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          CLOSED SESSION. THAT MEANS. ADJOURNED. NEXT, WE ROLL RIGHT ON INTO OUR CITY COUNCIL WORK 
          [1. Roll Call]
SESSION. GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE. IT'S JANUARY 7TH. IT IS APPROXIMATELY 505 AND WE'RE READY TO GET STARTED AT THIS TIME. IS HILL, COULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL COUNCIL MEMBER CUTHBERT HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER JONES HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER. MYERS HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER. 
          WESTBROOK. PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER. SMITH. LEE PRESENT. VICE MAYOR. HILL HERE. MAYOR. PERRY HERE. NEXT, VICE MAYOR HILL WILL LEAD US IN OUR OPENING PRAYER. LET US PRAY. HEAVENLY FATHER, ONCE AGAIN WE COME BEFORE YOU, THANKING YOU FOR YOUR GRACE AND YOUR MERCY. LORD, WE THANK YOU FOR THIS DAY. WE THANK YOU FOR THIS FIRST MEETING OF THE YEAR. WE THANK YOU FOR HOW YOU'VE KEPT US DURING 2024, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO THE BRIGHTER FUTURE OF 2025. IN OUR CITY. LORD, WE ASK THY BLESSING UPON OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, OUR POLICE OFFICERS, OUR FIREFIGHTERS, OUR EMS, ALL THOSE WHO ARE WORKING. 911 DISPATCH. LORD, WE ASK THAT YOU CONTINUE TO BE WITH THEM AND STRENGTHEN THEM AND PROTECT THEM. LORD, WE ASK THE SPECIAL BLESSING UPON OUR CITIZENS. 
          HEAVENLY FATHER, THAT YOU WILL KEEP A HEDGE OF PROTECTION AROUND ALL OF US. BE WITH OUR ADMINISTRATOR. BE WITH OUR STAFF, OUR EMPLOYEES. BE WITH THIS COUNCIL AS WE LEAD THE PEOPLE TO HIGHER HEIGHTS WITH YOU. LORD, WE THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU DO IN OUR LIVES. LORD, WE EVEN THANK YOU FOR OUR FORMER PRESIDENT WHO PASSED AWAY. HEAVENLY FATHER, THAT YOU WILL BE WITH HIM AND HIS FAMILY. HEAVENLY FATHER, LORD, WE THANK YOU FOR THIS DAY THAT YOU HAVE MADE. IT'S IN JESUS NAME WE PRAY. AMEN. AMEN. NOW ASKING EVERYONE, PLEASE JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. I PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND 
          [4. Determination of the Presence of a Quorum]
JUSTICE FOR ALL. IT'S ITEM FOUR DETERMINATION OF THE PRESENCE OF A QUORUM. WE DO HAVE A QUORUM. 
          [5. Special Reports (Part 1 of 2) ]
TONIGHT. WE'LL START OFF WITH ITEM FIVE, SPECIAL REPORTS, ITEM A, A DATA CENTER PRESENTATION BY BUDDY REISER, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WITH LOUDON, VIRGINIA ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, AND MICHAEL ZUROFF OF ACP, DIRECTOR OF PLANNING AND ZONING, AND STAFFORD COUNTY. 
          GOOD EVENING. CAN YOU HEAR US? CAN YOU HEAR US? YES. OKAY. PERFECT. HELLO. ALL RIGHT. HOW ARE YOU DOING, DAVID, BUDDY, THANK YOU ALL FOR JOINING US TODAY. YES. SHOULD I GO FIRST OR YOU WANT TO HEAR FROM BUDDY FIRST IS YOUR CHOICE. Y'ALL CAN TOSS THE COIN ON THE COIN FLIP. 
          WHO GOES FIRST? YEAH, IT PROBABLY MAKES SENSE, DAVID, FOR ME TO GO FIRST. AND THEN YOU CAN PROBABLY PICK UP OFF SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I WILL STATE AS CHALLENGES TOWARD THE END, IF THAT'S OKAY. SOUNDS GOOD. ALL RIGHT. FIRST OF ALL, IT IS IT'S GREAT TO BE WITH YOU ALL TODAY. 
          AND I APOLOGIZE THAT I COULDN'T BE THERE IN PERSON. WAS REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO IT. BUT BETWEEN THE WEATHER AND THE LENGTH OF THE DRIVE AND EVERYTHING, IT JUST DIDN'T WORK OUT FOR ME THIS THIS TIME. BUT WE'D LOVE TO GET DOWN AT A AT AN EARLY DATE. SO I AM BUDDY REISER, AND I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FOR LOUDON COUNTY, VIRGINIA. AND I'VE BEEN HERE WITH THE COUNTY FOR ALMOST 18 YEARS NOW. AND. HAVE HAVE ENJOYED MY TIME HERE AND HAVE WORKED VERY HARD TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT EXACTLY HOW TO CONTINUE TO BUILD OUR ECONOMY IN A IN A SMART WAY. AND ONE OF THE WAYS THAT WE HAVE DONE THAT IS THROUGH DATA CENTERS. AND JUST TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT OF THE STORY TODAY. THE FIRST THING THAT I WANTED TO KIND OF SHARE WITH YOU IS THE TIME LAPSE, THAT I'M NOT SURE HOW THIS WILL WORK OVER THE INTERNET, BUT WANTED TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF THE GROWTH OVER THE LAST 2025 YEARS AND SEE IF YOU CAN SEE THIS. OKAY. 
          OBVIOUSLY THE BIG BOXES THAT YOU SEE HERE, THE BIG WHITE BOXES, THEY ARE ALMOST ALL DATA CENTERS CURRENTLY IN LOUDOUN COUNTY. WE HAVE ABOUT 43,000,000FT■S OF DAA CENTERS, WITH ANOTHER 4 MILLION OR SO THAT ARE UNDER DEVELOPMENT. WHEN WE FIRST WENT DOWN THIS PATH. AND THE REASON WE WENT DOWN THIS PATH WAS WHEN I FIRST ARRIVED HERE, WE WERE 81% DEPENDENT ON RESIDENTIAL 
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REAL ESTATE. WHEN THE HOUSING BUBBLE BURST, WE LOST A GREAT DEAL OF OUR TAX BASE AND WE'RE FRANKLY IN FINANCIAL TROUBLE. THEY BROUGHT ME IN TO TRY TO DETERMINE HOW WE COULD GROW OUR COMMERCIAL TAX BASE. OUR GOALS WERE VERY MODEST AT THAT TIME. WE WERE HOPING TO GET FROM 19 TO 23, AND WE WEREN'T REALLY SURE HOW TO DO THAT. THEN WE WERE ABLE TO LEVERAGE DATA CENTERS THAT WERE ALREADY HERE, SOME EMPTY BUILDINGS LEFT OVER FROM THE TECH BUBBLE AND JUST THREW OURSELVES INTO THE MARKETING AND THE ATTRACTION OF DATA CENTERS. THIS SLIDE ACTUALLY GOES ALL THE WAY BACK TO WHEN WE FIRST STARTED THIS 18 YEARS AGO, AND I IDENTIFIED WHAT THE ESSENTIAL COMPONENTS THAT WE THOUGHT WE WOULD NEED TO IN ORDER TO ATTRACT DATA CENTERS, LAND, FIBER, UTILITIES, TAXES, BUSINESS, ENVIRONMENT AND WORKFORCE. SO WE WORK VERY HARD ON ALL OF THESE, AND I'LL WALK YOU THROUGH THEM VERY QUICKLY. WHY LOUDOUN COUNTY? WHY NORTHERN VIRGINIA? GENERALLY, IT GOES BACK TO 1997, WHEN AOL FIRST CAME TO LOUDOUN COUNTY. THAT WAS FOLLOWED BY THE INTERNET EXCHANGE POINT MOVING FROM TYSONS TO LOUDOUN. THEN ALL THIS FIBER STARTED GOING INTO THE GROUND AS THE TECH BUBBLE, YOU KNOW, BEFORE IT BURST, WAS BRINGING COMPANIES LIKE UUNET AND PSINET AND ALL THESE OTHER COMPANIES HERE AND TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THAT FIBER. SO WE HAD THAT BUILT IN ADVANTAGE 18 YEARS AGO WHEN WE STARTED TO IDENTIFY EXACTLY WHERE WE WERE LOOKING. THE MAP ON THE RIGHT THERE, YOU'LL SEE ALL THE DATA CENTERS IN GREEN AND THE FIBER MAJOR FIBER NETWORKS IN PURPLE AND GREEN AND, AND PINK. I GUESS IT IS. BUT THIS IS JUST THE BEGINNING. WE HAVE MUCH MORE FIBER THAT IS IN THE GROUND. 
          THAT IS NOT THE MAJOR NETWORKS. IT'S MILES AND MILES AND MILES OF FIBER IN THE GROUND. THE BIG QUESTION THEN IS LIKE, NOW POWER. WE ARE NOW IN LOUDOUN COUNTY, ABOUT 3.8GW OF LOAD. YOU KNOW, THAT'S MULTIPLE PITTSBURGHS OR TWO TIMES SAN FRANCISCO. AND WE CONTINUE TO GROW, THOUGH THE GROWTH HAS SLOWED, SLOWED. WE ARE CURRENTLY IN THE PROCESS OF BUILDING THE FIRST OF ITS KIND, 500 KILOVOLT RING AROUND DATA CENTER ALLEY THAT WILL FEED MULTIPLE 230 KV TRANSMISSION STATIONS. THE NEW SOUTHERN LINE WILL GET US PRETTY MUCH WHOLE IN LATE 2025. SINCE 2022, WE'VE HAD KIND OF A CONSTRAINT ON SOME OF OUR POWER GENERATION FOR DATA CENTERS. THE NEW NORTHERN LINE WILL BE IN 27, AND THEN THE CENTRAL LINE WILL BE COMPLETED IN 28. RIGHT NOW WE HAVE MORE THAN 15 SUBSTATIONS IN SERVICE OR UNDER DEVELOPMENT, UP FROM ABOUT A MILE AND A HALF FROM WHERE I SIT RIGHT NOW. THE COMMITMENT TO SUSTAINABILITY HAS BEEN VERY IMPORTANT TO THE INDUSTRY, AND IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO US IN LOUDOUN COUNTY. CURRENTLY, DOMINION IS GENERATING 20 600MW OF CLEAN ENERGY IN TEN STATES. THE OFFSHORE WIND PROJECT IS COMING ALONG 3000MW OF SOLAR AND WIND UNDER DEVELOPMENT AND IN DEVELOPMENT AND UNDER OPERATION LATER THIS YEAR, WITH ANOTHER 16,000MW PLANNED. THERE'S STILL CHALLENGES WITH THE RENEWABLES. 
          THE INDUSTRY BUYS, ALL THE RENEWABLES THEY CAN. THEY'RE THE LARGEST PURCHASER OF RENEWABLES ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD, BUT THERE'S JUST NOT ENOUGH OUT THERE. AND THAT HAS KIND OF LEFT US HANGING WITH GAS AND IN SOME INSTANCES, NOT RETIRING THE COAL AS QUICKLY AS WAS ORIGINALLY PLANNED. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WERE VERY EXCITED ABOUT IS THAT WE HAVE A RECLAIMED WATER LINE THAT GOES THROUGH DATA CENTER ALLEY, 20 MILES OF RECLAIMED WATER, AND 40 OF OUR DATA CENTERS ARE CURRENTLY CONNECTED. 675 MILLION GALLONS OF RECLAIMED WATER IS BEING USED. AND THERE YOU SEE THE PURPLE LINE IS WHERE WE HAVE THE RECLAIMED WATER IN OUR COMMUNITY. THE TAX ENVIRONMENT IN LOUDOUN COUNTY IS ACTUALLY PRETTY HIGH. IT'S I GUESS, IN DAVID PROBABLY KNOWS BETTER THAN I, BUT OUR PERSONAL PROPERTY TAXES, I BELIEVE TWICE WHAT IT IS IN PRINCE WILLIAM COUNTY. BUT IT HAS BEEN PREDICTABLE. WE HAVE KEPT EVERYTHING PRETTY STEADY AND THE SALES AND USE TAX INCENTIVE, AS WAS PRESENTED IN THE JLARC STUDY, WILL TELL YOU THAT IT'S A, YOU KNOW, A VERY IMPORTANT COMPONENT OF NOT ONLY ATTRACTING DATA CENTERS, BUT ALSO RETAINING DATA CENTERS. MORE THAN 70 DATA CENTERS ARE ELIGIBLE IN VIRGINIA FOR THE SALES TAX BREAK, 124.5 MILLION HAS BEEN SAVED IN OUR RECENT NUMBERS FROM 2021. BUT DURING 
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THAT SAME YEAR, IT THE DATA CENTER INDUSTRY CONTRIBUTED ABOUT 1.2 BILLION IN TAXES. WHEN WE FIRST CAME UP WITH THE SALES TAX INCENTIVE IN 2007, 2008, WE WERE ONE OF ONLY A HANDFUL. 
          TODAY, 33 STATES IN THE UNITED STATES HAVE A SIMILAR TAX INCENTIVE FOR DATA CENTERS THAT IS AVAILABLE HERE IN VIRGINIA. PROBABLY THE BIGGEST THING THAT WE DID WAS TRY TO HAVE A PREDICTABLE PROCESS, IMPROVE TIME TO MARKET. WE CREATED A FAST TRACK PROGRAM THAT ACTUALLY SITS IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TO GET PROJECTS TO MARKET AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN, WHEREAS THEY WERE USED TO IN CALIFORNIA SPENDING THREE AND FOUR YEARS TO GET THROUGH THE PERMITTING PROCESS, WE WERE GETTING THROUGH THE PERMITTING PROCESS IN IN 6 TO 8 MONTHS, AND WE CONTINUE TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT TO THE EXTENT THAT WE ARE SELECTING THOSE PROJECTS FOR THE FAST TRACK PROGRAM AND WORKFORCE, IS REALLY IMPORTANT. YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS YOU'LL HEAR CONSTANTLY IS THAT THERE'S NOT A LOT OF JOBS. AND IF YOU'RE GOING TO COMPARE IT TO A MANUFACTURING PLANT OR AN OFFICE BUILDING, THAT'S PROBABLY TRUE. BUT THERE'S ABOUT 15,000 JOBS IN AND AROUND THE DATA CENTERS IN LOUDOUN COUNTY. AND WE HAVE STRUGGLED TO GET ENOUGH OF THE DATA CENTER OPERATIONS. A FEW YEARS AGO, WORKING WITH NORTHERN VIRGINIA COMMUNITY COLLEGE AND THE INDUSTRY, WE CREATED A DATA CENTER OPERATIONS PROGRAM THAT HAS A 98% PLACEMENT RATE INTO SIX FIGURE JOBS, WHICH IS JUST TREMENDOUS. I'M ON THE BOARD FOR NORTHERN VIRGINIA COMMUNITY COLLEGE, AND WE HAVE RECENTLY EXPANDED IT FROM JUST A LOUDOUN PROGRAM TO NOW THERE IS A PARTNER PROGRAM FOR DATA CENTER OPERATIONS IN PRINCE WILLIAM COUNTY, TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GETTING AS MANY KIDS THROUGH THAT PROGRAM AS WE CAN. SO THE LATEST NUMBERS, LIKE I SAID, ABOUT 3.8GW OF POWER FOR OUR DATA CENTERS HERE. WE'LL GET CLOSE TO $1 BILLION IN TAX REVENUE THIS YEAR FROM DATA CENTERS. THAT'S ABOUT A THIRD OF OUR ENTIRE TAX BASE IS COMING FROM DATA CENTERS. DATA CENTERS CAN TAKE ABOUT 3% OF OUR LAND AND ARE CONTRIBUTING ABOUT 33%. 
          REALLY, A LITTLE OVER 34% OF OUR TOTAL TAX. THERE'S ABOUT 43,000,000FT■S, ABOUT 4 MILLION IN THE DEVELOPMENT PIPELINE. SOME PHASE OF DEVELOPMENT, AND PROBABLY 5 TO 6,000,000FT■S BY RIGHT AFTER THAT, 15,000 JOBS. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAS BEEN VERY SIGNIFICANT HERE, AND I KNOW IT'S TRUE IN PRINCE WILLIAM AS WELL, MAYBE NOT TO THE SAME EXTENT, BUT FOR EVERY DOLLAR IN LOUDOUN COUNTY THAT A DATA CENTER TAKES IN SERVICES, WE GET $26 BACK. SO FOR US, IT'S BEEN A VERY GOOD RETURN ON OUR INVESTMENT. AND OUR VACANCY RATE IS UNDER 1% HERE IN LOUDOUN COUNTY FOR DATA CENTERS. HERE YOU SEE HOW THE TAX REVENUE HAS GROWN. FOR CONTEXT, WE BECAME THE LARGEST DATA CENTER MARKET IN THE WORLD IN 2016. AND THAT'S WHEN THE GROWTH REALLY STARTED, FIRST BECAUSE OF CLOUD ADOPTION, THEN BY COVID AND NOW BY AI. WE'RE SEEING THAT THAT JUST CONTINUE TO GROW. NOW THE REAL PROPERTY IS ABOUT 15% OF THE OVERALL REVENUE THAT WE GET. AND THEN THE REST IS COMPUTER EQUIPMENT, PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX. OUR PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX RATE IS FOR 20 FOR DATA CENTER EQUIPMENT. AND WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO KEEP THAT FAIRLY STEADY. WE DID BRING IT DOWN TO 415 AT ONE POINT, BUT TOOK IT BACK UP TO 420. BUT AS I SAID, WE'RE GOING TO GET CLOSE TO $1 BILLION THIS YEAR IN DATA CENTER REVENUE FOR LOUDOUN COUNTY. SO WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? IS LATEST 2012, OUR TAX RATE IN LOUDOUN WAS $1.28 FIVE PER 100. THIS YEAR WE REDUCED THE TAX RATE TO 86.5 PER 100. AND WE'LL PROBABLY GO DOWN AGAIN IN THE NEXT BUDGET CYCLE. 
          $0.42 REDUCTION IN THE TAX OVER THE LAST 12 YEARS. JUST REALLY AMAZING HOW THAT HAS WORKED. FOR AN AVERAGE ASSESSED VALUE OF ABOUT $735,000 FOR THE AVERAGE HOME HERE, THE AVERAGE HOMEOWNER IS GOING TO SAVE OVER $3,000 A YEAR IN TAXES, THANKS TO THE REVENUE THAT WE GET FROM THE DATA CENTER INDUSTRY. I'M SURE YOU'VE SEEN WE GET A LOT OF FEEDBACK. CONSTRUCTIVE FEEDBACK AND OTHERWISE FROM FROM OUR CITIZENS. IT HAS IT HAS BEEN REALLY TOUGH OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS AS WE'VE CONTINUED TO GROW INTO A VERY BIG MARKET FOR DATA CENTERS. 
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AGAIN, IT'S ONLY 3% OF OUR OVERALL LAND, BUT IT'S PRETTY DENSE, AS YOU SAW ON SOME OF THOSE EARLIER MAPS. IT COMES DOWN TO WHAT ARE THESE THINGS? TO ME, DATA CENTERS ARE CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE. THEY ARE THE CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE THAT REALLY ENABLES ALL OF THE OTHER BUSINESSES THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ATTRACT. BE PART OF THIS, THIS ECOSYSTEM BY EXAMPLE. YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING THAT WE WORK ON FROM HEALTH TO EDUCATION, ENTERTAINMENT, E-COMMERCE, BANKING, ETC. IT ALL CENTERS AROUND DATA CENTERS. BY 2027, THE OVERALL US ECONOMY IS GOING TO BE OVER 8 TRILLION, REALLY $8.75 TRILLION JUST BASED ON DATA CENTERS. SO THE QUESTION IS NOT REALLY IF DATA CENTERS, BUT IT'S WHERE WHAT COMMUNITIES WANT THEM, WHAT COMMUNITIES DON'T AND HOW IT'S DONE. AND THAT'S REALLY THE PART OF THIS THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING VERY HARD ON. WHERE DO WE WANT THEM? YOU KNOW, TURNS OUT WE PROBABLY DON'T WANT VERY MANY MORE. WE'RE PRETTY MUCH AT THE END OF THE LAND THAT WE HAVE DEDICATED FOR THIS, BUT WE ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING BETTER IN HOW THEY LOOK, HOW THEY OPERATE, HOW THEY INTEGRATE INTO THE REST OF THE COMMUNITY. SO I'LL JUST WRAP WITH A QUICK SLIDE ABOUT SOME OF THE LESSONS THAT WE'VE LEARNED HERE. YOU KNOW, WHEN WE WENT DOWN THIS PATH 18 YEARS AGO, DATA CENTERS WEREN'T REALLY AN INDUSTRY. THEY WERE INDIVIDUAL BUSINESSES THAT WE WERE TRYING TO ATTRACT. NOW IT'S BECOME THE FASTEST GROWING INDUSTRY, THE MOST BANKABLE INDUSTRY, AND HAS BEEN SOMETHING THAT IS REALLY HAS BEEN DEPENDENT ON ALL OF THE FACTORS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT. THE FIRST THING I ALWAYS RECOMMEND FOR COMMUNITIES, REALLY ACROSS THE WORLD WHERE I DO THESE KIND OF TALKS IS TO DEFINE YOUR OPPORTUNITY UP FRONT. WHERE DO YOU WANT THEM? IF YOU WANT THEM AT ALL, WHERE DO YOU WANT THEM AND WHERE DON'T YOU WANT THEM? AND DRAW A REALLY FINE LINE AROUND THAT. MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE STICKING TO THAT BECAUSE THEY SHOULDN'T BE EVERYWHERE. THEY SHOULDN'T BE CLOSE TO RESIDENCES AND THEY SHOULDN'T BE IN MAYBE SOME HISTORICAL AREAS OR WHERE THEY'RE ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE. SO MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTAND HOW MUCH YOU WANT AND WHERE YOU WANT THEM. UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE GETTING. THE VALUE PROPOSITION WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT YOUR TAX RECORDS. UNDERSTAND THAT A LARGE PORTION OF THIS IS GOING TO BE IN THE PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX. AND IF YOU HAVE REDUCED THE PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX FOR DATA CENTERS, WHICH IS PERMITTED BY STATUTE IN VIRGINIA, YOU KNOW, UNDERSTAND THAT YOU WILL GET BACK WHAT YOU ARE SETTING OUT THERE. SO WHATEVER THAT TAX RATE IS, UNDERSTAND HOW YOU WILL GET THAT BACK AND DEFINE WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING FOR. YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE TALKING WITH THE INDUSTRY AND UNDERSTANDING WHAT THAT WHAT THAT OPPORTUNITY IS. 
          PARTNERSHIPS ARE SO IMPORTANT. YOU KNOW EARLY ON WE DEVELOPED REALLY CLOSE PARTNERSHIPS WITH DOMINION ENERGY. WE PLANNED TOGETHER, WE MARKETED TOGETHER, WE TROUBLESHOOTED THE CHALLENGES WE'VE HAD. WE'VE WORKED TOGETHER VERY CLOSELY. AND THE INDUSTRY ALSO, IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE A GREAT PARTNERSHIP WITH THE INDUSTRY BECAUSE THEY ARE GOING TO BRING A LOT, BUT THEY'RE GOING TO DEMAND A LOT IN SERVICES AS FAR AS POWER, WATER, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. IT'S IMPORTANT THAT YOU BUILD THOSE PARTNERSHIPS EARLY. AS I SAID, WITH THE INDUSTRY, WITH THE UTILITY PROVIDERS. THE OTHER THING IS MAKING SURE YOU'RE COMMUNICATING THE STORY. WE DID A VERY GOOD JOB OF THIS FOR A VERY LONG TIME. WE DIDN'T REALLY GET A LOT OF NEGATIVE PUSHBACK ON THE DATA CENTER INDUSTRY FOR REALLY FOR THE FIRST 15 YEARS, WE WERE DOING IT BECAUSE WE HAD GONE THROUGH SUCH TOUGH TIMES FINANCIALLY. PEOPLE UNDERSTOOD THAT THIS WAS REALLY HELPING US TURN OUR ECONOMY AROUND. BUT NOW, AS WE SIT HERE WITH A $200 MILLION SURPLUS THIS YEAR, IT'S HARD TO MAKE THE FINANCIAL ARGUMENT ANYMORE. IT'S GOT TO BE ABOUT EVERYTHING ELSE AROUND THAT. AND WHAT DOES IT BRING AS FAR AS JOBS, AND WHAT DOES IT BRING AS FAR AS OPPORTUNITY AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS? NOT THAT THE MONEY'S NOT IMPORTANT, BUT IT'S A DIFFERENT VALUE PROPOSITION WHEN YOU ARE LAYING PEOPLE OFF THAN WHEN YOU'RE VIRTUALLY DOUBLING THE SIZE OF GOVERNMENT. HERE IN LOUDOUN OVER THE LAST DECADE. THESE CAN GROW COMMUNITIES. WE HAVE GROWN A LOT OF BUSINESSES IN AND AROUND THE DATA CENTER INDUSTRY, FROM CYBERSECURITY TO HEALTH. IT TO REALLY MECHANICAL AND THE TRADES. IT'S ALL BEEN, YOU KNOW, ALL BENEFITED FROM FROM THIS. 
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IT'S BOTH TAX GROWTH AND JOB CREATION AND MAKING SURE THAT YOU'RE USING THIS AS A JUMPING OFF POINT FOR ALL OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH. THE OTHER THING IS WE ARE SOMETIMES IT CAN BE VERY PAINFUL. WE ARE TRYING TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS WHEN WE GET THEM. I GET A LOT OF FEEDBACK ON A FAIRLY REGULAR BASIS. I DON'T IGNORE IT. I TRY TO MAKE SURE I'M ADDRESSING ALL THAT FEEDBACK, AND A LOT OF TIMES IT'S A MISUNDERSTANDING. 
          SOMETIMES YOU ARE JUST NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THEM HAPPY, BUT IT IS IMPORTANT THAT THEY AT LEAST FEEL LIKE YOU'RE RESPONSIVE. AND WE TRY VERY HARD TO DO THAT. AND THE FINAL THING IS GO BEYOND THE BUILDING. I THINK THAT THE INDUSTRY IS GETTING BETTER AT THIS. I THINK WE'RE GETTING BETTER AT THIS. BUT WHEN YOU SEE THESE BIG BUILDINGS AND YOU KNOW, WE HAVE ONE THAT'S BEING DEVELOPED NOW, THAT'S 1,000,000FT■S BY ITSELF. IT'S EASY TO THINK OF THE DATA CENTER INDUSTRY AS JUST THE BUILDINGS, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE INSIDE THOSE, A LOT OF CUSTOMERS. THERE'S ABOUT 3000 TECHNOLOGY COMPANIES THAT ARE HOUSED IN THESE BUSINESSES. SO IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE GO BEYOND THE BUILDING AND UNDERSTAND THAT, THAT THIS IS A SIGNIFICANT PART OF OUR COMMUNITY AND THAT WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO FIND THAT BALANCE. YOU KNOW, YOU COULD ARGUE THAT WE HAVEN'T FOUND THAT BALANCE HERE, THAT MAYBE WE'RE A LITTLE TOO FAR, AND I'D HAVE A HARD TIME ARGUING WITH THAT. BUT IT IS IMPORTANT THAT YOU TRY TO FIND THAT BALANCE AND INTEGRATE THE DATA CENTERS WHERE YOU DO THINK THEY'RE IMPORTANT. SO WITH THAT, I'LL WRAP UP MY PART AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO STICK AROUND FOR QUESTIONS. AFTER DAVID DOES HIS PRESENTATION. THANKS FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. WE APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU BUDDY. THAT WAS GOOD. A GOOD SORT OF POSITIVE. I'M GOING TO BE A LITTLE MORE MORE NEGATIVE. ON TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT HOW PRINCE WILLIAM IS DEALING WITH THE DATA CENTERS THROUGH OUR REGULATION AND SOME OF THE IMPACTS OF THE DATA CENTERS THAT THAT WE'RE HAVING. I'M DAVID MCGETTIGAN, I AM A THE DEPUTY PLANNING DIRECTOR FOR PRINCE WILLIAM COUNTY, AND I'VE BEEN WITH PRINCE WILLIAM COUNTY FOR ABOUT 20 YEARS. AND SO I'VE I'VE BEEN HERE THROUGH THE BEGINNINGS OF OUR DATA CENTER REGULATION STORY AND, AND, AND WORKING DILIGENTLY ON, ON THE, ON ON THAT RIGHT NOW. SO I'M GOING TO JUST SORT OF GIVE YOU A QUICK BACKGROUND OF, OF HOW WE GOT WHERE WE ARE. 
          YOU KNOW, PRINCE WILLIAM COUNTY IS JUST SOUTH OF LOUDOUN COUNTY, SOUTH OF FAIRFAX COUNTY, OUTSIDE OF DC. I'LL TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE REVISIONS WE DID THROUGH THE YEARS, AND THEN LOOK AHEAD AT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE WE'RE WORKING ON NOW. SO IN 2016, WE CAME UP WITH OUR FIRST REGULATION. WE DEVELOPED AN OVERLAY DISTRICT, A DATA CENTER OPPORTUNITY ZONE OVERLAY DISTRICT THAT ALLOWED THE DATA CENTERS BY RIGHT IN THAT OVERLAY DISTRICT. OUTSIDE OF THAT, THEY REQUIRED A SPECIAL USE PERMIT. AND 2019 WE SAID, WELL, WE NEED TO LOOK MORE AT THE WE UPDATED THE OVERLAY DISTRICT WITH SOME DESIGN STANDARDS. AND THEN IN 2021, WE STARTED LOOKING AT THE IMPACTS OF DATA CENTERS AND LOOKING AT OTHER OTHER THINGS THAT WE THOUGHT WERE IMPORTANT. AND IN 2023, IT WAS A RENEWED EFFORT WITH THE CONCERNS OVER NOISE. SO OUR FIRST FORAY INTO REGULATION WAS BECAUSE OF WHAT I CALL THE BATTLE OF HAYMARKET, WHERE WE HAD A DATA CENTER OVER ON THE WEST AND A TRANSMISSION LINE OVER ON THE EAST, AND IN BETWEEN WAS A BUNCH OF RESIDENTIAL AND A HISTORIC TOWN OF HAYMARKET. AND WE NEEDED TO GET A TRANSMISSION LINE THROUGH FROM EAST TO WEST. EXCUSE ME. DAVID. THE SLIDES AREN'T MOVING FOR US. DO WE NEED TO DO THAT ON OUR END OR. OH, WE'RE STUCK ON SLIDE ONE. IS IT? SEE? YEAH, I'M AT FULL SCREEN. 
          ABLE TO SEE THAT. OH. OKAY. HOLD ON A SECOND. LET ME START SHARING AGAIN. AGAIN. AND PICK 
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THE ENTIRE SCREEN. MAYBE THAT WILL HELP. 
          HOW'S THAT. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S IT. THAT'S BETTER. OKAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WE WERE HERE AT THE BATTLE OF HAYMARKET, WHERE WE HAD THE TRANSMISSION LINE ON THE EAST, THE DATA CENTERS ON THE WEST, AND THE NEIGHBORHOODS IN BETWEEN. SO TO SOLVE THIS. SO TRANSMISSION LINES WERE WERE THE MAIN REASON WE DECIDED TO DO THAT, TO TRY AND CONTAIN TRANSMISSION LINE EXTENSIONS INTO CERTAIN AREAS OF THE COUNTY WHERE WE WANT THE DATA CENTERS TO BE. SO WE HAD A LARGE INDUSTRIAL AREA THAT WE'D SET ASIDE AND DIFFERENT INDUSTRIAL AREAS THROUGHOUT THE MAGENTA LINES ON HERE ARE THE POWER TRANSMISSION LINES. AND SO WE PUT THE OVERLAY DISTRICT AROUND OUR INDUSTRIAL AREAS. AND WHERE THERE WERE TRANSMISSION LINES CAN COINCIDED WITH THOSE INDUSTRIAL AREAS, SO THAT IF THERE WAS AN EXTENSION OF A TRANSMISSION LINE TO A DATA CENTER, IT WOULDN'T GO THROUGH RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS. WE CREATED NEW DEFINITIONS FOR THE DATA CENTER, AND WE ALSO REQUIRED SPECIAL USE PERMITS FOR ELECTRIC SUBSTATIONS OUTSIDE THE OPPORTUNITY ZONE OVERLAY DISTRICT. SO OUR OUR FIRST DEFINITION WAS VERY BASIC. WE HAD A SORT OF A DATA SERVICES DATA AND COMPUTER SERVICES WOULD INCLUDED A BUCKET OF THINGS INCLUDING DATA CENTERS, INTERNET SERVICE PROVIDERS, NETWORK OPERATIONS CENTERS, WEB HOSTING FACILITIES, EVEN SOMETIMES COMPUTER REPAIR SHOPS GOT LUMPED INTO THAT. AND SO WE NEEDED TO BREAK OUT DATA CENTERS. AND WE CREATED TWO NEW USES COMPUTER AND NETWORK SERVICES. WHAT GOT THOSE OTHER THAT GOT THOSE OTHER THINGS. AND DATA CENTER. WE'RE LOOKING AT A NEW DEFINITION, WHICH IS VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU ARE PROVIDING IN YOUR ORDINANCE. SO THAT IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT NOW AND REDEFINING WHAT DATA CENTERS ARE. BUT BUT BASICALLY WHAT OUR FIRST, OUR CURRENT DEFINITION IS, IF IT'S MORE MACHINES THAN PEOPLE, THEN IT'S A DATA CENTER. IF THERE'S MORE PEOPLE THAN MACHINES, THEN IT'S NOT A DATA CENTER. SO THOSE ARE HOW WE DECIDED TO DEFINE THEM. THEN IN 2019, WE WERE SAYING, WELL, THESE DATA CENTERS DON'T LOOK TOO, TOO GOOD. THEY DON'T NEED WINDOWS AND THEY NEED TO BE SECURE. AND THERE'S A LOT OF MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT AND DIESEL GENERATORS THAT NEED TO BE SCREENED. SO WE CAME UP WITH SOME IN 2019, SOME REVISIONS TO THE OVERLAY DISTRICT TO ADDRESS THOSE SORTS OF THINGS. SO WE HAD FACADE REQUIREMENTS THAT THE DESIGN OF THE FACADE WHEN IT FACED A PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY, SHOULD HAVE A CHANGE IN BUILDING HEIGHT OR SETBACKS AND RECESSES, FENESTRATION CHANGES IN BUILDING MATERIAL, PATTERN, TEXTURE, COLOR AND THE USE OF ACCENT MATERIALS. AND THEY COULD PICK TWO OF THOSE. ALSO REQUIRED SCREENING OF MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT. NO CHAIN LINK FENCE OR BARBED WIRE FENCING, PREFERRING WHAT YOU SEE ON THE RIGHT THERE AND BUFFERS AND BERMS AROUND THE FACILITIES. WE ALSO REALIZED THAT THE FLOOR AREA RATIO IS NOT A GOOD MEASURE OF THE INTENSITY OF DATA CENTERS, BUT WE WANTED TO MAKE THE MORE EFFICIENT USE OF LAND AND ENCOURAGE HIGHER DATA CENTERS THAT WOULD HAVE MULTIPLE FLOORS, THAT'S MORE EFFICIENT USE OF LAND FOR THE DATA CENTERS. SO WE ALLOWED AN INCREASE IN THE FA IN THE OVERLAY DISTRICT, AND WE ALLOW HEIGHT INCREASES WITH A SPECIAL USE PERMIT. AND A LOT OF DATA CENTERS NOW ARE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THAT AND BUILDING THE HIGHER DATA CENTERS. NOW, THREE STORY DATA CENTER IS THE IS THE POPULAR ONE. RIGHT NOW. IT'S GOOD FROM AN EFFICIENCY STANDPOINT. UNFORTUNATELY A THREE STORY DATA CENTER IS NOT THE SAME HEIGHT AS A THREE STORY 
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OFFICE BUILDING. A THREE STORY DATA CENTER IS GOING UP AROUND THE 100 FOOT RANGE. SO THEY'RE VERY, VERY TALL. THEN WHEN WE GOT TO LOOKING AT AT THE IMPACTS AND, AND WE KNOW THAT WE, YOU KNOW HOW MUCH MORE LAND WE WERE RUNNING OUT OF LAND FOR DATA CENTERS. WE, WE HAD REQUESTS FOR IN OUR RURAL AREA TO REZONE AND REPLAN THAT AREA FOR DATA CENTERS. IT WAS ABOUT 2100 ACRES, SO WE NEEDED TO FIND MORE LAND. WE NEEDED TO MAKE SURE WE HAD THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND MET THE INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS. LOOK AT WATER QUALITY IMPACTS, BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF IMPERVIOUS AREA ASSOCIATED WITH DATA CENTERS. WE ALSO WANTED TO PROTECT VIEWS FROM CULTURAL RESOURCES. THIS PARTICULAR ONE WAS NEXT TO THE MANASSAS NATIONAL BATTLEFIELD PARK, AND WE WANTED TO PROTECT THE VIEWS FOR THE VISITORS TO THE PARK. WE WANTED TO PRESERVE OPEN SPACE. 
          AND SO IN THE PLAN, WE PROVIDED FOR LOTS OF STREAM VALLEYS, PROTECTION, WILDLIFE CORRIDORS AND PARKS TO HELP MITIGATE SOME OF THE IMPACTS AND LOOKED AT AT LOOKING FOR GREEN TECHNOLOGIES TO HELP IMPROVE THE ENERGY EFFICIENCY AND SUSTAINABILITY OF DATA CENTERS. BUT THERE IS JUST REALLY TOO MANY DATA CENTERS COMING IN. AND THEY COULD DEMAND A HUGE PRICE FOR LAND. AND SO INDUSTRIAL LAND PRICES JUST REALLY WENT UP HIGH. OF COURSE, THAT INCREASED OUR REAL ESTATE TAXES AND FOR INDUSTRY AND OTHER INDUSTRIES THAT WERE HAVING TROUBLE FINDING AVAILABLE LAND AND IN SOME CASES, STAYING IN BECAUSE THEIR ASSESSED VALUE OF THEIR LAND WENT UP AND THEIR TAXES WENT, THEREFORE WENT UP. AND SO SOME OF OUR BUSINESSES WERE HAVING TROUBLE, YOU KNOW, STAYING IN IN THEIR INDUSTRIAL ZONED LAND. SO THAT WAS A PROBLEM THAT WE MADE BY APPROVING THOSE. THE PRINCE WILLIAM DIGITAL GATEWAY, WHICH AGAIN, WAS A 2100, A 2100 ACRES OF LAND TO ALLOW IT'S HEADING UP THIS TRANSMISSION LINE THAT HEADS UP INTO LOUDOUN COUNTY. 
          THEY ARE BUILDING THE ROADS AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND STREET TREES. THEY'RE MITIGATING THEIR VISUAL IMPACTS, THEIR NOISE IMPACTS THROUGH STUDIES AND MODELS, NOISE MODELS SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU ALL ARE PROPOSING. AND ALSO THEY CONTRIBUTED A LOT TO CULTURAL RESOURCE PRESERVATION AND PROVIDED THE WILDLIFE CORRIDORS AND, AND STREAM PROTECTIONS THAT WE WERE LOOKING FOR AND THE SUSTAINABILITY THAT WE WERE LOOKING FOR. WE ALSO, WHEN WE UPDATED OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IN 2022, REALIZED THAT, WELL, LOOK, WE NEED TO RESERVE SOME LAND THAT THE DATA CENTERS CAN'T GO INTO SO THAT OUR OTHER BUSINESSES, OUR FLEX USES, OUR CONTRACTORS, OUR CONSTRUCTION TRADES CAN FIND SOME LAND TO HAVE THEIR BUSINESSES ON IN THE COUNTY. AND SO WE CREATED ANOTHER COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, LONG RANGE LAND USE, THAT WAS FOR LIGHT MANUFACTURING AND STARTUP BUSINESSES, BUT NOT DATA CENTERS IN THE THAT PARTICULAR LONG RANGE LAND USE. SO THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED IN THAT. THEN THE LAST ISSUE THAT WE WERE TRACKING TACKLING WAS THE NOISE. SO WE HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S THAT'S IMPACTED. IT HAS A DATA CENTER NEARBY. IT'S GETTING MORE DATA CENTERS BUILT AROUND IT. THEY ARE HAVING A LOT OF ISSUES WITH THE NOISE FROM THE DATA CENTERS. THEY'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE DATA CENTER OPERATOR TO TRY AND MAKE CHANGES PUT UP. BAFFLING JUST TO SCREEN THE FANS. BUT THERE IS A LOT OF LOW FREQUENCY NOISE THAT'S CONTINUOUS. THAT IS ANNOYING AND MAKES IT VERY UNCOMFORTABLE FOR THE NEIGHBORS. AND THAT ISN'T REALLY MEASURED WELL BY YOUR STANDARD. EQUIPMENT. SO. YES, 
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QUESTION. NO. SO WE ARE LOOKING AT REVISING OUR NOISE ORDINANCE RIGHT NOW AND USING A WEIGHTED C DBC STANDARD, WHICH TAKES INTO ACCOUNT THOSE LOWER FREQUENCY NOISE THAT AREN'T TAKEN IN BY THE DBA. ALSO, IN OUR CURRENT EFFORT, WE HAVE A DATA CENTER OVERLAY ADVISORY GROUP THAT WE'RE WORKING ON, THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND THE OUR DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION STANDARDS MANUAL, LOOKING AT NEW SEPARATION AND BUFFERED STANDARDS, NEW BULK AND MASSING STANDARDS, SITE LAYOUT AND BUILDING CONFIGURATION. WE'RE LOOKING AT ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS, SUBSTATION SCREENING AND LOCATION, POWER AND ENERGY, WHERE THE TRANSMISSION LINES MIGHT BE COMING FROM DECOMMISSIONING IN CASE IN THE FUTURE. THERE'S NO LONGER A NEED FOR THIS DATA CENTER. AND THEN. 
          FINALLY, THE WATER SUPPLY AND THE CONSTRUCTION IMPACTS, INCLUDING NOISE DURING CONSTRUCTION. BUT ALSO WE HAVE LOTS OF FILL DIRT BEING REMOVED FROM THE THESE CONSTRUCTION SITES THAT THERE'S NOWHERE TO GO. AND THERE'S NOWHERE IN NORTHERN VIRGINIA TO BRING DIRT AND DUMP DIRT. SO WE'RE HAVING IT'S GOING OUT TO FARMS AND, AND OTHER PLACES AND CAUSING A LOT OF DAMAGE TO OUR RURAL ROADS WITH ALL THE TRUCKS. SO WE'RE TRYING TO DEAL WITH THAT AS WELL. SO LOOKING AHEAD, WE'RE UPDATING THE NOISE ORDINANCE, THE ZONING ORDINANCE, THE DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION STANDARDS MANUAL, TRYING TO PROVIDE INPUT ON NEW TRANSMISSION LINES AND WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO BE LOCATED. AND WE MAY LOOK AT SHRINKING OR REMOVING THE OVERLAY DISTRICT. AND I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AS WELL. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION, DAVID. AND ALSO, BUDDY, LOOK I SEE IT'S A LOT OF GROWTH GOING ON IN NORTHERN VIRGINIA. A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVEN'T ARE NOT AWARE OF THE HUGE DATA CENTER GROWTH THAT'S GOING ON UP THERE. AND I KNOW CITY COUNCIL IS DEFINITELY WILLING TO LOOK AT HELPING YOU ALL WITH SOME OF THAT GROWTH DOWN HERE IN PETERSBURG WITH THOSE NUMBERS YOU JUST SHOWED US. DEFINITELY MAKE IT VERY INTRIGUING FOR US DOWN HERE IN CENTRAL VIRGINIA. NEXT, ANY QUESTIONS FROM MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL? COUNCILMAN CUTBIRTH. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. MR. MCGEADY, MR. MCGETTIGAN, THANK YOU FOR PRESENTING TO US TODAY. SORRY WE DON'T HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MEET YOU IN PERSON. I HAD THE PLEASURE OF VISITING. YOU GOT TO SPEAK UP. 
          FAIRLY LOUD. AM I GOING TO BE? MR. MCGETTIGAN? CAN YOU HEAR ME? IS THAT A CAN YOU HEAR ME, MR. MCGEADY? YEAH, I CAN HEAR YOU NOW. OKAY, GOOD. I HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF VISITING PRINCE WILLIAM COUNTY LAST FRIDAY. WENT TO. I THINK IT WAS IT INNOVATION PARK. IT WAS A 1500 ACRE INDUSTRIAL PARK. IT LOOKED LIKE IT WAS DEDICATED TO DATA CENTERS. IN ANY EVENT, COUNCILMAN WESTBROOK AND I VISITED AND WERE QUITE IMPRESSED. IT'S AN AMAZING, AMAZING. PIECE OF ELECTRONIC AND TECHNICAL WORK THAT WE OBSERVED. I HAVE A QUESTION THAT REALLY DEALS WITH A FOOTNOTE, BUT A RELATED FOOTNOTE. YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT DIFFERENT WAYS TO MEASURE NOISE, THAT THERE WAS A TRADITIONAL WAY AND YOU REFERRED TO IT, I THINK, AS DBA. 
          AND THEN THERE IS A SECOND WAY THAT MEASURES LOW FREQUENCY SOUND AS WELL. AND MAYBE THAT'S CBC. DO I HAVE THOSE LETTERS CORRECTLY? IT WAS DBC. YEAH. SO YEAH THE AND WE'RE WE'RE LOOKING AT REGULATING IN OCTAVE BANDS SO THAT WE GET SOME OF THOSE. WE HAVE A ACOUSTICAL CONSULTANT ON 
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BOARD HELPING US FIGURE OUT WHAT THOSE LEVELS SHOULD BE AT. BE GLAD TO SHARE SOME OF THE MATERIALS THAT THE DATA CENTER OVERLAY ADVISORY GROUP HAS SEEN ON ON THIS. AND OUR DRAFT NOISE ORDINANCE, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE MUCH MORE EXPANDED. AND HOPEFULLY THE PROBLEM WITH ENFORCING NOISE IS YOU WANT TO BE ABLE TO SEPARATE OUT THE CONTINUOUS NOISE FROM THE OTHER OTHER NOISES THAT THAT YOU CAN'T. SO YOU DON'T GET ANY FALSE POSITIVES OUT THERE WHEN YOUR YOUR POLICE ARE OUT THERE TRYING TO MEASURE THE, THE VOLUME OF THE NOISE AND, AND GETTING READINGS THAT MAY BE RELATED TO CRICKETS OR LOCAL TRAFFIC ON THE ROAD, THINGS THAT ARE HARD TO DISCERN. WHAT'S THE FAULT OF THE DATA CENTER AND THEIR HVAC SYSTEMS, AND WHAT'S OTHER EXTRANEOUS NOISES. SO YOU HAVE TO FILTER THOSE OUT. USING DBC ALLOWS US TO DO THAT. AND ALSO SETS WE CAN DO STRICTER STANDARDS ON ON DBC FOR THOSE LOWER FREQUENCY CONTINUOUS NOISES TO HELP ACTUALLY GET TO THE ROOT OF THE NOISE PROBLEM AND NOT BE DISTRACTED BY OTHER EXTRANEOUS NOISES. IT REQUIRES DIFFERENT EQUIPMENT AND SPECIAL TRAINING FOR THE ENFORCEMENT OF THAT, BUT IT'S A LITTLE MORE COMPLICATED THAN, THAN YOUR YOUR STANDARD NOISE MEASURING, WHICH IS YOUR USUAL YOUR NOISE ORDINANCE IS REALLY GEARED TOWARDS THOSE PARTIES AND OTHER THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING THAT ARE NOT CONTINUOUS NOISE. SO ALL RIGHT. WELL, WELL THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. WOULD YOU EMAIL PLEASE. OUR CITY MANAGER THE ANY USEFUL INFORMATION THAT YOU HAVE ABOUT THIS DBC LOW FREQUENCY NOISE MEASUREMENT OR BECAUSE IT'S A NEW CONCEPT I THOUGHT DECIBELS WERE DECIBELS, BUT APPARENTLY DECIBELS ARE NOT ALWAYS JUST DECIBELS. THEY'RE ALL NOT ALL THE SAME, AM I? AM I CORRECT IN THAT? THAT'S CORRECT. 
          RIGHT. OKAY, WELL, I'VE LEARNED A LOT IN THE LAST WEEK AND I'LL ADD THAT TO THIS TO THE MY LIST OF THINGS LEARNED. IF YOU CAN HELP ME LEARN EVEN MORE ABOUT THAT DISTINCTION AND HOW TO TAKE IT INTO ACCOUNT, THAT WILL BE VERY HELPFUL. DO YOU HAVE CONTACT INFORMATION FOR OUR CITY MANAGER OR DO YOU KNOW HOW TO GET THAT? YEAH, WE I CAN CERTAINLY SEND OVER THE INFORMATION THAT WE'VE COLLECTED AND A DRAFT OF OUR NOISE ORDINANCE. THAT IS. NO NO PROBLEM. THAT WOULD BE GREAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. OKAY. NEXT WE HAVE QUESTION VICE MAYOR HILL. YES. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. I APPRECIATE BOTH OF YOU ALL COMING ON. IF YOU HAD TO PICK ONE THING BECAUSE I SAID IN MR. BUDDY'S CLASS AT VML, I THINK IT WAS DOWN IN NORFOLK NOT TOO LONG AGO. VIRGINIA BEACH. YEAH, I WAS IN HIS CLASS AT THE VML CONFERENCE AND MYSELF AND COUNCILMAN WESTBROOK, WE WERE BLOWN AWAY WITH ALL THE WITH HIS PRESENTATION, JUST AS THIS ONE HAS BEEN. IF YOU HAVE TO NAME ONE THING THAT MAYBE GIVES YOU A HEADACHE OR GIVE THE CITIZENS A HEADACHE, WHAT WOULD IT BE? ONE THING. EITHER ONE OF YOU ALL, EITHER ONE OF YOU. WELL, RIGHT NOW IT'S NOISE IS THE BIG THE BIGGEST CONCERN THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW. AND YOU KNOW, THE SECOND IS MAY BE THE ELECTRICAL CONSUMPTION OF THIS DATA CENTERS IS, IS REALLY HUGE. AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW, HOW WE CAN GET THESE TRANSMISSION LINES AND, AND ALL THE SUBSTATIONS THAT ARE GOING IN. IT'S A LOT OF IMPACT ON THE VISUALLY, ON OUR CULTURAL RESOURCES, ON OUR, OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. AND SO THAT'S THAT'S A BIG ONE TOO. THERE REALLY THERE'S THREE WAYS OF COOLING A DATA CENTER. ONE IS JUST AIR HANDLERS ALONE, WHICH THOSE MAKE THE MOST NOISE. ONE IS WATER SYSTEMS AND THE TWO ARE EVAPORATIVE COOLING WATER 
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SYSTEMS WHICH CONSUME A LARGE AMOUNT OF WATER AND SO CAN BE PROBLEMATIC. AND THEN THERE'S CLOSED LOOP SYSTEMS THAT ONLY HAVE TO BE CHANGED OUT ONCE A YEAR SO THEY DON'T CONSUME AS MUCH WATER. THEY'RE QUIETER, THEY DON'T. THE TECHNOLOGY DOESN'T WORK IN EVERY CASE, THOUGH. SO THE DATA CENTERS ARE ARE LESS LIKELY TO GO THAT ROUTE. BUT THE CONSUME LESS ELECTRICITY, A LITTLE LESS ELECTRICITY. AND THAT IS SOMETHING TO CONSIDER IN IN HOW HOW THESE ARE COOLED, WHETHER IT'S WATER OR ELECTRIC. AND THEN IF IT'S ELECTRIC, YOU KNOW, DO WE HAVE ENOUGH ELECTRICITY. AND IS THE NOISE GOING TO BE TOO MUCH. AND I WOULD SAY HERE IN LOUDOUN COUNTY, WE DON'T GET A LOT OF COMPLAINTS ABOUT NOISE. WE DON'T HEAR A LOT ABOUT THAT. 
          BUT WE DO GET A LOT ABOUT THE TOWERS. WE'RE GETTING HIGH VOLTAGE LINES IN PLACES WHERE WE HADN'T INTENDED THEM. YOU KNOW, WE SPENT YEARS, LITERALLY YEARS TELLING DOMINION WE DO NOT WANT POWER LINES DOWN ROUTE SEVEN. I MEAN, THEY KNEW IT. WE KNEW IT. IT WAS WRITTEN. IT WAS SAID. IT WAS. I MEAN, AND NOW WE'RE GOING TO GET POWER LINES DOWN ROUTE SEVEN. AND THAT HAS NOT GONE OVER WELL IN OUR COMMUNITY. BUT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE SOUTHERN LINE, WHICH DIDN'T HAVE A LOT OF IMPACT, BUT THAT NORTHERN LINE DOWN ROUTE SEVEN AND THEN THE NORTH SOUTH CONNECTOR DOWN LOUDOUN COUNTY PARKWAY ARE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF CHALLENGES. AND THAT'S GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE VERY POPULAR. SO THAT'S BEEN THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE FOR US IS DEALING WITH THAT ENERGY CONSUMPTION IS OBVIOUSLY A BIG DEAL. I MEAN, THE DATA CENTERS ARE GOING TO USE ENERGY SOMEWHERE. IT'S JUST WHAT DOES THAT IMPACT AND HOW DOES THAT IMPACT THE INFRASTRUCTURE HERE? THE OTHER THING THAT DAVE WAS SAYING ABOUT THE COOLING IS WE'RE GOING TO SEE ANOTHER TRANSITION OF THAT AS BECAUSE AIR COOLING RIGHT NOW IS PROBABLY ABOUT 50% OF WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH HERE, BUT THERE IS NO AIR COOLING THAT IS STRONG ENOUGH TO COOL SOME OF THE NEW BLACKWELL CHIPS FROM NVIDIA. SO ALL OF THAT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE DIRECT CHIP COOLING TO THE CHIP ITSELF. SO IT'S GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, SOME SORT OF LIQUID TO THE CHIP. SO THAT'S GOING TO PROBABLY HAVE AN IMPACT I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT'S GOING TO DO. BUT I MEAN, IT IS GOING TO DRIVE ENERGY USAGE EVEN HIGHER. OKAY. AND LAST QUESTION FROM ME, MR. MAYOR, IF I MAY, WHAT HAS BEEN THE GREATEST IMPACT AS FAR AS YOUR UTILITIES, YOUR WATER AND YOUR ELECTRIC FROM YOUR RESIDENTS? HAVE THEIR BILLS GONE UP, DOWN, MAINTAINED OR WHAT? SO FAR, THERE HAS NOT BEEN AN IMPACT ON COST FOR WATER OR ELECTRIC, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IT'S A REGULATED UTILITY. DEPENDING ON HOW MUCH INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS TO GET BUILT, THAT COULD CHANGE. THE PRICE OF ELECTRICITY HAS BEEN FAIRLY CONSISTENT FOR AS LONG AS I'VE BEEN HERE IN VIRGINIA. BUT, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT THERE ARE SEVERAL BILLS COMING UP IN THE LEGISLATION IN THE LEGISLATURE THAT ARE GOING TO BE VERY IMPORTANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE MAJOR USERS ARE PAYING FOR THEIR SHARE OF INFRASTRUCTURE. SO KEEP AN EYE OUT FOR THAT, BECAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THAT'S GOING TO BE VERY IMPORTANT. BUT BUT SO FAR THE PRICE OF ELECTRICITY HASN'T HASN'T GONE UP MUCH FOR OUR RESIDENTS. THE OTHER POINT I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT IS THAT EVEN THOUGH WE HAD THAT SHORTAGE OF POWER FROM 2022 TO 2025 WILL BE THE GRID WAS NEVER IN DANGER. WE NEVER HAD BROWNOUTS. WE YOU KNOW, THE INTEGRITY OF THE GRID WAS ALWAYS THE PRIORITY FOR DOMINION. AND THAT'S NEVER BEEN A QUESTION HERE. THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. YEAH, I. I WAS GOING TO SAY OUR, OUR SIMILAR OUR OUR WATER. YOU THE NEW USERS PAY PAY THEIR WAY SO THERE'S NO IMPACT ON ON WATER SERVICE TO ANYBODY. THE UTILITY PAYS A TAP FEE THAT COVERS THE COST OF NEW SERVICE, INCLUDING THE TRANSMISSION AND THE. AND THE RATES ARE SIMILAR AS FAR AS ELECTRIC RATES, WHAT BUDDY HAD MENTIONED. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT. I JUST WANTED TO CHIME IN ON THAT AS WELL. I KNOW WHEN I TOURED THE STACKS DATA CENTER IN 
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PRINCE WILLIAM, IT WAS THE EQUIVALENT OF THE NOISE WAS THE EQUIVALENT OF STANDING NEXT TO YOUR YOUR AIR CONDITIONING RUNNING. SO IT WAS REALLY THE THOSE LOW FREQUENCY SOUNDS, WHICH IS NOT I WAS SURPRISED THAT THOSE YOU CAN HAVE THAT MANY RUNNING AND BE THAT QUIET PULLING UP ON STACKS. I COULDN'T HEAR ANYTHING, BUT ONCE I GOT CLOSE TO IT, I KNOW THAT'S THE NEW ERA OF DATA CENTERS. I HEARD THEY ARE A LOT QUIETER IS BECAUSE I KNOW IN THE PAST I THINK THE NOISE WAS MORE OF AN ISSUE. ARE THE NEW ONES, ARE YOU SEEING A LOT QUIETER BETWEEN DAVID AND BUDDY? THE NEWER DATA CENTERS LIKE STACKS, OR IS IT BASED ON THE SQUARE FOOTAGE? IS THAT MILLION SQUARE FOOTAGE ONE WOULD BE PUTTING OUT A LOT MORE NOISE. I KNOW I WILL BE NOT REALLY POLITICALLY CORRECT AND SAY IT'S NOT SO MUCH ABOUT NEW ONES OR OLD ONES AS MUCH AS IT IS THE COMPANIES. SOME COMPANIES TAKE IT VERY SERIOUSLY AND DO EVERYTHING THAT'S REQUIRED AS FAR AS MAINTAINING THEIR EQUIPMENT AND MAKING SURE THAT THE, THE, THE BUFFERING IS, IS RIGHT AND THE, YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE THAT IT'S INTERIOR TO THE CAMPUS. BUT THERE ARE A COUPLE COMPANIES, ONE MAJOR COMPANY THAT DOESN'T CARE AS MUCH AS SOME OF THE OTHERS, FRANKLY. SO BUT YEAH, I THINK THAT THE NEWER THE NEWER CONSTRUCTION OUTSIDE OF THAT COMPANY HAVE HAVE REALLY DONE A VERY GOOD JOB OF MINIMIZING THE IMPACT BETTER. RIGHT? YEAH, I WOULD AGREE. AND EVERY DATA CENTER IS EQUAL. WE HAVE SOME DATA CENTERS THAT ARE ARE QUIET ALREADY. AND THEY THEY IT WASN'T REALLY AN ISSUE WITH THE EXISTING DATA CENTERS. THAT'S JUST SOME CAME IN AND RUINED IT FOR EVERYBODY ELSE I GUESS WITH THEIR THEIR NOISE AS THE I GUESS THE WAY I SEE IT. 
          OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT INSIGHT. NEXT QUESTION, COUNCILMAN JONES. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. GENTLEMEN, HOW ARE YOU GUYS DOING FOR LOUDOUN COUNTY? I THINK I WROTE MY NOTES, RIGHT. 
          HE SAID 20 MILES OF PIPELINE. THAT'S FOR WATER, RIGHT? YES. ALL RIGHT. AND I THINK I HEARD YOU SAY 600 MILLION GALLONS IS USED. 600 MILLION GALLONS OF WATER IS USED. IS THAT A YEAR OR WHAT? WHAT HOW OFTEN IS THAT? YEAH. AND THAT'S RECLAIMED. THE ACTUAL WATER USE IS MUCH MORE THAN THAT. BUT THE RECLAIMED IS 20 MILES. THAT KIND OF CIRCLES. WHAT WAS OUR ORIGINAL DATA CENTER ALLEY. AND I'M ASKING THE QUESTION BECAUSE I THINK WE ALL CAN LEARN FROM FROM WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE IN PLACE. AND FOR WE ALWAYS TALK ABOUT THE POWER OUTAGES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. BUT RICHMOND JUST HAD AN ISSUE WITH THEIR WATER AND IT WENT FROM A DATA CENTER. NOTHING LIKE THAT. BUT IT WAS REDUNDANCY. HAVING A SYSTEM FOR THE BACKUP SYSTEM, FOR THE BACKUP SYSTEM WITH THEIR PUMPS AND THINGS. DO YOU GUYS HAVE A SYSTEM IN PLACE WITH THE DATA SYSTEM? I KNOW IT'S A CIRCLE THING, BUT DID YOU BUILD ANYTHING IN CASE THAT HAPPENED UP THERE? WELL, WE HAVE DEFINITELY MADE SURE THAT WE ARE PRIORITIZING RELIABILITY IN THE WATER SYSTEM. WE HAVE INVESTED A LOT OF MONEY INTO THAT. AS DAVID MENTIONED, THE UTILITY, THE LOUDOUN WATER. IN OUR CASE, YOU HAVE TO PAY TO GET ON THE SYSTEM AND YOU HAVE TO PAY YOUR SHARE OF THAT INFRASTRUCTURE. SO IT'S A SIGNIFICANT COST. BUT I THINK THAT WE'VE DONE A PRETTY GOOD JOB AS A COUNTY IN PLANNING FOR THOSE THOSE CHALLENGES. WATER HASN'T REALLY BEEN A CHALLENGE FOR US HERE BECAUSE WE TAKE OUR WATER FROM THE POTOMAC RIVER. WE HAVE A FAIRLY, FAIRLY ROBUST SYSTEM, AND WE HAVE ABOUT 40 BUILDINGS THAT ARE USING THE RECLAIM LINE. SO ALL OF THAT'S GOOD. BUT YEAH, PRIORITIZING THE RELIABILITY IN ALL SYSTEMS AND MAKING SURE YOU HAVE BACKUPS IN PLACE IS GOING TO BE CRITICAL. THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND ONE MORE THING. REVENUE IS A PART OF THAT $1.2 BILLION TAX THAT YOU'RE GETTING. ARE YOU GETTING GOOD REVENUE FROM YOUR WATER, FROM YOUR WATER SALES USAGE AND ALL OF THE DATA CENTERS? LOUDOUN WATER IS AN AUTHORITY. SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE IN PRINCE WILLIAM, BUT LOUDOUN WATER IS AN AUTHORITY. SO ANY MONEY THAT COMES INTO LOUDOUN WATER IS ACTUALLY SUPPOSED TO GO INTO THE SYSTEM AND FOR OPERATIONS. SO NONE OF THAT COMES BACK TO THE COUNTY. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THAT'S ALL I GOT, MR. MAYOR. RIGHT. COUNCILWOMAN SPITZLEY, GOOD EVENING AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR 
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PRESENTATION. I HAVE SOME FRIENDS THAT LIVE IN FAIRFAX COUNTY, AND THEY LIVE NEAR A DATA CENTER. SO THEY WERE SAYING THAT THEIR ELECTRIC BILL HAS INCREASED. BUT I HEARD WHAT YOU EXPLAINED TO. COUNCILMAN HILL THAT THAT'S NOT TRUE. I CAN'T SAY IN EVERY CASE THE ELECTRIC BILLS HAVEN'T GONE UP. BUT I THINK THE AVERAGE, THE AVERAGE BILL WE HAVE NOT SEEN, THERE'S NOT DATA THAT SUPPORTS THAT. THE THAT THE RATES HAVE GONE UP SIGNIFICANTLY. IT'S WAY, WAY BELOW INFLATION RATES. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH GUYS FOR THE PRESENTATION. 
          Y'ALL KEEP DOING THOSE GREAT THINGS UP THERE IN NORTHERN VIRGINIA. AND WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO BRINGING OUR TAX OUR TAX RATE DOWN LIKE YOU GUYS DID. SO Y'ALL DEFINITELY HAVE GET SHARED THE BLUEPRINT WITH US THIS EVENING. AND WE GREATLY APPRECIATE BOTH OF YOUR PRESENTATIONS. YEAH. AND IF YOU NEED ANY IF YOU HAVE ANY FOLLOW UPS YOU KNOW GARRETT AND TEAM KNOW HOW TO REACH US. SO JUST LET ME KNOW OKAY. PERFECT. THANK YOU. Y'ALL HAVE A GOOD EVENING. 
          YEAH. YOU TOO. ALL RIGHT. THAT WAS A GREAT PRESENTATION RIGHT THERE ON THE DATA CENTERS. AND AT THIS TIME BEING WE'RE TALKING DATA CENTERS. I'D LIKE TO AMEND OUR AGENDA HERE AND MOVE ITEM 
          [8. Official Public Hearing]
EIGHT, WHICH IS OFFICIAL PUBLIC HEARINGS, WHICH IS ITEM EIGHT A, WHICH IS A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE CONSIDERATION OF THE ORDINANCE TO AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE AN OPTION AGREEMENT AND CONVEY PROPERTY UPON SATISFACTION OF TERMS TO THE AGENDA. VICE MAYOR HILL SO MOVED. COUNCILMAN WESTBROOK SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. THE MOTION CARRIES. SO NEXT, WE'LL HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE CONSIDERATION OF THE ORDINANCE TO AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE AN OPTION AGREEMENT AND CONVEY PROPERTY UPON SATISFACTION OF TERMS. ANY HANDS WITH THE PUBLIC HEARING. MISS RUDOLPH. THANK YOU. MAYOR PARHAM. BARB RUDOLPH, 1675 MOUNT VERNON STREET. I WANT TO SAY TWO. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION. I BELIEVE THAT VICE MAYOR HILL, MAYBE OR COUNSELOR WESTBROOK REFERRED TO IT BEFORE, LIKE YOU WERE BRINGING IT FROM SOMETHING YOU GOT FROM VML. ANYWAY. IT WAS VERY IT WAS VERY ENLIGHTENING AND HELPFUL. BUT I THINK HAVING SEEN THAT, IT UNDERSCORES THE CHALLENGES AND THE OPPORTUNITIES AND LOOKING AT WHAT YOU'VE GOT HERE. I'M NOT READING IT, BUT MY MEMORY TEST WAS THE SALE PRICE IS SOMETHING LIKE EIGHT, 63, 400, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. BUT THAT'S IN OTHER WORDS, IT'S THE ASSESSED VALUE OF THE LAND THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING TO SELL. FROM WHAT I REMEMBER, THE SECOND GENTLEMAN FROM PRINCE WILLIAM TALKED ABOUT THE HUGE INCREASE IN PROPERTY VALUES BASED ON DATA AND THE DESIRABILITY OF, YOU KNOW, THE LAND FOR DATA CENTER BUILDING AND SO FORTH. BUT I'M ALSO AWARE THAT I KNOW AT LEAST ONE CITIZEN HAS BEEN COMMUNICATING WITH YOU WITH INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT WHAT KIND OF PRICES ARE ARE OUT THERE WHEN LAND IS SOLD FOR DATA CENTERS. SO I'M HOPING YOU'RE TAKING THAT INTO CONSIDERATION. I REALIZE THAT SELLING SOMETHING AT FULL ASSESSED VALUE IS UNUSUAL. WHEN THE POLICY HAS BEEN TO SELL THINGS AT HALF, BUT EVEN IN THIS CASE, SELLING IT AT THE FULL VALUE, I BELIEVE, LIKE MR. CURRY'S INFORMATION SHOWED, THAT THE IT'S THAT'S STILL FAR, FAR LESS THAN WHAT THE GOING RATE IS. AND I REALIZE WE'RE NOT IN NORTHERN VIRGINIA, BUT YOU KNOW, YOU ALL I MEAN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY AND THAT'S GREAT. I MEAN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THIS AS A WAY TO INCREASE REVENUE IN PETERSBURG. BUT PART OF THAT IS THE SALE PRICE. AND THEN THE WHAT, YOU KNOW, THEN WHAT THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY BECOMES. AND THEN YOU ALL, YOU KNOW, GETTING TAX TAXABLE REVENUE FROM THAT. SO I URGE YOU TO RECONSIDER THE SALES PRICE. AND I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE RUSH IS WITH THIS PARTICULAR. I MEAN, WE'VE JUST HEARD A LOT ABOUT DATA CENTERS, BUT WE'RE NOT HEARING REALLY ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR PLAN AND WHAT THIS GROUP IS AND WHAT THEIR BACKGROUND IS. SO IT JUST SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD BENEFIT FROM A LITTLE BIT OF SLOWING DOWN. AND MORE INFORMATION. THANK YOU. DOCTOR SARAH. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO 
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SPEAK. GOOD EVENING AND THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATIONS. I THINK THERE WERE A LOT OF VERY IMPORTANT ISSUES THAT WERE BROUGHT UP, ESPECIALLY WITH POWER LINES. I KNOW THAT WHERE MY PARENTS LIVE, THEY'RE DEALING WITH THAT RIGHT NOW, AND IT REALLY DOES HAVE A HUGE IMPACT ON THE WAY A COMMUNITY FEELS. I'D ALSO LIKE TO ECHO MISS RUDOLPH'S COMMENTS THAT MAYBE WE NEED A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH ONE OF THOSE GOOD DATA CENTER COMPANIES, AND NOT ONE OF THOSE THAT IS NOT RESPONSIVE. THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION OUT THERE THAT DATA CENTERS HAVE, DESPITE ALL THE DATA THAT THEY PROCESS, HAVE A HARD TIME REPORTING THE DATA ABOUT THEIR OWN. OWN PROPERTIES. THE OTHER QUESTION I THINK WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT IS, YOU MAY REMEMBER MAYBE EIGHT YEARS AGO, NINE YEARS AGO, THERE WAS A VERY BAD DROUGHT IN VIRGINIA. PEOPLE WERE ASKED TO LIMIT THEIR WATER USE. RESIDENTS WERE ASKED TO LIMIT THEIR WATER USE. AND SO I'D LIKE YOU TO THINK VERY CLEARLY ABOUT HOW THOSE CHOICES ARE MADE WHEN WE'RE WHEN WE HAVE LIMITED WATER, DO THE RESIDENTS GET THAT WATER FIRST OR DOES THE DATA CENTER GET THAT WATER FIRST? WE DON'T HAVE A POTOMAC RIVER HERE. WE HAVE A APPOMATTOX RIVER. AND I'VE WALKED ACROSS THAT APPOMATTOX RIVER WITHOUT GETTING MY FEET WET IN THOSE DROUGHT YEARS. AND SO I THINK THAT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO THINK ABOUT. 
          FINALLY, WITH THE NOISE THIS SUMMER, THE POLICE STATION HAD AN OUTDOOR AIR CONDITIONER UNIT. 
          IT'S RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM MY HOUSE, AND EVEN THAT ONE SINGLE SMALL AIR CONDITIONER UNIT FOR THE COURTHOUSES, THAT LOW FREQUENCY SOUND REALLY MAKES IT HARD TO SLEEP, MAKES IT HARD TO THINK YOU CAN'T GET RID OF THE NOISE AT ALL. AND SO I THINK COUNCILMAN CUTHBERTSON INQUIRY ABOUT HOW WE ACTUALLY MEASURE NOISE AND THE IMPACT OF THAT NOISE ON PEOPLE IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT TO DEAL WITH. AND SO I WOULD JUST LIKE TO GO BACK TO MISS RUDOLPH'S POINT. WE NEED TO SLOW DOWN. YOU NEED TO INFORM THE CITIZENS OF WHAT THE STANDARDS ARE FOR PETERSBURG BEFORE WE GO INTO ANY PURCHASE PRICE. THIS PROPERTY IS VERY CLOSE TO ONE OF OUR NATURAL AREAS IN PETERSBURG. WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF GREEN SPACE LEFT, AND WHEN YOU LOSE IT, YOU LOSE IT. OKAY. AND SO I THINK WE ALL LOVE LEGENDS PARK, AND I DON'T THINK THAT WE WANT TO SPEND OUR TIME IN LEGENDS PARK WITH THE CONSTANT DRONE OR THE VIEW OF A DATA CENTER BEHIND THAT. SO I THINK YOU NEED TO SLOW DOWN AND SHARE WHAT YOU'VE LEARNED. I APPRECIATE THIS PRESENTATION, BUT WE NEED TO KNOW WHERE YOU GUYS STAND AND REALLY MAKE THAT. MAYBE HAVE A PUBLIC INFORMATION SESSION SO THAT WE CAN REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT YOUR PRIORITIES ARE, WHAT THE CITIZENS PRIORITIES ARE, AND WHAT OUR STANDARDS ARE, BECAUSE I THINK PETERSBURG CAN ACTUALLY DO MUCH BETTER AND LEARN FROM A LOT OF THE MISTAKES OF SOME OF THESE OTHER CITIES THAT WE SAW PRESENTING TODAY. ALL RIGHT. SEEING NO OTHER HANDS. THIS PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED. 
          NEXT, VICE MAYOR HILL. MR. MAYOR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL MAKE A MOTION THAT ONE SECOND. HI. GOOD EVENING. NAOMI SELL MY PLANNING DIRECTOR. OF COURSE NOT. PUBLIC COMMENT, BUT I DID WANT TO SHARE. SO WE HAD THE PRESENTATIONS TODAY ON DATA CENTERS BECAUSE THEY WERE REQUESTED IN NOVEMBER AFTER WE HAD A FIRST READ AND A PUBLIC HEARING ON A PROPOSED TEXT AMENDMENT. THAT TEXT AMENDMENT HAS YET TO BE ADOPTED. SO I WANTED TO SHARE THAT. SO CURRENTLY, DATA CENTERS AREN'T LEGAL IN OUR CODE. I KNOW GENERALLY THESE MEETINGS ARE JUST WORK SESSIONS. BUT IF YOU'RE TAKING ACTION DATA CENTERS, WE HAD THE FIRST READ. 
          WE HAD THE PUBLIC HEARING. IF YOU'D LIKE TO ALSO TAKE ACTION ON THAT TEXT AMENDMENT TO MAKE SURE DATA CENTERS ARE LEGAL AND REGULATED BEFORE APPROVING A CONTRACT TO SELL PROPERTY. FOR THAT, I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT UP AS A POTENTIAL TO CONSIDER. OKAY, MISS WILLIAMS. YEAH, I RECOMMEND YOU CONSIDER THIS SINCE IT'S IN FRONT OF YOU. BUT THE ONE THING THAT I WANTED TO SAY TO ADDRESS THE PUBLIC COMMENT AND CONCERN OF HOW FAST COUNCIL IS MOVING, IF GARRETT CAN MOVE DOWN JUST A BIT IN WHAT HE'S GOT ON THE SCREEN TO NUMBER TWO, THIS IS JUST AN OPTION. 
          COUNCIL. THIS IS GOING TO COME BACK IN FRONT OF COUNCIL. AND IT'S GOT TO. BE TO THE 
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SATISFACTION OF COUNCIL IN ORDER FOR THERE TO BE AN ACTUAL CLOSING ON THE PROPERTY. SO THAT'S WHAT THAT READ PROVISION THAT WE ADDED INCLUDES JUST EXERCISING AN OPTION OR SELLING AN OPTION WHICH MAY BE LATER EXERCISED AFTER THEY SATISFY THAT CONDITION. OKAY. AT THIS TIME I'LL ENTERTAIN AN OPTION TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION, TO SUSPEND THE RULES, TO TAKE ACTION. 
          TONIGHT, VICE MAYOR HILL. SO MOVED COUNCILMAN WESTBROOK SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION CARRIES. NEXT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THE TEXT. AMENDED AMENDMENT TO APPROVE DATA CENTERS IN THE CITY OF PETERSBURG. PER MISS SAPP MASTER PLAN AND OUR DIRECTOR'S REQUEST. COUNCILMAN WESTBROOK, I MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT THE MOTION. ALL RIGHT, VICE MAYOR HILL, I SECOND. THAT. GET THAT ALREADY. WE HAD WE HAD THE PUBLIC HEARING IN NOVEMBER AND THEN TABLED IT TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION. IT WOULD PROBABLY BE HELPFUL TO HAVE THE TEXT IN FRONT OF YOU. WE CAN HAVE THAT FOR YOU AT YOUR NEXT MEETING. I THINK THE OPTION AGREEMENT IS SIMPLY AN OPTION TO PURCHASE PROPERTY. IT ISN'T A WE HAVEN'T APPROVED THE ACTUAL SALE OF THE PROPERTY AT THIS POINT IN TIME. SO I THINK, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, CITY ATTORNEY ENTERING INTO THE OPTIONS ALLOWS US TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE WITH THE DUE DILIGENCE THAT THE DEVELOPER NEEDS TO DO ON THIS PROJECT. AND BY THAT POINT IN TIME, WHEN WE BRING THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT BACK FOR SALE, WE'LL HAVE THE ZONING ORDINANCE PIECE APPROVED IN FRONT OF YOU AND AN OPTION FOR APPROVING THAT. OKAY, PERFECT. ALL RIGHT, MISS SIMON, WE DON'T NEED THIS TONIGHT, SO WE'LL RESCIND THAT TONIGHT. AND NEXT WE'LL GO ON TO. I'LL RESCIND MY MOTION OFFICIALLY. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. COUNCILMAN WESTBROOK. AND AT THIS TIME, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR CONSIDERATION OF THE ORDINANCE TO AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE AN OPTION AGREEMENT AND CONVEY PROPERTY UPON SATISFACTION OF TERMS. VICE MAYOR HILL SO MOVED. COUNCILMAN WESTBROOK. SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION. AND SECOND, MISS HILL, COULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL COUNCIL MEMBER. CUTHBERT. COUNCIL MEMBER. JONES. AYE. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER. MYERS. COUNCIL MEMBER. WESTBROOK. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER. LEE. AYE. VICE MAYOR. 
          [5. Special Reports (Part 2 of 2) ]
HILL. AYE. MAYOR I SO THAT MOTION CARRIES. ALL RIGHT. NEXT WE HAVE ITEM B, WHICH IS PETERSBURG COMMUNITY FOREST REVITALIZATION PROGRAM REVIEW FROM THE GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE CENTER. 
          HELLO, CITY COUNCIL, THANK YOU FOR HAVING US TODAY. WE'RE WITH THE GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE CENTER. 
          I'M JESSICA HUANG. OH, THANK YOU FOR THE CLICKER. MAYBE. NEVER MIND. JUST SAY NEXT SLIDE. I WILL LET YOU KNOW. ALL RIGHT. I'M JESSICA HUANG AND THIS IS KENDALL TOPPINGS. AND WE HAVE BEEN THE TWO PEOPLE IN CHARGE OF THE COMMUNITY FOREST REVITALIZATION PROGRAM. AND WE'RE GOING TO GIVE A LITTLE REVIEW TODAY. NEXT. SO FIRST OFF, THANKS TO OUR FUNDERS THROUGH THE USDA FOREST SERVICE, THROUGH THE INFLATION REDUCTION ACT AND THE VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF FORESTRY FOR MAKING THIS PROGRAM POSSIBLE. NEXT. FOR OUR OUTLINE, WE'RE GOING TO GO OVER THE PROGRAM REVIEW TREE CANOPY ANALYSIS. GO OVER SOME OF THE MAPS THAT WE'VE BEEN CREATING, THE OUTREACH THAT HAS HAPPENED SO FAR, SOME EVENTS WE'VE GONE TO TALKING ABOUT THE PROJECTS AND THE STRATEGIC TREE CANOPY PLAN THAT'S GOING TO BE CREATED AS A RESULT OF THIS. AND THEN FINALLY THE NEXT STEPS FOR PHASE TWO, WHICH IS IMPLEMENTATION NEXT. SO FOR THE PROGRAM REVIEW, THE CITY OF PETERSBURG. PETERSBURG OFFICIALLY LAUNCHED THE COMMUNITY FOREST REVITALIZATION PROGRAM WITH THE GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE CENTER IN JANUARY OF 2024. SO A YEAR AGO AND SINCE THEN, WE'VE HOSTED NINE WORKSHOPS WITH THE CITY STAFF AND COMMUNITY PARTNERS. 
          WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS KIND OF ON A MONTHLY BASIS. WE POSTED AN OPEN HOUSE HERE AT THE LIBRARY. 
          WE'VE GATHERED INPUT FROM OVER 100 CITIZENS. WE'VE PARTICIPATED IN OUTREACH EVENTS THROUGH VARIOUS PARTNERS, AND PROVIDED TREE STEWARDSHIP TRAINING TO CITY STAFF AS WELL. AND SO FOR THE CANOPY ANALYSIS, WE'RE JUST GOING TO BRIEFLY COVER A FEW OF THE MAPS THAT HAVE BEEN CREATED. 
          THERE'S BEEN A LOT MORE DATA AND OTHER TOOLS PROVIDED AS WELL THROUGH THIS PROCESS THIS PAST YEAR, BUT HERE IS A LITTLE RECAP. SO FIRST OFF IS THE TREE CANOPY COVERAGE. SO PETERSBURG HAS 45% OF TREE CANOPY COVERAGE THROUGHOUT THE CITY. AND THAT INCLUDES THE PETERSBURG NATIONAL 
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BATTLEFIELD WHICH IS A LARGE PERCENTAGE OF THAT AS WELL. EXCUSE ME. CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT THAT MEANS? YEAH. SO WE LOOKED AT THE OVERALL LAND COVER OF THE CITY, AND WE ARE DETERMINING THAT, LIKE THROUGHOUT THE CITY, YOU HAVE A TREE CANOPY COVERAGE OF 45%. SO THE OTHER PERCENTAGES MIGHT BE IMPERVIOUS SURFACES. PERVIOUS SURFACES LIKE TURF AND GRASS THAT SORT OF THING. 
          WATERWAYS, WETLANDS, THAT SORT OF THING. SO DIFFERENT TYPES OF LAND COVER THROUGHOUT YOUR CITY, AND WE'RE COUNTING TREE CANOPY OVER IMPERVIOUS SURFACES. WE'RE COUNTING BIG FORESTS. WE'RE COUNTING THE TREES IN THE PARKING LOT OUT BACK, THAT SORT OF THING. SO LOOKING AT A BIG, BROAD VIEW, THAT'S WHAT YOUR CITY LOOKS LIKE. GREAT. IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, LET ME KNOW. SO THROUGH THIS ANALYSIS WE'VE ALSO BROKEN IT DOWN. SO LOOKING AT THAT OVERALL TREE CANOPY WE'VE BROKEN IT UP THROUGH NEIGHBORHOODS. SO YOU CAN TELL THE DISTRIBUTION ACROSS THE CITY ISN'T THE SAME. AND THE HIGHEST TO LOWEST NEIGHBORHOOD DIFFERENCE IS 76%. SO YOU CAN TELL THAT SOME AREAS HAVE A LOT LOWER TREE CANOPY THAN OTHERS. NEXT, WE'VE ALSO BEEN FACTORING IN THINGS LIKE SURFACE TEMPERATURE. SO HEAT TREE CANOPY HAS A DIRECT CORRELATION WITH SURFACE TEMPERATURE. SO CANOPY NEIGHBORHOODS WITH MORE TREE CANOPY COVERAGE ARE COOLER. 
          CANOPY NEIGHBORHOODS WITH LESS TREE CANOPY WEIGHT WITH MORE TREE CANOPY COVER IS COOLER AND WITH LESS TREE CANOPY COVER IS HOTTER. THERE'S A DIFFERENCE OF 19% THROUGHOUT THE CITY WHEN DEGREES SORRY, 19 DEGREES DIFFERENCE ACROSS THE CITY. WHEN LOOKING AT A SNAPSHOT OF A DAY. 
          SO THAT'S SOMETHING TO NOTE THAT THE TEMPERATURE IS A BIG FACTOR IN PETERSBURG AS WELL. WE'VE ALSO CREATED A MAP OF THE POTENTIAL PLANTING AREA. SO LOOKING AT THAT LAND COVER, WHICH AREAS OF THE CITY ARE CURRENTLY IMPERVIOUS? PLACES THAT COULD HAVE MORE TREES. SO PLACES THAT ARE LIKE GRASS CURRENTLY, THOSE ARE SPACES THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE PLANTED BY TREES. AND WE'RE JUST REPRESENTING THAT ON A MAP TO SHOW WHAT IS POSSIBLE. WE'VE ALSO USED THAT DATA AND KIND OF LAYERED IT ON WITH THE SURFACE TEMPERATURE, THE HEAT AND MEDIAN HOUSEHOLD INCOME TO LOOK AT HEAT AND EQUITY ACROSS PETERSBURG. SO THE AREAS THAT ARE RANKED BY PRIORITY HERE, YOU CAN TELL THE REDDEST AREAS HAVE THE HIGHEST SURFACE TEMPERATURES. THEY ARE THE HOTTEST WITH THE LOWEST INCOME. SO THAT'S DIFFERENT WAYS TO ANALYZE TREE CANOPY ACROSS THE CITY. ONE MORE WAY THAT WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT THIS IS THROUGH LOOKING AT STORMWATER RETENTION AS A FACTOR. SO THE AREAS THAT ARE CURRENTLY CAPTURING STORMWATER AND PROVIDING GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE BENEFITS TO THE CITY ARE SEEN HERE. SO SOME OF THE AREAS THAT ARE DARKER GREEN HAVE THE BETTER DRAINING SOILS AND ARE DOING A LOT FOR YOUR CITY IN TERMS OF CAPTURING AND ABSORBING 56 MILLION GALLONS OF STORMWATER PER TEN YEAR, 24 HOUR STORM EVENT. SO OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS, FROM 2021 TO 2023, THE CITY HAS LOST 342 ACRES OF TREES. AND THAT IS MEANS OVER 1.6 MILLION MORE GALLONS OF STORMWATER RUNOFF THAT THE CITY IS NOW HAVING TO MANAGE. SO THOSE ARE SOME METRICS FOR YOU FOR THE TREE CANOPY ANALYSIS. SO PAIRED WITH THIS DATA, WE DECIDED TO REACH OUT AND SHARE IT WITH THE COMMUNITY DURING SEVERAL EVENTS. OUR FIRST ONE WAS OPEN HOUSE, WHICH COUNCILMAN JONES ATTENDED. THANK YOU. NEXT SLIDE. WE HAD SEVERAL PARTNERS THERE, AND MAINLY WHAT WE DID IS SHARE THESE MAPS WITH THE COMMUNITY TO GET THEIR INPUT. WHAT IS THEIR OPINION ON TREES? WHAT ARE THEIR CONCERNS? WHAT BENEFITS DO THEY WANT TO SEE AS WELL AS THE TREE GIVEAWAY AND ASK THEM FOR INPUT ON WHERE THEY'D LIKE TO SEE MORE. WE ALSO WENT TO THE TRUNK OR TREAT CANDY FOR YOUR THOUGHTS. WE ASKED FAMILIES WHERE THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE TREES IN PETERSBURG. OVER HALF OF THEM SAID PARKS, 
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OTHER HALF SAID SCHOOLS. SO THOSE ARE IMPORTANT AREAS. AND THEN, OF COURSE, OVER 1000 PIECES OF CANDY WERE GIVEN AS A THANK YOU FOR YOUR OPINIONS. NEXT, WE ALSO PARTNERED WITH VSU. IT SAYS 40 TREES, BUT VSU HELPED GIVE AWAY OVER 80 TREES TO THE PETERSBURG CITIZENS, AND THE PRICE OF A TREE WAS JUST AGAIN GIVING THEIR INPUT ON THE CONCERNS AND DESIRES FOR THE GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE OF THE CITY. WHAT DO YOU WANT YOUR CITY TO LOOK LIKE? WHAT BENEFITS DO YOU WANT TO GET FROM IT? WE'VE ALSO DONE SEVERAL PROJECTS. FOR EXAMPLE, WE DID A TREE ASSESSMENT INVENTORY. WE ASSESSED OVER 219 TREES. THEY WERE ASSESSED BY A CERTIFIED TREE RISK ASSESSMENT QUALIFICATION JUST FOR TO THINK ABOUT IT, THAT PLAN WOULD HAVE BEEN WORTH OVER $3,000, BUT WE PROVIDED IT FREE OF COST. AND THAT BASICALLY TELLS YOU WHAT YOU NEED TO REMOVE, WHAT YOU NEED TO PLANT, AND THE CARE NEEDS TO KEEP THAT PARK BEAUTIFUL. WE ALSO HELPED WITH FARMER STREET PARK. JESSICA HERE HELPED CREATE THE CONCEPT DESIGN, THE LANDSCAPE PLANNING. WE ARE ALSO THERE TO PLANT THE TREES. WE PARTNERED WITH THEM. 
          WE HAD THE PETERSBURG FIRE DEPARTMENT HELP US OUT, AND WE PLANTED OVER 68 TREES TO HELP REJUVENATE THAT AREA, CREATE MORE SHADE FOR KIDS AND TO BEAUTIFY THAT AREA IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND THEN ALL THIS DATA, THESE OUTREACH EVENTS, THE INPUT WE GAVE FROM THE CITIZENS, WE ARE ALL PUTTING IT INTO A STRATEGIC TREE CANOPY PLAN. THIS WILL HELP GUIDE THE CITY ON HOW TO DEVELOP WHILE KEEPING THE CITY BEAUTIFUL, GREEN AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, HEALTHY. SO IT WILL INCLUDE ALL THESE MAPS, OUR TREE CANOPY ANALYSIS WITH THE DATA INCLUDING ALL THE BENEFITS. IT WILL ALSO INCLUDE ALL THE GOALS AND STRATEGIES AND ACTION ITEMS WE RECOMMEND TO THE CITY TO TAKE. SO WE DEVELOPED THESE GOALS AND STRATEGIES BY WORKING WITH THE COMMITTEE. IT CONSISTED OF CITY STAFF AS WELL AS COMMUNITY PARTNERS, SO LOCALS IN THE GROUP. IT INCLUDED WORKSHOPS, COMMUNITY INPUT AND ALL THE DATA. AND WE CAME UP WITH THE FOLLOWING GOALS. NEXT. 
          ALL RIGHT, SO WHAT THE CITY STAFF AND THE COMMUNITY HAVE DECIDED IS A PRIORITY FOR THE CITYWIDE TREE CANOPY GOAL IS TO SIMPLY MAINTAIN THE CURRENT TREE CANOPY AT 45% OVER THE NEXT TEN YEARS. WHAT THAT SIMPLY MEANS IS FOR EACH TREE AREA REMOVED, YOU REPLACE AND MAYBE IN A DIFFERENT AREA IN ORDER TO ASSUME THE CITY STAYS GREEN WHILE ACCEPTING DEVELOPMENT. AND THAT IS THE GOAL WE PROPOSE. THAT'S THE TARGET AREA. OUR FIRST GOAL THAT THE CITY STAFF AND THE COMMUNITY HAS DECIDED WAS IMPORTANT, IS TO STEWARD PETERSBURG PUBLIC TREES TO MAKE SURE THEY STAY HEALTHY, MAKE SURE THE CITY IS PROVIDING A GOOD EXAMPLE OF WHAT TREES AND LANDSCAPE SHOULD LOOK LIKE. KEEP IT HEALTHY. SO ONE OF OUR FIRST SUGGESTIONS IS HIRING A CITY ARBORIST. CITY STAFF HAVE CURRENTLY APPLIED FOR A GRANT TO HIRE AN ARBORIST, AND THIS WILL GIVE YOU GUYS A GOOD BACKBONE OF WHAT IS NEEDED TO MAINTAIN YOUR LAND. THIS ALSO INCLUDES INCREASING CITY CAPACITY, HELPING FUND MORE PUBLIC WORKS PROJECTS TO HELP THEM KEEP ON THE RIGHT TRACK, AND MAINTAINING AND BEAUTIFYING OUR AREA, AS WELL AS THE PROPER TRAINING. TAKING ADVANTAGE OF FREE TRAINING OPPORTUNITIES TO NOT ONLY EXCEL EXCEPT WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT WITH YOUR STAFF, BUT ALSO TO MAKE SURE IT'S TAKEN CARE OF. RIGHT. AND THEN OF COURSE, ABIDE BY THE RIGHT TREE, RIGHT PLACE. SO YOU'RE NOT PLANTING A GIANT OAK UNDERNEATH A POWER LINE, HELPING EDUCATE ON THOSE STATUS. AND THEN, OF COURSE, EVENTUALLY THE PLAN IS PETERSBURG GROVES IS TO CREATE AN URBAN FORESTRY DIVISION IN PUBLIC WORKS TO HELP TAKE CARE OF THOSE ISSUES. THAT IS GOAL ONE. NEXT. ALL RIGHT. GOAL TWO. WE FOUND IT IMPORTANT TO EXPAND COMMUNITY KNOWLEDGE ON THE IMPORTANCE OF TREES AND PROPER CARE. SO THE FIRST GOAL IS TO ESTABLISH PETERSBURG AS A TREE CITY USA. IT IS A NATIONWIDE PROGRAM. THERE IS OVER 20 CITIES IN VIRGINIA CERTIFIED. IT SIMPLY MEANS YOU PUT IN SOME EFFORT, MORE EFFORT INTO YOUR TREES. RECORDING THE BUDGET, HAVING A COMMITTEE DEDICATED TO IT. WE ARE CURRENTLY GUIDING THE CITY IN THAT PROCESS NOW PUBLICIZING TREE RESOURCES. SO WHEN CITIZENS COME ASKING FOR A QUESTION HOW TO TAKE CARE OF A TREE, WHO DO I REACH OUT TO? WHAT IF I WANT TO PLANT A TREE? THERE'S ACTUALLY RESOURCES THAT WE CAN CREATE AVAILABLE FOR THE PUBLIC TO REACH OUT AND LEARN THESE THINGS, AS WELL AS EXPANDING COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT IN TREE STEWARDSHIP. WE FOUND FROM OUR OUTREACH EVENTS, THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE INTERESTED IN THESE ACTION ITEMS TO GET INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY. THE QUESTION IS HOW AND THE CITY CAN HELP PROVIDE THEM THE TOOLS FOR THAT SO WE CAN HELP EACH OTHER. AND ONE OF THOSE MAIN EFFORTS IS THERE IS A HUGE EMPHASIS ON YOUTH, YOUTH WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT, YOUTH EDUCATION. THEY ARE GOING TO BE THE FUTURE STEWARDS OF PETERSBURG. LET'S 
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ASSIST THEM IN LEARNING HOW TO PROPERLY DO IT. THE NEXT GOAL IS TO INCREASE THE PRESERVATION OF LARGE TREES BEFORE AND DURING DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS. THIS ISN'T SAYING NO DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS, IT'S SAYING SMART DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS. SO WE'RE ABLE TO CONSERVE WHILE GROWING. SO PROVIDING INCENTIVES RATHER THAN RESTRICTIONS FOR DEVELOPERS SUCH AS STORMWATER UTILITY FEE CREDITS, HEIGHT BONUSES, TELLING THEM THE CREDITS THAT TREES INCREASE PROPERTY VALUES, ETC. 
          ALSO, SOME REQUIREMENTS HAVE TO BE PLACED, SUCH AS REQUESTING THE DEVELOPER TO MEET WITH THE CITY ARBORIST TO TALK ABOUT THE VALUE, WHERE TO CONSERVE, WHAT ARE THE HIGHER VALUE TREES? THE HIGHER ECOSYSTEM VALUES PRESERVE THAT AREA AND MAYBE BUILD OVER HERE INSTEAD, WHILE ALSO INCREASING STAFF CAPACITY TO STRENGTHEN TREE PROTECTION. THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT IS AMAZING. 
          THEY ALSO COULD NEED SOME HELP HELPING WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT, HELPING SUPPORT CITY STAFF THE BEST WAY POSSIBLE, AND THEN EVENTUALLY THE GOAL. LONG TERM, NOT IMMEDIATE, WOULD BE TO EXPAND PROTECTION REQUIREMENTS IN TWO IN THE CHESAPEAKE BAY WATERSHED, EXPAND THOSE PROTECTIONS TO THE ENTIRE CITY. THAT IS A LONG TERM GOAL. NEXT, ANOTHER HUGE PRIORITY THAT THE COMMUNITY SHOWED WAS ALONG TRANSPORTATION ROUTES, PEDESTRIAN ROUTES MAKING THE CITY MORE WALKABLE, MORE EQUITABLE, MORE BEAUTIFUL. WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING IN ALONG THESE TRANSPORTATION CORRIDORS. SO A GOAL SHOULD BE TO PLANT, BEAUTIFY AND SHADE THESE AREAS, SUCH AS EAST WASHINGTON STREET. SO BEAUTIFYING THESE ENTRYWAYS IS ONE OF THE GOALS TO WELCOME VISITORS TO PETERSBURG WITH A BANG. SHOW THEM THE BEAUTY OF PETERSBURG, AS WELL AS IMPROVING WALKABILITY OF PEDESTRIAN ROUTES NOT ONLY FOR TO SCHOOLS FOR CHILDREN WHO WALK TO SCHOOLS HELP SHADE THOSE ROUTES WHEN IT GETS HOT ALONG THE ROUTES TO CHURCHES. AND THEN, OF COURSE, BUSINESS DISTRICTS. WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO GO DOWNTOWN BY KEEPING IT BEAUTIFUL AND SHADED. LET'S WORK ON DOING THAT TOGETHER NEXT. AND THEN GOAL FIVE. PROBABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT IS TO EXPAND BENEFITS ACROSS PETERSBURG EQUITABLY. AS YOU SAW FROM THE CANOPY MAP, TREE CANOPY IS NOT DISTRIBUTED EQUITABLY, EQUITABLY THROUGHOUT PETERSBURG. THERE ARE SOME AREAS THAT ARE INTENSELY HOT AND UNSHADED, WHILE OTHERS HAVE DENSE FOREST. WE SHOULD EXPAND THESE BENEFITS SO EVERYONE IS GETTING THE BETTER AIR QUALITY. THEY ARE GETTING LESS FLOODING. 
          THEY ARE GETTING COOLER TEMPERATURES IN THE BEAUTY. USE THOSE HEAT MAPS TO PRIORITIZE WHERE THE NEED FOR SHADE IS THE GREATEST PLANT FOOD, FORESTS AND COMMUNITY SPACES HELP PROVIDING EDUCATION FOOD, REDUCING FOOD DESERTS WHILE CREATING THAT CANOPY. THERE CAN BE MULTIPLE OBJECTIVES TO THESE PLANTINGS AND THEN OF COURSE IN ENCOURAGE CITIZENS TO PLANT THEIR OWN TREES WITH THE PROPER TOOLS AND INFORMATION. NEXT. OKAY, SO MOVING ON FROM THERE, WE'RE GOING TO BE MOVING INTO PHASE TWO. SO IMPLEMENTATION WE'RE SELECTING THIS PROGRAM AREA BASED OFF OF THE HIGHEST NEED AND INTEREST. SO WE'VE BEEN ASKING THE PUBLIC ABOUT WHO WOULD LIKE TO BE INVOLVED IN THIS. WHICH AREAS OF THE WHICH NEIGHBORHOODS NEED THE MOST TREES. WE'D WANT TO HAVE THIS PROGRAM SUPPORT AND BEEN LOOKING AT THE DATA AROUND THE CURRENT TREE CANOPY, AROUND HEAT AND EQUITY. SO BASED OFF OF THAT, WE'VE DETERMI AREA YOU SEE ABOVE. NEXT. SO GIS, THE GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE CENTER WILL BE WORKING WITH COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO DEVELOP A COMMUNITY DRIVEN TREE PLANTING AND GREENING PROJECTS. SO THIS PHASE INCLUDES SOME WORKSHOPS AND EDUCATIONAL TREE SEMINARS AND A TREE RELATED PROJECT. SO WE'RE GOING TO BE ASKING THE COMMUNITIES WE HAVEN'T PREDETERMINED ANY OF THESE PROJECTS, BUT THINGS THAT THESE PROJECTS MUST INCLUDE IS JUST PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE SITE A COMMUNITY STEWARDSHIP APPROACH TREE EDUCATION AND OUTREACH AND POTENTIALLY TREE GIVEAWAYS. SO THIS IS KIND OF SURROUNDING THIS IMPLEMENTATION PHASE. AND THEN JUST NEXT STEPS, WE'D LIKE YOU ALL THE CITY COUNCIL TO REVIEW AND APPROVE THE PROPOSED STRATEGIC TREE CANOPY GOALS AND STRATEGIES THAT HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED. WE CAN GIVE YOU SOME TIME TO REVIEW THOSE, AND WE'LL BE COMPLETING THIS STRATEGIC TREE CANOPY PLAN THAT ROUNDS OUT THE CITYWIDE APPROACH TO THE NEXT STEPS. AND THEN WE'LL START BEGINNING THE OUTREACH FOR PHASE TWO. THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THIS PROGRAM AREA. SO YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST, FOLKS. THIS WILL BE UP AND COMING. SO WE'LL START 
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SHARING IT ON SOCIAL MEDIA. AND PLEASE TELL YOUR FRIENDS. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS PLEASE LET US KNOW. PERFECT. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION. AND IT WAS INTERESTING TO SEE. I THINK WHEN YOU THE HOTSPOT MAP I THINK IS, IS IT IN IN WARDS FOUR, FIVE AND SIX I BELIEVE ARE THE HOTSPOTS THAT WE HAVE. AND I'M AND I KNOW I'M WINDING BACK. YEAH, YEAH. 
          ISN'T THAT THAT'S THAT'S THOSE HOTSPOTS. THERE'S IS THAT 4 OR 5 AND SIX. AND THEN IS THAT DOWN WASHINGTON STREET WHERE. WHERE COUNCILMAN JONES. THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE ABOUT TO PLANT SOMETHING. 
          RIGHT. WE CAN GIVE YOU. YEAH. RIGHT. YEAH. THE CITY HAS ACCESS TO ALL THESE MAPS. SO THESE ONES ARE KIND OF BLOWN UP TO POWERPOINT MODE, BUT YOU CAN ZOOM IN AS MUCH AS YOU CAN FOR ALL OF THIS AS WELL. AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO PROVIDE ALL THE GIS DATA FOR THE CITY AS WELL. SO OKAY. WONDERFUL. NEXT I'LL GO TO COUNCILMAN JONES. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU LADIES. HOW Y'ALL DOING? HELLO. SO TREES, A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND OR APPRECIATE THE LIFE THAT THESE TREES AND OUR CITY GIVES US. 45% OF CANOPY COVERAGE. THAT'S THE BENCHMARK NATIONALLY, AM I CORRECT? IT DEPENDS ON THE AREA OF THE CITY AS WELL AS THE ECOSYSTEM. FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU'RE IN ARIZONA, 45% IS PROBABLY NOT POSSIBLE. BUT HERE GENERALLY ON THE EAST COAST, IT'S IN THAT AREA. YES, IN THAT AREA. SO THIS PROGRAM THAT WE'RE DOING IS LINES UP WITH WHAT WE WANT. STORM WATER MANAGEMENT. YES. TEMPERATURE CONTROL. YEP. AND AIR QUALITY. THERE YOU GO. 
          AND I THINK ONE OF YOUR GOALS WE COULD EASILY DO THAT EARLY ON. THAT'S EXPANDED PROTECTION REQUIREMENTS. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO UP HERE EARLY. THE TREE FOREST. THE FOOD FOREST. WE SAID BEFORE PLANTING FRUIT TREES AT EVERY PARK THAT WE HAVE, I BELIEVE EVERY SCHOOL IN THE CITY SHOULD HAVE A FRUIT TREE. EVERY CHURCH AND EVEN CITY PROPERTY SHOULD HAVE SOME KIND OF FRUIT TREE ON THAT PROPERTY. WHY? BECAUSE WE HEAR ALL THE TIME AS A FOOD DESERT. WE GOT HOMELESS PEOPLE WHO'S HUNGRY. SOMETIMES WE GET HUNGRY AND DON'T HAVE THE MONEY FOR IT. BUT WHEN THE EMERGENCY COME UP, THERE'S FOOD EVERYWHERE AND YOU CAN PUT IT ON THIS MAP. YOU KNOW, I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU, BUT I WANT TO ASK, HOW CLOSE ARE WE TO GETTING THAT PROJECT DONE ON EAST WASHINGTON STREET? FOR ANYBODY THAT DON'T KNOW EAST WASHINGTON STREET, WE'RE BEAUTIFYING, NOT JUST BEAUTIFYING THAT CORRIDOR. WE'RE PUTTING TREES DOWN THE MEDIUM. 
          YOU'RE GOING TO LOOK LIKE YOU'RE IN CALIFORNIA SOMEWHERE WHEN WE'RE DONE, MAN. AND WE'RE BLOCKING THE TRAIN TRACKS AND ALL OF THAT GOOD STUFF WITH TREES. SO IT'S NOT JUST BEAUTIFYING, BUT IT'S INCREASING AND COOLING OFF THAT AREA WHERE THE LANDFILL IS AT, AM I CORRECT? CORRECT WITH THAT. SO YEAH, WE HAVE RECEIVED A GRANT FOR EAST WASHINGTON STREET THAT NEEDS TO BE UTILIZED WITHIN THIS CALENDAR YEAR. SO THROUGH 2025 THAT GRANT WAS AROUND 350,000, MAYBE UP TO 335,000. THE PROJECT ITSELF IS ESTIMATED AT AROUND 800,000. SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO WITH THE GRANT THAT WE'VE RECEIVED FOR THAT CORRIDOR IS DO AN INITIAL SURVEY STUDY AND IMPLEMENT A PILOT PROJECT LIGHTLY, LIKELY AT THE GATEWAY OF PETERSBURG. BUT WE DEFINITELY WANT TO SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING BASED ON COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND FEEDBACK THAT MIGHT SHIFT WHERE THAT IMPLEMENTATION WOULD GO. I KNOW SARAH, MELISSA WOULD ASK. I HAVEN'T RESPONDED YET. 
          SENT ME ANOTHER POTENTIAL GRANT TO POTENTIALLY ADD MORE FUNDING TO THAT PROJECT. SO WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THAT OPPORTUNITY AS WELL. SO WE ARE LOOKING AT THE CORRIDOR. SOMETHING WILL BE IMPLEMENTED THIS CALENDAR YEAR AND THAT'S WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW. SO BASICALLY I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT THIS. SO WE WILL HAVE TREES GOING IN THE GROUND DOWN THERE BY THESE BEFORE DECEMBER. YES OF THIS YEAR. ONE MORE THING I WANT TO ASK YOU GUYS ABOUT. WE TALK ABOUT THE ARBORIST. SO I'M NOT GOING TO SAY IF WE HIRE AN ARBORIST, BUT WHEN WE HIRE ONE. I WANT YOU TALKED ABOUT DEVELOPMENT AND WE GOT A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT GOING ON IN THE CITY. SOME OF IT INCLUDES KNOCKING DOWN, TEARING DOWN TREES AND CUTTING THEM UP. SOME OF THOSE TREES COULD BE SAVED. DO WE HAVE ANY RECOMMENDATION ON RELOCATING THE TREES VERSUS DIGGING THEM UP AND SHREDDING THEM INTO MULCH AND STUFF LIKE THAT? SO UNFORTUNATELY, TREE ROOTS GO OUT. THEY DON'T REALLY GO DOWN. SO IF YOU BUILD WITHIN IT A TREE, OFTENTIMES YOU'RE DESTROYING THE ROOT SYSTEM. SO TRANSPLANTING IS PROBABLY NOT THE BEST WAY TO GO. IT'S JUST 
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NOT FINANCIALLY FEASIBLE. WHAT IS BEST ONCE WE GET AN ARBORIST? I CAN ALSO HELP ADVISE ON THIS. 
          UNTIL AN ARBORIST IS THERE, IT'S BEST TO SELECT LARGE SWATHS OF FOREST WITHIN A DEVELOPMENT FOOTPRINT TO PRESERVE AND THEN BUILD IN A CONCENTRATED AREA SO LARGER SWATHS OF FOREST, HEALTHIER SOIL. THAT MEANS MORE STORM WATER, MORE BENEFITS. TREES LIKE TO FLOCK TOGETHER. 
          IT'S WHERE THEY GET THE BEST. SO IT'S BASICALLY A LOT OF IT IS, FIRST OF ALL, REQUIRING PROTECTION OF THE TREES YOU'VE DECIDED TO PROTECT. NO DRIVING ON THEM, NO CUTTING THE ROOTS, SELECTING THE AREAS PRIORITIZED FOR CONSERVATION WHILE ALLOWING DEVELOPMENT. SO IT'S GOING TO BE A GIVE AND TAKE. IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO TRANSPLANT THOSE TREES, BUT IT IS POSSIBLE TO SAVE A LARGE AMOUNT OF THEM WHILE ALLOWING BUILDING AND ALSO WHILE PLANTING SOMEWHERE ELSE IN AN AREA AS WELL. SO IT'S GIVE AND TAKE. SO WE SHOULD HAVE A DATABASE FOR DEVELOPMENT WHERE HOW MANY TREES THEY TAKE DOWN. WE WOULD KNOW THAT WE NEED TO PLANT THAT MANY TREES SOMEWHERE ELSE. YEAH. SO HAVING A BUDGET TO TRACK THAT WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THE CITY HAVING THE TREES INVENTORY SO INVENTORIED. SO YOU KNOW WHAT KINDS OF TREES YOU HAVE IN YOUR URBAN CANOPY IS REALLY IMPORTANT. AND YOU CAN KIND OF TELL THROUGH THIS HEAT MAP AS WELL, THOSE LARGE CLUSTERS OF TREES ARE PROVIDING MORE BENEFITS. THEY'RE LIKE LARGER TREES. THEY'RE HEALTHIER TREES. 
          THEY'RE ABLE TO DO A LOT MORE COOLING, A LOT MORE STORMWATER RETENTION. SO BEING ABLE TO PRESERVE THOSE IN THE FIRST PLACE WILL HELP A LOT WITH LIKE THOSE BENEFITS. WE HAVE ALSO PROVIDED A TREE BUDGET CALCULATOR THAT HAS BEEN GIVEN TO THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT. IT HELPS CALCULATE HOW MANY ACRES OF TREES LOST, HOW MANY NEED TO BE REPLACED BACK. SO YOU GUYS, WE HAVE PROVIDED THE TOOLS WITH THAT INFORMATION SO YOU GUYS CAN HELP FIGURE IT OUT. BUT AGAIN WE'RE HAPPY TO HELP ADVISE ON SOME OF THOSE DEVELOPMENT UNTIL AN URBAN FORESTER COMES IN. THEN THEY'LL BE THE ONES TO SURVEY THE DEVELOPMENT AREA. FIND THE AREA OF MOST IMPORTANT TREES. 
          FOR EXAMPLE, IF IT'S HALF PINE, HALF OAK, LET'S PRESERVE THE OAKS. SORRY, PINES, YOU CAN GO. 
          SO VICE VERSA WE CAN HELP. SO THIS PROTECTION REQUIREMENTS. CAN YOU TELL EVERYBODY ABOUT THE PROTECTION REQUIREMENTS THAT WE CAN EXPAND. TELL US WHAT WAS NECESSARY, WHAT WAS NEEDED TO EXPAND THAT? WELL, THE GOOD NEWS IS, IS GIC HAS CREATED AND WRITTEN A RECOMMENDED UPDATED TREE ORDINANCE THAT WILL HELP PROTECT AND UPDATE REQUIREMENTS. IT IS IN THE PROCESS OF BEING EDITED AND REVIEWED, BUT ONCE IT'S FINISHED, YOU GUYS CAN REVIEW IT AND APPROVE IT. AND THAT WOULD BE A GREAT FIRST STEP. ANYTHING TO SPEAK ON THAT? NOPE. ALL RIGHT. WE CAN GET A COPY OF THAT OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL I GOT, MR. MAYOR. ALL RIGHT, VICE MAYOR HILL, I GUESS THIS RIGHT HERE GOES TO THE CITY MANAGER. AND I DON'T KNOW IF COUNCILMAN COOPER IS GOING TO ASK THIS, BUT BETWEEN WASHINGTON AND WOLFE STREET, THOSE TREES THAT WE TOOK UP IS THE PLAN FOR US TO PUT PLANTERS DOWN THERE OR SOMETHING? BECAUSE IT LOOKS SO BARE. AND WE ADDRESSED THIS EARLIER. I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY MOVEMENT. SO WHAT ARE WE DOING? IT LOOKS BARE. SO WHEN WE TOOK THE TREES OUT, WE HAD COMPLAINTS FROM THE PROPERTY OWNERS AND WE'VE HAD CONTINUED COMMENT FROM THE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT THEY'RE NOT INTERESTED IN HAVING THE TREES REPLACED BECAUSE THE TREES THAT WERE THERE HAD DAMAGED THEIR BUILDINGS. SO IF WE WERE GOING TO LOOK TO DO SOME REPLACEMENT, WE HAVE TO MAYBE DO SOME BUMP OUTS, MOVE THE CURB OUT A LITTLE, A LITTLE BIT IN A PLACE TO PROVIDE SOME ADDITIONAL DISTANCE BETWEEN THE BUILDING. PLUS MAKE SURE THAT WE PUT IN STREETSCAPE SCAPE APPROPRIATE TREES THAT HAVE A CANOPY THAT KIND OF GOES UP, NOT OUT AS MUCH. WE HAD SOME, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, THERE WERE SOME OAKS IN THERE AND THEY WERE GROWING. 
          THEY GREW INTO THE BUILDING AND THEY WERE SCRAPING THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING, DAMAGING WINDOWS ON THE UPPER STORIES. SO AT THIS POINT, THE FEEDBACK WE'VE RECEIVED FROM THE PROPERTY OWNERS HAS BEEN THEY'RE NOT INTERESTED IN HAVING THE TREES REPLACED, BUT IF WE WERE TO DO SOMETHING IN THE FUTURE, WE WOULD NEED TO DO SOMETHING TO ACCOMMODATE KEEPING THE TREES AWAY FROM THE BUILDINGS. SO. SO, YOU KNOW, DOWN IN OLD TOWN, WE HAVE. CERTAIN AREAS. WE HAVE THE FLOWER PLANTS THAT WE CAN JUST PUT FLOWERS THERE AND THEN WE DON'T HAVE TO GO IN THE GROUND AND ALL OF THAT. SO I THINK THAT SHOULD BE A SUGGESTION, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT JUST LOOKS SO BARE AND EMPTY. YEAH. DO SOMETHING. WE DON'T HAVE TO GO IN THE GROUND AND PLANT, YOU KNOW, A TREE THAT WE CAN JUST DO, YOU KNOW, REAL NICE FLOWER BECAUSE WE ALREADY GOT THE SPACE RIGHT THERE. SO PLEASE CONSIDER THAT. YES. THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, COUNCILMAN COOPER. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. TWO QUESTIONS. ONE, DEALING WITH GETTING. DOWNTOWN AND QUALITY OF LIFE 
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THAT WE CAN'T THEY CAN'T THEY CAN'T HEAR YOU TALKING. YOUR MI, YOUR. BUT YOU WEREN'T PUSHING THE BUTTON. I'M SORRY. THAT'S OKAY. I CAN HEAR YOU. FINE. IT TOOK US A WEEK TO CUT ALL THE TREES DOWN BETWEEN WASHINGTON WITH. AND WE WERE TOLD THAT THEY WOULD BE REPLACED. 15 MONTHS HAVE PASSED AND THEY STILL HAVEN'T BEEN REPLACED. MR. ALTMAN, HOW MANY OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE PROTESTED PUTTING THE TREES BACK? WE HAD THE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT HAVE COME OUT OR ARE THE ONES THAT WERE AFFECTED. INITIALLY THERE WERE 3 OR 4 ALONG THE CORRIDOR RIGHT IN THERE THAT HAD SOME DAMAGE EXPERIENCE FROM THE TREES. THEY WERE ON THE EAST SIDE OF SYCAMORE, NOT ON THE WEST SIDE. WE HAVE WE CAME WE HAD A PLAN DESIGNED, DEVELOPED THAT WOULD HAVE BUMP OUTS THAT YOU COULD PLANT TREES IN, BUT YOU'D LOSE A LITTLE BIT OF THE TRAVEL LANE. 
          SO THERE'S WAYS TO ACCOMMODATE IT TO ADDRESS BOTH ISSUES, IF YOU WILL MAKE SURE THAT THE TREES ARE FAR ENOUGH AWAY FROM THE BUILDINGS TO LIMIT DAMAGE, BUT ALSO REPLACE THE TREES ALONG THE CORRIDOR, WE WOULD JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO CONTINUE WANTING, WANTING TO DO. WE CAN BRING THAT PLAN BACK TO COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION, TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT PROJECT. WELL, ARE WE GOING TO DO THAT OR ARE WE NOT GOING TO DO THAT? I'M I'M IN KIND OF NO MAN'S LAND HERE. I DON'T UNDERSTAND I THINK THE QUESTION IS, IS DOES COUNCIL WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH REPLACING THE TREES OR NOT? IF COUNCIL DOES, THEN WE'LL BRING THE PLAN, BRING BACK THE PLAN FOR APPROVAL AND THEN WE CAN MOVE FORWARD. WELL WHEN ARE WE GOING TO DISCUSS THAT? TO DETERMINE COUNCIL'S DESIRE. WE CAN DISCUSS IT AT YOUR FEBRUARY WORK SESSION. OKAY. WORK SESSION TOPIC. DO YOU MIND PUTTING THAT ON THE AGENDA FOR THE FEBRUARY 1ST WORKS OR SORRY, THE FEBRUARY WORK SESSION? NOT AT ALL. OKAY, WELL, THAT'D BE GREAT. NOW, ALSO, MR. ALTMAN, I HEARD TALK ABOUT WE'VE GOT A $350,000 GRANT AND IT MUST BE SPENT BEFORE JULY 1ST OF 2025, AND WE'RE GOING TO SPEND IT ALL ON A PLAN. NO, I THINK THE FUNDING IS TO WE'RE GOING TO DEVELOP THE PLAN, BUT IT'S TO PUT PART OF IT'S GOING TO PUT TREES IN THE GROUND. SO WE HAVE A PLAN. THE WHOLE PLAN TOTAL AMOUNT IS 800,000 IF I REMEMBER WHAT MR. SAID CORRECTLY. SO NOW IT'S HOW DO YOU TAKE THAT PLAN THAT WAS DEVELOPED AND SHRINK AND IMPLEMENT PHASE ONE, IF YOU WILL, OR THE TEST SITE FOR THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE RECEIVED. ISN'T THAT PRETTY EASY? IF IT'S A LET'S SAY IT'S A 300 YARD SPAN OF MEDIAN THAT WE WANT TO PLANT, AND WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO PLANT THE ENTIRE 300 YARDS, MAYBE WE COULD PLANT 75 YARDS. I MEAN, YEAH. SO THERE'S PART OF IT IS GATEWAY IMPROVEMENTS AS YOU COME INTO THE CITY, WHICH AREN'T JUST PLANTING, BUT LOOKING AT HOW HOW YOU VISUALLY ENTER AND EXIT THE CITY, THAT WILL TYPICALLY COST A LITTLE BIT MORE. AND THEN YOU HAVE THE IMPROVEMENTS ON THE STREET TREES. I KNOW THAT THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT'S BEEN WORKING WITH MR. COUNCILMAN JONES ON THIS PROJECT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT'S KIND OF HAPPENING ALONG THAT CORRIDOR IS IN KEEPING WITH WHAT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED. SO IT'S A MATTER OF LIKE YOU SAID, WE'VE GOT X NUMBER OF DOLLARS THAT CAN TAKE US THIS FAR. IT'S A MATTER OF HOW FAR AND TO WHAT LEVEL OF IMPROVEMENTS SHOULD WE WOULD, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE GRANT MONEY AND I DON'T SEE ANY ISSUE WITH US BEING ABLE TO SPEND ALL THAT MONEY WITHIN THIS YEAR, BECAUSE YOU REALLY WANT TO PLANT. REALLY. I MEAN, YOU DON'T WE'RE NOT GOING TO PLANT DURING THE HEAT OF THE SUMMER. WE'D RATHER PLANT GOING INTO THE FALL LIKE WE DID OUT AT FARMERS STREET THIS YEAR, WHICH THAT WAS A GREAT PROJECT. AND WE WERE THERE WHEN THEY WERE PLANTING. THAT WAY THE TREES GET THE BENEFIT OF THE COOLER WEATHER AND THE WET WEATHER THAT COMES IN THE FALL AND THE WINTER TO HELP THEM GET THROUGH THE SUMMER. WELL, AND THE OTHER GOOD TIME TO PLANT IS NOW. SO WHEN DO WE GO GET ROOTS IN THE GROUND USING THAT $350,000? I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER TODAY WHEN THE PROJECT WILL START, BUT WE HAVE THE ENTIRE CALENDAR YEAR TO FINISH SPENDING THE MONEY, WHICH WE WILL SPEND THE DOLLARS WITHIN THE CALENDAR YEAR. WE I, I DON'T KNOW THAT. WELL, WE WILL GET TREES IN THE GROUND BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR TO FULFILL THE GRANT REQUIREMENTS. THE PLAN ALSO DISCUSSES THE STORMWATER ELEMENT. SO THAT'S ALSO WHERE SOME OF THE PRICE AND THE PLANNING IS COMING FROM. THAT'S HELPING RAISE THE COST. SO IT'S NOT JUST A PLANTING PLAN. IT'S ABOUT REARRANGING THE STORMWATER, THE GRAY 
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INFRASTRUCTURE, THE BUILDING ELEMENTS, THE ROAD ITSELF. SO IT'S MUCH MORE COMPLEX BECAUSE IF WE WHEN WE REBUILD THE ENTRANCE, WE DON'T JUST WANT TO MAKE IT PRETTY AND THEN BE FLOODED OUT, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING WORKS PROPERLY. SO THAT'S WHERE A LOT OF THAT MONEY IS GOING. AND THERE STILL WILL BE A DEMO SECTION OF IT BY THE END OF THE YEAR. I'M AFRAID THAT THE WAY THINGS LOOK TODAY IS NOT GOING TO BE A PIECE DIFFERENT FROM THE WAY THINGS LOOK. JULY 1ST OF 2025, AND WE WILL HAVE SPENT $350,000 TO GET NOTHING. WELL, THE FUNDS, THE FUNDS ACTUALLY ARE SPENT IN THE CALENDAR YEAR, NOT THE FISCAL YEAR. SO THEY HAVE TO BE SPENT BY DECEMBER OF 2025, NOT JUNE, JULY OF 2025. WELL, LET'S LET'S GET A BANG FOR THE BUCK. I MEAN, WE CAN SPEND MORE MONEY ON STUDIES, STUDY TO PLANT A TREE $350,000. HELP ME. I MEAN, THIS IS AT SOME POINT AT SOME POINT, YOU KNOW, MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT GETS TO BE SILLY. AND I THINK WE'RE APPROACHING THAT POINT. WHAT WE HAVE, WHAT WE HAVE IN THE CORRIDOR TO DEAL WITH IS WE HAVE STORMWATER ISSUES IN THE CORRIDOR, ALONG WITH THE GAS LINE THAT'S RUNNING RIGHT DOWN THE MEDIAN. SO INITIALLY THE THOUGHT WAS, WELL, WE'LL PLANT TREES IN THE MEDIAN AND THAT'LL TAKE CARE OF THE PROBLEMS. BUT THERE'S A THERE'S A THERE IS A GAS TRANSMISSION LINE DOWN THAT MEDIAN. NOW WE HAVE TO TAKE INTO THAT INTO ACCOUNT. WE ALSO HAVE STORMWATER IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE IN THERE THAT WE NEED TO MAKE TO HELP GET THE STORMWATER OFF. SO THERE'S A COMBINATION OF THINGS. 
          IT JUST ISN'T. WE'RE PLANTING TREES IN THE GROUND. IT'S OTHER IMPROVEMENTS THAT GO ALONG WITH THAT IN THE CORRIDOR TO MAKE IT VIABLE. SO WHILE I WOULD I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, I DON'T THINK WE'RE SPENDING ANOTHER $350,000 TO CREATE A PLAN. WE'RE SPENDING $350,000 TO IMPLEMENT ELEMENTS THAT ARE IN A PLAN THAT'S ALREADY BEEN CREATED. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. GOOD. 
          MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. NEXT. COUNCILMAN JONES. OKAY. YES. I JUST WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR THIS, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO EVERYBODY UP HERE. THIS STARTED OFF AS A PROJECT THAT I WANTED FOR EAST WASHINGTON STREET BECAUSE IT'S BEEN ABANDONED FOR SO LONG, AND IT'S RIGHT THERE AT THE GATEWAY OF FORT GREGG ADAMS COMING INTO OUR CITY. THERE WAS ONCE A TIME WHEN YOU WOULD LEAVE PETERSBURG AND GO THROUGH TOWARDS HOPEWELL. YOU WOULD TURN AROUND BECAUSE IT LOOKED BAD. NO OFFENSE TO HOPEWELL. NOW, WHEN YOU COME INTO PETERSBURG FROM HOPEWELL, PEOPLE SPEED THROUGH OR TURN AROUND BECAUSE IT LOOKS BAD. THIS IS NOT JUST A TREE. NOW, I THOUGHT INITIALLY THAT WE COULD JUST PUT TREES DOWN AND MAKE IT PRETTY AND LOOK GOOD, BUT I WAS ALSO EDUCATED ON IT BY THE TREE STAFF AND THE AND THE ENGINEER THAT WE HAVE AND EVERYBODY ELSE. 
          THIS IS A, A PROGRAM THAT'S GOING TO BUILD THAT AREA. IT'S GOING TO INCREASE LIFE EXPECTANCY, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, IT'S GOING TO BRING MORE TRAFFIC TO THE CITY. AND WE'RE FIXING THE BECAUSE IT FLOODS DOWN THERE REAL BAD. WHENEVER IT RAINS. IT'S GOING TO ADDRESS ALL OF THAT. SO THIS $300,000 IS NOT OUR MONEY ANYWAY. IT'S MONEY THAT SOMEBODY GAVE TO US. SAY, WE BELIEVE IN YOUR IDEA. WE BELIEVE IN YOUR EFFORTS. HERE YOU GO AND HAVE AT IT. NOW, WHAT'S THAT SAYING TO US? AS COUNCIL IS SAYING, IF ANOTHER COUNCIL WILL COME UP WITH A PROJECT THAT THEY SEE FOR THEIR AREA, I CAN GET THAT SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY OR DOUBLE IF YOU WANT TO BEAUTIFY YOUR AREA. BUT I DO NOT THINK WE SHOULD TAKE AWAY OR REDUCE ANYTHING FROM EAST WASHINGTON STREET BECAUSE IT'S BEEN REDUCED TOO LONG, HAS BEEN NEGLECTED TOO LONG. SO THAT MONEY SPENT IT THERE. NO WELLS. THAT'S ALL I GOT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. COUNCILMAN WESTBROOK. 
          THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. I'M NOT GOING TO KEEP THE CONVERSATION GOING, BUT I WAS JUST WONDERING. 
          I THINK I ASKED YOU LAST TIME HOW WAS THE WILCOX LAKE WATERSHED AREA AND THAT FACTORING IN INTO YOUR STUDY? BECAUSE IN MY OPINION, THERE'S A LOT OF DEAD TREES OR TREES THAT'S ON THE GROUND. SO I GUESS I HAVE A QUESTION AGAIN ABOUT HEALTHY TREES VERSUS AGAIN, I GUESS IT'S LIKE ALL TREES THE SAME. I HEARD YOU SAY PINES AND OAKS, BUT WHAT ABOUT LIKE PEOPLE? FOR INSTANCE, I LIVE IN THE RAMBLEWOOD DIVISION AND THEY'VE CUT DOWN A LOT OF TREES BECAUSE THEY WERE DANGEROUS TO THE POWER LINES. SO NOW YOU HAVE TREES WITH NO BRANCHES. SO HOW DO I MAKE SURE THAT TEN YEARS, 20 YEARS FROM NOW, WE'RE STILL IN A VERY POSITIVE STATE OF TREE HEALTHINESS VERSUS A LOT OF THINGS LIKE EVEN VINES OR I KNOW ABOUT THE WILCOX LAKES WATERSHED. THERE WAS CALLED INVASIVE TREES. THAT'S GOING INTO THE DAM. THAT'S GOING TO HAVE TO GET CUT. BUT I WOULD WANT TO SEE THEM SOMETHING GO BACK. HOW DOES THAT ALL FACTOR INTO YOUR STUDY? WELL, YOU ARE RIGHT. NOT ALL TREES ARE EQUAL. A LOT OF THIS GOES INTO OUR 
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EDUCATION PROGRAM CITYWIDE, HELPING ADVISE THE CITY AS WELL WHAT IS HEALTHY, WHAT ISN'T, TO IMPLEMENT PLANS AND REGULATIONS ON HOW TO WORK ON THAT. WE CAN ALSO DO PUBLIC EDUCATION. WHAT TO PLANT IF YOU'RE NEAR A POWER LINE, A LOT OF IT IN THAT AREA ONE, IT'S RIGHT TREE, RIGHT PLACE, ANOTHER PART OF IT IS. CAPACITY. NOT REALLY REALIZING BY LETTING THOSE TREES GROW UNDER THE POWER LINE, WE'VE CREATED A PROBLEM. SO A LOT OF IT IS GOING TO BE EDUCATION. 
          LOOKING FOR GRANTS TO HELP REMOVE SOME OF THOSE TREES WHILE PUTTING IN THE PROPER ONES. SO A LOT OF EDUCATION IS GOING TO GO A LONG WAY WHEN IT COMES TO THAT AREA, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE A LOT OF IT IS PRIVATE PROPERTY. WE'VE ALSO BEEN TALKING TO THE CITY ABOUT INVASIVE SPECIES AS WELL. 
          THERE WAS DISCUSSION WITH FULLER TO DO A WORKSHOP ON HOW TO REMOVE THOSE INVASIVE SPECIES VINES. SO I BELIEVE FULLER WAS LOOKING INTO THAT. BUT WE CAN ALSO STEP IN AS WELL AND ASSIST WITH THAT, TEACHING THE PUBLIC AND THE CITY STAFF WHAT THESE PROBLEMATIC TREES AND VINES LOOK LIKE, HOW TO GET RID OF THEM AND GET THE BIGGEST BANG FOR YOUR BUCK. WE CAN KEEP THE AREA TREED. IT JUST IS RIGHT TREE, RIGHT PLACE THE QUALITY AND THE EDUCATION. WELL, I THINK ABOUT THAT. THE KEY WORD I THINK THERE IS EDUCATION. AND I WOULD HOPE THAT YOU REALLY DO FOCUS ON THE YOUTH. THE YOUTH IS THE FUTURE. AND WHEN THEY'RE BEHIND SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, THEY FEEL LIKE THEIR VOICE IS HEARD. I REALLY FEEL LIKE WE CAN MOVE THE CITY FORWARD BECAUSE IT'S IN THE SCHOOL SYSTEMS. LIKE WE WERE REALLY FOCUSING ON THE LITTER PROBLEM IN PETERSBURG, AND WE TOOK IT TO THE SCHOOLS. AND I KNOW THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, FENCES. I USE MY DAUGHTER. SHE SHE SAYS, HEY, PEOPLE ARE LITTERING. SHE'S NOTICING OF IT THAT HOPEFULLY SHE SEES THE PROBLEM. HOPEFULLY IF THE YOUTH SEE THAT THERE'S A TREE PROBLEM, THEY WILL GET BEHIND IT TO MAKE THE CITY MOVE AGAIN FORWARD. AND WE CAN DO SOMETHING TO CHANGE THIS PROBLEM. HELP OUT EAST WASHINGTON AND EVERYTHING ELSE. THANK YOU. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH, LADIES FOR THE WONDERFUL PRESENTATION. IT WAS VERY INFORMATIVE. AND WE HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO, BUT WE'RE UP FOR THE TASK. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. NEXT, NEXT WE MOVE ON TO ITEM SIX WHICH IS 
          [6. Public Comments]
PUBLIC COMMENTS. WE'LL START OFF WITH OUR BIGGEST TREE ADVOCATE IN PETERSBURG, DOCTOR SARAH WITTICH. HELLO. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. COUNCIL 22 CENTER HILL COURT, PETERSBURG, VIRGINIA. SARAH MELISSA WITTICH. FIRST OF ALL, I'D JUST LIKE TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE CENTER FOR ALL THE FABULOUS WORK THEY'VE BEEN DOING. I ALSO KNOW THAT THE CITY WORKED VERY HARD ON FARMER STREET. THAT WAS A LOT OF WORK TO DO IN A VERY SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME. I KNOW I WAS HURTING THE NEXT DAY. I THINK SOME OF THE OTHER FOLKS IN HERE MIGHT HAVE BEEN HURTING TOO, FROM MOVING THOSE 300 POUND TREES. BUT I ALSO WANT TO BRING OUT THAT THAT WAS THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND A COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION THAT WAS REALLY THE DRIVING FORCE BEHIND THAT. AND SO I JUST REALLY WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE HERE, IF YOU ARE IN THE AUDIENCE AND YOU WANT TREES IN YOUR AREA, PLEASE CONTACT EITHER GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE CENTER OR MYSELF OR YOUR COUNCIL MEMBER TO GET IN CONTACT WITH SOME OF US, BECAUSE WE REALLY DO WANT TO PROMOTE THIS. ONE THING I DID WANT TO POINT OUT IS THAT THIS DATA CENTER IS SMACK DAB IN THE MIDDLE OF ONE OF THE BIGGEST GREEN SPACES WE HAVE IN PETERSBURG, AND SO 127 ACRES OF GREEN SPACE, IF WE WANT TO MAINTAIN OUR TREE COVER, NEEDS TO BE REPLACED. AND SO I THINK THAT AS YOU MOVE FORWARD WITH DEVELOPMENT PLANS, WHETHER IT'S FOR HOUSING OR FOR DATA CENTERS OR FOR PHARMA, THAT WE LOOK AT WHERE WE'RE GOING TO PUT THOSE OTHER TREES TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE EQUITABLE TREE COVER, AND THAT WE ARE NOT CREATING NEW HEAT ISLANDS AND NEW PROBLEMS WITH NOT ONLY HEAT, BUT STORMWATER MANAGEMENT AND PUBLIC HEALTH. I WAS LOOKING AT THE STATISTICS THE OTHER DAY, AND PETERSBURG, ABOUT 1 IN 4 DAYS IN PETERSBURG IS OVER 90 DEGREES ALREADY, AND THAT'S NOT GOING TO GET ANY BETTER. AND SO HAVING THE TREE COVER, THAT CONSISTENT CONTINUOUS TREE COVER ABLE TO LOWER IN SOME CASES THAT TEMPERATURE BY 20, ALMOST 20°F, AS WE SAW IN THE PRESENTATION, MAKES A HUGE DIFFERENCE TO WHAT PEOPLE CAN DO, HOW COMFORTABLE THEY ARE, AND WHAT THEIR AIR CONDITIONING COSTS ARE IN THE SUMMERTIME. SO AS WE THINK ABOUT THE HEALTH OF THE CITY, I'M REALLY I WAS THINKING, I CAN RETIRE. YOU GUYS ARE ALL TALKING ABOUT TREES UP HERE, YOU KNOW, SO I'M NOT GOING TO RETIRE, I PROMISE. I'VE GOT SOME OTHER ISSUES TO WORK ON. WHICH BRINGS ME. BUT YOU GUYS ARE DOING A 
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GREAT JOB. PLEASE LET ME KNOW. WE JUST GOT ANOTHER GRANT. NAOMI'S GOING TO BE BRINGING IT FORWARD TO YOU GUYS FOR ACCEPTANCE. ABOUT $50,000 TO TAKE DOWN SOME DEAD TREES IN POPLAR LAWN AND REPLANT AND PROVIDE EDUCATION. SO ON, PRUNING AND TREE CARE. SO KEEP YOUR EYES OUT FOR THAT. WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN FINAL NUMBERS ON THAT YET, BUT THAT IS COMING DOWN THE PIPELINE AND THAT NEEDS TO BE SPENT THE NEXT YEAR OR TWO. SO GOING TO BE BUSY AND BRINGING ME TO THE FINAL MOMENT, I WOULD PLEASE LIKE AN UPDATE ON THE COURTHOUSE PROJECT. AND WHEN YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE COMMUNITY MEETINGS. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. NEXT, MRS. BARBARA RUDOLPH. 
          BARB RUDOLPH, 1675 MOUNT VERNON STREET. I'VE GOT A COMMENT ON WHAT MR. WESTBROOK, COUNSELOR WESTBROOK TALKED ABOUT BECAUSE HE MADE A COUPLE OF REALLY IMPORTANT POINTS ABOUT TREES. 
          THE FIRST THING THAT YOU SAID WHEN YOU TALKED ABOUT THE TREES THAT ARE BEING TRIMMED OVER THE POWER LINES, I THINK MAYBE YOU'RE OBSERVING THE SAME THING, BUT AT LEAST IN OTHER PARTS OF PETERSBURG, THEY'RE BEING TRIMMED, BUT THEY'RE REALLY BEING BUTCHERED. I MEAN, THEY'RE BEING LEFT IN A CONDITION THAT TREES HAVE, LIKE ONE SIDE, THEY'RE ALMOST AS SHEARED OFF AND THE OTHER SIDE IS FULL OF A FULL, A FULL RANGE OF BRANCHES. SO THAT TREE IS LOPSIDED. AND IF WE ACTUALLY GOT A BIG ICE STORM, LIKE THERE HAVE BEEN SOME PLACES WE'RE GOING TO LOSE SOME OF THOSE TREES, BUT I GUESS THEY'RE GOING TO FALL IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION. AND ON THE POWER LINES. SO DOMINION'S HAPPY. SO WHERE I'M COMING FROM WITH THIS, YOU GUYS, IS PLEASE COORDINATE WHATEVER YOU GOT TO DO WITH DOMINION, BECAUSE THEY'RE THE ONES WHO ARE HIRING THE CONTRACTORS WHO ARE DOING THIS TO THE TREES. BUT IT IS AN ABOMINATION, REALLY, IF YOU GO AROUND AND LOOK AT THEM, I MEAN, THEY ARE DEFORMED. I'M TRYING TO TRYING TO KEEP MYSELF FROM BEING TOO HYPERBOLIC HERE, BUT. OR SOUNDING THAT WAY. BUT IT'S PRETTY BAD. SO THEY'RE THEY'RE NOT DOING A FAVOR FOR ANY OF THE WORK THAT'S BEING DONE BY THE GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE GROUP OR DOCTOR WHITTIER AND BSU AND ALL THE OTHER PLAYERS WHO ARE INVOLVED IN THIS. AND THE OTHER PART THAT COUNCILOR WESTBROOK TALKED ABOUT THAT'S IMPORTANT IS EDUCATION. SO WE SAW THAT THOSE MAPS AND THEN THAT ONE WHERE YOU BACKED UP AND SAID, THIS IS THE RED AREA. THESE ARE THE PARTS WHERE THE POVERTY THERE'S A CONVERGENCE BETWEEN POVERTY AND LACK OF TREES AND HIGH HEAT. 
          THAT'S THE PART I THINK WE SHOULD BE CONCENTRATING ON. AND THAT'S WHERE YOU NEED EDUCATION, BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO DON'T, WHO ARE INCLINED TO CUT DOWN TREES OR AROUND THEIR PROPERTY. I'VE HAD THAT CONVERSATION EVEN WITH A FEW COUNCILORS. BUT ANYWAY, THAT'S I THINK THAT'S WHERE A LOT OF EMPHASIS IN THIS NEEDS TO GO. I MEAN, I THINK PLANTING NEW TREES IN DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE CITY IS GREAT, BUT WE'VE GOT TO DO SOMETHING IN THE AREAS WHERE THE TREE COVER HAS BEEN SO COMPROMISED. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S AND THAT REALLY WASN'T WHAT I SIGNED UP TO TALK ABOUT. BUT I AM I AM VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT TREES. I JUST WANTED TO SAY YOU ALL DID A REALLY GOOD JOB OF MAKING YOUR ORGANIZATIONAL MEETING SHORT AND LOW KEY. I APPRECIATE THAT THE RULES OF COUNCIL ARE NOT BEING CHANGED. HOWEVER, WHAT'S ON THE AGENDA IS STILL OUT THERE, SO ME AND OTHER CONCERNED CITIZENS ARE AWARE OF WHAT THERE WAS AN ATTEMPT TO DO. 
          SO I'M JUST ASKING YOU SERIOUSLY TO CONSIDER WHAT YOU LEARNED TODAY, RIGHT BEFORE YOU VOTED, THAT THERE WOULD BE A GROUNDSWELL OF OPPOSITION TO THE CHANGES YOU WERE PROPOSING. 
          THANK YOU. NEXT, PASTOR DAVIS. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. I JUST FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE DOING IN THIS CITY AND THE ACTIVITY AND ALL THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF DEVELOPMENT THAT'S GOING ON HERE. BUT IN THE WORDS OF ANTOINE FISHER, WHO WILL SPEAK FOR THE LITTLE BOY. THAT'S RIGHT, PASTOR DAVIS, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR ME. LEONARD DAVIS, 3340 WEST WASHINGTON STREET. THANK YOU VERY. I'M HERE BECAUSE I WANTED TO GIVE AN INVITATION TO A CONVERSATION. WE'RE PLANNING A COMMUNITY EVENT HERE AT THE EVENT CENTER, AND I WANTED MY COUNCILMEN TO HAVE A PERSONAL INVITATION FROM YOURS TRULY. WE HEARD ALL THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF INFORMATION TODAY, AND IT'S VERY ENLIGHTENING. BUT, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT PRINCE WILLIAM COUNTY, THEY HAVE A PERSONAL PER CAPITA OF $50,893. 
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THEY HAVE A HOUSEHOLD CAPITAL OF $128,873. LOUGHTON HAS $79,133 PER PERSON. ON AVERAGE, HOUSEHOLD $178,707 PER HOUSEHOLD. PETERSBURG. WE HAVE $29,590 ON AVERAGE PER PERSON, $59,741 PER HOUSEHOLD. NOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT DOES TO YOU, BUT THAT UPSETS ME. AND PART OF THE UPSET OR THE PASSION THAT YOU HEAR FROM ME IS THAT OUR CHILDREN ARE STILL SUFFERING FROM A LACK OF QUALITY, NOT SO MUCH QUALITY EDUCATION IN THE TERMS OF WHAT'S OUT THERE, BUT IN THE TERMS OF MATH IN PARTICULAR, READING IN PARTICULAR. AND SO WE ENGAGED A PERSON TO COME HERE BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT IS THAT OUR BLACK CHILDREN STILL HAVE THE LOWEST MATH LITERACY NATIONWIDE. AND PART OF THAT IS NOT BECAUSE THEY LACK BRILLIANCE. PART OF IT IS BECAUSE THE FUNDAMENTALS OF MATH ARE NOT TAUGHT WELL EARLY. 
          AND SO WHEN IT'S TIME TO GO TO SOME OF THE HIGHER PAYING JOBS, THEY OPT TO TAKE A MAJOR THAT DOESN'T HAVE A LOT OF MATH IN IT. WE WANT TO CHANGE THAT. WE WANT TO HELP BE A PART OF THE SOLUTION. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE ADVOCATING IN THIS PARTICULAR EVENT, OUR EVENT, MATTER OF FACT, IS A COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIP. AND WE ACTUALLY OPERATE ON FATE BECAUSE OUR FATE IS IN OUR OWN HANDS. FAMILY IS ACHIEVING TOTAL EMPOWERMENT, AND THAT'S FAMILIES GOING BACK TO HAVING FAITH IN MARRIAGES, ADVANCING EDUCATION, TECHNOLOGICAL INNOVATION, AND EMOTIONAL AND ECONOMIC EMPOWERMENT. I WANT TO GIVE EACH ONE OF YOU AN INVITATION TO COME TO DAVIS. CAN YOU GIVE US THE DATE? YES, IT'S JANUARY THE 11TH HERE IN THIS EVENT CENTER FROM 10 TO 3 JANUARY 11TH. FROM 10 TO 3. YES, SIR. AND I HAVE I HAVE THE FLIERS AND IT HAS THE QR CODE. THE EVENT IS FREE. I'D LOVE TO SEE MY COUNCILMAN THERE. ALRIGHT. I'D LOVE TO SEE YOU THERE. ALRIGHT, ALRIGHT. AND I APPRECIATE THE TIME. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH, PASTOR DAVIS, FOR ALL YOU DO. YES, SIR. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ALL RIGHT. YOU CAN GIVE THAT TO OFF THE STREET THERE. YEAH. OH, YEAH. ALL RIGHT, NEXT UP, BOBBY BEVERLY. 
          COME BACK. INSTEAD OF. GOOD EVENING. THE WORD OR PHRASE I'M GONNA USE IS NO INTEGRITY. BOBBY BEVERLY, 2305 DUNDEE DRIVE ON NOVEMBER THE 19TH, 2024, AN INCIDENT OCCURRED HERE AT THE PETERSBURG PUBLIC LIBRARY THAT MANY OF YOU ARE UNAWARE OF. THE EPICENTER OF THIS SITUATION IS THE ONE WHO SITS IN THE MIDDLE OF COUNCIL. FOLLOWING THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING, THE MAYOR, WHO WAS FLANKED BY TWO POLICE OFFICERS, EXITED THE LIBRARY AND ADVANCED TOWARDS ME. IT MUST BE STATED THAT THE TWO OFFICERS WERE VERY PROFESSIONAL AND THE CITIZENS OF PETERSBURG AND CHIEF CHRISTIAN CAN BE PROUD OF THEM. BUT THE ARROGANT, NARCISSISTIC MAYOR DISGRACED HIMSELF YET AGAIN AND AGAIN. IT WAS EXPLAINED TO ME LUCIDLY THAT MY INCIDENT HAS BEEN A CONTINUING PATTERN OF INTIMIDATION AND ATTEMPTS TO INCITE CONSTITUENTS TO ASSAULT HIM. THUS, A CHARGE IS RENDERED TO THE VICTIM INSTEAD OF THE VICTIMIZER. ON THE DAY IN QUESTION, THE MAYOR APPROACHED ME WITH A HIDEOUS SMILE UPON HIS FACE AND TOWERED OVER ME. HE BEGAN TO TAUNT ME AND POINTED HIS FINGER DOWN AT ME. IN ADDITION TO THIS, HE ATTACKED MY PROFESSION AND EDUCATION BY STATING, I QUOTE, YOU ARE A FAKE, A HISTORIAN, UNQUOTE. I EQUALED HIS ENERGY WITH THE SAME PHRASE, BUT REPLACE THE WORD HISTORIAN WITH THE WORD MAYOR. IT WAS DIFFICULT USING THE WORD MAYOR IN THIS INSTANCE. THE TWO OFFICERS WATCHED IN AMAZEMENT AS THE MAYOR BELITTLED HIMSELF. HE EVEN HAD THE AUDACITY TO SLAM MY DOOR AND TOLD ME I COULDN'T GET OUT 
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OF MY CAR. I THEN DROVE OFF TO ESCAPE THE BULLISH ATMOSPHERE. WHEN COMPARING MY EDUCATION TO HIS POSITION OF MAYOR, THERE IS NO COMPARISON. MY BIO READS AS FOLLOWS TWO DEGREES IN HISTORY. 
          BOTH THE MASTERS AMBASSADORS. MY THESIS RESEARCH WAS ON HANNIBAL HAMLIN, FOR WHICH HE IS CLUELESS OF ONE PUBLISHED BOOK. AND LASTLY, 46 YEARS OF STUDY IN MY DISCIPLINE. HE WAS SELECTED BY FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS AND NOT THE CITIZENS OF PETERSBURG. HIS CONDUCT IS REASON FOR THOSE OF HIS WARD TO SIGN A PETITION TO REMOVE HIM EXPEDITIOUSLY FROM HIS SEAT AND APPOINT SOMEONE COMPETENT, TRANSPARENT AND LASTLY, LEVEL HEADED. BAD LEADERSHIP IS OBVIOUS IN THE CITY. WORST SCHOOLS IN THE STATE, A CASINO THAT WILL ENRICH THE RICH AND KEEP THOSE IMPOVERISHED IMPOVERISHED. AND THERE'S A STRONG POSSIBILITY THAT THE FACES OF COUNCIL WILL CHANGE. AS A CHILD IN PETERSBURG DURING THE 60S AND 70S, I RECALL THIS PEOPLE OF THE SOUTH ARE SLOW TODAY. THAT'S NOW. PEOPLE OF THE SOUTH ARE SLOWER. LET'S CHANGE THAT BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY AND REMOVE THOSE BEFORE THE CITIZENS TO HAVE HONEST. REPRESENTATION FOR ALL CITIZENS. THANK YOU. OKAY. IS THAT MR. THOMAS? YEAH. I'M HERE. YES. HOW ARE YOU DOING? ALL RIGHT. HOW ARE YOU DOING? I REALLY DIDN'T WANT TO SPEAK, BUT SINCE YOU CALLED MY NAME. OKAY. 
          MARCO THOMAS, I LIVE AT 1805 MATTOCKS AVENUE, OKAY? AND I ALSO HAVE A PROPERTY ON GROVE AVENUE, WHICH IS MOSTLY UNDERDEVELOPED, MEANING THE JUST NATURAL, YOU KNOW, NO DEVELOPMENT ON IT. SO I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING A STUDY ON THE TREES. I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TREES. YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU SAID, QUALITY OF LIFE IS BIG. JUST THE SIMPLE ACT OF JUST TAKING A DRINK OF LEMONADE IN THE SHADE. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? A LOT OF OUR PEOPLE DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO THAT, BECAUSE SO MANY OF THE TREES AND THINGS WHERE WE LIVE ARE, YOU KNOW, GONE, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? SO I THINK THIS CAN BE A GOOD THING. AND I APPRECIATE Y'ALL PUTTING THE EFFORT INTO IT. NATURE IS VERY IMPORTANT. YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T WANT TO LIVE IN A CITY THAT THAT YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T ACCESS NATURE AND FUN THINGS TO DO OUTDOORS. SO HATS OFF TO YOU GUYS FOR DOING THAT. AND I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING IT DEVELOP. I KNOW A COUPLE PEOPLE MENTIONED LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T JUST WANT TO GET THE GRANT, SPEND ALL THE MONEY ON TALKING ABOUT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? SO USING THESE GRANTS TO THE GET THE BEST BANG FOR OUR BUCK, I THINK IS IMPORTANT. AND THAT'S ALL I APPRECIATE IT OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. NEXT MISS BETH SARKISIAN. ALL RIGHT. THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT. NEXT 
          [7. Approval of Consent Agenda (to include minutes of previous meetings):]
WE MOVE ON TO ITEM SEVEN APPROVAL THE CONSENT AGENDA TO INCLUDE MINUTES OF PREVIOUS MEETINGS. ITEM A MINUTES DECEMBER 17TH 2020 FOR CLOSED SESSION DECEMBER 23RD 2020 FOR SPECIAL MEETING ITEM B FIRST READING AND SCHEDULE A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE CONSIDERATION OF ACCEPTANCE AND APPROPRIATION OF THE VIRGINIA STATE UNIVERSITY PUBLIC HEALTH INSTITUTE HEALTH DISPARITIES GRANT. ITEM C FIRST READING AND SCHEDULE A PUBLIC HEARING FOR CONSIDERATION OF ACCEPTANCE AND APPROPRIATION OF THE VDM EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PERFORMANCE GRANT. ITEM D FIRST READING SCHEDULE A PUBLIC HEARING FOR CONSIDERATION OF ACCEPTANCE AND APPROPRIATION OF THE 2024 OPERATION CEASE FIRE GRANT PROGRAM FOR THE COMMONWEALTH ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. 
          ITEM E FIRST READING AND SCHEDULE A PUBLIC HEARING FOR CONSIDERATION OF ACCEPTANCE AND APPROPRIATION OF THE FY 25 DMV SELECTIVE ENFORCEMENT POLICE TARIFF SERVICES GRANT. ITEM F FIRST READING SCHEDULE. PUBLIC HEARING FOR CONSIDERATION OF ACCEPTANCE AND APPROPRIATION OF THE FY 25 DMV SELECTIVE ENFORCEMENT ALCOHOL GRANT. ITEM G FIRST READING A SCHEDULED PUBLIC HEARING FOR CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND AND RE ADOPT THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PETERSBURG PERTAINING TO PROVIDING ADDITIONAL FLEXIBILITY FOR PLACEMENT OF SANDWICH BOARD SIGNS IN DOWNTOWN PETERSBURG. ITEM H FIRST READING AND SCHEDULE A PUBLIC HEARING FOR CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE RECOMMENDING REVOCATION OF SPECIAL USE PERMIT GRANTED TO MICHAEL AND NINA STANLEY TO OPERATE A STANDALONE USED VEHICLE SALES LOT AT 1024 WEST WASHINGTON STREET. PARCEL ID 024270002 AND THE B2 GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT FOR FAILURE TO COMPLY WITH CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL. ITEM F FIRST READING AND SCHEDULE A PUBLIC HEARING FOR CONSIDERATION OF AN AMENDMENT AND RE ADOPTION OF CHAPTER 50, ARTICLE TWO OF THE CITY CODE PERTAINING TO NOISE. ITEM J FIRST READING AND 
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SCHEDULE A PUBLIC HEARING FOR CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE TO APPROPRIATE FUNDING FOR THE SPORTS TRAINING FACILITY. FIELDHOUSE AT PETERSBURG HIGH SCHOOL IN THE AMOUNT OF 1,900,000. ITEM K FIRST READING SCHEDULE A PUBLIC HEARING FOR CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE TO AUTHORIZE THE REFUND OF TAXES ERRONEOUSLY PAID FOR TAX. PARCEL NUMBER 02315003. THOSE ITEMS FOR THE CONSENT AGENDA. VICE MAYOR HILL, MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS READ. ALL RIGHT. COUNCILWOMAN SMITH LEE SECOND. MR. MAYOR. YES. MOTION A SECOND. YES, I'D LIKE TO REMOVE ITEMS SEVEN G AND SEVEN J FOR DISCUSSION LATER IN THIS MEETING. I'D LIKE TO REMOVE THEM FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA, FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA? TO WHERE YOU MOVE THEM. BECAUSE. WELL, I DON'T SEE THE SLOT, BUT I KNOW WHAT WE'VE. BECAUSE AT THE WORK SESSION WE TYPICALLY HAVE AT THE REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING, WE NORMALLY HAVE ITEMS REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA, BUT NOT ON THE WORK SESSION. WELL, I MEAN, NOW'S THE TIME TO DO IT. WE I DON'T THINK I THINK WE NEED TO SPEND MORE TIME AT THE WORK SESSIONS TALKING ABOUT ORDINANCES THAT. OR CONSENT AGENDA, ITEMS THAT RAISE SOME QUESTIONS OR NEED SOME WORK. AND I THINK BOTH OF THESE ITEMS, BOTH THE SANDWICH NOISE ORDINANCE AND THE FIELDHOUSE PROPOSAL NEED SOME QUESTIONS ANSWERED BEFORE WE VOTE AND PROBABLY GO BACK TO SOMEBODY EITHER THE DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING, IN THE CASE OF SEVEN G, OR TO THE PROPONENT OF THE SPORTS CLINIC TRAINING FACILITY AGENDA ITEM SEVEN J. TO GET SOME ANSWERS BEFORE WE ARE IN A POSITION TO VOTE ON THESE THINGS. RIGHT. BUT, COUNCILMAN, THIS IS JUST TO SET IT FOR THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR THE NEXT MEETING. SO WE'RE JUST WE WILL BE DISCUSSING IT AT THE NEXT MEETING. THEN ON THAT MEETING, YOU CAN PULL ITEMS FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA. THEN FOR FURTHER CONSIDERATION. WELL OKAY. BUT THAT'S THAT'S NOT A VERY EFFICIENT WAY TO PROCEED. IF MORE INFORMATION IS DESIRED. AS TO ITEM SEVEN J AND SEVEN G, THAT MEANS WE EITHER WE VOTE WITHOUT THE OR WE POSTPONE A VOTE ON THE INFORMATION. COUNCILMAN, WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR A FEW YEARS NOW, AND THIS IS THE FIRST TIME ON THE WORK SESSION THAT THERE'S BEEN AN ISSUE ON PULLING SOMETHING. 
          WHEN WE DO THAT ON THE REGULAR SCHEDULE COUNCIL MEETING, WHEN WE HAVE ITEMS PULLED, THIS IS JUST SETTING THE STAGE FOR THE NEXT MEETING FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING TO DISCUSS. IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, WE CAN SET UP TIMES BEFORE THE MEETING OR ON THAT MEETING DAY TO DISCUSS ANY PROBLEMS THEN. SO WE STILL HAVE ISSUES. YOU CAN ALWAYS PULL IT, BUT I WOULD HATE TO BELEAGUER THE MEETING JUST ON. THIS IS NOT A VOTE FOR OR SUPPORT OR AGAINST, BUT THIS IS JUST TO SET FOR THE NEXT MEETING. WELL, I MOVE THAT WE AMEND THE AGENDA TO ADD AN ITEM FOR DISCUSSION TONIGHT CONCERNING ITEMS REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA, SPECIFICALLY ITEMS SEVEN G AND SEVEN J. THAT WILL MAKE THINGS I THINK GO MORE SMOOTHLY ON JANUARY 21ST, BECAUSE AT THAT POINT WE'LL HAVE INFORMATION THAT WE LACK NOW AND LIKELY WILL LACK ON COUNCIL BECAUSE THERE IS NO INFORMATION IN HERE ON ANY OF THESE ITEMS, WE'RE JUST SETTING THEM FOR THE NEXT MEETING TO BE ABLE TO PRESENT YOU WITH THOSE ITEMS BEFORE THE COUNCIL MEETING. IT'S JUST STANDARD PROCEDURE. I MEAN, I DON'T WANT TO ONCE WE GET I DON'T WANT TO CREATE A NEW THING IN WHICH WE ARE PLUCKING THINGS OFF BEFORE WE EVEN LOOK AT IT. WELL, I'VE LOOKED AT IT. I'VE STUDIED IT ALL WEEKEND. NO, NO YOU DIDN'T. YOU SAID YOU DIDN'T HAVE IT. YOU SAID YOU DIDN'T HAVE ANY INFORMATION. AT LEAST LET US GET THE INFORMATION TO YOU. AND I'M NOT GOING TO BE PLUCKING OFF THINGS FOR THE SCHOOLS, FOR THIS STADIUM THING THAT I HAVEN'T SEEN. YOU HAVEN'T SEEN, AND YOU WANT TO DISCUSS, AND WE DON'T HAVE THEM HERE TO DISCUSS. THAT WILL BE DONE AT THE NEXT MEETING ON THE 17TH. THAT'S ONLY FAIR. WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS NOW FOR MULTIPLE YEARS. IT'S ALWAYS BEEN THIS WAY. WELL, I THINK IT'S NOT A SYSTEM. I THINK WE OUGHT TO SPEND MORE TIME AT OUR WORK SESSION MEETINGS. IT SHOULDN'T BE A. OH, BOY, HOW SOON CAN WE GET OUT OF HERE? KIND OF A MEETING, BUT WE NEED TO ACTUALLY DO SOME WORK ON ITEMS THAT ARE GOING TO COME BEFORE US AT OUR BUSINESS SESSION. AND SO JUST BECAUSE WE'VE DONE IT WRONG IN THE PAST DOESN'T MEAN WE OUGHT 
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TO CONTINUE TO DO IT WRONG TODAY AND INTO THE FUTURE. SO I DON'T HAVE ANSWERS, BUT I DO HAVE QUESTIONS, AND THAT'S WHAT I WORKED ON OVER THE WEEKEND, AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS REFERRING TO ON THE SANDWICH BOARD SIGN ISSUE. I HAVE SOME ALTERNATIVE LANGUAGE THAT I THINK IS A LOT EASIER TO UNDERSTAND, AND A LOT FAIRER TO THE BUSINESSES. IT LOOKS LIKE, AS PROPOSED, WE'RE DEFENDING FORT KNOX. I JUST DON'T SEE THAT RISK BEING POSED TO THE CITY BY A SANDWICH BOARD SIGN. AND AS TO THE FIELD HOUSE, I'M ALL IN FAVOR OF FUNDING THE FIELD HOUSE, BUT IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE A JOINT EFFORT. AND I WANT TO KNOW HOW MUCH HAS THE FIELD HOUSE COMMITTEE RAISED AND WHAT HAVE THEY DONE TO RAISE IT? AND DO THEY HAVE ANY EXPECTATION OF RAISING MORE, OR ARE WE GOING TO FIND OURSELVES? AT A FUTURE MEETING BEING TOLD, OH, WE NEED, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER $2.5 MILLION OR $2.7 MILLION TO FINISH THIS PROJECT OFF? WE'VE HEARD THAT BEFORE. WE'VE BEEN IN THAT POSITION BEFORE. WE'RE SEATED. SORRY. WE ARE SITTING IN A FACILITY THAT WAS FINANCED IN THE SAME WAY THAT I'VE JUST DESCRIBED IN LARGE PART, AND IT'S JUST A PATTERN THAT I SEE REPEATING ITSELF. A GOOD IDEA COMES UP, WE GO ALONG WITH IT ON A SHARED BASIS. OUR PARTNER DOESN'T PRODUCE, AND CITY COUNCIL ENDS UP PAYING THE WHOLE BILL. OKAY, COUNCILMAN, THERE'S A POINT OF ORDER. YOU HAD A MOTION ON THERE TO PLUCK THOSE OFF. LET'S LET'S GO ON AND GO WITH THE POINT OF ORDER AND SEE IF THERE'S A SECOND FOR THAT MOTION TO PLUCK THOSE OFF THE MOTION FOR COUNCILMAN COOPER'S SUBSTITUTE MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND? SEEING NO SECOND THE MOTION DIES, WE'LL GO WITH THE ORIGINAL MOTION, WHICH WAS TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA, AS STATED. MISS HILL, COULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? COUNCIL MEMBER, CUTHBERT? NO. FOR THE REASONS I'VE SAID, COME JANUARY 21ST, WE WILL NOT HAVE THE INFORMATION WE NEED IN ORDER TO MAKE INTELLIGENT DECISIONS. COUNCIL MEMBER JONES. COUNCIL MEMBER. MEYERS. COUNCIL MEMBER. 
          WESTBROOK, I. COUNCIL MEMBER. SMITH. LEE I VICE MAYOR. HILL I MAYOR. PERRY. AYE. MOTION CARRIES NEXT. COUNCILMAN JONES. YES, MR. MAYOR, THANK YOU, I JUST. EXCUSE ME. ITEM SEVEN E AND F. IT'S NOT TO PLUCK ANYTHING OFF, BUT I WANT TO EDUCATE THE PUBLIC, AND I NEED TO BE EDUCATED ON WHAT DOES THIS SELECTIVE ENFORCEMENT MEAN? I SEE IT TWICE. SO THE NEXT MEETING, COULD YOU HAVE SOMEONE COME HERE TO EXPLAIN TO EVERYBODY WHAT THE SELECTIVE ENFORCEMENT MEAN? BECAUSE THE PUBLIC COULD TAKE IT WRONG, YOU KNOW, ON SELECTIVE ENFORCEMENT FOR POLICE TRAFFIC SERVICES GRANT AND FOR THE ALCOHOL GRANT, SELECTIVE ENFORCEMENT, THE NEXT MEETING, COULD WE HAVE SOMEBODY I THINK CHIEF CHRISTIAN MAY HAVE AN ANSWER FOR THAT IN THE NEXT MEETING. OR COULD YOU EMAIL ME SOMETHING, CHIEF CHRISTIAN, EMAIL ALL OF US ON WHAT IT MEANS OR YOU WANT TO COME UP AND TALK. TELL US, CAN YOU DO THAT? CHIEF CHRISTIAN? DO THAT. COME ON UP. 
          COUNCIL, THIS IS JUST FOR ME TO UNDERSTAND BETTER ON WHAT THE SELECTIVE ENFORCEMENT MEAN. GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR. VICE MAYOR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. COUNCILMAN, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, SELECTIVE ENFORCEMENT IS HIGHWAY OR ENFORCEMENT, TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT IN OUR WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY THAT'S OUTSIDE OF OUR NORMAL PATROL. WE ARE FUNDED. WE GET FUNDS BASED ON A GRANT FROM THE DMV FOR THOSE ENFORCEMENT EFFORTS. SO YOU'RE SELECTIVE TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT IS FOR YOUR NORMAL TRAFFIC, SPEEDING AND THE LIKE THE CAMERAS AND STUFF THAT WE GOT OUT. IT'S NOT THE CAMERAS THAT'S THAT'S ACTUALLY MANPOWER ENFORCEMENT IN DIFFERENT PARTS OF OUR COMMUNITY, YOUR ROADBLOCKS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. GOTCHA. TRAFFIC CHECKS. BUT WHEN YOU'RE OUT WITH THE ALCOHOL, WITH YOUR ALCOHOL SELECTIVE ENFORCEMENT, THAT'S FOR YOUR DUI, TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT, AS WELL AS YOUR DUI TRAFFIC CHECKS. SO THERE'S GRANT FUNDS THAT WE RECEIVE FROM DMV TO DO THAT. 
          THOSE TYPES OF ENFORCEMENT THAT'S OUTSIDE OF OUR BUDGETARY RESTRAINTS. THANK YOU FOR THAT, CHIEF. AND IT EDUCATED ME, AND I'M SURE IT EDUCATED THE PUBLIC ON WHAT SELECTIVE ENFORCEMENT MEANS, BECAUSE WE SEE IT ALL THE TIME. WE JUST WANTED TO KNOW. SO I APPRECIATE THAT. HIGHWAY 
          [02:15:03]
ENFORCEMENT, TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT. BUT THESE ARE EFFORTS THAT'S FUNDED BY DMV THAT'S OUTSIDE OF OUR BUDGET. THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. ALL RIGHT. NEXT, 
          [10. Finance and Budget Report]
WE MOVE ON TO ITEM NINE OF THE REPORTS. THERE ARE NONE FOR THIS MEETING. ITEM TEN, FINANCE AND BUDGET REPORT AUDIT FY 24 GENERAL FUND BALANCE UPDATE. GOOD EVENING. COUNCIL I'M HERE GARRETT VAN VOORHEES IT DIRECTOR TO PRESENT FOR MY TEAM MEMBERS IN FINANCE BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T MAKE IT THIS EVENING. IT'S A SINGLE SLIDE. IT'S A FAIRLY STRAIGHTFORWARD BEGINNING FUND BALANCE. UNASSIGNED FUND BALANCE WAS 42.5. ENDING FUND BALANCE IS 50.8, WHICH IS AN INCREASE OF 8.3. GO ALL THE WAY OVER TO THE TOTALS. ON THE OTHER SIDE WITH 9.3 WAS OUR INCREASE FOR THIS YEAR OVERALL IN ALL THOSE CATEGORIES. IT'S A GREAT THING. GOOD JOB FINANCE FOR DOING A FANTASTIC JOB, AND THIS WILL GET US CLOSER AND CLOSER TO THAT. THAT WHAT TRIPLE A IS THAT THE BEST. YOU GOT IT GARRETT. YOU GOT IT. YEAH. SO GET US CLOSE TO TRIPLE A. ANY QUESTIONS? YEAH. 
          MR. GLASSER CAN PROBABLY HELP ME ANSWER THEM. ALL RIGHT. I'D SAY AT THE NEXT MEETING ON THE 21ST, WE'LL HAVE THE FORMAL PRESENTATION OF OUR. YES, WE'LL HAVE A FULL ONE ON THE ON THE COMPLETED CAFR, WHICH WE GOT IN ON TIME AND EVERYTHING WENT, WENT, WENT GREAT FOR THAT. YEAH. 
          WELL, THE ASK FOR IT WAS SUBMITTED ON TIME AND BY THE DECEMBER 31ST DEADLINE. AND WHAT YOU SEE IS WE HAD AN INCREASE IN OUR FUND BALANCE OF $8 MILLION IN FY 2024. SO YOU'LL SEE THAT IN THE FORMAL PRESENTATION ON THE 21ST BY OUR AUDITORS WHEN THEY ARE HERE. BUT I WANT TO THANK GARRETT FOR COMING UP AND DOING THE DOING THE PRESENTATION ON BEHALF OF FINANCE. HE DID A GREAT JOB. GOOD JOB. THANK YOU, SIR. GOOD NEWS FOR US. AND AS FAR AS WHEN WE LOOK AT WHERE WE ARE WITH BUDGET TO ACTUALS, WE'RE TRENDING TO WHERE WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE WITH OUR SPENDING TOWARDS THIS TIME OF YEAR. TYPICALLY, YOU WOULD HAVE SPENT HALF OF YOUR FUNDS BY THIS TIME OF THE YEAR. WE'RE ACTUALLY IN MOST DEPARTMENTS. WE'RE STILL IN THE 30 TO 40% RANGE. SO WE'RE DOING REALLY WELL WITH MANAGEMENT OF OUR FUNDS. SO EVERYTHING'S TRENDING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. BUT I THINK THE IMPORTANT THING IS WE FINISHED FY 24, WE GOT OUR AUDIT SUBMITTED ON TIME. WE ACTUALLY RECEIVED A EMAIL FROM THE APA TODAY CONFIRMING THAT OUR OUR AUDIT WAS RECEIVED BY THE DEADLINE. SO WE'RE ALL GOOD. AND WE FINISHED THE YEAR STRONG WITH THE MONEY TO GO TO FUND BALANCE. OKAY. COUNCILMAN COOPER THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. MR. CITY MANAGER, WOULD YOU ASK THE PRESENTERS? I GUESS IT WOULD BE THE AUTHORS OF THE CFR ON JANUARY 21ST TO DO TO TELL US MORE ABOUT VACANCY SAVINGS. FIRST, WHAT ARE VACANCY SAVINGS TO HOW MUCH OF THIS INCREASE IN FUND BALANCE OF $9.3 MILLION IS DUE TO VACANCY SAVINGS? THAT IS, BUDGETING MONEY FOR POSITIONS THAT WE NEVER FILL. TO PUT IT ANOTHER WAY. INFLATING EXPENSES IN ORDER TO INCREASE OUR FUND BALANCE AND NOT ONLY INFLATING EXPENSES, BUT CONSEQUENTLY INFLATING TAX REVENUE OR TAX RATES IN ORDER TO OBTAIN VACANCY SAVINGS. AND THREE ARE THERE ANY JURISDICTIONS AROUND US THAT BUDGET OR THAT TAKE VACANCY SAVINGS INTO ACCOUNT? AND IF SO, HOW MIGHT I HAVE HEARD THAT CHESTERFIELD COUNTY INCLUDES VACANCY SAVINGS IN ITS BUDGET? I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THAT'S TRUE OR NOT, BUT I'D LIKE OUR AUDITORS TO GIVE US THAT INFORMATION ALSO. SO THREE THINGS. WHAT ARE VACANCY SAVINGS TO HOW MUCH OF THIS 9.3 IS DUE TO VACANCY SAVINGS. AND THEN THREE, HOW DO ANY OTHER MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENTS IN THE AREA TAKE VACANCY SAVINGS INTO ACCOUNT IN BUDGETING FOR AN UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR? IS THAT SOMETHING, MR. ALTMAN, THAT YOU WILL PASS ON TO OUR AUDITORS, PLEASE? WELL, I THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN CERTAINLY ANSWER THE QUESTIONS. I DON'T THINK THE AUDITOR IS GOING TO BE IN A POSITION UNLESS THEY REPRESENT THE COMMUNITIES AROUND US. TO ANSWER YOUR LAST 
          [02:20:04]
QUESTION, BECAUSE IF THEY'RE NOT THE AUDITOR OF RECORD FOR A COMMUNITY, THEY CAN'T THEY WON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING. I KNOW THAT CHESTERFIELD HAD SOME. THE CHESTERFIELD COUNTY, ONE OF THE DEPUTY COUNTY ADMINISTRATORS, SITS ON THE RIVERSIDE REGIONAL JAIL BOARD WITH ME AND ON THE FINANCE COMMITTEE, AND HE HAS INDICATED THEY DO AS AS YOU INDICATED, A BUDGET VACANCY SAVINGS. I'M NOT SURE IF OTHER ANY OTHER COMMUNITY AROUND US DOES THAT, BUT WE CAN WE CAN ANSWER THE QUESTIONS AND HAVE THEM ANSWERED FOR YOU AT THE MEETING. ALL RIGHT. WELL, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. WELL, MAYBE THESE WOULD BE QUESTIONS FOR YOU TO ADDRESS RATHER THAN THE AUDITOR. BUT DURING AS PART OF OUR AGENDA ITEM ON JANUARY 21ST, IF EITHER YOU OR THE AUDITORS WOULD ADDRESS THOSE THREE QUESTIONS, WHAT ARE VACANCY SAVINGS TO? HOW MUCH OF THE 9.3 IS VACANCY SAVINGS IS DUE TO VACANCY SAVINGS, AND THREE, HOW DO. IS THERE A JURISDICTION IN THE AREA THAT TAKES VACANCY SAVINGS INTO ACCOUNT IN ITS BUDGET DELIBERATIONS? IS THAT SOMETHING YOU COULD DO? YES, SIR. OKAY. THAT WOULD BE GREAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. 
          COUNCILMAN JONES. YES. JUST REAL QUICK, MAN. I BELIEVE IN GIVING PROPS WHEN THEY DO TO THE IT DIRECTOR. HE MADE SURE THAT HE LET US KNOW WHO HE WAS AND THAT HE WAS THE IT DIRECTOR. AND I WANT TO SAY THIS TO ALL OF THE EMPLOYEES IN THE CITY. MAKE SURE THAT YOU LEARN EVERY ASPECT OF YOUR JOB, EVERY ASPECT OF YOUR SUPERVISOR'S JOB, AND EVEN LEARN THE ASPECT OF THE PERSON BELOW YOUR JOB, BECAUSE YOU NEVER KNOW WHEN YOU'RE GOING TO BE CALLED UPON TO DO A JOB. AND BUT THE KEY TO THAT IS WORRY ABOUT YOUR OWN JOB. BECAUSE ONE THING WE DON'T WANT TO HEAR IS, I CAN'T DO IT, I WON'T DO IT OR I AIN'T GOING TO DO IT. AND THIS IS A TRUE SIGN OF TEAMWORK FOR THAT DEPARTMENT. SAME THING I SEE IN THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT. SO I APPRECIATE THAT. AND WE ALL APPRECIATE THAT. SO SPREAD THE LOVE AND KEEP IT GOING. AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND FIRE DEPARTMENT. SO YES. CAN'T LEAVE Y'ALL OUT. 
          THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. NEXT WE HAVE ITEM 11 CAPITAL PROJECTS UPDATE NOTHING THIS 
          [13. Streets]
EVENING 12 UTILITIES NOTHING THIS EVENING 13 STREETS, NOTHING TONIGHT. MR. MAYOR. STREETS. 
          OKAY. ADDRESS ONE ISSUE. THERE'S BEEN SEVERAL EMAILS BACK AND FORTH ABOUT CONCERNS WITH VEHICLE CRASHES IN THE 16, 17 AND 1800 BLOCKS OF SOUTH CRATER ROAD. SO WE'VE REVIEWED THOSE CRASHES JUST SO CITIZENS KNOW. SOME ARE, YOU KNOW, FORTUNATELY OR UNFORTUNATELY, DRIVER ERROR. 
          BUT WE DO HAVE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE'LL BE BRINGING, WE CAN BRING FORTH TO COUNCIL FOR IMPROVEMENTS THAT HOPEFULLY WILL ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE ISSUES. THERE WAS A 2015 STUDY DONE IN THE SOUTH CRATER ROAD COURT WELL, CRATER ROAD CORRIDOR ALL THE WAY UP TO WASHINGTON, ALL THE WAY DOWN TO WAGNER. AND ONE OF THOSE COUPLE OF THOSE ITEMS WOULD BE TO PROHIBIT LEFT HAND TURNS ON THE FROM NORTHBOUND CRATER ONTO CLAREMONT, MAYCOCK'S, WEYANOKE AND GLENROY. SO WE'LL BE BRINGING SOME RECOMMENDATIONS TO COUNCIL TO ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE ISSUES HERE IN THE FUTURE. AND I'LL PASS ALONG WHAT WE HAVE AND WHAT WE'VE DONE TO COUNCIL. ALL RIGHT. COUNCILMAN COOPER AND MR. CITY MANAGER, WHEN WILL THAT PRESENTATION BE MADE TO CITY COUNCIL IN THE PUBLIC? WHAT? I'D LIKE TO DO IT AT THE WORK SESSION SO WE CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION OF IT BEFORE WE COME OUT WITH ANY KIND OF ACTIONS THAT WE MIGHT BE NECESSARY. SO I'D SAY THEEBRUARY WORK SESSION. AND JUST AS A POINT OF NOTE, PART OF OUR DISCUSSION THAT THE, THE, THE CLERK AND I HAVE BEEN HAVING IS ABOUT HAVING SOME PRESENTATIONS ON THESE ITEMS THAT ARE AT YOUR WORK SESSION. SO WE DO A LITTLE BIT OF EDUCATION FOR YOU, AND YOU CAN ASK SOME QUESTIONS BEFORE WE GET TO THE PUBLIC HEARING AT THE SECOND MEETING. I THINK IT'S ONE OF THE ITEMS WE'LL TALK ABOUT WITH Y'ALL AT YOUR WORK, YOUR COUNCIL RETREAT. SO JUST AS A WE'LL BE BRINGING THAT, I'D LIKE TO DO IT AT THE WORK SESSION SO WE CAN HAVE A GOOD CONVERSATION ABOUT IT AND THEN GET SOME DIRECTION, AND THEN WE CAN BRING BACK THE ACTION ITEM FOR COUNCIL. ALL RIGHT. WELL THAT'S GREAT. AND MR. MAYOR, IF I MAY ASK A COUPLE OF OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE CITY MANAGER AS PART OF HIS REPORT. MR. CITY MANAGER, YOU RECEIVED, I BELIEVE, AN EMAIL FROM ME ASKING MISS SIODMAK TO CONSIDER SOME ALTERNATE LANGUAGE TO SANDWICH BOARD SIGNS AND SECTION TEN. YES. WOULD YOU ASK HER, PLEASE, TO. SHARE WITH COUNCIL WHAT SHE THINKS ABOUT THAT ALTERNATIVE LANGUAGE WHEN WE WHEN THIS ISSUE COMES UP ON JANUARY 21ST? YEAH, I'VE ALREADY FORWARDED THE LANGUAGE TO HER FOR HER TO REVIEW AND HAVE THAT AS PART OF 
          [02:25:04]
THE PRESENTATION ON THE 21ST. ALL RIGHT. WELL THAT'S GREAT. AND THE OTHER DEALS WITH THE FIELD HOUSE. MR. CITY MANAGER, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE HAVE THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION FOR COUNCIL ON JANUARY 21ST, SO THAT WE'D BE IN A POSITION TO MAKE A DECISION. ONE FIRST QUESTION, HOW MUCH HAS THE COMMITTEE RAISED? I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE CREDIT UNION MONEY THAT WAS GIVEN TO THE CITY OR THE CITY'S MONEY, BUT ASIDE FROM THE CREDIT UNION MONEY AND THE CITY'S MONEY, HOW MUCH HAS THE COMMITTEE RAISED? I'D LIKE TO ALSO QUESTION TWO. WHAT IS THE COMMITTEE DONE IN AN EFFORT TO RAISE AT LEAST HALF OF THE ANTICIPATED COST OF $5.7 MILLION, AND THIRD QUESTION IS, WHAT IS THE COMMITTEE'S GAME PLAN TO RAISE MONEY FROM AN ENTITY OTHER THAN THE CITY GOING FORWARD? I AM TOTALLY IN FAVOR OF THE FIELD HOUSE, BUT THIS WAS PRESENTED TO US AS A JOINT EFFORT, AND I DON'T WANT TO LOSE SIGHT OF THAT. AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE HAD A NUMBER, JUST AS AN EXAMPLE, A NUMBER OF SUPERSTARS COME OUT OF PETERSBURG. I DON'T KNOW WHETHER WE'VE APPROACHED THEM ABOUT HELPING US GET WHAT FOR THEM, I SUSPECT, IS A CHUMP CHANGE IN ORDER TO COMPLETE THIS FIELD HOUSE. BUT THAT'S JUST ONE ONE POSSIBLE SOURCE. IN ANY EVENT, MR. CITY MANAGER, I'M TOTALLY IN FAVOR OF THE FIELD HOUSE. I WANT TO SEE IT HAPPEN. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT BEING A JOINT EFFORT. AND IF YOU COULD HAVE ANSWERS TO THOSE QUESTIONS WHEN WE MEET ON JANUARY 21ST, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. ALL RIGHT, 
          [16. City Manager's Agenda]
COUNCILMAN JONES. YES. MR. CITY MANAGER, GOING BACK TO YOUR CREATOR ROAD AND IT CRASHES AND ALL THAT. I TOTALLY AGREE ON PROHIBITING THE LEFT TURN ONTO CLAREMONT, BUT WE NEED TO ALSO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO IT FOR THE LEFT TURN GOING INTO FORT MAHONE OR ANYTHING THAT DOES NOT HAVE A TURNING LANE, BECAUSE THOSE ARE ACCIDENTS, NOT JUST WAITING TO HAPPEN, THEY'VE ALREADY HAPPENED. SO THE OVERALL, WHAT I DIDN'T SAY WAS THE OVERALL RECOMMENDATION IS TO REMOVE THOSE SPLITS IN THE MEDIAN. SO YOU DON'T YOU CAN'T MAKE THOSE TURNS. THAT'S THE OVERALL RECOMMENDATION THAT COMES OUT OF THAT 2015 PLAN. IMMEDIATELY. THE QUESTION AND THE CONCERN HAS BEEN AROUND CLAREMONT, BECAUSE WE'VE HAD SOME ACCIDENTS THAT HAVE AFFECTED THE PROPERTY OWNER THERE. BUT ULTIMATELY THAT'S WHY WE WANT TO HAVE THE WORK SESSION, BECAUSE WE MAY WANT TO LOOK AT PUTTING BOLLARDS IN PLACE IN THE SHORT TERM TO PROHIBIT LEFT HAND TURNS, BECAUSE PEOPLE CAN USE OAKLAND TO GET UP AND UP AND BACK THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD WITH STOP SIGNS AS OPPOSED TO MAKING THOSE TURNS. SO THAT'S PART OF WHAT WE'LL TALK ABOUT WITH YOU ALL. OKAY, MY NEXT QUESTION AND THE LAST ONE IS WE TALKED ABOUT IT LAST YEAR, THE AMOUNT OF LIGHTS OVER THERE RIGHT OFF OF OLD WAGNER ROAD, MY CONSTITUENT IS BEATING ME DOWN ABOUT THAT. 
          AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE MAKE IT CLEAR THAT THAT LIGHT WAS THERE AT ONE TIME. AND WHEN THEY WHEN THE POLE FELL DOWN, IT WAS NEVER REPLACED. AND THE LIGHTS IN THE NEW SUBDIVISION THAT NEVER GOT PUT UP AT ALL. SO WE LOOK AT THAT, WE'RE WORKING ON THE LIGHTS IN THE NEW SUBDIVISION. WE'RE WORKING TO GET THE DEVELOPER TO GET THOSE INSTALLED. WE'RE WORKING WITH DOMINION TO GET THAT APPLICATION PUT IN. SO WE'VE BEEN BACK AND FORTH WITH THE DEVELOPER ON MAKING SURE THAT HAPPENS. AND THEN THE EXISTING LIGHT THAT WE HAVE TO REPLACE, IN ADDITION TO LOOKING AT SOME ADDITIONAL LIGHTING ON THAT OLD WAGNER ROAD AREA WHERE WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH DOMINION ON THAT ALSO. SO WE'RE WE KNOW IT'S NOT HAPPENING, BUT TO SOME DEGREE, WE'VE WE GIVE DOMINION A LITTLE BIT OF GRACE WHEN THE ISSUES HAPPEN IN THE WESTERN PART OF THE STATE WITH THE HURRICANE AND EVERYBODY'S ALL THE RESOURCES WENT OUT THERE. SO WE'RE NOW THAT THEY'RE GETTING BACK IN PLACE, WE'RE PICKING UP THOSE CONVERSATIONS TO GET THOSE THINGS DONE FOR Y'ALL. CAN YOU HAVE AN UPDATE AT THE NEXT MEETING ABOUT THOSE LIGHTS? YES, SIR. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THAT'S ALL I GOT, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. NEXT UNDER ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT MORE ANYTHING TONIGHT? THE PRESENTATIONS WE HAVE TONIGHT. ARE YOU DONE IN FEBRUARY? OKAY. THANK YOU. CITY MANAGER AGENDA. MR. ALDERMAN, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING? I JUST WANT TO THANK THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT FOR THEIR EFFORTS DURING THE RECENT SNOWSTORM. 
          WE'RE PROBABLY LOOKING AT ANOTHER SNOW ON FRIDAY INTO SATURDAY. THAT MIGHT ACTUALLY BE A LITTLE BIT MORE SNOW. THIS ONE. THIS TIME STORMS COMING FROM THE SOUTH WITH SOME MOISTURE. BUT I DO WANT TO THANK THEM FOR THEIR EFFORTS TO GET OUT AND GET THE STREETS CLEANED. 
          I KNOW OVERNIGHT WE HAD SOME STREET CLOSURES AS A RESULT OF THE ICE AND THE SNOW, BUT BY THE NEXT MORNING ALL THOSE WERE CLEARED AND THE STREETS WERE PASSABLE. AND TODAY THEY LOOK PRETTY GOOD, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF A COUPLE PLACES WHERE THERE'S SHADOWS ON THE STREET ALL DAY LONG. WE STILL HAD A LITTLE BIT OF ICE THIS MORNING, BUT THAT AND ALWAYS WITH PD AND FIRE 
          [02:30:05]
RESPONDING UNDER THOSE CONDITIONS. WE'LL THANK THEM FOR BEING OUT ALL NIGHT AND ALSO PROVIDING THE SITREPS. THAT WAS VERY HELPFUL AS WE MOVE THROUGH THE DAY. SO I JUST WANTED TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW, SAY THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. NEXT BUSINESS REPORTS FROM THE CLERK, MISS HILL. ANYTHING TONIGHT? YES, MAYOR. I JUST WANT TO REMIND THE PUBLIC THAT WE'RE STILL ACCEPTING APPLICATIONS FOR THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY BOARD, AS WELL AS SOCIAL SERVICES ADVISORY BOARD AND THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT. SO IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN SERVING, PLEASE SUBMIT YOUR APPLICATIONS TO ME. 
          APPLICATIONS ARE AVAILABLE ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. NEXT BUSINESS REPORTS FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY, MR. WILLIAMS. ANYTHING TONIGHT? NO REPORT, MR. MAYOR. ALL RIGHT. 
          NEXT IS ITEM 19. ADJOURNMENT. ALL IN FAVOR? HI. IT'S ME. ADJOURNED.
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