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RIGHT. THAT CONCLUDES OUR CLOSED SESSION MEETING. UM GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY. WE'RE READY TO START OUR JOINT MEETING WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION. GOOD EVENING TO THE PLANNING
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COMMISSION. AND GOOD EVENING TO ALL OUR GUESTS. IT IS FEBRUARY 27 2024. IT IS SIX O'CLOCK. SO AT THIS TIME, MR ALTMAN, COULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? COUNCILOR WESTBROOK. I'M I'M SORRY. COUNCILOR CUTHBERT HERE. COUNCILOR JONES, COUNCILOR SMITH LEE. COUNCILOR MYERS. COUNCILOR WESTBROOK PRESENT. VICE MAYOR HILL HERE, MAYOR PERM. HERE. ALL RIGHT. NEXT WE ROLL ON TO ITEM[2. Discussion and/or consideration]
TWO, WHICH IS DISCUSSION AND CONSIDERATION. ITEM A REVIEW AND UPDATE OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. GOOD EVENING, MR MAYOR COUNCIL. CN COMMISSION. UM CAROLINE VAN DER WITH THE BERKELEY GROUP. AND TONIGHT I AM HERE WITH MY COLLEAGUE BROOKE F. AND WE ARE HERE TO GIVE YOU ALL AN UPDATE ON THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. UPDATE UM AND THIS WILL BE THE FINAL MEETING THAT WE HAVE TOGETHER BEFORE. THE PLAN IS SCHEDULED FOR PUBLIC HEARINGS IN THE SPRING. AND SO THE PURPOSE OF THIS MEETING WILL BE TO GO OVER THE FEEDBACK THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED FROM STAFF FROM THE COMMUNITY AND FROM STATE AGENCIES DURING THE PUBLIC REVIEW PERIOD, AND THEN GET CONSENSUS FROM YOU ALL ON SOME OF THE SUGGESTED EDITS TO THE PLAN BEFORE STAFF PLACES THAT ON YOUR SCHEDULE FOR PUBLIC HEARINGS IN THE SPRING. UM, SO THIS IS OUR AGENDA FOR THE EVENING. AND YOU HAVE SEVERAL MATERIALS IN YOUR PACKET? UM, RELATED TO OUR DISCUSSION TONIGHT. OF COURSE. THE DRAFT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. UM THIS UPDATE OF THE PLAN HAS, UM ALL EDITS, UM, RELATED TO COMMENTS THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED BETWEEN DECEMBER AND FEBRUARY. 1ST UM SO ALL COMMENTS AND EDITS THAT WE RECEIVED IN THAT TIME HAVE BEEN REVIEWED AND INCORPORATED INTO THE PLAN AS APPROPRIATE. UM, YES, SIR. CAN YOU PAUSE FOR A QUICK I NEED THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO CO TO PLEASE CALL THEIR ROLE. WE CALLED THE CITY COUNCIL ROLL BEFORE WE GET TOO TOO FAR. TAMMY. GOOD EVENING. OK, OK. YOU DON'T HAVE QUORUM YET, OK? OK OK. PERFECT. PERFECT. OK, LET US KNOW. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THAT. THANK YOU. UM SO, YES, YOU HAVE THE DRAFT. COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IN YOUR PACKET. YOU ALSO HAVE A SUMMARY OF ALL THE PUBLIC FEEDBACK WE RECEIVED, UM, INCLUDING ANY COMMENTS AND SUGGESTED EDITS FROM STATE AGENCIES, SO THAT WILL BE V DOT AND DEQ IN ACCORDANCE WITH STATE CODE AND THEN THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE STAFF AT THE NATIONAL BATTLEFIELD DID REVIEW THE PLAN.UM, THAT'S NOT REQUIRED BY STATE CODE. UM, BUT THEY DID TAKE A LOOK AND PROVIDE COMMENTS. UM, AS IT RELATES TO THAT SITE. UM ATTACHMENT, C TALKS ABOUT THE DRAFT FUTURE LAND USE MAP. UM, DURING OUR LAST JOINT WORK SESSION IN NOVEMBER, THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT THE LAND USE MAP. UM AND BEING ABLE TO TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF A CLOSER LOOK AT THE ACREAGE. UM THAT IS BEING REFLECTED BY EACH OF THOSE DESIGNATIONS. AND SO IN YOUR PACKETS WE HAVE CON CONDUCTED THAT ANALYSIS. UM THAT IS IN YOUR PACKET TO REVIEW IT, AND I'LL ALSO BE GOING OVER THAT A LITTLE LATER THIS EVENING. AND THEN AT OUR LAST WORK SESSION, UM WE ALSO HAD A REQUEST FROM UM , COUNCIL TO COMPILE A LIST OF STRATEGIES THAT IMPACT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND GROWING HOUSEHOLD WEALTH OVER THE NEXT 20 YEARS. AND SO WE HAVE COMPILED A LIST OF ALL THE STRATEGIES IN THE DRAFT PLAN, UM , THAT WE SEE AS THE MOST ESSENTIAL TO DOING THAT INCREASING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND GROWING HOUSEHOLD WEALTH. UM AND THAT HAS ALSO BEEN INCLUDED FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. UM, SO WE HAD A VERY SUCCESSFUL PUBLIC REVIEW PERIOD. UM WE HAD SOME GREAT FEEDBACK AND A LOT OF DIFFERENT GROUPS OF PEOPLE INVOLVED. UM, WE HELD A PUBLIC OPEN HOUSE IN JANUARY THAT WAS OPEN TO THE WHOLE COMMUNITY TO ATTEND. UM, IT WAS ADVERTISED, AND WE HAD A GREAT TURNOUT AT THAT MEETING. WE ALSO HELD STUDENTS. SMALL GROUPS, UM, WITH HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS, UM TO, UM, TALK WITH THEM ABOUT TRANSPORTATION, FUTURE LAND USE WHAT THE DRAFT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN MIGHT MEAN TO THEM, AND THOSE WERE VERY SUCCESSFUL. WE ALSO HAD AN ONLINE SURVEY AVAILABLE, UM, FOR THOSE WHO EITHER COULD NOT ATTEND THE OPEN HOUSE BUT STILL WANTED TO PROVIDE COMMENT OR WHO DID ATTEND THE OPEN HOUSE, UM, BUT HAD ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK THEY WANTED TO PROVIDE US AFTER THE EVENING. UM, SO THAT WAS ALSO AVAILABLE. UM, OF COURSE, V. I AND DEQ DID REVIEW THE DRAFT PLAN, UM, FOR COMPLIANCE WITH STATE CODE AND THE CHESAPEAKE BAY PRESERVATION ACT. UM WE RECEIVED COMMENTS FROM THEM. UM,
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THE PLAN IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH ALL OF THE STATE CODE. RELEVANT STATE CODE MATERIAL. UM SO THAT HAS BEEN TAKEN CARE OF AND ADDRESSED THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE REVIEWED AND THEN, OF COURSE, INTERNAL REVIEW YOU ALL THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND CITY STAFF REVIEWING THE PLAN AND PROVIDING COMMENTS. SO ON YOUR SCREEN, YOU CAN SEE SOME PHOTOS FROM THE PUBLIC OPEN HOUSE ON FRIDAY, JANUARY 12TH, THE PETERSBURG AREA ART LEAGUE WAS KIND ENOUGH TO ALLOW US TO HOST THIS EVENT IN CONJUNCTION WITH FRIDAY FOR THE ARTS, AND WE DID HAVE A GREAT TURNOUT. UM, PEOPLE KIND OF CAME AND WENT THROUGHOUT THE EVENING. THERE WAS A BRIEF PRESENTATION TO TALK ABOUT THE PLAN. UM, BUT THEN ATTENDEES WERE FREE TO BROWSE THE DRAFT PLAN. BROWSE THE BOARDS, TALK TO US TALK TO STAFF AT THEIR OWN PACE. UM AND SO IT WAS GREAT TO BE ABLE TO MEET PEOPLE AND BE ABLE TO ANSWER THEIR QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PLAN. UM OVERALL, WE DID HEAR VERY POSITIVE FEEDBACK ABOUT THE PLAN. UM AND THE COMMENTS WE DID RECEIVE FROM THE COMMUNITY ARE INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET. UM, ALONG WITH AN EXPLANATION OF IF THEY HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED IN THE PLAN AND HOW THEY HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED IN THE PLAN IF THEY WERE NOT INCORPORATED IN THE PLAN. UM THERE'S ALSO AN EXPLANATION AS TO WHY, UM YOU CAN FIND THAT IN YOUR POCKET AND THERE ARE ABOUT 50 OF THOSE COMMENTS IN TOTAL. AND THEN ON YOUR SCREEN. HERE ARE SOME HIGHLIGHTS FROM OUR SMALL GROUP SESSIONS WITH, UM PETERSBURG CITY PUBLIC SCHOOL STUDENTS. WE HELD TWO OF THOSE THAT SAME DAY, AND THESE SESSIONS CONSISTED OF SOME INTERACTIVE ACTIVITIES. WE TALKED ABOUT TRANSPORTATION, TALKED ABOUT FUTURE LAND USE, UM, HELP THEM KIND OF WRAP THEIR MINDS AROUND WHAT A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS IN HERE ABOUT, UM WHAT THEY ARE HOPING FOR PETERSBURG OVER THE NEXT 20 YEARS. UM SO YOU CAN SEE ON YOUR SCREEN HERE. SOME EXAMPLES OF, UM THE STUDENTS OWN FUTURE LAND USE MAPS. UM, THEY WERE PRETTY ENGAGED. THEY HAD A LOT OF, UM PERCEPTIVE THINGS TO SAY, UM, ABOUT THINGS THEY WERE NOTICING IN PETERSBURG THINGS THEY WANTED IN PETERSBURG. AND SO IT WAS GREAT TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM. UM A COUPLE OF THE TOPICS WE TALKED ABOUT, UM, PRIORITIZING PUBLIC SAFETY, ESPECIALLY MENTAL HEALTH. I'M WANTING THINGS TO DO IN THE CITY. UM STUDENTS MENTIONED MOVIE THEATERS, ZOOS.UM, ONE STUDENT EVEN MENTIONED AN AMUSEMENT PARK. UM ALL THAT TO SAY, UM, TALKING ABOUT DIFFERENT THINGS. UM THAT YOUTH WOULD LIKE TO BE ENGAGED IN, UM BEYOND SCHOOL AND WHAT THEY MIGHT BE DOING AT HOME. AND WE ALSO HEARD A LOT ABOUT NEEDING STREET LIGHTS TO MAKE IT SAFER FOR STUDENTS TO TRAVEL AFTER DARK. UM ALSO HEARD A LOT ABOUT NEIGHBORHOODS WANTING TO BE ABLE TO WALK TO THE PARK OR TO THE STORE. UM HOUSING IN PROXIMITY TO PLACES THEY LIKE TO GO. UM A LOT OF THAT FEEDBACK ECHOED WHAT WE HAVE BEEN HEARING FROM THE COMMUNITY THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS , AND A LOT OF THAT HAS BEEN ADDRESSED IN THE PLAN. UM, SO THAT IS A GOOD SIGN THAT THE CITY IS PLANNING WELL FOR THE NEXT GENERATION. BASED ON FEEDBACK WE RECEIVED DURING THE REVIEW PERIOD. UM MOST OF THAT FEEDBACK WAS RELATIVELY MINOR. UM, BUT WE DID HEAR SOME FEEDBACK RELATED TO THE PLANS. GOAL STATEMENTS, UM, WHICH ARE MORE POLICY ORIENTED. UM WE HAVE FOUR OF THOSE THAT WE HAVE PROPOSED TO AMEND BASED ON COMMUNITY FEEDBACK, UM, TO MAKE IT MORE CLEAR ABOUT WHAT THE CITY IS PRIORITIZING AS WELL AS TO ELIMINATE, UM SOME OF THE TECHNICAL LANGUAGE WHERE POSSIBLE, MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT EASIER TO DIGEST. UNDERSTAND UM, SET THE STAGE FOR WHAT IS BEING DISCUSSED THROUGHOUT THE PLAN. SO THE FIRST OF THOSE UPDATED GOAL STATEMENTS, UM WAS FOR THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CHAPTER OF THE PLAN. CHAPTER THREE ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE OF YOUR SCREEN. YOU CAN SEE THE, UM, ORIGINAL GOAL STATEMENT THE GOAL STATEMENT THAT WAS IN THE DRAFT THAT YOU ALL SAW IN NOVEMBER AND THEN ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE SCREEN IS WHAT, UM, THE EDIT WE HAVE PROPOSED TO MAKE TO THE GOAL STATEMENT. SO THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT GOAL STATEMENT PROPOSING TO UPDATE THAT TO READ PETERSBURG WILL BUILD A THRIVING AND RESILIENT ECONOMY THAT PROMOTES QUALITY JOBS AND DIVERSE INDUSTRIES, WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT AND TOURISM AND BUSINESS OPPORTUNITIES. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS RELATED TO THE GOAL STATEMENT? OR ARE YOU ALL SATISFIED WITH THAT? AS DRAFTED? I AM GOOD WITH THE WAY IT DRAFTED ANY COMMENTS FROM MEMBERS OF COUNCIL ALRIGHT. SEE YOU. AND THEN WE GOOD.
PLEASE PROCEED. ALL RIGHT, AND THEN THE NEXT SCHOOL STATEMENT WE HAVE RELATES TO THE HOUSING AND NEIGHBORHOODS CHAPTER OF THE PLAN. YES UM, PLANNING COMMISSION. DO YOU ALL HAVE ANY COMMENTS? DO YOU HAVE A QUORUM YET? WE'RE STILL LACKING A QUORUM. SO IF I COULD INTERJECT
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THAT, I THINK THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION CAN CONVENE LACKING A QUORUM JUST MEANS YOU CAN'T TAKE ACTION. BUT YOU COULD CALL A ROLL AND YOU CAN INTERACT WITH WITH HER. UH, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO WE WE'LL DO THAT, OK? CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE. COMMISSIONER TAYLOR. VICE CHAIR, BLAND CHAIR ALEXANDER COMMISSIONER VARGO. COMMISSIONER HAIRSTON. COMMISSIONER NORMAN COMMISSIONER, IRVINE. AND COMMISSIONER EDWARDS. WE'RE HERE. COULD YOU RESTATE YOUR QUESTION, PLEASE? YES MA'AM, UM, THE GOAL STATEMENT FOR THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CHAPTER. UM THE AMENDED VERSION IS ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF YOUR SCREEN. ARE THERE ANY CONCERNS OR COMMENTS RELATED TO THAT REVISED GOAL STATEMENT, OR ARE YOU ALL HAPPY WITH THAT, AS DRAFTED? MICHAEL. OH, WE'RE GOOD. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. NEXT WE HAVE THE HOUSING AND NEIGHBORHOOD SCHOOL STATEMENT. UM, WE WANTED TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE CLEAR IN THE SCHOOL STATEMENT, UM, THAT PETERSBURG PLANS TO, UM INCREASE QUALITY OF LIFE THROUGH INVESTING IN ATTRACTIVE AND SAFE HOUSING THROUGHOUT THE CITY. UM AND THAT IT COULDN'T BE IMPLIED THAT IT WAS ONLY IN CERTAIN NEIGHBORHOODS. UM SO AMENDING THAT TO READ THAT PETERSBURG WILL BE A CITY WHERE ATTRACTIVE AND SAFE HOUSING CHOICES ARE ACCESSIBLE TO RESIDENTS OF ALL BACKGROUNDS AND ABILITIES. A RE THERE. ANY CONCERNS OR QUESTIONS FROM COUNSEL RELATED TO THE SCHOOL STATEMENT? UM COUNCILMAN WESTBROOK. UM ONE QUESTION IS THIS GOAL STATEMENT GONNA GO OUT TO THE WORLD TO SEE YES, SIR. UM, SO EVERY CHAPTER IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, IT HAS A GOAL STATEMENT AT THE BEGINNING OF THE CHAPTER. COULD YOU BACK UP ONE SLIDE? YES, SIR. UH, JUST THE ENGLISH TEACHER IN ME. WHY DO YOU HAVE THE TWO ANDS AT THE BOTTOM AND TOURISM AND BUSINESS OPPORTUNITIES? THAT CAN BE REPHRASED. UM, IT'S INTENDED TO BE THE FIRST THING, DIVERSE INDUSTRIES WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT. AND TOURISM AND BUSINESS OPPORTUNITIES. UM, IF YOU PREFER THAT BE TWEAKS TWEAKED A LITTLE BIT. WE CAN DO THAT. GRAMMATICALLY CORRECT.THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. I'M COUNCILOR JONES. HOW YOU DOING? DOING WELL, HOW ARE YOU? RIGHT, UM. I DIG EVERYTHING THAT IS WRITTEN. I JUST GOT A QUESTION WHEN WE SAY PETERSBURG WOULD BE A CITY WHERE ATTRACTIVE AND SAFE HOUSING CHORES. ACCESSIBLE. ARE WE NOT? AIMING TO MAKE ALL OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. IN HOUSING. SAFE CHOICES. SO ARE WE SAYING THERE'S GONNA BE THIS AREA OVER HERE IS SAFE. YOU CAN CHOOSE OVER HERE. BUT DON'T GO OVER THERE. I STILL SEE DIVIDE IN THIS DON'T GO DOWNTOWN GO UPTOWN . DON'T GO TO PICK AT N GO TO HERE OR WHATEVER. I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU CAN CHANGE THAT. BUT TO SEE. YOU HAVE A CHOICE TO LIVE IN A SAFE HOUSING. THERE HE IS OR NOT, THAT'S DIVIDE STILL AND THAT GOES AGAINST WHAT WE SHOULD BE AIMING FOR IN THE CITY TO MAKE ALL OF OUR HOUSING IN AREAS AND NEIGHBORHOODS SAFE. SO I WAS, UH. YES SIR. IT SOUNDS LIKE WE NEED TO ADD IN A REFERENCE TO NEIGHBORHOODS. UM SO IT COULD READ. PETERSBURG W WILL BE A CITY WHERE ATTRACTIVE AND SAFE HOUSING CHOICES. IN ALL NEIGHBORHOODS OR ATTRACTIVE AND SAFE HOUSING CHOICES. NEIGHBORHOODS UM, WE HAD HOUSING CHOICE IN ATTRACTIVE NEIGHBORHOODS INITIALLY, UM, BUT WE HEARD FEEDBACK THAT IT WAS TOO NARROW AND COULD BE IMPLIED.
YOU KNOW WHAT IS AN ATTRACTIVE NEIGHBORHOOD IS THAT ONLY SAYING THAT PETERSBURG WILL INVEST IN ONE AREA AND SO TRYING TO OPEN THAT UP A LITTLE BIT MORE? UM BUT I DO AGREE WITH YOUR COMMENT, AND WE CAN TAKE A LOOK ABOUT HOW TO SAY IN ALL NEIGHBORHOODS. YEAH, I THINK IT'S JUST THE WORD CHOICE IS, UH, WHO NOBODY GONNA CHOOSE TO LIVE IN A BAD NEIGHBORHOOD ANYWAY, AND WE DON'T WANNA CHOOSE TO EVEN HAVE A BIG NEIGHBORHOOD. THAT'S WHY WE GOT EVERYBODY. EVERYBODY ALL THE CITIZENS, POLICE FIRE, EVERYBODY WORKING TO MAKE ALL NEIGHBORHOODS. SAFE AND A GREAT CHOICE. NO MATTER WHERE YOU MOVE TO. IN PETERSBURG. IT'S A GREAT CHOICE OR THAT WE SHOULD BE AIMING FOR IT TO BE A GREAT CHOICE. AND THERE YOU GO RIGHT
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THERE. AIM FOR IT, YOU KNOW? COULD IT COULD IT BE AS SIMPLE AS SAYING PETERSBURG WILL BE A CITY WHERE ALL NEIGHBORHOODS ARE ATTRACTIVE AND SAFE AND ARE ACCESSIBLE TO RESIDENTS OF ALL BACKGROUNDS IN THE VILLAGE. I LIKE THAT. UM, WOULD YOU ALL SUPPORT LEAVING HOUSING IN THERE ? SO IT'S SAY HOUSING AND NEIGHBORHOODS SINCE THIS IS THE HOUSING ELEMENT, OK? MR ALTMAN, WOULD YOU MIND REPEATING THAT ONE MORE TIME TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE IT. UM PETERSBURG WILL BE A CITY WHERE ALL NEIGHBORHOODS ARE ATTRACTIVE AND SAFE AND ARE ACCEPTABLE ACCESSIBLE TO ALL RESIDENTS OF ALL BACKGROUNDS AND ABILITIES. SO JUST ADDING IN WHERE ALL NEIGHBORHOODS ARE ATTRACTIVE AND THEN TAKING OUT THE CHOICES. AS HOUSING CHOICES PIECE. ARE ATTRACTIVE AND SAFE.AND ARE ACCESSIBLE TO RESIDENTS OF ALL BACKGROUNDS AND. THANK YOU. NO WE DON'T WANNA KEEP THAT BACKGROUND IN IT, EITHER, BECAUSE WE PUT OF ALL BACKGROUNDS, ALL ALL TO ACCESSIBLE TO ALL RESIDENTS. ACCESSIBLE TO ALL RESIDENTS WOULD ESSENTIALLY SAY THE SAME THING. IF YOU ALL ARE OK WITH THAT. SO I. I. WELL, I MEAN, YOU LOOK A T. THE FACT THAT SOME PEOPLE WITH CERTAIN BACKGROUNDS CAN'T GET ALL JOBS, CAN THEY, YOU KNOW, SO WE WANNA TAKE THAT BACK UP. YOU KNOW, S. THERE WE GO. SO WANNA SEE. EXCUSE ME, UM, I WAS THINKING WAS THE HOUSING CHOICES WAS THAT MORE IN A LINE WITH YOU COULD CHOOSE TO LIVE IN A HOUSE. YOU COULD CHOOSE TO LIVE IN AN APARTMENT. YOU COULD CHOOSE TO LIVE IN A LOFT. IS THAT WHERE THE HOUSING CHOICES WERE WORDING CAME FROM? YES UM, THE INTENT OF THE WORD CHOICES IS TO, UM, TRY AND COMMUNICATE THAT YOU KNOW YOU CAN PICK WHERE YOU WANT TO LIVE. WHAT'S UM, ATTAINABLE TO YOU? WHAT SUITS YOUR FAMILY BEST, WHETHER THAT'S A HOUSE TOWNHOUSE APARTMENT. ANOTHER WORD. IF COUNSEL, AND YOU ALL WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT IN THERE COULD BE HOUSING TYPES. UM, BUT THAT WOULD BE ALSO, UM UP TO COUNCIL AS WELL IT MORE BECAUSE THE CHOICES DOES SEEM A LITTLE VAGUE IF YOU PUT ALL HOUSING TYPES THEN THEY REALIZE THAT IT'S THE TOWNHOUSE, THE HOUSE THE APARTMENT, THAT KIND OF THING. MM. SO COULD YOU. PETERSBURG WILL BE A CITY WHERE ALL NEIGHBORHOODS ARE ATTRACTIVE AND SAFE. WITH DIVERSE HOUSING CHOICES THAT ARE ACCESSIBLE TO ALL RESIDENTS. THAT WOULD WORK.
UM, GOING BACK TO THE REVISION WE DISCUSSED A MINUTE AGO. IT COULD READ, UM, WHERE ALL HOUSING TYPES AND NEIGHBORHOODS ARE ATTRACTIVE, SAFE AND ACCESSIBLE. THAT COULD ALSO WORK AS WELL. WHATEVER YOU ALL WOULD PREFER. OK? I WOULD. I MEAN, I WOULD SAY IF Y'ALL CAN DO AND DO SOMETHING UP AND JUST SEND IT OUT AND MAKE IT NO II. I THINK WE'RE GONNA MAKE IT EASY.
EVERYONE SAID THAT WE'RE GOOD WITH WITH, UM WITH WHAT YOU JUST SAID OK? WE'RE GONNA GO WITH WITH THE CITY MANAGER SAID. SO ONE MORE TIME JUST TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE IT. PETERSBURG WILL BE A CITY WHERE ALL HOUSING TYPES AND NEIGHBORHOODS ARE ATTRACTIVE, SAFE AND ACCESSIBLE TO ALL RESIDENTS. NEW TYPES. NO TYPES. ALL RIGHT. PETERSBURG WILL BE A CITY WHERE ALL NEIGHBORHOODS ARE ATTRACTIVE AND SAFE. WITH VERSE. HOUSING CHOICES ACCESSIBLE TO ALL RESIDENTS. AND THEN Y'ALL CAN PICK THAT APART LATER. ALRIGHT A RE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION RELATED TO THIS GOAL STATEMENT? OK, THANK YOU. THE REASON WHY WE'RE NOT SAYING TYPES IS BECAUSE WE IF WE SAY ALL HOUSING TYPES YOU GOT B. IT WAS JUST ONE THING THAT WE'VE BEEN FIGHTING AGAINST, SO WE DEFINITELY DON'T WANT THAT. TO BE CONSIDERED WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO ELIMINATE BLACK, SO THAT'S WHY WE DON'T WANT THE WORD TYPES. AND UH, YOU KNOW, SO AND KEEPING IT SHORT AND SWEET THAT IT'S GONNA BE ATTRACTIVE TO ALL RESIDENTS SAFE AND ATTRACTIVE TO ALL RESIDENTS. AND YES, UM YOU DO HAVE A GOOD POINT. THE GOAL STATEMENTS ARE ESSENTIALLY MEANT TO BE KIND OF OVERARCHING FOR EACH CHAPTER, AND THEN THE STRATEGIES IN EACH CHAPTER REALLY DRILL DOWN INTO IT, AND ARE THE ACTIONABLE ITEMS FOR YOU ALL TO UNDERTAKE IN THE FUTURE AND IN THE HOUSING CHAPTER. THERE ARE SEVERAL STRATEGIES RELATED TO BLIGHT, ABATEMENT AND REHABILITATION IN PETERSBURG, SO THAT IS ALSO ADDRESSED. ALL RIGHT. I'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO THE REVISED
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GOAL STATEMENT FOR THE ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP CHAPTER, UM, ATTEMPTING TO CAPTURE THE UM MEANING OF THE GOAL STATEMENT WHILE BEING A LITTLE BIT MORE SIMPLE.PETERSBURG WILL COMMIT TO FOSTERING RESILIENCE, COMMUNITY WELLNESS AND QUALITY OF LIFE THROUGH PROTECTING AND ENHANCING ITS NATURAL RESOURCES. I'M TRYING TO BE A LITTLE MORE SPECIFIC. SHORTEN IT, UM, ALSO NOT IMPLY THAT IT WOULD JUST BE THE RIVER AND THE CHESAPEAKE BAY WATER SHED SHED THAT IT WOULD BE ALL OF THE CITIES NATURAL RESOURCES. THAT'S GOOD. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM PLANNING COMMISSION. THERE IT IS. ZERO. ALL RIGHT. AND THEN FINALLY, JUST ONE MINOR EDIT TO THE GOAL STATEMENT FOR THE LAND USE CHAPTER, UM, MAKING SURE THAT EQUITY WAS REFLECTED IN THE SCHOOL STATEMENT, UM, BASED ON FEEDBACK, UM SO R, WRITING IT A LITTLE BIT TO READ THAT PETERSBURG WILL SUPPORT LAND USE AND DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS THAT ARE HIGH QUALITY, ENVIRONMENTALLY SUSTAINABLE AND ENHANCE ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY AND EQUITY FOR THE COMMUNITY. ANY COMMENTS, OR, UM, REVISIONS RELATED TO THIS GOAL STATEMENT.
OR ANY QUESTIONS, OKAY? WE'RE GOOD. PLANNING COMMISSION. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. SO MOVING FORWARD. UM, THOSE A RE ALL OF THE GOAL STATEMENTS THAT WE HAVE REVISED BETWEEN WHEN WE SAW YOU IN NOVEMBER AND NOW, UM, WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU ALL WERE FAMILIAR WITH THEM GOOD WITH THE CHANGES, UM, BEFORE THAT COMES TO YOU FOR PUBLIC HEARINGS. UM, SO THE DRAFT FUTURE LAND USE MAP . UM, WE HAD A, UM A LOT OF DISCUSSION AT OUR LAST WORK SESSION. THAT WAS THE PRIMARY FOCUS. UM AND SO TONIGHT WE HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AND CONTEXT ON THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP. UM, AND THEN ON THE NEXT SLIDE, I DO HAVE THAT CHART WITH THE ACREAGE ANALYSIS AND WE CAN TALK THROUGH THAT. UM AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS THERE AS WELL. UM SO A REMINDER, UM, A FUTURE LAND USE MAP IS REALLY DISPLAYING THE IDEAL PATTERN OF LAND USE AND IN PETERSBURG KIND OF SAYING, UM, IF EVERYTHING GOES RIGHT, WHAT WOULD LAND USE LOOK LIKE IN PETERSBURG? UM SO IDEAL CONCEPTUAL. IT DOES NOT REGULATE THE USE OF PRIVATE PROPERTY THAT IS THE CITY'S ZONING MAP, WHICH IS TIED TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND SO A DIFFERENT UPDATE PROCESS THAN WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THIS, UM, A FUTURE LAND USE MAP IS REALLY IMPORTANT IN SETTING THE CITY'S PAS FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT, SO BEING ABLE TO COMMUNICATE, THIS IS WHAT WE WANT TO SEE AS A CITY AND THEN IT ALSO SERVES TO GUIDE STAFF AND YOU ALL WHEN YOU ARE EVALUATING YOUR LAND USE APPLICATIONS. UM, SO THERE ARE QUITE A FEW DIFFERENT FACTORS THAT WE HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND WHEN WE DEVELOP A FUTURE LAND USE MAP. UM THE FIRST AND YOU'LL RECALL WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS AT OUR PRIOR WORK SESSION IS EXISTING LAND USE, UM , SO IMPORTANT TO PRESERVE AND CONTINUE EXISTING LAND USE PATTERNS. UM, THIS HAS A LOT OF BENEFITS FOR PETERSBURG. IT ALLOWS EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS BUSINESSES, UM, TO CONTINUE AND GROW. UM, IT PROTECTS THE CITY'S HISTORIC PROPERTIES AND STRUCTURES, AND IT ALSO SERVES LIMIT GENTRIFICATION AND DISPLACEMENT. UM, FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAD TALKED ABOUT. IT'S NOT APPROPRIATE TO DESIGNATE A CURRENT RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD FOR FUTURE INDUSTRIAL USE IN THE SAME WAY THAT IT'S PROBABLY NOT APPROPRIATE TO DESIGNATE A CURRENT INDUSTRIAL PARK FOR FUTURE RESIDENTIAL USE.
DEVELOPMENT CONSTRAINTS. UM, AND WHAT WE MEAN BY THAT IS REALLY ANY NATURAL OR MANMADE, UM, ELEMENTS THAT MIGHT PRECLUDE DEVELOPMENT SO FLOODPLAINS, STEEP SLOPES, CONSERVATION EASEMENTS, UM, PARKS, THE BATTLEFIELD CEMETERIES. THOSE ARE ALL EXAMPLES OF DEVELOPMENT CONSTRAINTS. UM THEY CANNOT BE DEVELOPED OR CAN ONLY BE DEVELOPED AT A VERY, UM LIMITED SCALE AND SO MAKING SURE THAT IS COMMUNICATED APPROPRIATELY ON YOUR LAND USE MAP. UM WATER AND SEWER INFRASTRUCTURE. UM SO ENCOURAGING A CONNECTION BETWEEN YOUR EXISTING UTILITIES AND WHAT YOU MAY HAVE PLANNED IN FUTURE DEVELOPMENT. UM TRYING TO BALANCE YOUR GROWTH STRATEGIES TO ENCOURAGE EFFICIENT SERVICE AND FACILITY DELIVERY, UM, AGAIN , TRYING TO GUIDE NEW DEVELOPMENT TO APPROPRIATE AREAS WHERE UTILITIES ARE EITHER READILY AVAILABLE. UM OR THEY THEY CAN BE EXPANDED AND THEN IN TURN, FUTURE LAND USE SHOULD CONSIDER REALISTIC AND SUSTAINABLE SERVICE GOALS. ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT GOALS. UM, WE HAVE MET A COUPLE OF TIMES WITH YOUR PLANNING AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STAFF TO DISCUSS HOW THIS MAP CAN SERVE TO ADVANCE
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YOUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT GOALS. UM AND THAT WOULD INCLUDE ANY DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS THAT HAVE RECENTLY BEEN APPROVED SINCE WE'VE STARTED WORKING ON THE COMP PLAN OR THAT ARE IN THE PIPELINE FOR THE CITY. UM, ADDITIONALLY, UM, WE'VE HEARD FROM YOU ALL ABOUT HOW YOU HAVE EXPRESSED A DESIRE TO GROW THE ECONOMY AND BOOST HOUSEHOLD WEALTH THROUGH EXPANDING YOUR EXISTING SECTORS IN HEALTH CARE AND ADVANCED MANUFACTURING, UM, AS WELL AS BOOSTING TOURISM AND PROVIDING QUALITY JOBS THROUGH A VARIETY OF AVENUES, INCLUDING THROUGH THE ENTERTAINMENT INDUSTRY. UM HOSPITALITY ORIENTED LAND USES HISTORIC TOURISM. I'M TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE CONSIDERATIONS ARE REFLECTED IN THIS MAP AND CAN HELP YOU REACH THOSE UM AND SO AGAIN, THESE DESIGNATIONS AND THEN THE PROPERTIES IN PARTICULAR WHERE COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL ARE LOCATED, UM, HOPEFULLY SERVE TO ADVANCE AND REFLECT THESE PRIORITIES. AND LAST, BUT CERTAINLY NOT LEAST COMMUNITY FEEDBACK, TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION THE FEEDBACK WE HAVE BEEN GATHERING FROM THE COMMUNITY FROM START TO FINISH UP THIS PROCESS. UM ALSO KEEPING IN MIND. UM WHAT WE'VE HEARD FROM YOU ALL. UM, WHEN WE HAD INTERVIEWS WITH YOU THIS TIME LAST YEAR, AS WELL AS OUR DISCUSSIONS, WITH STAFF AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION, TAKING ALL THAT INTO CONSIDERATION TO HAVE A MAP, THAT IS AN ACCURATE REFLECTION. UM NOT ONLY OF WHERE PETERSBURG IS NOW, UM, BUT WHAT ITS PRIORITIES AND EXPECTATIONS ARE FOR AND USE IN THE FUTURE.SO THIS TABLE SHOWS THE ANALYSIS OF THE ACREAGE FOR EACH DESIGNATION AND THE PROPOSED LAND USE MAP. I DO HAVE THE MAP ON THE FOLLOWING SLIDE. UM, JUST FOR REFERENCE IF YOU DO NEED TO GO BACK AND FORTH UM, I WANTED TO POINT OUT THE RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT AND INDUSTRIAL CATEGORIES IN PARTICULAR. SO JUST AS A REMINDER, REALLY QUICK , GENERAL INDUSTRIAL IS THE PURPLE THAT IS HEAVY INDUSTRIAL, UM SO FACTORIES, THE PHARMACEUTICAL CAMPUS, UM, REQUIRES A LARGE LAND AREA HAS SIGNIFICANT IMPACTS THAT IS MORE THE GENERAL INDUSTRIAL OOPS. AND THEN THE BLUE IS CALLED RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT. AND YOU AGAIN CAN THINK OF THAT AS A LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, UM, SO SUPPORT SERVICES FOR THE PHARMACEUTI&-PT INDUSTRIAL, SMALL SCALE WAREHOUSING. DISTRIBUTION OFFICE RESEARCH MEDICAL PARKS. ALL OF THAT WOULD FALL UNDER, UM, THIS R AND D CATEGORY AND AGAIN TRYING TO COMMUNICATE, UM, THAT THERE'S A PLACE FOR GENERAL INDUSTRIAL AND THAT IS DESIRABLE BUT ALSO, UM, HOPEFULLY OPENING NEW DOORS FOR DIFFERENT, UM, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS, UM HIGH QUALITY JOBS, DIVERSE INDUSTRIES TO COME IN AND C IN PETERSBURG APPROPRIATELY. UM SO YOU CAN SEE THAT THE ACREAGE OF THAT FIRST CATEGORY THAT RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT CATEGORY UM IS APPROXIMATELY 7% GIVE OR TAKE OF THE TOTAL CITY ACREAGE. UM WITH THAT HEAVY INDUSTRIAL FACTORIES, HEAVY MANUFACTURING BEING AROUND 13% OF THE CITY'S ACREAGE. UM, THIS IS ACTUALLY NOT REALLY CHANGING FROM WHAT YOU ALL HAVE IN YOUR CURRENT FUTURE LAND USE MAP. UM, REALLY, IT'S JUST BEING SHIFTED AROUND SOME, UM, TO MAKE SURE ONE THAT THE PROPERTY IN WHICH YOU ALL MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN, UM, DIFFERENT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROSPECTS. DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENT THAT THOSE ARE IDENTIFIED ON THE LAND USE MAP AND THEN TWO AGAIN HAVING THIS NEW RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT CATEGORY, UM, KIND OF OPENING IT A LITTLE BIT MORE BROAD, OTHER THAN TRADITIONAL LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE NUMBERS YOU ARE SEEING ON YOUR SCREEN OR IN YOUR PACKETS? ALL RIGHT.
COUNCILMAN COVER. I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE NUMBERS, BUT I WANT TO GO BACK TO THE, UH MAP ON PAGE 61. ON THE MAP YOU'VE GOT ON THE SCREEN. YES, SIR. OH, WE'VE GOT. I THINK 30% OF OUR LAND IS PRESIDENTIAL. YOU HAD A TABLE UP A MOMENT AGO THAT SHOWED 30% WAS RESIDENTIAL AND THAT'S THE LION'S SHARE OF THAT'S THE BIGGEST UM THE BIGGEST AREA. DEDICATED TO A PARTICULAR USE. UM AND. I'D LIKE . DO YOU SEE ANY? DO YOU SEE ANY POTENTIAL FOR UM MOVE. SOME OF THAT RESIDENTIAL AREA. INTO, UH. AREA THAT WOULD GENERATE MORE REVENUE FOR THE CITY. AND PUT A
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LESSER DEMAND ON MUNICIPAL SERVICES. YES SIR. SO TWO THINGS TO KEEP IN MIND. UM ONE. I KNOW THIS IS A LITTLE BIT HARD TO SEE ON YOUR SCREEN, BUT THE FAR MAJORITY OF THAT YELLOW AREA IS ALREADY DEVELOPED WITH RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. NOT ALL OF IT. UM BUT QUITE MOST OF THAT AREA DO IS ALREADY DEVELOPED OR ALREADY HAS THAT INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE TO SUPPORT RESIDENTIAL MEETING ROADS. UM, IF THERE ARE UM, AREAS OF LAND OR PROPERTIES YOU SEE ON HERE, UM, THAT ARE NOT ALREADY DEVELOPED AS RESIDENTIAL THAT YOU THINK WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO CONVERT TO EITHER INDUSTRIAL OR THAT RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT USE. UM, WE CAN CERTAINLY TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. IF THERE ARE ANY PROPERTIES THAT YOU SEE THAT IMMEDIATELY COME TO MIND. WELL, THAT'S. WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO YOU TO SUGGEST. I MEAN, I. I DON'T THINK IT'S YOU SUGGESTING THAT COUNCIL GO BLOCK BY BLOCK THROUGHOUT THE CITY? WELL II. I THOUGHT THIS WAS A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND YOU GUYS WERE THE PLANNERS. I THINK WE'RE LOOKING FOR SOME. I'M LOOKING FOR SOME DIRECTION AND SOME LEADERSHIP. UH, FOUNDED ON REALISM. AND PLANNING PRINCIPLES. YES, SIR.SO. SO ONE THING WE ONE AREA OF THE CITY WE DISCUSSED DURING THE LAST WORK SESSION WAS THE SOUTHWEST AREA OF THE CITY, UM, ALONG HALIFAX ROAD AT DEFENSE ROAD, THAT AREA AND WE HAD TALKED ABOUT HAVING MORE OF THAT AREA AS INDUSTRIAL THAT THAT WAS SOMETHING THE CITY WAS INTERESTED IN. UM THE AREAS YOU SEE THAT ARE YELLOW THAT ARE UNDEVELOPED. UM THERE ARE A COUPLE OF REASONS WHY THEY MAY NOT HAVE ALREADY BEEN PUT AS INDUSTRIAL. UM ONE OF THEM, UM AND REALLY IMPORTANT ONE IS WATER AND SEWER INFRASTRUCTURE. UM WATER AND SEWER INFRASTRUCTURE. CERTAIN INDUSTRIAL USERS MAY NEED MORE OF THAT, ESPECIALLY IF THEY'RE HEAVY INDUSTRIAL. UM, AND IF THEY'RE IN A CITY AREA OF THE CITY, UM THAT IT'S OUR UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE ARE NOT PLANS TO EXPAND THAT, OR THERE MIGHT NOT BE CAPACITY. UM, THEN, THAT MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO SUPPORT INDUSTRIAL UM, AROUND THE NATIONAL BATTLEFIELD IS A CONCERN. THERE'S FLOODPLAINS. THERE ARE CHESAPEAKE BAY ACT REGULATIONS, UM, THAT IT WOULDN'T PRECLUDE DEVELOPMENT. BUT IT WOULD BE SOMETHING REALLY IMPORTANT TO CONSIDER FOR SOMETHING LIKE AN INDUSTRIAL USE. WHAT DO YOU SEE ANY SPECIFIC AREAS THAT UM COUNCIL.
THAT YOU WOULD RECOMMEND THAT COUNSEL CONSIDER FOR CHANGING THE ZONING IN ORDER TO TILT MORE TOWARD UH, COMMERCIAL OR INDUSTRIAL. IN LESS AWAY FROM RESIDENTIAL. ONE AREA OF THAT COULD BE CHANGED IF YOU ALL DESIRE IS, UM ON THE IT'S THE LOWER LEFT HAND CORNER OF THE MAP. UM SO THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF THE CITY, UM THERE IS A YELLOW AREA THAT'S KIND OF SURROUNDED BY INDUSTRIAL UM, THERE'S A GREEN AREA. EXCUSE ME. THAT WOULD BE A FLOODPLAIN. THE REASON WHY THAT'S DESIGNATED YELLOW IS BECAUSE THEY, UM, IN OUR TO OUR UNDERSTANDING IS NOT WATER AND SEWER INFRASTRUCTURE OUT THERE. UM BUT I BELIEVE I DON'T HAVE THE CURRENT FUTURE LAND USE MAP IN FRONT OF ME. UM, STAFF WOULD NEED TO PULL THAT UP. I BELIEVE THAT YELLOW AREA IS DESIGNATED AS INDUSTRIAL CURRENTLY. AND COULD GO BACK TO PURPLE INSTEAD OF BEING PROPOSED AS YELLOW. UM, THAT WOULD BE ONE CHANGE THAT COULD MAKE SENSE. WELL, WHY IS IT YELLOW THEN AND NOT PURPLE? UM BECAUSE OF THOSE INFRASTRUCTURE CONSIDERATIONS. THE LIKELIHOOD THAT IT WOULD BE DEVELOPED IS, UM AS INDUSTRIAL OR AS RESIDENTIAL IS LOW WITHIN THE TIME FRAME OF THE PLAN.
WELL. I MEAN, THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE ASPIRATIONAL TO SOME EXTENT, ISN'T IT? I MEAN, IF WE IF WE DESIGNATED AS RESIDENTIAL. ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS NOT LIKELY. TO BE. CONVERTED TO INDUSTRIAL WHY DON'T WE. DESIGNATED INDUSTRIAL NOW. VICE MAN HERE, YOU IF I MAY, UM.
DEPENDING ON WHERE IT IS. COURSE UH, COUNCILMAN COUPLER, BUT I, I DON'T THINK WE'RE GONNA PUT INDUSTRIAL WHERE RESIDENTIAL IS IF YOU HAVE HOUSES. THINGS OF THAT NATURE. YOU KNOW, I'M
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PRETTY SURE THE RESIDENTS WON'T WANT WOULD WOULDN'T WANT INDUSTRIAL I. I THINK I UNDERSTAND WHICH WHAT YOU'RE DOING YOU TRYING TO GET THE BEST BUCK OUT OF OUR LAND, BUT WITHOUT US ACTUALLY SEEING IT, IT'S KIND OF HARD TO SAY. RIGHT NOW TO SEE YOU KNOW WHAT AREAS BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE THESE AREAS WHICH ARE RESIDENTIAL AND THEN YOU GO TRY TO PUT A FACTORY OR SOMETHING OF THAT SORT. IT MAY BRING NOISE AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. THEN WE MAY BE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, SOME RESIDENTS BEING UPSET. SO IT'S KINDA HARD TO SEE. UH, BUT I. I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TH YOU'RE I KNOW YOU WANT SOME FORWARD THINKING AND NOT BASICALLY DOING THE SAME THING THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING SO IF IT'S AN AREA THAT YOU CAN IDENTIFY. MAYBE WE CAN LOOK AT IT. LIKE, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE MADE THE, UH WHICH IS NOT OUR LAND, BUT THE LAND IS THE SOUTH CORRIDOR OF CRATER, ROE. THE SOUTHERN END OF BESIDE WALMART, THAT THE COW PATCH AREA THAT WE MADE THAT INTO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. SO I IS IT A PARTICULAR LAND THAT YOU KNOW OF THAT YOU WANT TO TRY TO LOOK AT, UH, COUNCILMAN KR OR MAXIE? BECAUSE I KNOW WE HAVE SEVERAL CITY ASSETS LIKE TIPS.THAT COULD POSSIBLY BE INDUSTRIAL. UM WE ALSO HAVE THE ROPER BROTHERS SITE. ARE WE LOOKING AT? KEEPING THOSE KINDS OF COVER IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING OR OR OR OR POSSIBLY CONVERTING SOME OF THE SITES LIKE WE HAVE, LIKE THE PEABODY SITE IN TWO SOME OF THE INDUSTRIAL OR WELL, UH, I'M LOOKING FOR MUCH MORE MASSIVE ACREAGE THAN THAT. AND YEAH. FIVE ACRES HERE AND 10 ACRES THERE. UM. THE TWO SPECIFICS, I THINK ONE IS THE AREA THAT YOU IDENTIFIED. OFFICE SQUIRREL LEVEL. THAT ON THIS MAP IS YELLOW. BUT YOU THINK AS POTENTIAL FOR BEING INDUSTRIAL NOW YELLOW. INDICATES. COUNCILMAN C CAN CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION? NOT TO BREAK YOUR THOUGHT. BUT ONE OF THOSE AREAS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS IN HIS WAR. THIS HAS A DEVELOPMENT OF RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT THAT'S GOING ON, SO I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. IS THAT IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? THEY SAID, YOU SAY OFF A SQUARE LEVEL ROAD.
INTERNATIONAL PAPER. THAT AREA. UH, THE AGRICULTURE LAND OUT THERE, RIGHT? YEAH, TO THE SECOND POINT IS A FAIR AMOUNT OF LAND THAT I THINK IS ZONED. AGRICULTURAL AND I'M WONDERING.
IT ZONED AGRICULTURAL IF WE WON'T IF WE WANT TO SEE IT. DEVELOPED. IN SUCH A WAY THAT IT'LL GENERATE MORE INCOME FOR US. IF BOTH IN THE SHORT TERM AND THE LONG TERM IN THE SHORT TERM. IF IT'S ZONED AGRICULTURAL, IT GETS A HECK OF A BREAK ON OUR REAL ESTATE TAXES. A TREMENDOUS BREAK. AND SO I WONDER WHY WE DOING SOMEBODY ELSE SUCH A BIG FAVOR.
WHEN WE COULD BE GENERATING A LOT MORE REVENUE. ZONING THAT LAND. MORE. TILT THE ZONING T MORE TOWARD COMMERCIAL AND GENERATE MORE REVENUE THROUGH THE REAL ESTATE TAX. AND GIVE THE PROPERTY OWNER A BREAK. AND HE JUST KEEPS IT FALLOW. AND AGRICULTURAL. AND IT'S NOT REALLY GENERATING ANYTHING FOR THE CITY OF PETERSBURG. UH, SO THE AGRICULTURAL DESIGNATION. I NEVER HAVE UNDERSTOOD. AND I'M NOT QUITE SURE WHERE IT ALL IS. BUT. DOES THIS PLAN? UH, IDENTIFY WHERE THE AGRICULTURALLY ZONED AREAS OF THE CITY ARE AND DOES IT MAKE ANY SUGGESTIONS AS TO CHANGES THAT COUNCIL MIGHT CONSIDER FOR THAT? FOR THOSE ZONING DESIGNATIONS. SO. AGRICULTURAL ZONING IS SEPARATE FROM THIS MAP . KEEP IN MIND THAT THIS IS THE CONCEPTUAL LAND USE MAP. AND THEN WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AG ZONING, WHETHER THAT'S DOING AWAY WITH THE DISTRICT AMENDING THE DISTRICT THAT WOULD BE THE ZONING ORDINANCE UPDATE, WHICH IS A SEPARATE PROCESS AS FAR AS THIS LAND USE, MAP GOES AND THIS PLAN UM THIS PLAN DOES NOT TALK ABOUT AGRICULTURE AS A SIGNIFICANT PART OF THE ECONOMY, NOR DOES IT PROVIDE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR GROWING IT. SO THE PLAN. THIS PLAN IS NOT FOCUSING ON AGRICULTURE. IT'S FOCUSING ON OTHER LARGER SECTORS OF THE ECONOMY. WELL, I SEE A GAP BETWEEN THE COMPREHENSIVE
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PLAN ON THE ONE HAND AND INITIATIVES TO CHANGE ZONING ON THE OTHER. IF WE GUIDED BY THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WE DON'T GET ANY GUIDANCE. SO IF WE DON'T GET ANY GUIDANCE FROM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN A RE WE SUPPOSED TO KNOW? WHAT THE REZONE AND WHAT NOT TO REZONE.SO WHEN. WHEN YOU WERE REZONING PROPERTY. UM THAT, OF COURSE, CAN BE INITIATED BY THE CITY THAT CAN ALSO BE INITIATED BY AN INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY OWNER. UM OR AN APPLICANT. THIS MAP, UM, DOES NOT HAVE TO LINE UP. PERSONAL BY PARCEL WITH THE ZONING DESIGNATIONS. THE REASON WHY IS BECAUSE THIS IS A BROAD MAP, AND IT PROVIDES GUIDANCE AS TO WHAT TYPE OF LAND USE IS ARE APPROPRIATE IN EACH AREA, BUT THEN DRILLING DOWN INTO DENSITY LOT SIZES SPECIFIC USES THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED, UM, USES THAT WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED USES. THAT WOULD BE CONDITIONALLY ALLOWED.
THE ZONING ORDINANCE IS WHERE YOU CAN DRILL DOWN. SO FOR EXAMPLE, THE BLUE AREAS ON YOUR SCREEN THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. THE PLAN IDENTIFIES, UM, SUPPORTED PRIMARY LAND USES IN THOSE AREAS AS LIGHT INDUSTRIAL MEDICAL OFFICE FACILITIES. UM OTHER OFFICE PARK SUPPORTING USES. AND SO WHEN YOU ALL AS A CITY, GO TO AMEND YOUR ZONING ORDINANCE, YOU CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THE ZONING DISTRICTS THAT WOULD LOOSELY CORRESPOND WITH THAT LAND USE DESIGNATION AND SAY BASED ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THESE ARE THE USES THAT SHOULD BE PERMITTED EITHER BY RIGHT OR CONDITIONALLY IN YOUR ZONING ORDINANCE. RIGHT. OK THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, MR ALLMAN. WHAT I WOULD I WOULD ADD THAT THE PROCESS WE'RE GOING THROUGH RIGHT NOW IS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR COUNSEL TO SAY. THIS IS WHAT WE WANT TO SEE IN OUR FUTURE LAND USE AND HAVE THAT REFLECTED ON THE MAP. SO RIGHT NOW. UH, WE'RE WORKING THROUGH A PROCESS TO SEE . SO LET'S JUST TAKE THE KIND OF THE HOLE IN THE DOUGHNUT UP HERE. WHICH IS THE LAND ACROSS FROM INTERNATIONAL PAPER. THAT WHOLE AREA THERE. CALL YOUR YARD. UM OF COUNCIL TO SAY, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO GROW OUR ECONOMY AND THIS WILL BE AN OPPORTUNITY AND THERE'S FARMLAND OUT IN THAT AREA. RIGHT NOW.
THERE ISN'T A LOT OF A LOT OF THE, UH, LIKE A SUBDIVISION. THERE'S FARMLAND THERE AND SOME SMALLER HOUSES WE WOULD ENVISION IN THE FUTURE THAT WOULD WE WANT TO HAVE THAT AS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT. THAT THIS WOULD BE THE TIME TO SAY WE WOULD AMEND AMEND THE MAP BECAUSE IT'S A DRAFT MAP TO REFLECT THAT AND THEN WE WOULD GO THROUGH THE PROCESS IN THE FUTURE. OF IF SOMEONE CAME IN AN INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY OWNER. MAKING THE REQUEST TO REZONE AND YOU GO TO YOUR COMP PLAN FOR SUPPORT OF THAT, OR YOU DO A COMPLAINT AMENDMENT AT THAT TIME TO BE ALIGN YOUR PLAN WITH THE REQUESTED REZONING. AND I THINK WE DID. DID WE DO THAT WITH? WE WERE DOING THAT WITH THE PARKING LOT. I THINK OUT THERE WHEN ONE OF OUR PROPERTIES WE HAD THE COMP PLAN AMENDMENT TO ALIGN WITH THE REQUESTED ZONING, SO THERE'S A TWO STEP PROCESS. YOU AMEND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THEN REZONE IT. SO YOU WOULD GO THROUGH THAT NOW, AND SHE'S RIGHT. UH, ONCE YOU HAVE THAT IN PLACE COUNCIL COULD INITIATE THE REZONING. COUNCIL COULD DIRECT THE PLANNING THE PLANNING COMMISSION CAN INITIATE OR THE APPLICANT SO WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY IN THE FUTURE. SHOULD COUNSEL SAY WE WANT TO DEVELOP THIS AREA. WE COULD REZONE IT. TO A SPECIFIC USE. OUTSIDE OF WHAT THE OWNER WOULD WANNA DO. YOU HAVE THAT ABILITY.
SO I THINK THIS WILL BE THE TIME FOR COUNSEL TO PROVIDE THE DIRECTION. THIS IS WHERE WE WANNA GO. SO IT'S REFLECTIVE IN OUR LAND. USE MAP AS WE MOVE FORWARD, ALL RIGHT, I'M I'M GOOD I. I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT COUNCILMAN COREY IS TALKING ABOUT THERE AND WHAT WE WANT REFLECTED IS ABOUT INTERNATIONAL PAPER BECAUSE WE HAVE AN INDUSTRIAL PARK THAT IS FILLED.
ON THAT END OF TOWN. WE NEED TO LOOK AT REZONING AND AG AS POTENTIAL. UM GENERAL INDUSTRIAL AND ALSO WHERE A FARMER IS ON WAGNER ROAD. IF YOU LOOK AT THE OTHER GREEN THERE WE HAVE GENERAL INDUSTRIAL THERE AND WE RUN OUT OF SPACE, SO WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT THAT AREA ACROSS FROM WAGNER ROAD WHERE THERE WAS AGRICULTURE TO BE CONVERTED TO AS POTENTIAL UH, GENERAL INDUSTRIAL. RIGHT COUNCIL C, IS THAT IS THAT THE EXACTLY RIGHT? I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT PART OF THE PICTURE. I THINK THE 460 EAST CORRIDOR MAY WELL BE AN IMPORTANT PART OF THE PICTURE.
ALSO EXACTLY. 460 HAS SOME PROPERTIES DESIGNATED AS, UH, RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT. WHICH IDENTIFIES THERE IN, SOME AS MIXED USE. NOW, MAYOR, I WOULD ADD, SO SOUTH ACROSS WAGNER, THE YELLOW THERE. THAT ALL BERKELEY STATE'S MANOR AND EVERYTHING SO WE'RE NOT GONNA I WOULDN'T THINK WE'D RESIGN THAT. NO, NO, NO, NO , I'M I'M I'M JUST LOOKING AT THE GREEN ON THE OTHER SIDE. UH, THE GREEN REPRESENTS THE FLOODPLAIN AREA. SO THAT'S THAT'S INCLUSIVE. SO REALLY, I
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THINK. I WOULD THINK WE WOULD PROBABLY FROM A LAND USE PERSPECTIVE. YOU YOU HAVE SOME CONSERVATION AREA BECAUSE THAT'S THE AREA YOU CAN'T DEVELOP IN. UH, BUT YOU WANNA LOOK AT I WANT TO BE IN AGREEMENT BEFORE 60 CORRIDOR, WHICH WE'VE TALKED ABOUT BECAUSE OF PHARMA AND THE POTENTIAL EXPANSION WITH SUPPLY CHAIN ALONG THAT AREA, AND THEN YOU HAVE THE PIECE OUT ON THE WESTERN, UH, SEGMENT OF THE CITY THAT WE HAVE THE INDUSTRIAL PARK THAT YOU COULD LOOK TO THE EXPANSION OF THE INDUSTRIAL PARK IN THAT AREA. WELL. MR MAYOR IF I MISS COOPER, UH, WHO'S GONNA TAKE THE INITIATIVE TO SUGGEST THESE CHANGES TO COUNSEL FOR COUNCILS CONSIDERATION? I WOULD SAY COUNCIL WOULD SAY THIS IS WHAT WE WANT. WE MAKE THE CHANGES IN THE IN THE COMES BACK TO REFLECT THAT. THE COUNCIL IS AN AGREEMENT, THE MAP CAN BE AMENDED. AND THEN IT COMES BACK WHEN THE PLANE COMES BACK FOR ADOPTION. IT'S ALREADY REFLECTIVE OF THAT. ALRIGHT COULD YOU TAKE CHARGE OF MAKING A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNSEL IN ORDER TO MAXIMIZE THE AVAILABILITY OF. UH, COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL LAND AND BRING THAT RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL FOR COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION. OTHERWISE, WE HAVE. SEVEN LAY PEOPLE UP HERE TRYING TO FIGURE THIS THING OUT, AND IT'S NOT GONNA GO ANYWHERE. I MEAN, I THINK THINK THERE'S TWO OBVIOUS AREAS WHERE IN EAST FOR GROWTH. UH, FROM AN INDUSTRIAL LIGHT INDUSTRIAL PERSPECTIVE, AND THAT'S 460 CORRIDOR. AND OUT OFF OF SCHOOL LEVEL WHERE WE HAVE CALL YOUR YARD, WHICH IS A VERY UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY ALONG THE EAST COAST. UH, FOR DEVELOPMENT IN THAT AREA, UH AND THEN YOU KNOW, BEYOND THAT WE HAVE TO BE REALLY WILLING, UH, OUTSIDE OF THE CITY TO PARTNER WITH OUR FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS IN FRENCH, GEORGE AND DINWIDDIE. WITH LOOKING A T, A REGIONAL INDUSTRIAL PARKS, IN, WHICH YOU PARTICIPATE IN BECAUSE THERE'S CERTAINLY MORE LAND IN THOSE COMMUNITIES THAT WE HAVE IN OURS TO CREATE A SITE THAT WOULD BE POTENTIALLY, UH, A MEGA SITE FOR DEVELOPMENT. SO WE CAN CERTAINLY BRING BACK A RECOMMENDATION FOR CONSIDERATION AS PART OF THE PROCESS. AND WHAT KIND OF A TIMETABLE ARE WE LOOKING AT? MR ALTMAN FOR BRINGING A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNSEL. WELL, IF WE IF WE WANNA BRING IT BACK, UH, AS AN AMENDMENT THAT THEN GIVES GUIDANCE TO UH, THE BERKELEY GROUP PLANNING STAFF, THE PLANNING COMMISSION. UH, WE CAN BRING SOMETHING BACK. UH, YOUR ACTION MEETING. WE COULD POTENTIALLY HAVE SOMETHING FOR YOUR ACTION MEETING IN MARCH TO TAKE ACTION AND THEN PROVIDE THAT DIRECTION BACK TO MAKE SURE WHAT'S THE WHAT? WHAT TIME FRAME FOR ADOPTION. SO IT IS A CURRENTLY PLANNED TO HAVE A PRETTY QUICK TURNAROUND. UM IT WOULD BE RIGHT NOW, UM, IN OUR DISCUSSIONS WITH STAFF, PLACING IT ON THE AGENDA FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION AT THEIR REGULAR MEETING IN APRIL AND PLACING IT ON THE COUNCIL AGENDA IN MAY, UM FOR COMPREHENSIVE PLANS. THERE'S A SLIGHTLY LONGER STATE CODE TIMEFRAME SINCE THE FORT NEEDS TO BE NOTIFIED. UM AND SO A IN. THE SHORT TERM WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THAT SQUIRREL LEVEL ROAD AND THEN WAGNER ROAD AND THEN KEEP IN MIND THAT YOU ALL AS CO YOU KNOW, THIS IS AN EVOLVING DOCUMENT A YEAR FROM NOW, IF YOU FIND CERTAIN PROPERTIES THAT MIGHT NEED TO BE CHANGED. YOU ALL CAN AMEND THAT AS WELL. OK, BUT THAT'S THE TIME FRAME WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR PUBLIC HEARINGS. I SO, UH, MR ALLMAN. LET'S PRETEND WE HAD A CALENDAR IN FRONT OF US. WHEN DO YOU THINK UH, STAFF CAN BRING COUNSEL A RECOMMENDATION. AS TO THE ZONING CHANGES THAT. PROPOSED ZONING CHANGES THAT WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING. SO WE NEED TO BE CLEAR. THE WE'RE DEALING WITH SO IN THERE. THAT WOULD BE WE COULD AMEND THAT HAVE A RECOMMENDATION. SO IF YOU GO INTO THE APPROVAL PROCESS. THEN ONCE THE COP PLANE IS OFF THEN WE WOULD GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF AT THE PROPERTIES. THAT WOULD OCCUR AFTER THE PLAN IS DONE. SO THAT WOULD THEN PROVIDE YOU THE SUPPORTING DOCUMENTATION. SO WHEN YOU DO YOUR, UH REQUESTS FOR REZONING. YOU ALWAYS LOOK AT THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP AS A COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLANS PROPOSED REZONING OR NOT, AND IF WE AMEND IT, THEN THE ANSWER WOULD BE, YES. AND THEN THAT HELPS SUPPORT YOUR ALRIGHT. WELL, UH. I KNOW FROM SITTING IN ON OTHER COUNCIL MEETINGS. THAT WE OFTEN TALK ABOUT IMPORTANT TOPICS. BUT IT'S JUST WORDS IN THE AIR. UH, I WONDER. CAN YOU BRING US SOMETHING? UH, AT OUR MARCH WORK SESSION. UH, PUT IN ON PAPER[00:50:06]
WHAT YOU JUST DESCRIBED UM. I THINK THIS THIS NEXT TUESDAY YOU WANNA GIVE HIM A LITTLE MORE TIME I COVER MAYBE APRIL MEETING IN MARCH. THEN THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. YES, LET'S DO THAT. I KNOW YOU'VE GOT A LOT ON YOUR PLATE, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, I. I DON'T WANT THIS IDEA TO DIE IN A MY SENSE IS THAT IF THE IDEA IS NOT COMMITTED TO PAPER. THAT YOU KNOW, AND PAPER SENTENCES THAT COUNSEL CAN READ THAT I CAN READ. UH, IT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN. WE MIGHT AS WELL NOT HAVE HAD THIS DISCUSSION. SO UH, AS PART OF THE CITY MANAGER'S REPORT AND OUR MARCH BUSINESS MEETING.WOULD YOU INCLUDE A, UH THE NARRATIVE THAT YOU HAVE? UM. DESCRIBED TO US ABOUT HOW TO MOVE THIS. CONSIDERATION FORWARD. THAT DOESN'T MEAN THE COUNCILS COULD DO IT. BUT THE IDEA WOULD BE PRESENTED TO US. SO THAT WE COULD CONSIDER WHETHER TO DO IT OR NOT. WE CAN BRING YOU A THE PRO LIKE A OUTLINE A PROCESS. THE STEPS THAT WE NEED TO BE TAKEN, AND THEN WE CAN HAVE THE AREAS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. YES, ALL OF THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. AND THE AREAS, ESPECIALLY SO IT'S NOT JUST AN ABSTRACT DISCUSSION, BUT WE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. PART ABOUT 24 SQUARE MILES. WHICH PART OF OUR 24 SQUARE MILES ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? GREAT. MR MAYOR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, MISS SARAH. GOOD EVENING MAYOR SO I JUST WANTED TO JUMP IN REAL QUICK. SO AS MARCH HAD NOTED, THIS IS THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP. SO THIS IS GONNA GUIDE OUR ZONING DECISIONS DOWN THE ROAD. AND WHAT OUR HOPE IS ONCE WE MAKE THOSE EDITS THAT WERE RECOMMENDED IN TERMS OF INCORPORATING MORE RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT AND INDUSTRIAL ONCE COUNCIL ADOPTS THIS MAP, WE WOULD MOVE TO THE NEXT STEP OF INITIATING CITY LED REZONING TO MAKE SURE OUR ZONING MATCHES THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP, SO THAT'S THE GOAL. UM, LET ME KNOW IF THERE CONCERNS FROM LEGAL. UM, ON THAT. OKAY THANK YOU. BUT THE GOAL IS THAT CITY THE CITY WOULD MOVE FORWARD WITH THESE ZONINGS TO MAKE SURE THE VISION FOR THE COMMUNITY IS REALIZED THROUGH THE ZONING COUNCILOR JONES. YES, UM. I'M GLAD YOU SAID THIS WAS A EVOLVING, UH, DOCUMENT. AND WE GOTTA APPROVE IT OR ADOPT IT. FUTURE LAND USE MAP. WE ALWAYS TALKING ABOUT DEVELOPMENT. ON THIS MAP. I DON'T SEE ANYTHING, AND I THINK IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL. TO ADD OUR WATERWAYS , WHICH IS AN IMPORTANT RESOURCE , CREEKS, STREAMS AND EVERYTHING. ALL I SEE ON HERE IS THE UPPER MAT RIVER. BUT WE KNOW WE HAVE LIEUTENANTS RUN. WE HAVE BLACKWATER SWAMP OR CREEK GOT ALL THOSE THINGS AND I'M SAYING THAT BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN SOME DEVELOPMENT AND SO I'M GOING ON RIGHT NOW. WHERE? UH, HAS BEEN APPROVED THROUGH EVERYBODY. BUT THERE'S WATER. DREAMS BEING BLOCKED AND REDIRECTED AND THINGS AND THAT'S GONNA HAVE AN EFFECT ON WHAT'S APPROVED AND WHAT'S NOT APPROVED IN ZONING. AND PLANNING. SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A MAP. WITH THOSE WATERWAYS ONLY. SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS THING WE KNOW DEVELOPMENT GOING HERE, BUT IT'S GONNA AFFECT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. WELL, WATER REDIRECTION. I DON'T LIKE REDIRECTING ANY WATER THAT'S NATURALLY THERE. YOU KNOW, SO WHEN YOU REDIRECT YOU'RE GONNA CAUSE PROBLEMS SOMEWHERE ELSE, AND THAT'S WHY WE GOT OUR FLOODING SITUATIONS NOW. THAT'S ALL I WOULD LIKE TO SEE. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. THANK YOU. UM, SO THOSE GREEN AREAS YOU SEE ON YOUR MAP WOULD ENCOMPASS WATERWAYS. UM PARTICULARLY THOSE AREAS THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED AS FEMA AS FLOOD PLAIN AREAS.
UM, BUT YES, IF IT'S HELPFUL TO YOU ALL WE CAN ADD, UM, SYMBOLOGY FOR THOSE CREEKS RUNS THAT ARE GOING THROUGH PETERSBURG, SO IT'S MORE CLEAR. MHM. YES, SIR. ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS? QUESTIONS FROM COUNSEL OR THE PLANNING COMMISSION RELATED TO THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP. WE'RE GOOD HERE. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, SO TO CLARIFY BEFORE PUBLIC HEARINGS, OUR JOB IS TO ADD WATERWAYS TO THE MAP AND THEN TAKE A LOOK AT, UM THE PROPERTIES. WE DISCUSSED ALONG SQUIRREL LEVEL ROAD AND, UM AROUND WAGNER ROAD AND THE 460 CORRIDOR FOR INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT. CORRECT. RIGHT? ALRIGHT. THIS IS OUR LAST TOPIC OF DISCUSSION FOR THE EVENING.
AND IT IS, UM, THE LIST OF CATALYST STRATEGIES. UM SO AS YOU'LL RECALL, WE DISCUSSED THE IMPLEMENTATION CHAPTER OF THE PLAN DURING OUR LAST WORK SESSION IN THIS CHAPTER INCLUDES ALL OF THE STRATEGIES IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. IT ASSIGNS THEM, UM, THE RESPONSIBLE DEPARTMENT. UM, SO WHICH DEPARTMENT AT THE CITY WOULD BE PRIMARILY RESPONSIBLE FOR
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LEADING EACH OF THOSE UPDATES IT IDENT. IS UM, THE TIME FRAME. SO IDENTIFYING THE SPECIFIC YEAR UM AS TO, UM WHEN THE STRATEGY SHOULD IDEALLY BE CON INCLUDED ANY ADDITIONAL RESOURCES THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO THE CITY? UM, WHETHER THAT IS, UM, INFORMATION FROM STATE CODE, WHETHER THAT IS TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE FROM V DOT DEQ, THE P DC, ANOTHER AGENCY THAT CAN ASSIST THE CITY AND THEN ALSO IDENTIFIES GENERALLY WHETHER IT WILL BE LOW COST, UM, MEDIUM COST OR VERY COSTLY TO THE CITY. UM, SO OUT OF THE 200 PLUS STRATEGIES IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WE HAVE WORKED WITH, UM PLANNING AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STAFF TO IDENTIFY 15 OF THEM THAT WILL HAVE SIGNIFICANT IMPACTS ON THE CITY. UM, SO OF COURSE, ALL OF THE STRATEGIES IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ARE IMPORTANT . THEY ALL SHOULD BE PURSUED, UM, TO HELP PETERSBURG REACH ITS GOALS. UM, BUT SEEING THESE AS THE STRATEGIES THAT ARE THE MOST LIKELY TO CAUSE RIPPLE EFFECTS OF CHANGE IN PROGRESS, AND MAY ALSO POTENTIALLY IMPACT THE ABILITY OF OTHER STRATEGIES TO BE IMPLEMENTED. UM, SO AGAIN, THEY MAY TOUCH ON DIFFERENT TOPICS THEY MAY BE IMPLEMENTED AT DIFFERENT TIMES AT DIFFERENT SCALES. UM BUT REALLY SEEING THESE AS REALLY IMPORTANT FOR THE CITY TO PAY CLOSE ATTENTION TO OVER THE NEXT 5 1015 YEARS. AND WE DID ALSO HAVE, UM, A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS AT THE PUBLIC OPEN HOUSE AS WELL. UM, AND DID HEAR SUPPORT FROM THE COMMUNITY. UM, ABOUT THIS LIST OF STRATEGIES. UM, SO I'VE GOT TWO SLIDES WITH THE STRATEGIES.THESE ARE THE FIRST HALF OF THE STRATEGY IS, UM, THE NEXT HALF IS ON THE NEXT SLIDE. BUT AS YOU CAN SEE ON YOUR SCREEN IDENTIFYING, UM, STRATEGIES RELATED TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, THE POOR CREEK AREA. UM BLIGHT ABATEMENT, UM, HOUSING, AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE. UM, PARKS, MAINTENANCE. UM DEVELOPING A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PLAN AND THEN IMPLEMENTING THE CITYWIDE SALARY STUDY UPON COMPLETION. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ABOUT THE STRATEGY AS YOU ARE SEEING, UM, BEFORE YOU, COUNCILOR WHAT? WHAT IS 4.2 0.1 MEAN? 4.2 SO MISSING MIDDLE IS A TERM THAT IS USED TO REFER TO KIND OF THE IN BETWEEN BETWEEN JUST YOUR SINGLE FAMILY STAND ALONE HOMES AND APARTMENT COMPLEXES. UM, SO HOUSING LIKE TOWNHOUSES, DUPLEXES, PATIO HOMES. UM ALL OF THAT BEING REALLY BENEFICIAL HOUSING FOR THE CITY. UM ATTRACTING, UM NEW RESIDENTS CAN SERVE CURRENT RESIDENTS AND AMENDING YOUR ZONING ORDINANCE TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS PROPERLY SUPPORTED AND PERMITTED IN APPROPRIATE ZONING DISTRICTS. UM, WHEN IT SAYS CREATE INCENTIVES THAT IS NOT NECESSARILY FINANCIAL. IT COULD MEAN UM IT COULD MEAN AND THIS WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT YOU ALL DECIDE ON. WHEN YOU UPDATE YOUR ZONING ORDINANCE, IT COULD MEAN EXPEDITED REVIEW, IT COULD MEAN REDUCED PARKING REQUIREMENTS. UM IT CAN MEAN UM SOME OTHER ADJUSTMENT TO FLOOR AREA RATIO. BUT ESSENTIALLY WHAT THIS IS SAYING, IS UPDATE YOUR CITY CODE TO SUPPORT DIFFERENT TYPES OF HOUSING IN APPROPRIATE AREAS. OTHER THAN JUST SINGLE FAMILY AND APARTMENTS. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. OK, COUNCILMAN JONES. UH I'M GOING TO THE DIRECTOR'S ATTENTION TO 7.1 0.6. UH, WHEN YOU SAY IMPLEMENT THE FINDINGS OF THE CITYWIDE SALARY STUDY UPON IS COMPLETION TO IMPROVE ATTRACTION AND RETENTION OF ADDITIONAL FIRST RESPONDERS AND LAW ENFORCEMENT PERSONNEL. THAT'S GREAT. BUT WE'RE NOT JUST SHORT IN THOSE TWO AREAS. AND THEN WE'RE GONNA DO RETENTION. OF ANYBODY SHOULD BE ALL EMPLOYEES.
SOCIAL SERVICES. I KNOW WE DON'T HAVE CONTROL OVER OUR TEACHERS, BUT WE NEED TRANSIT. PUBLIC WORKS. WE NEED TO RETAIN ALL OF THEM. YOU KNOW, UH SO JUST WE I. I GREW I. I WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE. I THINK THE SECTION THOUGH THAT'S REFERENCED TO SEVEN IS THE PUBLIC SAFETY SECTION OF THE OF THE UPDATE IF I'M IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, CORRECT? YES, SIR. THIS SPECIFIC STRATEGY IS SPECIFIC TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY ELEMENT OF THE PLAN, SO CERTAINLY THAT WOULD BE A PRIORITY FOR THE WHOLE CITY BUT CALLING IT OUT FOR PUBLIC SAFETY IN PARTICULAR. SO THE CITYWIDE SALARY STUDY IS JUST FOR PUBLIC SAFETY. IS THAT WHAT WE'RE SAYING? WE ARE DOING.
WE'RE IN THE MIDST OF DOING OUR PLAN. RIGHT NOW FOR ALL DEPARTMENTS, ALL CITY OPERATIONS. BUT THE PORTION OF THE CAPITAL. SEVEN. THAT IS THE PUBLIC SAFETY CHAPTER. A PART OF THE GOAL OF PUBLIC SAFETY CHAPTER WAS TO HELP ATTRACT. PUBLIC SAFETY WORK, NOT SAYING THAT WE SHOULDN'T DO IT FOR ALL OF THEM. IT'S JUST THAT WAS THE PUBLIC SAFETY THAT WAS ONE OF ONE OF STRATEGY TO GET AND RETAIN. ALRIGHT, SO, SO THAT BRINGS UP SOME REALLY, REALLY
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INTERESTING BECAUSE THIS IS GONNA TAKE SOME TIME WHILE WE'RE DOING THIS PUBLIC SAFETY IS A VERY VITAL THING TO OUR COMMUNITY. FIRE AND POLICE. SO MY QUESTION IS WELL, WE GOTTA WAIT. TO GIVE THEM A RAISE. THERE ARE WE'RE NOT SO WE'RE STARTING WITH THAT PROCESS HAS STARTED. THERE'S GONNA BE A KICKOFF MEETING WITH, UM, ATTACK A TOWN HALL FOR CITY EMPLOYEES IN THIS ROOM IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS, AND THEN WE'LL GET THAT PLAN COMPLETED. PROBABLY UNFORTUNATELY FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, PROBABLY AFTER THE BUDGETS ADOPTED, BUT WE'LL BEGIN TO IMPLEMENT IT AND HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH COUNSEL IMMEDIATELY ABOUT TRYING TO IMPLEMENT THE PLAN IN A PROVIDE RAISES AND HOW WE WOULD DO THAT AND BASED ON HOW MUCH MONEY WE HAVE IN THE BUDGET AVAILABLE, SO THIS IS JUST SAYING AS A STRATEGY LONG TERM TO RETAIN AND IN PUBLIC ISN'T WE'RE NOT GONNA WAIT ON THIS TO BE ADOPTED. WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH THE SALARY STUDY NOW. PERIOD SO AND OUR BENEFITS THAT'S WHAT I WAS ABOUT TO ASK YOU JUST GONNA INCLUDE BENEFITS. AS WELL. YES, SIR. ABSOLUTELY BECAUSE HEALTH INSURANCE COSTS BECAUSE I DON'T SEE BENEFITS AT ANY. I'M JUST LIKE I GOTTA SEE IT IN ORDER FOR IT TO KNOW IT'S THERE. WE CAN HOLD SOMEBODY ACCOUNTABLE THAT RIGHT NOW. SO LIKE A. THANK YOU. AND JUST TO CLARIFY AGAIN, THESE ARE UM THAT'S STRATEGY IN PARTICULAR. WE WERE JUST DISCUSSING DISCUSSING EXCUSE ME IS NOT THE ONLY STRATEGY IN THE PLAN THAT ADDRESSES ATTRACTION, RETENTION OF PUBLIC SAFETY PERSONNEL AND BUILDING A SUSTAINABLE STAFF. BUT THIS IS JUST THE ONE WE'VE IDENTIFIED AS A REALLY SIGNIFICANT FIRST STEP AND ONE THAT IS GOING TO BE, UM, AN IMMEDIATE ACTION ITEM FOR THE CITY. AND THE SAME GOES FOR ALL OF THE STRATEGIES. YOU SEE, THERE ARE OTHER STRATEGIES RELATED TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, LIGHT ABATEMENT, AMENDING THE ORDINANCE, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PLANNING. UM THESE ARE JUST THE ONES THAT WE HAVE CALLED OUT AS ONES TO PAY PARTICULAR ATTENTION TO AS THE PLAN IS IMPLEMENTED OVER TIME. A RE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THESE STRATEGIES? WE ALSO HAVE THESE STRATEGIES THAT WE HAVE INCLUDED IN THE LIST SO YOU CAN SEE, UM, ADDRESSING SUBSTANCE ABUSE AND MENTAL HEALTH THROUGH PARTNERSHIPS AND PROGRAMS. UM IMPACTING A FLOOD PROTECTION POLICIES AND EARNING DISCOUNTS ON FLOOD INSURANCE PREMIUMS. UM, REPAIRING BRIDGES AND CULVERTS, UM, COMPLETING A REPAVING SCHEDULE FOR PUBLIC WORKS, UM, AGAIN, AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE THAT RELATES TO THE STRATEGY YOU SAW ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDE, AND THEN, UM, TAKING A LOOK AT IMPACT AND CONNECTION FEES. A RE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS REGARDING THIS SET OF STRATEGIES, COUNCILMAN JONES 10.1 0.3. UM. A MAN THE ZONING ORDINANCE TO ALLOW FOR A GREATER VARIETY OF RESIDENTIAL TYPES, INCLUDING ACCESSORY DWELLINGS AND LIVE SLASH WORK UNITS IN RESIDENTIAL AND MIXED USE. DISTRICT. WHAT IS AN ACCESSORY DWELLING. AN ACCESSORY DWELLING IS, UM, A LIVING SPACE THAT IS KIND OF SECONDARY TO THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE ON THE PROPERTY. NO SIR. SO LET'S SAY A REALLY GOOD EXAMPLE OF THIS WOULD BE LIKE AN IN-LAW SUITE. LET'S SAY YOUR FAMILY IS LIVING IN THE HOUSE. AND THEN, UM, YOU HAVE YOUR GRANDMOTHER YOU'RE TAKING CARE OF, AND SHE CAN LIVE IN HER OWN LIVING SPACE ON THE SAME PROPERTY. WHETHER THAT'S IN A BASEMENT ATTACHED TO THE HOUSE OR A SEPARATE SMALLER STRUCTURE ON THE SAME LOT. SO NOT LIKE A SHARED WHERE PEOPLE CAN TURN INTO AAA DWELLING FOR SOMEBODY TO LIVE IN. IT WAS LIKE A POOL HOUSE IS ON YOUR YARD IN YOUR YARD. SOMETHING LIKE THAT? YES UM, SO THE IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE, YOU COULD PUT DIFFERENT RESTRICTIONS ON RENTING THOSE OUT. UM FOR EXAMPLE, UM, MAYBE SHORT TERM RENTALS COMES TO MIND MAKING SURE THAT THOSE ARE ONLY REALLY INTENDED TO BE USED. AS YOU KNOW, YOU'RE RENTING THEM OUT TO A FAMILY MEMBER. YOU'RE TAKING CARE OF A FAMILY MEMBER. THAT'S LIVING THEM. UM, BUT IT'S A SMALLER STRUCTURE ON THE SAME PROPERTY. AND THE REASON WHY I'M ASKING IS BECAUSE YOU GOT A LOT OF RENTAL PROPERTIES WITH THESE SO CALLED CESSOR DWELLINGS. THEY DON'T HAVE AN ADDRESS. EMS COMPANY RESPOND TO YOUR MAIN ADDRESS. THEY DON'T KNOW. IT DOESN'T A DWELLING BACK THERE.NUMBER ONE OR THE POLICE DON'T WON'T KNOW IT. UM FIRE DEPARTMENT WON'T EVEN KNOW IT, YOU KNOW? SO HOW IS THAT GONNA TIE INTO OUR PUBLIC SAFETY? AS FAR AS ADDRESS SO WHEN SOMEONE LET AND LET'S JUST CHOOSE A GARAGE APARTMENT AS AN EXAMPLE. IT'S LET'S SAY THAT THAT GARAGE UPPER PART CURRENTLY IS VACANT. SO SOMEONE WOULD NEED TO GO THROUGH THE PERMITTING PROCESS
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TO CONVERT THAT UPPER AREA GET ALL THE PROPER PERMITS. AND AT THAT POINT IN TIME, YOU MAY ASSIGN A 1101 B ADDRESS RIGHT TO IT. BUT WHAT IF THEY DON'T GO THROUGH THAT PERMITTING ADDRESS? BECAUSE YOU GOT THAT GOING ON RIGHT NOW? AND SO THOSE THINGS ARE THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING IN THE COMMUNITY AND HAPPEN IN A LOT OF COMMUNITIES. PEOPLE DO A LOT OF SATURDAY AND SUNDAY WORK THAT WE'RE UNAWARE OF, AND THEY SKIRT IT. SO WHEN WE FIND THAT OUT, AND LET'S SAY WE IDENTIFY THAT MR WILLIAMS HERE IS CONVERTED HIS GARAGE TO AN IN-LAW SUITE FOR HIS MOTHER IN LAW, AND HE DIDN'T DO THAT WITHOUT. THAT'S WHEN WE ISSUE A NOTICE OF VIOLATION ZONING VIOLATION AND START THE PROCESS WITH MR UH WILLIAMS TO EITHER. IF IT'S ALLOWED TO MAKE SURE HE GOES ALL THE INSPECTIONS. AND HE MAY HAVE TO GET AN ENGINEER OUT THERE TO VERIFY EVERYTHING IS CORRECT. OR WE END UP IN COURT WITH MR WILLIAMS TO SAY IT'S A VIOLATION OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE, AND HE HAS TO UNDO ALL THE WORK THAT HE DID WITHOUT A PROPER PERMIT AND PROPER AUTHORITY. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. IT BEING A HYPOTHETICAL ENTIRELY. OF COURSE, I DO NOT HAVE AN IN LAW. ALL RIGHT. COUNCILOR COVER MY. ANTENNA STARTS TO QUIBBLE WHEN I READ 10.1 0.3 AND TALKING ABOUT THESE, UH. ACCESSORY DWELLINGS. YOU MAKE IT SOUND SO NICE AND WARM AND FUZZY. YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY WANTS A FAMILY MEMBER TO HAVE, UH TO LIVE NEARBY AND BE PART OF THE FAMILY UNIT. UH BUT THE PROBLEM I HAVE IN WARD FOUR IS THAT I GOT SLUM LORDS THAT ARE OVERRUNNING FOR FOUR. AND I CAN SEE THEM TAKING FULL ADVANTAGE OF THIS ACCESSORY.DWELLING UNIT. AND NOW I'VE GOT TWICE AS MANY PROBLEMS AS I HAD TO BEGIN WITH. THIS IS A CONTROVERSIAL TOPIC. I'VE READ ABOUT IT IN THE NEWSPAPER. IT'S CONTROVERSIAL IN THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY. AND I'M NOT HAPPY WITH SIGNING ON TO THE CONCEPT. OF ACCESSORY DWELLINGS. UH, I. I DON'T LIKE 10.1 0.3, MAYBE AT A FUTURE TIME WHEN WE SEE HOW OTHER JURISDICTIONS DEVELOP THAT CONCEPT. BUT I'M CERTAINLY NOT READY TO SIGN ON TO 10.1 0.3 AND THEN HAVE SOME SLUMLORD. COME AND TELL ME HE'S ENTITLED TO PUT A DOG HOUSE IN THE SIDE YARD AND RENT THAT OUT TO SOMEBODY AND MAKE EVEN MORE OF A PROBLEM THAT I'VE ALREADY GOT IN WARD FOUR. SO II. I BRISTLE AT 10.1 0.3, AND I'D LIKE TO SEE IT COME OUT COUNCIL COUPLE. IS THAT A MOTION TO TAKE THAT OUT? 10.1 0.3, ALL RIGHT. A MOTION TO SECOND. VICE MINISTER, IS IT THE WHOLE THING? OR IS IT JUST THE ACCESSORY DWELLINGS LIVE WORK UNITS, THE INCLUDING PIECE. IT'S THE ACCESSORY DWELLINGS PIECE. YES, OK. THANK YOU. STRIKE THAT LANGUAGE. UM IF I MAY I MODIFY MY MOTION TO TAKE A REFERENCE TO ACCESSORY DWELLING. AND LIVE SLASH WORK UNITS FROM 10.1 0.3. AND I DO WANNA JUST JUMP IN REAL QUICK THAT THIS IS A 20 M 20 YEAR VISION FOR OUR COMMUNITY, SO MAYBE WE'RE NOT READY NOW, AND MAYBE IT'S NOT A CATALYST STRATEGY, BUT MAYBE IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD WANT TO SUPPORT DOWN THE ROAD IN THAT 20 YEAR VISION. OK, PERFECT. WELL COUNCIL COVER HAS HIS MOTION.
YOU GOT A SECOND YOU GOT AMENDMENT ALL IN FAVOR. UH ANY OPPOSE? ALL RIGHT, WE'LL WE'LL MODIFY AND AMEND 10.1 0.3. THEN WITH THE CURRENT REVISION. OK? AND JUST TO BE COMPLETELY CLEAR.
YOU ALL ARE OK WITH THIS STAYING IN THE CATALYST STRATEGIES LIST. SO AS LONG AS THAT, UM PHRASE ABOUT ACCESSORY DWELLINGS AND LIVE WORK UNITS IS REMOVED, CORRECT. OK? THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION RELATED TO THESE STRATEGIES? ALRIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. NO MORE. THANK YOU. SO THAT CONCLUDES ALL OF THE DISCUSSION ITEMS THAT WE HAVE PREPARED FOR YOU TONIGHT. UM, JUST SO YOU ARE AWARE OF WHERE WE'RE GOING NEXT. UM, WE DO HAVE A TIGHT TURNAROUND TO, UM, PROVIDE THE FINAL DRAFT PLAN TO THE CITY IN ORDER TO MEET STATE CODE REQUIREMENTS FOR ADVERTISING FOR PUBLIC HEARINGS, UM, SO PLANNING TO GET THAT TO THE CITY EARLY NEXT WEEK. UM AND SETTING THE, UM, PLAN ON THE PUBLIC HEARING AGENDA FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION DURING THEIR REGULAR MEETING IN APRIL, AND THEN IT WOULD COME FOR COUNSEL
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DURING YOUR REGULAR MEETING IN MAY. AND THEN AGAIN, KEEP IN MIND. UM THERE'S YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY OTHER WORK. YOU CAN DO , UM, TO SUPPORT THE GOALS OF THE COMP PLAN. YOU KNOW, WE DISCUSSED THE ZONING ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS IMPLEMENTING THE SALARY STUDY. UM AND THEN YOU AND ALL HAVE THE ABILITY TO INITIATE AMENDMENTS TO THIS DOCUMENT AT ANY TIME, NOT JUST THE FIVE YEAR TIME FRAME THAT STATE CODE SPECIFIES. ARE THERE ANY FINAL QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? YES, SIR. I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION. UM VICE MAYOR HILL. YES IS IT I? I DIDN'T SEE IT, BUT IS THERE ANYTHING DEALING WITH RELATIONSHIP WITH VIRGINIA STATE UNIVERSITY OR RICHARD BLAND COLLEGE? WELL, WE SEE THAT LATER ON IN THE DOCUMENTS. YES SIR. SO IN THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CHAPTER, UM THERE'S A SECTION TALKING ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF VIRGINIA STATE.UM, BRIGHT POINT, RICHARD BLAND, UM TO THE PETERSBURG COMMUNITY, AND HOW PETERSBURG CAN LEVERAGE THOSE PARTNERSHIPS. UM AS AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TOOL. YES, SIR. THANK YOU. RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. WE'LL CONTINUE ON. THANK YOU. SO MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION. THANK YOU.
PLANNING COMMISSION FOR ALL YOUR WORK AS WELL ON ON GETTING THIS HERE, UM, BACK TO VICE MAYOR HILL. THIS IS NOT TO YOU. UH TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION. UM AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE THINKING IS. BUT LIKE OUR LAST FEW MEETINGS, THERE HAVE BEEN SOME RECOMMENDATIONS FOR SOME SPECIAL USE PERMITS. THAT WE HAVE VOTED DOWN. SO. I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED TO HAVE A CLOSED SESSION WITH YOU ALL. SO THAT WE CAN ALL GET ON THE SAME PAGE BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN SOME THINGS THAT COME TO COUNCIL. LAYERS FEW MONTHS THEY HAVE COME AND BEING THAT WE HAVE YOU ALL HERE. NOW THAT MAYBE YOU ALL CAN UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE THINKING THAT WE HAVE BEHIND IN THE CITIZENS HAVE SUPPORTED US WITH OUR ENDEAVOURS WHEN YOU ALL HAVE BOUGHT SOMETHING TO I JUST WANT US TO GET ON THE SAME WAVELENGTH. SO THAT'S ALL AND MAYBE WE CAN COME TOGETHER. UH, WORKSHOP OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN THE FUTURE, AND THEN EVERYBODY BE ON THE SAME PAGE BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND WE WANNA GET BUSINESS. WE WANNA GET REVENUE HERE, BUT WE JUST DON'T WANT IN IN EVERY TYPE OF BUSINESS HERE. UH AND I'M NOT GONNA NAME ANY, BUT, UH UH, EVEN WITH YOU KNOW, BECAUSE, OF COURSE. OUR RESIDENTS CALL US WHEN SOMETHING COME ON, AND BUT THEY DON'T CALL YOU ALL SO WE CAN ALL BE ON THE SAME WAVELENGTH. SO JUST FOR THE FUTURE MAN, WE CAN DO A WORKSHOP OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN THE NEAR FUTURE. THANK YOU. WE WOULD WELCOME A WORKSHOP. WE'VE ACTUALLY BEEN LOOKING FOR ONE FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS NOW, SO YOU GUYS WANNA PUT IT ON A SCHEDULE? WE'LL SHOW UP. OK, THANK YOU. GREAT. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER COMMENTS CONCERNS ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, EVERYBODY AND WE WILL KEEP MOVING ALONG WITH THE PLAN. THANK YOU AND HAVE A GOOD EVENING. NEXT IS ITEM THREE ADJOURNMENT. MOST YOU ADJOURN.
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