Jul 16, 2024 Regular City Council Meeting

[1. Roll Call]

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EVENING. THANK YOU, EVERYBODY, FOR COMING OUT FOR TONIGHT'S COUNCIL MEETING OF JULY 16TH, 2024. AND AT THIS TIME, MISS HILL, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? COUNCIL MEMBER CUTHBERT.

HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER. JONES HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER MYERS HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER. WESTBROOK.

PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER. SMITH LEE PRESENT. VICE MAYOR. HILL PRESENT. MAYOR PARAM HERE. SIR, YOU HAVE A QUORUM. NEXT. GO ON TO ITEM TWO, OUR OPENING PRAYER. VICE MAYOR HILL WILL LEAD US IN OUR OPENING PRAYER. LET US HUMBLE OUR HEARTS. ETERNAL GOD, OUR FATHERS, ONCE AGAIN WE COME BEFORE YOU, PRAISING YOUR HOLY AND YOUR RIGHTEOUS NAME. WE THANK YOU FOR THIS DAY. WE THANK YOU FOR THE BLESSINGS OF TODAY. LORD, WE ASK THAT BLESSINGS UPON THIS MEETING, AS WE DO THE BUSINESS OF PETERSBURG AND THE SURROUNDING AREAS, WE ASK THAT YOU BE WITH OUR CITIZENS.

HEAVENLY FATHER, WE ASK THAT YOU BE WITH THIS COUNCIL, BE WITH OUR RESIDENTS, THOSE WHO WORK AND PLAY IN THE CITY OF PETERSBURG, BE WITH OUR STAFF. HEAVENLY FATHER. BLESS THEM IMMENSELY. LORD, LET US HAVE A SENSE TO TURN DOWN THE VOLUME ON ALL THAT'S GOING ON WITH THIS POLITICAL SITUATION FROM OUR NATION'S CAPITAL TO OUR GENERAL ASSEMBLY TO EVEN IN LOCAL LEVELS HERE IN PETERSBURG. HEAVENLY FATHER, WE HAVE MORE IN COMMON THAN WE DO IN DISAGREEMENT.

HEAVENLY FATHER, SO LET US ALL FIND A WAY TO GET TO A MEANS TO HELP ONE ANOTHER. HEAVENLY FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR THIS DAY. WE ASK THAT BLESSINGS UPON THIS COUNCIL AND A SPECIAL WAY, AS WE DO THE BUSINESS OF THIS CITY, AND WE ASK THAT YOU WOULD TAKE US TO HIGHER HEIGHTS AND DEEPER DEPTHS IN YOU, THAT WE CAN MOVE THIS CITY FORWARD WITH RESIDENTS INVOLVED. IT'S IN YOUR NAME, WE PRAY AND WE THANK YOU. AMEN. AMEN. NEXT IS ITEM THREE, THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

EVERYONE, PLEASE STAND AND JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. NEXT IS ITEM FOUR, THE TERMINATION OF A

[4. Determination of the Presence of a Quorum]

[5. Proclamations/Recognitions/Presentation of Ceremonial Proclamations]

[6. Responses to Previous Public Information Posted]

[7. Approval of Consent Agenda]

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IS THAT RIGHT? I SAID THE, THE LAST PHASE THE LAST NEXT COMMITMENT AFTER THE ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION OF THE INITIAL BUILDING WILL BE THE OUTFITTING OF THE INSIDE OF THE BUILDING, FROM OFFICES TO THE WEIGHT ROOMS TO MATS TO CARPETS, TO THE REDOING OF THE LOCKER ROOMS INSIDE THE EXISTING GYM, WHICH BOTH ARE USED BY THE MEN'S AND WOMEN'S BASKETBALL TEAMS. RIGHT THAT'S THAT'S PHASE TWO. AND THEY DON'T PLAN ON ENGAGING IN PHASE TWO YET. IS THAT RIGHT? EXACTLY RIGHT. SO FOR PHASE ONE, DO THEY HAVE THE BALANCE OF THE MONEY NEEDED TO COMPLETE WHAT I'M CALLING PHASE ONE? YES THEY DO. OKAY. YEP. THANK YOU. OKAY ALL RIGHT. COUNCILMAN. SWIFTLY.

YEAH. MAYOR, I WAS JUST GOING TO JUST MAKE A STATEMENT. OKAY. THAT, IF WE CAN HELP OUT AND KNOW THAT, THE HOTEL IS HERE, AND WE'VE WE'VE WE MADE A COMMITMENT WITH THEM, AND THE COMMITMENT THAT WE HAVE WITH PETERSBURG HIGH SCHOOL. I THINK WE SHOULD HONOR THAT COMMITMENT.

OKAY WHAT'S WHAT'S GOOD FOR ONE IS GOOD FOR THE OTHER. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO THOSE ARE THE ITEMS FOR THE CONSENT AGENDA. SO I APPROVE A, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE WITH THE AMENDMENTS BY BY MR. TONY WILLIAMS. SO MOVED. I SECOND. ALL RIGHT. SECOND. COUNCILMAN JONES, MISS HILL, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL COUNCIL MEMBER CUTHBERT I, COUNCIL MEMBER JONES I COUNCIL MEMBER. MYERS. COUNCIL MEMBER. WESTBROOK I COUNCIL MEMBER. SMITH. LEE.

[8. Official Public Hearings]

[9. Public Information Period]

THE ORDER OF SPEAKER IS LIMITED BY THE 30 MINUTE TIME PERIOD, SHALL BE DETERMINED AS FOLLOWS A

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ONCE AGAIN, WE'VE ACTUALLY INCREASED OUR ATTENDANCE AT THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS. ABOUT 20 PEOPLE ACTUALLY CAME OUT, WHICH IS REALLY GOOD. THAT'S ABOUT 87. JUNE 18TH, THAT WAS THE LAST CITY COUNCIL MEETING WE HAD ABOUT 65% INCREASE IN ATTENDANCE. WE HAD ONE OF OUR NEW ISLAND MEMBERS ACTUALLY SPOKE UP, A RESIDENT, EXCUSE ME, KIRA STEVENS WAS AT THAT MEETING WHERE SHE SPOKE UP TO COUNCIL ABOUT THE APPOMATTOX RIVER HERITAGE TRAIL ON THE 20TH.

COUNCIL MEMBER CUTHBERT HAD THE WARD FOUR MEETING. CAN WE GO TO THE SECOND PAGE, AT THAT MEETIN, WHAT WAS SAID WAS THAT THERE IS A DCR GRANT FOR 2.5 MILLION TO DO SOME ABATEMENT WORK OVER AT THE ROPER SITE, MAINLY ABATEMENT WORK REGARDING FLOODING, IT WILL NOT ADDRESS THE ISSUES WITH THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE FACING POCAHONTAS STREET BECAUSE WE'RE NOT REALLY CLEAR ON WHETHER THOSE FUNDS COULD BE UTILIZED TO REPAIR THOSE BUILDINGS THAT HAVE HOLES IN THE ROOF OR SIDING, ALSO, ONE OF THE ITEMS WE HAD AS AN INITIATIVE, INITIATIVE NUMBER ONE, WHERE WE SPOKE TO, REQUESTING THAT THE, CITY, YOU KNOW, HAS THE ENGINEER LOOK AT THE BRIDGE GAP. SO THAT'S BELIEVED TO BE AN EXPANSION GAP OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE. THERE WAS A VDOT ASSESSMENT DONE. I WANT TO SAY SOMETIME THIS YEAR, THE CITY MANAGER MENTIONED THAT KIND OF CLEARED THE BRIDGE. SO THERE WAS NO ISSUE WITH THAT GAP. I'M GUESSING IT MUST BE AN EXPANSION GAP, IF WE COULD MOVE ON TO. OH, YES, THANK YOU FOR THAT, AND SO THE OTHER ITEM WAS THAT, MR. CUTHBERT ALSO PUT A CONSENT AGENDA. THIS IS REGARDING ANOTHER INITIATIVE WHERE WE WERE TRYING TO REMOVE THE HEAVY TRUCKS OFF OF THE ISLAND, SO THAT CONSENT AGENDA WILL BE IN FRONT OF YOU GUYS ON SEPTEMBER 3RD. IF WE CAN SKIP TO THE VIDEO REAL QUICK. AND SO THE VIDEO, I'LL BE SHOWING HERE IS OF A PERSON DUMPING ON JUNE 11TH, THIS INDIVIDUAL I HAVE FOOTAGE OF THEM. I SENT AN EMAIL TO CHIEF CHRISTIAN ON THE 12TH OF JUNE, AND WE'RE TRYING TO SEE IF THEY CAN GO PULL THE TRAIL CAMERA FOOTAGE THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE OUT THERE, BUT THAT'S A PICTURE OF IT. I'M NOT SURE IF YOU CAN SHOW THE VIDEO, BUT IT'S A TRUCK RIDING RIGHT PAST MY HOUSE. WITH ALL OF THAT ON THE BACK, AND SO WE REALLY WANT TO EMPHASIZE THE IMPORTANCE AND NEED FOR BETTER SURVEILLANCE OF THAT AREA TO ENSURE WE CAN, YOU KNOW, CAPTURE THOSE LICENSE PLATES AND GET PEOPLE IN TROUBLE, THE MOST RECENT PERPETRATOR THAT WE CAUGHT WAS IN MARCH. HE ACTUALLY GOES TO COURT ON FRIDAY AND I'M SUBPOENAED AS A WITNESS. SO THAT'S PRETTY MUCH MY UPDATE FOR THE DAY. IT'S PRETTY SUCCINCT. I DIDN'T WANT TO BELABOR ANY POINTS BECAUSE I DID MEET WITH, COUNCIL MEMBER CUTHBERT AND THE MAYOR. EXCUSE ME? THE MANAGER ON. I THINK THAT WAS YESTERDAY. SO THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH, AND I HOPE YOU HAVE A GOOD EVENING.

OKAY. THANK YOU. NEXT WE MOVE ON TO MISS ELENA DANIELS. GOOD EVENING. I HAVE GOOD EVENING. A COPY OF WHAT WE PRESENTED. YES. GOOD EVENING. COUNCIL MEMBERS AND FELLOW RESIDENTS OF PETERSBURG. I'M HERE TO PRESENT MY COMMUNITY WITH, OF TAXPAYERS. A PETITION DEMANDING THE CITY OF PETERSBURG TO REPAIR A VITAL COMMUNITY BRIDGE AND IMPLEMENT A CUL DE SAC, OUR COMMUNITY IS BUILT ON THE FOUNDATION OF UNITY AND SHARED VALUES. ONE SUCH VALUE IS THE BELIEF IN SAFETY.

EASY ACCESS, AND PRESERVATION OF THE ESTHETIC VALUE OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE HOMES OF OUR RESIDENTS. BUT OVER THE PAST THREE YEARS, THE CLOSURE AND DISREPAIR OF THE VITAL BRIDGE

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IT'S TIME FOR OUR LOCAL AUTHORITIES TO. IT'S TIME OUR LOCAL AUTHORITIES LISTENED TO THEIR CONSTITUENTS AND TOOK DECISIVE MATTERS, DECISIVE ACTIONS TO REPAIR OUR BRIDGE AND TO INSTALL A CUL DE SAC TO ENSURE SAFETY AND CONVENIENCE FOR OUR RESIDENTS. THIS IS WHY WE, THE TAXPAYING RESIDENTS OF WALNUT HILL GARDENS, WILL NOT ACCEPT THE REPAIR OR IN THE OPENING OF THE ORIGINAL ENTRANCE TO OUR COMMUNITY, WITHOUT THE IMPLEMENTATION OF A CUL DE SAC THAT THAT KEEPS BATTLEFIELD PARK RESIDENTS FROM USING OAK HILL ROAD AND AMHERST DRIVE AS A SPEEDWAY TO THEIR HOMES. FOR THE PAST THREE YEARS, THEY'VE HAD TO FIND ALTERNATE ROUTES. AND THAT WAS THE MAJOR ARGUMENT THAT CITY COUNCIL HAD IN PRIOR PETITIONS THAT HAD BEEN MADE FOR THIS CHANGE. SO WE'RE JUST ASKING THAT YOU WOULD REPAIR ART AND PAVE OUR ROADS AND OPEN THE BRIDGE AND IMPLEMENT THE CUL DE SAC. WE WILL NOT ACCEPT ONE WITHOUT THE OTHER. THANK YOU, MISS DANIELS. COULD YOU STATE YOUR ADDRESS FOR US, PLEASE? FOR THE RECORD, YES. 321 OAK HILL ROAD. OKAY. THANK YOU. YES ALL RIGHT, MR. CITY MANAGER, WE'D LIKE TO, YOU HAVE ANY UPDATES ON THE ON THE BRIDGE REPAIR? YES. YES SIR, WE CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND THE RESIDENTS. FRUSTRATION AND THE NEED TO REOPEN THE BRIDGE FROM A PUBLIC SAFETY PERSPECTIVE, AND PARTLY THE REASON FOR THE BRIDGE BEING CLOSED IS A PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUE BECAUSE OF THE FAILURE OF THE BRIDGE STRUCTURE. BUT WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING, AND I'VE MET WITH, DAVENPORT, OUR FINANCIAL ADVISORS, TO DISCUSS A WAY TO FINANCE THIS PROJECT TO USE UTILIZE SOME FUNDING, EITHER THROUGH A BOND ISSUANCE OR BANK PLACEMENT TO MOVE THIS PROJECT FORWARD. AND WE HOPE TO HAVE A WAY TO DO THAT AND PRESENT THAT TO COUNCIL AT A FUTURE MEETING SO WE CAN HELP MOVE THIS PROJECT FORWARD AND GET THIS BRIDGE BACK OPEN FOR OUR RESIDENTS. AND AT THE SAME TIME, WE RECOGNIZE THAT WE HAVE A BRIDGE CLOSED ON LAFAYETTE THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED. SO WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO WORK THOSE IN TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE SITUATION THAT WE'RE IN AND THE TIMING OF IT TO GET THESE TWO PROJECTS COMPLETED. RIGHT. COUNCILMAN? COVER THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR, MR. CITY MANAGER, I TAKE IT THAT THERE'S NO LIKELY GRANT, SOURCE FOR, MONEY TO HELP US WITH THIS? THE. THAT'S HOW WE GOT THE SAINT ANDREW'S STREET BRIDGE UP. AND SO THERE ARE FUNDING SOURCES OUT THERE, BUT IT YOU KNOW, I THINK THERE'S A THERE'S A BALANCE THERE. SO THERE ARE FUNDING SOURCES OUT. WE HAVE TO APPLY AND RECEIVE THEM, WHICH MAY NOT WORK IN THE TIME FRAME OF OUR RESIDENTS. SO WE'RE TRYING TO FIND EXPEDITED, EXPEDITED WAYS TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. BUT ALSO LOOK AT OTHER ALTERNATIVES, SUCH AS GRANT FUNDING THAT COULD HELP SUPPLEMENT THE PROJECT. SO WE'RE WORKING WE'RE LOOKING AT ALL THOSE ANGLES, BUT WE HAVE BEGUN.

I HAVE BEGUN TO DISCUSSIONS WITH DAVENPORT TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO HELP MOVE THE PROJECT ALONG.

THUS FAR, WE WE'VE APPLIED FOR A GRANT FUNDING AND WE HAVE NOT BEEN SUCCESSFUL. SO WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT ALTERNATIVES TO HELP MOVE IT ALONG. SO YOU SAID THAT WE HAVE APPLIED FOR GRANT FUNDING BUT WERE NOT SUCCESSFUL. WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY FUNDING THROUGH THE FUNDING WE REQUESTED

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CERTAINLY WE WILL, BUT TO DATE WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED ANY. SO WE'RE TRYING TO FIND ALTERNATIVES TO MOVE THE PROJECT FORWARD. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. AND MR. CITY MANAGER, CAN YOU GET BACK WITH US WITH A TIME FRAME, TOO? BECAUSE I KNOW WE WERE ALSO EXPLORING OPTIONS OF A TEMPORARY BRIDGE, WHICH WAS A TWO, $2 MILLION FOR A TEMPORARY BRIDGE THERE AT OAK HILL AND THEN THE PERMANENT ONE. I KNOW WAS LOOKING AT 3.5, I THINK, FOR THE SAKE OF TIME, WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHICH WHICH ONE IS OUR QUICKEST FIX TO GET IN THERE. IF WE CAN GET THE, THE WHOLE BRIDGE FUNDED THROUGH THROUGH BONDING AND GET THE TEMPORARY ONE, IF WE CAN GET THAT IN HERE, WITHIN A YEAR, I WOULD RATHER GO WITH THE SOONER ONE THAN THE LONG TERM, JUST BECAUSE IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME. YEAH, IT'S BEEN CLOSED, SO. WELL, CAN YOU GET GET THAT TOGETHER FOR US? AND THEN WE CAN GET THE RESIDENTS OF OAK HILL TOGETHER TO GO OVER WHICH, WHICH ONE IS THE QUICKEST WAY TO OPEN THAT UP? BECAUSE IT'S BEEN TOO LONG. WE CAN GET THAT, RECOMMENDATION TOGETHER FOR COUNCIL AND THEN HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITH THE RESIDENTS.

IF THAT'S WHAT YOU ALL WANT TO DO. OKAY. THANKS. ALL RIGHT. NEXT, WE HAVE, TERRY WILSON.

GOOD EVENING, ACTUALLY, HIS WIFE, HE CAN'T MAKE IT. SHALONDA. OKAY. AND, YOUR ADDRESS, PLEASE. 310 310 OAK HILL ROAD. OKAY ALL RIGHT. AND, PRETTY MUCH, AS SHE STATED, IT'S BEEN ALMOST THREE YEARS. SOUNDS LIKE WE REALLY DON'T HAVE ANSWERS. SOUNDS LIKE NOTHING HAS REALLY BEEN DONE, THAT'S WHAT I'M GETTING FROM THE QUESTION. AND THAT WAS JUST DONE. SO I'M JUST WONDERING WHO'S GOING TO HOLD THIS GENTLEMAN OR WHOEVER IS RESPONSIBLE, ACCOUNTABLE FOR STAYING ON TOP OF IT SO IT DOESN'T GO INTO FIVE YEARS OR SIX YEARS, WE REALLY NEED ANSWERS. AND THAT'S JUST THE GIST OF IT. IT'S BEEN LONG AND NO REAL ANSWERS, EXCEPT THAT IT

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IF, BERTHA WAS HERE TODAY, SHE'D TELL YOU SHE'S A RESIDENT OF WALNUT HILL GARDENS, WHERE SHE'S OWNED HER HOME AND PAID TAXES FOR THE PAST 30 YEARS. SHE TELL YOU THAT SHE'S 73 YEARS OLD AND CARES DEEPLY FOR HER COMMUNITY? YOU MAY HAVE SEEN AND HEARD HER ON THE NEWS RECENTLY, BRINGING ATTENTION TO THE OAK HILL BRIDGE CLOSURE. I BECAME AWARE OF THE BRIDGE CLOSURE WHEN I CAME TO VISIT MY UNCLE WHILE HE WAS IN HOSPICE CARE. AS I APPROACHED HER HOME FROM CRATER ROAD, I REACHED A CLOSURE THAT WAS BLOCKING, THAT WAS BLOCKING THE MOST DIRECT PATH OF REACHING HER HOME. NAVIGATING THE DETOUR, I WAS ABLE I ARRIVED AT HER HOUSE WHERE I WITNESSED AND LEARNED OF OTHER FAMILY MEMBERS HAVING DIFFICULTY NAVIGATING THE BRIDGE CLOSURE. AS YOU MAY KNOW, WALNUT HILL GARDENS IS AN INTERGENERATIONAL AND AGING COMMUNITY WHOM RELY ON PUBLIC SERVICES AS WELL, SUCH AS THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND EMT TO REACH THEM IN SUFFICIENT TIME. THE DETOUR IS MORE THAN JUST A SAFETY HAZARD. IT'S A REMINDER EVERY DAY TO THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT THEIR EXPERIENCES AND WHAT THEY ARE GOING THROUGH DOESN'T MATTER TO THEIR CITY LEADERS. I BELIEVE THAT PETERSBURG IS THE SOUL. AS AN SU L AND SOUL OF OUR NATION. IT PLAYED A PIVOTAL ROLE IN THE REVOLUTIONARY WAR AND THE CIVIL WAR. I LEARNED ABOUT HOW LINCOLN CRIED AS HE WALKED THROUGH PETERSBURG, AT THE COUNTLESS LIVES LOST TO UNNECESSARY DEATH AND SUFFERING. AS I THINK ABOUT THOSE WORDS, I REFLECT ON HOW TODAY I CRY FOR THE COUNTLESS LIVES LOST TO UNNECESSARY DEATHS AND SUFFERING. NATIONAL POLITICS ISN'T TO BE FOLLOWED. AT THE END OF THE DAY, CHANGE HAPPENS HERE IN THOSE SEATS THAT YOU RAN FOR. IT'S THE DECISIONS THAT YOU MAKE. THE POLICIES THAT YOU CREATE THAT TRULY DETERMINE THE POVERTY IN OUR COMMUNITY. THE HOMELESSNESS IN OUR COMMUNITY. BLACK OWNERSHIP IN OUR COMMUNITIES, THE CONNECTEDNESS OF OUR COMMUNITIES AND THE REPARATIONS THAT ARE OWED AND COMING TO OUR COMMUNITY. BECAUSE I'M CLAIMING IT, THIS COUNTRY STOLE, RAPED AND SOLD US FOR WEALTH THAT STILL BEING CIRCULATED OUTSIDE OF AND AWAY FROM OUR COMMUNITIES TO SEE THE TRANSFORMATION. TODAY, THERE IS NO PRESIDENT NOR GOVERNOR, NOR SUPERHERO THAT IS COMING TO SAVE US. WE ARE WHO WE'VE BEEN WAITING FOR TO SEE THIS BLACK COUNCIL SITTING ACROSS ME MAKES ME PROUD AND SAD. I'M PROUD BECAUSE YOU SHOW ME WHAT'S POSSIBLE FOR ME AND EVERYONE IN THIS COMMUNITY. I'M SAD AT THE SAME TIME. I'M SAD BECAUSE IT'S OVERDUE FOR PETERSBURG TO THRIVE AND PROSPER ABUNDANTLY. I THINK THIS CITY AND THE TRI COUNTY REGION IS LACKING IN EXCEPT RADICAL LEADERS WHO UNDERSTAND WHY WE CAN'T WAIT ANY LONGER FOR THINGS TO GET BETTER. EXCUSE ME, MA'AM. TOM, I'M ALMOST DONE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT IS, MR. JOHN GRIFFIN HERE. NO. OKAY. HE'S NOT OKAY.

ALL RIGHT, NEXT UP, MISS BARB RUDOLPH. BARB RUDOLPH, 1675 MOUNT VERNON STREET. I WISH I COULD GIVE SOME OF MY TIME TO THE LADY WHO JUST SPOKE SO SHE COULD FINISH, BECAUSE I THINK IT

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I MEAN, HORTICULTURE IS MY PROBABLY MY MAJOR HOBBY. BESIDES DEALING WITH GOVERNMENT THINGS.

BUT ASIDE, THAT'S MY PEACE, MY PEACE LOVING HOBBY IS PLANTS. AND SO IF WE CAN CONTINUE WITH THAT LOOK, MAKING THE CITY LOOK, LOOK BEAUTIFUL, I KNOW THAT COUNCILOR JONES IS, ADVOCATING FOR A LOT OF THINGS IN HIS WARD, AND I DRIVE THROUGH HIS WARD EVERY DAY, THE CORRIDOR THAT GOES BETWEEN PETERSBURG AND FORT GREG ADAMS AND HOPEWELL. AND I THINK IT SOUNDS LIKE GREAT THINGS ARE COMING. BUT KEEP KEEP LOOKING AT YOU'VE ALREADY GOT SOME TREES. THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF THAT MEDIAN IN THERE THAT'S GOT STILL NEEDS THAT PRUNING. YOU'VE GOT SOME EXCELLENT WHITE BLOOMING CRAPE MYRTLES THERE THAT SHOW THAT THEY WILL GROW IN THAT MEDIAN SECTION. TAKE CARE OF THOSE, TAKE CARE OF ALL OF THE TREES WE HAVE. ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO PLANT TREES. I'VE TALKED TO SOME OF YOU, OFFLINE AND SAID, DON'T CUT DOWN TREES IN YOUR YARD. I KNOW VICE MAYOR HILL IS LAUGHING BECAUSE I'VE SAID IT TO HIM, BUT, YOU KNOW, TREES FALL ON THINGS, BUT A LOT OF THINGS HAPPEN. THEY ALSO SHADE US AND HELP US WITH OUR HEATING BILL. OUR AIR CONDITIONING BILLS. AND THAT'S CRITICAL RIGHT NOW. THANKS. THANK YOU. NEXT UP, MR. CALVIN MARLOW. GOOD AFTERNOON. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS CALVIN MARLOW AND I LIVE AT 525 OAK HILL ROAD, PETERSBURG. I HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A CRITICISM AND ALSO A SPECIFIC QUESTION, FOR THE PAST YEAR OR MORE, I HAVE BEEN MAKING STRENUOUS EFFORTS TO GET AN ANSWER FROM SOMEBODY ON THE CITY COUNCIL, THE, CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE. I HAVE BEEN SENDING EMAILS. I HAVE ACTUALLY PERSONALLY COME DOWN AND VISITED THE CITY HALL DOWN THERE AND PUT IN A COMPLAINT, AND I HAVE NOT RECEIVED A RESPONSE BACK AT THE TIME WHEN I DID IT AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR. AND ALSO I DARE SAY I FIND THAT THAT ANY MEMBER ON THIS COMMITTEE WOULD NOT HAVE SEEN THE LIVE INTERVIEW THAT I DID ON TV, ON CHANNEL SIX, JUST THIS PAST JANUARY, STANDING AT THE OAK HILL, OAK HILL BRIDGE, SECTION THERE WHERE IT'S, BROKE DOWN. SO, I KNOW THAT FOR A FACT BECAUSE, JUST ABOUT EVERYBODY THAT I'VE COME IN CONTACT, EVEN STRANGERS, WHEN I'M AT THE SUPERMARKET, SAY, I JUST SAW YOU ON TV AND ASKING ME ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE SITUATION AT THE OAK HILL BRIDGE. SO BASICALLY, AND ALSO THE CLEANERS THAT I TAKE MY CLOTHES TO, THE VERY PERSON THAT DOES YOUR, YOUR DRY CLEANING, THE MAYOR DOES MY DRY CLEANING TOO, AND HE TALKS TO ME ABOUT IT AT THE SAME TIME ABOUT, WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WITH THAT BRIDGE THAT OPENED IN COLONIAL HEIGHTS, THE DRY CLEANERS, THE PERSON THAT YOU TAKE YOUR CLOTHES TO, AND DRY CLEANERS IN COLONIAL HEIGHTS.

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AND ALSO MY QUESTION IS, THE LAST INFORMATION I GOT WAS THAT, WELL, WHAT HAPPENED TO THE MONEY ABOUT BUILD BACK BETTER AMERICA? WHAT HAVE YOU FOLKS DONE WITH THAT MONEY OR THOSE FUNDS FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT? WHERE HAS THAT MONEY GONE? GIVE US SPECIFIC ANSWER ABOUT WHERE IS THAT MONEY AT? WHERE'S THAT CASH AT FROM BUILD BACK BETTER AMERICA THAT YOU TOOK THAT MONEY FROM? AND ALSO, WHY IS IT THAT YOU CAN'T SAY EXACTLY WHEN AND WHAT DAY YOU'RE GOING TO GET STARTED ON DOING THIS, REPAIR AND FIX UP BECAUSE THE LONGER YOU WAIT, LIKE THEY SAID, THE MORE IT'S GOING TO COST. THE LONGER YOU WAIT, THE MORE IT'S GOING TO COST ALONG YOU. YOU'RE DILLY DALLY AROUND. THAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. BUT I FIND IT VERY PECULIARLY STRANGE THAT YOU HAVEN'T GAVE A FOCUS ON THIS UNTIL MEMBERS FROM THE COMMUNITY SHOWED UP HERE TODAY.

THANK YOU. YES NEXT, MISS BERTHA BASKERVILLE. OKAY ALL RIGHT. NEXT ELAINE TAYLOR, WHAT IS OUR TAX MONEY GOING TO? IS THAT MISS ELAINE TAYLOR? I MEAN, DID YOU WANT TO COME TO THE MICROPHONE AND SPEAK? MISS TAYLOR? 1612 DOOPY ROAD W Y PETERSBURG, VIRGINIA. WHERE IS OUR TAX MONEY GOING? TO THE BRIDGES ARE DOWN. WATERLINES MESSED UP. WE PAY TAXES. Y'ALL WANT THE MONEY EVERY FOUR MONTHS? WHERE IS THE TAX MONEY GOING. TO? NEXT. KARA STEVENS.

GOOD AFTERNOON. GOOD AFTERNOON, TWO, TWO SIX ROLFE STREET. I RECENTLY MOVED TO POCAHONTAS. SO A FEW THINGS THAT STILL CONCERNS FOR ME IS THE TRAIL. SO IN THE EVENINGS, GOING HOME FROM WORK, GETTING MY STEPS OR EITHER ON THE WEEKENDS, IT'S STILL, REALLY BUSHY AND IT HASN'T BEEN CUT IN.

THE TRASH IS NOT GETTING PICKED UP AT ALL. IT'S TRASH EVERYWHERE. ANIMALS IS CARRYING IT THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE TRAIL AND YOU CAN'T COMPLETELY WALK IT. ME PERSONALLY, WITHOUT FEELING SAFE BECAUSE IT'S AT ME AND SNAKES OR ANYTHING, SO MAINTAINING THE TRAIL, HAVING SOME KIND OF MAINTENANCE OR SOMETHING FOR THAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO ME, LIVING THERE JUST TO ENJOY MY OWN COMMUNITY, THE OTHER THING IS THE TRUCKS ON THE ROAD. SO ONE MORNING, I GET, I GO TO WORK, I WORK ON BASE, AND I LEAVE. I GET THERE BY SIX AND I WAS COMING OFF OF THIRD STREET, AND I CAN'T PEOPLE PARK AT TRAPEZI AND THEN THEY PARK ON THE STREET AND I'M TRYING TO COME OUT AND I WAIT. AND ONE OF THOSE TRUCKS LIKE, ALMOST TOOK ME OUT. AND I WAS SO SCARED. AND I'VE BEEN SCARED TO GO THAT WAY ANYMORE. AND SO THE OTHER ROUTE FOR THEM TO, I GUESS, INTO POCAHONTAS ANOTHER WAY, I'M ALL FOR IT THROUGH THE SITE, THROUGH POCAHONTAS ROAD. STREET. I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING, BUT THE WAY THEY'VE BEEN ENTERING ON MY STREET AND ON THAT STREET, IT JUST WHAT I FEEL LIKE. I FEEL SAFER, AND I FEEL LIKE IT'D BE MORE PRODUCTIVE FOR THEM WITHOUT CARS BEING PARKED ON THE SIDE OF THE STREET. AND THEM COMING DOWN. OR YOU HAVE TO STOP, PAUSE ON ONE SIDE TO LET THE TRUCK GO BY, OR BEING BLINDSIDED BECAUSE YOU CAN'T SEE THEM COMING DOWN THE STREET, BUT YOU'RE ALREADY MAKING YOUR WAY UP. AND THEN HE HAS TO WAIT. OR BACK UP FROM THE STOP SIGN, AND I HAVE TO TURN OFF A ROLFE STREET. IT THE TRUCKS AND THE TRAIL HAS BEEN LIKE A THORN IN MY SIDE SINCE MOVING, AND THAT'S JUST A FEW THINGS THAT I'VE NOTICED. WE'VE ALSO HAD TWO OTHER INCIDENTS OF DUMPING SINCE THE LAST TIME I CAME, AND SPOKE, AND SO IF THAT'S 3 IN 1 MONTH AND THEN PEOPLE DO IT EVERY MONTH, THAT'S 30 TO 40 TIMES A YEAR, PEOPLE ARE DUMPING AND YOU CAN'T MEASURE THE SIZE OF IT, WHETHER IT'S TRASH, WHETHER IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S BIODEGRADABLE, WHATEVER IT IS THAT THEY'RE CONSTANTLY BRINGING TO OUR COMMUNITY. SO IF WE CAN GET SOME CAMERAS, SIGNS, SOME PATROLS, SOMETHING TO DETER THEM FROM DUMPING THERE, THAT WOULD ASSIST SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, ASSIST THE COMMUNITY TOO. SO BETWEEN THE HEAVY TRUCKS, THE TRAIL, WHICH I DON'T MIND HELPING IF WE CAN BRING SOME TOGETHER AND, THE

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BLANFORD AND, I HAVE SEVERAL ISSUES I'D LIKE TO GO OVER. I HAVE ANOTHER APPOINTMENT, BUT I'M JUST GOING TO GIVE YOU THESE THINGS I HAVE. ONE IS, IMPROVE THE TRANSPORTATION TO COLONIAL HEIGHTS FROM 6 TO 1130 AT NIGHT. THERE'S NO TRANSPORTATION. PEOPLE CAN'T MAKE NO MONEY. WORK FROM 66. THE NEXT ONE IS CROSSWALKS COME FROM 36 EAST WASHINGTON STREET COMING TOWARDS, CRATER ROAD. THE CARS RUN THROUGH THERE, RUNS 50 OR 60, 70, 80 MILE PER HOUR SOMETIME. SIGNS. WE DON'T HAVE NO CROSSWALK SIGNS IN THAT AREA FROM 36. I GOT HIT ON, WHAT'S THAT? ONE BLOCK UP FROM MY STREET. I FORGET THE NAME OF IT. CHURCH STREET. I GOT HIT LAST YEAR. I'M STILL HAVING SITUATIONS FROM THAT, POLICE OFFICERS, THEY'RE NOT DOING POLICE REPORTS. NOBODY CAME TO THE. NOBODY CAME TO THE HOSPITAL. SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS WE NEED MORE CROSSWALKS AT THESE STOP SIGNS CROSSING ON WASHINGTON STREET. IT'S NOT. YOU NEED FLASHING SIGNS BECAUSE YOU'RE COMING FROM 36 AROUND THAT CURVE. NIGHTTIME MAN. SEEMS LIKE THEY FOLLOW YOU IF YOU'RE GETTING IN THE LEFT LANE, THEY GET IN THE LEFT LANE, BUT IT'S VERY DANGEROUS, NEXT OF ALL LETTER SIGNS, I'M ALL I'M EVERYWHERE. I'LL BE DOWN.

VIRGINIA STATE TRASH EVERYWHERE BELOW WHERE THE PARK IS, I'LL TAKE BAGS DOWN THERE. I PICK UP TRASH. I PICK UP TRASH IN BLANDFORD, COME FROM THE SCHOOL BUS GARAGE. ARE YOU UP TO. GOD.

ANYWAY ANYWHERE AND THERE'S NO SIGNS. SO YOU CHARGE $50 PER LITTERING FEE. THEY CAN PAY THAT. YOU KNOW, THEY CAN PAY 500. SO 50, 50. TAKE THE FOOD STAMPS AWAY OR SOMETHING. NOW, NEXT ONE IS, MORE ROADBLOCKS. TRY TO GET THE GUNS OFF THE STREET, I LIVE ON NINTH STREET.

ABOUT SIX MONTHS AGO, THE YOUNG GIRL GOT SHOT OFF A CHURCH STREET. NOT OFF CHURCH OFF. OFF OF NINTH BIRCH STREET. THEY DROVE TO THE CORNER AND I LOOKED AT IT. LOOK AT THE GIRL IN THE FRONT. I COULDN'T SEE HER FACE, BUT IT'S A SHAME. I'VE BEEN HERE FOR YEARS AND I KNOW I DON'T WITNESS. NOT WITNESS. LET ME GET THAT RIGHT NOW, IN MY VICINITY. SOMEBODY'S GETTING SHOT, SOMEBODY'S GETTING KILLED. SOMEBODY DIED OF AN OVERDOSE. HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE WE HAD DIED THIS YEAR OF OVERDOSE? HOW MANY PEOPLE GOT HIT? YOU KNOW, THE SAME MAN HIT ME. DIDN'T GET ME THE FIRST TIME, BUT THE SECOND TIME YOU GOT ME, HE RAN THE STOP SIGN. THAT'S WHY I GOT TO SAY.

OKAY THANK YOU. Y'ALL HAVE A GOOD DAY. THANK YOU. NEXT, WE MOVE ON TO ITEM TEN, WHICH IS

[10. Business or reports from the Mayor or other Members of City Council]

AND I THINK WE ALL APPRECIATE WHAT YOU GUYS DID, I'M HOPING THAT COUNCIL CAN START THINKING PROACTIVELY ABOUT HOW TO AVOID REPETITION, BUT I'M SURE THERE WILL BE REPETITION BEFORE WE SOLVE THIS PROBLEM. BUT IN ANY EVENT, IN THE MEANTIME, MR. BARLEY. MR. HARRIS AND YOUR

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AND THEN THERE ALSO IS THE JARED HOUSE THAT MISS GREEN AND COUNCIL AND THE JARED FAMILY AND I ARE ALL VITALLY CONCERNED ABOUT, AND WE'RE WORKING ON, GRANT OPPORTUNITIES TO PLAN A FUTURE USE FOR THE JARED HOUSE. SO ALL OF THAT IS TOP NOTCH. AND I THANK MISS GREEN AND OF COURSE, MISS DOROTHY KELLY AND ALL THE OTHER, STALWARTS IN POCAHONTAS FOR WHAT THEY'VE BROUGHT TO THE TABLE, LET ME TURN AND TALK ABOUT OUR REAL ESTATE TAX RATE, I'M AN ADVOCATE FOR EVERY PETERSBURG TAXPAYER. OF COURSE, THIS INCLUDES HOMEOWNERS. BUT IT ALSO INCLUDES THOSE WHO RENT AN APARTMENT IN PETERSBURG AND WILL FACE AN INCREASE IN THEIR RENT BECAUSE THE ASSESSED VALUE OF THE REAL ESTATE AND CORRESPONDING REAL ESTATE TAXES INCREASED BY AN AVERAGE OF ROUGHLY 15% ACROSS THE CITY, EFFECTIVE JUST JULY. ONE OF THIS MONTH. I'M ALSO AN ADVOCATE FOR NEW BUSINESSES TO BUILD IN PETERSBURG, CREATING JOBS AND ADDING TO OUR TAX BASE.

UNFORTUNATELY PETERSBURG'S HIGH REAL ESTATE TAX RATE DISCOURAGES BUSINESSES FROM BUILDING NEW FACILITIES IN PETERSBURG FOR EXAMPLE. AND THIS SCENE, THIS SENDS STEAM OUT OF MY EARS EVERY TIME I DRIVE WEST ON WASHINGTON STREET. DOMINION ENERGY MR. VAN VOORHEES, WOULD YOU SHOW THAT VIDEO THAT I TOOK THE OTHER DAY, PLEASE? UNFORTUNATELY, MR. CUTHBERT, THE VIDEOS, THE FILES THAT YOU SENT WERE ATTACHED TO YOUR GOOGLE DRIVE, AND WE CAN'T ACCESS YOUR GOOGLE DRIVE, MR. VAN HORNE, HE'S ACTUALLY SENT AN EMAIL REQUESTING EITHER YOU SEND THE FILES THEMSELVES OR GRANT ACCESS TO YOUR GOOGLE DRIVE. ALL RIGHT, WELL, ALL I CAN SAY IS TO BE DETERMINED. THE, I HOPE NEXT TIME I CAN SHOW THIS, IT'LL BE THE BUSINESS MEETING IN SEPTEMBER. SO JUST HANG IN THERE. BUT, DOMINION ENERGY PUT THIS BEAUTIFUL COMPLEX ON WEST WASHINGTON STREET JUST ACROSS THE LINE INTO DINWIDDIE COUNTY. NOW, ON THE TABLE AT THE BACK. AND TO ALL MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, I HAVE GIVEN A TABLE OF REAL ESTATE TAXES, PETERSBURG VERSUS THE CONTIGUOUS COUNTIES. AND I GUESS THIS ALSO IS A VICTIM OF, TECHNOLOGY. BUT IN ANY EVENT, LET ME GIVE YOU THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY. PETERSBURG IS AT $1.27 PER 100. OKAY CHESTERFIELD COUNTY IS AT $0.90 PER 100. THIS IS OUR COMPETITION. $0.37 LESS PER 100 THAN PETERSBURG. LET'S TURN TO DINWIDDIE. ALL RIGHT, COUNCILMAN CUTHBERT, YOU'RE TO BE DETERMINED. WE'LL PICK UP ON THIS IN SEPTEMBER. I'M SURE I'VE GOT YOUR ATTENTION. AND, WE'LL TALK MORE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN JONES. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR, THANK ALL YOU GUYS FOR COMING OUT, I'M SEEING MORE PARTICIPATION AT COUNCIL MEETINGS, AND THEY'RE NEVER. AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THAT. I DON'T HAVE MUCH TO SAY, WE'LL START OFF WITH THE RIBBON CUTTING TODAY AT THE FARMER

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IT EVEN LOOKED BETTER THAN LEGENDS PARK, WITH EVERYTHING UP TO DATE AND OUR KIDS, OUR SENIORS, EVERYBODY DESERVE IT. IT'S NOT JUST FOR KIDS, IT'S FOR EVERYBODY. AND, YOU KNOW, FOR THE FIRST TIME, BECAUSE I GREW UP THERE FOR THE FIRST TIME, I SAW ALL WALKS OF LIFE ENJOYING THAT PARK. I SAW WHITE PEOPLE, BLACK PEOPLE, MEXICAN. I SAW THE WHOLE MELTING POT OUT THERE ENJOYING EACH OTHER AND IN PEACE AND HARMONY LIKE IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE. THAT'S THE PETERSBURG WAY. AND, AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO, THE PARKS AND REC DIVISION. I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO, OUR COUNCIL AND CITY MANAGER FOR MAKING SURE WE SUPPORT THAT EFFORT. NOW, I GOT SOME OTHER THINGS I WANT TO TALK ABOUT. EAST WASHINGTON STREET CORRIDOR. I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO MISS NAOMI AND THE TEAM. WE HAD A SERIOUS TEAM TO BEAUTIFY EAST WASHINGTON STREET CORRIDOR COMING FROM FORT GREG ADAMS ALL THE WAY UP TO CRATER ROAD. AND IT'S GOING TO LOOK MAGNIFICENT. IMAGERY IS EVERYTHING. AND THE WHOLE GOAL IS TO CHANGE THE MINDSET OF THE PEOPLE FROM NEGATIVE TO POSITIVE AND TO SEE SOMETHING BEAUTIFUL AND TO BE BEAUTIFUL AS PEOPLE AND AS A COMMUNITY, WITH THAT BEING SAID, I TOOK NOTICE OF MY MAN THAT TALKED ABOUT THE CROSSWALKS. SO I WANT TO ASK CITY MANAGER TO MAKE SURE WE LOOK INTO PUTTING SOME FLASHING LIGHTS COMING DOWN BECAUSE THEY DO SPEED. YOU KNOW, I'M GOING TO TELL YOU WHAT'S HAPPENING. THEY COME FROM FORT GREG ADAMS IS 45 MILES AN HOUR. WE TOOK THE LIGHTS DOWN, COMING OUT OF CROATAN. SO IT'S NOT AS NONSTOP UNTIL YOU GET TO SLIGO. THEN THEY SPEEDING AGAIN, YOU KNOW.

SO WE NEED TO PUT THOSE LIGHTS BACK IN SLIGO. AND WE NEED TO PUT SOME FLASHING LIGHTS TO LET PEOPLE KNOW, HEY, SLOW DOWN. AND SO THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO TALK ABOUT, ANOTHER THING, I KNOW I TOOK NOTICE OF MISS MARLOW AND EVERYBODY IN POCAHONTAS. WE TALKED ABOUT, THE TRAILS AND THE DUMPING AND THINGS LIKE THAT. IT DON'T COST US NOTHING TO INVEST IN TRAIL CAMERAS. I THINK THEY TWO FOR $100 AND THEY CAN GO ON A FLASH DRIVE. YOU DON'T GOT TO TELL THE PUBLIC THEY'RE OUT THERE. WE'LL CATCH MORE THAN JUST DUMPING AND WE NEED TO BE AGGRESSIVE AND GO AFTER THEM AND ARREST THEM. YOU KNOW, FOR ANY DUMPING ANY I MEAN, YOU MAY THEY MAY DUMP A BODY OUT THERE, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE PETERSBURG PEOPLE USE PETERSBURG AS A DUMPING PLACE. THEY DON'T GIVE A ABOUT PETERSBURG. IT'S ONLY THE PEOPLE HERE TO GIVE ABOUT GIVE A ABOUT PETERSBURG. AND THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO THE OAK HILL PEOPLE. BECAUSE YOU DID WHAT IT TAKES. YOU SHOWED UP, YOU SHOWED UP IN NUMBERS. AND I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW IT'S NOT GOING ON. DEAF EARS. IT HASN'T BEEN GOING ON. DEAF EARS. AND WE WILL HOLD THE CITY MANAGER ACCOUNTABLE AND EVERYBODY ELSE ACCOUNTABLE TO MAKE SURE WE GET THIS BRIDGE FIXED. YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT'S THAT'S IMPORTANT TO US OKAY. SO THANK YOU. YOU SHOWED UP AND THAT'S WHAT IT TAKES, ANOTHER THING I WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS, SO A LADY ASKED, WHERE IS OUR TAX DOLLARS GOING? AND I AGREE WITH THAT. SO, MR. CITY MANAGER, I WANT TO ASK YOU TO PUT A TIE. I WANT TO PUT YOU TO TASK, CREATE A MATRIX, A MATRIX THAT WE CAN SEND OUT TO THE PUBLIC SAYING, THIS IS WHERE YOUR TAX DOLLAR GOES TO FROM A TO Z. YOU KNOW.

SO WE GOT THAT STRAIGHT, NOW I WANT TO LAST BUT NOT LEAST, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THIS WATER THING THAT HAPPENED, MR. BARLEY AND MR. RANDALL AND MR. HARRIS. MY HATS OFF TO YOU GUYS. I KNOW I'M ALWAYS BEATING YOU UP, AND, AND BUT THIS TIME, YOU MOVE QUICK AND YOU MOVE SWIFTLY. AND THE CITY MANAGER WAS ON SITE, SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THAT QUICK MOVEMENT. I JUST WANT TO SEE YOU EARN YOUR MONEY. YOU'RE GETTING PAID A LOT, YOU KNOW, AND YOU DID THAT. YOU GOT YOU MOVE QUICK. ALL RIGHT. AND I WANT TO SAY THANKS FOR THAT REAL QUICK. MR. MAYOR, IF I MAY ASK FOR JUST ONE EXTRA MINUTE, BUT, RIGHT NOW WE'RE GOING TO GO. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. REAL QUICK, I'LL SAY I ENDED WITH THIS. THEN MR. BARLEY. I BOUGHT A SET OF FIRE GEAR OVER THERE. CAN EVERYBODY SEE THAT SET OF FIRE GEAR? I'VE BEEN A FIREMAN FOR OVER 25 YEARS. I VISITED TWO STATIONS TODAY AND YESTERDAY. AND THESE STATIONS DID NOT HAVE AIR CONDITIONING. NOW, CAN YOU GUYS IMAGINE? AND I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT SITTING IN THERE BEING COOL. I'M SAYING WHEN YOU WEAR THAT STUFF OUT THERE AND YOU GO TO A FIRE AND YOU COME BACK AND YOU HAVE NOTHING AND NO WAY, NO MEANS TO COOL YOURSELF OFF, MR. CITY MANAGER, I WANT TO ASK YOU TO IMPLEMENT AN EMERGENCY REPAIR FOR THESE THREE PLACES. COMPANY TWO, COMPANY THREE, AND THE COMMONWEALTH ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO AIR CONDITIONING. WE JUST TALKED LAST WEEK ABOUT PUTTING AIR IN PLACES WHERE THERE'S NOBODY YET. SO WE NEED THOSE EMERGENCY REPAIRS. THEY

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THAT'S CURVE RIGHT BETWEEN THE RAMBLEWOOD SUBDIVISION AND, WILCOX LAKE. SO IT'S, IT WAS AN ACCIDENT THERE, AS WELL AS A DECOMPOSED ROADKILL, A DEER, THAT HOPEFULLY IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS, I KNOW PERIODICALLY THE CITY DOES SEND WORKERS TO COME THROUGH AND CLEAN THAT AREA.

HOPEFULLY THOSE THINGS CAN GET REMOVED. AND THE SIGNS THAT WERE TAKEN DOWN BECAUSE OF THAT ACCIDENT THAT IDENTIFIES THE CURVES ON THE ROAD CAN GET PUT BACK UP PROPERLY, AS WELL. IN THE COURSE OF THE LAST MONTH, I WAS ABLE TO ATTEND THE VIRGINIA LOCAL ELECTED OFFICIALS CONFERENCE UP IN RICHMOND. IT WAS A ONE DAY CONFERENCE, AND AS I STILL FEEL LIKE A NEWBIE, I KNOW COUNCIL MEMBER JONES FEELS LIKE HE'S THE ROOKIE ON HERE, BUT I'M ONLY ONE YEAR AHEAD OF HIM, IT'S GOOD TO GET OUT THERE AND MEET OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS AROUND THE STATE, AND THEY DO HAVE THEIR EYES ON PETERSBURG, THEY DO. WE HAVE OUR SIDE CONVERSATIONS. PEOPLE DO WANT TO HELP. SO I'M LEARNING A LOT, BEING ABLE TO ADDRESS SOME THINGS BEHIND THE SCENES, AGAIN, I'M NOT ONE. IF YOU KNOW ME FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS, I'M NOT GOING TO BE A RAH RAH RAH IN THIS MICROPHONE TO SAY, LOOK AT ME. BUT TO MISS BERTHA, YOU ARE IN MY WARD. SO IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT TAXES, PLEASE GET MY NUMBER AFTER AND WE CAN TALK, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I DO.

I TALK OFFHAND AND I REALLY LIKE TO TOUCH THE, THE RESIDENTS. SO IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO KNOW, I WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE TO SERVE AS YOUR COUNCIL MEMBER AND ANSWER SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS FOR YOU, AND THAT GOES FOR ANYBODY, NOT JUST IN WARD SEVEN, BUT ANYBODY IN THE CITY OF PETERSBURG, BECAUSE WE DON'T ONLY SERVE OUR WARDS, WE SERVE THE CITY. SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I THINK A LOT OF TIMES WE MIGHT NOT WANT TO TALK ON THIS MICROPHONE AND STAGE IN FRONT OF EVERYBODY AND EMBARRASS ANYBODY OR CALL ANYBODY OUT. BUT I SPEAK FOR EVERYBODY ON THIS STAGE THAT WE ARE OPEN AND ABLE FOR CONVERSATION. HEALTHY DIALOG. AND AS, COUNCIL MEMBER HILL, VICE MAYOR HILL, EXCUSE ME, SAID, HOPEFULLY WE CAN JUST KEEP THE VOLUME DOWN BECAUSE IN THESE NEXT 3 OR 4 MONTHS, I DO KNOW THE VOLUME WILL BE TURNED UP LOUD, BUT I DO BELIEVE THE WORK IS DONE ON THE LOCAL LEVEL WITH YOUR CITY LOCAL GOVERNMENT AS WELL AS SOMETIMES YOUR STATE GOVERNMENT. I'M GOING TO SAY THAT SOMETIMES BECAUSE I'VE LEARNED A LOT IN THIS POSITION, AND FINALLY, PEOPLE ALWAYS SAYING THAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR JOBS. BOAR'S HEAD AND INDUSTRIAL PAPER IS STILL HIRING IN WARD SEVEN. SO, IF YOU KNOW SOMEBODY WHO'S LOOKING FOR A JOB, TELL THEM TO LOOK AT THOSE TWO GREAT CORPORATIONS AND INDUSTRIAL PARK IN WARD SEVEN. AND, I DID GET SOME OTHER FACT FINDING THINGS. I WAS ABLE TO GO OUT. I'VE BEEN DOING A LOT OF RESEARCH BECAUSE I DO KNOW THAT A BIG POSITIVE IS COMING FOR THE CITY OF PETERSBURG WITH THIS CASINO REFERENDUM THAT WE VOTED FOR YESTERDAY, I'M GETTING MY FACTS STRAIGHT. AND, IN SEPTEMBER, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A STATEMENT THAT HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW, THE CITY WILL SEE THE POSITIVES.

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MR. MAYOR, I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO JOANNE. WILLIAM. MARY HOWARD AND RICHARD HARRIS.

ALL OF YOU HERE FOR THE CITY. THE CITY MANAGER AS WELL. THERE'S A LOT GOING ON AROUND HERE IN THE CITY OF PETERSBURG. BUT I WANT TO SAY, I WANT TO THANK THEM FOR ALL OF THEIR ENCOURAGEMENT TO KEEP US MOVING THE CITY FORWARD. SO THANK YOU, MIKE. COUNCILWOMAN SMITH, LEE, GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. GOOD EVENING. I JUST WANT TO, SAY THAT THE, THE MAIN WATER BREAK THAT HAPPENED ON ARLINGTON STREET, ON THAT SUNDAY, I WAS ALMOST 100 DEGREES OUT, BUT I TRULY APPRECIATE STEVE STINSON AND MR. BARLEY, AND THE WORKERS, BECAUSE I CAME OUT THERE AND, JOANNE, YOU WERE OUT THERE. MR, MARCH. YOU WERE OUT THERE. THE MAYOR. I KNOW THAT SOME OF YOU THINK THAT WE ARE NOT IN TUNE, BUT WE ARE IN A WHOLE LOT OF WAYS. AND I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT, THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THE CITY OF PETERSBURG IS REALLY OLD. THAT'S WHY WE HAVE A LOT OF PROBLEMS. REALLY, REALLY OLD. AND I KNOW IT TOOK THEM ALMOST, FIVE DAYS TO GET THE MAIN WATER BREAK SITUATION UNDER CONTROL. AND I TRULY APPRECIATE THAT. I KNOW IT WAS, YOU KNOW, A, THE CITIZENS HAD TO BOIL THE WATER AND EVERYTHING, BUT WE STUCK IN THERE, AND YOU PERSEVERE. AND I APPRECIATE THA. ALSO, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND LEISURE SERVICES AND HIS STAFF. PLEASE RIDE BY FARMER STREET PARK. IT'S AMAZING. THE SWIMMING POOL IS OPEN FOR THE KIDS, SO AT ONE POINT THEY WERE SAYING, WE HAVE NOTHING FOR THE KIDS TO DO.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A WHOLE LOT FOR THE KIDS TO DO. WE JUST GOT TO STAY THE COURSE. ALSO OUT THERE AT, THE SPORTS COMPLEX, YOU SHOULD GO OUT THERE AND VISIT THAT THAT COMPLEX, THEY HAVE DONE AN AMAZING JOB. ALSO, I WOULD LIKE TO, ALSO EXTEND A OPEN WELCOME TO THE ACTING. NEW SUPERINTENDENT FOR PETERSBURG PUBLIC SCHOOLS. YES. AND LIKE, WE ARE HERE, WE NEED TO GO TO THE SCHOOL BOARD ALSO. WE ALL NEED TO HOLD EVERYBODY ACCOUNTABLE FOR THINGS. BUT BASICALLY, WE WANT OUR CHILDREN'S CHILDREN HERE IN THE CITY OF PETERSBURG TO GET THE BEST EDUCATION THAT THEY CAN GET. WE WANT THAT FOR THEM AND THEY WANT THAT FOR THEMSELVES.

SO JUST KNOW THAT WE JUST ALL HAVE TO DO OUR PART. ALSO, THAT'S IT, MAYOR, AND THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. NEXT, VICE MAYOR HIL, GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING OUT ON TONIGHT. I JUST WANT TO ADDRESS A COUPLE OF THINGS. I WANT TO THANK PUBLIC WORKS FOR THEIR HARD WORK WITH THE WATER, AND WANT TO THANK THE RESIDENTS FOR JUST PERSEVERING THROUGH THAT DIFFICULT TIME. YOU KNOW, WE LIVE IN A CITY, TOO. YOU KNOW, WE'RE BORN AND RAISED HERE, TOO. SO WE DEAL WITH THE SAME THINGS THAT EVERYONE ELSE DEAL WITH. I WANT TO ALSO, COMMEND, MARQUIS ALLEN ON THE VISION FOR THE CITY WHEN IT COMES TO RECREATION DEPARTMENT. THERE'S ALWAYS SOMETHING GOING ON FOR CHILDREN. ALWAYS. SO FOR THAT, PEOPLE ARE ALWAYS SAYING, AIN'T NOTHING HERE TO DO. THAT'S NOT TRUE. YOU GO ON OUR WEBSITES, IT'S ALWAYS SOMETHING. ONE OF OUR MAJOR THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING NOW, WE HAVE OUR KIDS DOING INTERNSHIP ALL OVER THE CITY. THEY'RE IN EVERY DEPARTMENT, 5 OR 6 KIDS IN EVERY DEPARTMENT DOING INTERNSHIP, AND THEY'RE DOING A GREAT JOB THERE,

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BECAUSE I MET A YOUNG LADY, IT WAS FOR YOUNG LADIES. ONE WAS A SENIOR AT VIRGINIA STATE. THE OTHER ONE WENT TO, HAMPTON UNIVERSITY. AND THEN THE OTHER TWO WERE STUDENTS AT PETERSBURG HIGH. SO IT WAS AMAZING JUST TO SEE THE KIDS OUT DOING AND WORKING AND LEARNING STUDENT GOVERNMENT. I ALSO WANT TO THAN, THE FEEDMORE AND THE GOOD SHEPHERD BAPTIST CHURCH THAT FEEDS, ONCE A MONTH, THAT'S A GREAT THING. I THINK ON LAST LAST WEEK, WE FED OVER 200 RESIDENTS IN THE AREA, NOT JUST PETERSBURG, BUT ALL OVER. AND WHAT HAVE YOU, ON, MORE MORTON AVENUE. AND AT THE END OF MORTON AVENUE AND THEN ANDERSON STREET. INTERCEDES RIGHT THERE. IF YOU GO CREATE A ROAD AND MAKE A LEFT ON MORTON AVENUE, WHERE GOOD SHEPHERD BAPTIST CHURCH IS, THERE IS A PARK THAT'S BACK THERE, SO WE WE'RE TURNING THAT INTO A WALKING PARK. WE HAVE THE GRAVEL THAT'S GOING AROUND RIGHT NOW, AND THEY JUST BUILT THE PAVILION THERE, SO. AND THE NEXT PHASE WOULD BE TO BUILD SOME TREES. MR. RUDOLPH, THEY'RE GOING TO, THEY'RE GOING TO PLANT SOME TREES THERE, AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE GREEN SPACE THERE AS WELL. IT USED TO BE A BASKETBALL COURT, LIKE A SOFTBALL FIELD AT ONE TIME, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE A WALKING PARK WITH GREEN SPACE. YOU'LL BE ABLE TO COME OUT THERE AND HAVE COOKOUTS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. SO I'M VERY PROUD OF THAT, THAT THE CITY IS, HAS HELPED FUNDING THAT THAT PROJECT. THEN ALSO I, WARD TWO, WOULD PROBABLY BE HAVING A MEETING SOMETIME NEXT MONTH.

WE'LL TRY TO GET THE WORD OUT AS SOON AS, AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. AS SOON AS SOON AS I CAN GET THE OKAY FROM GOOD SHEPHERD BAPTIST CHURCH. AND I WANT TO THANK OUR MAYOR PUBLICLY. HE HAS REPRESENTED OUR CITY THROUGH THE UPS AND THE DOWNS AND THROUGH THE POINTING OF THE FINGERS AND ALL OF THAT STUFF. HE WAS JUST AT, AMPAC ON LAST WEEK, REPRESENTING THE CITY IN A MAJOR WAY. AND I, I DIDN'T GO, I HAD TO WORK. AND HE TAKES A LOT OF TIME OFF OF HIS WORK, TO BE OTHER PLACES THAT ALL OF US CAN'T BE. SO I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU. MR. MAYOR, FOR ALL THAT YOU DO FOR THE CITY OF PETERSBURG, YOUR LEADERSHIP HAS YOU HAVE GUIDED US THROUGH, PIVOTAL TIMES, IN THE CITY. AND WE ARE THE BETTER FOR IT. I SAID WE ARE, THE BETTER FOR IT. IF YOU NOTICE, YOU SEE, ALL OF THE BLIGHT AND YOU SEE ALL THE HOUSES AND STUFF AND NEIGHBORHOODS, YOU TYPICALLY WOULDN'T SEE THAT, WARD FOUR, WARD FIVE, WARD SIX, ALL OF THOSE AREAS DELECTABLE HEIGHTS, YOU SEE, GOING DOWN HALIFAX, YOU JUST RIDE DOWN THERE AND JUST LOOK AT ALL THE NEW HOUSES AND NEW RENOVATIONS AND THINGS THAT ARE COMING UP. YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY IS AT PETERSBURG IS REALLY, REALLY THRIVING. AND I UNDERSTAND WE STILL HAVE OUR CHALLENGES, LIKE ANY MUNICIPALITY WILL ALL. AND TO COMPARE US TO THE DENSITIES AND TO THE PRINCE GEORGE AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE, IT'S KIND OF UNFAIR BECAUSE ALL OF THEM, A LOT OF THEIR, A LOT OF THEM COME HERE TO GET SOME SERVICES THAT WE HAVE THAT THEY DON'T HAVE.

YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THEM COME HERE TO GET SERVICES THAT THEY DON'T HAVE THAT WE HAVE. SO, YOU KNOW, TO COMPARE US TO, YOU KNO, THIS PAPER I GOT HERE SAYING THAT WHY IS OUR TAX RATE IS THIS HIGH IF WE GET WHAT WE WANT TO GET, WE'LL BE DROPPING SOME THINGS AROUND. BUT I CAN'T GO INTO THAT RIGHT NOW. BUT I JUST WANT TO THANK THE CITIZENS IN PETERSBURG. I HAD MY SHIRT ON TODAY. YOU ARE PETERSBURG. SO LET'S TALK PROUDLY ABOUT OUR CITY, NOT TALK DOWN. LET'S TALK PROUDLY. IT'S BEEN TOO MUCH NEGATIVITY. LET'S TRY TO TURN THE VOLUME DOWN LIKE THE PRESIDENT ASKED ALL OF US TO DO. WE'RE PRAYING FOR THE TRUMP FAMILY AS WELL AS WITH AS WELL AS WE'RE PRAYING FOR THE BIDEN FANDOM, WHATEVER SIDE YOU ARE ON, THAT'S YOUR THAT'S YOUR OPINION. BUT WE NEED TO TURN THE VOLUME DOWN IN OUR CITY AND IN OUR NATION AND IN OUR STATE.

THANK YOU. MR. MAYOR. ALL RIGHT. LOOK, I LIKE TO THANK EVERYBODY FROM FOR COMING OUT TONIGHT, WE WILL YOU KNOW, WE'VE HEARD YOU LOUD AND CLEAR, LIKE YOU SAID THIS, THIS OAK HILL BRIDGE THING HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR QUITE SOME TIME. I KNOW IT SEEMED LIKE EVERY TIME, FROM BEING ON COUNCIL, WE'RE DEALING WITH BRIDGE CLOSURES, COUNCILMAN COOPER, HOW HOW MANY YEARS WAS THAT SAINT ANDREWS THING BEFORE WE GOT ON COUNCIL DOWN? I THINK IT WAS 15 TO 17. YEAH, WE'RE NOT GOING THAT LONG. WE'RE NOT GOING THAT LONG. WE, YOU KNOW, AND I KNOW OVER ON NORTH PARK DRIVE, WE HAD THE CULVERT THERE WHERE CASSANDRA CONOVER'S HOUSE WAS, WAS SHUT DOWN BECAUSE THAT HAD COLLAPSED. AND, BUT JUST, JUST TO LET YOU ALL KNOW THAT WE, WE ARE DEFINITELY PUSHING FORWARD WITH WITH THIS WE HAVE AN OLDER CITY WITH HUGE INFRASTRUCTURES. WE HAVE OVER $2 BILLION WORTH OF

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THAT IS THE MISSING COMPONENT TO EVERYTHING RIGHT HERE. WE GOT TO HAVE A SUCCESSFUL SCHOOL SYSTEM IN ORDER TO GET THE MUCH NEEDED TAX REVENUE IN ORDER TO BE A VIBRANT CITY SO WE CAN HAVE MUCH GROWTH HERE THAT THAT WE ALL WANT, ALSO, EVERYONE GET OUT FOR THE NATIONAL NIGHT OUT AGAINST CRIME, WHICH IS COMING UP IN IN A FEW WEEKS, AUGUST 6TH, WE ARE ONLY AS STRONG AS OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND OUR COMMUNITY PARTNERS. SO WE ASK YOU ALL TO PLEASE BE OUT. WE WILL BE OUT GOING AROUND TO ALL OF THE MANY, COOKOUTS ACROSS THE CITY, WE HAVE THE TROLLEYS AND POLICE FIRE, AND EVERYBODY WILL BE OUT. AND, ALSO, I WANT TO JUST LET EVERYBODY KNOW AS WE'RE GOING TO KEEP THE CITY MANAGER. ON TOP OF THIS OAK HILL BRIDGE THING. AND HOPEFULLY NEXT MONTH WE'LL GET, GET TOGETHER WITH WHAT HE FOUND OUT AND COME TO YOU AND HAVE A COMMUNITY MEETING AND, AND DISCUSS HOW WE'RE GOING TO MOVE THIS PROJECT ALONG. OKAY. SO, AGAIN, THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING OUT. AND WE WILL KEEP ON DOWN THE AGENDA. WE HAVE ITEM 11, WHICH IS ITEMS REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA. NO ITEMS TONIGH. ITEM TO ITEM 12. YES. AND OUR NATIONAL NIGHT OUT. OKAY. MR. LINWOOD CHRISTIAN WHO I JUST TALKED ABOUT THE NIGHT OUT AGAINST CRIME. HE'S GOING TO BE OUT, LYNN, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO BE AT? THE WHO? YOU'LL BE AT 27 227 SHAW STREET. OKAY FOR THE NIGHT OUT AGAINST CRIME AND RIGHT AND CIVIC, WHICH WAS RIGHT. THANK YOU FOR THAT, LYNN.

WITH VICE MAYOR HALEY TALKED ABOUT US BEING OUT AT THE FORMER, CAMPUS LAST WEEK FOR THE BIG ANNOUNCEMENT. SO. SO JUST TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THOSE FARMER JOBS ARE COMING TO YOU. THANK YOU, LYNN, FOR REMINDING US THAT THIS, FARMER MANUFACTURING JOBS ARE HERE FOR OUR RESIDENTS. AND WE CAN'T STRESS THAT ENOUGH BECAUSE THEY'RE LOOKING TO HIRE PETERSBURG PEOPLE. SO SHAW STREET NIGHT OUT AGAINST CRIME, PLEASE COME OUT. AND WHICH APPLICATION FOR SILICA JOBS,

[12. Finance and Budget Report]

[13. Unfinished Business]

MAYOR VICE MAYOR AND COUNCIL NAOMI SIODMAK, DIRECTOR OF PLANNING. AND THANK YOU, GARRET.

SO I DID WANT TO JUST GO THROUGH SOME SLIDES REAL QUICK. I KNOW WE'VE ALL SEEN A LOT WHEN IT COMES TO THE DIFFERENT PROJECTS THAT ARE GOING ON IN COORDINATION WITH VDOT, SUCH AS THE STAR STUDY AND THE PIPELINE STUDY. AND WE'RE LOOKING TO GET FUNDING FOR THOSE PROJECTS. SO I

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ONCE WE GET SUBMITTED, SHOULD WE BE SELECTED THROUGH THIS PROCESS THAT INCLUDES DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS REVIEWING THESE GRANTS? WE'LL FIND OUT IF WE RECEIVE FUNDING AND SHOULD WE RECEIVE FUNDING. THESE BIG PROJECTS WOULD BE CONSIDERED FOR ADVANCING IN FISCAL YEAR 2028.

SO I'LL JUST START WITH THE PROJECTS THAT WE'VE SUBMITTED FOR FUNDING, AND WE NEED YOUR SUPPORT TO MAKE SURE THEY CONTINUE IN OUR SUCCESSFUL IN THE GRANT APPLICATION PROCESS.

SO I-95 AND WASHINGTON AND WIDTH. SO I JUST WANTED TO DO SOME QUICK HIGHLIGHTS OF SOME OF THE DIFFERENT PORTIONS OF THIS APPLICATION. OF COURSE IT'S ROTATED TO MAKE IT A LITTLE DISORIENTING, BUT WASHINGTON AND WIDTH ARE ACTUALLY RUNNING NORTH SOUTH IN THIS DIRECTION. AND WE'RE LOOKING AT I-95 AND WHERE THEY INTERACT. AND I REALLY WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT BASED ON FEEDBACK AND COORDINATION WITH CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, MODIFICATIONS HAVE BEEN MADE TO THIS PROPOSAL TO INCLUDE KEEPING THE 95 NORTH BOUND BANK STREET OFF RAMP OPEN AND INCLUDING A POTENTIAL ROUNDABOUT. SO I DID WANT TO NOTE THAT THAT'S BEEN INTEGRATED INTO THE PROPOSAL HERE. YOU CAN SEE THAT AT THE END OF BOTH. YES WHAT? TELL ME MORE ABOUT THE ROUNDABOUT, PLEASE. OF COURSE. SO I GUESS THIS IS WHERE THEY'RE TRYING TO MAKE MODIFICATIONS TO ENSURE FLOW OF TRAFFIC LESS CONFLICT POINTS AND SAFETY. SO RIGHT NOW THEY'RE INITIALLY PROPOSING A ROUNDABOUT. BUT THIS IS A CONCEPTUAL. ONCE THEY MOVE FORWARD WITH THE GRANT AND FUNDING, THEY MAY MAKE MODIFICATIONS AS NEEDED. AND IF THERE'S FEEDBACK WHERE A ROUNDABOUT IS NOT PREFERRED, WE CAN DEFINITELY MAKE THAT IN THE MOTION WITH THE RESOLUTION AS WELL. NO, NO, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO IT. I'M JUST I'M FASCINATED BY IT. WHERE IS IT TO BE ON BANK STREET? OH, AT BANK. THANK YOU. YEAH. THE ORIENTATION OF THE DIAGRAM MAKES IT A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT, BUT IT'S AT BANK STREET, I REMEMBER. THANK YOU. PERFECT. THANKS. AND NOW WE'RE KIND OF REORIENTED A LITTLE BIT. WE'RE LOOKING AT BATTERSEA LANE WHERE WASHINGTON STREET AND WIDTH STREET COME TOGETHER AGAIN AT THE END AT THE EDGE OF THE CITY. AND AGAIN, HERE'S A PROPOSAL FOR A ROUNDABOUT, BECAUSE WHAT THIS APPLICATION IS LOOKING TO DO IS MAKE WASHINGTON STREET AND WIDTH STREET TWO WAYS. AND THIS IS THE BEST WAY TO GET THEM TO KIND OF COME TOGETHER IN A NEAT, TIDY WAY TO GO INTO THE SINGLE ROAD. THEY BECOME. AND I JUST WANTED TO SHARE. THIS IS JUST ONE SECTION OF WASHINGTON AND WIDTH. IT'S REALLY SIMILAR THROUGHOUT THE CORRIDOR, BUT AGAIN, SHOWING THAT TWO WAY CONVERSION ON WASHINGTON STREET AND WIDTH STREET INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS TO ADDRESS THAT CONVERSION AND THEN WITH STREET YOU CAN SEE SOME GREEN ON THE EDGES. THAT'S WHERE BICYCLE INFRASTRUCTURE IS CONSIDERED. THEY DIDN'T PUT BICYCLE INFRASTRUCTURE RECOMMENDED ON WASHINGTON STREET BECAUSE WE WOULD LOSE HUNDREDS OF PARKING SPACES. SO WE THOUGHT SINCE THEY'RE SO CLOSE TOGETHER, SO CLOSE TOGETHER WITH STREET WOULD BE A GOOD CORRIDOR FOR THAT INFRASTRUCTURE. AND HERE YOU CAN SEE AGAIN ALL THE WAY ON THE OTHER END, WE'RE LOOKING AT AMELIA STREET, WHERE WE'RE WHERE WE'RE GETTING TO EAST WASHINGTON

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HERE YOU CAN SEE WHAT'S CALLED A TEARDROP DESIGN. THIS IS REALLY SO THESE TWO ROUNDABOUTS WORK IN TANDEM. IF SOMEONE WANTS TO MAKE A COMPLETE LOOP, THEY WOULD USE BOTH OF THESE TEARDROPS TO CIRCULATE. IT'S REALLY TO HELP WITH SOME OF THE VISIBILITY ISSUES THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW.

IF YOU COME OFF THE INTERSTATE ONTO REEVES ROAD, IT'S VERY, VERY DIFFICULT TO MAKE SOME TURNING MOTIONS AND BE ABLE TO SEE THESE ROUNDABOUTS WILL HELP PEOPLE MOVE MORE FREELY AND HAVE LESS CONFLICT AT THOSE STOP SIGNS. HERE'S ANOTHER PROPOSAL THAT WE'RE SUBMITTING FOR FUNDING WAGNER AT NORMANDY ROAD AND HERE YOU CAN SEE THE MAIN IMPROVEMENTS WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE. WE'RE ADDING A RIGHT TURN MOVEMENT FROM NORMANDY DRIVE ONTO WAGNER ROAD. THAT'S THE BIGGEST THING THAT'S BEING MODIFIED HERE, AS WELL AS A LITTLE BIT OF STORMWATER IMPROVEMENTS AS WELL. AND THEN THESE PROJECTS CRATER CRATER CIRCLE AND WAGNER ROAD AS WELL.

REALLY LOOKING AT SOME INGRESS AND EGRESS MANAGEMENT. SO SOME CLOSURES OF DRIVEWAYS THAT ARE IMPACTING THE SAFETY OF THE INTERSECTION, ADDING SOME CROSSWALKS AS WELL AND ADDING SOME SIDEWALKS. ALSO LOTS OF THESE PROJECTS HAVE INTERSECTION LIGHTING AGAIN FOR VISIBILITY AND SAFETY. AND THEN THIS PROJECT IS WELL CRATER CIRCLE AT SOUTH CRATER ROAD AGAIN LOOKING AT DRIVEWAYS THAT MAY NEED TO BE MODIFIED AND CLOSED OFF. ADDING SIDEWALK, ADDING LIGHTING AND ADDING CROSSWALKS WHERE NEEDED. SO WHERE WE GO FROM FROM HERE. SO PROJECTS THAT ARE AWARDED WOULD BE FULLY FUNDED. THERE WOULD BE NO MATCH. THAT'S WHY SMART SCALES ARE A REALLY GOOD WAY TO FUND THESE REALLY LARGE PROJECTS. IT SEEMS FAR WAY OFF, BUT THESE PROJECTS WOULD KICK OFF IN FISCAL YEAR 2028, SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU APPLY, YOU GET CONSIDERED AND THEN YOU'RE NOTIFIED, PRETTY SOON IN 2025, WHETHER YOU'LL BE CONSIDERED FOR FUNDING. THERE'S ALSO A CONTINGENCY INCLUDED JUST TO MAKE SURE SHOULD COSTS GO UP FOR THESE PROJECTS, THAT'S TAKEN IN CONSIDERATION FOR HOW FAR OUT THEY'LL BE. YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THESE PROJECTS LIKE GREAVES ROAD, I-95, $26 MILLION, SOMETHING THAT US PERSONALLY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO FUND, BUT THROUGH SMART SCALE WE COULD. WE'RE STILL WAITING. WE SHOULD HAVE THEM TOMORROW. IT'S JUST BAD TIMING. WASHINGTON. AND WITH THAT I-95 AND I-85 AT I-95, IMPROVEMENTS SHOULD HAVE COST ESTIMATES AS SOON AS TOMORROW OR THE NEXT DAY. AND SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN THAT'S GOING TO BE REALLY HELPFUL FOR OUR REEVES ROAD TO I-95 APPLICATION IS THAT THE TRI-CITIES PLANNING DISTRICT, THEY VOTED TO LEVERAGE $5.2 MILLION TO STRENGTHEN OUR APPLICATION. THAT MEANS SHOULD WE BE AWARDED THAT PROJECT, THE PLANNING DISTRICT WILL SUPPORT IT WITH $5.2 MILLION. SO HERE I HAVE A COUPLE OF SAMPLE MOTIONS. WHETHER THAT'S TO APPROVE THIS RESOLUTION OR TO APPROVE IT WITH AMENDMENTS. LET ME KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. YOU CAN ALSO DENY IT, BUT I RECOMMEND WE APPROVE OR APPROVE OF AMENDMENT. OKAY ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MISS MARK, FOR THE PRESENTATION.

RIGHT. COUNCILMAN CULBREATH, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE RESOLUTION AS PRESENTED TO SUPPORT THE SUBMISSION OF THE LISTED PROJECTS FOR FUNDING THROUGH SMART SCALE. VICE MAYOR HILL SECOND RIGHT MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION IN DISCUSSION. ALL RIGHT, I'LL OPEN IT UP FOR ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON ON THE RESOLUTION. MISS RUDOLPH. THANK YOU. MAYOR PARHAM, BARB RUDOLPH, 1675 MOUNT VERNON STREET, SINCE THIS IS SO COMPREHENSIVE, AND, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T KNOW THE I WOULD ASSUME THAT THE TWO TO BE DETERMINED PROJECTS ARE GOING TO BE THE TWO MOST EXPENSIVE PROJECTS. AM I DOES THAT SOUND CORRECT? THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO. JUST.

LOGIC TELLS ME THAT, BUT, IS THERE IS THIS LIKE A PACKAGE WHERE IT'S ALL OR NOTHING, OR

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AND MAYBE I'LL BE SINCE IT'S THERE'S STILL THIS IS A LONG TERM DEAL THAT'S GOING ON. I MEAN, SINCE NOTHING'S GOING TO HAPPEN FOR WHATEVER THAT IS FOUR YEARS. IT'S, IT'S A FUTURE, THING THAT COULD EVOLVE. AND I HOPE THAT I HOPE THAT AS THE CITY WORKS WITH VDOT, IT CAN EVOLVE. I KNOW ONE THING IS, I DON'T REMEMBER EVER SEEING ENOUGH DETAIL ABOUT THE WASHINGTON WITH STREET TWO WAY PIECE. THE BECAUSE THERE WERE TWO OPTIONS. ONE WHERE THE TWO WAY ONLY WENT AS FAR WEST AS UNION STREET. AND THEN THERE WAS THE OTHER OPTION IS THE ONE THAT APPEARS THAT SHOWED TONIGHT, WHICH WAS IT GOES ALL THE WAY OUT TO WHERE WASHINGTON. AND WITH CONVERGE IN WEST PETERSBUR. AND I JUST THE, THE, QUESTION OR CONCERN THAT I HAVE ABOUT THE, THE SECTION BETWEEN UNION STREET AND, AND THE ROUNDABOUT THAT WAS PICTURED IS THERE ARE SO MANY SIDE STREETS AND THERE'S SO MANY CARS THAT ARE PARKED ALONG THER. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT MEANS A LOT OF STOPLIGHTS OR SOME OTHER KIND OF, TRAFFIC DEVICE ARE GOING TO BE ADDED, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, TO MAKE SOME OF THAT TO WITH ALL THE CARS THAT ARE PARKED THERE TO MAKE BOTH THOSE STREETS, TWO WAY APPEARS TO ME FROM HAVING DRIVEN ON THOSE STREETS, IT WOULD BE I THINK WE WOULD BE GETTING AN INCREASE IN ACCIDENTS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MISS HOWARD. MARY HOWARD, 6 TO 8 SOUTH PARK DRIVE, LET ME COMFORT YOU A LITTLE BIT. IT WAS TWO WAYS BEFORE IT FLIPPED THEM. SO THEY DO WORK. THEY REALLY DO WORK BECAUSE THEY WERE, TWO WAY BEFORE. SO IF IT'S DONE PROPERLY, IT'LL WORK. AND THE REVISIONS WITH THE CASINO COMING BECAUSE WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT.

SO THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT THIS YOUNG LADY IS TALKING ABOUT, I THINK THAT WE REALLY DO NEED TO MOVE FORWARD, BECAUSE I DEFINITELY KNOW THAT CASINO WILL BRING MONEY HERE AND IT'LL BE IT MAKE US ABLE TO DO EVERYTHING THAT WE WAS NOT HAS NOT BEEN ABLE TO DO FOR MANY YEARS.

THAT'S WHERE I AM. OKAY I'M MISS CHESTER. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING, MY CONCERN IS THAT WITH THE ROUNDABOUTS. MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY'RE SAYING. COMING IN OFF OF 95, YOU'RE GOING TO HIT BANK STREET INSTEAD OF THE, EXIT RAMPS THAT WE GOT NOW COMING OFF OF WEST WEST WASHINGTON, EAST WASHINGTON, DOWN WITH DAN WASHINGTON. WE'RE GOING TO STILL BE ABLE TO COME DIRECTLY INTO THAT PART OF THE TOWN, OF THE CITY. SO THE BUSINESS STILL CAN THRIVE IN THAT AREA. IS THAT THE UNDERSTANDING THAT WE ALL HAVE? OKAY. SO WHAT WILL HAPPEN? IS THERE WILL BE EXITS TO WASHINGTON STREET OFF OF 95, THE BANK STREET EXIT, INITIALLY IN THE PUBLIC MEETING THAT WAS HELD BY VDOT HERE WAS GOING TO BE ELIMINATED. BUT AFTER SOME CONVERSATION THAT WE HAD WITH VDOT, THEY'VE AGREED TO LEAVE IT OPEN AND THERE WILL BE A ROUNDABOUT THERE, BUT THAT WON'T BE THE ONLY EXIT OFF. YOU WILL BE ABLE TO EXIT OFF OF 95 ONTO WASHINGTON STREET. OKAY. BECAUSE MY ONLY CONCERN IS THAT IT WON'T GO TOO FAR OUT TO BYPASS DOWN THE CITY DOWNTOWN. THAT WAS ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT WE HAD. IF PEOPLE MISSED THE WASHINGTON STREET EXIT, THEN YOU'RE THERE'S NO OTHER ALTERNATIVE AND YOU'RE IN COLONIAL HEIGHTS. SO VDOT AGREED TO KEEP THE BANK STREET EXIT OPEN AS SOMEONE MISSED WASHINGTON STREET. THEY COULD STILL GET INTO TOWN THROUGH THERE BECAUSE BECAUSE I WAS DISAPPOINTED WHEN WE BYPASSED 295 BYPASS PETERSBURG AND WENT INTO CANADA DRIVE DOWN FURTHER INTO THE PRINCE GEORGE AREA. AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT GOING TO BYPASS THE CITY OF PETERSBURG. THANK YOU. OKAY.

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YEAH. COUNCILMAN, I DEFINITELY CONCUR WITH YOU BECAUSE. BECAUSE IF WE WOULDN'T HAVE SAID THAT TO KEEP THAT BANK STREET AS IT IN THERE, WE WOULD DEFINITELY HAD WHAT YOU SAID, MISS. PEOPLE WOULD MISS PETERSBURG. THAT WOULDN'T HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET OFF. BUT, BEING ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE US BY PUTTING THAT ROUNDABOUT THERE TO KEEP THE TRAFFIC MOVING BECAUSE THE CONCERN WAS BANK STREET IS SUCH A SHORT EXIT OFF OF 95, THEY WANT TO BE ABLE TO KEEP THAT TRAFFIC MOVING AND NOT SITTING AT THAT STOP SIGN, WHICH IS LIKE SO MANY OF OUR OTHER EXITS IN PETERSBURG, ARE SO DATED THAT THEY COME TO A STOP SIGN AND TRAFFIC JUST PILES UP LIKE A WASHINGTON STREET. LIKE RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW THAT THAT TRAFFIC IS PILING INTO THE HIGHWAY. SO THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN CUTHBERT, FOR THAT, FOR CLARIFYING THAT. AND I HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND.

AND AT THIS TIME, MISS HILL, COULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? YES, SIR. COUNCIL MEMBER CUTHBERT, COUNCIL MEMBER. JONES, COUNCIL MEMBER. MYERS COUNCIL MEMBER. WESTBROOK. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER. SMITH AYE. VICE MAYOR. HILL. AYE. MAYOR AYE, SIR. THAT MOTION CARRIES. NEXT IS ITEM 13 B, WHICH IS CONSIDERATION FOR APPROVAL OF THE PURCHASE AGREEMENT BY ORDINANCE TO APPROVE THE PURCHASE AGREEMENT FOR THE SALE OF CITY OWNED PROPERTY AT 101 WEST WASHINGTON STREET. MISTER MOORE. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING, MISTER MAYOR. MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, PUBLIC, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO COME BACK. THIS IS THE SECOND PIECE, AS YOU REMEMBER EARLIER, WE HAD APPROVED THE SALE OF THE PROPERTY, WE'RE GOING TO SHOW YOU THIS IN A LITTLE BIT, WE WANT TO THANK YOU BECAUSE JUST BY DOING THAT INITIAL PIECE, WE'VE ACTUALLY PICKED UP SOME COMMUNITY PARTNERS, AND YOU HAD ASKED US TO COME BACK WITH A RENDERING OF THE BUILDING. BUT WHEN WE STARTED, IT WAS TWO STORIES, 30,000. IT'S UP TO FIVE STORIES, 75,000. WE'VE GOT A LOT OF GREAT COMMUNITY PARTNERS. SO WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND START WITH THE SLIDES, PLEASE. I GUESS THEY'RE IN THE PACKET. YEP ALSO WITH THAT INCREASE, WHILE WE'RE GETTING THE SLIDE UP TO YOU THAT HAS MOVED OUR DOLLAR FIGURE, THE BUILD PRICE IS $17 MILLION.

$215,900 PER YEAR IN REVENUE. THINGS THAT WE USE PROJECTS FOR. ALL RIGHT. HE'S GETTING THERE.

THERE WE GO. THANK YOU. MANY OF THESE ARE FROM THE ORIGINAL PRESENTATION. JUST TO BACKFILL YOU AGAIN, WE HAVE, DOCTOR HIRSCH HERE. HE'S HERE WITH HIS LEGAL TEAM. SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD, THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. AGAIN, STILL BUILDING THIS, CENTER. I WON'T BORE YOU WITH THAT NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. PROJECT AREA. NEXT SLIDE OVERVIEW. AND THE NEXT SLIDE.

SEE SOME OF THE ACTUALLY ON THE GROUND, THE BUILDING. MISTER MOORE, COULD YOU KIND OF SLOW DOWN BECAUSE WE HAVE SOME RESIDENTS WHO TYPICALLY DON'T COME TO CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS.

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THIS IS THE PROJECT AREA. THIS IS RIGHT ACROSS FROM TRANSIT, ARNOLD PENN IS TO THE RIGHT. YOU HAVE THE OPEN SPACE AND THEN THE CHURCH TO THE LEFT. AND ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE CHURCH IS WHERE WE'RE STANDING. AND ALSO THE FLATS. THERE'S ANOTHER APARTMENT COMPLEX BEHIND US THAT WOULD BE TO THE NORTH. SO THAT WOULD BE THE NORTH, SOUTH, EAST, WEST OF THE PROJECT AREA. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. JUST AN OVERVIEW THAT SHOWS YOU A LITTLE MORE HIGHER LEVEL. AGAIN, YOU SEE THE CHURCH. YOU SEE THE OTHER ENTITIES. YOU CAN SEE THE TRANSIT CENTER. YOU ALSO SEE WHERE WE'VE GOT OUR VETERANS SUPPORT CENTER. THAT'S OVER IN THE 22 WEST WASHINGTON OKAY.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. AND THESE ARE THE ACTUAL PICTURES. THERE'S OUR BEAUTIFUL TRANSIT CENTER WITH THAT 282 CAR PARKING DECK. SO FOR THE RESIDENTS IF YOU DON'T MIND, THE BUILDING WILL GO RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM TRANSIT IN THAT FIELD. YEAH. JUST SO YOU CAN GET ACCLIMATED. YOU CAN'T SEE THEM, BUT THEY'RE LOOKING. WHAT? CONFUSED ON THEIR FACE. SO I CAN SEE THEM. OKAY, OKAY.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU. THAT'S THE REASON I TOLD YOU TO SLOW DOWN. SO. ALL RIGHT. GO AHEAD. SO THIS WOULD BE LIKE IF YOU'RE STANDING RIGHT IN THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING AND YOU'RE LOOKING RIGHT AT TRANSIT, IF YOU'RE ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE BUILDING, THAT WOULD BE THE ARNOLD PENN AND THE OLD HARLOW HARDY COUNTY BUILDING. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. LOOKING WEST, YOU'LL SEE SAINT JOSEPH'S CATHOLIC CHURCH. ALSO WEST. YOU SEE THE WESTERN HALF OF UNION FLATS. THIS APARTMENT COMPLEX AND THE NEXT PICTURE IS THE EASTERN HALF OF UNION FLATS. OKAY AGAIN, A LOT OF THE COMMUNITY SUPPORT WE'VE BEEN RECEIVING IS BECAUSE OF THE WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE IN THE COMMUNITY REACHING OUT AS FAR AS THINGS, PROJECTS LIKE THE HEALTH HUB, WORKING WITH THE PHARMA. SO THERE'S A LETTER OF SUPPORT FROM DOCTOR WOODCOCK IN THE PACKET. IF YOU GO BACK ONE BACK, PLEASE, TONIGHT WE ACTUALLY HAVE THE CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER HERE, MISS DESTINY DESCHENE. SHE'S HERE. I SAW I THOUGHT I SAW DOCTOR JOSE, THE PRESIDENT OF MEDICAL AFFAIRS. SO THEY WERE HERE. SO AGAIN, WE'VE GOT GREAT SUPPORT THERE. NEXT SLIDE PLEAS. ANOTHER PARTNER WHO WILL HAVE OFFICES HERE IS DOCTOR JEFF BROWN. HE'S THE PRESIDENT OF VASCULAR SURGERY ASSOCIATES. AN EMERGENCY OPERATION OKAY. WELL I HAVE EMERGENCY. ALL RIGHT. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. AGAIN WE'RE HERE FOR THE APPROVAL OF THE AGREEMENT. AT THIS TIME, MR. GARRETT, IF YOU'LL PUT BACK THE, THE INITIAL JPEGS YOU HAD. ON THE BACK OF YOUR PACKET. THIS IS THE RENDERING THAT YOU ASK US TO BRING FORWARD. AS YOU CAN SEE, THE SIGNAGE WOULD BE WHATEVER, THE ENTITIES WILL BE. AGAIN, IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THIS AGAIN, WE'RE THAT CAR. IS TRENT THAT LITTLE IT ALMOST KIND OF LOOKS LIKE MY OLD SONATA THERE. TRANSITS ACROSS THE STREET WHERE THOSE FOLKS ARE WALKING DOWN THERE, WALKING TOWARDS THE CHURCH, AND THEY'RE WALKING TOWARDS THE LIBRARY. YOU'LL SEE SOME OF THE GRAY MASSINGS AND THE WHITE MASSINGS IN THE BACK. THOSE ARE BUILDINGS THAT ARE IN THE DOWNTOWN CURRENTLY. AND IF YOU CAN SHOW THE NEXT JPEG, PLEASE. OKAY THIS WAS FROM THE MEETING WHEN WE CAME. THIS IS OFF OF THE BOARD. SO BASICALLY IT SHOWS THE LAYOUT. YOU'LL SEE THE 15,000 SQUARE FOOT FOOTPRINT FOR THE PROJECT WOULD GO, YOU'LL SEE THE PARKING NOT ONLY WILL HAVE THE ON SITE PARKING, BUT WE'LL ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO USE THE PARKING DECK THAT THE PARKING DECK IS LESS THAN A HALF A BLOCK WALK. AND LAST TIME WE ROLLED IN THERE, YOU THERE'S PROBABLY 5 OR 6 CARS. THERE'S A COUPLE OF ELECTRIC CHARGERS. AND A TOP NUMBER ON THE TOP IS 282.

SO WE COULD REALLY GET SOME GOOD USE OUT OF THAT DECK. SO AT THIS POINT, I'LL STOP FOR ANY QUESTIONS. OR YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE MED TEAM, BUT WE WOULD ASK FOR YOUR APPROVAL OF THIS DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. ALL RIGHT. VICE MAYOR HILL, MR. MAYOR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE PURCHASE AGREEMENTS BY ORDINANCE TO APPROVE THE PURCHASE AGREEMENT FOR THE SALE OF THE CITY OWNED PROPERTY AT 101 WEST WASHINGTON STREET. COUNCILWOMAN SMITH LEE. SECOND, MR. MAYOR IF I MAY, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, COUNCIL IS AWARE BEFORE ADOPTING THIS, THE PURCHASE AGREEMENT THAT'S IN YOUR PACKAGE. DIGRESSES IN A NUMBER

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BUT, WE MISSED THAT. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT THAT YOU WERE AWARE OF THAT, IN GOING FORWARD. AND IF YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT, THAT'S FINE. BUT I DIDN'T HEAR IT GET MENTIONED DURING THE PRESENTATION. OKAY. COUNCILMAN COOPER, THANK YOU, MR. WILLIAMS, FOR YOUR INPUT. I, I WASN'T CONCERNED BY THE FIRST TWO OF YOUR COMMENTS, BUT, THE LAST ONE CAUGHT MY ATTENTION, AND THAT WAS, A RESTRICTION ON SALE TO NONPROFITS THAT WOULD JUST CUT THE GIZZARD OUT OF, REAL ESTATE TAX REVENUE IF IT WERE TO HAPPE, WAS THAT A STICKING POINT IN NEGOTIATIONS? HOW? APPARENTLY S. AND I WOULD LET MR. MOORE ELABORATE FURTHER, BUT, COUNCIL HAD GIVEN SPECIFIC DIRECTION ON THIS PROPERTY TO HAVE THAT INCLUDED IN THE PURCHASE AGREEMENT. I BELIEVE IT WAS PROPOSED AND THEN WAS REMOVED FROM WHAT, IN FRONT OF YOU. AND SO I, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ISSUE WAS IN THE DISCUSSIONS. I'M GUESSING THAT THE, PURCHASER WAS NOT INTERESTED IN HAVING THAT PROVISION INCLUDED. DO WE NEED TO GO INTO CLOSED SESSION TO DISCUSS THIS? I CAN ANSWER THAT IF YOU'D LIKE. PLEASE OKAY.

WELL, WHEN THE DISCUSSION WAS BROUGHT UP, THEY HAVE NO INTENTION OF SELLING IT TO A NONPROFIT. BUT ALSO WE HAVE ENTITIES IN THE CITY THAT ARE NON-PROFITS. THEY FLOW CIVICA THAT ARE ACTUALLY NONPROFIT CORPORATIONS. THAT WOULD BE THEY COULD NOT SELL TO, THE AGREEMENT IS WE'VE GOT THE LEGAL FOLKS HERE, AGAIN, I DON'T THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE A PROBLEM OF THEM SELLING TO A NONPROFIT. THIS IS A FOR PROFIT ENTITY. AS YOU CAN SEE, THEY'RE GETTING READY TO BUILD VERY LARGE. YOU'VE GOT GREAT COMMUNITY SUPPORT. SO I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS DOCUMENT. I CAN WELL, YEAH, BUT THIS IS BRINGING UP AN ECHO OF A EARLIER DISCUSSION WE HAD WITH BON SCORES. AND WE COULD HAVE LOST A HUMONGOUS AMOUNT OF TAX REVENUE. I CAN'T BE MORE SPECIFIC, BUT THIS THIS IS TERRIBLY IMPORTANT. I MEAN, I THINK THE PROJECT IS WONDERFUL, BUT WE GOT TO LOOK DOWN THE ROAD AND CERTAINLY THE IMMEDIATE, DEVELOPER IS FOR PROFIT, BUT YOU KNOW, 25 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD OR 15 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD OR FIVE YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, WE GOT TO LOOK AT THAT ALSO, I MEAN, WE COULD PUT THAT IN AS AN AMENDMENT. I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT AMENDMENT, MADE. YEAH. IF I MAY, CAN I MAKE A MOTION? HOLD ON. LET ME CHIME IN FIRST WITH THE CITY MANAGER, MR. ALTMAN. CAN CAN CAN YOU GIVE COUNCILMAN COOPER SOME SOME INFORMATION AS FAR AS WHERE WE ARE? BECAUSE I KNOW WE HAVE A AGENDA THAT GOES OUT. AND I KNOW ALL THESE THINGS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE VETTED BETWEEN, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND THE CITY ATTORNEY. SO I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT NOW, I'M USED TO BRINGING YOU ALL THE CAKE THAT'S FULLY BAKED. SO, SO, SO ARE WE SAYING THE CAKE ISN'T BAKED AND IT'S IN THE PACKET AND MR. CAN YOU GIVE US SOME FEEDBACK OF DO YOU HAVE EVERYTHING ALIGNED THE WAY IT'S SUPPOSED TO OR WHAT. WELL I THINK WHAT WE HAD WAS, ESSENTIALLY THE CAKE WASN'T FULLY BAKED, BUT I THINK IT'S AN EASY REMEDY IF THERE'S AN OPTION TO AMEND THE AGENDA, AMEND THE MOTION TO INCLUDE THAT THAT PROVISION AND COUNCIL COULD MOVE FORWARD. I BELIEVE THE VICE MAYOR WAS PROBABLY GOING TO DO THAT, YEAH. WE TYPICALLY WE ABSOLUTELY PRIDE OURSELVES ON MAKING SURE EVERYTHING'S DONE, AND OBVIOUSLY IN THIS INSTANCE WE HAVE A LITTLE CROSSOVER WIRE, BUT I THINK THAT WE CAN EASILY RESOLVE IT HERE AT THE DAIS AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROJECT.

AS THE MR. COUNCILMAN CUTHBERT SAID, THIS IS A VERY GOOD PROJECT. WE DO HAVE A STICKING POINT. IN THAT WE DON'T WANT TO, IN THE FUTURE, LOSE TAX REVENUE, AND THAT REALLY COMES DOWN TO WHETHER THE NONPROFIT DESIGNATION ON THE REAL ESTATE TAX END IS, IS ONE THAT YOU

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SO I THANK EVERYBODY FOR THAT. AND INCLUDING THE DEVELOPERS. YES. THIS IS A WONDERFUL PROJECT. WE WANT TO SEE IT GO FORWARD. YES. BUT WE GOT TO LOOK TO THE FUTURE TO PROTECT THE CITY. YEAH. ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT. TO RESTATE THE MOTION OR WE'RE GOOD. WE HAVE A MOTION A SECOND WITH WITH AMENDED INCLUDED, IF THERE'S NO NO MORE COMMENTS. MISS HILL, COULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL COUNCILMEMBER CUTHBERT? AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER. JONES. AYE.

COUNCIL MEMBER. MYERS. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER. WESTBROOK. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER. SMITH. AYE. VICE MAYOR. HILL. AYE. MAYOR. AYE. MOTION CARRIES. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU GUYS. AND LOOK LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING SEEING THIS DEVELOPMENT MOVE. MOVE FORWARD. AND THANK YOU AS ALWAYS DESTINY.

THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT TONIGHT. WE THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO AT THE HOSPITAL THERE FOR US OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. NEXT WE HAVE ITEM C WHICH IS DISPOSITION OF CITY OWNED PROPERTY SALE OFFERS FROM 50% TO 100% OF ASSESSED VALUES. MR. MOORE. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, THIS IS AN ITEM. IF WE'LL GO AHEAD AND BRING THE SLIDES UP. THIS IS THE FOR CONSIDERATION OF MOVING, FROM 50% OF THE VALUE ASSESSED VALUE FOR SALE TO 100, BUT ALSO WHAT WE'RE DEVELOPING A POTENTIAL CATALYST PROJECT LIST. MANY OF THE SLIDES ARE SIMILAR TO WHAT WE HAD PREVIOUSLY, SO WE'LL JUST GO SLOW AGAIN. WE'VE GOT NEW FOLKS HERE. BASICALLY, THIS WAS ORIGINAL PROCESS, 50% OF ASSESSED VALUE. THERE WERE NO DIFFERENTIATIONS SUCH AS VACANT INDUSTRIAL, BUSINESS, INDUSTRIAL AND BUSINESS, RESIDENTIAL, RESIDENTIAL, VACANT LOT AND BUILDABLE OR RESIDENTIAL VACANT LOT. NOT BUILDABLE FOR SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING. CURRENTLY THEY'RE WORKING ON SOME OF THE ZONING TEXT AMENDMENTS WHICH WILL ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE ISSUES. THIS HAS BEEN A PREVIOUS PROCESS BRINGING THE DRAFTS TO COUNCIL. AND THEN IF IT WAS APPROVED TO MOVE FORWARD, WE WOULD BRING IT TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. IT WOULD BE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. AND THEN SCHEDULED FOR A PUBLIC HEARING. IF APPROVED, IT WOULD BE A BY ORDINANCE. IT WOULD BE ACTUALLY AUTHORIZED AND WE WOULD EXECUTE THE PURCHASE AGREEMENT. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. OKAY. SO THIS WAS THE LETTER OF INTENT PROCESS WITH THE LOI MEETS THE BASELINE REQUIREMENTS. IT WOULD BE INSERTED INTO A DRAFT OF THE CITY'S STANDARD PURCHASE AGREEMENT. SO IT WOULD BE AT THE BEGINNING. IT WOULD BE ALLOWED NO ALLOWS FOR CHANGES UNLESS THEY DESIRED. AND THEN WE WOULD PROBABLY HAVE TO WORK WITH THAT, DISCUSSION IN THE OPEN SESSION.

WE DID NOT DO THAT BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE ADVERSE. THAT'S WHY WE WENT INTO CLOSED SESSION WITH THOSE PARTICULAR ITEMS. NEXT SLIDE. AND THIS WAS JUST THE TEXT FOR THAT CLOSED SESSION AGENDA. SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAD RUN INTO THE PAST, THESE ARE THE SAME AS THE PREVIOUS PRESENTATIONS. PEOPLE ON FREE LAND, BUILDINGS, SUBMITTALS FOR $1 OR LESS THAN THE 50% REQUEST FOR PERSONAL UNSECURED LOANS FOR DEVELOPMENT OF PROPERTY, AND A REQUEST FOR THE CITY TO PAY ALL PRE-DEVELOPMENT COSTS. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. WE'VE ALSO HAD REQUESTS FOR THE CITY TO PAY FULL HOOKUPS SUBMITTALS FOR 14 OR LESS THAN 50% OF THE ASSESSED VALUE, AND THEN TRYING TO ADD PROPERTIES AFTERWARDS. THE NEXT SLIDE. SOME OF THE CONSIDERATIONS THIS IS A NEW SLIDE. THE CITY DOES MAINTAIN COSTS TO CUT THESE YARDS. OKAY SO ALL THE ONES THAT ARE CITY PROPERTY, WE HAVE TO CUT OR WE HAVE TO GET CONTRACTORS TO CUT. SO WE'RE ENDURING COSTS. MANY OF THE LOTS ARE NOT BUILDABLE AND WOULD BE USED AS SIDE YARDS OR DEVELOP BUILDABLE LOTS. I THINK WE'RE GETTING ANOTHER AS WE HAD IN ONE OF THE CASES LAST TIME. WE'RE GETTING THAT WORKED OUT WITH THE ZONING TEXT AMENDMENTS. OKAY, YOU'VE ASKED ME TO BRING FORWARD A MINIMUM PROPOSED PRICE

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GET THEM TO SIGN IT. BRING IT TO THE ACCOUNT. THE COUNCIL AND THEN PRESENT IT IN CLOSED SESSION. WE WOULD ALSO DO. EXCEPTIONAL CIRCUMSTANCES MAY BE CONSIDERED IF WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. WE WOULD DEVELOP A LIST OF CATALYST SITES. THESE WOULD BE SITES THAT WOULD BE YOU COULD CONSIDER THAT WOULD NOT HAVE TO BE THE 100. AND WE COULD RUN THAT THROUGH CITY COUNCIL AND A CITY MANAGER FOR YOUR APPROVAL. SO THAT IF WE RECEIVE PURCHASE REQUESTS FOR THOSE SITES, WE WOULD GO AHEAD AND BRING THAT FORWARD TO YOU. SO ONE SITE I CAN THINK OF RIGHT AT THE BEGINNING WOULD BE TITMUS, BUT WE WOULD ALSO WORK WITH YOU AND YOUR WARDS. SO THERE'S A DRAFT ORDINANCE ON THE BACK IF YOU WANT TO SET IT AT 175, USE THE CATALYST, WHATEVER YOU DECIDE TO DO, WE'LL IMPLEMENT THAT AND WE WILL GET THE PROJECTS WE RUN THROUGH AND BROUGHT BACK TO YOU. SO, MR. MAYOR, STOP AT THIS POINT AND WAIT FOR ANY QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT, THANKS FOR THE PRESENTATION. MR. MOORE, I JUST WANTED TO ASK TO START OFF WITH THE FIRST QUESTION. WHAT DO THE OTHER SURROUNDING AREAS DO AS FAR AS WITH THEIR, PROPERTIES, EXCESS PROPERTIES THAT ARE FOR SALE? ARE THEY AT 50% OR WHAT? DO YOU KNOW, MR. CITY MANAGER? THE RICHMONDS OF THE WORLD, MORE OF THE URBAN CITIES LIKE PETERSBURG. WHAT WHAT WAS GOING ON IN HOPEWELL, THE COMMUNITIES THAT I'VE WORKED IN THROUGHOUT MY CAREER TYPICALLY HAVEN'T HAD A HARD LINE NUMBER OR PERCENTAGE THAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR, THE THOUGHT HAS BEEN THE PREVAILING THOUGHT HAS ALWAYS BEEN TO FOCUS ON THE INVESTMENT THAT WAS BEING MADE VERSUS THE SALES PRICE OF THE PROPERTY, A LOT OF THEM ARE REVOLVING AROUND LARGER PARCELS OF PROPERTY. THAT WOULD BE FOR LARGER BASIC INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT TYPE SCENARIOS. WE'RE LOOKING AT MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF TAX REVENUE. SO THE THOUGHT OF GIVING A LITTLE BIT, GIVING THE PROPERTY AS PART OF THAT DEAL WAS, WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS WASHED OUT BY THE INCREASE IN REVENUE. I THINK HERE THE PIECE WE'RE DEALING WITH THAT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN MOST COMMUNITIES IS WE HAVE A LOT A LOT OF SMALL RESIDENTIAL LOTS. AND THE THOUGHT WOULD BE YOU'D WANT TO GET THOSE OFF, OFF YOUR HANDS AND BACK ON THE TAX ROLLS. SO I GUESS THE QUESTION WOULD BECOME IS THE 100% MAKING IT LESS INVITING TO PURCHASE AND MAKE THAT INVESTMENT? BECAUSE WHATEVER. YOU KNOW, MR. MOORE MAKES THE ANALOGY OF THE REAL ESTATE AGENT VERSUS THE MORTGAGE COMPANY. I WOULD LOOK AT IT FROM A PERSPECTIVE OF IF WE CAN HELP FACILITATE THROUGH A REDUCED PRICE, SOMEONE NOW HAVING EQUITY IN THE PROPERTY, THAT HELPS THEM, THEN GET THE LOAN TO MAKE THE PROJECT HAPPEN. WE BENEFIT FROM THE LONG TERM TAX REVENUE, AND I'LL BE SELFISH BECAUSE I BALANCE AND WE BALANCE A BUDGET OFF OF LONG TERM TAX REVENUE, NOT THE ONE TIME SALE PIECE. SO I'M ALWAYS INTERESTED IN THE REVENUE THAT'S GOING TO BE GENERATED BY THE ULTIMATE PROJECT OR THE DEVELOPMENT, THE HOUSE, THE OFFICE BUILDING, WHATEVER THAT MAY BE. SO I THINK YOU'LL FIND A LOT OF COMMUNITIES MAY NOT HAVE A PUBLISHED PERCENTAGE, BECAUSE A LOT OF THAT IS HAPPENING AS PART OF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATION. THAT'S OCCURRING, IN CLOSED BEHIND, CLOSED DOORS, DEPENDING UPON THE PROJECT. YEAH. AND IT'S AND I WOULD PROBABLY SAY THAT THEY'RE DEALING WITH MUCH FEWER LOTS THAN WE ARE. WE HAVE A LARGE INVENTORY OF THESE SINGLE FAMILY LOTS. MOST COMMUNITIES DON'T HAVE THAT TYPE OF INVENTORY.

IT'S MAINLY LARGER, MORE, STRATEGIC PROPERTIES THAT THEY HAVE PURCHASED OR HAVE DEVELOPED FOR BUSINESS OR INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT, NOT RESIDENTIAL. OKAY. AND THE ROUNDABOUT

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BUT WE WE'RE NEGOTIATING. YOU CAN BRING IT TO COUNCIL AND WE CAN GO FROM THERE, FROM ANY PARTICULAR PROJECT. YOU KNOW, IF IT'S SOMEONE WHO'S JUST TRYING TO ENLARGE THEIR YARD NEXT DOOR TO THEM BECAUSE WE GOT A LOT OF THOSE, YOU KNOW, JUST LOTS OF NEXT DOOR OR WHAT HAVE YOU. YOU KNOW, THAT MAY BE ONE THING, BUT IF WE START, I DON'T WANT TO CHERRY PICK. BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, I DON'T WANT SUCH A HARD NOSED LINE. AND THEN WE END UP MISSING OUT ON ON A GREAT DEAL. SO, I'M NOT REALLY IN FAVOR OF THE 100. I'M MORE IN FAVOR OF. LET US MAKE THE FLOOR 50% AND THEN NEGOTIATE FROM THERE, ESPECIALLY IF WE HAVE SOMEWHAT OF A BARGAINING WAR OVER THAT PARTICULAR PROPERTY. AND WE CAN GO FROM THERE. SO AND VICE MAYOR AND THAT'S AND THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE HAVE NOW IS IT'S, PETERSBURG PROPERTY HAS, HAS, HAS BECOME HOTTER THAN EVER. AND REALLY THAT THAT 50% WAS PUT IN THERE BACK WHEN THINGS WAS, WAS TOUGH IN WHICH PEOPLE WAS ASKING FOR WAY UNDER 50. SO WE PUT THAT AS A, AS SOMETHING BECAUSE EVERYONE WANTED TO COME HERE AND WANTED TO SAY, YEAH, WE'RE GOING TO BUILD YOU A HOUSE HERE. GIVE US THIS PROPERTY FOR A DOLLAR.

SO THEY KIND OF ELIMINATED PEOPLE WANTING THE, THE, THE DOLLAR DEALS TO GIVE UP LAND FOR DEVELOPERS TO BUILD. SO IT KIND OF SET A FLOOR. SO THE DEALS WEREN'T GOING TO BECOME AS OUTRAGEOUS AS THEY WERE, LET'S SAY EIGHT YEARS AGO. COUNCILMAN JONES. YES. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I, I AGREE WITH, KEEPING THINGS NEGOTIABLE, BUT I THINK, WE'RE AT FAULT IN A LOT OF WAYS.

ONE, WHEN SOMEBODY WANT TO BUY SOMETHING, THEY SEE THE PRICE OF IT. NINE TIMES OUT OF TEN, THEY'RE GOING TO COME TO YOU AND SAY, THAT'S THE PRICE I SEE. THAT'S THE PRICE. I'M GOING TO PAY FOR IT, AND WE GOT THIS 50% ON THE WEBSITE. AND IF WE VOTE ON THIS, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE 100% ON THE WEBSITE. THAT'S OUR FAULT. WHAT SHOULD BE LISTED IS WHAT'S LISTED. IF THE PRICE IS $3,000 FOR THE PROPERTY, YOU KNOW, IF THEY WANT TO BARGAIN WITH YOU, SAY, LOOK, I KNOW IT'S 3000. I'LL OFFER YOU THIS. THAT'S THE NEGOTIATION PART THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. AND I'M OKAY WITH THAT, BUT WE'RE TELLING THEM TO COME AND BUY THIS STUFF FOR 50, BECAUSE IT'S LISTED. IT'S OUT THERE ON THE WEBSITE. IF WE TAKE THAT DOWN AND JUST LET THE PEOPLE, LET US NEGOTIATE. Y'ALL NEGOTIATE IF THEY WANT TO PAY 3000 FOR IT OR WHATEVER IT COSTS US, YOU KNOW, AND THEY WANT TO MAKE A DEAL. YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU SAID, PROJECT BASED OR WHATEVER, AND I'M OKAY WITH THAT. BUT WE HAVE THIS STUFF, THIS VERBIAGE ON OUR WEBSITE SAYING, THIS IS GIVE US 50% AND WE'RE SATISFIED WITH THAT. AND WE'RE NOT ALL THE TIME, YOU KNOW, IN SOME CASES WE ARE SOME CASES WE'RE NOT. SO I THINK WE SHOULD STRIKE THE HUNDRED PERCENT AND KEEP THE NEGOTIABLE. I ALSO THINK WE SHOULD TAKE THAT VERBIAGE OFF OF THE WEBSITE SAYING IT'S 50. YOU NEED TO JUST SAY, THIS IS THE PRICE OF THE PROPERTY, LIST THE INVENTORY AND LET THEM COME TO YOU WITH A PRICE LIKE THAT. THINK THAT'S HOW IT USED TO BE VERBIAGE, BECAUSE I THINK IT WAS 50% TO COME TO COUNCIL BECAUSE, I MEAN, AT ANY POINT YOU COULD HAVE THE REASON WHY WE DID IT.

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THAT'S WHY WE GO TO, THINGS THAT'S NOT CONSIDERED. AND YOU CAN YOU CAN ALWAYS SAY NO, I KNOW THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GO FOR THIS. SO. SO YOU KNOW THAT WE'RE NOT GOING FOR ANYTHING UNDER 50.

AND YOU KNOW THAT YOU GOT THE NEGOTIATING POWER, YOU KNOW, IN YOUR STAFF, I JUST THINK IF WE TAKE IT OFF, TAKE THE THING OFF THE WEBSITE AND LET THEM SAY IT'S $3,000, MOST PEOPLE ARE GOING TO PAY WHAT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GOING TO PAY FOR IT. AND SOMETIMES THEY MAY SAY, WELL, I'M BUILDING THIS. CAN YOU ALL NEGOTIATE? YOU ALREADY KNOW. DON'T COME TO US WITH NO 50% UNLESS IT'S IN YOUR WRITING RIGHT HERE. YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS I WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS, WHEN WE SAY COST TO THE CITY TO MAINTAIN AND CUT YARDS, WE SAY THAT. BUT I DON'T.

I NEVER SEE A COST TO THE CITY. I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT COST THE CITY TO CUT YARDS AND MAINTAIN.

SO THAT'S ONE OF MY QUESTIONS. CAN YOU PROVIDE A DETAILED ANALYSIS OF THE PROJECTED ANNUAL ANNUAL FINANCIAL BURDEN ON THE CITY TO MAINTAIN AND CUT THESE YARDS, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION. SO WE CAN'T AND WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, WE CAN'T COME UP AND SAY, IT COST THE CITY THIS MUCH TO CUT THE GRASS. I HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING THAT SAYS THAT. YOU KNOW HOW MUCH IT COSTS YOU KNOW, YOU KIND OF HAVE A COST BENEFIT KIND OF DISCUSSION OF IT'S COSTING US, LET'S JUST SAY $2,000 A YEAR TO CUT THE GRASS. AND THAT'S AN ADDITIONAL BURDEN. BUT THEY'RE OFFERING US X, WHATEVER THAT NUMBER IS. YOU MAY SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT? HEY, LET'S JUST GET IT OFF. LET'S GET THIS COST OFF OF US. GET RID OF THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY. AND THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO SEE. BUT IN THAT, MISTER CITY MANAGER, MR. CITY MAYOR, YOU GOING TO MAKE THE MOTION? VICE MAYOR, 100% OFF AND MAKE IT NEGOTIABLE? I MEAN, IT'S NOT UP THERE YET. I THINK THAT WAS A SUGGESTION. SO. SO, SO WHATEVER YOU DECIDE, THAT'S THE BEST WAY TO DO IT, RIGHT? RIGHT I'M. I'M GOING TO GO WITH WHAT YOU SAID. ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT. I'M GOING TO PUT IT IN CONTEXT FOR YOU FOR, FOR A MOTION. SO AT THIS TIME, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO, KEEP THE DISPOSITION OF CITY OWNED PROPERTIES NEGOTIABLE. BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO ADVERTISE. 50% IS WHAT I'M HEARING. OKAY. AND THAT, AND BASED ON THAT NEGOTIATION THROUGH OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR, THEN HE'LL VET IT TO BRING IT TO COUNCIL WILL BE THE MOTION SO MOVED. ALL RIGHT.

SECOND MOTION A SECOND. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION. ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE, MISS HILL, COULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? YES, SIR. COUNCIL MEMBER CUTHBERT. AYE.

COUNCIL MEMBER JONES. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER. MYERS. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER. WESTBROOK AYE.

COUNCIL MEMBER. SMITH. AYE. VICE MAYOR. HILL AYE. MAYOR. AYE. THE MOTION CARRIES ALL RIGHT. THANK

[14. New Business]

AND THIS REPORT REALLY SHARES WITH YOU ALL SOME OF THE ACTIONS THAT WERE TAKEN, WHETHER IT'S RELATED TO ZONING ITEMS OR LAND USE PLANNING. AND IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY, OF COURSE, TO RECOGNIZE OUR PLANNING COMMISSIONERS AS WELL FOR THE WORK THAT THEY DO FOR US. I DID WANT TO START WITH SOME GENERAL BACKGROUND INFORMATION FIRST. SO THE PURPOSE OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION, WHAT THEY'RE REALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR, IS ANTICIPATING, INITIATING AND GUIDING FUTURE LAND USE DEVELOPMENT AND ANY CHANGES TO PLANS THAT WE HAVE OR ORDINANCES CONSIDERING THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS, PROGRAM STUDIES AND REPORTS BEFORE THEY COME BEFORE YOU ALL. HERE ARE SOME OF THEIR DUTIES AS OUTLINED FOR THEM. SO WHAT THEY DO IS THEY TAKE A LOOK AT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN EVERY FIVE YEARS. SO WE JUST HAD THAT RECENTLY ADOPTED.

THEY LOOK AT REZONING ITEMS AS WELL, WHETHER TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OR DENIAL TO YOU ALL MAKE OTHER CONSIDERATIONS WHEN IT COMES TO TEXT AMENDMENTS FOR ZONING ORDINANCE, WHETHER THOSE ARE REFERRED TO BY YOU ALL OR WHETHER THEY TAKE IT UP THEMSELVES. TAKE A LOOK AT THE

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THEY HAD TWO WORK SESSIONS, JUST AS THE PLANNING COMMISSION, TWO JOINT SESSIONS WITH YOU ALL, AND THEN MADE A RECOMMENDATION AS WELL. ON APRIL 4TH, MOVING FORWARD, THEY'RE GOING TO WORK CLOSELY WITH US ON THE ZONING AND SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE REWRITE. THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE WORK SESSIONS THAT ARE DIRECTLY WITH THEM AS WELL AS JOINT SESSIONS THAT WILL COME WITH YOU ALL. WE JUST STARTED A CONVERSATION ON SHORT TERM RENTALS AS WELL, SINCE WE KNOW THAT'S A TOPIC THAT THERE'S INTEREST IN ADDRESSING, ESPECIALLY BEFORE ANY BIG POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS COME THROUGH. AND THEN I'VE SPOKEN WITH, FINANCE AS WELL THAT SHOULD CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PLAN SUCH AS FIVE YEAR PLAN MOVE FORWARD. IT IS WITHIN THE PURVIEW OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PLAN AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS AS WELL. BEFORE IT COMES TO YOU. SO LET US KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. JUST EXCITED TO SHARE WHAT HAPPENED IN THE PAST YEAR, AND SEE IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING THAT YOU'D LIKE ADDRESSED IN THE UPCOMING YEAR, OR HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT WAS PRESENTED. THANKS! THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION, MISS MARK, ALSO, WE'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE A JOINT MEETING, AND I THINK I THINK IT WAS PULLED. TAMMY WASN'T WASN'T SUPPOSED TO MEN IN SEPTEMBER. IS IT STILL ON? YES. OKAY. OKAY. GOOD. GOOD. BECAUSE I DIDN'T I SAW IT ON MY CALENDAR AND I SAW IT LEAVES. DO WE HAVE THE DATE OF THAT? SO WE CAN LET LET THE PUBLIC KNOW AS WELL. THE 25TH IS THE 25TH OF SEPTEMBER. BUT IT IS SEPTEMBER 25TH. SEPTEMBER 25TH AT 6 P.M, THE JOINT MEETING RIGHT HERE. RIGHT HERE AT THE LIBRARY. PERFECT ALL RIGHT, COUNCILMAN JONES. YES, SIR. COUNCILMAN JONES, SO THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WORK YOU GUYS PUTTING INTO EVERYTHING. I JUST GOT A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. MAYBE YOU COULD CLARIFY PARKING REDUCTION FOR HOTELS. WHAT? TELL ME ABOUT THAT. SURE. SO IT'S A LITTLE OUT OF THE ORDINARY IN TERMS OF WHO HAS THE POWER. SO GENERALLY FOR A TEXT AMENDMENT, IT WOULD COME FROM YOU ALL OR PLANNING COMMISSION WOULD BRING IT UP. WE DID HAVE A REQUEST FROM OUR BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS. SO THE BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS HEARD A CASE FOR A HOTEL SEEKING A REDUCTION IN PARKING. AND A CONVERSATION AROSE TALKING ABOUT, WELL, WHAT IF THEY PROVIDED BIKE PARKING OR SHARED PARKING OR OTHER ALTERNATIVES IN ORDER TO GET A REDUCTION? SO WE DID COME TO PLANNING COMMISSION AND SHARE THAT IDEA. WE THOUGHT IT WAS DEFINITELY SOMETHING TO CONSIDER BASED ON THE CONVERSATION, BUT SOMETHING BEST THAT COULD BE HANDLED IN OUR ZONING AND SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE. REWRITE FOR CONSIDERATION. SO LOOKING AT HOW PARKING IS MANAGED OVERALL AND NOT JUST SPECIFICALLY FOR HOTEL.

SO ARE WE TALKING ABOUT EXISTING HOTELS OR HOTELS TO BE BUILT TO BE BUILT. AND THEY WILL ASK FOR A REDUCTION POTENTIALLY. THEY COULD POTENTIALLY DO SHARED PARKING WITH A NEIGHBORING LOT.

MAYBE IT'S AN OFFICE BUILDING THAT DOESN'T HAVE PARKING IN THE EVENINGS. SO HOTEL USERS COULD USE THAT, OR THEY COULD PROVIDE ALTERNATIVE PARKING OR ALTERNATIVE WAYS TO GET THERE.

MAYBE THEY'RE LOCATED RIGHT NEAR OUR TRANSIT CENTER SO THEY COULD GET A REDUCTION BY BEING CLOSE TO TRANSIT. SO THINGS LIKE THAT TO CONSIDER FLOW PARKING AND STUFF LIKE THAT. SPEAKING OF PARKING, ONE OF THE THINGS I WOULD LIKE TO ADD, AND THIS IS THE TRACTOR TRAILERS IS PARKING

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SO THEN WHEN THEY SEE THINGS FOR THE FOR THE FIRST TIME BEFORE WE GET TO US, THEY CAN SAY, YEAH, WE'VE HAD THIS DISCUSSION WITH COUNCIL AND WE KIND OF KNOW THIS IS THIS IS THE DIRECTION THAT WE'RE LEANING AS A CITY. SO IT WOULD REALLY BE BENEFICIAL FOR, FOR EVERYBODY. ALL RIGHT, MR. ALTMAN, I THINK YOU KNEW THAT I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY THAT THIS PIECE, IT WORKS HAND IN GLOVE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND OUR ORDINANCE HASN'T HAD A COMPREHENSIVE REWRITE, PROBABLY SINCE IT WAS ADOPTED. SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT DEFINITIONS AND WE MAY FIND DEFINITIONS IN THE STATE CODE RATHER READILY, BUT WE DON'T FIND THEM IN OUR LOCAL ZONING ORDINANCE. AND WE'RE HAVING TO CHANGE THAT. AND WE WANT TO. ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT WAS MAKING SURE IF WE HAVE A USE LISTED, WE HAVE A DEFINITION FOR THAT. SO WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. AND SO IT'S VERY CLEAR TO THE TO THE PUBLIC AND TO THE DEVELOPING COMMUNITY THAT THIS IS WHAT OUR EXPECTATIONS ARE. SO THIS IS GOING TO BE REALLY AN IMPORTANT PIECE OF IMPLEMENTING OUR COMP PLAN. AND MOVING THE CITY FORWARD, BECAUSE THESE WILL BE THE REGULATIONS THAT THEN DETERMINE, IN EFFECT, HOW DEVELOPMENT OCCURS. SO AND WHERE PERFECT ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU MISS I LOOK FORWARD TAMMY THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP AND ALL

[15. City Manager's Report and Special Reports]

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[16. Business or reports from the Clerk]