNED, BOTH TURNED TO WEIGH AGAIN. THERE WILL MOST CERTAINLY BE INTERCHANGE IMPROVEMENTS. WE DO NOT KNOW THE EXTENT AT THIS POINT TO WHICH THE RIGHT OF WAY NEEDS WILL BE REQUIRED THAT WILL BE REQUIRED. TO MAKE THOSE IMPROVEMENTS. SO THAT'S ANOTHER FACTOR THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT PREVIOUSLY. WE DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH OF THIS SITE WILL GET GOBBLED UP AS A RESULT OF THAT. SO WE COULD MAKE A SHORT TERM INVESTMENT TO FIND OUT THAT WE'RE TAKING IT FOR RIGHT AWAY. WE COULD PUT THE MONEY IN IT AND THEN I'LL BE SIX MONTHS LATER. WE HAVE SOMEONE WE'RE SELLING IT, SO I THINK WE'VE GOT SOME THINGS THAT WE NEED TO WORK THROUGH. FIRST BUT WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE AN ASSET THAT SHOULD WE NEED TO. WE COULD PUT PEOPLE IN THAT BUILDING. WELL, THE WAY I LOOK AT IT IS THIS WE SPEND $51,000 ON IT. $51,000 ON IT BETWEEN NOW AND WHEN THE LEASE EXPIRES IN AUGUST. WE MOVE THE DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INTO THAT BUILDING, EFFECTIVE WITH THE NEW TO LEASE TERM IN AUGUST OF 2023. WE SAVED $12,000 BAM BECAUSE WE SPENT 51 . WE'RE NOT HAVING TO SPEND 63.
SO WE'VE JUST SAVED $12,000. NOW NO ONE HAS CITY HALL WORKS. NOTHING IS GOING TO HAPPEN QUICKLY. NOTHING. AND THEREAFTER AFTER YEAR ONE. WE'RE GOING TO SAVE $63,000 A YEAR IF WE MOVE THE DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INTO 400 EAST WASHINGTON, SO IT SEEMS TO ME TO BE WISE. TWO. REHAB 400 EAST WASHINGTON NOW MAKE THAT DECISION NOW. MOVE THE DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INTO THAT BUILDING. IT'S A BEAUTIFUL LITTLE BUILD, AND THAT'S WHERE THE DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WAS AT ONE TIME. UM AND, UM, SEE HOW LONG IT TAKES BEFORE CITY HALL ACTUALLY DOES SOMETHING TO DISPOSE OF THAT PROPERTY AND US WOULD PREDICT THAT WE WILL BE PAID. SEVERAL YEARS WORTH OF $63,000. IF WE TOOK THAT APPROACH, DO YOU? DO YOU OPPOSE THAT APPROACH OF ORDER, MR MAYOR, MR MAYOR. YOU'VE GOT MEMBERS OF COUNCIL DOWN HERE WITH THEIR HANDS ON THE BUTTON. UM NO DISRESPECT TO COUNCILMAN.
COUPLE OF, BUT CAN YOU ACKNOWLEDGE THE COUNCIL MEMBERS DOWN HERE, PLEASE? BECAUSE YOU'RE YOU'RE GOING ON AND ON AND ON AND ON AND ON. WELL THAT'S TRUE. BUT IF ANYONE IS NOT GET AN ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION TO THE CITY, THE CITY MANAGER WHEN I SAY PART OF ORDER THAT MAY NOT HAVE THE FLOOR, THAT'S NOT A POINT OF ORDER OF THE TABLE. THAT'S NOT A POINT OF ORDER ORDER. THAT'S NOT A POINT TO GET IN SO THAT WE CAN SO WE CAN PARTICIPATE IN THE MEETING.
I MEAN, THIS IS NOT THE CHARLIE COUPLES SHOW. IT SEEMS LIKE THAT. YOU NEED A PRIVATE MEETING WITH THE CITY MANAGER. I UNDERSTAND. AND I'M NOT DISAGREEING WITH ANYTHING YOU'RE SAYING, BUT YOU HAVE OTHER MEMBERS OF COUNCIL THAT THEY WANT TO BRING THINGS JERMAINE, TRY HARD NOT TO THROW SPITBALLS AT PEOPLE IN PUBLIC. REVEREND HILL. THAT'S NOT SPITBALLS. I'M JUST BEING LET ME GO BACK TO MY QUESTION. MR CITY MANAGER OPPOSED WHAT I SUGGEST YOU CAN YOU ALLOW THE OTHER MEMBERS OF COUNCIL TO PARTICIPATE IN THE COUNCIL MEETING, PLEASE? UH MR CITY MANAGER. DO YOU OPPOSE THE APPROACH THAT I HAVE SUGGESTED? MISSISSIPPI MAN IS WOULD YOU
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RATHER SAVE $80,000 THAN $63,000? IS IT? I MEAN, YEAH. SO YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY IF YOU MOVE FORWARD AND FIX THAT YOU CERTAINLY COULD MOVE COURT SERVICES OVER THERE. SO. WHAT I WOULD SAY IS, I DON'T AGREE. I DON'T DISAGREE WITH SAVING MONEY. AH! THERE ARE SEVERAL THINGS SEVERAL FACTORS INVOLVED. AND I DON'T I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO TAKE US A LONG TIME. TO DETERMINE IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A DEVELOPMENTAL ON THIS SITE. MAY WE GO INTO CLOSED SESSION, PLEASE? UM. COUNCILMAN COUNCILMAN COVER IF YOU WANT TO GO INTO CLOSED SESSION FOR WHAT REASON? UH TO TALK ABOUT CONFLICTS OF INTEREST. ALRIGHT. MR WILLIAMS. IS THIS A CONFLICT IN TERMS OF THE PERSONNEL RELATED ISSUE? IS THAT WHAT YOU MEAN? OF CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.SO YOU'RE SEEKING CONSULTATION WITH LEGAL COUNSEL REGARDING THAT ISSUE? EXACTLY AND HOW THAT IS DRIVING THAT THE DISCUSSION. ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CONVENE IN CLOSED SESSION. PURSUANT TO 2.2 37 11, A SEVEN AND EIGHT OF THE CODE OF VIRGINIA FOR THEIR PURPOSES, RECEIVING LEGAL ADVICE AND STATUS UPDATE FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY AND LEGAL CONSULTATION REGARDING THE SUBJECT OF SPECIFIC LEGAL MATTERS, REQUIRING THE PROVISION OF LEGAL ADVICE BY THE CITY ATTORNEY SPECIFICALLY, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO DISCUSSION OF MATTERS PERTAINING TO THE VIRGINIA CONFLICT OF INTEREST ACT. THIS MACABRE MOVE. ALRIGHT. SEEING THOSE SECOND THE MOTION DIES.
ALL RIGHT, THEN LET'S TALK ABOUT IT IN PUBLIC. IS THERE ANY MEMBER OF COUNCIL THAT AH, IS RECEIVING A COMMISSION. OF FOR RENTAL IN 30 FRANKLIN STREET. NO. NOT ME. SO NOT ME. NO, I'M NO, I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT OKAY, WELL, THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO SMOKE OUT BECAUSE IT SURELY SOUNDED LIKE THAT MIGHT BE THE BASIS FOR SOME OF THE OPPOSITION THAT I WAS HEARING. SO, UM LET'S GO BACK TO 400 EAST WASHINGTON. AH! THE COMMENT THAT SPAWNED MY MOTION WAS SOMETHING ABOUT MOVING JUVENILE COURT SUPPORT SERVICES UNIT INTO THIS TINY LITTLE BUILDING. I SUPPOSE EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT. I HAVE. I'VE GOT A LEASE WITH THE JUVENILE COURT SUPPORT SERVICES UNIT IN WHAT USED TO BE THE COMMUNITY BANK BUILDING. BUT IT WOULD NEVER FIT INTO 400 EAST WASHINGTON, BUT THERE WAS A COMMENT DOWN AT THE OTHER END OF THE TABLE THAT IT MADE ME THINK THAT, UH, UM THERE WAS A. UM SOME COMMISSION WAS BEING EARNED. BY KEEPING. AH THE DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AT 30, RIGHT? 30 FRANKLIN STREET, SO LET'S GO BACK TO THE ISSUE. UM MR ALLMAN , DO YOU OPPOSE? UM BRINGING FORWARD. SAY AT THE APRIL MEETING A DECISION BY COUNCIL AS TO WHETHER TO PUT THE DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INTO 400 EAST WASHINGTON. I'M NOT OPPOSED. MY PLAN HAD BEEN TO MAKE WAS WE ADOPT THE BUDGET EVERY YEAR. WE WILL HAVE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT AS PART OF THE BUDGET. IF THE MAJORITY OF COUNCIL THEN APPROVES THE BUDGET WITH THAT IN IT, THAT'S HOW WE'RE MOVING FORWARD. IF COUNCIL DECIDES NOT TO. WE WILL THEN PIVOT TO RELOCATE THE OFFICE IN TIME OF TIME TO GET OUT WAS AS A LEASE EXPIRES. AND MY PLAN HAS ALWAYS BEEN TO MAKE IT A PART OF THE BUDGET DISCUSSION BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE MONEY IS APPROPRIATED. IS THERE ENOUGH TIME BETWEEN THE TIME WHEN THE BUDGET WILL LIKELY BE APPROVED AND THAT AND THE TIME WHEN THE LEASE EXPIRES? AH AT 30 EAST 30 FRANKLIN STREET TO DO THE REHAB AT 400 EAST WASHINGTON. I THINK BETWEEN, UM MAY BEGINNING OF JUNE TO AUGUST. WE CAN GET THE REHAB DONE. I MEAN, MR CITY MANAGER. I THINK THAT'S ALL CIRCUMSTANTIAL. YOU DON'T HAVE A CONTRACTOR. YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THE EXACT NEEDS.
I THINK IT'S ALL HYPOTHETICAL. I DON'T SEE HOW YOU CAN MAKE MAKE THAT ASSUMPTION. RIGHT NOW, SO IT'S. IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN PITCH BACK TO CITY COUNCIL AT ONCE YOU GET A CONTRACTOR TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND THEN GET BACK WITH US ON WHAT IT WOULD TAKE. MR MAYOR, DIDN'T YOU
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PROVIDE THE CITY MANAGEMENT INFORMATION WITH RESPECT TO WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FUTURE HOLDS WITH RESPECT TO THAT PARTICULAR PARCEL LOCATED THERE AT EXIT 52 THAT THERE IS A STUDY MOVING FORWARD WITH RESPECT TO THAT, SO I BELIEVE THAT THE INTENT IS TO CONTINUE WITH OUR EFFORTS TO MOVE THE CITY FORWARD. UM RATHER THAN EXPENDING MONEY THAT IS NOT NECESSARY TO BE SPENT. YEAH, WE WANT TO GO BACK TO TALKING ABOUT CONFLICTS OF INTEREST. LET'S BE CLEAR ON WHAT THOSE CONFLICTS ARE. BEFORE YOU MAKE AN ALLEGATION. LIKE COUNCIL VICE MARY HILL. NO. ONLY THING I WANT TO SAY IS, UH, WE GOT TO BE PRUDENT WHEN WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT GETTING RID OF BUILDINGS AND KNOCKING THEM DOWN THINGS OF THAT NATURE BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO BE LANDLOCKED AND ANY OF OUR BUILDINGS LIKE ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE FROM CITY HALL THINGS OF THAT NATURE. THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO ADD TO IT. SO IN THIS BUILDING. RIGHT HERE, WHICH IS A BEAUTIFUL BUILDING. BUT THIS IS PART OF THE PLAN OF RE BATTLE IZING EXIT 52. SO IF WE START PUTTING A WHOLE LOT OF MONEY IN IT, AND THEN WE END UP SELLING IT, AND, YOU KNOW, REALLY, THEY PROBABLY JUST GONNA WANT THE LAND AND NOT NECESSARILY THE BUILDING. SO I'M PRAYERFUL THAT A VALUABLE HOTEL WOULD WANT TO COME BACK IN THAT SITE RIGHT THERE, BUT I'M PRETTY SURE THAT WOULDN'T BE A PART OF ANYBODY'S PLAYING TO HAVE THIS PARTICULAR BUILDING THEIR UH AND AS YOU SEE, WE HAVE ENOUGH BUILDINGS TO GO AROUND AND OUR CITY IF WE WANT TO PUT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SOMEWHERE AS, UH, AND WHAT HAVE YOU WE GOT, YOU KNOW, SPACE CROSS THE STREET FROM CITY HALL AND IN THE ANNEX AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE, SO THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO TRY TO ADD TO THE CONVERSATION. UH THAT WAS GOING ON AND ON AND ON AND ON AND ON AND ON. AND WHAT HAVE YOU SO THAT'S ALL? THANK YOU, MR MAYOR. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR WILLIAMS. MR WILLIAMSON BEFORE YOU LEAVE THE PODIUM, MR MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO ASK MR WILLIAMSON MORE QUESTIONS IF EVERYONE ELSE HAS ASKED THAT QUESTION. PRICE OF MOVE ONTO THE NEXT, WHICH WHAT IS THE NEXT? UM THE PROPERTY. YOU WANTED TO LOOK AT COUNSELOR COVER. WELL, UM 1 42 NORTH UNION, UM. COUNCILMAN HILL REFERENCE TO THE MOMENT AGO. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SPENDING SOME MONEY ON IT, BUT WE THERE'S NO INDICATION AS TO WHO'S GOING TO BE USING IT. UM MR ALTMAN, CAN YOU GIVE US SOME INSIGHT INTO THAT? WHO, IF WE SPEND $64,000 ON WHERE ON THE FORMER I T BUILDING. WHAT CITY OFFICE IS GOING TO MOVE IN THERE. I DON'T. I DON'T HAVE A PLAN TO MOVE ANY CITY OFFICE AND AT THIS POINT IN TIME, I THINK WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THOSE COSTS THOSE COSTS TO RENOVATE THE BUILDING, GET US PUSHED PAST THE ASSESSED VALUE. AND AS I INDICATED BEFORE, THIS MIGHT BE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO COUPLE THIS BUILDING WITH THE OLD FORMER CODE BUILDING. FOR SALE FOR REUSE BY PRIVATE PARTY.COULD YOU GIVE US A RECOMMENDATION? IS THAT YOUR RECOMMENDATION TODAY? ALL NATIONS, OKAY, THAT THAT WE PUT WHAT IS YOUR RECOMMENDATION? I'M SORRY, 1 42 NORTH UNION AND THE ONE NEXT DOOR TO IT. PUT THEM ON THE MARKET. BOTH OF THEM, OKAY? I CAN'T SEE INVESTING MONEY INTO BOTH OF THOSE BUILDINGS AT THE LEVEL THAT WE WOULD NEED TO PUT PEOPLE BACK IN THEM. ALRIGHT WELL, THAT THAT MAKES SENSE TO ME. AND I'M GLAD THAT YOU'RE GIVING US SOME DIRECTION ON THAT. SO UM WOULD YOU REPORT BACK TO US? WHAT? AT OUR MAY MEETING AS TO HOW MUCH WE'RE GOING TO BE ASKING FOR THIS AND WHEN IT'S GOING TO BE GOING ON THE MARKET WE COULD. WELL WE CAN PUT IT ON THE MARKET. I THINK CURRENTLY ARE THE CURRENT POLICY THAT COUNCILS HAD THAT WE'VE HAD SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT REVISITING IS, UH, THE ASKING PRICE WOULD BE THE ASSESSED VALUE AND IN CURRENT POLICY WOULD BE COUNCIL. WE WOULD ACCEPT BIDS UP TO NO LESS THAN 50% OF THAT VALUE.
WELL I THINK THAT MIGHT WELL WORK FOR VACANT LAND. UH, IN UNDESIRABLE PART OF TOWN, BUT, UM WHEN YOU DEALING WITH PROPERTY RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM CITY HALL, I WONDER IF THAT IS THE WISE WISE APPROACH. DO WE WANT TO GET AN ASSESSMENT? WELL, WE CAN APPRAISAL APPRAISAL. WE COULD GET AN APPRAISAL AND BEFORE WE LISTED THEM, AND I THINK AH, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS ABOUT UH, SUSPENDING THE USE OF GOV DEALS JUST BECAUSE OF WHAT WE'VE HAD RECENTLY AND MAYBE JUST PUTTING THEM OUT FOR SALE AND INTERESTED PARTIES WOULD SUBMIT LETTER OF HIS LETTERS OF INTEREST THAT WE COULD PRESENT TO COUNSEL. WELL, THAT'S AN OPTION. BUT WHAT DO YOU WHAT DO YOU RECOMMENDING TO US? AND WHEN? WHEN IS IT GOING TO TAKE PLACE? HAVE A QUESTION.
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SO AGAIN, MY RECOMMENDATION IS TO PUT THEM ON THE MARKET. AND SEE WHAT WE CAN GET FOR THEM.WHEN WILL THAT TAKE PLACE? WE WILL GET TOGETHER AND NOW IT DID THIS. THIS COUNCIL WANT US TO MOVE FORWARD WITH AN APPRAISAL OR JUST PUT IT ON THE MARKET AND SEE WHAT KIND OF OFFER WE CAN GET. THAT WOULD BE THE THAT WOULD BE THE QUESTION FOR COUNCIL. THAT WOULD BE A GOOD TIME. THIS IS A WORK SESSION AND THIS YOU KNOW THE ISSUE IS ON THE TABLE IN FRONT OF US. UH MR BAD DO YOU WANT TO LEAD US IN THAT DISCUSSION? YOU WANT TO KICK THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD. UM RIGHT NOW. I THINK COUNCILOR HILL HAS WON THE CHAMPIONSHIP CHAMPION ON IT. YES. UH WHAT I WAS SAYING I DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT US. UM SELLING SO MUCH I WAS THINKING I WAS SELLING. WE DON'T WANT TO GET LANDLOCKED WHEN WE DO SALE, SO WE'VE GOT TO BE PRUDENT IF WE'RE GOING TO SELL THE FACILITY. AH AND THEN BECAUSE BECAUSE YOU CAN'T BATTLE REALLY CAN'T BATTLE AND BACK SO . IF THERE IS SOME TYPE OF USE, OR EVEN IF WE KNOCK IT DOWN, AND WE CAN YOU USE IT FOR PARKING OR WHATEVER. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEEDED TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT, BUT TO PUT THE CITY MANAGER. I NOTICED THIS WORK SESSION ON THE SPOT TO TRY TO GET TIMES AND DATES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. I THINK I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WHERE WE COME TOGETHER AND SAY, HEY, THIS IS WHAT WE WANT TO DO. THIS IS THE PROPERTY WE WANT TO SAY. WE KNOW THE VALUE OF IT AND ALL THAT.
BUT DO WE REALLY WANT TO STAY AT THIS CORNER LOT OR NOT ATTACHED TO THAT BUILDING IN THE BACK? UM AT THIS POINT AND FORCED TO MAKE A DECISION JUST OUT THE BLUE LIKE THIS. I THINK IT IT WOULDN'T BE RATIONAL. AT THIS POINT, SO IF THE IF THE CITY MANAGER OCCURRED IF HE WANTS TO, IF HE COULD COME BACK AND BRING US BACK SOME OPTIONS THEY IF WE KNOCK IT DOWN, THE CITY CAN USE IT FOR THIS AMOUNT. I MEAN, USE IT FOR THIS PROJECT, OR IF WE SELL IT, THEN MAYBE WE CAN GET THIS BOTH PARCELS BEFORE. YOU KNOW, JUST KIND OF KEEP ON TRYING TO GET DATES. AND I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO GET SOME DELIVERABLES AND I UNDERSTAND THAT. YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THAT BECAUSE YOU KNOW, WE KNOW HOW THINGS TEND TO MOVE SLOW, BUT WE HAVE A GREAT STAFF AND THEY HAVE A LOT ON THEM. BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE SHOULD. AH, THIS NEEDS TO BE A DECISION BY COUNCIL AND NOT JUST ONE INDIVIDUAL, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S NOT TO SAY ANYTHING AGAINST YOU, COUNCILMAN COUPLE OF BUT I THINK WE NEED TO MAKE THIS DECISION HOLISTICALLY.
WELL COUNCILMAN HILL. I'M ASKING , UH, THAT DECISION BE MADE NOT BY ME, BUT BY THIS COUNCIL, AND THAT THING'S NOT BE ALLOWED TO DRAG AS THEY ALMOST ALWAYS DO. SO COUNCILMAN HILL. WHEN DO YOU SUGGEST THAT WE REVISIT THIS TOPIC. AND WHAT INFORMATION WOULD YOU LIKE THE CITY MANAGER TO BRING BEFORE US AT THAT TIME? SO THAT WE CAN MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION. VICE MAYOR HILL VICE MAYOR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. STAFF WILL BE HAPPY TO WORK TO BRING BACK A COMPREHENSIVE LOOK AT WHAT WE COULD DO WITH THE PROPERTY FROM A SALE OR REUSE DEMO REUSE KIND OF PERSPECTIVE, AND WE CAN HAVE THAT FOR YOU BY YOUR MAY WORK SESSION. THANK YOU. GREAT THANKS. NOW, MR WILLIAMS. THERE'S ONE OTHER PROPERTY THAT IS, UH, IS IN A PRIME LOCATION BLOWS TO THE CITY IS EMPTY AND IS NOT ON THIS LIST AND THAT I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO CALL THE BUILDING. BUT AS YOU FACE THE PETERSBURG CIRCUIT COURTHOUSE. THE OLD HISTORIC COURTHOUSE, UH, ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THAT OF THE COURTHOUSE RIGHT ACROSS FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. THERE'S AN EMPTY BUILDING. AH! OKAY WAS ANY THOUGHT GIVEN TO WHAT USE COULD BE MADE TO THAT AND WHAT THE COST WOULD BE? TO BRING THAT BUILDING. UH UP TO THE STANDARDS FOR CURRENT ARGUMENT, SEE BY CITY OFFICE. YEAH, I DIDN'T INCLUDE THAT IN MY PRESENTATION, BUT I CAN. I CAN ADD THAT AND GET THAT BACK. ALRIGHT. WELL IF YOU WOULD, AND, UM PERHAPS AT ALL MAY WORK SESSION WHEN THIS DISCUSSION ABOUT 1, 41 42 NORTH UNION, AND I THINK IT'S 108 WEST TAB. WILL BE BROUGHT TO US. IF MR ALTMAN IF YOU COULD ADDRESS THAT ALSO AH, THE SPECIFIC USERS ARE AM THINKING ABOUT IS THE MAGISTRATE'S OFFICE. BUT THAT MAY BE A BAD IDEA. I DON'T KNOW , BUT IT'S RIGHT THERE IN THE COURT COMPLEX. I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THERE'S ENOUGH SQUARE FOOTAGE FOR THAT OR NOT. AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE PAYING NOW IN THE WAY OF RENT. YOU DIDN'T THINK WE JUST SIGNED A TWO YEAR JUST ENDED A TWO YEAR LEASE. I THINK WITH WITH THE MANAGER'S OFFICE. THAT WAS BACK IN THE
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FALL THAT WE RENEWED THE LEASE AND THE MAGISTRATE'S OFFICE. 2500 MONTH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IN THE OVERALL DESIGN OF THE COURTHOUSE IS MAGISTRATE'S OFFICE BEING LOCATED WITHIN THE NEW COURTHOUSE. I THINK THAT'S GREAT, BUT THAT'S SIX YEARS FROM NOW, MR ALMOND. BUT NO SO WHERE IS WE ALL KNOW, WE'RE UNDER A COURT ORDER IN MY OBJECTIVE IS TO HAVE THE BUILDING DESIGNED UP IN OCCUPIED BEFORE WE'RE REQUIRED TO YOU. SO I'M NOT THINKING SIX YEARS FROM NOW, 10 YEARS FROM NOW, I'M THINKING WE CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD AND WE'RE UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND WITHIN WERE IN THE BUILDING. PRIOR TO 26 IS MY OBJECTIVE.OKAY? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MR WILLIAMS. NEXT MOVE ON ITEM EIGHT MONTHLY REPORTS. UM, ITEM
[9. Finance and Budget Report]
NINE. FINANCE AND BUDGET REPORT OUT OF A IS AN UPDATE OF THE FY 24 BUDGET DEVELOPMENT PROCESS AND CALENDAR. MRS. JOIN. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR PAM MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. I JUST WANTED TO COME BEFORE YOU TONIGHT TO UPDATE YOU ON WHERE WE ARE WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE FISCAL YEAR 24 BUDGET SO AS YOU CAN SEE OUR REVENUES FOR FISCAL 24. WE'RE PUTTING THEM AT $76.9 MILLION NOW THE AMOUNT OF REQUESTS THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED FROM ALL ACROSS THE DEPARTMENT TOTAL TO 95 MILLION. SO WE DO HAVE A LOT OF WORK THROUGH. UM BEFORE WE COME BACK BEFORE YOU NEXT WEEK. SO FAR, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO REDUCE ABOUT LIKE $12 MILLION. SO THE MANAGEMENT APPROACH FOR FISCAL YEAR, 24 IS BUILDING UP DEPARTMENTS TO MEET CURRENT AND FUTURE NEEDS, WHICH WE'RE TRYING TO DO, BUT SLOWLY, WE CANNOT LET OUR EXPENSES SURPASSED OUR REVENUES. WE HAVE TO COME FORWARD WITH A STRUCTURALLY BALANCED BY HIS SHIP. UM WITH GOALS, IMPROVING PUBLIC SAFETY, CREATING JOBS AND DEVELOPING BUSINESS WEALTH IN THE COMMUNITY ENHANCING TOURISM, IMPROVED CODE AND BUILDING INSPECTIONS, PERMITTING STREET CLEANINGS AND MAINTENANCE ENGINEERING EXPERTISE TO MANAGE OUR SIGNIFICANT INTEREST STRUCTURE, INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS AND GROUND FACILITIES, MAINTENANCE PARKS AND REC, OF COURSE AND FIELD UPGRADES. THESE ARE THE AREAS THAT WILL PRODUCE THE MOST IMMEDIATE, LONG TERM APPROVED THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR THE COMMUNITY. FUNDED INITIATIVES. OF COURSE, WE HAVE TO FUND THE LOCAL MATCH. UM INCREASE TO THE SCHOOLS OF 2.3 INCREASED FUNDING TO PUBLIC SAFETY PARKS AND REC, MARKETING, TOURISM CODE AND COMPLIANCE. AND ALONG WITH THIS , IT WILL BE A 5% INCREASE TO CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS, AND WE JUST RECEIVED NOTIFICATION FROM SOCIAL SERVICES FOR THE STATE THAT IT MIGHT BE INSTEAD OF JUST A 5% 10% SO THE STATE USUALLY DOESN'T ADOPT THEIR BUDGET UNTIL MAY TOWARDS THE END OF MAY, AND MAYBE EVEN AS FAR AS JUNE THIS YEAR, RIGHT AT THE END, SO WE'RE WAITING FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE WE HAVE WHAT WE NEED. UM UNFORTUNATELY, HEALTHCARE IS INCREASING ADDITIONAL 8.8% THIS YEAR, UM, COMPARED TO LAST YEAR'S INCREASE, AND THAT'S GOING TO BE ABSORBED. THE ADDITIONAL COST IS NOT GOING TO BE PASSED ON TO THE EMPLOYEES THAT WILL BE ABSORBED BY THE CITY. BLESS YOU. STRATEGIC PLAN GOALS PROMOTE PLEASURE. PROMOTE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TO ATTRACT NEW BUSINESS AND STRENGTHEN THE CITY'S TAX BASE SUPPORT COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITIES TO ENHANCE NEIGHBORHOODS AND IMPROVED HOUSING PROVIDE GOOD GOVERNANCE FOR EFFECTIVE, EFFICIENT AND EQUITABLE SERVICES , DELIVERY, PRODUCTIVE CITIZEN ENGAGEMENT AND COMMUNITY IMPROVEMENT AND CELEBRATE PETERSBURG HISTORY AND CULTURE.OF COURSE, THE ABC OF BUDGET IS ACCOUNTING FOR ALL STRUCTURAL CHANGES, BALANCING AND CONTINUALLY OF OPERATIONS AND CONTINUE TO BUILD THE FUND BALANCE BY 500,000. SO THIS IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT YEAR OVER YEAR. THIS IS WHAT HAS BEEN PRESENTED TO US AS REQUEST. SO THE LARGEST AMOUNTS COME BETWEEN PUBLIC SAFETY FIRE INCLUDES 3.5 MILLION ADDITIONAL FUNDING REQUESTS WE RECEIVED POLICE 3.81 MILLION FOR CONSTITUTIONAL AND THAT INCLUDES THE 5% INCREASE.
ONE MILLION REQUESTS RECEIVED. PUBLIC WORKS INCLUDE SALARIES. UH 2.3, OF COURSE, THE SCHOOLS AND 1.9 FOR NONPROFITS. NOW ONE THING I DO WANT TO SAY IS WE ARE WORKING WITH DIVING, POOR POOR TO TRY TO KIND OF DIVERSIFIED REVENUES. WHAT WE HAVE IS WHAT WE HAVE THE TAX BASE THAT WE HAVE, AND WHAT WE GET IS COMES FROM BUILDING REAL ESTATE PERSON PROPERTY TANGIBLE MEAL SACKS, ETCETERA. WE'RE TRYING TO WORK WITH DAVENPORT AS WELL AS A TREASURER, BECAUSE THE TREASURER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE INVESTMENTS. UM TO INVEST SOME OF THE FUN BALANCE THAT WE HAVE ACCUMULATED ONCE WE CHANGE OUR FUND BALANCE, UM, POLICIES. THAT ADDITIONAL MONEY CAN BE INVESTED AND WE WILL IN CRUDE AND WILL EARN REVENUE OFF OF THAT INVESTMENT, WHICH WILL BRING
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MORE REVENUE TO THE CITY SO WE CAN DO ADDITIONAL PROJECTS. I'LL SEE. OKAY? THANK YOU. THESE ARE THE REVENUES YOU'RE OVER YEAR AGAIN. 76.9 76 JUST A SLIGHT INCREASE FROM LAST YEAR AGAIN WITH LAST YEAR, THOUGH. REMEMBER THAT WE DID A TAX RATE REDUCTION AS WELL AS WE GAVE AN INCREASE TO STAFF OF 5.5% OF THE DEPARTMENT'S GOT 84 15 AND THEN ALSO, UM INCREASE. THE HEALTH CARE COSTS AGAIN INCREASED LAST YEAR, AS WELL AS WELL AS GROUP LIFE. RIGHT NOW. THIS IS WHERE WE CURRENTLY ARE WITH PERSONNEL . WE HAVE 544 FULL TIME EMPLOYEES AND 117. ONCE WE COMPLETE THE BUDGET WILL I WILL BE BACK ON APRIL 14TH WITH A BALANCED BUDGET TO PRESENT BEFORE COUNCIL. UM FOR 24. WE WILL ALSO SHOW VACANCIES AS WELL AS, UM, FOR YOUR DEPARTMENT. SO THE BUDGET CALENDAR COMING UP APRIL 14TH. WE'RE FINALIZING THE BUDGET APRIL 18TH AND NOTICE TO THE NEWSPAPER FOR BUDGET AND COMMUNITY MEETINGS. THE WEEK OF APRIL 17TH THROUGH THE 21ST WILL BE COUNCIL MEETINGS ON THE BUDGET, AND THEN THE 26TH AND 27TH WILL BE THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS. MAY 2ND. WE'RE DOING A NOTICE TO THE NEWSPAPER FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING IN THE 16TH WILL BE THE ADOPTION OF THE PROPOSED BUDGET AND RESOLUTION. NOW IF WE ADOPTED A MAY 16TH AND THE STATE ENDS UP CHANGING SOMETHING, WE CAN ALWAYS COME BACK AND DO AN AMENDMENT TO THE BUDGET ONCE WE HAVE MORE FINALIZED NUMBER, BUT WE'RE JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE GET EVERYTHING ADOPTED PRIOR TO JUNE 30TH. OKAY THANK YOU SO MUCH. MISS JORDAN'S, UM, ALSO COULD COULD YOU ELABORATE ON THAT 5 44 NUMBER OF POSITIONS? WE ARE AWFULLY LOW. WE HAVE A LOT OF VACANCIES THROUGHOUT THE CITY. WE REALLY DO. UM I HAVE FOUR BY MYSELF IN OUR DEPARTMENT, SO WE HAVE A IT'S NOT THAT PETERSBURG CANNOT OFFER. HEALTHCARE HINDERS US A LOT, BUT IT'S JUST BRINGING PEOPLE TO THE CITY. AND I MEAN IT'S A NO DISRESPECT. SOME PEOPLE JUST WANT TO STAY AWAY FROM THE NEGATIVITY, AND THAT'S THE HARDEST PART OF US RESTAURANT. GOOD PEOPLE, SO WE REALLY DO STRUGGLE WITH THE RECRUITING AND MAINTAINING OF GOOD PEOPLE IN THE CITY BECAUSE OF THEIR SCARED TO COME HERE AND TAKE A CHANCE WITH THE CITY, BUT THE CITY IS GOING IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION, A BETTER DIRECTION, AND I JUST WISH A LOT MORE PEOPLE AND EMPLOYEES WOULD SEE THAT I REALLY DO. AND ALSO, UM OTHER THING, UM I SAW THE, UM. INCREASES I KNOW TO POLICE WAS 5% AND I NOTICED THAT. THAT FIRE WAS 3% AND WE NORMALLY ALWAYS KEEP THEM THE SAME AS POSSIBLE TO WORK THAT 55% IN THEIR ADDITIONAL INCREASES THAT THEY'RE REQUESTING FOR FISCAL YEAR, 24. THEY'VE REQUESTED ADDITIONAL 5% POLICE AND FIRE REQUESTED AN ADDITIONAL 3% AS WELL AS PUBLIC WORKS. BUT REMEMBER, LAST YEAR WE GAVE POLICE ATTEND. FAR 8% PUBLIC WORKS ALREADY HAD EIGHT. NOW IF YOU WANTED TO DO AN ADDITIONAL 2% TO BRING EVERYBODY FAIR ACROSS THE BOARD, AND WE COULD DO THAT, BUT THIS IS JUST ADDITIONAL FUNDING REQUEST THAT WE RECEIVED. ON TOP OF WHAT THEY ALREADY RECEIVED. YEAH. CAN WE DO IT FAIR ACROSS THE BOARD? ABSOLUTELY. ABSOLUTELY ALL RIGHT, VICE MAYOR HERE. YES THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION . MS JORDAN'S I'M GLAD THAT YOU TOUCHED ON THE EMPLOYMENT THIS I MEAN, YOUR PRESENTATION IS GREAT, BUT. I THINK, YOU KNOW, STARTING WITH COUNSEL OUR PRESENTATION. AND THE WAY WE ARE REFLECTS ON IF PEOPLE WANT TO COME AND INVEST IN OUR CITY OR NOT. IT REFLECTS ON IF THEY WANT TO COME AND JOIN OUR TEAM OR NOT. SO YOU KNOW, ALL OF US, STARTING WITH COUNCIL. WE SHOULD DO A DEEP DIVE OR HOW WE SPEAK AND HOW WE ACT AND HOW WE DELIVER. I KNOW WE MAY HAVE THE GREATEST INTENTIONS. BUT IF YOU DID DELIVERING THIS CERTAIN WAY, AND I'VE HEARD IT MYSELF, AND I'M GLAD YOU KNOW YOU CAN'T AVOID THAT UP. YEAH. PEOPLE ARE SCARED TO COME HERE SOLELY DUE TO THE FACT THAT YOU KNOW THEY ARE NOT SURE NOT NECESSARILY AT THE DIRECTION BY SOMEONE WITH THE HARSHNESS AND THAT THERE THERE'S SOME OF OUR EMPLOYEES ARE TENDER FACE, EVEN FROM INDIVIDUALS ON COUNCIL SO THAT THAT'S JERMAINE, NOT JUST NOT CALLING OUT ANY PARTICULAR PERSON OR PERSONS, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO WATCH , AND WE NEED TO CALL IT OUT WHEN WE SEE IT AS WELL. UH THANK YOU, MR MAYOR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. COUNCILMAN JONES. THANK YOU. UM. COUPLE OF THINGS. I THINK PEOPLE. AND OUT OF FRAYED TO COME TO THE CITY OF THE WORK.[01:15:17]
THEY DON'T WANT TO COME TO A CITY LIKE YOU SAID, BECAUSE OF NEGATIVITY. BUT ALSO BECAUSE OF HOW THEY'VE BEEN TREATED. HOW DO YOU SEE? EMPLOYEES ARE BEING TREATED BY DEPARTMENT HEADS AND EMPLOYEES ALIKE. UM LIKE VICE MAYOR SAID. WE ALL GOT TO DO A DEEP DIVE, HOW WE TREAT EACH OTHER. BUT I KNOW FOR A FACT. AND ALMOST EVERY DEPARTMENT THAT SOME EMPLOYEES BEEN MISTREATED.EVEN BY THE WAY THEY'VE BEEN SPOKEN TO BY THE BOSSES. UM. BUT THAT'S NOT THE MEAT OF WHAT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT WHAT I WANT TO, ACTUALLY, WHAT I WANT TO SAY IS ACCORDING TO SECTION 15.2 DOES 25 OH, THREE. THE STATE COLD. TIME FOR PREPARATION AND APPROVAL OF BUDGET CONTENTS. AND HE SAYS ALL OFFICERS AND HEADS OF DEPARTMENTS. OFFICES DIVISIONS, BOARDS, COMMISSIONS AND AGENCIES OF EVERY LOCALITY SHELL. ON OR BEFORE THE FIRST DAY OF APRIL OF EACH YEAR.
PREPARE AND SUBMIT TO THE GOVERNING BODY AND ESTIMATE OF THE AMOUNT OF MONEY NEEDED.
DOING? THEY'RE SUING FISCAL YEAR. FOR HIS DEPARTMENT OFFICE DIVISION BOARD COMMISSIONER AGENCY. I'VE I HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING, AND I KNOW WE ARE THIS IS APRIL, THE FOURTH AND I THINK EVEN BEFORE I EVEN GOT HERE. AND PROBABLY BEFORE YOU GOT HERE. THE BUDGET IS ALWAYS LATE. AND WE CAN OPERATE WITH LEEK AND TARDINESS. Y'ALL ALRIGHT SOMEBODY UP IF THEY COME TO WORK LATE. WHILE WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING WITH THE BUDGET BEEN LEAVE WAS WAS WAS WHY HAVEN'T WE SEEN IS THIS A STATE COLD? IT'S NOT ME. STAY COOL. I SAY SOMETHING REAL QUICK. UM COUNCILMAN JONES. I'M NOT REALLY SURE IF IT'S SAYING THAT IT'S INNOCENT TOTALITY. WHAT I PRESENTED TODAY IT SHOWS YOU ABOUT DEPARTMENT. UH, REQUEST BECAUSE I THINK IF YOU READ IT, YOU SAID THAT EACH DEPARTMENT WILL COME FORWARD WITH REQUESTS NEEDED RIGHT? SO THAT'S WHAT'S BEEN PROVIDED OR BEFORE APRIL THE FIRST OF EACH YEAR. SO WHAT WE'RE SEEING NOW WE SHOULD HAVE PROBABLY SAW IT WAY BEFORE NOW. SO THAT WOULD BE MY MISTAKE. THAT WOULD BE MY FAULT, AND I HAVE NO NO PROBLEM ADDRESSING THAT ISSUE, BUT WHAT I'M PRESENTING NOW IS THE FIRST COUNCIL MEETING IN APRIL. OKAY? THANK YOU. WELCOME. SAY YES, THEY SUBMITTED TO US. WHAT THE CODE SAYS. SUBMIT. IT SAYS SUBMIT TO THE GOVERNING BODY. YOU ARE NOT THE GOVERNING PARTY. THIS BOARD IS THE GOVERNING PARTY. THAT'S WHAT HE SAYS. MR MR CITY ATTORNEY. YEAH I THINK YOU ARE CORRECT IN THE CODE SECTION. I THINK WHAT THE MANAGER WAS GETTING READY TO SAY IS THAT WHEN THE AGENDAS WERE PUBLISHED IN COUNCIL RECEIVED THEM, THAT WAS WHEN THEY SUBMITTED IT SO TECHNICALLY, THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN PRIOR TO APRIL. 1ST UM, IT'S SPLITTING HAIRS. I THINK YOU KNOW YOUR POSITION IS SHE'S MISSED IT BY THREE DAYS, AND YOU'RE A LITERAL READING OF THAT CODE SECTION WOULD INDICATE THAT BUT I THINK LIKEWISE THE MANAGER'S POSITION THAT IT WAS ACTUALLY SUBMITTED WHEN THE AGENDA WAS PUBLISHED, WHICH WAS PRIOR TO APRIL 1ST AND I'M GOING BACK IN HISTORY A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST REPORT FROM FROM TODAY. I'VE BEEN SITTING OUT THERE AND IT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR YEARS. COUNCIL SOME OF YOU HAVE BEEN HERE BEFORE I GOT UP HERE. WHAT'S THE PROBLEM? YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING IS LATE. EVERYTHING. EVERYTHING NOT JUST WITH HER DEPARTMENT, BUT EVERYTHING IS LEGAL. YOU KNOW, JUST SOMETHING WE GOT TO TIGHTEN UP ON AND THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING.
YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO BE AHEAD OF THE GAME. THANK YOU. COUNCILOR COVER. THANK YOU, MR MAYOR. MR. CITY MANAGER. I'VE HEARD TALK. UM, SEVERAL YEARS. OVER THE PERIOD OF SEVERAL YEARS ABOUT DOING A WAGE SURVEY. UH, UM, HAS A WAGE SURVEY BEEN DONE? IS IT UNDERWAY? IS IT IMPORTANT? FIRST OF ALL, YES, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT. IT'S IMPORTANT TO DO ONE WITH A LEVEL OF PERIODIC INTERVALS BETWEEN IT SO YOU CAN KEEP UP WITH MARKET. SO MY UNDERSTANDING THERE WAS ONE DISCUSSED FOR THAT WOULD BE DONE THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR, BUT THAT WAS TAKEN OUT DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS, SO WE DIDN'T HAVE IT IN THE BUDGET PROCESS. HOWEVER. PART OF WHAT WE LOOKED AT WITH. AH THE APPROPRIATION OF FUNDING WITH REGARD TO OUR POWER WAS TO UTILIZE SOME OF THOSE
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FINES TO BEGIN TO MOVE FORWARD WITH ONE SO WE ARE IN A POSITION AS WE GO INTO NEXT BUDGET YEAR TO UNDERSTAND WHERE WE ARE WITH MARKET AND WHAT ADJUSTMENTS WE MAY NEED TO MAKE RIGHT NOW WE'RE MAKING ADJUSTMENTS. CERTAIN DEPARTMENTS, BUT WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHERE WE ARE WITH MARKET WITH ALL OF OUR POSITIONS. AND MAKING ADJUSTMENTS ACROSS THE BOARD, NOT JUST SAY POLICE FIRE OR PUBLIC WORKS. BUT HOW DOES THAT AFFECT ALL DEPARTMENTS? AND WHERE ARE WE SAY YES, THEY'RE VERY IMPORTANT. IT'S IMPORTANT TO DO THEM WITH SOME LEVEL OF EVERY 23 YEARS. SO WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH PREPARING AND BELIEVE IN RFP NOW. TO GO OUT AND SOLICIT SERVICES TO DO A, UM CLASS AND COMPENSATION STUDY TO LOOK AT OUR POSITIONS AND OUR JOB DESCRIPTIONS. AND THEN BRING THOSE RESULTS AND WHAT THE RECOMMENDATIONS WOULD BE TO COUNSEL. BUT BY THE TIME WE GET THE RESULTS, WE WILL HAVE ALREADY ADOPTED THE BUDGET FOR 2023 2024. ISN'T THAT TRUE? CORRECT IF WE WON'T IT WON'T WILL NOT BE FOR THE FY 24 BUDGET YEAR IT WILL BE FOR THE FY 25 BUDGET YEAR THAT WILL HAVE THE IMPLEMENTATION PLAN FOR THAT.WHICH, UM HAD WE KEPT HAD THE. THE PROPOSED BUDGET KEPT IT IN, WE WOULD HAVE THAT INFORMATION FOR THIS COMING BUDGET BECAUSE IT WAS TAKEN OUT. AH NO. ONE NO ONE MOVE FORWARD WITH IT BECAUSE IT WAS TAKEN OUT OF THE BUDGET DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS, SO WE'RE STARTING THAT PROCESS NOW TO MOVE FORWARD. SO YOU'RE IN A POSITION FOR FY 25. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR JORDAN, FOR ALL YOU DO, AND LOOK FORWARD TO ANOTHER YEAR. ANOTHER GOOD BUT BUDGET PROCESS. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. NEXT ITEM. 10 CAPITAL PROJECTS UPDATE. NO ITEMS FOR THE NIGHT.
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NEXT. WE MOVE ON TO ITEM 11 UTILITIES. A PRESENTATION UPDATE ON POOR CREEK. SO WE HAVE OUR GOOD FRIENDS FROM JMT HERE TODAY TO PROVIDE EVERYONE AN UPDATE ON WHERE WE ARE WITH THE POOR CREEK WATER AND WASTEWATER PROJECT. GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU. YEAH. EXCITED TO BE HERE TONIGHT AND BRING YOU UP TO SPEED ON WHAT WE'VE BEEN UP TO. WITH THE POOR CREEK PROJECT, SOMETIMES CALLED THE SOUTH EAST PETERSBURG INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS PROJECT. THE DISTRICT FRESH EVERYBODY'S MEMORY WHAT THE PROJECT IS FOR THE FIRST SUPPORT THE PHARMACEUTICALS AND EXPANSION OF SERVICES IN SOUTHEASTERN PORTION OF THE CITY. EXPANSION GROWS. THE PROJECT INCLUDES A AND THE ORDER HERE. A ABANDONMENT OF THE EXISTING FORCED ME THAT RUNS THROUGH THE BATTLEFIELD, THE SEWAGE FORCED MAIN THAT'S UNDERSIZED AND FAILS. A NEW, LARGER FORCE MEAN THAT WILL RUN DOWN GREATER. NORTH CRATER TO TOWARDS THAT MADDOX RIVER TOWARDS THE TREATMENT PLANT. AND EXPANSION AND REHABILITATION OF THE EXISTING WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT FOR WASTEWATER PUMPING STATION POOR CREEK. AH THAT HAND THAT EXPANDS ALL THE SEWAGE CAPABILITY TO HANDLE ANYTHING THAT THE CITY CAN GENERATE AND GET IT OVER TO SOUTH CENTRAL WITHOUT FAILURE. AH TO SUPPORT THE PHARMACEUTICALS FURTHER. YOU STAY ON THAT ONE, PLEASE. THE THERE'S A NEW THAT WE HAVE TO EXPAND TO CREATE A THIRD PRESSURE ZONE IN THE CITY OF HIGH PRESSURE ZONE. THE HIGH PRESSURE ZONE IS INVOLVED WITH NEW WATER STORAGE TANK AND A NEW WATER BOOSTER PUMPING STATION THINKING BEING A WALNUT HILL.SHOWN ON THE MAP. AND THE NEW PIPELINE HEADING DOWN SOUTH CRATER TO WAGNER. AND THEN A NEW WATER STORAGE TANK OVERALL OF FRONTAGE ROAD NEAR NEAR NEAR I 95 IN NORMANDY EXIT AND THAT CREATES A HIGH PRESSURE ZONE FOR THE PINKISH AREA THERE THAT SERVES AH, THE PHARMACEUTICAL FACILITIES AS WELL AS THE SOUTHSIDE MEDICAL CENTER AND EVERYTHING ELSE DOWN IN THAT AREA FOR EXPANSION. SO THAT'S THE PROJECT. NEXT, PLEASE. I WANT TO BRING YOU UP TO SPEED THE HIGHLIGHTED AREAS HERE. YOU'VE SEEN THIS BEFORE. THE HIGHLIGHTED ONES ARE RECENT ACTIVITIES SINCE WE WERE HERE AND NOVEMBER AND, UH, SO HIGHLIGHT HERE AS WE ARE FPS FOR THE ENGINEERING SELECTION DESIGN WENT OUT WHERE ADMINISTRATORS CITY MADE US. WE MADE A SELECTION. OF TWO ENGINEERING FIRMS TO PROCEED. CONTRACTS ARE ARE ARE IN THE CITY RIGHT NOW BEING SIGNED. AND THE ENGINEERING FIRMS ARE ALREADY ON THEIR WAY WORKING AND WE CAN GET INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT. THE SO THAT THAT EFFORT IS COMPLETED THE OTHER PERMANENT ACTIVITIES THAT WENT ALONG WITH THAT A LOT OF PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING STUFF THAT WE DID. TO HELP THE PROCESS . MOVE FORWARD AS WE AS WE GET ALONG WITH THE ENGINEERING DESIGN FIRMS INCLUDED A MASTER PLAN ADDENDUM UPDATES THINGS THAT THE VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND DEPARTMENT OF OUR
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ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY REQUIRED TO, UH TO BE DONE AHEAD OF TIME BEFORE THAT, THAT THAT STREAMLINES THE PROCESS FOR THE PROJECT AS IT MOVES FORWARD. WE ALSO ASSISTED, UH UM MISS WILLIAMS AND HER EFFORTS TO A PROCURE ADDITIONAL FUNDS. WITH SEVERAL OTHER GRAND OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE LEARNED OF TWO. UH SENATOR SENATOR KAINE AND WARREN'S OFFICE AND OUR CONGRESS MOMENTS OFFICE ALSO, SO WE PUT IN GREEN APPLICATIONS FOR THEM THAT'S CALLED CONGRESSIONAL DIRECTED FUNDS EARMARKS. AND, UH, SO THE THOSE HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED AND BE RESPONDED TO, UH AT AT AT THEIR LEISURE, WHICH SHOULDN'T BE TOO LONG. SO WE'VE MADE GOOD PROGRESS AND APPLYING FOR THESE THINGS AND MOVING FORWARD WITH THE PROJECT. NEXT, PLEASE. SO NEXT. THE. HIGHLIGHTS OF THE I KNOW WHAT IT SAYS SO THEY HAD YOU'LL SEE IT IN A MOMENT. BUT THE HIGHLIGHTS OF THE, UH NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE ENGINEERING FIRMS AT ONE POINT THESE THINGS OUT TO YOU BECAUSE I THINK THEY'RE VERY IMPORTANT. UH SO THAT LIKE I SAID THIS ELECTION HAS BEEN MADE HAD BEEN MADE. DESIGN IS ON THE WAY. SO WE'RE DESIGNERS MOVING FORWARD. AND, UH, IT'S GOING TO BE AT A RAPID PACE. THE DESIGN TEAMS DURING OUR NEGOTIATIONS BOTH COMMITTED AH, AND WE HAVE 21 FOR THE WATER PER SIDE OF THINGS AND ONE FOR THE DRINKING WATER, THE WASTEWATER SIDE AND THE DRINKING WATER SIDE. AH HAVE BOTH COMMITTED TO A VERY COMPRESSED DESIGN SCHEDULES WITH THEIR DESIGN TEAMS. AND THEY, UH, REQUIREMENT TO GO OUT FOR BID AND NOVEMBER OF THIS YEAR. OKAY SO THAT'S A VERY AGGRESSIVE SCHEDULE THAT WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT IN THE PAST. TRYING TO COMPRESS THIS THING WE'RE INCLUDING IN THAT PRE PURCHASE OF LONG SUPPLY. UH UM, MATERIAL SUPPLY ISSUES SUCH AS PIPE AND TANK WILL BE PURCHASING THOSE AHEAD OF TIME. UH VERY SOON.THAT'S ON THE SCHEDULE YOU'LL SEE NEXT. SO, UH, ALL THOSE THINGS ARE MOVING FORWARD TO HAVE A SCHEDULE THAT WOULD GO OUT FOR BID. AND NOVEMBER. ALLOW FOR A WHAT THIS SCHEDULE SHOWS IS A TWO YEAR CONSTRUCTION WINDOW, WHICH PUTS EVERYTHING COMPLETION. BY THE END OF 2025.
WHICH IS, UH, ABOUT 56 MONTHS AHEAD OF WHAT WE PRESENTED BEFORE THINGS HAVE BEEN COMPRESSED, AND THEY COULD STILL BE COMPRESSED. WE HOPE AS WE GET INTO CONSTRUCTION BUT THIS IS PRETTY AGGRESSIVE SCHEDULE. THE GOAL IS STILL HAVE EVERYTHING FUNCTIONING BY 2025. THAT'S THAT'S IN THE 2025. SO WE ARE ON SCHEDULE AHEAD OF SCHEDULE AND, UH AND ON BUDGET, SO QUESTIONS.
OKAY THANK YOU. UM, QUESTIONS COUNCILMAN COVER. THANK YOU, MR MAYOR. WHAT IS THE FIRST FUNDING DEADLINE THAT WE FACE. AND HOW MUCH MONEY IS AT STAKE. IN AS TO WHETHER WE MEET THAT DEADLINE ON MONT WELL, THE. ONE OF THE GRANTS THAT BUILD BACK BETTER GRANT, WHICH IS A ARPAIO FUNDED PROJECT. AS SPECIFICALLY FOR THE DRINKING WATER TANK. UH AND IT HAS A DEADLINE THAT HAS TO BE SPENT BY MAY OF 27. MAY OF 2027. YES, SIR. AND THAT'S THE FIRST DEADLINE THAT WE LOOK AT THE OTHERS. THE OTHERS DON'T HAVE DEADLINES. YES, SIR. SO WE WERE COMPRESSED IT TO GET EVERYTHING DONE BY 2025. WELL AHEAD OF SCHEDULE RIGHT AND THE ONE WITH THE DEADLINE IS THE TANK. YES SIR. AND WHAT WAS THAT AGAIN? THAT'S A CALLED BUILD BACK. BETTER REGIONAL CHALLENGE.
GRANT. THAT WAS THE, UH THE COALITION PROJECT WITH THE PHARMACEUTICALS. AND THE DEADLINE DATE WAS WHAT MAY HAVE 2027. THANK YOU. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE PRE STATION. NEXT MOVE ON ITEM 12 STREETS. NEXT IS ITEM 13 FACILITIES. NO ITEMS FOR TONIGHT. 14 ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, MR MOORE ANYTHING TONIGHT? UM NEXT IS CITY MANAGERS AGENDA, MR ALTMAN. I HAVE NO UPDATES THIS EVENING, MR MAYOR. ALRIGHT, UM CAN WE? I KNOW. ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WAS ABOUT STREET PAVING. CAN WE FOLLOW DOMESTIC WERE MISS CHESTER'S QUESTION OR STREET, PAVING THAT DOWN? PEOPLE WILL HAVE A RESPONSE ON THAT FOR YOU
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ALL AND WE CAN WE CAN SHARE. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL GET WE'LL GET YOUR RESPONSE. MISS CHESTER, OKAY? UM AT THE NEXT MEETING, UM, NEXT BUSINESS OF REPORTS FROM THE CLERK, MISS LUCAS AND THE ITEMS ITEMS. NEXT IS BUSINESS OR REPORTS FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY, MR WILLIAMS. NO REPORT, MR MAYOR.* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.