Nov 21, 2023 Regular City Council Meeting

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MEETING NEXT WE'LL ROLL RIGHT ON INTO OUR NOVEMBER 21ST REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING. GOOD

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THEY'RE HAVING A FATHER'S ONCE AGAIN. WE COME BEFORE YOU, LORD. GIVING YOUR NAME ON THE PRAISE AND GLORY. WE THANK YOU FOR THIS DAY WE THANK YOU FOR THE BLESSINGS OF TODAY. NO LOWER. WE ASK THAT YOU BLESS THIS MEETING AND THESE PROCEDURES AS WE GO TO DO THE CITY'S WORK. WE ASK THAT YOU BE WITH US AND BLESS US, BUT WE ACTUALLY BLESSINGS UPON OUR CITIZENS HAVING THEIR FATHER KEEP THEM SAFE FROM ALL HURT, HARM AND DANGER. WE ACTUALLY HAVE BLESSINGS OF PUTTING OUR FIRST RESPONDERS ARE POLICE OFFICERS AND FIREFIGHTERS. I E. M S PUBLIC WORKS ALL THOSE WHO DO CITY BUSINESS. HAVING A FATHER. WE ASK THAT YOU BE WITH THEM AND THEIR FAMILIES AND BLESS THEM BE WITH THIS COUNCIL IN A SPECIAL WAY. GIVE US WISDOM ON HIGH HAVING A FATHER THAT WE CAN KEEP PETERSBURG MOVING AND POSITIVE WAY IS IN YOUR NAME. WE PRAY AND WE THANK YOU. AMEN.

AMEN. ASKING EVERYONE, PLEASE STAND AND JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. PLEASURE LEADER.

TWO BLACK UNITED STATES SO. WHICH IS SAYING ONE NATION UNDER GOD. INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. BEAUTIFUL, EH? WITH THE PLAN. I DIDN'T MOVE THE FLAG ON US. I THOUGHT IT WAS

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WE HAD A WORK SESSION WHEN THIS TOPIC AND COUNCIL ASKED THAT WE. PROVIDING OVERALL, UM, PROPOSAL AND PLAN AND PROCEDURES MANUAL FOR THIS AT THE DOCTOR ON THE NOVEMBER MEETING. SO THIS EVENING, WE HAVE MR REGGIE LANDS HERE THIS EVENING TO PRESENT TO COUNSEL OUR PRESENTATION ON THE PETERSBURG NEIGHBORHOOD TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PROGRAM. GOOD EVENING, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL EVENING. MAYOR. VICE MAYOR. HER NAME IS REGGIE LANCE, UNDER GENERAL MANAGER FOR THE STREET OPERATIONS DIVISION. I THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE THIS BRIEF PRESENTATION ON THE PETERSBURG NEIGHBORHOOD TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PROGRAM. WE'VE WORKED OVER THE LAST SIX MONTHS TO DEVELOP THIS, AND IT'S BEEN REVIEWED BY THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS IN UTILITIES, AND IT'S ALSO BEEN REVIEWED BY THE CITY MANAGER. AND TONIGHT I WANT TO JUST GIVE YOU THIS BRIEF PRESENTATION. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. WHEN WE STARTED THIS, I WANTED TO LOOK AT CERTAIN REALITIES THAT WE HAVE TO FACE. SOME OF THESE THINGS WILL BE IDENTIFIED AS WE GO THROUGH THIS SLIDES ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. UH WHEN YOU SUCCESSFULLY BRING THE MIC CLOSER, YES, SUCCESSFULLY IMPLEMENT A NEIGHBORHOOD TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PROGRAM, IT CAN RESULT IN GREAT IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE COMMUNITIES IN THE ROADWAYS WHERE THEY'RE IMPLEMENTED. WE CAN GET IMPROVED CONDITIONS, WE CAN ENHANCE THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS, UH, FOR THE RESIDENTS, BUSINESS BUSINESSES AND OTHER TRAVELERS, WHETHER THEY'RE WALKING, WHETHER THEY'RE BIKING, WHETHER THEY'RE ROLLING, DRIVING, TAKING TRANSIT OR USING OTHER MODES OF TRANSPORTATION.

TO GET WHERE THEY'RE GOING. NEXT SLIDE. THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS AND UTILITIES. THE STREET OPPOSITE RATIONS DIVISION WE PROMOTE. A CONTINUAL IMPROVEMENT STRATEGY. WE DO THIS? ALSO AS WE TRY TO IMPROVE THE CITY'S ROADWAY NETWORKS, UH, RESOURCE SCARCITY IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT ALL OF US HAVE TO FACE, AND IT'S A LONG TERM CHALLENGE THAT THE STREET OPERATION DIVISION RECOGNIZES TO DEAL WITH THIS. AND ALL THE IMPACTS THAT IT HAS ON OUR SERVICE DELIVERY CAPACITY. WEIRD GOING TO MOVE FORWARD IN FUTURE YEARS. TO ADDRESS THIS CHALLENGE BY PROMOTING AN INCREMENTAL CONCEPT. TO IMPROVE THE ROADWAYS . WE WILL DO THIS ANNUALLY. WE

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ANOTHER POSSIBLE. LEVEL ONE STRATEGY THAT SOMETIMES CAN YIELD REALLY GOOD CHANGES WOULD BE PUTTING UP WARNING SIGNS PUT UP ADDITIONAL SPEED LIMIT SIGNS. WE'VE ALSO IMPLEMENTED ALWAYS

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WHICH WHERE YOU CAN HAVE THE FINDS INCREASE FOR CERTAIN LOCALITIES. SO THAT I'M SORRY, CERTAIN LOCATIONS SO THAT IF SPEEDERS DO GET. TICKETED IN THOSE AREAS, THEN THE COURTS WILL BE ABLE TO SUPPORT ADDITIONAL FINES FOR THOSE LOCATIONS. LEVEL TWO STRATEGIES, WHICH ARE ACTUALLY CONSTRUCTION. UH WHICH INVOLVES HIGHER EXPENSES AND MORE DESIGN CONSIDERATIONS. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WILL CONSIDER WOULD BE SPEED TABLES. SPEED TABLES ARE DIFFERENT THAN SPEED BUMPS. THEY HAVE PROVEN TO BE VERY EFFECTIVE AND SAFE WHEN PROPERLY DESIGNED AND PROPERLY IMPLEMENTED. ANOTHER THING THAT CAN BE ALSO CONSIDERED AND CERTAIN LOCATION, IF APPROVED, WOULD BE A RAISED PEDESTRIAN CROSSWALK. MORE ADVANCED AND MORE. COSTLY WOULD BE SOMETHING LIKE A NEIGHBORHOOD TRAFFIC CIRCLE. BUT AGAIN, THESE WILL BE CONSIDERED AS A POSSIBLE OPTION IN CERTAIN LOCATIONS. CURB EXTENSIONS IS SIMILAR. HARD CONSTRUCTION THAT COULD TAKE PLACE IN THE ROADWAY THAT CAN IMPROVE SAFETY IN CERTAIN LOCATIONS. CERTAIN NEIGHBORHOODS. RODEWAY RECONFIGURATION IS A MUCH. I WOULD SAY A MUCH MORE DETAILED. AND MORE THOUGHTFUL. CONSIDERATION HAS TO BE GIVEN BEFORE THESE THINGS ARE DONE, BUT WHEN PROPERLY ENGINEERED ROADWAY RECONFIGURATION. CAN IMPROVE SAFETY BY REDUCING THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT IS CROSSING MULTIPLE LANES, WHICH MAKES IT DIFFICULT. FOR PEDESTRIANS, THE CROSSROAD ROADWAYS. IT ALSO HAS A TENDENCY TO INCREASE, POTENTIALLY HEAD ON COLLISIONS. THERE'S CONFLICTS OF PEOPLE TURNING THAT CAN CAUSE ADDITIONAL ACCIDENTS. AND BECAUSE THERE WERE MULTIPLE LANES WHERE YOU HAVE WIDER ROADS THAN NEEDED. BYE. BASIC HUMAN DRIVING NATURE. YOUR PRONE TO DRIVE FASTER WHEN YOU HAVE A WIDE OPEN RODEWAY, AS OPPOSED TO SOMETHING THAT VISUALLY LOOKS RESTRICTED TO YOU. SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT COULD VERY WELL BE CONSIDERED FOR SOME OF OUR ROADWAYS HERE AT PETERSBURG, FOR EXAMPLE, LIKE WASHINGTON. STREET AND WORK. AND THEN FINALLY, THE LAST LEVEL TWO. CONSIDERATION WOULD BE TRAFFIC SIGNAL COORDINATION. AND TIMING OPTIMIZATION AND AGAIN. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HAS TO BE A PROGRAMMED AND ENGINEERED TO BE PROPERLY IMPLEMENTED. BUT WHEN YOU DO A STUDY. AND THE STUDY INDICATES THAT BY CHANGING TRAFFIC SIGNAL TIMING AND WITH PROPER OPTIMIZATION, YOU CAN GET GOOD PLATOONING OF TRAFFIC. BUT YET DO IT IN A WAY THAT YOU'RE ALSO CONTROLLING SPEED. ALRIGHT. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. NOW WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT ROADWAY SAFETY FOR QUITE A WHILE HERE IN PETERSBURG. BEFORE YOU YOU SEE SOME EXAMPLES OF SOME THINGS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THE MANUAL, BUT ALSO THINGS THAT WE'VE ALSO STARTED THE IMPLEMENT. FOURTHLY ROAD, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU WE'VE DONE SOME SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS THERE. WE'VE IMPROVE THE.

SIGNING WE CORRECTED THE SIGNAGE . WE PUT ADDITIONAL CHEVRON'S ON THAT ON THE SEVERE, RIGHT? CURVE UP AT THE TOP OF THE HILL. THERE. WE INCLUDE IMPROVE THE ROADWAY MARKINGS, AND WE ALSO PUT CHEVRON'S AT THE OTHER CORNER THAT ROADWAY THAT WERE THAT GOES AROUND THE CURVE AND GOES ACROSS THE BRIDGE. AND THIS WAS DONE BECAUSE AS WE'VE STUDIED THE AREA, WE FOUND THAT IT WAS ONE OF THE HIGHEST CRASHED AREAS IN THE CITY OF PETERSBURG. SO WE PRIORITIZE THAT INDEED THAT AS A PUBLIC WORK INITIATIVE. ALSO I'M SURE YOU OFFER MILLION HAVE SEEN THE CROSSWALK HERE OUT ON NORTH SYCAMORE STREET. THIS IS ACTUALLY A LEVEL TWO STRATEGY WHERE ALRIGHT, CREATES A BUMP OUT. IT GIVES THE VISUAL NARROWING OF THE ROAD AS WELL AS

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BUT OVER THE MONTHS. THAT I HAVE BEEN MONITORING THAT LOCATION. I HAVE TO SAY THAT, FOR THE MOST PART, IT SEEMS TO HAVE HAD A POSITIVE EFFECT. AND THAT MANY DRIVERS REALLY DO SLOW DOWN AND TAKE DRIVING THAT ROUTE MORE SERIOUSLY, AND MORE CAUTIOUSLY, SO A REAL PLEASED WITH THAT RESULT. ALSO. PETERSBURG POLICE DEPARTMENT IS WORKING ON THIS INITIATIVE TO PUT IN AUTOMATED SPEED ENFORCEMENT AT THE TO SCHOOL LOCATIONS. WE'VE ASSISTED THEM WITH THAT PROCESS. ONE OF THE LOCATIONS IS ALREADY UP AND OPERATING. YOU CAN SEE THERE ON JOHNSON ROAD IN FRONT OF A HIGH SCHOOL. AND I'M SURE I'M SURE CHIEF CHRISTIAN CAN PROVIDE MORE INFORMATION ON WHAT THE PRELIMINARY FINDINGS ARE WITH THAT AUTOMATED SPEED ENFORCEMENT NEXT SLIDE. THIS IS ONE OF THE SUBJECTS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, AND WE'VE ALSO INCLUDED THIS AS A LEVEL TWO STRATEGY THAT WILL BE A AS A POSSIBLE OPTION IN THE APPROVED LOCATION. THIS IS EXAMPLE OF TWO DIFFERENT METHODS WE CAN DO IT. THE ASPHALT SPEED TABLE WAS BASICALLY A PERMANENT TYPE OF INSTALLATION ON THE ROADWAY. IT'S VERY COSTLY. INSTALLATION BUT IT CAN BE VERY EFFECTIVE AND WHEN IMPLEMENTED IN THE RIGHT LOCATIONS BELIEVE THE CITIZENS AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND EVERYONE WILL BE REAL PLEASED WITH THE RESULTS OF THAT. THE OTHER EXAMPLE IS A TEMPORARY AND WHEN I SAY TEMPORARY, IT'S A LONG TERM DEVICE, BUT IT'S EASILY REMOVED SO WE CAN IMPLEMENT THOSE AND IF WE ARE NOT SATISFIED WITH THEM, WE CAN TAKE THEM UP. OR IF WE DECIDE THAT WE WILL TAKE THEM UP. AND PUT IN A PERMANENT SPEED TABLE, IT CAN BE DONE. AND WE'RE CONSIDERING THOSE STRONGLY AS TO USE IN PILOT PROGRAMS ON CERTAIN STREETS. EXCUSE ME AND MONITOR THE DATA TO SEE IF WE'RE GETTING THE RESULTS THAT WE WANT TO GET. HE WAS RIGHT. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THERE ARE A COUPLE LOCATIONS IN THE CITY OF PETERSBURG. WHERE WE HAVE TRAFFIC CIRCLES. IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE WILL CONSIDER IMPLEMENTING THE FUTURE AGAIN AFTER CAREFUL STUDY AND CONSIDERATION. IF WE CAN. DECIDED TO MOVE FORWARD AND CONFINED THE FUNDING AND WE WILL PUT MORE THAN LITTLE MANY TRAFFIC CIRCLES IN DEFINITELY WANT TO LOOK AT IN THE FUTURE IMPLEMENTING RAISED PEDESTRIAN CROSSWALKS AS WE DO, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS DO THE ROADWAYS, SO IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN CONSIDER. AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT A LOT OF LOCALITIES HAVE CONSIDERED AND ACTUALLY IMPLEMENTING NOW. AND. I CAN TELL YOU FROM MY TRAVELS TO THE STATE OF VIRGINIA. I'M SEEING MORE AND MORE OF THIS, AND I'M SEEING MORE TRAFFIC CALMING INITIATIVES. THAT ARE BEING CONSIDERED AND ARE BEING IMPLEMENTED AND COMMUNITIES AROUND THIS DAY. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. NEXT SLIDE. THANK YOU.

THE ROADWAY RECONFIGURATION. HERE'S AN EXAMPLE OF IT. AND AS I MENTIONED EARLIER IT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD DEFINITELY CONSIDER AND HAVE THE ENGINEERING FIRMS LOOK AT IT FOR US AND DOING ANALYSIS OF WHETHER IT WOULD IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO DO THIS. ON WASHINGTON STREET AND WITH CURB EXTENSIONS. THERE IS ONLY ONE LOCATION THAT I CURRENTLY THINK THAT WE COULD THAT WE WOULD MAYBE WANT TO CONSIDER THAT AND THAT'S ACTUALLY AT THIS INTERSECTION HERE. IN FRONT OF THE LIBRARY. IT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO HAVE SOME ENGINEERING ANALYSIS DONE AND COST ESTIMATION. AND SEE WHAT SORT OF IMPROVEMENTS. WE COULD DERIVE FROM THE

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NOW. I WAS ASKED TO LOOK AT EAST FILLMORE STREET AS PART OF THIS PROCESS, TOO. NOW. INITIALLY, THE CRASH DATA FOR IS FILLMORE STREET. THE CRASH TODAY THAT REALLY DIDN'T SUPPORT ANY SPECIAL TRAFFIC CALMING NEEDS. THE PERCENTAGE OF SPEEDERS ON THE ROAD WAS. WELL BELOW THE 85TH PERCENTILE. THE ASSESSMENT AND ENGINEERING VIEW REVIEW PROCESS DID IDENTIFY, HOWEVER, THAT THERE WAS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR TRAFFIC CALMING THAT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC CROSSING. THE ROADWAY TO ACCESS THE PART. THESE FINDINGS AND RECOMMENDATIONS WERE SUBMITTED TO THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS AND UTILITIES FOR FINAL REVIEW AND APPROVAL. WHAT IS PROPOSED FOR FY 25. THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE RESURFACING THAT ROAD ANYWAY, BECAUSE IT'S UH IT NEEDS SOME SERIOUS ATTENTION. THERE'S A LOT OF. SUBSIDENCE IS OCCURRING ON THE ROADWAY. AND THAT'S GONNA REQUIRE US TO DO A MAJOR RESURFACING PROJECT ON THAT ROADWAY, SO THAT WOULD BE AN EXCELLENT TIME FOR US TO CONSIDER TO DO IN A TRAFFIC CALMING IT WOULDN'T INVOLVE RESURFACING OF THE ROAD. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE CONSIDERING IS DOING A DEMONSTRATION PROJECT TO EVALUATE THE EFFECTIVENESS FOR INSTALLING REMOVABLE SPEED TABLES IN CONJUNCTION WITH SIDEWALK IMPROVEMENTS. UH AS PART OF THAT PROJECT. WE WOULD ALSO INSTALL ADDITIONAL SIGNAGE FOR THE MOTORIST. HOPEFULLY THAT WOULD IMPACT THEIR BEHAVIOR. AND ALONG WITH THE ROADWAY PROJECT. WE WOULD ALSO CONSIDER DOING SOME ROADWAY MARKINGS. TO AGAIN, POSSIBLY CREATE THAT VISUAL. THE FACT THAT YOU WANT TO LOOK FROM THE DRIVER'S PERSPECTIVE. DO I NEED TO BE DRIVING SLOWER? THERE ARE THINGS THAT YOU CAN DO IN THE ROADWAY MARKINGS THAT MAY BE VERY EFFECTIVE ON THAT PARTICULAR ROAD. AND I BASICALLY CONCLUDES THE BRIEF PRESENTATION ASSOCIATED WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PROGRAM. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OPEN TO THE QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, MR LANCE. FOR THE PRESENTATION, UM I REALLY LIKE THAT RUBBERIZED SPEED TABLE. YOU JUST SHOWED. WHAT IS THE COST OF THAT? SPEED TABLE. I HAVEN'T UPDATED THAT LAST THREE MONTHS, BUT THE LAST TIME I CHECKED, IT WAS RIGHT AROUND $12,000 FOR THE ROVER RIGHT SPEED TABLES. CONTROL 12,000 APIECE. YES CONVERSELY, THE ASPHALT GOING TO BE MORE LIKE 18,000. BUT. FROM A CAUTIONARY PERSPECTIVE. I DO HAVE TO SAY THAT WE ARE WE ARE SEEING REALLY HIGH INCREASES IN ALL OF THEIR PURCHASES. AND I HOPE THOSE PRICES STAY CLOSE TO THAT. BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY FROM A BUDGETARY PERSPECTIVE. WERE CHALLENGED EVERY YEAR. WE REALLY DON'T HAVE THE MONEY. TWO. DO WHAT WE CONSIDER OUR PRIDE, HIS THAT'S MAINTAINING THE ROADS, SIDEWALKS AND THOSE TYPES OF PROGRAMS. AT THE SAME TIME. WE DO WANT TO LOOK AT THE OPPORTUNITIES TO IMPLEMENT TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURES. AS PART OF THE RESURFACING. PROGRAM THAT WE DO EACH YEAR. SO I'M REALLY HOPING THAT THE COST WON'T GET TOO MUCH OUT OF CONTROL THAT WE REALLY CAN'T IMPLEMENT THEM AS PART OF THE ANNUAL PAVING PROGRAM. BECAUSE THEY GET TOO EXPENSIVE. THEN WE WILL HAVE TO LOOK AT THE MOVING THEM INTO A SORT OF A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROCESS, WHICH POTENTIALLY WOULD SLOW ABILITY TO DO A SORT OF ANNUAL CONTINUAL. IMPROVEMENT PROCESS, RIGHT? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU FOR THAT. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT $12,000 APIECE. UM OTHER THING. YOU KNOW IF YOU'VE SEEN THE ROUNDABOUT THINGS ALL OF THE EXPANSION OF THE CURBS OUT AS WASTE, TOO. KEEP TRAFFIC MOVING AND KEEP PEOPLE SAFE. UM IS THERE ANYTHING OUT THERE WAS THE LAST WE CAN DO WITH BECAUSE OVER ON SOUTH PARK DRIVE. UM. GOT COMING THROUGH BATTLEFIELD PARK TO FLAKE ROAD. YOU KNOW, SINCE THE TIME HAS CHANGED NOW, FIVE O'CLOCK IS ABOUT DARK. I STILL HAVE SO MANY KIDS THAT'S WALKING

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AND WHAT ONE OF THE BEST THINGS TO DO. SOMETIMES IT'S ACTUALLY GO THERE AT NIGHT AND LOOK AT THESE SORT OF CONDITIONS BECAUSE SOMETIMES THINGS ARE POP OUT AT YOU AND GO. WELL, IF WE DO THIS, AND THAT IT MAY HELP THE SITUATION. OBVIOUSLY ROADWAY MARKINGS CAN IMPROVE. UH, THE VISIBILITY THE FOR THE DRIVERS TO SEE WHERE THEIR LANES ARE. AND THAT CAN IMPACT THE PEDESTRIANS MAYBE WALKING ALONGSIDE OF THE ROAD BECAUSE OF THE CAR. THERE'S OFF THE ROAD, THEN YOU COULD HAVE A UNFORTUNATE ACCIDENT AND HOSPITAL. INJURIES AND DEBT, RIGHT WILL DEFINITELY LOOK AT IT. ULTIMATELY. CURB AND GUTTER AND SIDEWALKS WOULD PROBABLY BE THE LONG TERM SOLUTION, BUT UNFORTUNATELY THAT'S GOING TO MOVE INTO THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT REALM AND BUT THESE ARE THE THINGS PERSONALLY, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE CITY IDENTIFIED CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS EVEN IF WE CAN'T FUND THEM NOW. WE CAN CREATE THE PRELIMINARY WORK. PUT THEM INTO OUR SORT OF PORK INTO OUR HOLDING LIST. SO THAT WE CAN GO FORTH AND TRY TO FIND THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT GRANTS FUNDS. IN OTHER WAYS TO MOVE FORWARD CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS. OKAY. THANK YOU, MR LANCE, UM TALISMAN JONES. HOW YOU DOING? GREAT YOURSELF. ALRIGHT. SO THIS PROGRAM. IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE SAYING THAT WE'RE GONNA DO I KNOW SOME OF THE STUFF I SAW IN HERE AND WE'RE ALREADY DOING AND I THINK THE AUTOMATED ONE ON JOHNSON ROAD THAT APPEARS TO BE VERY EFFECTIVE. UM HE ALWAYS STOPPED CONTROL. APPEARS TO BE VERY EFFECTIVE. AND INCLUDING THE ELECTRONIC SPEED INDICATOR.

APPEARS TO BE VERY EFFECTIVE. THOSE ARE LEVEL ONES, RIGHT, RIGHT. BUT THAT WENT ON THOSE SYCAMORE STREET. THAT THAT, UH. WHO ALLEN HAD COMES OUT INTO THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET IN FRONT OF OUR FISCAL MANAGEMENT BUILDING. AS A DEATH TRAP. HE DIDN'T SHOW THE PICTURE THAT LEADS RIGHT UP TO THAT. YOU SHOWED THAT IT'S NOT NATURAL FAULT. IT'S JUST SOMEBODY TOLD YOU TO PUT IT THERE. BUT THERE'S AN ARROW THAT LEADS YOU RIGHT TO THAT SIDEWALK. BY THE TIME YOU CROSS TAB STREET IN FRONT OF THAT SIGN AND SAY, OH, SLIDE OVER OLD PEOPLE BE RUNNING INTO THAT THING ALL THE TIME. YOU KNOW, UM AND IT ALSO SHORTENS THE WIDTH OF THE STREET. I DO MY RV DOWN THERE ONE TIME TRYING TO GET PAST WITH OTHER CARS COMING FAST, AND IT'S TOO SMALL. YOU GOTTA STOP AND LET OTHER CARS GO PAST. TO MEET US A TERRIBLE DESIGN. YOU KNOW IT. WE NEED TO RELOOK AT THAT. I DON'T KNOW WHY WE AIN'T JUST BUILD A SMALL RAMP FOR PEOPLE TO WALK UP ON, UM ALSO OKAY? YEAH, THAT THAT IS A TERRIBLE DESIGN. UM. PRETTY MUCH ALL I GOT, MAN. I JUST WANT TO PUT MY TWO CENTS IN ABOUT THAT DESIGN RIGHT THERE. I DON'T I DON'T PARTICULARLY LIKE IT IS A MORE OF A HAZARD. IT IS HOPING ANYBODY SO LIKE THAT. OKAY. CASTLE COPPER. MR MAYOR. THANK YOU, MR LANCE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. AH! I KNOW A LOT OF THOUGHT AND TOM WAS PUT INTO THIS, AND I'M VERY GRATEFUL TO YOU. I WAS I DON'T KNOW WHETHER YOU SAW GREAT GRIN ON MY FACE.

WHEN YOU SAID THAT THE FOUR WAY STOPS HAVING A VERY POSITIVE EFFECT. OF THIS COUNCIL WENT OUT A BIT ON A LIMB. UH IN ANTICIPATING THAT THAT WOULD BE THE CASE. BUT WE KNEW THAT IF IT WAS NOT THE CASE WE WOULD BE BLAMED FOR IT. AH! BUT FORTUNATELY UH, THE WAY THINGS TURNED OUT. AH OUR EXPECTATIONS WERE FULFILLED BY WHAT BECAME REALITY. AND I WAS DELIGHTED TO HEAR YOU SAY THAT THERE WAS FOUR WAYS STOP SIGNS. HAVING A POSITIVE EFFECT AND EVEN MORE

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I WAS ALSO PLEASED TO HEAR ABOUT THE SPEED CAMERAS IN THE SCHOOL ZONES AGAIN SOMETHING THAT THIS COUNCIL HAS ADVOCATED. AND IT'S BEING DONE. AND I THINK THAT WILL PROTECT OUR STUDENTS TO SOME EXTENT, AND THAT'S WONDERFUL. ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO PROTECT ANY CITIZEN IN PETERSBURG IS SOMETHING WE WANT TO DO, ASSUMING WE CAN AFFORD TO DO IT. UM THE. NEXT THOUGHT I HAD IS REALLY A QUESTION. I THINK IS THE GAME PLAN. ON PAGE THREE, THE LAST FOUR NEXT TO LAST PARAGRAPH, IT SAYS, HOWEVER , IF RESIDENTS BUSINESSES, POLITICAL LEADERS OR STAFF MEMBERS NOMINATED STREET FOR STUDY. THE CITY WILL FOLLOW THESE GUIDELINES TO ASSESS THE SCOPE AND NATURE OF THE SAFETY OR OPERATIONAL CONCERN AND RECOMMEND APPROPRIATE MEASURES AS NECESSARY BASED ON FUNDING AVAILABILITY THAT SEEMS TO BE KENNEDY. THE ACTION LEVER IN THIS REPORT. AM I UNDERSTANDING THAT CORRECT? UH YEAH. IF I'M UNDERSTANDING YOUR QUESTION, I BELIEVE YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. AND. WERE COMPELLED TO HAVE THAT AS PART OF THE PROGRAM BECAUSE WE CAN COME UP WITH ALL THE PROJECTS THAT WE WANT. IF THERE'S NO FUNDING AVAILABLE THAT WE CAN IMPLEMENT THEM. YES, SIR. AND IF WE'RE IF WE'RE PUT IN THE SITUATION WHERE WE HAVE TO CHOOSE BETWEEN DOING THIS PROJECT, BUT IT MEANS THAT WE HAVE TO GO IN AND TRANSFER FUNDS FROM OUR PRE PROGRAMMED ACTIVITIES FOR THAT FISCAL YEAR. THEN WE AREN'T NECESSARILY MOVING FORWARD BECAUSE WE DO THIS SPOT PROJECT, BUT NOW THERE'S OTHER WORK THAT WAS ALREADY PROGRAMMED AND DEEMED TO BE. AND ASSESS ITTY. WE'RE NOW DIFFERING THAT AND THAT'S ONE OF THE ONE OF THE PROBLEMS THAT STREET OPERATIONS HAS IS. WE HAVE SO MUCH DEFERRED MAINTENANCE, AND MOST OF THAT IS DRIVEN BY THE FACT THAT THE FUNDING IS A IS A PROBLEM FOR SO EACH YEAR. WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL. TO STAY ON TASK AND DO THE PRE PROGRAMMED PROJECTS TO MOVE THE CITY FORWARD. WELL THANK YOU, MR LANCE. UH LET ME TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY THEN TO NOMINATE UH, SOUTH SYCAMORE STREET. FOR STUDY RECOMMENDATION AND PROPOSED BUDGET. FROM THE DOUGHBOY TO CHURCH'S FRIED CHICKEN. THAT IS A SPEEDWAY. AND, UH, IT. IT REALLY PUTS THE LIVES OF PEOPLE AT RISK. AND NOW WE'VE HAD ONE PEDESTRIAN DEATH. IN THAT DRAG STRIP. AND EVERY TIME I WALK ALONGSIDE OF SYCAMORE STREET I SEE PEOPLE GOING 4045. UM, EVEN THOUGH IT'S AH THE SPEED LIMIT IS 25. SO UM, I'M NOMINATING SOUTH SYCAMORE STREET, DO YOU FROM THE DOUGHBOY DOWN THE CHURCH'S FRIED CHICKEN. DO YOU NEED ANYTHING MORE BEFORE YOU UNDERTAKE THE STUDY, RECOMMENDATION AND PROPOSE A BUDGET? WELL, THE PROCESS NORMALLY REQUIRES SOMEONE TO FILL OUT THE TRAFFIC CALMING REQUEST FOR HIM. OKAY, HAND. DID YOU HAVE YOU AND OTHERS HAVE BROUGHT UP? THE CONCERN FOR SYCAMORE STREET, AND I ALSO AM CONCERNED ABOUT SYCAMORE STREET, SO I'LL BE MORE, DO IT MYSELF AND JUST CREATE THE FORM AND PUT IT INTO THE SYSTEM BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE ALREADY HAVE ON MY LIST IS I WOULD LIKE TO ENGAGE IN TRAFFIC ENGINEERING FIRM TO PROVIDE US SOME TECHNICAL EXPERTISE BY LOOKING AT THAT CORRIDOR AND SEE WHAT THE OPPORTUNITIES ARE. WELL THAT'S GREAT, BECAUSE AS A 25 MILE AN HOUR SPEED ZONE UM.

THERE MAY VERY WELL BE THINGS THAT WE CAN IMPLEMENT. OVER A PERIOD OF TIME THAT CAN HELP BRING DOWN THE SPEEDS ON ON THAT ROADWAY. THAT WOULD HELP. WHAT I'M SORRY. HELP BRING DOWN THE SPEEDS ON THE ROADWAY. YES SIR. HAVE TO YOU KNOW WE WOULD HAVE TO GET TRAFFIC ENGINEERING ANALYSIS OF IT. TO DETERMINE WHAT WOULD BE THE BEST LOCATIONS . ALL RIGHT. WELL IF YOU WOULD PUT THAT, UH, NOMINATION OR WHATEVER IT'S CALLED INTO THE SYSTEM. AND WOULD YOU PLEASE

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YOU KNOW IN LARGE. YOU EVEN HEAR STOP PUTTING ON THE ONLY, UH, STREET. THEY'RE STILL RUNNING IT LIKE CRAZY. SO I THINK WE MADE A MAY LOOK AT PUTTING THE LIGHT BACK UP THERE. YOU KNOW, I STILL STAY SHOULD HAVE THE POWER THERE BECAUSE WE SEE IT WAS JUST AN ACCIDENT THERE THIS PAST WEEK BECAUSE SOMEONE HAD RAN THE STOP SIGN. AND, UH, HIT HIT HIT A CAR THAT WAS TURNING KEPT STRAIGHT.

ALSO I WANT TO KNOW WHAT DETERMINES AND NEIGHBORHOODS STREET PAVING. YOU KNOW WHAT? HOW DO WE GAUGE WITH STREETS GET PAID IN WHICH STREETS DON'T GET PAID. I'M TALKING ABOUT ACTUALLY NEIGHBORHOODS, NOT OUR MAIN STREETS, BUT THE NEIGHBORHOODS. WE BASICALLY EACH YEAR. LOOK AT THE CONDITIONS OF THE ROAD. COURSE WE GET COMPLAINTS FROM CITIZENS. WE OBVIOUSLY GOT LOOK AT THOSE AND DO SPOT TREATMENTS. BUT AS PART OF THAT, YOU KNOW, WE ALSO SEEING THE OVERALL CONDITION OF THE ROADWAYS. AND EACH YEAR WE CREATE A LIST OF POTENTIAL ROADWAYS THAT WE WOULD REPAVE. UM, AGAIN, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT OUR BUDGET. WE HAVE TO PRIORITIZE WHICH ROADS WE NEED TO DO. UH, WHEN TWO, FOR EXAMPLE , FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR, WE'RE WORKING ON THE LIST THAT WE CREATED LAST YEAR. SO IF A CITIZEN OR COUNCIL MEMBER CITY MANAGER, ANYBODY HAS A PARTICULAR ROADWAY THEY WANT US TO CONSIDER. COUNCIL CAN COMMUNICATE THROUGH THE CITY MANAGEMENT WILL BE GRADUALLY LOOK AT IT AND MAKE A DETERMINATION AS TO WHETHER IT SHOULD BE DONE. AND IF SO, WHEN SHOULD WE PUT IT ON THE COWEN? WHETHER IT'S YOU KNOW IF WE HAD 2526 OR OR WHATEVER. UNFORTUNATELY WE HAVE SO MANY ROADWAYS THAT ARE AND THEY ARE NEED OF RESURFACING. I CAN TELL YOU WE HAVE QUITE THE BACKLOG. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, AND? AND, YES, UM JUST PIGGYBACKING ALL THAT. I KNOW I'VE GOTTEN SOME CALLS TO FROM THE SYCAMORE STREET, TOO. NO FROM CREATOR ROAD TO. FROM WHERE THE ROAD FROM 95 TO CREATE A ROAD. HE'S GOTTEN LIKE VERY ROUGH RIGHT NOW. IT'S A LOT OF POTHOLES AND STUFF IN THERE. I KNOW WE'VE GOTTEN A FEW CALLS ON THAT. I THINK WE HAVE TO POINT THERE ARE A LOT OF OUR MAIN ROSE. I NEED OF SOME SORT OF RE SERVICING BECAUSE EVEN PARTS OF SYCAMORE STREET. NOW HE'S GETTING KIND OF ROUGH FROM FROM CAMERON FIELD FROM THE DOUGHBOY. ALL THE WAY TO ON THE HILL SCHOOL. AND I KNOW THOSE ARE TYPICALLY ONES THAT ARE ON THE RE SERVICING CALENDAR. SO FAR. WE CAN WORK ON GETTING GETTING THOSE MAIN ONES. UM, I GUESS AT LEAST PATCHED UP IN THE MEANTIME. SO ARE THESE PEOPLE WON'T BE BUMP IT UP AND THEY'LL YOU KNOW WHEN I MADE ROADS UM, COUNSELOR, MS. SMITH LEE? YES. I WANT TO PIGGYBACK ALSO. UM IN THE VARIOUS VILLE AREA LIKE PATERSON STREET. UM.

GRAND AVENUE. OH ESPECIALLY GRAND AVENUE. I'VE BEEN OVER THERE SEVERAL TIMES. THEY JUST LIKE PATCHED IT UP, BUT IT REALLY NEEDS A MAKEOVER AND ALSO , UM, EAST BOOKER CIRCLE. IN THAT AREA. BASICALLY AUGUSTA AVENUE. UM, FROM THE BEGINNING ALL THE WAY TO PATERSON STREET.

AND IF YOU WANT, UM I CAN MEET YOU OUT THERE SO I CAN SHOW YOU SOME THINGS. I THINK YOU AND I MET ON GRANT AVENUE. MAYBE ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO. POSTURING THEY DON'T KNOW, RIGHT? OKAY? BUT I

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WHERE THIS CITY HAD A CALENDAR. WE'RE DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS WOULD GET PAID THIS YEAR AND THE OPPOSITE WOMAN GET PAID THE NEXT YEAR. THINGS LIKE THAT. WE NEED TO GET BACK ON THAT MAINTENANCE SCHEDULE BECAUSE WHAT'S HAPPENING NOW? UH APPARENTLY, SOME OF OUR STAFF IS NOT DRIVING DOWN OUR STREETS TO SEE THAT THESE THINGS ARE IN BAD SHAPE. AMANDA HADN'T BEEN PAVED IN YEARS. YOU KNOW? THAT'S THAT'S ONE OF OUR KEY NEIGHBORS. THAT WAS ONE OF YOURS, YOU KNOW, AND IN HIS BED. THESE PEOPLE ARE PAYING TAX DOLLARS. SO TO HEAR US SAY WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY.

I CAME BY THAT BECAUSE YOU GOT WHAT YOU CALL A BUDGET. AND IF YOU NEED MONEY, IF YOU CAN FORESEE THAT, YOU NEED MONEY. YOU GOTTA PUT IT IN. RIGHT SO WE'RE GONNA PROVE IT, BUT TO JUST I HATE TO SAY IGNORE IT, BUT RIGHT ON THE STREETS AND SEE, WE JUST AIN'T GOT THE MONEY. DON'T ASSUME WE GOT IT. WE GOT IT. THEY PAYING THE MONEY. THEY PANICKED. AND WE'RE NOT GIVING THEM ANYTHING BUT MR VEHICLES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. YOU KNOW, WE GOT TO GET BACK ON THAT MAINTENANCE PROGRAM AND I'M NOT FUSSING. WHICH I'M JUST SAYING. WE CAN'T JUST SAY WE'RE GOING TO RIDE OUT THERE. LOOK AT IT. WE ARE TO BE ON A SCHEDULE, MAKING SURE THAT THESE STREETS AND EVERYONE WOULD GET TENDED TO OKAY? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR LAST FOR THE PRESENTATIONS. VERY INFORMATIVE. THANK YOU. OKAY? UM NEXT MOVE ON TO ITEM SIX RESPONSES TO

[6. Responses to Previous Public Information Posted]

[7. Approval of Consent Agenda (to include minutes of previous meetings)]

[8. Official Public Hearings]

SO IT'S A MEMBRANE THAT'S USED OUT OF ROOFING MATERIAL. ON SEPTEMBER 13TH APPLICATION WAS HEARD BEFORE THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD AND DENIED BASED ON SOME OF THE DESIGN GUIDES OUTLINED IN CHAPTER FOUR F OF THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION DESIGN GUIDELINES. SEPTEMBER, 23RD AND APPEAL WAS PRESENTED TO THE CLERK OF COUNSEL AND THEN HERE WE ARE TODAY PRESENTING THAT APPEAL AND HAVING THAT PUBLIC HEARING SO HERE YOU CAN SEE IN EXCERPT FROM THE DESIGN GUIDELINES ON ROOF. SO THIS IS REALLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, SPECIFICALLY TODAY AND WHAT THIS

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THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. RIGHT SAYING NO MORE HANDS. IT'S PROBABLY HEARING IS CLOSED. NEXT WE GO TO QUESTIONS DISCUSSIONS WITH THE COUNCIL. STARBOARD COUNSELOR CUPBOARD. THANK YOU, MR MAYOR. I MOVE THAT WE UPHOLD THE DECISION OF THE R B. I THINK WE HAVE TO APPLY THE SAME RULES TO EVERYBODY. AND IF WE START MAKING EXCEPTIONS FOR ONE PERSON , WE NO LONGER EVER RULE. UM COUNCILOR COVER. CAN WE HOLD THAT MOTION FOR A SECOND NOTE? COUNCILMAN JONES HAD A QUESTION.

SURE AND WE'LL HEAD BACK TO YOUR COUNCILMAN JONES. YOU KNOW, IT'S REAL FUNNY. HOW WE SAY. DON'T HOLD IT FOR ONE PERSON OR DO THIS FOR THE NEXT PERSON. LET ME GO BACK TO THESE PICTURES. ARE

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BLIGHTED. I SEE MESS AND A LOT OF IT COMES FROM US DEVELOPING THAT MESS. WHEN ARE WE GOING TO CLEAN UP OUR OWN MESS? I HAVE A QUESTION FOR MISS SAM. MICHAEL, MEET MR BASTARD. WHAT WHAT IS THE COST DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THOSE TWO UM TWO ROUTES FOR THEIR BUILDING BECAUSE I KNOW HE'S ORIGINALLY A METAL ROOFS ACTUALLY COME DOWN AND VALUE QUITE A BIT, BECAUSE NOW THEY'RE PREFABRICATED PRE PAINTED, SO THERE ARE A LOT LESS EXPENSIVE THAN THEY USED TO BE. BUT I DON'T HAVE THE NUMBERS TO TELL YOU THE DIFFERENCE, BUT I'D LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT FROM MR JONES.

I KNOW HE'S FAIRLY NEW ON COUNCIL. I DON'T KNOW IF HE'S AWARE OF THE FACT THAT BEING IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT ALLOWS PEOPLE TO REHAB THESE BUILDINGS WITH TAX CREDITS. IT'S NOT FEASIBLE TO REHAB THESE BUILDINGS. WITHOUT THE TAX CREDIT. I I'M SURE YOU'RE WELL AWARE. I'VE DONE A FAIRLY LARGE PROJECT AND A LOT OF LARGE PROJECTS IN THE CITY WERE DONE WITH TAX CREDITS. THEY WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN DONE IF IT WASN'T FOR THE TAX CREDITS. WITHOUT BEING A HISTORIC DISTRICT. YOU WON'T GET THE TAX CREDITS IF YOU DO NOT FOLLOW THE RULES FROM NATIONAL PARKS DEPARTMENT OF INTERIOR'S AND, UH, VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF HISTORIC RESOURCES. WE WILL LOSE THE DESIGNATION AS A HISTORIC DISTRICT IF WE GO AGAINST TOO MANY OF THE RULES THEY WILL PULL THAT DESIGNATION. AND THERE GOES ALL THE TAX CREDITS, AND THERE GOES ALL THE REHABILITATION OF THE LARGER PROJECTS THAT THE AVERAGE PERSON WILL NOT BE ABLE TO AFFORD TO DO WITH THE TAX CREDITS. THEY WILL HAVE A CHANCE TO ACTUALLY BRINGING BACK SOME OF THESE LARGER BUILDINGS. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WERE AWARE OF THAT, BUT THAT'S THE REASON WHY WE HAVE TO DO THAT. THE RB REALLY WORKS HARD AT TRYING TO MAKE THINGS EASIER FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE RESTORING THE BUILDINGS WHEN WE CAN IF THERE'S A GRAY AREA, WE WILL TRY TO BEND IN THE FAVOR OF THE PERSON THAT'S TRYING TO REHAB THE BUILDING. BUT WHEN WE HAVE A RULE TO FOLLOW, WE HAVE TO PROTECT THE HISTORIC DISTRICT SO THAT THE CITY OF PETERSBURG DOES NOT LOSE IT. THAT'S THE REASON WHY WE HAVE TO PLANT OUR HEELS SOMETIME. IF THERE'S YOU KNOW, RIGHT, BUT BUT MISS BASSINET, SO YOU'RE TELLING ME NOW THAT TAX CREDITS COULD BE USED TO FIX THE ROOF? I'M SORRY. ARE THOSE TAX CORRECT CREDIT IS ELIGIBLE TO BE PUT TOWARDS THE IF HE'S DOING ENOUGH RENOVATION, HE CAN DO IT.

IT'S A PERCENTAGE. THAT HE HAS TO DO IN ORDER TO OF THE VALUE OF THE BUILDING IN ORDER TO QUALIFY FOR TAX CREDITS WHEN SOMEBODY'S DOING A VACANT BUILDING THEY'VE GOT A GROUND THAT'S REAL LOW, AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE PUTTING IN ALL THIS RENOVATION. THEN THEY CAN GO FOR THE TAX CREDITS. I DON'T HAVE THOSE NUMBERS. AS FAR AS WHAT THE PERCENTAGES EACH PROJECT HAS A DIFFERENT LEVEL. OKAY DO WE KNOW WHAT WAS GOING INTO THE BUILDING THAT HE'S TRYING TO PUT THIS ROOF ON? NO WE DON'T KNOW THAT. ALL I KNOW IS THAT HE WANTS TO REPAIR THE BUILDING. I MEAN, REPAIR THE ROOF DUE TO THE FACT THAT HE'S GOT SOME LEAKS. I RECOMMENDED HIM TRYING TO PAINT.

THE ROOF WITH THIS PARTICULAR MATERIAL THAT A LOT OF THE CITY BUILDINGS OR I SHOULD SAY THE BUILDINGS IN THE CITY HAVE ON THEM. AND HE SAID THAT HIS RUFER TOLD HIM IT NEEDED TO BE

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EVEN WITH TAX CREDITS. WE ALREADY SAID YOU I'VE HEARD MANY TIMES. I SAID THAT, BUT WE'RE NOT DOING IT BECAUSE OF MONEY. WE DON'T WANT TO GET INTO ANYBODY'S POCKET AND TELL HIM WHAT HE CAN AFFORD WHEN HE CAN'T AFFORD BUT NOW YOU'RE TELLING ME THAT TAX CREDITS AND ALL THAT DEMAND. JUST WANT TO PUT SOMETHING ON THE OTHER THAN THE TOP. I WANT SOMETHING ON THE OTHER THAN A TARP. THAT'S GOING TO PRESERVE THE BUILDING. BECAUSE RIGHT NOW YOU'RE GONNA BE STUCK WITH A TARP. AND HE PROBABLY WALKED AWAY AND IT'S GONNA BE JUST LIKE THE REST OF THE BUILDINGS ON EAST WASHINGTON STREET, WEST WASHINGTON STREET. IT'S JUST AS SIMPLE. WE KEEP RUNNING PEOPLE AWAY FROM HERE, MAN. WE GOTTA STOP THIS MESS. ALRIGHT QUESTION OTHER QUESTIONS FROM MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. RIGHT, IF NOT GO BACK TO COUNCILOR COVER BIRTH. THANK YOU, MR MAYOR. UH, TO PROTECT OUR HISTORIC DISTRICTS. AND TO APPLY THE SAME RULES TO EVERYBODY. A MOVE THAT WE. AFFIRM THE DECISION OF THE R B. COUNCILOR MYERS. I'D LIKE TO PUT A SUPPLEMENTAL MOTION IN IS THAT THIS COMEBACK WITH THE PETITIONER. TO PARTICIPATE.

ALRIGHT SO, UM, SO THAT WE'D UNDERSTAND HIS UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT IT IS TO MOVE FORWARD THE ROOF NOW I DID HERE. GENTLEMEN, TALK ABOUT THE LAST AMERICAN. FINISH THAT GOES ON THE ROOF, AND I'M NOT SURE IF MR BROCKWELL UNDERSTANDS OR BUT HE HAS NO ONE HERE REPRESENTING HIM AT THIS PARTICULAR TIME, SO BUT THAT'S SO IT CAN'T COUNSELING CLIENTS. ALL RIGHT, SO WE HAVE A TALISMAN COVERS MOTION ON THE FLOOR COUNCIL COVER. DID YOU WANT TO I DIDN'T SEE I DIDN'T SEE IT.

SECOND OVER THERE. ALRIGHT, VICE. WE'RE HERE. I WANNA SECOND BUT I WANT TO MAKE A STATEMENT AFTER THAT SECOND SECOND BUT. THE END OF THE DAY. HE KNOWS THAT THIS HEARING IS HERE. HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN HERE. TO DEFEND WHATEVER CAUSE HE HAS OR WHATEVER, AND IT'S JUST NOT YOU KNOW, I'M A SUCKING IT BECAUSE JUST TO GET HIM IN FRONT OF US. BUT I'M PRETTY SURE HE KNEW THAT THIS THIS HEARING WAS GOING ON. SO IT WAS ALMOST LIKE A SITUATION WHERE WE'RE KICKING IT DOWN THE CANE AGAIN, SO I STUCK IN THE MOTION SECONDED COUNCIL COVERAGE MOTION. I AM OKAY, COUNSELOR. KNOW HOW ALRIGHT SO I GOTTA TAKE COUNSELOR COVERS MOTION. THERE IS GOING TO DIE FOR LACK OF A SECOND, THEN. ALL RIGHT, AND THEN GO WITH, UM COUNCILOR MYERS AND WHAT TO DO A SUBSTITUTE MOTION TO TABLE IT UNTIL THE PETITIONER CAN COME. NOT UNTIL HE CAN COME. BUT WHAT'S THE NEXT MEETING THAT WE CAN HAVE THEM HERE? SOME OF THE 12TH. OKAY DECEMBER 12 ALRIGHT.

YOU WANT MOST TO TABLE UNTIL DECEMBER 12TH TO HEAR FROM THE PETITIONER. ALRIGHT MOTION. THE SECOND DEVICE. MARY HILL, MADAM COLLECTOR. PLEASE CALL THE ROAD. COUNCILOR BERT JONES SMITH LEAGUE LIARS COUNCIL MEMBER WESTBROOK, VICE MAYOR HILL PAST. NEXT UP IS ITEM A B A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION FOR ORDINANCE TO AMEND THE RE ADOPT CHAPTER 107 OF THE CITY CODE.

PERTAINING TO THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY ASSESSED CLINICALLY CLEAN ENERGY PROGRAM, SEE PACE.

SECOND READING, MR MORE. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING, MR MAYOR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. GOOD ALWAYS BE HERE. UH WE'RE GONNA GO NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THE SLIDES LOOK FAMILIAR AND 2019 COUNCIL VOTED TO APPROVE THE CPS PROGRAM. BASICALLY MARKET BASED FINANCIAL PRODUCT. ALLOWS FOR FUNDING OF ENERGY PROGRAMS, RENEWABLE ENERGY, WATER EFFICIENCY, FLOODING AND STORM ORDER

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FIVE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES. ELIGIBILITY IMPROVEMENTS. PLEASURE TO DO A LOT OF DIFFERENT PROGRAMS AGAIN STORMWATER MANAGEMENT AND ALSO, THEY HAVE ADDED ELECTRIC CHARGING. DURATION IT CAN GO UP TO 15 TO 30 YEARS. AND LONGER IF THE PROJECT SO IT'S SO INCLINED THE SCALE CAN BE USED TO ORGANIZE THE LOCAL MULTIJURISDICTIONAL OR STATEWIDE LEVELS. OUR GOAL IS TO USE THE STATEWIDE PLAN. CAPITALIZATION BE USED BY. BANKS BROKERS YOU SEE THERE. THERE'S ALSO LEVERAGE PUBLIC FUNDING. THAT'S NOT IN OUR REALM AND WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY. UM MULTIPLE ACTORS SEE PACE ALLOWS MULTIPLE PEOPLE, NOT ONLY ONLY THE DEVELOPER BUT THE CAPITAL PROVIDERS, THE BANKS MORTGAGE HOLDERS AND CONTRACTORS TO BE A PART OF THAT PROGRAM. AS IT WORKS, SEE PACES, VOLUNTEERING FOR ALL PARTIES INVOLVED. CAN COVER 100% OF ALL PROJECT ELIGIBLE HARD AND SOFT COSTS. LOAN FINANCING TERMS BETWEEN 15 AND 30 YEARS. IT CAN BE COMBINED WITH UTILITY, LOCAL AND FEDERAL INCENTIVE PROGRAMS. SO THIS PROGRAM COULD BE USED WITH OUR ENTERPRISE OPPORTUNITY FUND. AND OTHER PROGRAMS. THE ENERGY PROJECTS ARE PERMANENTLY AFFIXED TO THE PROPERTY. NOT THE ENTITY DEVELOPING THE PROPERTY. THE SEA PACE ASSESSMENT IS FILED WITH THE LOCAL MUNICIPALITY AS A LIEN. ON THE PROPERTY. NEXT SLIDE. IMPORTANT THE CITY IS NOT LIABLE FOR THE LOAN AMOUNT. OR SUCCESS OR FAILURE. OF ANY OTHER DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS. WE'RE NOT COMMITTING ANY CITY FUNDS OR CREDITS TO GUARANTEE THE REPAYMENT OF THE LOAN. WERE YOU LOOKING AT THIS AS BEING LEVERAGED ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVE TO SPUR DEVELOPMENT COSTS. AND HELP WITH BLIGHTED BUILDINGS. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. AGAIN SEE PACE FINANCING IS ATTACHED TO THE BUSINESS THROUGH A TAX ASSESSMENT IS NOT ATTACHED TO THE INDIVIDUAL OR THE BUSINESS OR BUSINESS ENTITY. THE BUILDING IS SOLD BEFORE THE PACE ASSESSMENT IS PAID OFF IT TRANSFERS TO THE NEW OWNER, SO THERE'S NO WAY THEY CAN TRY TO DUCK OUT. SO I THANK SIR. AGAIN THESE ARE TYPES OF EQUIPMENT ELIGIBLE AGAIN. WE WOULD ADD THE ELECTRIC CHARGING. TYPES OF BUILDING OFFICE. MULTI FAMILY, MANY OF THE THINGS THAT WILL BE DONE. THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE CITY.

BENEFITS WE'LL GET WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT JOBS, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, ALWAYS POSITIVE.

BOTTOM LINE DIRECTLY IMPACTS LOCAL BUSINESSES. ABILITY TO GET CAPITAL TO FINISH PROJECTS.

BENEFITS OF PACE FOR THE PROPERTY OWNERS. NO OUT OF POCKET COSTS LOW RATE LONG TERM ENABLES FOR POSITIVE CASH FLOW. AND WHO WAS INVOLVED AGAIN. WE TALKED ABOUT THE PROPERTY OWNER PACE LENDER. AND THE CONTRACTOR IN THE CITY PROGRAM ADMINISTRATOR NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THERE'S TWO WAYS TO DO. THE PROGRAM OPTION IS LOCALLY ADMINISTERED, WE WOULD RUN IT THROUGH AND DO ALL THE STAFF ACTIONS. OPTION B IS A THIRD PARTY ADMINISTRATOR WILL BE RECOMMENDING THAT AS THE STATE AS A STATE CONTRACT, WE WOULD USE VIRGINIA PACE. THEY WOULD DO THE ACTUAL IMPLEMENTATION. AND OUR DEPARTMENT WOULD DO THE PROJECT MANAGEMENT OVERSIGHT.

SHOULD GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. I JUST SAID THAT AGAIN. WE'RE GOING TO RECOMMEND THE THIRD PARTY WILL GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. OKAY? SO IN THE DOCUMENTATION RECEIVED, THERE WERE A NEW ORDINANCES AND TO PROGRAM DOCUMENTS. IT WAS DETERMINED THEY NEEDED TO BE REDONE. SO WE WORKED WITH THEIR ATTORNEYS AND MR WILLIAMS, MR. WILLIAMS THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK ON GETTING ALL THAT BECAUSE IT WAS A LOT OF DOCUMENTATION. WE HAD ONE CHANGE THE LAST DOCUMENT ON THE BACK OF YOUR SLIDES WAS ONE CHANGE THAT WE'D ASK IF YOU'RE GONNA APPROVE THAT TONIGHT. YOU'LL SAY, WELL, DO WE HAVE SOMEONE THAT'S GOING TO ACTUALLY USE THE PROGRAM? WE DO WE HAVE THE TAB STREET DEVELOPMENT THAT WILL BE USING THE PROGRAM TO FINISH UP THEIR PROJECT. WE'VE SEEN OTHER PROJECTS, ALSO THAT WE MAY USE IN DIFFERENT AREAS OF THE CITY, SO IT'S JUST NOT SOMETHING THAT'S USED IN DOWNTOWN WILL BE USED ELSEWHERE. WILL WE BE THE ONLY LOCALITY USING A PROGRAM? UH NO. WE'VE GOT QUITE A FEW. I'LL JUST NAME A COUPLE OF QUICK ONES. GET THE SHEET OUT. EXCUSE ME. WE GOT ALL MORAL COUNTY CHESAPEAKE. FAIRFAX COUNTY, HARRISONBURG. HENRICO HOPEWELL, LOUDON, PRINCE WILLIAM COUNTY, VIRGINIA BEACH TO NAME A FEW SO PROGRAM IS IN USE AND IS READILY AVAILABLE. AT THIS TIME MAYOR I WILL YIELD FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. MR MORE. NOW THE FLOOR IS OPEN. FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING OR

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ALRIGHT SEE, YOU KNOW, HANDS THIS PUBLIC HEARING HIS CLOTHES. NEXT WE GO TO PROBLEMS OF COUNSELOR COUNSELOR MYERS. MR MAYOR. WHERE I'M VERY HAPPY THAT THE SEA PASTE PROGRAM IS BEING LOOKED AT AGAIN TONIGHT WHERE YOU AND I BROUGHT THIS SEVERAL YEARS AGO AND SORRY THAT WE HAVE NOT HAD THE BENEFIT OF USING IT. BUT I BELIEVE THAT THERE IS A BENEFIT FOR USING IT. THIS YEAR.

HOWEVER I LIKE TO PUT THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO MOVING FORWARD AND HAVE IT SECONDED, BUT I WILL BE ABSTAINING. OKAY? I JUST NEED A SECOND. A MOVE THAT WE ADOPT. SEE PACE. PROGRAM FOR THE CITY OF PETERSBURG. MR MAYOR. YES IT WASN'T CLEAR IF THERE'S A CONFLICT THAN THE DON'T WANT TO BE THE ONE MAKING THE MOTION THEY'RE JUST CHOOSING TO ABSTAIN. SOMEONE ELSE SHOULD PROBABLY MAKE THAT MOTION. MISSING ALL RIGHT, MR MAYOR. WHERE DID YOU JUST? YEAH ALRIGHT , MOVED THAT WE ADOPT TO SEE PACE PROGRAM VICE, WHERE HE COORDINATES THE ORDINANCE. UM, AS AMENDED IN THE PACKAGE. I MOVE THAT WE APPROVED THE ORDINANCE TO A MAN TO RE ADOPT.

CHAPTER 107 OF THE CITY CALLED PERTAINING TO COMMERCIAL PROPERTY SAYS CLEAN ENERGY SEE PACE PROGRAM. OKAY? WOMAN, SMITH LEE SECOND MOTION THE SECOND. MR CLARIFY THAT HE HAD AN AMENDMENT IN THE PACKAGE, SO IT'S WITH THE AMENDMENT. OKAY? OKAY, THAT'S A MOTION. TO ADAPT WITH THE AMENDMENT, OKAY? ALL RIGHT. MADAM CLERK, YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. COUNCIL MEMBER CUSTOMER TO ABSTAIN. COUNCIL MEMBER JONES. I . REMEMBER SMITH, LEE MYERS, EPSTEIN. COUNCIL MEMBER WESTBROOK. VICE MAYOR HILL. I. I . ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MR MOORE. NEXT WHEN WE WANT TO, UM, SEE, WHICH IS A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE CONSIDERATION OF ORDINANCE TO AMEND THE RE ADAPT CHAPTER 21, INCLUDING SECTIONS, 21-1 AND 21-2 TO CHANGE THE NAME OF THE PETERSBURG AREA PUBLIC ARTS TO THE PETERSBURG ARTS COUNCIL. MR WILLIAMS. YES MR MAYOR THAT THERE WAS A REQUEST.

UM FROM THE PATRON OF THE ARTS COUNCIL ORDINANCE TO MAKE THIS AMENDMENT THAT HE HAD RECEIVED FROM THE ARTS COUNCIL JUST SIMPLY A CHANGE IN NAME TO FACILITATE THEIR OPERATION. OPEN UP THE FLOOR NOW FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING. OR MORE CONSIDERATION OF THE ORDERS TO AMEND THE RE ADAPT CHAPTER 21 21 AND 22, 21-1 AND 21-2 TO CHANGE THE NAME OF THE PETERSBURG AREA. PUBLIC ARTS TO THE PETERSBURG ARTS COUNCIL. THE NO HANDS IN THIS PUBLIC HEARING. IT'S PROBABLY HEARING IS CLOSED. NEXT WE GO ON TO COUNCILOR MYERS. YES, SIR. MR MAYOR MOVING THAT. UM. WE CONSIDER THE ORDINANCE TO AMEND AND RE ADOPT CHAPTER 21, INCLUDING SEARCHES, 21-1 AND 21 DAYS TO CHANGE THE NAME OF THE PITTSBURGH AREA OF PUBLIC ARTS TO PETERSBURG ARTS COUNCIL VICE MAYOR HILL SUCKING IN THE SECOND. MADAM CLERK, YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. MAMA COMFORT. I REMEMBER JONES SMITH LEE COUNCIL MEMBER MYERS. COUNCILOR OF THE WESTBROOK HILL, ALL RIGHT. I PASSED MR MAYOR APPROPRIATE TO, UH, NOMINATE. UM ADDITIONAL MEMBERS OF THE PETERSBURG. UH, ARTS COUNCIL AT THIS 0.14 OF YES, WE HAVE IT AT EINEM 14 8. IT'S ON THE AGENDA. SO WHEN WE GET TO THAT, THEN UNDERSTAND. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT NEXT WE GO INTO ITEM EIGHT D, WHICH IS A PUBLIC HERITAGE. CONSIDER THE ORDINANCE TO AMEND AND RE ADOPT CHAPTER TWO ARTICLE SEVEN SUBDIVISION ONE OF THE PETERSBURG CITY CODE TO INCLUDE SECTION 2-3 60 TO AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO ADMINISTER THE APPROVE AMENDMENTS TO THE PURCHASING MANUALS AND

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WESTBROOK, SECOND PROMOTION IN THE SECOND. ANY QUESTIONS OR. RIGHT TO VOTE. NO, NO, I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. SURE COUNSELOR COVER. THANK YOU. MR MAYOR. MR ALTMAN OF HOW HOW HAVE WE BEEN HANDLING THIS? SUCH AMENDMENTS UP TO THIS POINT. UH FROM WHAT I CAN TELL BASED ON THE HISTORY ON OUR PURCHASING MANUAL. IN MAYBE. 2017 18 COUNCIL APPROVED. THE PURCHASING THE PURCHASING SECTION OF THE CITY CODE, BUT SINCE THEN THERE WERE PREVIOUS CITY MANAGERS TO BE HAVE MADE ADMINISTRATIVE AMENDMENTS TO THAT CODE, SO WE JUST WANTED TO CODIFY THAT THERE'S THOSE AMENDMENTS AND MOVING FORWARD MANAGERS HAD THE AUTHORITY TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS TO THE PURCHASING. MANUAL. ADMINISTRATIVELY WITHOUT OUT HAVING COUNCIL ACTION. AND HOW BURDENSOME WOULD IT BE TO BRING THOSE AMENDMENTS BEFORE COUNCIL? YOU GO THROUGH A PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS LIKE WE DID THIS EVENING TO GO THROUGH THOSE. IN SOME INSTANCES, IT'S JUST EASIER DEPENDENT UPON WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. THE CHANGES WE'RE MAKING OR ARE NOT. UH SUBSTANTIAL TO THE OVERALL PURCHASING ORDINANCE. WE STILL HAVE TO FOLLOW THE VIRGINIA PROCUREMENT POLICY WITH REGARD TO LARGE PURCHASES. THIS WOULD JUST DEAL WITH SMALL PURCHASES UNDER AND AT THIS POINT IN TIME UNDER $200,000, WHICH IS WHERE THE THRESHOLD FOR LARGE PURCHASES AND SMALL PURCHASES IS THE DIVIDED BY THE VIRGINIA PROCUREMENT POLICY. SO ANY PURCHASES UNDER WOULD ALLOW THE AMENDMENT WOULD ALLOW ME TO GO IN AND MAKE CHANGES TO PURCHASING LEVELS SO AS OPPOSED TO $2500 IS THE MINIMUM PURCHASE WITH ONLY ONE BID. I WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO SAY, WELL, IT'S FIVE OR 10 AND MAKE THAT CHANGE ADMINISTRATIVELY TO ALLOW US TO FLEXIBILITY TO ADDRESS AND REACT TO THE BUSINESS CLIMATE AT THE TIME AS TWO YEARS, PRICES INCREASES WE HEARD FROM MR LANCE THINGS ARE GETTING MORE EXPENSIVE. IT JUST TO BRING THAT BACK TO COUNCIL REPEATEDLY, I THINK BECOMES THAT'S WHERE THE BURDEN WOULD BECOME INTO PLAY.

WE'RE CONSTANTLY HAVING BRINK TO BRING IT BACK TO REACT TO ADJUST IN PRICING THAT WE'RE SEEING INCREASED, WHEREAS THIS WOULD JUST ALLOW US ADMINISTRATIVELY TO MAKE THOSE CHANGES AUTHORIZING THE MANAGER TO MAKE THOSE CHANGES, AND THEREFORE, UH AND THEN MY RESPONSIBILITY AND I'D BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR THAT. ALL RIGHT, MR WILLIAMS. THANK YOU MAY HAVE COVERED IT, BUT JUST JUST TO SIMPLIFY THE STATE CODE SETS THE BASELINE THRESHOLD CITY COUNCIL HAS ADOPTED AN ORDINANCE THAT SETS THE LOCAL THRESHOLD. NONE OF THAT'S CHANGED. THE POLICY WAS SOMETHING THAT PRIOR MANAGERS BEFORE MS TRAUTMANN SHOULD HAVE BROUGHT TO COUNCIL BECAUSE COUNCIL ORIGINALLY ADOPTED IT, BUT THEY'VE BEEN AMENDING IT ALL THIS TIME, SO HE'S SIMPLY TRYING TO BRING IT IN LINE WITH PAST PRACTICES TO MAKE EVERYTHING ABOVE BOARD. THANK YOU, MR MAYOR MARTIN. MR ALTMAN, WHERE THE CHECKS AND BALANCES IN THIS SYSTEM IF YOU GET TO CHANGE THE PROCESS WITHOUT ANYBODY. CONCURRING WITH YOU OR DISAGREEING WITH YOUR HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONCUR OR DISAGREE. WE'LL SAY. CAN WE APPROVE PURCHASES ALL THE TIME WITHOUT BRINGING ANY OF THOSE TWO COUNSELOR IS BECAUSE IT'S WITHIN THE THRESHOLDS THAT COUNCIL IS SET OR WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS MAKING ADJUSTMENTS WITHIN WHAT WOULD BE THE SMALL

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WE'RE NOT GOING TO OPERATE OUTSIDE OF WHAT COUNCIL HAS SET AS THE PURCHASING THRESHOLD.

IT'S EVERYTHING BELOW THAT NUMBER SO STATE CODE SETS IT AT $200,000 COUNCIL HAS ADOPTED THE STATE CODE SECTION. ANYTHING BELOW 200,000. NONE OF THOSE PURCHASES COME TO COUNCIL NOW AS IT IS SO IT'S JUST OPERATING WITHIN BELOW THAT NUMBER AND HOW WE ADDRESS IT FROM A PROCUREMENT PERSPECTIVE WITH REGARD TO NUMBER OF WRITTEN QUOTES, VERBAL QUOTES, FORMAL BIDS ANYTHING OVER $200,000 ACCORDING TO THE STATE PROCUREMENT. WHAT YOU'VE ADOPTED REQUIRES FORMAL BID. SO WE WOULD GO. YOU KNOW, THAT'S THAT'S HOW WE WOULD BE OPERATING. ARE THOSE THE ONLY PROVISION THAT WHAT MIGHT BE AMENDED BY THE CITY MANAGER WITHOUT ANY REVIEW BY COUNCIL OR ANYONE ELSE. WELL, THERE'S SO THERE'S SOME MULTIPLE SECTIONS TO THE PROCUREMENT PURCHASING POLICY. UH THAT COULD BE AMENDED , BUT ALL OF IT IS STILL WITHIN KEEPING THE FRAMEWORK AND PARAMETERS IN WHICH COUNCIL IS ESTABLISHED. IT WILL BE GOING OUTSIDE OF THAT AUTHORITY. BLACK HOPE WE NEVER SEE TODAY WHEN THIS SYSTEM IS ABUSED. WE'VE HAD . UM PEOPLE IN THE UPPER ECHELONS OF THE ADMINISTRATION BEFORE YOU JOINED US. AH, WHO HAVE. LET'S JUST SAY WHOSE PERFORMANCE WAS A DISAPPOINTMENT. UNDERSTOOD AND I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT. UH, HI.

I'M GONNA TAKE A DEEP BREATH AND SAY YES, BUT. IT'S A DEEP BREATH TO HEAR THAT IF YOU WANT TO SAY NO, IT DOESN'T HURT MY FEELINGS. I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN. CERTAINLY NOTHING PERSONAL AGAINST YOU. AND I CERTAINLY DON'T TAKE IT IN THAT MANNER. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR MAYOR.

ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION IN THE SECOND. AND AT THIS TIME, CAN YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? MEMBER CARLSBERG. COUNCILMAN JONES COUNCIL MEMBER SMITH LEE, COUNSELOR MYERS COUNCIL MEMBER WESTBROOK, MAYOR HILL HIGH PAST. RIGHT. NEXT WE MOVE ON TO, UH ITEM NOW, WHICH IS THE PUBLIC

[9. Public Information Period]

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[10. Business or reports from the Mayor or other Members of City Council]

THE PUBLIC WILL ATTEND THE TOPICS. WE'RE GOING TO INCLUDE SECURITY. AND THAT WILL INCLUDE A FROM SOUP TO NUTS ON SECURITY. AND ALSO TALK ABOUT BLIGHT. AND. I HOPE THE CITY MANAGER CAN ATTEND THAT MEETING. BUT I REALIZE I'VE GOT TO GIVE YOU A PRECISE DATE BEFORE YOU CAN SAY YES. SO LET ME LET ME WORK ON THAT DETAIL. BUT MR MAYOR, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU.

COUNCILOR JONES. HELLO, EVERYONE. UM ONE OF THE START, MAN, SO WELL, LET ME START WITH THE EMPLOYEES FIRST. I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY THAT WORKED FOR THE CITY OF PETERSBURG. AND FOR PUTTING IN YOUR HARD WORK. AND DEDICATION. AND, UH, I JUST WANT TO ASK IF YOU COULD DO MORE. PLEASE DO MORE. KEEP THAT PROJECT GOT GOING IN THE CITY. AND WITH THAT BEING SAID, I WANT TO ACTUALLY SEE THE MANAGER IF YOU CAN CONSIDER TOMORROW, BEING A FOUR DAY OFFER THE EMPLOYEES VERSUS A HALF A DAY THEN ONCE YOU ANSWER THAT ALLAH FINISH WHAT I GOTTA SAY. YES, SIR. I THINK HE WOULD BE A VERY NICE GIFT AT THANKSGIVING FOR EMPLOYEES. IF THAT'S WHAT COUNSEL JUST DEEMED TO AMEND OUR CALENDAR TO ADD. TOMORROW IS A FULL DAY AS OPPOSED TO A HALF A DAY. I WOULD HAVE NO OBJECTION TO THAT. IT'S GOING TO HELP.

I WANT TO MAKE MOTION, SO I MAKE A MOTION. THAT TOMORROW WILL BE A FULL DAY FOR CITY EMPLOYEES.

TO BE OF VERSUS A HALF A DAY. COUNCILOR MYERS. MOTION IN THE SECOND MADAM CLERK, YOU PLEASE

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I MEAN, WE JUST WE JUST HAVE HOW MANY HOW MANY PAID HOLIDAYS DO YOU ALREADY HAVE? I MEAN, THIS WEEK WE YOU KNOW, BY THIS MOTION, WE'RE GONNA HAVE 34 PAID HOLIDAYS. UH, WE HAD, UH WHAT WAS IT FRIDAY WAS VETERANS DAY THAT WAS A PAID HOLIDAY. UH HUH. YEAH, I MEAN IT. I KNOW AND I'M SPEAKING TO IT, I THINK I KNOW. I KNOW IT'S GONNA PASS BECAUSE EVERYBODY LIKES TO BE GENEROUS AND EVERYBODY BE GENEROUS WITH OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY, BUT WHISPERED IN THE TAXPAYER'S MONEY HERE. YOU KNOW? AND THEN WE PUT ON OUR SANTA CLAUS HAT AND SAYING, OH, WELL, WE'RE BIG CHEESE WITH THE CITY EMPLOYEES BECAUSE WE GAVE THEM THIS. WE? WE I THINK THIS IS A BAD IDEA.

SO THANK YOU, MR MAYOR. ALRIGHT COUNSELOR. JONES YEAH, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO MY FRIEND CHARLIE RIGHT HERE. THIS IS NOT A PLANTATION. OKAY AND THESE PEOPLE DESERVE NO, DON'T TAKE IT . DON'T TAKE IT TOO HARD CHILD RIGHT INTO THIS. THAT'S NOT RACE. I MEAN PLANTATIONS IN THE CITY. RIGHT NOW. THERE'S NOBODY IS TALKING ABOUT RACE DRAMATICS. EXACTLY WHAT, CHARLIE? WELL, YOU WELL, OKAY, SINCE WE'RE GOING THERE IN ORDER TALKING ABOUT ENTITLEMENT TO ORDER IS ENTITLED POINT OF ORDER. SOMETIMES WE GOTTA GET OFF OUR HIGH HORSE AND REMIND REMIND OURSELVES WHO WE REPRESENT. IT AIN'T JUST THE MONEY. WE REPRESENT THE PEOPLE. OKAY YES. THEY ARE WORKING THEIR BUTTS OFF OUT THERE. EVERYBODY YES, WE KNOW. WE NEED WORK DONE EVEN MORE. YES WE KNOW. WE GOT PROBLEMS IN CITY HALL. WE KNOW WE GOT THAT. WE KNOW WE GOT SOME STUFF THAT'S NOT GETTING DONE SO STUFF. THEY NEED TO GET DONE SOME STUFF THAT THE CITY MANAGER GOT TO WORK ON SOME STUFF, BUT THIS IS THE HOLIDAY TIME. IT'S NOT ABOUT BEING GENEROUS. IT'S ABOUT THE LITTLE MONEY. WE PAYING THESE PEOPLE TO BE DEDICATED TO US RIGHT NOW. IT AIN'T ABOUT BEING GENEROUS. YOU GOT FAMILIES OUT THERE, MAN WHO WOULD LOVE TO BE SPENT HOME TOMORROW? THIS AIN'T JUST ABOUT BEING GENEROUS. THESE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT WE SERVED. THEY DON'T SERVE US. WE SERVE THEM.

SO BEFORE WE START WANTING HUMBOLDT AS A RACE THING, IT'S NOT A RACE THING CHARLIE AT ALL.

BUT WHEN YOU START HOLLERING ABOUT SOME PEOPLE ENTITLED AND I TAKE THAT PERSONAL BECAUSE NOBODY IS MORE ENTITLED THAN THESE PEOPLE ARE SITTING UP HERE . WE GOT THE MONEY IN OUR HANDS.

WE GOT THE RIGHTS IN OUR HANDS. WE GOT EVERYTHING IN OUR HANDS AND WE GOT THE NERVE TO SAY WHAT THEY DON'T DESERVE. IT'S NOT RIGHT. IT'S NOT FAIR. NOW MOVE FOR THESE PEOPLE TO HAVE TOMORROW OFF. ALL RIGHT. THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR, MOST OF THE OF THE SECOND ON THE FLOOR.

COUNCILMAN JOE'S AT THIS TIME, MADAM CLERK. COULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? COUNCIL MEMBER CUTHBERT? NO REMEMBER JONES? SURE. COUNCIL MEMBER SMITH LEE, I COUNSELOR. MYERS ABSOLUTELY.

COUNCIL MEMBER WESTBROOK. UH I SMEAR HE'LL LEARN BY MOTIONS PASSED AND THANK YOU. LET ME FINISH. THEY'LL BE AWARDING MEETING DECEMBER 16TH 2 IN ONE DAY PEN NOTES AND CRUELTY. THE TOP IS GONNA BE MINDSET. VIOLENCE. LETTING THEM KNOW THAT . NOBODY'S COMING TO HELP IF YOU CAN'T HELP YOURSELVES. THAT'S GONNA BE THE TOPIC IN WARD ONE AND THOSE TWO PROJECTS RIGHT THERE. TO SPEAK ON A YOUNG LADY THAT WAS TALKING ABOUT THE EMPTY TRAILERS. I'LL BE PRESENTING SOMETHING TO YOU SAID THE MANAGING TO THE COUNCIL ABOUT THESE EMPTY TRACTOR TRAILERS. ON VACANT LOTS. BECAUSE SEE IN L. A GUNS ARRIVE IN THOSE CITIES BY TRAIN AND BY THOSE VACANT TRAILERS. I SEE THEM ALL THE TIME. THEY'RE COMING PARK AND DISCONNECT AND LEAVE AND COME BACK IN A FEW DAYS WERE OVERNIGHT. THAT'S WHEN THEY GET THE CARGO OUT OF IT. SO WE GOTTA COME UP WITH A PROCESS TO MAKE SURE THE POLICE SEE THESE THINGS SITTING IDLE LIKE THAT. THEY GET TICKETED IF THEY DON'T HAVE A PERMIT, OR WHATEVER, FROM THE PROPERTY OWNER OR FROM THE CITY.

THIS IS HOW STUFF IS GETTING IN OUR CITY GUNS FITTING ON AND ALL THAT STUFF THE COME DISCONNECT.

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HIT CHARLIE AGAIN NOW. I ALREADY HIT ON YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA SHAKE HANDS AFTER THIS. ALL OF THESE ARE MY FRIENDS, WHETHER Y'ALL GUYS LIKE IT OR NOT. ALL RIGHT. Y'ALL ARE MY FRIENDS, TOO. ALRIGHT SO HAPPY HOLIDAYS. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. NEXT, WE'LL GO ONTO COUNSELOR WESTBROOK. GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY. UM STICK TO ALWAYS TRYING TO GIVE SEVEN POINTS. MY FIRST ONE. I WAS BLESSED TO REPRESENT CITY COUNCIL, UH, THIS PAST WEEK IN ATLANTA AT THE NATIONAL LEAGUE OF CITIES CONVENTION. UM ONE OF THE BIGGEST TAKEAWAYS THAT I DO JUST WANT TO PUT ON THE RECORD IS, UM, A I ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE. UM, AND UNDER THE TOPIC OF HOW CAN A I HELP PETERSBURG UM, A I WAS A VERY BIG TOPIC ALL WEEKEND AND MOST OF THE SESSIONS AS IT WAS ACTUALLY, UM, SAID THAT THIS IS WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE FOURTH REVOLUTION, THE FIRST ONE BEING 1784 WITH STEAM POWER. THE SECOND ONE BEING 1870 WITH ELECTRICITY. THE 3RD 1/4 BEING 1969 WITH INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY , AND NOW TODAY WITH ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE, SO I'VE SPOKEN QUICK WITH THEM, UH, CITY MANAGER ABOUT THIS AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL FOLLOW UP OVER AND OVER THE NEXT FEW WEEKS INTO THE NEW YEAR. BUT HOW AI CAN HELP US. I REALLY FEEL LIKE IT COULD HELP. THE CITY OF PETERSBURG GET AHEAD , ESPECIALLY WITH DATA COLLECTION. THEY TALKED ABOUT HOW AI CAN HELP WITH HOMELESSNESS, BUILDING COLLECTIONS, SOCIAL SERVICES. I MEAN THINGS ALL ACROSS THE BOARD AND CITIES ARE ALREADY USING IT.

AND, UH, I'VE SEEN, UM WITHOUT BEING TO POINT A FINGER TOO MUCH . HOW OUR EDUCATIONAL SYSTEMS HERE IN PETERSBURG, VIRGINIA STATE KIND OF HESITANT WITH GETTING ON BOARD, WHILE OTHER SCHOOLS LIKE THE VIRGINIA TEXT IN THE BAZAAR, THE WORLD AND OTHER BIG CITIES ARE USING AI TO BE MORE EFFICIENT WITH WHAT THEY'RE DOING. UM, I FEEL LIKE IF WE DON'T GET AHEAD OF THIS, OR AS WE TALKED, WE MIGHT BE IN THE PARKING LOT TRYING TO GET INTO THE STADIUM WILL NEVER GET UP TO THE PLATE TO HIT A HOME RUN. SO HOPEFULLY WE WILL START LOOKING INTO HOW AI CAN HELP THE CITY OF PETERSBURG MOVE FORWARD IN THE YEARS. UH SECONDLY, AT THE CONFERENCE, IT TALKED A LOT ABOUT PEOPLE PLUS PARTNERSHIPS, EQUAL POSSIBILITIES. AND I HOPE OF, UM, DESPITE, UM, HOW PEOPLE MIGHT FEEL ABOUT GOVERNING JUNKIN. THEY STILL GET BEHIND THE PARTNERSHIP FOR PETERSBURG AND WHAT GOVERNOR YANKING IS TRYING TO DO TO HELP PETERSBURG COME UP IN THE HEAD WITH ALL OUR NEIGHBORS AND IN THE CENTRAL REGION, UM, I WENT TO ANOTHER CONFERENCE ABOUT YOUTH AND YOUNG ADULT VIOLENCE, SAYING HOW WE COULD USE, UM, ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE BEING REFORMED BACK FROM CRIMINAL INCARCERATION TO HELP OUT TO CHANGE THINGS THE WAY THAT THE YOUTH MY VIEW VIOLENCE IN THE WAY THEY ARE FEEL HOPELESSNESS WITH THEIR CURRENT STATE. UM AS WELL AS, UH, ATTENDED A FEW SESSIONS ON HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS. UH SO AGAIN, ALL IN ALL, THIS IS THE MAIN THING. TAKEAWAY WAS, THOUGH, HOW PETERSBURG CAN GET AHEAD WITH USING AI TO MAKE THIS A BETTER CITY. UM SECOND POINT IS SURE MOST OF YOU MIGHT HAVE HEARD, UH, WITH VIRGINIA STATE MAKING HISTORY YESTERDAY BEING ANNOUNCED TO HOST THE PRESIDENTIAL GENERAL ELECTION, UM, DEBATE NEXT OCTOBER THE FIRST, UM I HOPE THAT WITH THE HELP OF MS JOANNE WILLIAMS AND EVERYBODY ELSE, AS WELL AS CHIEF CHRISTIAN AND CITY MANAGER PETERSBURG WILL BE AT THE TABLE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE PLAY A MAJOR PART WITH UM, THE WORLD, NOT JUST AMERICA BECAUSE THIS PRESIDENT PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION WILL HAVE THE EYES OF THE WORLD ON RIGHT HERE IN OUR BACKYARD AND PETERSBURG AGAIN IS THE HOME OF VIRGINIA STATE, REGARDLESS OF CHESTERFIELD. A LOT OF TIMES GETTING THE GLORY, SO I HOPE PETERSBURG PLAYS A MAJOR ROLE IN THAT PLANNING PROCESS BECAUSE AGAIN WHETHER IT'S DOWNTOWN, WHETHER IT'S THE SECURITY OF OUR RESIDENTS, WITH SO MANY PEOPLE COMING TO TOWN. AND THE WAY THAT THE NEWS MEDIA WILL BE PORTRAYING THIS AREA OVER THE COURSE OF THAT TIME. I HOPE THAT WE WILL PAY A LOT OF ATTENTION. AND I KNOW THAT COMES BACK TO YOU AS WELL. MR AKERSON, WITH THE PROGRESS INDEX BEING A PART OF THAT, UM, THIRD WOULD LIKE TO

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NOT ONLY HERE IN PETERSBURG BUT AROUND OTHER JURISDICTIONS IS THAT. AND I WON'T NAME THE STREET AND PETERSBURG. BUT THERE IS A WOMAN WHO LIVED 50 YEARS IN HER HOME. SHE'S 80 YEARS OLD.

AND THE PREVIOUS OWNER SOLD THE HOUSE. AND THE NEW OWNER HAS GIVEN HER 30 DAYS TO BE OUT. AND SHE HAS A FIXED INCOME. AND IT'S BEEN VERY HARD FOR THE FAMILY TO FIND SOMEWHERE ELSE FOR HER TO GO, AND BECAUSE SHE'S ONLY HAS 30 DAYS TO VACATE. IT ALSO COMES BACK TO WHAT MISS HOWARD CAME FORWARD TO US ABOUT THE CITY AND ITS PROCESS THROUGH ITS COLLECTIONS. WHO IS ALSO WHERE WE HAVE SENIORS BEING EVACUATED FROM THEIR HOME. 412 OR THREE MONTHS. IT LOST TAXES. AND MR CITY MANAGER, UM BROTHER APPOINTMENT AND HOPING THAT THAT YOU WILL STILL BE WORKING ON THAT PROCESS FOR US. BUT. I HAVE TO SAY THAT I CANNOT SEE HOW ANY INDIVIDUAL WHETHER YOU PURCHASED THE HOUSE AND THAT WHATEVER INVESTMENT PURPOSES THAT YOU WOULD PUT AN 80 YEAR OLD WOMAN OUT IN THE STREET. IN 30 DAYS. AND MR CITY ATTORNEY. I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN INJECT AN ORDINANCE OF THIS MATTER OR NOT, BUT AND I DON'T SEE HOW WE CAN BUT I JUST THINK IT'S THE MOST DISGUSTING THING THAT WE HAVE TO REALIZE IN THIS WORLD TODAY, SO ANYWAY. JUST WANTED YOU OUGHT TO KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON HERE. AND IF THERE'S ANY SENIOR THAT WE CAN MIGHT BE ABLE TO SUPPORT IN THIS THESE MATTERS. UM, I THINK THAT WE SHOULD THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT, COUNCILMAN SMITH LEE, OKAY? GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY. I WANT TO SEND OUT OF MY CONDOLENCES TO THE LEROY FOLKS.

FAMILY COOL SPRING WHERE I GREW UP AT HIS, UM HE AND HIS WIFE AND FAMILY WERE MENTORS TO ME AND MY SIBLINGS AND HE PASSED AWAY AND HE WAS A VETERAN, A GOOD MAN, AND HE WORKED AT THE PETERSBURG UM POST OFFICE. WE'RE GONNA MISS YOU, MR FOLKS. CONGRATULATIONS TO TERRY HILL, TEACHER OF THE YEAR FOR PETERSBURG HIGH SCHOOL. CONGRATULATIONS TO AND THANK YOU

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THANK YOU. UM THANK EVERYONE FOR ALL OF THE COMMENTS JUST WANNA COSIGN ON OR ALL OF THEM WANT TO WISH EVERYBODY HAPPY THANKSGIVING AND SAFE HOLIDAY WEEKEND COMING UP. I THINK ONE OF THE FEW THINGS THAT HASN'T BEEN SAID OR WANT TO THANK CHIEF TRAVIS CHRISTIAN AND MEN AND WOMEN OF THE PETERSBURG POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR HAVING AN OUTSTANDING CITIZENS ACADEMY. WE HAD A BANQUET DINNER. TO RECOGNIZE THOSE CITIZENS THAT CAME THROUGH. I THINK YOU HAVE ONE OF THE BIGGEST CLASSES CHIEF THAT WE'VE HAD IN SOME TIME. AND UM, IT WAS GOOD HAVING THOSE FAMILIES THERE TO TRAIN STATION WAS PACKED AND EVERYONE HAD A REALLY GOOD TIME. IT'S JUST MORE OF THAT CONTINUOUS EFFORTS THAT PETERSBURG POLICE DO HERE AND JUST PROVIDING EXCEPTIONAL SERVICE AND BEING A BEING, UH, THE TOP OF THE CLASS OR HOW POLICE WORK IS DONE HERE IS WE CAN'T THANK YOU AND YOUR STAFF ENOUGH AND ALSO WAS GIVEN OUT TURKEYS THERE AT AT ST PAUL'S

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AND LET'S KEEP, UM OFFICER FROM VIRGINIA STATE AND OUR PRAYERS AS HE CONTINUED TO RECUPERATE.

ALL RIGHT, THAT'S ALL I HAVE. SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM, WHICH IS ITEM 11, WHICH IS ITEMS

[12. Finance and Budget Report]

[13. Unfinished Business]

RIGHT? YES. CDBG BOARD. EVERYONE HAS HEARD. YEAH. SO ON YOUR HOPE. YEAH, HOLT.

THAT INDIVIDUAL. SECOND ALRIGHT PROMOTION TO SECOND. MADAM QUESTION. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

COUNCIL MEMBER CUPBOARD. AH, COUNCIL MEMBER JONES. COUNCILOR. MS SMITH V. COUNCIL MEMBER MYERS COUNCIL MEMBER WESTBROOK, VICE MAYOR HILL MAYOR PERM. ALRIGHT, COUNSELOR COVER. MR MAYOR AND COUNCIL NOMINATE. LEONARD CURRY. TO SERVE ON THE CDBG ADVISORY BOY. HIS RESUME WAS. NOT ATTACHED TO WHAT I GOT, UH, WITH MY PACKET, BUT THE. RIGHT, THE CLERK. GAVE US ALL A COPY TONIGHT. IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THIS UM. HE'S HELD A NUMBER OF RESPONSIBLE POSITIONS. AH, AND HIS WORKED. AS AN ADVISOR OR WILL START AT THE TOP. HIS REPORT ON THE NATIONAL STAFF OF YOU, YOU PR, YOU KNOW, PRESS INTERNATIONAL IN WASHINGTON. I WAS ASSIGNED TO ECONOMIC ISSUES.

INCLUDING HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, AND SO ON. UM NUMBER OF. IMPORTANT OR RESPONSIBLE POSITIONS. AND. AH, I THINK HE WOULD SERVE US WELL. AND BRING A YET ANOTHER GOOD VOICE. THE COUNCIL TO THE CDBG BOARD. AND SO I NOMINATE MR LEONARD CURRY.

THAT WAY. THERE IS. I'LL SECOND SECOND, ALL RIGHT. HMM THAT'S A MOTION FOR, UM FOR

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SHE'S IN WARD 66. YES, SECOND. MOTION. THE SECOND RIGHT, MADAM CLERK. YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

COUNCILOR MECHANICSBURG REMEMBER JONES? I REMEMBER SMITH LEE I. MYERS COUNCIL MEMBER. WESTBROOK VICE MAYOR HILL PERM CRASS. ALRIGHT UM, NEXT, UM, HOW MANY? HOW MANY SLIDES DO WE HAVE OPEN? ALRIGHT. ONE QUESTION. SO ON THIS BOARD, YOU HAVE TO HAVE ONE MEMBER FROM EACH WARD AND THEN FIVE AT LARGE. WE ALREADY HAVE ONE MEMBER FOR WARD FOUR, WARD FIVE AND WAR THREE ALREADY. WE HAVE ONE AT LARGE SEAT FOR WARD FIVE, WHICH LEAVES WARD 12. LET'S SEE. SIX AND SEVEN. YEAH, I KNOW. YEAH, I GOT YOU. I GOT YOURS. WE GOT WAR TWO ALREADY. BUT FOR COUNCIL MEMBER CUT BIRDS PERSON, MR CURRY, IT SAYS THAT HE IS IN WAR THREE SO YOU WOULD NEED TO MAKE HIM AN AT LARGE SEAT BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE A WAR THREE REPRESENTATIVES, WHICH IS MR KOFI A D. OKAY BUT WE'VE GOT AN AD. HOW MANY AT LARGE OPENINGS? DO WE HAVE FOUR? OKAY? WELL YOU CAN AMEND YOUR MOTION TO SAY TO APPOINT HIM AS AN AT LARGE SEAT. THAT'LL BE FINE. OKAY GOOD. WELL I WOULD LIKE TO AMEND BY MOTION. TO DESIGNATE LEONARD CURRY AS AN AT LARGE MEMBER OF THE CITY B G ADVISORY.

THANK YOU. AND SECOND, OKAY? THAT'S FINE. ALRIGHT AND ALL THEIR FAVOR. AH! ALL RIGHT. OKAY HE IS AT LARGE. NOW. HOW MANY DO WE BECAUSE, UM COUNCILMAN JONES NEEDS TO GET. LINE COUNSELOR.

WESTBROOK NEEDS TO GET RYAN. ALL RIGHT, SIR. OKAY TWO MORE. TWO AT LARGE CITIES COSMIC COPPER. I NOMINATE MR MARKER SQUIRES FOR AN AT LARGE SEAT. ON THE CDBG ADVISORY BOARD. HE? YEAH, HE'S PUT HIS APPLICATION IN ALL RIGHT. THE MOTION FOR, UM. UM MARCUS OMAR SQUIRES BY COUNCILOR COMFORT. THAT'S FINE. ADLAI RECEIPT, OKAY? ALL RIGHT. I GUESS THE MOTION DIES THERE FOR LACK OF A SECOND. ALL RIGHT. OKAY WELL NEXT THE NEXT MEETING IN DECEMBER THEN I KNOW COUNCILOR JONES GOING TO HAVE HIS THAT. AND WE'LL PUT IT BACK ON, OKAY? ALL RIGHT. NEXT

[14. New Business]

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MR MAYOR, NOMINATE LAUREL CHARBONNEAU. TO SERVE ON THE. HE'S VERY HAIRY ARTS COUNCIL.

HER RESUME IS ATTACHED. SHE'S DONE A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF VOLUNTEER WORK. WITH THE PETERSBURG MUSEUMS. THANKLESS LEE INVENTORY INVENTORYING THE HISTORIC ARTIFACTS THAT WE HAVE AND HAS SHOWN HER INTEREST IN AH! THE HISTORIC HISTORY OF OUR AREA. THROUGH HER. BUT REALLY TIRELESS EFFORTS. I THINK SHE WOULD. SHE WOULD MAKE A REAL CONTRIBUTION TO THIS ARTS COUNCIL. MR MAYOR. HOLD ON BEFORE YOU SAY WE DON'T HAVE A SECOND DEAL. WE MAY AND I SAY SOMETHING. I MEAN, AM I READ THIS? BEFORE ANYONE I GUESS MAKES ANY MORE NOMINATIONS . JUST BE MINDFUL, AS STATED IN SECTION 21 TO THAT, AT LEAST OUT OF THE NINE MEMBERS, THREE OF THEM HAVE TO BE PARTICIPATING ARTISTS TO MEMBERS BELONGING TO AN ART, SO CULTURAL ORGANIZATION AND TWO MEMBERS ASSOCIATED WITH DESIGN AND HISTORICAL ARCHITECTURE. SO WHEN YOU MAKE YOUR MOTIONS AND LOOK AT THE APPLICATIONS PLEASE MAKE SURE THAT THEY FALL IN LINE WITH THESE LIST OF, UM THANKS CRITERIA THAT THEY HAVE TO BE ON THE BOARD. WELL, THAT'S THAT'S A GOOD POINT AND THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT TO OUR ATTENTION, AND I WOULD LIKE TO AMEND MY MOTION. TO SAY THAT? AH A NOMINATE MS CHARBONNEAU. TO SERVE ONE OF THE OF POSITIONS RESERVED FALL. PEOPLE ASSOCIATED WITH DESIGN AND HISTORICAL ARCHITECTURE. 2ND 2ND FROM COUNCILMAN JONES. ALL RIGHT, MADAM CLERK, YOU PLEASE GO TO ROLL. COUNCILOR BECAUSE BERT, REMEMBER JONES SMITH LEE AH, COUNCIL MEMBER MYERS NO. COUNCIL MEMBER WESTBROOK. VICE MAYOR HILL. MAYOR PERM PAST. THANKS, COUNCILOR. COVER! THANK YOU. AH! NOMINATE MARTHA ATKINSON. FOUR.

THE PETER'S VERY AREA COUNCIL. AS A MEMBER ASSOCIATED WITH DESIGN AND HISTORIC ARCHITECTURE. SHE HEADED UP OUR UM, HISTORIC MUSEUMS. FOR MANY YEARS. AND IT'S QUITE KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT PETERSBURG HISTORY AND THE ARTIFACTS IN OUR AND FOR, YOU KNOW COLLECTION.

OKAY SO WE CAN'T TAKE ANY MORE NOMINATIONS. THE MEMBERS HAVE TO BE NINE CURRENTLY. FROM THOSE LAST TWO NOMINATIONS THAT COMPLETES THE NINE MEMBERS. WE ALREADY HAVE SEVEN, WHICH IS TONY CLARK, WILLIAM NICHOLSON, ALEXANDER GRAHAM, CHRISTOPHER RUSSELL, TIERRA RUSSELL.

SAMARITAN HAS WILL AND TIE ASIA WILLIAMS. UM THE COUNT WAS WRONG ON THE SHEET, BUT IT'S ONLY NINE MEMBERS BASED OFF OF THE ORDINANCE THAT WAS APPROVED, WHICH THOSE LAST TWO TRACE HYMNS AND MISS LAURA SHABAAB ABALONE MAKES NINE MEMBERS SO THAT COMPLETES THE UNDERSTAND.

WITHDRAW MY MOTION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU NEXT WEEK. MORE ON ITEM B CONSIDERATION.

ORDNANCE APPROPRIATION FOR 5085.6 L E OPERA LAW ENFORCEMENT EQUIPMENT GRANTS SECOND READING.

CATCH ME OFF GUARD. I WOULD LIKE TO BE ON THE RADIO, A DEAD AIR. MR MAYOR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.

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SHOULD WE GET FUNDING THROUGH THIS PROGRAM? LET ME KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. OKAY QUESTION FOR COUNSELOR. JONES HOW YOU DOING? THAT'S PERFECT. WHAT YOU'RE SAYING BECAUSE WE NEED THAT LIKE YESTERDAY FOR SOUTH PARK. WHERE KIDS ARE WALKING BACK AND FORTH, SO I MEAN I THINK I ACTUALLY QUESTION CAN WE DO THAT LIKE YESTERDAY, PUTTING SOME KIND OF STRIP DOWN BOTH SIDES OF THE ROAD. SO THOSE KIDS GETTING OUT THERE EARLY IN THE MORNING WALKING LATE AT NIGHT, AND NOBODY CAN SEE HIM SO HOW SOON CAN WE PUT A STRIPING GOING DOWN? BOTH SIDES OF THE

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AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK LATER AND WE CAN LOOK AT A MORE EXTENSIVE STUDY ABOUT HOW CAN WE INSTALL SIDEWALK AND THEN REALLY DELINEATE PEDESTRIAN AREA, BUT RIGHT NOW WHAT SHE'S TALKING ABOUT. THEY LOOKED AT EXISTING WHERE WE HAD EXISTING LIKE KRAUT LOAD THE LACK OF CROSSWALKS, BUT WE HAD SIDEWALKS, BUT WE DIDN'T HAVE CROSSWALKS FOR SAFE PEDESTRIAN CROSSING ADDRESSING THOSE, BUT WE HAVE. I MEAN, LET'S BE HONEST, WE'VE GOT A LIST THAT LOOKS LIKE SANTA CLAUS IS A CHRISTMAS LIST OF THINGS THAT WE NEED TO ACCOMPLISH FROM A ROAD PERSPECTIVE IN THE CITY FROM ADDITIONAL CURB AND GUTTER SIDE WALKING INSTALLATION, CROSSWALKS SIGNAL IZATION ISSUES. SO WE'VE GOT TO WORK LIKE IN WORKMANLIKE MANNER TO GET THOSE, UM, INVENTORY AND THEN PRIORITIZED AND I TALKED WITH MR WILLIAMS EARLIER THIS EVENING, WE WILL GET INTO A FIVE YEAR CAPITAL BUDGETING PROCESS WHERE WE WILL START DESIGNATING FUNDS JUST TO ADDRESS GENERAL ISSUES LIKE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. NOT A BIG PROJECT, BUT FUNDING THAT WE CAN ADDRESS SMALLER PROJECTS DURING THE YEAR WITH BECAUSE YOUR EGGS ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. THESE THINGS COME UP AND WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO REACT AND HAVE THE FUNDING TO ADDRESS IT. SO WE'LL START.

WE'LL GET WITH OUR STAFF WANTS SOUTH PARK PIECE FOR YOU AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO FROM ALMOST IMMEDIATELY. WHAT CAN WE DO TO HELP? ADDRESS THAT ISSUE MOVING FORWARD, THEN START LOOKING FOR LONG TERM SOLUTIONS. I APPRECIATE THAT MR CITY MANAGER. I JUST I WANT TO ADD TO THAT THAT IF THESE PEOPLE THESE PLACES ALREADY GOT SIDEWALKS, THEY WENT UP ON THE PEOPLE THAT DON'T YOU KNOW? SO THEY LEAST THEY GOT SOMETHING THAT CAN WALK ON. I'M JUST TRYING TO GET SOMETHING YOU KNOW TO WHERE THEY CAN WALK BEHIND THE LINE OR, YOU KNOW, GOING DOWN SOUTH PARK AND 460 DEFINITELY NEED TO BE LOOKED AT WHETHER THEY GOT SIDEWALKS TONIGHT DON'T MEAN THAT THEY DON'T HAVE PEOPLE AND KIDS ACROSS IN THESE ROADS. WALKING UP AND DOWN THESE ROADS, SO THERE ARE POTS OF MONEY THROUGH THE HEAVY DOT PROCESSES THAT WE CAN ACCESS TO ADDRESS INSTALLATION OF SIDEWALK OR SAY A LONG 416. SO WE JUST HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE'RE GOING AFTER THE RIGHT POTS OF MONEY TO HIM AND CREATING THOSE PROJECTS AND GOING AFTER THAT, AND I THINK, AND IT'S NO SLOP NOTE. WE JUST GOT TO GET IN AND BE PROACTIVE AND HOW WE'RE SEARCHING FOR NEW MONEY TO HELP US. FOR YOUR OUR MISSION AND GET THINGS MORE THINGS DONE. THANK YOU AND THANK YOU. OKAY? OKAY? WE WILL MAKE A MOTION. QUESTION. THERE WAS AN EMOTION. TO APPROVE IT. ALL RIGHT. I WANT TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL. FOR THE CENTER OF PETERSBURG SUPPORTING THE APPLICATION FOR HOW WE SAFETY IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM FUNDS FOR SAFETY INITIATIVE PROJECTS. RIGHT. VICE MAYOR HILL SECOND THE SECOND MADAM CLERK, YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. COUNCILOR BECAUSE BERT COUNCIL MEMBER JONES SMITH LEE MYERS COUNCIL

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[15. City Manager's Report]

WHAT FIVE RIGHT NOW. WE HAVE. ITEMS FOUR AND FIVE SECTION D AND E. WE WOULD ELIMINATE EVERYTHING EXCEPT FOR ITEM FIVE. IT WOULD JUST IT WOULD JUST READ SECTION A ITEM FIVE PERIOD CORRECT. GREAT, UNDERSTAND? THANK YOU. YEAH. ANY QUESTIONS ON ANY OF THE ITEMS, ANY QUESTIONS ON ANYTHING? I THINK MAYOR PARAM. YOU MAY WANT TO ADDRESS THAT. YES WITH LEGISLATORS. I JUST WANT TO JUST PUT OUT THERE FOR THE RECORD FOR EVERYONE. WE MET WITH SENATOR LAST SERIES AIRED AND SHE WILL BE CARRYING. OUR LEGISLATIVE AGENDA FOR US. AND IS SUPPORTIVE OF OUR LEGISLATIVE AGENDA. AS STATED, SO, UM SO WE LOOK FORWARD TO HER TAKING THE HAM AND CONGRATULATIONS TO HER AND LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH HER. STARTING JANUARY, 1. OKAY.

THANK YOU. I THINK WE NEED A MOTION TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE NOW MOVE ALRIGHT, COUNSELOR. WESTBROOK SECOND ALL RIGHT, MADAM CLERK. COULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? COUNCIL MEMBER EXPERT COUNCIL MEMBER JONES. UH REMEMBER SMITH LEE, COUNCIL MEMBER MYERS, COUNSELOR OF WESTBROOK HILL. IS PASSED. ALL RIGHT. MR HARMONY, ANY OTHER ITEMS UNDER THE CITY? NO OTHER

[16. Business or reports from the Clerk]

OKAY NOW REPORTS NEXT LIST ITEM. 18 ADJOURNMENT MOTION TO ADJOURN ALL THE FAVOR.

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