Mar 19, 2024 Regular City Council Meeting

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HI AFTERNOON, EVERYONE. THANK EVERYONE FOR JOINING US FOR OUR MARCH 19TH 2024 REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING. AT THIS TIME. IS HERE. COULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROAD? IT'S UH COUNCIL MEMBER. YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER JONES COUNCIL MEMBER. MYERS COUNCIL MEMBER. WESTBROOK PRESIDENT COUNCIL MEMBER. SMITH LEE, PRESIDENT, VICE MAYOR. HELL MAYOR PER SO YOU HAVE A QUORUM.

THANK YOU. NEXT WE'LL ROLL ON TO ITEM TWO, WHICH IS OUR OPENING PRAYER. VICE MAY HERE WILL LEAD US IN OPENING PRAYER. LET US PRAY. YOU HAVE ANY FATHERS ONCE AGAIN? WE COME BEFORE YOU, LORD.

GIVING YOUR NAME ON A PRAISE AND GLORY. WE THANK YOU FOR THIS DAY WE THANK YOU FOR THE BLESSINGS OF TODAY. NOW LORD, WE ASK THAT YOU MOVE IN THE MIDST OF THIS MEETING HEAVENLY FATHER AND BLESS US HEAVENLY FATHER. WE ASK THAT BLESSINGS UPON OUR CITIZENS HEAVENLY FATHER OF PETERSBURG.

THAT YOU WILL MOVE THROUGH US AND BE WITH US. HEAVENLY FATHER KEEP US ALL FROM ALL HURT, HARM AND DANGER. BUILD A HEDGE OF PROTECTION AROUND ALL OF US, THOUGH WE ASK THAT BLESSING UPON OUR CITY STAFF HEAVENLY FATHER ASK THAT BLESSING UPON OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, ALL THOSE WHO WORK AND PLAY IN THE CITY OF PETERSBURG BE WITH THIS COUNCIL IN A SPECIAL WAY THAT WE WILL MAKE, UH, THIS DECISIONS FROM ON HIGH WITH YOU IN MIND. HEAVENLY FATHER, WE BE EVER CAREFUL TO GET YOUR NAME ON THE HONOR OF PRIEST AND THE GLORY. IT'S IN JESUS' NAME. WE PRAY AND WE THANK YOU. AMEN. AMEN. NEXT IS ITEM THREE. CAN EVERYONE PLEASE STAND AND JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE? I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE. TO THE FLAG. OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. CO ORDINATION. UH, JUSTICE. RIGHT, X. ITEM FOUR HAS BEEN STATED. WE

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[5. Proclamations/Recognitions/Presentation of Ceremonial Proclamations]

ALL RIGHT. ROUND OF APPLAUSE FOR PLEASE MISS DOCTOR DAPHNE BAZILLE HANSON. DOCTOR HARRISON.

WE'RE GONNA COME UP FRONT.

WORK. YEAH. THANK YOU. SO MUCH FOR THE. I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE COUNCIL. OH,

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STAND UP TRESCA. WE? WE JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR IMPLEMENTING THE GOOD DEEDS FOR WOMEN IN THE CITY OF PETERSBURG. THANK YOU. NEXT IS ITEM B, WHICH IS, UH PROCLAMATION. FOR AMERICAN RED CROSS MONTH. WHEREAS DURING AN AMERICAN RED CROSS MONTH IN MARCH, WE RECOGNIZE THE COMPASSION OF PEOPLE IN THE CITY OF PETERSBURG AND REAFFIRM OUR COMMITMENT TO CARE FOR ONE ANOTHER IN TIMES OF CRISIS. AND WHEREAS THIS GENEROUS SPIRIT IS WING INTO THE FABRIC OF OUR COMMUNITY AND ADVANCES, THE HUMANITARIAN LEGACY OF AMERICAN RED CROSS FOUNDER CLARA BARTON ONE OF THE MOST HONORED WOMEN IN OUR COUNTRY. AND WHEREAS EVERY DAY THESE ORDINARY INDIVIDUALS LEND A HELPING HAND TO MAKE AN EXTRAORDINARY DIFFERENCE FOR NEIGHBORS IN NEED WHETHER IT'S PROVIDING EMERGENCY SHELTER, FOOD AND COMFORT FOR FAMILIES DISPLACED BY HOME FIRES AND OTHER DISASTERS, DONATING LIFE SAVING BLOOD FOR CANCER PATIENTS. ACCIDENT VICTIMS. AND PEOPLE WITH SICKLE CELL DISEASE AND OTHER LIFE THREATENING CONDITIONS, SUPPORTING MILITARY MEMBERS AND VETERANS, ALONG WITH THEIR FAMILIES AND CAREGIVERS THROUGH THE UNIQUE CHALLENGES OF SERVICE, USING VITAL SKILLS, LIKE FIRST AID AND CPR TO HELP OTHERS SURVIVE MEDICAL EMERGENCIES OR DELIVERING INTERNATIONAL HUMANITARIAN AID.

AND RECONNECTING LOVED ONES SEPARATED BY CRISIS AROUND THE WORLD. AND WHEREAS THEIR SUPPORT VOLUNTEERISM AND GENEROUS DONATIONS ARE CRITICAL TO OUR COMMUNITY'S RESILIENCE. WE HEREBY RECOGNIZE THIS MONTH OF MARCH. IN HONOR OF ALL THOSE WHO FULFILL CLARA BARTON'S NOBLE WORDS. YOU MUST NEVER THINK OF ANYTHING EXCEPT THE NEED AND HOW TO MEET IT. AND ASK EVERYONE TO JOIN IN THIS COMMITMENT. NOW. THEREFORE I MAYOR SAMUEL PRAYER, MY VIRTUE OF THE AUTHORITY VESTED IN ME. BY THE CITY OF PETERSBURG DO HEAR BAD PROCLAIM THE MONTH OF MARCH 2024 AS AMERICAN RED CROSS MONTH IN THE CITY OF PETERSBURG AND URGE ALL THE CITIZENS TO REACH OUT AND SUPPORT IS HUMANITARIAN MISSION DATED MARCH 19TH 2024 SIGNED BY MYSELF AND ACTING CLERK OF COUNSEL MS TANGY HILL. IS THERE ANYBODY HERE TO THIS EVENING WITH THE AMERICAN RED CROSS? YES. COME ON UP FOR IT.

DO IT THIS WAY. CONGRATULATIONS. I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL OF YOU AND FOR YOUR SUPPORT, AND I ABSOLUTELY WANNA ENCOURAGE ANYONE. ONE IF YOU DON'T HAVE A WORKING SMOKE ALARM IN YOUR HOME TO GET ONE, AND SECONDLY, WE WANNA JUST MAKE SURE EVERYBODY'S AWARE AND THAT WE'RE SO EXCITED THAT WE'LL BE PARTNERING WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND OTHER MULTIPLE AGENCIES THIS SATURDAY AS PART OF SOUND THE ALARM. IT'S ACTUALLY OUR NATIONAL SIGNATURE SITE THIS YEAR. UM WE'LL BE FOCUSING PRIMARILY IN WARD SIX AND WARD SEVEN, GOING DOOR TO DOOR TO INSTALL FREE SMOKE ALARMS. SO IF YOU KNOW ANYBODY THAT NEEDS AN ALARM, PLEASE HAVE THEM REACH OUT. SMOKE ALARMS CAN HELP. OF A LIFE. THANK Y'ALL SO MUCH. WE APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU. NEXT IS ITEM SIX RESPONSES TO PREVIOUS PUBLIC INFORMATION. POSTED THAT IS UNDER COUNCIL

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[7. Approval of Consent Agenda (to include minutes of previous meetings):]

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HELLO, MAYOR HIGH CO. NAOMI, SAY MARK DIRECTOR OF PLANNING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT. I'M ALWAYS SCARED TO TOUCH THE MICROPHONE. I APOLOGIZE. SO I'LL BE PRESENTING YOU TODAY. YOU'VE HEARD THIS LAST MONTH AS WELL. BUT THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF CONVERSATION THAT WE WANTED TO HAVE. BUT I'M BRINGING BACK BEFORE YOU 2023 ZTAO THREE, AND THIS IS FOCUSING ON MAKING A TEXT AMENDMENT TO OFF STREET PARKING REGULATIONS TO CLARIFY A REQUIREMENT OF DRIVEWAYS. SO AGAIN, WE'RE LOOKING TO CLARIFY THAT DRIVEWAYS ARE REQUIRED FOR LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, SO FOUR UNITS OR LESS TOWN HOMES, THOSE WILL NEED DRIVEWAYS. HOW THIS IS COMING BEFORE YOU WE'VE HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE COME BEFORE THE CITY LOOKING FOR CERTIFICATES OF OCCUPANCY, THINKING THAT THEIR RESIDENTIAL IMPROVEMENTS ARE COMPLETE AND READY TO GO, THEN REALIZING THAT THEY NEED A DRIVEWAY THAT THEY NEED PARKING ON SITE, AND THEY HADN'T NOTICED THAT BEFORE IT IS IN OUR CODE THAT PARKING IS REQUIRED, BUT WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR THE PUBLIC TO CLARIFY IN WHAT FORM AND HOW IT SHOULD LOOK. SO HERE WE HAVE THE PROPOSED LANGUAGE. WE ADD A DEFINITION OF DRIVEWAY. SO DRIVEWAY, THE PAVED AREA BETWEEN A RODENT STREET AND THE REQUIRED PARKING SPACES, WHICH PROVIDES AN APPROACH TO THE PARKING SPACES. AND THEN WE MAKE SOME CHANGES TO OFF STREET PARKING REGULATIONS. SO I WANTED TO POINT OUT HERE THAT BEFORE WE HAD THE OFF STREET PARKING REGULATION MODIFICATIONS SECTION FOUR GENERAL UNDER NUMBER EIGHT, BUT IT WAS BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION THAT NUMBER EIGHT SHOULD ALREADY EXIST BUT WASN'T AMENDED IN MUNI CODE AND I'LL SHOW YOU WHAT NUMBER EIGHT IS IN A SECOND, SO WE MADE THE MODIFICATION TO MOVE OUR RECOMMENDATION TO SECTION FOUR. GENERAL NINE. SO RESIDENTIAL PARKING REQUIREMENTS FOR SINGLE FAMILY DUPLEXES TRIPLEXES QUAD PEX TOWN HOMES MUST BE ACCOMMODATED IN THE FORM OF A DRIVEWAY. THAT MEETS THE MINIMUM PARKING, SPACE REQUIREMENTS AND DESIGN STANDARDS OF THIS ARTICLE. SO THIS ARTICLE ALREADY OUTLINES A BUNCH OF THE DETAILS WE WANT TO HAVE. THIS IS REALLY FOR CLARIFICATION. IT ALREADY SAYS THAT ALL LAND USE ALL LAND USES MUST HAVE OFF STREET PARKING. PARKING MUST BE SURFACED. IT ALREADY OUTLINES PARKING DIMENSIONS THAT ARE REQUIRED AND ALSO HOW MANY PARKING SPACES ARE REQUIRED FOR VARIOUS USES, LIKE SINGLE FAMILY AND TOWN, HOME USE OR MULTIFAMILY USE, INCLUDING DUPLEXES. SO PLANNING COMMISSION DID RECOMMEND THAT WE APPROVE THIS TEXT AMENDMENT TO INCORPORATE LANGUAGE ABOUT DRIVEWAYS. UH ONE THING THAT WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION LAST TIME WAS THAT THERE THERE WAS MISSING LANGUAGE FROM A PREVIOUS ADOPTED ORDINANCE. WE DID RESEARCH ON MY END IN THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND WITH THE CITY CLERK TO TAKE A LOOK AT WAS THAT LANGUAGE IS THAT CONTINUING ? WAS IT OVERWRITTEN AT A LATER DATE? WHAT IS THE STATUS OF IT? SO THAT LANGUAGE THAT WAS MISSING WAS TALKING ABOUT HAVING OFFICE PARKING WHAT IS ALLOWED TO PARK IN THE DRIVEWAY AND SO FORTH. BASED ON THE RESEARCH THAT WAS CONDUCTED IT IT WAS DETERMINED THAT IT HASN'T BEEN OVERWRITTEN. IT STILL EXISTS. IT JUST NEVER WAS UPLOADED INTO THE ONLINE MUNI CODE. SO WE'LL GO WITH WITH. WE'LL WORK WITH MUNI CODE TO GET THAT LANGUAGE IN THERE. UH, WE ALSO WERE TOLD THAT POTENTIALLY THERE WAS LANGUAGE THAT COULD HAVE MODIFIED THAT WE TOOK A LOOK AND FOUND SOME OTHER LANGUAGE IN THERE REGARDING OFF STREET PARKING, BUT IT REALLY JUST

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SO I THINK THAT WAS ONE THING THAT I WAS ASKED TO LOOK INTO LAST TIME. AND I'M NOT SURE IF THIS IS THE LANGUAGE THAT YOU'RE SPEAKING OF, BECAUSE THE LANGUAGE THAT I HAVE HERE ISN'T CURRENTLY IN THE REFLECTED IN THE CODE, BUT IT WAS ADOPTED AND IT WILL BE INTEGRATED IN THE CODE, AND THAT'S TALKING ABOUT HOW OFF STREET PARKING AREAS AND OFF STREET LOADING SPACES OF PORT TO ANY PERMITTED USE IN RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT SHALL BE PROVIDED ON THE SAME PARCEL LAND OCCUPIED BY THE USE IN WHICH IT'S RELEVANT. THEN IT SAYS, NO PERSON SHALL PARK. ANY MOTOR VEHICLE, TRAILER OR SEMI TRAILER ON THE FRONT OR SIDE YARD OF ANY LOT IMPROVED FOR THE SINGLE FAMILY OR TWO FAMILY DWELLING ZONED FOR RESIDENTIAL USE, EXCEPT ON A LAWFULLY PAVED SURFACE. IS THAT THE LANGUAGE THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR? BECAUSE THAT IS ALREADY ADOPTED? I? I BELIEVE THAT GIVE SOME RISE TO WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. UM BUT I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IT IS ENFORCEABLE. IT WOULD BE, UH FOR ANYONE THAT WAS FOUND TO BE, SAY, PARKING IN IN THEIR FRONT YARD ON A NON APPROVED SURFACE. IT WOULD BE A ZONING ORDINANCE VIOLATION AND YOU WOULD ENFORCE IT THROUGH THAT MANNER. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. YES. ALL RIGHT. COUNCILOR COVER THANK YOU, UH, MAYOR PERHAM. UM WHY WAS THIS PROVISION NOT UPLOADED TO UNICODE? THIS IS A PROVISION THAT WAS ADOPTED IN 2003. WE'VE GONE BACK AND LOOKED TO SEE WHAT , UH, ORDINANCE HAVEN'T HAVEN'T BEEN UPLOADED IN MUNI CODE YET, AND MOST OF THEM WERE JUST WITHIN THE RECENT FEW YEARS AND WE GOT THOSE UPLOADED. BUT THIS ONE I'M NOT SURE WHY ISN'T REFLECTED IN MUNI CODE. MOST OF WHAT WE HAVE BEEN CHANGED IS REFLECTED IN THE ONLINE ORDINANCE. WELL WE DON'T WANT THIS TO HAPPEN AGAIN. I MEAN, WHEN COUNCIL PASSES AN ORDINANCE IT NEEDS TO GO TO MUNI. UH, WE KNOW WHY IT DID NOT GO TO MUNI CODE. I MEAN, MAYBE MAYBE THAT CAN TELL TEACH US SOMETHING

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UH, UM MISS. MR ALTMAN, SHOULD WE HAVE AN AN ORDINANCE OR SOMETHING THAT CAR. SPECIFIES, SO THERE'S NO WIGGLE ROOM IN THE FUTURE. BECAUSE WIGGLE ROOM IN CITY HALL. IS LIMITLESS. I'VE NEVER SEEN SO MUCH WIGGLE ROOM. NOBODY'S RESPONSIBLE FOR ANYTHING IN CITY HALL WHEN IT GOES WHEN SOMETHING GOES WRONG. NOBODY'S RESPONSIBLE THAT I JUST SEE THAT REPEATEDLY, NOT NOBODY'S RESPONSIBLE. UH, WE JUST GET A PAYCHECK AND LA DI DA. I IT. WE KNEW HE TO PIN THIS DOWN. AND LEARN FROM FORTUNATELY , AN ERROR THAT IS OF VERY LITTLE CONSEQUENCE. UH TO MAKE SURE THAT THE ERROR IS NOT REPEATED. WHEN THERE'S A HUGE CONSEQUENCE. SO, UM MR ALTMAN, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT THAT? SO I WOULD SAY, UM, YOU KNOW, LIKE M, SO I'M NOT YOU CAN'T SPEAK TO WHY IT DIDN'T HAPPEN IN 21 YEARS AGO, BUT MOST OF THE JURISDICTIONS THAT I'VE WORKED IN REALLY ALL OF THEM. THE UPLOADING OF ORDINANCES WHETHER THEY'RE ZONING OR CITY CODE ORDINANCE RELATED BAR CODE RELATED WHATEVER. WE'RE ALL NESTED WITH A SINGLE WITH A SINGLE PERSON. AND THAT WAY ONCE IT WAS ADOPTED BY COUNSEL, EVERYTHING WAS UPLOADED. AND THERE WAS ONE ENTITY THAT WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT. THE KIND OF PUSHING IT OUT TO INDIVIDUAL IT. IT LEADS TO THINGS LIKE THIS NOT HAPPENING. SO I WOULD SAY, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS IF YOU NEED AN ORDINANCE, BUT IT MAY BE A POLICY THAT ONE OFFICE, MY OFFICE CITY ATTORNEY OR THE CLERK'S OFFICE. MOST OF THE PLACES THAT I'VE WORKED IN THE CLERK'S OFFICE HAS BEEN THE KEEPER OF THE RECORD, AND THEY'VE BEEN RESPONSIBLE FOR UPLOADING THINGS IN MUNICIPAL CODE AND THEN DISSEMINATING OUT BACK WHEN WE USED TO HAVE CODE BOOKS, ALL THE SUPPLEMENTS, SO IT'S USUALLY WHEREVER I'VE BEEN. THE CLERK HAS BEEN RESPONSIBLE FOR MAKING SURE THAT HAPPENS AND I WOULD THINK THAT HAVING ONE PERSON RESPONSIBLE REGARDLESS OF WHAT IT IS, WE KNOW IT'S HAPPENING. UM IN THAT WAY, IT MAKES IT EASIER BECAUSE DISSEMINATING THAT

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I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE CAREFUL. WE DO THAT, UH, I AGREE WITH IT. BUT ARE WE ADDING TO THE DUTIES OF THE CLERK OR COUNSEL? WITHOUT PROPERTY. WHEN YOU CREATE DUTIES, YOU SHOULD INCREASE PAY. WELL, THAT OUGHT TO BE EASY CAUSE RIGHT NOW WE DON'T HAVE A CLERK. SO IT'LL BE THE STARTING SALARY. I MEAN, DS IT IS. HI. YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROAD. YES, SIR COUNCILMAN CUTHBERT. I COUNCILMAN JONES COUNCIL MEMBER MYERS COUNCIL MEMBER WESTBROOK COUNCIL MEMBER SMITH LE VICE MAYOR HU MAYOR. THAT MOTION CARRIES MR MAYOR. WOULD YOU ASK MR CUTHBERT TO EXPLICITLY EXPLAIN WHAT IT IS THAT WE JUST DID. I DON'T THINK EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS. ALTHOUGH I THINK WE BELIEVE WE'RE ON THE RIGHT TRACK, BUT WOULD YOU EXPLICITLY EXPLAIN WHAT WE JUST DID? WELL, UM CERTAINLY, UH, IF THAT ORDINANCE ONCE WE HAVE THAT ORDINANCE BEFORE US OF WE'LL SEE EXACTLY WHAT IT SAYS. BUT MY EXPECTATION IS THAT IT WILL CLARIFY AND SPECIFY THAT THE RESPONSIBILITY FOR UPLOADING ORDINANCES PASSED BY UM S CITY COUNCIL. UM, AFFECTING AND THE CITY ATTORNEY CAN, UH, UM DEFINE THE SCOPE. UM, BUT I WOULD SAY AFFECTING THE OPERATIONS OF THE CITY. UM THAT RESPONSIBILITY WOULD BE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE CLERK OF COUNSEL. SO THAT WE WOULD NOT HAVE A REPETITION. OF WHAT HAPPENED BACK IN 2003, AND WE ALL SCRATCHING OUR HEADS, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHOSE JOB IT WAS AND WHO DROPPED THE BALL. UM, I THINK WE NEED TO DEFINED RESPONSIBILITY SO THAT THERE CAN BE ACCOUNTABILITY. AND THEY'RE ALSO CAN BE AN UNDERSTANDING ON THE OTHER SIDE. AS TO THE EMPLOYEE'S JOB DUTIES. SO I THINK IT'S A IT'S A CLARIFICATION. DID I ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? MR MYERS. THANKS. RIGHT? COUNCILOR SMITHLEY.

NAOMI. 2003. IT WASN'T YOUR FAULT. THANK YOU OK? OR ANYBODY ELSE'S OK? SO JUST CONTINUE TO DO YOUR JOB. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. COUNCILMAN JONES. HOW YOU DOING? THE, UM THIS ORDINANCE.

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LEAVING THEIR RIGS ON THE PUBLIC STREET. AND VACANT LOTS. THINGS OF THAT NATURE. I KNOW TO TALK.

THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ARE TIRED OF GOING TO THESE KIND OF CALLS WHEN WE CAN USE THEM SOMEWHERE ELSE, BUT PEOPLE ARE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF VACANT LOTS. ABANDON LIVES. AND I SEE RIGS EVERYWHERE, AND I SAID IT BEFORE, AND IT'S LIKE YOU SAID. IT'S NOT YOUR FAULT, BUT IT'S ALL OF OUR RESPONSIBILITY. SOME OF THESE RIGS A RE LEFT THERE FOR A REASON. LIKE IN CALIFORNIA AND PLACES LIKE THAT FOR ANY KIND OF DRUGS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. WEAPONS CAN BE LEFT ON THOSE THINGS SO OVERNIGHT WHEN NOBODY'S LOOKING THEY GET UNLOADED. AND YOU SEE HIM AFTER THREE DAYS, THEY DISAPPEAR AGAIN AND COME BACK IN ANOTHER WEEK OR SO. SO, WITH THIS ORDINANCE, I SEE IT ON, UM NORTH SOUTH STREET OVER THERE WHERE IT'S LIKE A INDUSTRIAL UH, THERE. YOU GOT TRACTOR TRAILERS. PARKING ON THE STREET WITH SCHOOL BUSES GOT TO GO AROUND IN ORDER TO GET DOWN THE STREET THAT'S DANGEROUS, ONCOMING TRAFFIC. SO HOW? HOW DOES THIS FIT INTO THAT? AND IF IT DON'T, CAN WE ADD SOMETHING? UM TO THAT ORDINANCE. FOR VACANT PARKING LOTS, ABANDONED LOTS AND PUBLIC STREETS. I THINK WE ALREADY GOT SOMETHING BECAUSE THAT'S WHY THE POLICE DO RESPOND , BUT HE LOOK INTO THAT OR EXPLAIN, OF COURSE. YEAH AND THEN WHEN IT COMES TO ON STREET PARKING, SO THIS IS SP SPECIFICALLY REGULATING OFF STREET PARKING, WHICH IS MORE WHERE ZONING COMES INTO PLAY, BUT WHEN IT COMES TO ON STREET PARKING, THAT'S WHERE THE POLICE COME INTO PLAY. I THINK I HEARD YOU MENTION TRACTOR TRAILERS. WHEN YOU WERE MENTIONING THIS WHOLE THING? YES. SO THIS LANGUAGE THAT WAS ADOPTED IN 2003 JUST MENTIONS THAT ANYTHING THAT'S PARKED IN THE FRONT YARD NEEDS TO BE PAID PARKED ON A PAVED SURFACE. THAT'S WHAT IT SPECIFYING. SO WE DEFINITELY COULD LOOK INTO REGULATING SOMETHING WE'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT REGULATING IS DEFINING WHAT A COMMERCIAL VEHICLE IS AND THEN REGULATING WHERE COMMERCIAL VEHICLE CAN BE PARKED, SO YOU CAN'T HAVE A VEHICLE OVER 10,000 GROSS VEHICLE WEIGHT RATING PARKED IN YOUR FRONT YARD, WHICH WOULD BE LIKE THESE TRACTOR TRAILERS OR YOUR RV OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, SINCE IT'S NOT, UM IT'S NOT RESIDENTIAL IN CHARACTER. UH, I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE. I'M TALKING ABOUT TRACTOR TRAILERS, LEAVING THE RIGS THAT JUST CONNECT. THEY DISCONNECT. THEY LEAVE IT ON VACANT PROPERTIES ABANDONED PROPERTY. THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. SURE AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN LOOK INTO ENFORCING IN TERMS OF ZONING. IF IT'S ON THE OFF OFF STREET PARKING, SO WE'D LOOK AT THE USE OF THE PROPERTY IF THERE'S A BUSINESS LICENSE IF IT'S JUST A VACANT PROPERTY AND SOMEONE'S STORING VEHICLES ON THERE, THAT THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE ALLOWED BY, RIGHT SO WE CAN DEFINITELY GO AND CHECK OUT WHERE THIS VEHICLES ARE BEING JUST STORED AND WORK ON ENFORCEMENT. I KNOW I'VE SEEN 101 WEST WASHINGTON STREET WHEN I COME FROM THE BUS STOP IS ONE THAT WE NEED TO CHECK OUT BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE MORE VEHICLES ARE COMING OUT. THAT LOT. AS AS DAYS GO BY.

THERE'S A TRAILER OUT THERE. THERE'S A VAN OUT THERE. I'M NOT SURE WHY THOSE VEHICLES ARE THERE SO DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT HAS TO DO WITH MAKING SURE NO ONE'S PARKING ON. CITY OWNED PROPERTY WITHOUT THE PROPER PERMISSION AND SO FORTH. AND VEGAN PROPERTY. THANK COUNCILMAN JONES. I HEAR SOMETHING SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IN MY WAR SOME TIME AGO WHERE INDIVIDUALS WAS PARKING, UH, THEIR RIGS. ON UH, IT WAS PRIVATE PROPERTY. AND THEY DIDN'T HAVE PERMISSION FOR IT. AND OF COURSE, THAT'S NOT A PLACE WHERE YOU CAN PARK. SO WHAT I DID WAS I GOT IN CONTACT WITH THE CITY MANAGER AT THAT TIME THEY GOT IN CONTACT WITH POLICE. AND NORMALLY, THAT'S A POLICE ISSUE AND THEN THE POLICE OFFICERS. THEY CITED THEM AND THEY END UP MOVING FIRST. THEY WARNED HIM AND THEN IF THEY CAME BACK, THEY WAS GONNA CITE THEM.

SO THAT'S BASICALLY THE PROCEDURE THAT WE GO THROUGH. IF IT'S IN AN AREA NOW FOR THOSE RIGS THAT ARE PARKING, ACTUALLY ON THE STREET, THIS DETACHED THAT IS A VIOLATION AND BY THAT BEING A VIOLATION. UM UH, THE INDIVIDUAL OR THE RESIDENTS COULD CALL THE POLICE THE NON EMERGENCY NUMBER AND THEY'LL COME AND TICKET THEM. SO THAT'S THE PROCEDURE WE NORMALLY GO THROUGH. I THINK THE ATTORNEY WAS GOING TO CHIME IN ON SOMETHING. I WAS JUST GONNA SAY THERE IS A PROVISION IN THE CITY CODE FOR REMOVAL AND DISPOSAL OF THOSE VEHICLES WHEN IT'S ON PROPERTY THAT IS NOT PUBLIC PROPERTY. UH SO, YEAH, EVERYTHING YOU JUST SAID, IS ACTUALLY CORRECT THAT THAT PROVISION ACTUALLY ENABLES US TO GO IN THERE AND TAKE THAT, UH, TRAILER AFTER TRYING TO CONTACT THE OWNER AND DISPOSE OF IT OR SELL IT. AND WE PRETTY RECENTLY, UH, HAD ONE THAT THEY DID THAT WITH, UM, PROBABLY IN THE LAST TWO MONTHS. THIS IS ALL I HAVE.

OK? ALL RIGHT. SO NOW I ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO, UM, APPROVE THE ORDINANCE BECAUSE WE

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UM I SAYING THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE ORDINANCE TO AMEND AND RAPT ARTICLE THREE DEFINITIONS AND ARTICLE 19 ALL STREET PARKING REGULATIONS TO CLARIFY REQUIREMENT OF DRIVEWAYS FOR LOW DENSITY HOUSING AND THE REQUEST OF THE PUBLIC AT THE REQUEST OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION. VICE MAYOR HILL SO MOVE COUNCILMAN JONES SECOND ALRIGHT MISS HILL. COULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROAD? YES, SIR. COUNCIL MEMBER CUTHBERT, COUNCIL MEMBER JONES COUNCIL MEMBER MYERS COUNCIL MEMBER. WESTBROOK COUNCIL MEMBER SMITH LEE, VICE MAYOR HULL MAYOR. PER SO THAT MOTION HERE. OK? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ALL RIGHT, THAT CONCLUDES OUR PUBLIC HEARING. ONE MORE. ONE MORE. YEAH, THERE'S ONE ITEM IT'S LISTED IN OUR NEW BUSINESS. IT'S ACTUALLY SUPPOSED TO BE SHOWN UNDER THE PUBLIC HEARING. UH, THIS WAS THE SIGN REGULATION ISSUE. YES 2023 ZTAO TWO. OK PERFECT. THAT'S ITEM IS WAS UNDER 14 A. BUT THIS IS A ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING IN 2022 2023 ZTAO TWO. I REQUEST TO SCHEDULE A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND AND READOPT ARTICLE 21. SIGN REGULATIONS TO REGULATE AND ALLOW FOR A SANDWICH BOARD A FRAME SIGNS. THE SAD MO, OF COURSE. SO AGAIN, THIS IS CASE 2023 ZTAO, TWO FOR SANDWICH BOARD AND A FRAME PORTABLE SIGNS. SO RIGHT NOW, THE CITY CODE DOES NOT ALLOW PORTABLE SIGNS ON OUR IN OUR PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY. SO ALL PORTABLE AND NON CONSTRUCTION SIGNS ARE CURRENTLY PROHIBITED UNDER A COUPLE SECTIONS OF OUR CODE SECTION.

98-124 NO PERSON SHALL PLACE KEEP OR STORE OR EXHIBIT OR DISPLAY FOR SALE ANY GOODS, WARES, MERCHANDISE OR MAINTAIN ANY ADVERTISING SIGNS ON THE SIDEWALK OF THE CITY AND THEN SECTION SIX OF APPENDIX B PROHIBITED SIGNS THE FOLLOWING SIGN SHALL BE PROHIBITED IN ALL DISTRICT. TO ALL PORTABLE AND NONSTRUCTURAL SIGNS. SO THE CURRENT CONCERNS WE HAVE SANDWICH BOARD SIGNS, WHICH I'LL SHOW YOU A BUNCH OF PICTURES. ALL OVER THE CITY, BUT CURRENTLY THEY'RE AGAINST THE CODE. THERE'S ALSO THE CONCERN THAT PLANNING COMMISSION BROUGHT UP THAT IT HAS IMPACTS ON WALK ABILITY AND ACCESSIBILITY OF SIDEWALKS, SO WE LOOK TO FIGURE OUT DO WE WANT SANDWICH BOARD SIGNS AND HOW DO WE WANT TO REGULATE THEM? SO HERE YOU CAN SEE SOME EXAMPLES NOR SYCAMORE STREET, YOU CAN SEE A FEW OF THE SANDWICH BOARD SIGNS ON THAT ROADWAY. NOR SMORE STREET OR OLD STREET AS WELL. WEST BANK STREET AND WEST OLD STREET. EAST OLD STREET. AND EAST BANK STREET. THESE ARE A FEW EXAMPLES THAT YOU COME ACROSS WHILE YOU'RE DOWNTOWN. SO WE ALSO TOOK A LOOK. A T. WHAT A RE THE POTENTIAL BENEFITS FOR SANDWICH BOARD SIGNS, SO IT REALLY HELPS A SMALL BUSINESS STAND OUT. THEY CAN CUSTOMIZE THEIR MESSAGING.

IT MAKES IT VERSATILE. UH, IT CAN COME IN AND OUT DAY OR NIGHT , SO IT'S JUST TEMPORARILY TEMPORARY REMOVABLE SIGNAGE THAT ENHANCES, UH, A BUSINESS'S VISIBILITY BRINGS CHARACTER TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO AS YOU COULD SEE IN SOME OF THOSE PICTURES, THOSE SIGNS GET CREATIVE. THEY'RE INTERESTING. THEY DRAW PEOPLE'S ATTENTION TO THE BUSINESS AND MAKE SOMEONE WANT TO GO INTO IT. AND IT ALSO CREATES A SMALL TOWN TYPE ENVIRONMENT JUST A MORE WALKABLE, PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED FEEL. SO THIS PROPOSAL THAT WE HAVE HERE IS THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO ALLOW SANDWICH BOARD SIGNS BUT IN A REGULATED MANNER, SO RIGHT NOW YOU CAN SEE IN ONE OF THE EXAMPLES. I SHOWED YOU THAT THERE WERE FOUR SANDWICH BOARD SIGNS PILED AT THE END OF ONE OF THE STREETS THAT WE HAVE SYCAMORE STREET RIGHT AT THE END. WE'RE LOOKING TO MAKE IT SO IT'S NOT, UH, A COLLECTION OF CLUTTER. IT IS AN ENHANCEMENT TO THE DOWNTOWN AND OTHER AREAS THAT SEE IT AS A BENEFIT. SO ONLY ONE SANDWICH BOARD SIGN MAY BE LOCATED AT A PROPERTY OCCUPIED BY THAT'S PERMITTED LAWFULLY IN THE ZONING DISTRICT. ALL THE SIGNS SHALL BE LOCATED EITHER ON THE PARCEL OF THE BUSINESS OR WITHIN THE RIGHT OF WAY. THE BUSINESS ONLY IF THE BUILDING IS WITHIN 5 FT. OF THE PEDESTRIAN RIGHT OF WAY. SO WE IN CASES WHERE THERE IS NO OTHER LOCATION FOR THIS SIGN TO GO. OR WITHIN THE CLOSEST MAIN PEDESTRIAN RIGHT OF WAY OF THE BUSINESS. THIS IS AN EXAMPLE. UH, WE HAVE A FEW BUSINESSES THAT ARE REALLY ON THESE SIDE STREETS ALLEYS AND THEY MAY NEED MORE BUILD, UH, VISIBILITY TO PULL PEOPLE IN. SO HAVING A SANDWICH BOARD SIGNED RIGHT OUT FRONT ISN'T GONNA DRAW THAT VISIBILITY, SO WE'RE ALLOWING A LITTLE BIT OF LENIENCY TO ATTRACT PEOPLE TO THOSE BUSINESSES. WE ALSO MAKE SURE THAT ANY SIGN THAT'S PLACED IN THE RIGHT OF WAY SHOWS THERE ARE 36 INCHES OF CLEARANCE. THAT'S A PRETTY TYPICAL STANDARD THAT WE'VE SEEN IN A LOT OF C. THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE AT LEAST 3 FT. OF CLEARANCE FOR PEOPLE TO WALK AND SAFELY GET DOWN THE SIDEWALK. SO MUCH SPORT SCIENCE SHOULD ALSO NOT BE IN OFF STREET PARKING. THEY SHOULDN'T BE IN A DRIVEWAY, AN

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WE MAKE SURE THAT THE SIGNS CAN'T BE LIT OR FLASHING OR HAVE PENANCE OR BALLOONS. THEY ARE TO BE STRAIGHTFORWARD SANDWICH BOARD SIGNS LIKE WE SEE IN THE PICTURES THAT I SHARED WITH YOU ALL. ALSO THAT THEY'RE ONLY GONNA BE DISPLAYED DURING BUSINESS HOURS. THAT INCLUDES, UH A LITTLE BIT BEFORE SETUP AND BREAKDOWN, BUT FORMAL BUSINESS HOUR TIMES. AND THEN ALSO MAKING IT CLEAR THAT IT'S NOT SUBJECT TO ONE OF THE CODE SECTIONS THAT I SHARED WITH YOU THAT LIMIT SANDWICH BOARD SIGNS IN THE RIGHT OF WAY. LASTLY WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE'S GOING TO BE SAFE WITH THESE SIGNS. SO WE ARE GONNA REQUIRE PEOPLE TO COME IN AND GET A LICENSE FROM US. THERE'S GONNA BE NO COST FOR THE LICENSE, BUT WE DO WANT TO ENSURE PEOPLE HAVE LIABILITY INSURANCE THAT MAKES IT SO. THE CITY IS NOT AT FAULT IN ANY CASE , SHOULD SOMEONE BE INJURED OR SOMETHING BE DAMAGED AS A RESULT OF THESE SIGNS, AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE CURRENTLY HAVE IN OUR CODE. WE HAVE LANGUAGE THAT MAKES IT SO PEOPLE COME TO US AND ENSURE THAT THE CITY IS NOT LIABLE AND THEY GET SIGNED OFF AND APPROVED FOR HAVING THE PROPER INSURANCE TO ENSURE THAT WE LOOKED AT SEVERAL ORDINANCES FOR THIS. WE LOOKED AT FREDERICKSBURG STANTON, CHARLOTTESVILLE, RICHMOND. WE JUST TOOK A LOT OF CODES WHERE PEOPLE HAVE WALKABLE ENVIRONMENTS THAT ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY AND HAVE THESE SANDWICH BOARD SIGNS.

RECOMMENDATION PLANNING COMMISSION IS RECOMMENDATION RECOMMENDING THAT YOU ALL ADOPT AMEND AND READOPT THIS ARTICLE TO ALLOW FOR SANDWICH BOARD SIGNS. LET ME KNOW IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS. OK? THANK YOU. THIS IS NEXT OPEN THE FLOOR FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING. AND THIS IS ON THE. REQUEST TO SCHEDULE A PUBLIC HEARING OR CONSIDERATION OR ORDINANCE TO AMEND AND READ ARTICLE. 21 SIGN REGULATIONS TO REGULATE AND ALLOW FOR SANDWICH BOARD A FRAME SIZE. ALL RIGHT? YES, MA'AM. COUNCIL. RIGHT. COME TO THE MICROPHONE, PLEASE. YES. GOOD AFTERNOON COUNSEL. UH LISA WALDEN 301 OL ROAD. UH IN THIS AMENDMENT, OR THIS PROPOSAL FOR THE SANDWICH BOARD, I BELIEVE IS A GREAT IDEA FOR THE CITY. AS A WHOLE, THE ONLY CONCERN THAT I WOULD HAVE OR WOULD LIKE FOR YOU ALL TO CONSIDER IS UH, THE CURRENT BUSINESSES THAT ARE OUT THERE IF THEY SHOULD. I UNDERSTAND YOU THE PROCEDURE, THE OF CHECKING AND EVERYTHING, BUT ACTUALLY, WHO'S GONNA CHECK TO SEE IF THEY ACTUALLY DID THAT? UH, LICENSE THEIR FREE OFFER OF A LICENSE. WHAT OFFICE IS GONNA BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT? THAT IS MY QUESTION. OK? THANK YOU. RIGHT, MR ORMAN. FOR THE ANSWER ON MISS WALD'S QUESTION, UH AS THIS IS AN AMENDMENT TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE THAT WILL BE THE LEARNING INSPECTOR AND THE ZONING. UH ADMINISTRATOR THAT WILL BE ENFORCING THE SECTION OF THE CODE. SO THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT THE ZONING STAFF WILL BE ENFORCING THIS OK? UM, NEXT, UM MISTER LIM WITH CHRISTIAN. GOOD EVENING, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL . GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS LINWOOD CHRISTIAN RESIDE AT 633 WEST WASHINGTON STREET. I TOO ONE OF THE FEW TIMES I AGREE WITH PLANNING ON ANYTHING, UM, WOULD HOPE THAT COUNT WOULD APPROVE THIS RECOMMENDATION. ONE OF THE THINGS OVER THE YEARS THAT A LOT OF BUSINESSES THAT WANTED TO COME TO PETERSBURG THIS IS ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT THEY HAVE BROUGHT UP AS TO WHY THEY DON'T COME HERE. AND ALSO AS FOR THE SMALL TOWN APPEAL. MOST OF THE CITIES THAT I'VE GONE TO THAT HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THIS IN PLACE A LARGER TOWNS BECAUSE IN YOUR SMALLER TOWNS, EVERYBODY KNOWS EVERYBODY KNOWS WHO RUNS WHAT RESTAURANT AND WHAT THEY HAVE. AND AGAIN. I'M GLAD BECAUSE THERE WAS ONE QUESTION, BUT IT WAS ANSWERED. LOOKING AT BECAUSE THERE HAVE BEEN TIMES WHEN I'VE SEEN EVEN IN OLD TOWN. LET'S SAY IF MY BUSINESS IS AT THE CORNER OF BANK IN SYCAMORE. I MIGHT SEE THE SIGN OFFERING WHAT THEY HAVE AT THAT LITTLE PARKING LOT RIGHT THERE. AND UM, BUT YOU DID BRING SOMETHING UP ABOUT HOLDING, MAKING SURE WHEN THEY GET THAT LICENSE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THEIR RESPONSIBILITY IS AS WELL. AND I'M UH, LIKE I SAID, I'M GLAD

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IT'S NOT IN THE WAY I MEAN, IF IT'S IN THE IN THE RIGHT OF WAY. JUST HAVE THEM SLIDE IT OVER.

THAT'S THE ONE THING YOU SAID, WELL, IT'S NOT IN THE RIGHT OF WAY. JUST SLIDE IT OVER SOMETHING LIKE THAT. BUT AIN'T NOBODY GONNA GO OUT THERE AND MEASURE 36 INCHES AND SEE IF IT'S EXACTLY THAT, YOU KNOW, AND IF YOU DO THIS, YOU GOTTA TELL EVERYBODY I KNOW WHO TOWN AND EVERYWHERE ELSE. MOVE YOUR FURNITURE. YOU GOT TO TELL A MOVIE FURNITURE, NOT ONE CHAIR SHOULD BE ON THAT SIDEWALK. SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE DO WE REALLY WANT TO WASTE TIME DOING THIS? I MEAN, I JUST ASKED Y'ALL TO LOOK INTO THE VEGAN PARKING LOTS AND MAKING SURE WE CAN COME UP WITH A PERMIT PROCESS FOR THAT. THAT'S WHERE THE DRUGS AND GUNS COMING IN THAT SO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WOULD APPRECIATE THAT ONE. FOR A CHAIR AND A SIGN. WHAT WE GONNA CALL CHIEF CHRIS A MAN. TELL HIM COME MOVE THIS SIGN. HE AIN'T GOT NO FEVER. NEITHER. BUT IN ALL HONESTY. I WANT TO MAKE A MOTION AFTER EVERYBODY FINISH. THAT WE DO NOT ENTERTAIN THIS RECOMMENDATION. THANK YOU. VICE MAY I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. BUT AS OF NOW, WE JUST HAVEN'T BEEN ENFORCED TO EVIDENTLY AS IN NAIL, UH, COUNCILMAN JONES IS ILLEGAL TO HAVE ANY SIGNS OUT THERE, SO WE HAVE TO PUT SOMETHING IN PLACE. UH OR AS WE JUST BE TELLING EVERYBODY TO TAKE UP EVERYTHING. SO WITH THIS RIGHT HERE WAS IT WOULD ALLOW THEM TO DO WHAT THEY'VE BEEN DOING, UH, WE JUST AN ILLEGAL ILLEGAL MANNER. AS YOU ALL KNOW, MY BUSINESS IS

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AND ON OLD STREET. WHERE, MISS UH DES OFFICE WAS AT M ROSLING DAD'S OFFICE WAS AT RIGHT. THERE IS A FIRE HYDRANT. NOW. HOW MANY OF Y'ALL KNOW YOU CAN PARK IN FRONT OF A FIRE HYDRANT, RIGHT? HOW MANY OF Y'ALL KNOW THAT? RAISE YOUR HAND. WE ALLOW A TWO HOUR PARKING IN FRONT OF THAT HYGEN, BUT WE WOULD WRITE A TICKET TO SOMEBODY PARKED IN FRONT OF A HYDRANT UP SYCAMORE STREET. WE HAVE BECOME A CITY OF PICKING AND CHOOSING. WE CANNOT AFFORD TO KEEP PICKING AND CHOOSING. SO WE'RE GONNA DO SOMETHING. IT GOT TO BE ACROSS THE BOARD. I KNOW I'M GONNA ALLOW YOU AND NOT ALLOW YOU. WE CAN'T DO IT THAT WAY. NO MORE. WE CAN'T DO IT THAT WAY. NO MORE. MOST OF THESE PEOPLE UP HERE. C MANAGER WASN'T HERE. MISS ADAM UP WASN'T HERE. I DON'T THINK THIS COUNCIL IS HERE. WHEN THAT SIGN WAS PUT UP THERE TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO PARK.

I'LL SHOW YOU A PICTURE NEXT TO ME. IF I HAVE TO, BUT JUST DRIVE PAST IT, YOU'LL SEE IT. HOW DOES THAT AFFECT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IF THEY GOTTA GET TO THAT BUILDING DOWN THERE WHEN WE SAID YOU CAN PARK RIGHT THERE FOR TWO HOURS. YOU KNOW, SO WE CANNOT PICK AND CHOOSE. I'M STILL AGAINST THIS THING. WE CAN'T PICK AND CHOOSE. WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH PERSONNEL. WE'RE TRYING TO RE CLASSIFY POSITIONS NOW TO GET OUR WORKFORCE UP TO PAR. BUT WE NEED MORE FOCUS ON BLIGHT.

AND PERSONNEL AND BLIGHT AND MORE HELP WITH YOUR DEPARTMENT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION, IF NOT THE MOTION AT THIS TIME. VICE MAYOR HILL. A MOVE THAT WE ADOPT THE ORDINANCE. COUNCILOR MYERS A SECOND MOTION. THE SECOND THE DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION. 39 MISS HILL. COULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROOM? YES, SIR. COUNCIL MEMBER, CUTHBERT. COUNCIL MEMBER JONES NO. COUNCIL MEMBER MYERS COUNCIL MEMBER WESTBROOK. COUNCIL MEMBER SMITH LEE, VICE MAYOR HILL MAYOR PER A SIR. THE MOTIONS OK? MR MAYOR. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN CUP BEFORE WE LEAVE, UH THIS ITEM. I WONDER IF IN THE FUTURE. PUBLIC HEARINGS COULD BE LISTED. UNDER NUMBER EIGHT OFFICIAL PUBLIC HEARINGS. RATHER THAN STUCK OVER UNDER. IN ONE CASE, 13, A UNFINISHED BUSINESS AND IN ANOTHER CASE. NEW BUSINESS. UH, ANYBODY LOOKING AT THIS? AGENDA. RAPIDLY. WE THINK

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AS PUB PUBLIC HEARINGS, RIGHT, MR AL. YEAH. THEY WERE PROPERLY ADVERTISED AS INADVERTENTLY PLACED IN THE WRONG SECTION OF THE AGENDA. GOOD. OKAY. OKAY, WELL, WE WE'LL? WE'LL MAKE SURE IT DOESN'T HAPPEN. I'VE NEVER SEEN IT BEFORE. UH, GOOD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR MAYOR. THANK

[9. Public Information Period]

NO. DAY OF THE MEETING, ADAM B SECOND IN CHRONOLOGICAL ORDER OF THEIR SIGN UP PERSONS WHO HAVE SIGNED THE SIGN UP SHEET PLACED BY THE CLERK IN THE REAR OF THE MEETING ROOM PRIOR TO THE MEETING REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA. RIGHT TODAY. WE HAVE FOR SIGN UP TO SPEAK. WE START OUT WITH RUTH JOHNSON. THIS RU JOHNSON. OKAY? I HEAR UM, NEXT, WE WILL MOVE ON TO MRS BARBARA RUDOLPH. OKAY. I THINK GARRET FIXED IT. THANK YOU, UM GOOD AFTERNOON, BARBARA RUDOLPH 1675 MOUNT VERNON STREET. UM ASKED MARCH 7TH, WHICH WAS A COUPLE DAYS AFTER OUR PREVIOUS MEETING.

THERE WAS A AV DOT OPEN HOUSE HELD HERE IN THIS ROOM. THAT WAS ON THE STARS PROJECT. WHICH INCLUDES UM SOME PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE INTERSTATES AND ALSO TWO WAY STREETS FOR WASHINGTON AND WITH STREET SO IT WOULD AFFECT EXIT 52, WHICH IS WASHINGTON, WHERE IT INTERSECTS WITH 95 AND WITH STREET AND IT WOULD ALSO AFFECT EXIT 50, WHERE 85 AND 95 CONVERGE AND ALSO FOR 60. IT WAS VERY INTERESTING PRESENTATION. AND I WISH IT HAD BEEN BETTER ATTENDED, BUT I THINK EVERYBODY WHO WENT AND TALKED TO THE VOC REPRESENTATIVES FOUND IT USEFUL.

UM, I ALSO TALKED ABOUT IT LATER ON SOCIAL MEDIA, AND I GOT A LOT MORE INTEREST THAN I ANTICIPATED. SO PEOPLE ARE, UM, ARE CONCERNED BECAUSE THE PLANS THAT V DOT IS PROPOSING HAVE BEEN SHARED ONLINE. AND UM, THOSE WHO WENT TO THIS OPEN HOUSE COULD ASK QUESTIONS, BUT OTHER PEOPLE HAVE. YOU KNOW, THE MORE PEOPLE LOOK AT IT, THE MORE QUESTIONS THEY HAVE. IT'S ONE OF THOSE KIND OF THINGS. SO MY REASON TO TALK ABOUT IT TONIGHT IS TO ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO HAVE EITHER TO ADD IT TO AN AGENDA WHERE YOU CAN GET A PRESENTATION FROM V DOT AND ALLOW FOR THE PUBLIC ALSO TO SHARE THEIR THOUGHTS AFTER THE PRESENTATION, AND FOR YOU ALL TO SEE ALL OF ALL SEVEN OF YOU TO SEE WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED, OR EVEN TO HAVE, UM, A SPECIAL MEETING IF IT'S IF IT DOESN'T WORK OUT TO PUT IT INTO A, UM, A CITY COUNCIL MEETING BECAUSE LAST MEETING, THERE WAS A PRESENTATION CALLED PROJECT PIPELINE. THAT WITH V DO PEOPLE AND IT I FOUND OUT FROM THAT PRESENTATION THAT THEY'RE GONNA BUILD A SIDEWALK SO I CAN WALK TO WALMART. I'M SORRY. I'M BEING A LITTLE SARCASTIC BECAUSE I THINK THAT THE SCOPE AND IMPACT OF WHAT PROJECT STARS ADDRESSES IS SO MUCH MORE SIGNIFICANT. FOR THE CITY AND FOR THE BASICALLY THE STATE WANTS TO TALK TO BE. THEIR CONCERN IS INTERSTATE TRAVEL AND HOW TO MAKE THAT MAKE SENSE, AND THAT'S IMPORTANT TO US, TOO, BECAUSE YOU WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW HOW TO GET OFF AT PETERSBURG AND VISIT HERE AND BRING UP BRING BUSINESS TO US, BUT FOR RESIDENTS. THERE'S ALSO A WHOLE LOT OF THINGS THAT COULD CHANGE AND MAKE OUR LIVES AND TRAVELING AROUND THE CITY, MUCH MORE INCONVENIENT THAN THEY CURRENTLY ARE. SO I THINK YOU ALL AS COUNSELORS. I MEAN, OWE IT TO YOURSELVES AND TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS. TO BE MORE AWARE OF THESE THINGS, BECAUSE IF THIS

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GOOD EVENING AGAIN. MAYOR MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL AND FIRST UM LYNWOOD, CHRISTIAN 633 US. WASHINGTON STREET FIRST, LET ME SAY UH, MR MAYOR. I DO HOPE, UH, YOU GET BETTER? WELL, NO, I'M NOT GOING TO SAY I HOPE I KNOW YOU'RE GONNA BECAUSE YOU'RE LOOKING AT A SURVIVOR, OK? ALL RIGHT FOR 14 YEARS NOW, SURVIVOR, SO YOU'RE GONNA GET THROUGH IT AS WELL. I'M HERE TO, UM SAY TO MEMBERS OF COUNCIL AS A RESIDENT OF THIS CITY. BEEN HERE LONG ENOUGH TO REMEMBER WHEN MR CUTHBERT'S FATHER SERVED ON CITY COUNCIL. WHEN UM REMY ARNOLD, WHO LIVED IN COLONIAL

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AND I'M SORRY. THE Y MC A CANNOT PICK UP CANNOT PICK UP WHERE RECREATION HAS NOT PICKED UP.

IT'S GOOD IN ALL, BUT WE NEED TO DO FOR OUR OWN. WHILE WE ARE WORRIED ABOUT THIS, UH, CASINO, WE HAVE A RECREATION CENTER ON HALIFAX STREET THAT SOMETHING SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE TO IT, AS OPPOSED TO LETTING IT GO DOWN LIKE IT IS. WE HAVE NO RECREATION DEPARTMENT. NOTHING FOR OUR CHILDREN. AND THEN YOU WONDER WHY THEY'RE SHOOTING, ROBBING AND DOING EVERYTHING ELSE OUT HERE. SO I HOPE, WITH ALL OF COUNCIL'S UNDERS GETTING THEY GET AN UNDERSTANDING THAT OUR PEOPLE PARENTS OF THOSE CHILDREN. WE'RE THE ONES WHO PUT YOU IN OFFICE. NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND. THANK YOU. NEXT WE COULD MOVE ON TO ITEM 10 BUSINESS OR REPORTS FROM THE MAYOR. OTHER

[10. Business or reports from the Mayor or other Members of City Council]

YEAH. BEFORE THAT I THE FIRST EMAIL I SENT YOU TODAY. ALL RIGHT. WELL LET'S MOVE ON. UH, MR VAN BOYS, IF YOU SEE A SECOND EMAIL FROM ME OF TODAY. WHEN I GET TO A BREAK, LET ME KNOW.

PLEASE, LET'S GO TO 1751 SHERWOOD. UH, THIS IS A BRICK HOUSE. IN WUT HILL. UM THAT I UNDERSTAND THE CITY HAS BEEN, UH DEALING WITH FOR MORE THAN A DECADE. UM I'VE BROUGHT IT TO COUNCIL'S ATTENTION AND TO THE PUBLIC'S ATTENTION BEFORE UH, I TOOK THIS PHOTOGRAPH ON SUNDAY.

UM MR VAN VOORHIES, CAN YOU GET EVEN CLOSER TO THAT ROOF LINE? ON THE GABLE END. YEAH. SEE THE HOLES IN THE ROOF NOW. WE'VE NOW GOT HOLES IN THE ROOF. UH, UH, HOW DROVE OUT SUNDAY. THINKING THIS WAS GONNA BE A HAPPY STORY, AND I WAS GONNA HAVE SOME HAPPY NEWS TO SHARE WITH THE PUBLIC.

AND I WAS DISTRAUGHT WHEN I SAW WHAT I DID. THIS HAS BEEN ON THE CITY'S OH, OK. AGENDA. AS I SAY FOR OVER A DECADE. UM THE BETTER NEWS IS THAT THE CITY HAS TAKEN IT TO COURT. UH, THE COURT DATE

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UM. THEN I WANT TO TRANSITION TO SOMETHING THAT IS NEITHER GOOD NOR BAD, BUT I THINK QUITE INTERESTING. I SPENT THREE HOURS OR SO TODAY DELIVERING FOOD FOR MEALS ON WHEELS. AND I MUST HAVE DELIVERED, UH, 10 TO 12. UH, MIDDAY MEALS. UH, I WAS GLAD TO HELP. AND IT WAS TRULY EMOTIONALLY SATISFYING FOR ME TO SEE THE GRATITUDE OF THE RESPONSE. THAT'S QUITE AN ORGANISATION. UH, MEALS ON WHEELS. IT'S I'M NOT SURE HOW IT TIES INTO FEED MORE. UH, IT MAY BE A SUBSIDIARY, BUT CERTAINLY IT WORKS WITH FEED MORE. UH, BUT IT'S QUITE AN OPERATION. AND MY HAT IS OFF TO THOSE WHO HAVE DESIGNED. IT DESIGNED THE PROGRAM AND THOSE WHO ARE DOING THE HEAVY LIFTING. THAT HAS NO GLAMOUR ATTACHED TO IT. AND FINALLY, UM, I'D LIKE TO TURN TO THE CITY MANAGER AND ASK HIM IF HE WOULD BRING COUNSEL IN THE PUBLIC. UP TO DATE ON THE STATUS OF THE CITY'S EFFORTS TO DEVISE A THREE REPLACEMENT PLAN. AS PERHAPS THE PUBLIC REMEMBERS THAT WE HAD TREES IN THE FIRST BLOCK OF SOUTH SYCAMORE STREET. AND UH, THEY CA ME DOWN WITHOUT ANY KIND OF NOTICE TO THE PUBLIC. JUST BAM! AND WE'VE BEEN SCRATCHING OUR HEADS. TO COME UP WITH A PLAN TO REPLACE THEM EVER SINCE, AND THAT'S BEEN A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO SO WE CAN DESTROY IN JUST A FEW DAYS. BUT UH, REPLACING IS A LOT MORE DIFFICULT. MR ALTMAN, WOULD YOU TELL US WHERE WE ARE ON THAT, PLEASE? SO WHEN THE TREES CAME DOWN AS A RESULT OF, UM SOME OF THE DAMAGE THAT WAS OCCURRING TO THE BUILDINGS. WE HAD RESIDENT UH, OWNERS THERE THAT WERE TRYING TO DO REPAIRS. THE REPAIRS WERE GETTING IMPEDED BY THE BY THE TREES SO BUT SINCE THEN, UH, OUR PLANNING DIRECTOR AND WE'VE HAD WE'VE MOVED FORWARD WITH AND I CAN'T REMEMBER THE NAME OF THE GRANT, BUT IT WAS REVOLVED AROUND CREATING A TREE PLAN. THEY'VE COME UP AND I THINK I'VE SEEN A COUPLE OF DESIGNS FOR THAT SECTION OF THE OF SYCAMORE. AND OTHERS WHERE YOU HAVE APPROPRIATE TYPE STREET TREES THAT WILL NOT GROW INTO BUILDINGS SO THAT WORK IS ONGOING THROUGH ON THE C OF MO AND THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT. YOU BRING A RECOMMENDATION FORWARD TO COUNCIL THROUGH THAT COMMITTEE THAT'S WORKING ON THAT. WELL I WELL, THAT'S GOOD NEWS. DID WE RECEIVE THE GRANT? OR ARE WE APPLYING FOR A GRANT? WE DID RECEIVE A GRANT FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF FORESTRY FOCUSED ON CREATING A TREE ORDINANCE, BUT OUR CONSULTANTS THROUGH THE GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE CENTER ARE ALSO SEEING VALUE IN HELPING US WITH THIS DESIGN, SO THEY'VE BEEN MAKING TIME AND CAPACITY TO HELP US WITH THIS AS WELL. SO

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IS THAT CORRECT? IT'S GONNA TRANSITION INTO A TRUE PLAN. THIS IS JUST THE INITIAL STAGE OF THE GRANT. BUT IT WILL BECOME A TREE PLAN AND A MAINTENANCE PLAN AS WELL AS A TREE PLANTING INITIATIVE. WE'RE JUST WAITING FOR THE FINAL APPROVAL FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF FORESTRY FOR THAT NEXT STAGE OF THE GRANT. BUT IT'S ANTICIPATED. AND WHEN DO YOU EXPECT, UH, WE'LL HAVE A PLAN ON COUNCIL'S DESK FOR COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION. SPECIFICALLY FOR SYCAMORE STREET. FOR THIS. DON'T KNOW THE SCOPE. I WOULD HOPE FOR THE ENTIRE CITY, BUT IT'S FOR THE ENTIRE CITY. A RE YOU INTERESTED CURRENTLY IN SYCAMORE STREET, OR ARE YOU INTERESTED IN THE ENTIRE CITY FOR BOTH? OK SO WE HAVE AN INITIAL SCOPE FOR SYCAMORE STREET THAT THEY'VE ALREADY TAKEN A LOOK AT AND COME UP WITH SOME GENERAL RECOMMENDATIONS ON THE BEST KIND OF TREE THAT YOU CAN STILL SEE THROUGH THE FOLIAGE. IT'S CALLED A SKYLINE, HONEY LOCUST. IT'S A TREE THAT EVEN IN ITS AWKWARD, SMALLER STAGE, YOU CAN STILL SEE THROUGH THE TREES AND SEE THROUGH THE LEAVES TO SEE THE BUSINESSES AND STOREFRONTS. SO THEY'RE ALREADY LOOKING AT THAT. WE JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE HAD GOOD QUALITY RENDERINGS TO SHARE WITH YOU ALL BEFORE WE BROUGHT THE IDEA TO YOU, AND THEN WHEN IT COMES TO THE PLAN AS A WHOLE, I BELIEVE IT'S THEIR GOAL WITHIN A YEAR'S TIME TO CREATE THEM PLAN AND MAINTENANCE PLAN FOLLOWED BY A YEAR FOLLOWING THAT TO, UH, START DOING IMPLEMENTATION OF TREE PLANTS, PLANTINGS AND WORKING WITH THE COMMUNITY. DO YOU THINK IT'S GONNA BE MORE THAN A YEAR FROM NOW, BEFORE WE HAVE A TREE PLAN IS THAT FOR THE ENTIRE CITY WITHIN A YEAR'S TIME? THE PIECE ON SYCAMORE. THEY'RE WORKING ON GETTING BETTER RENDERINGS TO BRING THE COUNCIL IN A SHORTER PERIOD OF TIME WITHIN THE NEXT MONTH OR TWO OVERALL CITY TREE PLANTING ORDINANCE TEST TAKING LONGER. ALL RIGHT. WELL, WOULD IT BE FAIR TO PUT THIS, UH OR TO HAVE THE EXPECTATION THAT, UH THE WORK SESSION IN JUNE. THIS YEAR WE WOULD HAVE ON OUR DESK. A PLAN FOR THAT FIRST BLOCK OF SOUTH SYCAMORE STREET. SURE. WE GONNA HAVE THAT? ABSOLUTELY ALL RIGHT. WELL, UM MISS HILL. WOULD YOU PUT THAT PLEASE? IN A MINUTE, SO THAT UH, I COULD MAKE A PHOTOCOPY OF IT AND ATTACH THE PHOTOCOPY TO MY NOTES FOR THE FIRST MEETING IN JUNE AND UH, HAVE SOMETHING SPECIFIC TO EXPECT US TO ACCOMPLISH. A T THAT FIRST MEETING MISS HILL. CAN YOU DO THAT? PLEASE? YES, SIR. THANK YOU. MR MAYOR. THAT'S IT, AND I APPRECIATE IT. THANKS ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. UM, NEXT UP, COUNCILMAN JONES.

I DON'T WANT NOBODY TO GET TO THINKING I TRYING TO RE HILLER TIME I GET UP HERE. I'M GONNA START WITH THE PARKS AND RECREATION. UM MR LYNNWOOD? UH, DEFINITELY IS A BIG PERSON IN THE COMMUNITY CARES ABOUT OUR KIDS A LOT. AND, UM BUT I GOTTA I GOTTA SET THE RECORD STRAIGHT.

UH, I LOVE MISSOURI BE TOO. ERBY WAS WAS GREAT FOR THIS CITY. AND I WANNA SAY THAT WHEN SHE WHEN MISSOURI LEFT OUR NEW PARKING RATE DIRECTOR. REALLY, REALLY, REALLY STEPPED UP TO THE PLATE.

I MEAN, I'M GONNA BE HONEST WITH YOU. I WAS OFF AS WELL. BECAUSE I SAID NEXT PERSON IN LINE TO WORK FOR THE CITY SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN A JOB. I AIN'T GOTTA HIDE. NO, I SAID THAT. BUT AFTER MEETING WITH THIS DIRECTOR AND SEEING HIS VISION AND SEEING ACTUALLY PHYSICALLY SEEING THE THINGS GOING ON IN THE CITY LET ME TELL YOU WHAT HE GOT GOING ON. SOCCER FOR THE YOUTH.

BASEBALL FOR THE YOUTH. UM BEFORE AND AFTER. SPRING CAMP SUMMER CAMP. TURNING NO FAMILIES AWAY. HE'S PUT IT OUT IN HIS SOCIAL MEDIA NEWSPAPERS. BASEBALL TOURNAMENTS. I MEAN, I I'VE EXPERIENCED THESE BASEBALL TOURNAMENTS AS PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER. NOT JUST THE STATE FROM ALL OVER COMING TO PETERSBURG, SAYING WE HAVE ONE OF THE BEST FIELDS EVER PLAYED ON THAT MADE ME FEEL GREAT. UM ALBERT JONES FOOTBALL FIELD. IN MY OPINION, IT'S AN IT'S A HISTORIC FIELD.

THAT'S WHAT PEABODY HIGH PLAYED AT. NOBODY COULD BEAT PETER PEABODY HIGH IN PETERSBURG HIGH WAS ALMOST EQUALLY. COMPETITIVE. IT WAS A TWO GREATEST THINGS IN THE STATE. BUT HE FIXED THAT

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RESPONSIBILITY LIES ON ALL OF US . IF A CHILD IN YOUR ENVIRONMENT AND YOUR CLOSE VICINITY HE'S YOUR RESPONSIBILITY. SHE'S YOUR RESPONSIBILITY. YOU DON'T HAVE TO KNOW THE MOTHER. OR THE FATHER. SO STOP SAYING IT AIN'T A DAD IN THE HOME. IT DON'T MATTER IF THE DAD IN THE HOME OR NOT. WHERE'S THE FATHERS AT IN THE STREET? WHEREAS THE FATHER THAT WHEN THEY COME PAS SO IT D.

THE HOME IS WHEN THEY LEAVE AT HOME IS WHAT INFLUENCE IS AT THE HOME. IT DOES MATTER. BUT WHO HELPED MOLD THAN THESE KIDS. WHEN WE SHOW THEM THAT WE DON'T GIVE A WE TURN OUR BACK. WE SAY I GOT MINE. YOU GOTTA GET YOURS. HE'S THE SAME ONES THAT ARE GONNA TURN UP ROBBING YOU. LATER ON. ADVISE EVERYBODY HERE TO BE RESPONSIBLE. AND GRAB WHAT? Y'ALL JUST SAY A POSITIVE WORD.

YOU DON'T GOTTA GIVE HIM NO MONEY. JUST SAY SOMETHING POSITIVE TO HIM. I'M ONE OF THOSE KIDS. A FATHER 13 YEARS OLD. WHAT ABOUT GAVE ME NO MONEY , BUT THEY GAVE ME GOOD ADVICE.

GOOD WORDS. LET ME KNOW I MEANT SOMETHING SOMEWHERE. AND IF I CAN BE SITTING UP HERE ON CITY COUNCIL AND NOT RUNNING FROM THE POLICE. THEY CAN, TOO. THEY CAN, TOO. SO WE HAVE A LOT OF PROGRA MMES GOING ON. WE HAVE TO GET THE PARENTS MOTIVATED AND ACTIVATED. AND Y'ALL KNOW A LOT OF THE PARENTS. AND IT'S A BIG CIRCLE AS THE CITY MANAGER BECAUSE A LOT OF THEM ARE BUSY WORKING FOR THE CITY. TRYING TO MAKE ENDS MEET. THIS IS WHY I'M PUSHING SO MUCH FOR MONEY. FOR THE PARENTS. IT'S A BIG CIRCLE. UM I WANT TO TALK ABOUT REAL QUICK. UH. IT. IT JUST BOTHERED ME ABOUT THIS LAST MINUTE SUBMISSION STUFF THAT WE TALKED ABOUT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING.

UM I SAID IT BEFORE BEFORE I EVEN GOT ON THE COUNCIL THAT WHEN I WORKED FOR THE CITY, I REALIZED THAT CITY DEPARTMENT IS WILL TELL THE CITY MANAGER ANYTHING. I'M NOT. I'M NOT PICKING ON ONE DEPARTMENT HEAD. I'M JUST SAYING, THIS IS WHAT I EXPERIENCED FROM BEING OUT THERE. AND BECAUSE CITY MANAGERS TRUSTED THEIR DEPARTMENT HAS HE'LL COME BACK AND GIVE US THAT INFORMATION. BECAUSE HE TRUSTED HER. WHAT I'M SAYING. A LOT OF PEOPLE, LEAVING THEM OUT TO DRY.

THEY HANGING THEM OUT TO DRY BECAUSE SOME OF THE STUFF HE TELL US OR WE SEE THE PICKING AND CHOOSING THE WORKING OF, UH JUST WANNA ASK YOU WHAT IT LOOK LIKE WHEN WE FIXING UP. WE'RE FIXING UP. UH, FELLAS, LANE AND NORTH BOULEVARD. YOU KNOW, THAT WAS THE RICH AREA OF THE CITY AT ONE TIME AND BUT WE'RE NEGLECTING BANK BOWLING BROOK. AND WEST STREET. I JUST WANNA ASK THE MANAGER TAKE THE CHARGE ON THIS THING, MAN AND DO WHAT YOU GOTTA DO. TO MAKE SURE THE BET. SO NOBODY ELSE GOTTA COME UP HERE AND SAY WE'RE NOT DOING WHAT WE SAID WE WAS GONNA DO, YOU KNOW. JUST DO IT. THAT'S ALL WE GOTTA DO. UM. ONE MORE THING, UM IT'S GOOD TO HEAR THE COUNCIL MENTION POLICIES AND PROCEDURES UP HERE TONIGHT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE STICK BY THEM ALL THE TIME. IN EVERY DEPARTMENT IN EVERY ATMOSPHERE. UH ONE THING THAT'S BOTHERED ME, MR MAYOR AND CITY MANAGER AND COUNCIL. WE TALKED ABOUT PERMITS AND THINGS LIKE THAT RIGHT? AND

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SOMETIMES IT'S UNDER. I UNDERSTAND NOW, THAT'S ALL I GOT. UM THANK YOU. UM, THANK YOU, UH, MR MAYOR. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. YEAH, PRETTY GOOD. YOU GOT A CLOCK? THERE WE GO. THERE WE GO. WE? I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO THE CLOCK. EVERYBODY, EVERYBODY ALRIGHT CASPER WESTBROOK. ALRIGHT, THIS IS WHAT I DO, CAUSE I TEACH SPEECH AND DEBATE, SO I'LL TAKE FIVE MINUTES. LET ME KNOW WHEN IT START, GARY. ALL RIGHT. I'M GONNA TAKE IT THOUGH.

ALL RIGHT, UM, I'M GONNA QUICKLY SAY, UH, WELCOME, EVERYBODY. THANK Y'ALL FOR COMING BACK OUT TO THIS, UH, MEETING. UM I'M A SECOND MI, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER JONES. MR CHRISTIAN AS WELL.

WE'RE SAYING THAT, UH, OUR PARKS AND REC MAN, UH, DIRECTOR, MR MARQUIS ALLEN IS DOING A VERY GOOD JOB. UM SO JUST TO GIVE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT MR JONES HAS ALREADY SAID, BUT, UH, THE PETERSBURG REC DEPARTMENT WILL BE HOSTING THE SECOND ANNUAL CENTRAL VIRGINIA. SPORTS COALITION BASKETBALL TOURNAMENT OVER 20 YOUTH TEAMS FROM SURROUNDING LOCALITIES WILL BE PRESENT BE PARTICIPATING, UM, AND TO PLEASE COME OUT AND SUPPORT THE PETERSBURG YOUTH THAT ARE PARTICIPATING THIS FRIDAY AND SATURDAY AGAIN THIS FRIDAY AND SATURDAY AT VERNON JOHNS MIDDLE SCHOOL AND PETERSBURG HIGH SCHOOL AGAIN STICKING WITH THAT PARKS AND REC, UH, THEME. UM I LIKE WHAT HE'S DONE WITH THE TENNIS COURTS AT UH, NOW LEGENDS FI STILL SOMETIMES WANT TO CALL IT LEGENDS PARK RIGHT? STILL SOMETIMES WANNA CALL IT PART.

UH, BUT THE GIRLS TENNIS TEAM FROM THE HIGH SCHOOL HAD THEIR MATCH THERE ON THE NEWLY REFURBISHED, UH, LEGEND PARK TENNIS COURTS. UH, BECAUSE THERE ARE NEW NETS AND NEW POLES ON OUR WINDSCREEN IS COMING. SO IF YOU EVER RIDE BY THERE, YOU SEE THE GREAT THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON AT THE PARK THAT IS CONNECTED TO WAR. SEVEN. UM TO ALSO SECOND THE SPRING BREAK. UH APRIL 1ST THROUGH THE FOURTH SPRING BREAK CAMP. UM WITH THAT WE'LL HAVE BEFORE AND AFTER CARE, SO I KNOW A LOT OF PARENTS ARE LOOKING FOR WITH THEIR STUDENTS WILL BE DOING, UH, WITH THEIR YOUTH WILL BE DOING IN THE NEXT, UH, TWO WEEKS, SO THERE IS THE AFTER AND BEFORE CARE FOR THE ACTUAL CAMP ITSELF. AS WELL AS THE SOCCER AND BASKETBALL. YOUTH REGISTRATION IS STILL ONGOING, SO YOU CAN'T GET YOUR YOUR KIDS THERE. AND OF COURSE, THERE ARE SOFTBALL TOURNAMENTS, BASKETBALL LEAGUE ADULT BASKETBALL LEAGUE. SO, UH, I THINK MR ALLEN IS A ROCK STAR AGAIN. MAYBE IT'S HARD TO COMPARE HIM TO MISS YERBY. BUT I TALKED TO MISS YERBY AS WELL AND HOPEFULLY SHE WILL COSIGN THAT HE'S DOING A GREAT JOB WITH WHAT HE'S DOING. HOPEFULLY WE CAN GIVE HIM MORE SUPPORT IN THE UPCOMING UH, BUDGET CYCLE. UH, MOVING ON. UM, I'M ALWAYS AGAIN ABOUT THE YOUTH. I STICK WITH THAT THAT WAS ONE OF MY CAMPAIGN PROMISES IS TO KEEP, UH, FOCUS ON THE YOUTH OF PETERSBURG. SOMETIMES THEY MIGHT FEEL LIKE THEY DON'T HAVE A VOICE. BUT I REALLY THINK THAT THEY DO. THEY JUST HAVE TO GET OUT THERE, AND ONE OF THE WAYS IS THROUGH THE PETERSBURG

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SO I, I DO AGREE WITH THAT. I DID TALK TO COUNCILMAN COUPLER EARLY THIS MORNING. I THOUGHT HE WAS GONNA BRING IT UP IN HIS IN HIS DIALOGUE, BUT WE HAD ALL WE ALREADY THERE. UH, MISS, UH, RUDOLPH. WE HAD ALREADY SPOKEN ABOUT THAT. WE JUST GOT TO GET WITH THE MAYOR AND SEE WHAT'S THE VISIBLE TIME FOR ALL OF COUNCIL SO THAT WE ALL CAN SEE AND ALL ALL OF US ACT UM AND III . I KIND OF WANTED TO BE MORE RELAXED. UH, IF WE DO IT SO WE CAN, YOU KNOW, FEEL AT EASE, AND WE ASK ALL THE QUESTIONS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE, UH, VERY QUICKLY. UH, UH, SPORTS COMPLEX AND WE HAVE A POTENTIAL, UM, BASEBALL TEAM THAT MAY BE COMING TO THE AREA, BUT I WANNA UH THANK UH MR J. JAMIE FAGAN, THE UH, DIRECTOR OF THE GOLF COURSE, BECAUSE HE AND HIS TEAM HAVE BEEN THE ONE WHO'D BEEN KEEPING THAT UP ALONG WITH MARQUIS ALLEN AND HIS VISION, SO I WANT TO THANK THE CITY MANAGER AND THEM FOR KEEPING THOSE THINGS UP. UM AND I JUST WANNA ADMONISH OUR CITIZENS THAT YOU KNOW, WE ALWAYS CAN SAY SOMETHING NEGATIVE. I MEAN NEGATIVE IS EVERYWHERE ELSE. BUT LET'S TRY TO FOCUS ON THE POSITIVE. WE HAVE A LOT OF MOMENTUM. WE HAVE A LOT OF STEAM. A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE LOOKING AT. A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE MOVING TO THE CITY. A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE ARE. YOU KNOW PETERSBURG IS HOT AND WE WANNA KEEP THIS TRAIN ROLLING. THIS IS NOT WHAT WE WAS GOING THROUGH. BACK IN 2016. WE'VE COME A LONG WAY. OUR OUR FINANCIAL. UH UH, ADVISORS. THEY HAVE TOLD US THAT WE HAVE COME BACK LEAPS AND BOUNDS AND YOU KNOW, AND I DO WANT FOR THIS COUNCIL AND I SAY THIS WOULD ALL DUE RESPECT. WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL. BECAUSE I GOT SOME PHONE CALLS ABOUT SOME THINGS WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT WHEN WE TALK. TO POTENTIAL INVESTORS COMING TO THE COUNCIL MEETING, AND WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL HOW THE WAY WE TALK TO

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BUT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT SOME OF THE WAYS THAT WE TALK TO ONE ANOTHER. I MEAN, THE OLD ME WILL ASK YOU TO STEP OUTSIDE. WE GOTTA BE CAREFUL HOW THE WAY WE TALK TO INDIVIDUALS. YOU KNOW, AND WE MAY NOT ALWAYS AGREE. BUT WHEN WE ARE UP ON THIS DIET UP HERE, AND WE'RE TALKING TO INDIVIDUALS, AND I WANT US TALKING DOWN AT PEOPLE NOT SAYING DID IT HAPPEN TODAY, BUT I JUST WANNA LET US TURN DOWN THE TEMPERATURE A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE WE GOT GREAT THINGS GOING AND BELIEVE ME, INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE OUTSIDE OF HERE THEY WATCH OUR MEETINGS.

THEY HEAR EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON. THEY KNOW WHO THE PLAYERS ARE. THEY KNOW WHO WHO GONNA STAND UP ON THINGS. THEY KNOW ALL THOSE THINGS. SO LET'S TRY TO TURN IN THE TEMPERATURE.

LET'S FOCUS ON THE POSITIVE AND NOT ALWAYS THE NEGATIVE ALL IS ENOUGH NEGATIVE TO GO AROUND, AND IT'S NEGATIVE EVERYWHERE. NOT JUST IN PETERSBURG BUT EVERYWHERE. THANK YOU, MR MAYOR.

MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, UM NEXT. UM I JUST WANTED TO, UH, REM REMIND EVERYBODY WE HAVE A BIG WEEKEND, COMING UP THE FIRST WEEKEND IN IN APRIL WITH DONNA MATRIX WEEKEND. WE HAVING THE GALA HERE FRIDAY. AT THE PETERSBURG LIBRARY. AND THEN UM, HE HAS HIS HUGE WORKOUT EVENT AT, UM PETERSBURG HIGH SCHOOL, SO JUST WANNA ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO, UM TAKE PART. ALSO WE HAVE THE PETERSBURG HALF MARATHON IN FIVE K, WHICH IS ALSO THAT SAME WEEKEND THAT SATURDAY, APRIL 6TH. UM AND I WANNA THANK EVERYBODY. WHO CA ME OUT TODAY FOR THE, UM FOR THE GOOD OR TRUCK. BRING A GROCERIES HERE TO THE CITY OF PETERSBURG. UM, IT'S JUST THE FIRST STEPS OF US GETTING OUR, UM ANOTHER UH, BRICK AND MORTAR GROCER HERE IN THE CITY. UM ALSO, I JUST LIKE TO, UM TO, UH, JUST SAY THAT II. I FIND IT QUITE HUMBLING THAT PEOPLE ARE VERY INTERESTED IN WHAT WE DO. AND UM, MY METROPOLITAN TRANSIT MEETING.

YOU KNOW, I. I AM CHAIR OF THAT MEETING AND WE MEET WITH V DOT AND, UM, OUR STATE PARTNERS ABOUT THESE THINGS IS GOOD TO BE ABLE TO HAVE INTEREST IN THE THINGS WE DO AT, UH, CREATOR MP O WITH DRPT AND DARIUS MASON AND I ARE THE REPRESENTATIVES OF THE CITY. AND UM, IT IS QUITE INTERESTING THAT PEOPLE WANT TO STILL SEE THESE THESE THINGS THAT ARE APP PRELIMINARY FOR V 0.12 HAVE MORE DISCUSSION ABOUT IT, SO IT WAS QUITE QUITE HUMBLING. UM NEXT, WITH MY FEW MINUTES I HAVE I DEFER SOME TIME FOR COUNCILMAN CUTHBERT AND FOR COUNCILMAN JONES FOR SOME THINGS. THANK YOU, MR MAYOR. UH, I WANT TO REVISIT THE TOPIC OF THE STARS PRESENTATION THAT IS THE VIDEO T STUDY DEALING WITH UH, CHANGES TO WASHINGTON STREET AND WITH STREET UH AND EQUALLY AND PERHAPS MUCH MORE IMPORTANT, UH, THE INTERSTATE SYSTEM THAT WE ARE BLESSED WITH HAVING COME THROUGH PETERSBURG IN MY VIEW, AND I THINK, IN THE VIEW OF ALL OF US THERE'S HUGE ECONOMIC POTENTIAL. OUT THERE. THAT COULD WE COULD TAP WITH THIS STARS PROJECT. UM AND SO I'VE TALKED TO THE, UM TO THE MAYOR AND TO THE CITY MANAGER AND TO MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. AND WE ARE WORKING TOWARD HAVING A SPECIAL MEETING. OF COUNCIL. UM A T, WHICH, UM, THE STARS. UH, PROFESSIONALS WILL PRESENT AND THE PUBLIC AND COUNCIL WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ASK QUESTIONS AND EXCHANGE THOUGHTS. EXPLORE ALTERNATIVES. EXPLORE POSSIBILITIES. I THINK THIS HAS GOT A GIGANTIC POTENTIAL. I CAN'T. I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH OF THAT POTENTIAL WE WILL BE ABLE TO ACHIEVE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE BUDGET IS. THAT WE COULD HOPE TO SEE SPENT. UH, MY VISION. IS THAT THE SKY IS THE LIMIT. AND THAT, UH, WE COULD SHOOT FOR A CLOVER LEAF. A WHERE WASHINGTON CROSSES I 95 AND WHERE UH, CRATER GOES UNDERNEATH AND 95. I THINK THAT WOULD ELECTRIFY COMMERCE IN PETERSBURG. AND UH, GIVE THAT NORTH SOUTH TRAFFIC. THAT RARELY STOPS IN PETERSBURG. GIVE THAT NORTH SOUTH TRAFFIC A REASON TO STOP IN PETERSBURG CREATE JOBS CREATE ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY HERE IN THIS CITY, SO I THANK THE MAYOR. I THANK THE CITY MANAGER. I THANK ALL OF COUNCIL. FOR, UM

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WE'D LIKE TO BUT WE'VE GOT TO COORDINATE THE SCHEDULING WITH THE WITH THE, UH, CALENDAR OF THE VIDEO T PEOPLE. SO AS SOON AS THAT'S DONE OH, WE'RE GONNA HAVE THAT SPECIAL MEETING. I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO IT. IT MAY BE THE F IT MAY NOT BE THE ONLY SPECIAL MEETING. A T, WHICH WE ADDRESS THIS. THIS IS A HUGE, HUGE OPPORTUNITY FOR US, AND WE NEED TO EXPLORE EVERY OPPORTUNITY FOR MAXIMIZING THAT POTENTIAL, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. COUNCILMAN JONES.

YEAH. YOU KNOW, AS YOU GET OLDER. YOU TALK REAL SLOW. AS IF TIME GONNA SLOW UP. THANK YOU FOR MR JOHN FOR TAKING UP MOST OF THAT TIME. UM NO SPEED CAMERAS. I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR MAYOR FOR GIVING ME A FEW SECONDS TO SPEAK . I WAS GONNA DO IT AT THE NEXT GO ROUND. BUT THE SPEED CAMERAS DREW WO WORK BECAUSE THERE'S NOT A UH, PERSONAL, A GENERAL ASSEMBLY. THEY GOT TO TAKE IT BY ITSELF. I KNOW A COUNCILMAN. A GOT ONE. TWO. MY GOD DO IT, YOU KNOW, BUT WE'RE GOOD. UH, THEY WORK. WORK TOO MUCH IF YOU ASK ME, THEY WORK. UM REAL QUICK. UM Y'ALL REMEMBER WHO I WAS WHEN I WAS DOWN THERE, RIGHT, EVERYBODY REMEMBER? AND THIS IS THE SA ME.

DOES UP HERE THAT WAS DOWN THERE. AND MY MISSION WAS TO MAKE SURE THAT I DIDN'T CHANGE WHO I WAS BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE PEOPLE VOTED FOR. THIS ME? MARLO. CAUSE I SPOKE WITH THEM, AND I REALLY ADMIRE EVERYBODY UP HERE. NOBODY'S UP HERE IS EQUAL IN KNOWLEDGE, SKILLS AND ABILITY . NOBODY THAT'S WHY WE TEACH EACH OTHER. WE LEARN FROM EACH OTHER. WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BUT WHEN IT COMES TO TALKING TO PEOPLE AT THIS POINT, BECAUSE WHAT I SAW DOWN THERE IS SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN WHAT I'M SEEING FROM UP HERE. AND I SEE PEOPLE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF OUR PEOPLE IN THIS CITY. I SEE CERTAIN DEVELOPERS. UH UH UH, MISHANDLING, MISUSING AND COMING UP HERE WITH SOME CRAP. I DON'T CARE WHO THEY ARE. I DON'T OWE THEM NOTHING. THEY DON'T OWE ME NOTHING, BUT THEY'RE NOT GONNA COME TO THIS CITY AND HALF STEP. IT'S JUST THAT DOG ON S. IF THEY FEEL LIKE I'M TALKING DOWN ON THEM, THEN TOO BAD. PUT A PEP ON WHEN YOU COME UP HERE. YOU KNOW, ALL RIGHT, GUYS WITH JOS. WE WILL LEAVE IT AT THAT WE'LL IN THE IN THE COMMENT FROM CITY COUNCILS ON THAT WE APPRECIATE YOU. ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT. YEAH, BUT WE'LL HOLD IT. ALL RIGHT.

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[12. Finance and Budget Report]

[13. Unfinished Business]

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SO ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE, YOU'LL SEE THE CURRENT PLANS. SO FOR INSTANCE, 100 AND $31 PER PAY FOR AN EMPLOYEE ONLY AT THE TOP OF THE COLUMN THAT EQUATES TO 6550 RIGHT NOW IS THE CURRENT COST FOR AN EMPLOYEE ONLY. AT THE BOTTOM. THERE, YOU'LL SEE 9 66 80 FOR THAT, UH, 500.

DEDUCTIBLE PLAN THAT EQUATES TO 483 ON A, UM, ON A PER PAY BASIS TO COVER A FAMILY. UM WHAT YOU'LL SEE IS IN THIS OPTION. UM OPTION A. THE TOTAL INCREASE TO THE CITY WOULD BE 440,510 OR 11.2% INCREASE NOW. ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, YOU'LL SEE THE PROPOSED UPDATED CONTRIBUTIONS WHERE WE'VE LOWERED SIGNIFICANTLY THE COST TO EMPLOYEES AND, UH, THE COST TO COVER DEPENDENT. AND SO, FOR INSTANCE, UM, WITH THE 500 PLAN. THAT COSTS WOULD GO FROM 131. TO $90.40 SO 4520 HER PAY FOR THE $500 PLAN. UM AND THE COST TO COVER A FAMILY ON THAT PLAN WOULD BE, UH 551 50 OR $275. PER PAY. SO GOING FROM 483 TO 275 FOR A PRETTY RICH PLAN, UM AND THAT'S THAT'S ON EITHER SIDE OF THAT SPECTRUM. CERTAINLY THERE'S THE EMPLOYEE PLUS ONE THAT IS ALSO SIGNIFICANTLY LOWERED. BUT IN THIS SCENARIO, YOU KEEP THE SAME PLAN OPTIONS AS YOU. YOU HAVE CURRENTLY THE $500 DEDUCTIBLE AND THE $1000 DEDUCTIBLE, BUT YOU CHANGE THE CONTRIBUTIONS TO LOWER THE COST IN THE CITY WOULD ABSORB THE 440,000 ROUGH. DOLLARS NOW, ONE THING THAT WE WANNA CAVEAT HERE IS THAT OBVIOUSLY, IF WE ARE WE MADE SOME. THIS IS BASED ON YOUR CURRENT ENROLLMENT. BUT IF WE HAVE IF YOU LOWER THE EMPLOYEE OR THE EMPLOYER EMPLOYEE COST FOR COVERING DEPENDENCE, YOU MAY HAVE MORE FOLKS THAT COME ON TO THE PLAN. SO THERE COULD BE A 10 . YOU KNOW, IT'S HARD TO PREDICT, BUT MAYBE A 10 TO 15% SWING. YOU KNOW WITH ADDITIONAL FOLKS, BUT THAT WOULD BE CERTAINLY MORE MONEY FOR THE CITY. BUT IT WOULD BE GREAT FROM AN ATTRACTING AND RETAINING OF TALENT. SO I DO WANT TO SAY THAT THAT THESE ARE THESE ARE THE NUMBERS AS IT STANDS TODAY. OPTION B. THE NEXT PAGE IS KEEPING THIS THE TLC PLANS THE SAME SO THE $500 DEDUCTIBLE PLAN AND THE $1000 DEDUCTIBLE PLAN. UM, BUT MOVING IT TO A FIVE TIER STRUCTURE. OK, SO WHEN YOU HAVE EMPLOYEE EMPLOYEE PLUS ONE UM, SO WHEN YOU HAVE THE THREE TIER STRUCTURE EMPLOYEE PLUS ONE TENDS TO BE MORE EXPENSIVE BECAUSE EMPLOYEE PLUS ONE CAN BE EMPLOYEE PLUS A SPOUSE OR EMPLOYEE PLUS A CHILD. THE COST OF COVERING A CHILD IS SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER. THEN THE COST OF COVERING A SPOUSE, BUT THEY'RE ASSUMING THAT THAT PERSON COULD BE A SPOUSE OR A CHILD. SO IT TENDS TO THAT EMPLOYEE PLUS ONE CATEGORY TENDS TO BE MORE EXPENSIVE. SO UM THIS OPTION AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT WHY, BUT THIS THIS OPTION WOULD BE OUR RECOMMENDATION, UM, TO MOVE TO A 55 TIER STRUCTURE, UM, IN WHICH YOU'LL SEE IS, UH, ALSO, AS IN, UH, OPTION A SIGNIFICANTLY LOWERING THE COST OF COVERING DEPENDENCE ON THIS ONE. BUT EVEN FOR EMPLOYEE ONLY ALSO CUTTING CUTTING COSTS FOR THEM SO AGAIN, UM, THE $500 DEDUCTIBLE PLAN FOR A FOR AN EMPLOYEE PLUS EMPLOYEE ONLY IS 100 AND 31. PER MONTH GOING TO $90.40 OR 4520. UM AND ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE SPECTRUM THERE , 9 66 84, A FULL FAMILY WOULD BE 314. UNDER THIS MODEL, YOU KNOW, PER PER PAYCHECK. UM THE FIVE THE $1000 DEDUCTIBLE PLAN IS EVEN LESS EXPENSIVE. THAN THAT, BECAUSE IT'S A HIGHER DEDUCTIBLE. SO FOR THE EMPLOYEE ONLY IT'S 100 AND $15 A MONTH CURRENTLY GOING TO 4295 TO BE ON THE $1000 DEDUCTIBLE PLAN. UM THAT'S A PER PAY OF 2175. THE FAMILY COST WOULD GO FROM $910 ON THAT PLAN TO $554 OR 270. PER

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UM AND $1000 DEDUCTIBLE OPTIONS, UM, REDUCING THE EMPLOYEE CONTRIBUTIONS BY PLAN AND TIER.

UH, AS WE'VE PROPOSED, BUT ALSO SHIFTING TO THAT FIVE TIER RATE STRUCTURE. AND SO AS I MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, HAVING AN EMPLOYEE THAT WANTS TO COVER THEMSELVES AND YOU KNOW MULTIPLE CHILDREN RIGHT NOW THEY HAVE TO DO THE FULL FAMILY. PREMIUM THIS WOULD ALLOW THEM TO DO EMPLOYEE PLUS CHILDREN. UM YOU KNOW AN EMPLOYEE THAT JUST WANTS TO COVER THEM, PLUS ONE OTHER UH, THEY DON'T HA. THEY CAN CHOOSE THE EMPLOYEE PLUS CHILD, WHICH WILL BE LESS EXPENSIVE THAN THE EMPLOYEE PLUS ONE. SO UM, THAT WOULD BE OUR RECOMMENDATION TO GO WITH AND AS I MENTIONED, I THINK THAT THAT'S A, UH INCREASED COST OF UH, 429,000. $50. OK THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. THE RECOMMENDATION NEXT I HAVE QUESTIONS FOR MEMBERS OF COUNCIL VICE MAYOR HILL. YES, UM I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ARE EVER TRY TO EVEN FIGURE THIS OUT. UM IS THERE ANYTHING IN THE INSURANCE WHERE THE ASSURANCE WELL, LET'S SAY WHEN OUR EMPLOYEES THEY WILL GET A CARD FOR THEIR UP TO LIKE $5000 FOR THEIR MEDICATION FOR THE YEAR AND WE HAVE WE YOU TALKING ABOUT, LIKE A HEALTH REIMBURSEMENT ACCOUNT CARD WITH WILL HELP. UM THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE'VE EXPLORED WITH THESE PLANS BECAUSE THEY HAVE RELATIVELY LOW DEDUCTIBLES.

TYPICALLY, WE SEE THAT, COUPLED WITH YOU KNOW A HIGHER DEDUCTIBLE PLAN, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN ABSOLUTELY EXPLORE. OK AND HOW SOON MR. UH UH, MR MARS DO WE NEED TO MAKE THIS DECISION. SO WE HAVE A RENEWAL DATE OF I BELIEVE, APRIL 1ST APRIL APRIL 1ST IS WHEN THE LOCAL CHOICE NEEDS AND WE HAD THIS CONVERSATION ABOUT LOOKING AT A HIGH DEDUCTIBLE PLAN. UH, WHEN WE MET, UH, WITH HR, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE EXPERIENCED, WE'VE INTRODUCED THAT PLAN KIND OF DURING THE OPEN RENEWAL PROCESS IS THERE'S A LOT OF ANXIETY ON BEHALF OF THE EMPLOYEES BECAUSE IT'S SOMETHING BRAND NEW. IT'S OUTSIDE OF KIND OF THE TRADITIONAL COPAY HEALTH INSURANCE THAT YOU HAVE SO WE TALKED ABOUT THAT DAY WAS HAVING SOME EDUCATIONAL SESSIONS LEADING UP TO NEXT YEAR AND THEN LOOKING AT INTRODUCING THAT THAT HIGH DEDUCTIBLE PLAN SO WE COULD EASE OUR EMPLOYEES TO UNDERSTANDING WHAT IT IS. I'VE BEEN A PART OF, UH, AN EFFORT WHERE DURING OPEN RENEWAL, WE INTRODUCED IT, AND, UH, MANAGEMENT TRIED TO PUSH EVERYBODY THAT WAY. AND THERE WAS A LOT OF PUSHBACK. SO I WOULD LIKE TO PERSONALLY AND YOU KNOW, JUST EDUCATE OUR EMPLOYEES AND GET THEM COMFORTABLE WITH IT BEFORE WE ROLL THAT OUT, AND WE WOULD LOOK TO ROLL THAT OUT NEXT YEAR AS A THIRD OPTION. OK? ALSO, UM IS THERE ANY WAY? AND THIS IS GREAT. I MEAN, BY THE WAY, THANK YOU. IS THERE ANY WAY? AS A CITY. THAT WE COULD DO MORE. TO LESSEN THAT CAUSE BUDGET WISE. IS THERE ANYWAY? I MEAN, I'M JUST ASKING SO ABSOLUTELY. SO WHEN WE MET LAST TIME, I THINK IT WAS COUNCILOR JONES THAT INDICATED THAT THERE WAS A $570,000 SOLUTION ON THE TABLE TO MAKE HEALTH INSURANCE

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EACH BUDGET YEAR. IF YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT MORE, WE CAN I DON'T WANNA I DON'T WANT US TO TAKE TOO BIG OF A BITE OFF THE APPLE BECAUSE WE GOT OTHER NEEDS THAT ARE OUT THERE. WE GOT A CLASS IN COMP STUDY THAT WE KNOW WE'RE GONNA NEED SOME FUNDING FOR WE GOT SOME OTHER PROJECTS THAT WE KNOW WE'RE GONNA WANNA DO. UH, COUNCILOR J, UH, JAMES MENTIONED PAVING STREETS. THAT'S ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS A MILE. WE DOING A LOT OF THAT RIGHT NOW. SEE WE GOT A LOT OF THINGS. SO I THINK THIS IS AN EXCELLENT STEP AND ALMOST REDUCES PARTICULARLY FOR OUR EMPLOYEES ON THAT FAMILY PLAN, NOT QUITE IN HALF, BUT ALMOST THERE, WHICH IS THAT SIGNIFICANT, SO AS LONG AS CERTAIN I'LL SAY THIS, I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE WANTING TO DO MORE. UM I THINK WE COULD STEP IT IN. OK, SO WE ARE DOING MORE NOW. BUT AND THEN, AS THE YEARS GO, WE CAN PROBABLY DO A LITTLE BIT MORE DOWN THE LINE. AB OK, YEAH, AND I AND I, I THINK WHAT OUR WHAT OUR GOAL WOULD BE IS TO, UM AND WE'VE STARTED TO DEVELOP THAT WITH, UH, MR ALTMAN AND HIS, UH, HIS HR TEAM IS REALLY A STRATEGIC PLAN OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS. SO TO MR ALTMAN'S POINT, THIS IS A GOOD FIRST STEP. UM WHAT OUR PLAN IS, IS TO DO MAJOR EDUCATION AROUND, UH, HEALTH SAVINGS ACCOUNTS AND HIGH DEDUCTIBLES BECAUSE TO HIS POINT . THOSE COULD BE VERY SCARY WHEN YOU GO FROM A $500 DEDUCTIBLE TO A $4000 DEDUCTIBLE. THAT TAKES A LITTLE BIT OF PLANNING. UM AND WE WANT TO EDUCATE FOLKS, UM, BECAUSE THEY'LL THEY'LL LOOK AT THE PREMIUM AMOUNT AND THEY'LL SEE IT SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER. UM BUT WE DON'T WANT THAT TO BE A SHOCK WHEN THEY GO TO USE IT BECAUSE IT IT WORKS SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT. YOU DON'T HAVE A COPAY. YOU HAVE TO PAY EVERYTHING UP TO THE DEDUCTIBLE, YOU KNOW, AND THERE'S CERTAINLY THERE'S A LOT OF ADVANTAGES THERE BECAUSE THEY CAN SAY PRE TAX IN THE HEALTH SAVINGS ACCOUNT. UM AND SO WHAT WE LOOK AT FOR NEXT YEAR IS A STRATEGY WHERE WE COUPLE, YOU KNOW, A HIGHER DEDUCTIBLE AND MAYBE CAN MAKE AN HS A CONTRIBUTION OR WE CAN LOOK AT, YOU KNOW THINGS ALONG THOSE LINES, SO THIS IS JUST KIND OF THE FIRST STEP IN IN KIND OF A MULTIYEAR PROCESS. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. UM, I REMEMBER WHAT? UH COUNCILMAN JONES SAID THE LAST MEETING. SO UM, THE CITY MANAGER CAN CAN YOU JUST BUILD INTO NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET? WHAT THAT COST WOULD BE IF WE DECIDED TO TAKE ON THAT COST. OF, UM OF THE EMPLOYEES INSURANCE COSTS AND THEN BAIL OUT WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE IF WE TAKE ON HALF OF THAT COST INTO THIS INTO THIS NEXT BUDGET. WITH THE NUMBER WILL BE FOR THE UPCOMING YEAR IF WE IF WE GO WITH OPTION B, SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION BY APRIL, 1ST ON HOW WE WANT TO DO IT. AND WE GO WITH THIS OPTION RIGHT NOW. THAT'S THE 249 , WHICH IS LESS THAN THE WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO, WHICH WAS THE 570 SOME CHANGE, AND THEN WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK AT AS WE MOVE FORWARD IN EACH BUDGET YEAR. HOW DO WE WANT TO DO THIS AND WHAT WE CAN BUILD IN TO ADDRESS ANY INCREASES WHILE WE TAKE INTO ACCOUNT ANY INCREASES WE GET IN OUR PREMIUM OVERALL PREMIUM COST? SO THIS YEAR WITH A 0% INCREASE IN OUR PREMIUM, IT'S AN IDEAL MOMENT TO REDUCE SOME OF THAT COST ON OUR ON OUR EMPLOYEES. RIGHT, SO CAN YOU GIVE US THAT NUMBER AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE WITH THIS OPTION , B. SO WITH WITH OPTION B, IT'S WOULD BE AN INCREASE OF COST TO US. OF $249,050. 404 $129,050 WOULD BE THE INCREASED CITY COST THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO PUT INTO THE BUDGET. TO MAKE OPTION B WORK. OK? THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN JONES. WELL, I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE YOU GOING BACK AND FINDING THAT MONEY. SHARPENING THE PENCIL. WE APPRECIATE THAT MAN. MR. THE MANAGER. WE APPRECIATE IT, MAN. UH, ANY SAVINGS TO THE EMPLOYEES WOULD DEFINITELY INCREASE MORALE AND BETTER FAMILY LIFE, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES WE GOTTA TAKE THAT CHANCE WE GOTTA WE GOTTA TAKE A CHANCE AND PUSH AND PUSH HARDER TO FIND. THAT THAT MEETING MEANT TO WHERE PEOPLE ARE MOTIVATED.

TO JUST BE HEALTHIER. SO I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU. FOR THAT. I HONESTLY, UM YOU ANSWER MY QUESTION. SO I APPRECIATE THAT, TOO. SO EVERYBODY FOUND THE MONEY. GIVE THEM A HAND. Y'ALL.

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I MOVE THAT WE SELECT OPTION B FOR OUR OUR PLAN FOR OUR INSURANCE POLICY. ALL RIGHT.

COUNCILMAN JONES, A SECOND. ALL RIGHT. A T THIS TIME IT HERE. COULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL COUNCIL MEMBER CUTT. COUNCIL MEMBER JONES COUNCIL MEMBER MYERS COUNCIL MEMBER WESTBROOK, COUNCIL MEMBER SMITH AND LEE VICE MAYOR HULL MAYOR. SO THE MOTION HERE MAYOR ON BEHALF OF THIS EMPLOYEES, I'D LIKE TO THANK COUNSEL FOR YOUR ACTION THIS EVENING AND ONE DIGITAL FOR THEIR ALL THEIR HARD WORK. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. N HR. AND YES, AND IT, UH BACK THERE? YES. BACK IN THE BACK. ALRIGHT. NEXT. WE ARE, UH, MOVE RIGHT ON TO ITEM 14 NEW BUSINESS. UM ITEM. B. WE

[14. New Business]

I'LL GET TO PUT THAT UP. THE PREVIOUS MEETING. WE WERE ASKED TO BRING FORWARD SOME OF THE REQUIREMENTS AGAIN. THESE ARE FROM PEOPLE REQUESTING TO BUY PROPERTY FROM THE CITY. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. OK? UM PRIOR TO ME COMING ON BOARD, THERE HAD BEEN A ORDINANCE PASSED IN REFERENCE OF ANYTHING THAT WAS BROUGHT TO YOU. AT LEAST HAVE A MINIMUM. OF 50% OF THE ASSESSED VALUE. PROBABLY I CAME IN ABOUT FEBRUARY OF 22 ABOUT JUNE. THAT WAS APPLIED TO THE GOV DEALS.

AUCTION SYSTEM. ABOUT SIX MONTHS. AFTER THAT, WE MOVED AWAY FROM USING GOV DEALS TO A NEW PROCESS. THERE WAS NO VARIATION OF THE PARTICULAR CITY OWNED PROPERTIES AT THAT POINT, SO I PUT A LIST HERE. YOU CAN SEE THAT. NO. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THE CURRENT PROCESS NOW IS A LETTER OF INTENT IS SENT TO THE DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FOR CONSIDERATION.

WE EVALUATED ON THE CRITERIA. IF IT MEETS THOSE CRITERIA, BASELINE REQUIREMENTS. WE BRING THAT TO CITY COUNCIL AND CLOSE SESSION. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. OK? BASED UPON THE CLOSED SESSION GUIDANCE SINCE IT AFFECTS THE A BARGAINING POSITION OF THE CITY. WE PUT THAT UP THERE, AND THAT'S TAKEN FROM A CLOSED SESSIONS. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. IF THERE'S A SUPPORT TO MOVE FORWARD, WE BRING THE LOY OUT FROM CLOSED SESSION. IT GOES ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. WE PREPARE THAT DOCUMENTS FOR YOU AND IT GOES PUBLIC, AND IT'S ON THE CONSENT FOR TWO UM TO PRINTINGS. AND AGAIN THAT IS FOR A PUBLIC HEARING. AFTER THE PUBLIC THE HEARING IS CONDUCTED. COUNSEL MAKES THEIR DECISION ON THE SUBMITTED PROPOSAL. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT WE CLEAR THAT AREN'T BROUGHT BEFORE YOU. WE HAVE REQUESTS FOR FREE LAND AND BUILDINGS SUBMITS FOR $1 OR LESS THAN A $50. WE'VE HAD A REQUEST FOR A PERSONAL UNSECURED LOANS FOR DEVELOPMENT OF PROPERTY. WE REJECT THOSE AND REQUESTS FOR THE CITY TO PAY ALL PRE DEVELOPMENT COSTS. SO YOU SEE THE ONE? MAYBE I BRING TWO OR THREE TO YOU. YOU DON'T SEE THE EIGHT OR NINE THAT I DON'T BRING TO YOU SO PROCESS THAT HAS BEEN WORKING. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. WE'VE ALSO HAD REQUESTS FOR THE CITY TO PAY 100% OF ALL UTILITY HOOKUPS AND CONNECTION FEES. UH, SUBMITS FOR 14 OR LESS

[02:10:05]

I KNOW I WANTED I THINK WE SHOULD STILL SELL OUR PROPERTY FOR WHAT IS WORTH AT LEAST 75.

BUT IF THERE'S UH, LIKE YOU SAID, A CLEARANCE OF, UM I'M OKAY WITH THAT. AND I DON'T KNOW HOW I WOULD MAKE THAT MOTION. BUT SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS YOU WANNA RAISE THE FLOOR TO 75 BEFORE HE BRING THINGS TO US 75% OF THE ASSESS VALUE INSTEAD OF THE 50. BECAUSE RIGHT NOW HE HAS A HE DON'T BRING US NOTHING BELOW 50. SO, YOU SAYING YOU DON'T WANNA SEE ANYTHING BELOW 75? PERCENT OF THAT ASSESSED VALUE. IS, UM IN A DISCUSSION ON THAT FROM OTHER MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. ALL RIGHT. WHAT DO YOU THINK? I THINK THAT'S FINE. SO UM UH, COUNCILOR JONES, I THINK WILL ENTERTAIN THAT MOTION AND TO RAISE RAISE THAT FLOOR TO 75% OF THE ASSESSED VALUE. WELL, UM PROPERTY PURCHASES TO MAKE THAT OUR FLOOR REQUIREMENT. SO MOVE ALRIGHT. VICE MAYOR HILL.

SECOND, ALL RIGHT. SO WE JUST RAISE THE SEV 75 NOW. MR WILLIAMS. I SEE YOU LEANED UP AND WAS ANYTHING I COULD SAY ON THAT ONE. I WAS JUST GONNA MENTION THERE'S BEEN SOME DISCUSSION OVER THE YEARS ABOUT IDENTIFICATION OF CATALYST SITES AND CATALYST LOCATIONS WITHIN THE CITY WHERE SPECIAL CONSIDERATION ARE GIVEN BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF THE LOCATION OF THE PROPERTY AND THE POTENTIAL FOR ITS DEVELOPMENT. A LOT OF LOCALITIES DO THAT, AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE CONSIDERING IMPLEMENTING SOMETHING LIKE THAT INTO YOUR PLAN WHERE YOU'VE GOT A STANDARD PRICE FOR MOST PROPERTIES, BUT THERE ARE SOME UNIQUE PROPERTIES WITHIN THE CITY'S ARSENAL THAT REQUIRE HIGHER THRESHOLD. OKAY AND TONY. SO A RE YOU SAYING TO, UM KEEP THE FLOW AT 50, THEN DO SOME SOME SPECIAL TYPE OF UM THE FLOORS UP TO COUNCIL AND I. I DO THINK RAISING IT, AS COUNCILMAN JONES HAS SUGGESTED, IS NOT A BAD IDEA, BUT STILL THEY'RE GONNA BE SOME PROPERTIES THAT YOU MAY NOT EVEN WANT TO CONSIDER 75% FOR SOME SPECIAL PROPERTIES THAT YOU OWN THAT YOU THINK SHOULD BE AND CAN BE DEVELOPED INTO SOMETHING MORE IT. IT'S UP TO COUNCIL WHERE YOU PLACE THOSE NUMBERS AND WHERE THOSE PROPERTIES ARE, BUT I THINK DOING JUST IN ACROSS THE BOARD NUMBER IS DOING YOURSELF A BIT OF A DISSERVICE. OK? ALL RIGHT, UM, COUNCILOR MYERS WITH WITH THAT SEE IT FROM THE CITY. ATTORNEY CAN WE ENTER INTO A

[02:15:05]

WE HAVE MR ALVIN CANNON OF WARD ONE. OH, FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION. UH, UM, COUNCILMAN JONES IS HAS APPROVED IT AND I'M JUST MAKING A MOTION. UH, TO APPOINT. UH MR. UH, ALVIN CANNON OF WAR. ONE. OKAY? COUNCILOR MYERS WILL MOVE UM ALL COUN COUNCILOR JONES. OKAY? ALL RIGHT. PERFECT MOTION. THE SECOND UM, HERE. COULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROW? COUNCIL MEMBER C, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER JONES COUNCIL MEMBER MYERS COUNCIL MEMBER WESTBROOK, COUNCIL MEMBER SMITH LEE VICE MAYOR HILL. ALL RIGHT. NEXT, WE'LL CIRCLE BACK TO LEASE PAYMENT DISTRIBUTION. AND FINDS ALLOCATION PROCESS. THIS IS WHAT MR MOORE MR MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. I HAVE MR GARRETT, MR. DJ, Q MY MUSIC. THANK YOU, SIR. UH, THIS PRESENTATION IS A RESPONSE TO THE ALIBI LEASE PAYMENT DISTRIBUTION AT PREVIOUS COUNCIL MEETING, UH, MR JONES MADE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE LEASE AND TO DIRECT THE FUNDS GO TO THE PETERSBURG ACADEMIC SPORTS LEAGUE. AND THE HOMELESS INITIATIVE BY MISS PAT HINES.

THE LEAST AMOUNT WAS $500 A MONTH $6000 A YEAR. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. AGAIN WE REITERATED THE AMOUNT BASED UPON THE NATURE OF THE MOTION. WE HAD TO WORK TO DEVELOP A PROCESS. UH WE REALLY WANT TO THANK THE BUDGET AND FINANCE OFFICE BECAUSE TOGETHER, THAT'S HOW WE WERE ABLE TO COME UP WITH THIS. EACH ENTITY WILL HAVE TO SUBMIT A W NINE AND BE ENTERED INTO THE A. I WITH EACH LEASE AMOUNT PAID A PAYING VOUCHER HAS USED IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE G CODE. WE HAVE RECEIVED THE CURRENT PAYMENT FOR 31 OR SYCAMORE, AND IT HAS BEEN PAYING VOUCHERS BEEN SIGNED AND THAT'S GOING FORWARD. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. FOR THE REMAINDER OF 2324. THE LEAST AMOUNT ATTAINED WILL BE A TOTAL AMOUNT OF 2000. NOW WE'RE GONNA MAKE QUARTERLY PAYMENTS SO EACH ENTITY WILL RECEIVE 1000. FOR THE MONTH OF JUNE. ON A QUARTERLY BASIS, STARTING IN FY 2425. A MAN OF 1500 WILL BE EQUALLY ALLOCATED TO BOTH ENTITIES. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

OUR GOAL. I DON'T KNOW. IF THIS HAS TO BE AN ORDINANCE. I WILL LEAVE THIS TO THE CITY ATTORNEY AS IT IS MORE OF A INTERNAL PROCESS. ONE OF THE THINGS WE DO HAVE TO CLARIFY. WE HAVE ASKED FOR THE CREATION DOCUMENTS. YOU KNOW THE ENTITY DOCUMENTS W NINE. THOSE THINGS WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED THOSE YET, BUT IS NOT PAYMENT TIME. SO WE HAVE TO MAKE. WE'LL MAKE SURE WE HAVE THOSE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE ACCOUNTING AND EVERYTHING BEFORE ANY PAYMENTS ARE MADE. UM THANK YOU, MR MOORE. QUESTION. UM COUNCILOR MYERS. YOU HAVE A 501 C THREE. WE HAVE LOOKED THROUGH AT THIS POINT AND HAVE NOT SEEN ANYTHING AS FAR AS A 501 C THREE. IN THE SEC OR THE IRS SYSTEM, SIR. SO HOW A RE WE GONNA ALLOCATE AT THIS POINT WE CANNOT ALLOCATE. WE WOULD HAVE

[02:20:01]

COULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROOM COUNCIL MEMBER CUTHBERT COUNCIL MEMBER JONES, A COUNCIL MEMBER.

WESTBROOK COUNCIL MEMBER, SMITH LEE, VICE MAYOR HILL. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. SO MUCH FOR YOUR WORK MORE. ALL RIGHT. NEXT WE MOVE ON TO ITEM 14 E, WHICH IS CONGRESSIONAL COMMUNITY PROJECT FUNDING GRANT FOR FERNDALE PARK. UPGRADE MS WILLIAMS. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. UM THIS IS A STANDARD FORM THAT'S REQUIRED TO SUBMIT GRANTS. THIS IS FOR, UH, THE COMMUN CONGRESSIONAL COMMUNITY FUNDING AND IT'S FOR A PROJECT AT FERNDALE PARK. UM IT DOES HAVE THAT, UH, WE ALWAYS HAVE TO GET TO COMMIT IF A MATCH IS REQUIRED , BUT, UH, ALL OF OUR MATCHES SO FAR HAVE BEEN, UH, WAIVED BECAUSE WE'RE DISTRESSED CITY. ALSO BECAUSE FR IS HELPING WITH THIS PROJECT. THEY HAVE A MATCH. SO I THINK THAT WE'RE GOOD ON THIS. THIS IS A ROUTINE DOCUMENT. WE MUST SUBMIT ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. UM AT THIS TIME, UM COUNCILOR MYERS. I MOVE THAT WE ALLOW HER TO MOVE FORWARD, BUT OKAY. UM, COUNCILMAN WESTBROOK. THANK YOU.

THE MOTION CO, UM, FIRST, A MOTION TO SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN WESTBROOK. NEXT QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL ON THE MOTION. UM, COUNCILMAN JONES. HOW YOU DOING, MISS JOAN? WHEN UM IS THIS GRANT PROCESS DUE WHERE? WHAT'S THE DUE DATE NEXT WEEK? I BELIEVE MARCH 28TH. AND WHEN DO WE KNOW ABOUT IT? WE DON'T KNOW. WE YOU KNOW WE COULD KNOW IN A IN A COUPLE OF MONTHS, BUT SINCE CONGRESS HAS NEVER SIGNED LAST YEAR'S BUDGET I'M NOT SURE. SO YEAH. OK? ALRIGHT WITH MOTION TO SECOND AT THIS TIME IS HERE. WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? THEIR COUNCIL MEMBER CUTHBERT COUNCIL MEMBER JONES, UH, COUNCIL, MY COUNCIL MEMBER. WESTBROOK COUNCIL MEMBER, SMITH LEE, VICE MAYOR HULL. THE MOTION CARRIES. ALL RIGHT NEXT WE MOVE ON TO ITEM 15 CITY MANAGERS

[15. City Manager's Report and Special Reports]

[02:25:04]

THAT'S BACK UP AND RUNNING. UH, WE'RE IN CONVERSATIONS AS WE INDICATED EARLIER BY THE VICE MAYOR WITH A WOODEN BAT LEAGUE THAT WOULD WANT TO RENT OUR FACILITY AND HOST, UH, A SEVEN YEAR COMMITMENT TO PLAY HERE, SO THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD ACTIVITY THAT'S HAPPENING. AND I WANNA THANK ALL THOSE DEPARTMENT HEADS FOR WORKING TOGETHER. MAKE THOSE THINGS HAPPEN FOR OUR CITIZENS AND OUR COMMUNITY. THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION. PAST FEW MEETINGS ABOUT THESE ISSUES WITH STORM WATER AND FLOODING. SO JUST SO OUR CITIZENS UNDERSTAND. WE ARE ACTIVELY WORKING ON A FLOOD. WE ARE ACTIVELY WORKING ON A FLOOD STUDY. UH, TO ADDRESS THESE PROBLEM AREAS THAT'S GONNA TAKE TIME. BUT THE OTHER PIECE HERE IS AND I THINK SO. THERE'S A COUPLE OF ITEMS ONE WHEN WE LOOK AT LIEUTENANTS RUN, WHICH HAS BEEN DISCUSSED A COUPLE OF TIMES A GREAT DEAL OF THAT PROPERTY THAT CREEK RUNS ON PRIVATE PROPERTY, WHICH WE DO NOT HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO GO ON.

TO JUST START CLEANING PEOPLE'S PROPERTY. WE CAN'T GO ON PRIVATE PROPERTY TO DO THAT. THAT'S WHY IT TAKES THE PLAN. AND HOW YOU'RE GONNA DO IT AND GETTING EASEMENTS WORKING WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO GAIN ACCESS TO BE ABLE TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT. UH, ADDITIONALLY THE DAY THAT THE DEBRIS FROM THE DEMOLITION FELL INTO THE CREEK. DEQ WAS ON SITE AND INSTRUCTED THE CONTRACTOR TO REMOVE THE MATERIAL AND APPROVE WHAT WAS REMOVED, SO ACTION WAS TAKEN AT THAT TIME. SO WE IT'S NOT THAT WE'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING AND IT'S NOT THAT WE'RE AFRAID OF THE RAILROAD COMPANY. THE RAILROAD COMPANY WILL BE A SUBSTANTIAL OBSTACLE TO FOR US TO ADDRESS THIS PARTICULAR DRAINAGE BASIN. BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO DEAL WITH WHERE IT GOES, WHICH IS INTO INTO THE OLD HARBOR AREA, WHICH IS PRETTY MUCH SILTED IN. UH, I WOULDN'T SAY YOU COULD WALK ACROSS IT BECAUSE MY GUESS IS IT'S MORE LIKE QUICKSAND, BUT IT'S SILTED IN AND WE HAVE TREES GROWING THERE NOW WHERE IT USED TO BE FREE FLOW OF WATER. THAT'S WHERE ALL THAT STORM WATER GOES. IT DOESN'T HAVE ANYWHERE TO GO, THEN IT STARTS TO BACK UP. IT BACKS UP STREAM AND WE HAVE FLOODING. SO WE ARE ACTIVELY ADDRESSING THESE ISSUES. WE HAD MORE THAN ONE CONVERSATION WITH SEVERAL CITIZENS ACROSS THE CITY ABOUT THESE ISSUES, AND WE ARE WORKING ON A PLAN THAT WE CAN BRING FORWARD TO DEVISE. REMEDIATION PLANS ON HOW TO GO IN AND CORRECT IT. SO WE ARE ACTIVELY WORKING ON THAT ISSUE. I JUST WANTED TO FOR COUNCIL AND THE COMMUNITY TO KNOW THAT OKAY? ANY OTHER ITEMS. OK? ALL RIGHT. NEXT WE MOVE ON TO, UH, BUSINESS

[16. Business or reports from the Clerk]

[17. Business or reports from the City Attorney]

ALRIGHT NICE IS ITEM 18 ADJOURNMENT. ALL THIS MEANS ADJOURNED AND WE WILL BE ROLLING INTO OUR CLOSED SESSION AND WE HAD THE GOOD CHURCH HERE EARLY AND HAVE A CLOSED SESSION NOW THAT WE'RE GOING INTO NEXT, UH THERE WAS ADVERTISED FOR SEVEN O'CLOCK HILL. IT IS CURRENTLY 737. SO AT THIS TIME, UM I'M GOING TO ADJOURN THE REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING ROLL INTO THIS ONE WITH A ROLL. CALL MISS HILL. COULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROOM? COUNCIL MEMBER CUTHBERT HERE, COUNCIL MEMBER JONES COUNCIL MEMBER MYERS COUNCIL MEMBER WESTBROOK COUNCIL MEMBER SMITH LEE PRESENT VICE MAYOR HILL. MAYOR PIER HERE. NEXT WE HAVE ITEM TWO CLOSED SESSION. THE PURPOSE OF THIS MEETING IS TO CONVENE IN A CLOSED SESSION PURSUANT. TO THE MOTION TO

[02:30:02]

REAL PROPERTY. WE'RE DISCUSSING THE OPEN MEETING WITH AVERSELY AFFECT BARGAINING POSITION OR NEGOTIATING STRATEGY OF THE PUBLIC BODY SPECIFICALLY INCLUDED, BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE ACQUISITION AND DISPOSITION OF REAL PROPERTY. VICE MAYOR HILL SO MOVE COUNCILWOMAN SMITH LEE.

ALL RIGHT, MISS HILL. PLEASE CALL THE ROAD. YES, SIR. COUNCIL MEMBER, CUTHBERT. OH, YEAH, MR MAYOR. YOU SAID CALL THE OK. I'M SORRY. I COUNCIL MEMBER JONES OH, HE IS. AH! COUNCIL MEMBER MYERS, COUNCIL MEMBER OF WESTBROOK, COUNCIL MEMBER SMITH LEE, VICE MAYOR HILL

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