Feb 18, 2025 Regular City Council Meeting

CARRIES. ALL RIGHT. THAT CONCLUDES OUR CLOSED SESSION, AND MEETING IS ADJOURNED. ALL

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[1. Roll Call]

HERE. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER. JONES. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER. MYERS. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER.

WESTBROOK. PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER. SMITH. LEE. PRESENT. VICE MAYOR. HILL. HERE. MAYOR.

PERRY. HERE. SO YOU HAVE A QUORUM. NEXT, VICE MAYOR HILL WILL LEAD US IN OUR OPENING PRAYER. LET US PRAY. ETERNAL GOD, OUR FATHER, ONCE AGAIN, WE COME BEFORE YOU, GIVING YOUR NAME, HONOR, PRAISE, AND GLORY. WE THANK YOU FOR THIS DAY. WE THANK YOU FOR THE BLESSINGS OF THE DAY. NOW, LORD, WE ASK THAT YOU BE WITH US AS WE GO THROUGH THIS MEETING. HEAVENLY FATHER, DOING THE BUSINESS OF YOUR CITY. HEAVENLY FATHER, WE ASK THAT YOU GUIDE AND STRENGTHEN US AND GIVE US WISDOM ON HOW TO MAKE DECISIONS THAT ARE PROPER IN YOUR EYESIGHT THAT WILL LEAD THE PEOPLE OF PETERSBURG TO HIGHER HEIGHTS AND DEEPER DEPTHS IN YOU. HEAVENLY FATHER, WE ASK THAT BLESSINGS UPON THE SICK, THE AFFLICTED ALL OVER THIS LAND, BUT MORE ESPECIALLY IN PETERSBURG. WE ASK THAT YOU WOULD BE WITH OUR YOUTH, HEAVENLY FATHER, AND OUR SENIORS AS WELL. LORD, BE WITH OUR ADMINISTRATORS AND ALL OUR EMPLOYEES. HEAVENLY FATHER, KEEP US SAFE DURING THIS STORM. HEAVENLY FATHER, AND LET NO HURT, HARM, NOR DANGER COME NEAR ANY OF US. LET US SEE. NO ACCIDENTS, CAUSED NO ACCIDENTS, OR BE IN NO ACCIDENTS. IT'S IN YOUR NAME. WE PRAY AND WE THANK YOU. AMEN. AMEN. ASK EVERYONE TO PLEASE STAND AND JOIN US IN OUR PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND

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[5. Proclamations/Recognitions/Presentation of Ceremonial Proclamations]

MY HUSBAND ISN'T FEELING WELL TODAY, SO I'M GOING TO. WE ARE GOING TO ACCEPT. THE FAMILY IS GOING TO ACCEPT HIS THE PROCLAMATION ON HIS BEHALF. OKAY. THAT'S OKAY WITH YOU? YES YES YES YES YES YES. OH, GOD. I. THINK CONGRATULATIONS VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. I'M SURE YOU WILL.

THANK YOU. CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU.

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THANK YOU. WELCOME. OH. THANK YOU. OH. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. NEXT IS OUR PROCLAMATION HONORING HARRY BETTS. WHEREAS HARRY BETTS MADE HISTORY AS THE FIRST BLACK PATROLMAN ASSIGNED TO THE PETERSBURG POLICE DEPARTMENT SINCE THE TURN OF THE CENTURY, BREAKING BARRIERS AND PAVING THE WAY FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS IN LAW ENFORCEMENT. AND WHEREAS THE LICENSED BAPTIST MINISTER HARRY BETTS, EXEMPLIFIES THE VALUES OF SERVICE, LEADERSHIP AND DEDICATION TO HIS COMMUNITY, EMBODYING THE SPIRIT OF PUBLIC SERVICE BOTH IN HIS FAITH AND HIS PROFESSIONAL ENDEAVORS. AND WHEREAS, AS AN 11.5 YEAR VETERAN OF THE UNITED STATES AIR FORCE, MR. BASS HONORABLY SERVED HIS COUNTRY DURING THE KOREAN WAR AND IN BOTH EUROPEAN AND PACIFIC MILITARY THEATERS, DEMONSTRATING EXCEPTIONAL BRAVERY AND COMMITMENT TO DUTY. WHEREAS HARRY BETTS MADE HISTORY AS THE FIRST BLACK INDIVIDUAL IN THE CITY'S HISTORY TO ANNOUNCE HIS CANDIDACY FOR THE CITY COUNCIL IN VIRGINIA BEACH, SHOWCASING HIS COMMITMENT TO CIVIC ENGAGEMENT AND COMMUNITY REPRESENTATION. AND WHEREAS, THROUGH HIS TIRELESS EFFORTS AND PIONEERING SPIRIT, HARRY L BATES HAS INSPIRED COUNTLESS INDIVIDUALS IN PETERSBURG AND BEYOND TO STRIVE FOR EQUALITY, JUSTICE, AND COMMUNITY SERVICE. AND THEREFORE, I, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF PETERSBURG AND THE CITY COUNCIL OF PETERSBURG, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM THIS DAY IN HONOR OF HARRY L BATES, RECOGNIZING HIS GROUNDBREAKING ACHIEVEMENT AND HIS UNWAVERING DEDICATION TO SERVING OUR COMMUNITY. HIS LEGACY WILL CONTINUE TO INSPIRE FUTURE LEADERS AND ADVOCATES FOR JUSTICE. IN WITNESS THEREOF, WE HAVE AND TO SET OUR HANDS AND CAUSE THE SEAL OF THE CITY OF PETERSBURG TO BE AFFIXED. THIS 18TH DAY OF FEBRUARY, 2025. THE MEMBERS OF MISTER BETTS FAMILY.

THANK YOU. ALL, INSIST THAT YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. GOOD MAN. GIVE IT UP. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THIS IS NOT HIM. OH. THAT'S RIGHT. MY UNCLE. YEAH. YES. OKAY. WONDERFUL. I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE THAT. YOU WANT TO SAY A FEW WORDS? NO, NO, NO. I'M GOOD. OKAY. GOOD TO SEE YOU, SIR. CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SO. THANK YOU. AND THAT'S ALL COLOR. THANK YOU. OKAY. AND NEXT WE HAVE UNDER PRESENTATIONS. WE HAVE A SPECIAL PRESENTATION TONIGHT BY MISTER MICHAEL ROBINSON, SENIOR, WHO'S CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER OF THE FBI. LEADERSHIP, COURAGE AND KNOWLEDGE. MISTER ROBINSON. YES.

ALL RIGHT. FIRST OF ALL, GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR PARHAM. GOOD EVENING, VICE MAYOR DARREN HILL. AND DISTINGUISHED COUNCIL MEMBERS. AS WELL AS CITY MANAGER JOHN ALTMAN. I'M HERE THIS EVENING TO PRESENT WHAT WE REFER TO AS THE FBI TRILOGY AWARD. THE TRILOGY AWARD IS NOT JUST GIVEN OUT WILLINGLY. THESE AWARDS ARE PROVIDED TO LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES, REALLY AROUND THE COUNTRY. WHO HAVE COMMITTED THEMSELVES TO LEADERSHIP EXCELLENCE. THESE LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES HAVE COMMITTED TO TAKING WHAT WE REFER TO AS OUR TRILOGY COURSES. THESE COURSES ARE MEANT TO CHANGE, HOPEFULLY POSITIVELY, THE CULTURE OF LAW ENFORCEMENT AROUND THE COUNTRY. WHAT IT MEANS WHEN YOU RECEIVE THE FBI LEAD A AWARD IS THAT ALL OF YOUR COMMAND STAFF MEMBERS HAVE TAKEN OUR FBI LEADER TRILOGY COURSES.

THAT MEANS EVERYONE WHO'S IN A COMMAND LEADERSHIP POSITION FOR THE PETERSBURG POLICE DEPARTMENT, INCLUDING THE CHIEF, HAVE TAKEN WHAT WE REFER TO AS OUR SUPERVISORY LEADERSHIP

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THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AWESOME. THAT'S GREAT. THAT'S A GOOD. OKAY. AWESOME. AWESOME. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK. YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THAT MAY ONLY BE UP ABOUT THIS AWARD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. MR. ROBINSON AND. AND OUR MEN AND WOMEN OF THE FABULOUS PETERSBURG BUREAU. POLICE CHIEF. CHRISTIAN. GREAT WORK, AS ALWAYS. JUST WANT TO THANK. THANK YOU GUYS. HAVE AN OUTSTANDING DEPARTMENT. AND WE APPRECIATE ALL THAT YOU DO. COUNCILMAN JONES. YES. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I DON'T KNOW IF THE PUBLIC UNDERSTAND HOW MEANINGFUL THIS AWARD IS. IT'S NOT JUST A PLAQUE GIVEN, YOU KNOW, IN THIS CITY FOR THE PAST TEN YEARS, WE AVERAGED ABOUT 20 MURDERS A YEAR. JUST LAST YEAR, BROKE THAT UNDER. WE KEPT IT UNDER. AND I WANT TO SAY IT WAS MAYBE UNDER TEN. UNDER 11, 11.

AND THIS AWARD IS FROM THE HARD WORK OF THE MEN AND WOMEN IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE COMMUNITY WHO ARE NOW SEEING SOMETHING AND SAYING SOMETHING. SO JUST LIKE YOU SAID, THIS AWARD IS FOR EVERYBODY. BUT HAVE YOU GUYS NOTICED IF YOU WATCH SOCIAL MEDIA, ANYTHING LIKE THAT, ANYTIME THERE'S A CRIME IN THIS CITY, YOU CAN READ IT. AND THEN THE NEXT DAY THEY CAUGHT.

THAT'S WHAT WE WANT IN THIS CITY AND THAT'S WHAT WE GOT. THEY'RE NOT PERFECT. I WANT ALL Y'ALL TO UNDERSTAND THAT THEY'RE NOT PERFECT, BUT THEY STRIVE FOR PERFECTION EVERY CHANCE THEY GET. AND THEY DON'T MIND BEING HELD ACCOUNTABLE. I'LL BE THE FIRST ONE TO HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE, BUT THEY DON'T MIND BEING HELD ACCOUNTABLE BECAUSE THEY ALREADY STRIVING FOR PERFECTION. AND I CAN'T TELL YOU GUYS ENOUGH. THANK YOU FOR KEEPING OUR COMMUNITY STRAIGHT.

THANK YOU. PERFECT. ALL RIGHT. NEXT WE HAVE ITEM SIX WHICH IS RESPONSES TO PREVIOUS PUBLIC

[7. Approval of Consent Agenda]

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COUNCIL MEMBER. MYERS. COUNCIL MEMBER. WESTBROOK. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER. LEE. AYE. VICE MAYOR.

[8. Official Public Hearings]

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THANK YOU. OKAY. OKAY. SEEING NO MORE HANDS, THIS PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED. LET'S GO TO DISCUSSION BY MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. COUNCILMAN JONES. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. MISS NAOMI. YES.

THIS GROUP. ON AVERAGE, HOW MUCH TIME DO YOU GIVE PLACES LIKE THIS TO CLEAN UP THE ACT? SURE.

GENERALLY, OUR PROCESS IS THAT WE FIRST SPEAK TO THEM. THEN WE HAVE A LETTER OF VIOLATION. IF THE CONVERSATION DOESN'T WORK OUT, THAT GIVES THEM 30 DAYS TO ADDRESS THE VIOLATION. THEN IF THEY DO WORK WITH US AND THEY NEED ADDITIONAL TIME, WE WORK WITH THAT. BUT THE TYPICAL TIMELINE IS 30 DAYS PLUS AN ADDITIONAL LETTER SAYING YOU HAVE TEN MORE DAYS, AND THEN WE USUALLY TAKE THEM TO COURT. IN THIS CASE, WE HAD THIS OTHER ROUTE WE COULD GO. SO WE TOOK IT FORWARD WITH THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT RESCISSION INSTEAD. I'M GLAD YOU SAID THAT BECAUSE. YOU SAID YOU WORK WITH THEM AND YOU GIVE THEM 30 DAYS AND TEN MORE DAYS. WE'RE LIKE THE YOUNG MAN SAID IT WAS FROM JUNE TO NOW. BUT MY QUESTION IS, DID YOU WORK WITH THEM KNOWING YOU WAS GOING TO TRY TO REMOVE THIS PERMIT? WHEN? AT WHAT POINT DID YOU KNOW YOU WAS GOING TO COME TO US AND SAY, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THIS PERMIT FROM NOW? THEY DON'T CLEAN UP THEIR ACT? FROM THE PICTURES. AND DID THEY WORK WITH YOU UNDER THE ASSUMPTION THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO KEEP OUR WE'LL BE ABLE TO KEEP OUR PERMIT. HOW DID THAT CONVERSATION GO? I DON'T LIKE TRICKERY. I DON'T WANT US TO BE WORKING WITH PEOPLE OUT THERE SAYING, WE'RE GOING TO WORK WITH YOU. THEN WE GO BEHIND THE SCENE OR COME TO US AND SAY, WE WANT TO TAKE THAT PERMIT. SO WHEN THEY CLEAR THAT YOU THAT THEY KNOW YOU WAS GOING TO DO THIS TODAY, IS THERE A LETTER SAYING WE'RE GOING TO REVOKE YOUR PERMIT? THEY DO GET NOTIFIED OF THIS SPECIAL USE PERMIT RESCISSION. YES. THERE'S DEFINITELY A LETTER THAT GOES TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS. WE TREAT IT JUST LIKE IF YOU'RE GRANTING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS ARE NOTIFIED. IT GOES THROUGH THE SAME PROCESS OF A SPECIAL USE PERMIT AND AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PROCESS. NO, WE DIDN'T THINK WE WERE GOING TO RESCIND THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT. THE BEGINNING OF THE PROCESS. WE TREAT IT LIKE ANY OTHER VIOLATION. IF WE CAN WORK WITH THEM TO GET THE ABANDONED VEHICLES OFF THE PROPERTY, THE DEBRIS OFF THE PROPERTY, IF THAT CAN BE ADDRESSED, WE'RE GOLDEN. THE PROBLEM IS WE COULDN'T GET IT ADDRESSED IN A NORMAL ROUTE. AND WE HAVE THIS CHANNEL WHERE IF THEY'RE VIOLATING THE CONDITIONS THAT ARE ESTABLISHED, WE CAN COME BEFORE YOU AND TAKE THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT AWAY. SO.

SO I KNOW I'M JUST ASKING BECAUSE I'M NOT DEFENDING ANYTHING. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE TREATING THE PEOPLE ACROSS THE BOARD FAIR. SO MY YOU SAID ONE OF THE VIOLATIONS WERE THEY HAD IN-APPS ON THE PARKING LOT FOR MORE THAN THREE DAYS. SO IF IT'S AN AUTO BODY SHOP, IT'D TAKE MORE THAN THREE DAYS FOR PAINT TO DRY. IF IT'S A MECHANIC SHOP, IT'D TAKE MORE THAN THREE DAYS TO CHANGE A TRANSMISSION OR A MOTOR. SO WHY? WHY, SURE. THESE ARE VEHICLES THAT HAVE BEEN ON THE PROPERTY FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME. SO LIKE THAT BOX TRUCK THAT I SHOWED A PICTURE OF THAT HAD BEEN SITTING THERE FOR A SIGNIFICANT PERIOD OF TIME. THE INTENTION OF THAT BOX TRUCK WAS ACTUALLY TO DETER PEOPLE FROM CUTTING THROUGH THE DRIVEWAY. SO IT WASN'T EVEN IT WAS JUST THERE AS A BARRIER. MY LAST QUESTION IS WHY HAVEN'T WE TAKEN THEM TO COURT? I THINK WHEN IT COMES TO OUR ZONING AND OUR CODE, WE NEED TO BE IN COURT AS OFTEN AS POSSIBLE. YOU KNOW, BEFORE IT COMES ON OFF OUR LAP. I MEAN, WHY DIDN'T WE TAKE THEM TO COURT A LONG TIME AGO, AFTER THE 30 DAYS WAS UP AND THEN TEN MORE DAYS? SURE. UNFORTUNATELY, WE'RE STILL WORKING OUT THE BEST COURT PROCESS FOR EVERYONE TO WORK OUT. THIS ISN'T THE NUMBER ONE PRIORITY WHEN WE HAVE THINGS LIKE BURGLARIES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT THAT NEED TO BE DELIVERED ADDRESSED. SO WHEN WE HAVE A SUMMONS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, SOMETIMES WE'RE NOT GETTING THIS DONE AS TIMELY AS WE'D LIKE. THIS ROUTE IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE FULL CONTROL OVER, THAT WE CAN ADDRESS IN A TIMELY MANNER. UNDERSTOOD. LAST ONE IS HOW MANY OTHER SHOPS IN THE CITY ARE YOU ADDRESSING THIS ISSUE WITH? BECAUSE I SEE A LOT OF SHOPS IN THE CITY WITH CARS SITTING ON THE DRIVEWAY, CARS SITTING ON THE SIDEWALKS. AND THESE, THESE, IT'S ALL OVER THE CITY, SO THIS SHOULDN'T BE THE ONLY ONE COMING BEFORE US. SO HOW MANY MORE DO YOU HAVE ON YOUR DOCKET? I DON'T

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OKAY. COUNCILMAN MYERS. YEAH. MR. MARK, JUST. WHEN DID WE INITIATE THE REQUEST FOR THEM TO REMOVE THESE VEHICLES? WE STARTED WORKING WITH THEM IN JULY. YEAH, AND I RECALL THAT I BELIEVE THAT MR. STANLEY CALLED ME AND MENTIONED TO ME THAT SOME OF THE VEHICLES, HE COULD NOT MOVE BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE PARTS OR SPECIFIC PARTS FOR THE BUS TO BE REMOVED THERE. BUT AT THIS PARTICULAR JUNCTURE, SO ARE YOU ASKING US TO DECIDE WHETHER WE'RE GOING TO ALLOW THEM TO MAINTAIN THEIR PERMIT OR DENY THE PERMIT? BUT THEY HAVE SINCE CLEANED UP. SO NOW LET'S LET'S LET'S ASK THE SERIOUS QUESTION RIGHT NOW, WHAT IS THE INTENT OF USE IF WE APPROVE MOVING FORWARD? AND IS THIS SITUATION GOING TO COME ABOUT AGAIN. SO MAYBE THE PETITIONER NEEDS TO SPEAK TO THE COUNCIL IF THEY'RE HERE. I DO NOT BELIEVE THEY'RE HERE, BUT THEY WERE NOTIFIED OF THE MEETING. OKAY. AND I'LL YIELD MY TIME. IF THE MAYOR DOESN'T MIND TO COUNCILWOMAN. THAT'S HER WARD. ALL RIGHT. YES, BUT CAN I ASK. BUT, MISS SIDE MARK, I NEED YOUR OPINION AS WELL. PLEASE. YOUR RECORD FOR THIS PROPERTY. FOR THIS PROPERTY, WE DID WHAT WE NEEDED TO DO. WE WANTED THE PROPERTY TO BE CLEANED UP. WE WANTED THE CONDITIONS ADDRESSED.

SO IF YOU ALL WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE THE OPERATION OF THIS VEHICLE RENTAL BUSINESS AND AUTO BODY SHOP, IT'S BEEN CLEANED UP. AND THAT WAS OUR BIGGEST CONCERN AND WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO ADDRESS THROUGH THIS PROCESS. MR. MAYOR, JUST JUST FOR CLARITY, IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO WHAT MISS MARK IS RECOMMENDING, THEN YOU WOULD MOVE TO DENY THE REVOCATION. IF YOU WANT TO TAKE THEIR ABILITY TO CONTINUE THE USE, THEN YOU WOULD APPROVE IT. BUT SHE'S ASKING OR SUGGESTING YOU MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER DENYING THE REVOCATION. OKAY. THANK YOU. ARE YOU OKAY? COUNCILMAN SMITH? OKAY, SO. I DRIVE BY THERE ALL THE TIME. IN THE BEGINNING, WHEN THEY FIRST STARTED, PLACE LOOKED REALLY GOOD, BUT THEN WENT ON, IT JUST KEPT GETTING WORSE AND WORSE.

AND SO WHEN YOU DRIVE BY THAT GOOD. IF THEY'RE GOING TO KEEP IT PRESENTABLE. YES. WE'RE TRYING TO MOVE IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION, ESPECIALLY ON THAT, THAT THAT PART OF, OF WASHINGTON STREET, BECAUSE WE'VE HAD SOME SERIOUS ISSUES ABOUT THINGS NOT LOOKING GOOD, YOU KNOW. SO IF THEY'RE GOING TO KEEP IT UP. YES. OKAY. COUNCILMAN COOPER, THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. MISS YARD MARK, WE'VE GOT AS SOMEONE HERE HAS SAID, WE'VE GOT PROBLEMS ALL OVER TOWN THAT ARE LIKE THE PROBLEMS AT THIS ADDRESS IN JULY OF 2020 FOR TWO EXAMPLES, 112 NORTH CRATER ROAD. I'VE BEEN ASKING FOR ZONING. THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR, YOUR DEPARTMENT TO MR. CITY MANAGER. PERHAPS I SHOULD DIRECT MY COMMENTS TO YOU, BUT I'VE BEEN ASKING THAT YOUR STAFF ADDRESS THE ZONING VIOLATIONS AT 112 NORTH CRATER ROAD EVER SINCE THIS CITY COUNCIL DENIED PERMISSION FOR. I THINK IT WAS A USED CAR OPERATION AT THAT ADDRESS. AND INSTEAD WE'VE GOT THAT PROPERTY.

CHOCK A BLOCK FILLED WITH USED CARS. AND IT'S BEEN THAT WAY. AND I KEEP ASKING. I HAVE ASKED SEVERAL TIMES THAT ZONING ENFORCE OUR ZONING LAW AT THAT ADDRESS, AND IT'S NOT HAPPENED.

THIS IS BLANDFORD. IT'S IN THE FOURTH WARD. IT'S IMPORTANT. IT'S IMPORTANT TO THE SELF-ESTEEM OF THE RESIDENTS OF BLANDFORD. AND I WONDER IF YOU WOULD BE GOOD ENOUGH TO DIRECT STAFF TO ENFORCE OUR ZONING ORDINANCE AT THAT ADDRESS. SO I WOULD SAY A COUPLE OF THINGS.

ONE, LET'S SEE WHAT STAFF MAY ALREADY BE OUT DOING AND WORKING THE PROCESS, BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW AT THIS POINT. WHEN COUNCILOR JONES ASKED, WE'LL LOOK INTO THAT AND IF NOT, WE WILL. WE CAN GO OUT AND TAKE A LOOK. ALL RIGHT. WELL, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. AND ALSO SIMILAR

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AND THOSE TWO PROBLEMS NEED TO BE ADDRESSED. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING MORE TO SAY ABOUT THAT.

I THINK I'VE PUT THE SPOTLIGHT ON IT, AND I APPRECIATE IF YOU WOULD PUT SOME SPECIAL ATTENTION ON THOSE TWO LOCATIONS. THANK YOU. THANK THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. NEXT, COUNCILMAN SMITH. THANK YOU. NAOMI, YOU KNOW, I, I DIDN'T KNOW THAT HE WAS GOING TO GET INTO. WE NEED TO JUST GO AHEAD ON AND COMPLETE THIS. IF THE OWNERS ARE GOING TO KEEP THE PROPERTY UP, THEN YES. IF NOT, THEN I CAN'T. I CAN'T ACCEPT IT. I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE DENY THE CONDITIONS THAT WE ARE PLACED ON THIS PARTICULAR BUSINESS. IN THE EVENT IF IT RETURNS BACK IN VIOLATION, THAT WE WILL DENY THEIR LICENSE AND THEY WILL NOT BE ABLE TO DO BUSINESS IN PETERSBURG. THAT'S MY MOTION. SO FOR CLARIFICATION, YOU VOTE TO DENY REVOKING THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT, BUT SHOULD THEY VIOLATE THE CONDITIONS? AGAIN, WE WOULD TAKE IT AWAY, BRING IT BACK FOR REVOCATION AGAIN. YEAH. BRING IT BACK. YES. SECOND. YEAH. COUNCILMAN MEYERS, SECOND MOTION, A SECOND DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION. SEEING NONE. MISS HILL, COULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL COUNCIL MEMBER CUTHBERT? AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER. JONES. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER. MYERS. COUNCIL MEMBER. WEST. COUNCIL MEMBER. LEE. AYE. VICE MAYOR. HILL. AYE. MAYOR. PERRY A MOTION. THANK YOU. NEXT IS ITEM EIGHT B, A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE TO APPROVE A REQUEST BY VIRGINIA ELECTRIC AND POWER COMPANY, DBA DOMINION ENERGY, TO REZONE WITH PROFFERS PROPERTY AT 33, 45, 33, 39 AND 3311 WEST WASHINGTON STREET, PARCEL. D0270100102701003 AND 027010004 FROM THE R-2 SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE AND B2 GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT TO M-1 LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT. MISS MARK. THANK YOU MAYOR. SO HERE YOU CAN SEE THE SUBJECT PROPERTIES.

THEY'RE LOCATED ON WASHINGTON STREET RIGHT NEXT TO THE CITY'S BORDER ON WEST WASHINGTON. SO AGAIN, THE REQUEST HERE IS TO REZONE TO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL TO EXPAND THE EXISTING DOMINION ENERGY STORAGE AND MAINTENANCE FACILITIES. THE PROPERTIES WERE LISTED BY THE MAYOR. 33113345 WEST WASHINGTON AND 33339 WEST WASHINGTON AS WELL. THOSE ARE ZONED B2 AND R-2 CURRENTLY, RESPECTIVELY. FOR THIS WE ALSO HAVE 11 PROFFERS FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION, SO YOU CAN SEE THE EXISTING CONDITIONS OF THIS PROPERTY. RIGHT NOW IT'S NOT BEING UTILIZED. CURRENTLY. THE PROPOSED USE AGAIN IS EXPANSION OF THE EXISTING DOMINION POWER FACILITY. THE SITE WOULD BE A GRAVEL STORAGE YARD WITH SECURITY FENCING. NO NEW BUILDINGS ARE PROPOSED ON THE SITE. THE ENTRANCES ALONG WEST WASHINGTON STREET WILL BE REDUCED TO ONE, AND WETLANDS WILL BE SECTIONED OFF FROM THE DEVELOPMENT. HERE YOU CAN SEE WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED, AND WE'LL TALK MORE ABOUT THIS A LITTLE BIT WHILE WE TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE PROFFERS. WE REALLY WORKED WITH THE APPLICANT TO SEE HOW WE CAN GET CLOSEST TO WHAT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN RECOMMENDS.

HOW CAN WE MAKE A GRAVEL STORAGE YARD AS APPEALING FROM THE PEDESTRIAN REALM AND VEHICULAR REALM AS POSSIBLE? SO YOU'LL SEE HERE THERE'S LANDSCAPING. THERE'S GOING TO BE DECORATIVE SECURITY FENCING. THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOCATION FOR PUBLIC ART AS WELL. SO THESE ARE SOME

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WE GOT THE DIFFERENT LANDSCAPING. THEY'RE ALSO GOING TO PUT PEDESTRIAN LIGHTING PER THEIR PROFFERS. AND HERE ARE THOSE PROFFERS AS MENTIONED. SO THAT 30 FOOT BUFFER ALONG WEST WASHINGTON STREET WITH SIDEWALK LANDSCAPING, SIGNAGE AND LIGHTING. YOU CAN SEE HOW THAT LANDSCAPING IS BROKEN DOWN, WHERE THE DECIDUOUS TREES WILL BE, WHERE THE EVERGREEN TREES WILL BE, AND SHRUBS, AND THOSE WILL BE NONINVASIVE, NATIVE, DROUGHT RESISTANT PLANTINGS.

THEY EIGHT FOOT WIDE SIDEWALK WILL ALSO BE INSTALLED ON WEST WASHINGTON STREET. EXISTING POLE MOUNTED STREET LIGHTS THAT ARE GEARED TOWARDS VEHICLES WILL BE REPLACED WITH MORE ORNAMENTAL PEDESTRIAN SCALE LIGHTING AS WELL. FOR THE FIVE ENTRANCES OUT THERE WILL BE CLOSED, SO THERE WILL ONLY BE ONE ENTRANCE TO THE SITE. SO KIND OF REMOVING SOME OF THE ACCESS, INGRESS AND EGRESS CONCERNS FROM THE SITE. THERE WILL ALSO BE AN EIGHT FOOT TALL ORNAMENTAL SECURITY FENCE INSTALLED ALONG THE PERIMETER OF THE YARD. PROPERTY OWNER WILL ALSO DEDICATE A 30 FOOT BY 40 FOOT EASEMENT, AND THAT'S FOR US TO HAVE A CONVERSATION AND WORK TOGETHER IF WE'RE INTERESTED IN LOCATING PUBLIC ART THERE. THE SITE WILL BE LIMITED TO USES AS WELL. ONLY BE TWO COMMERCIAL USES OR THIS USE HERE. GENERAL WHOLESALE STORAGE AND DISTRIBUTION USES. SO THEY WON'T BE REZONING TO M-1 WITH ALL OF THE ALLOWABLE USES. THEY WILL BE LIMITING IT TO THESE ONES TO MAKE IT SO WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF PEACE OF MIND OF WHAT CAN HAPPEN ON THIS PROPERTY.

SIGNAGE, OF COURSE, WILL CONFORM WITH THE ZONING ORDINANCE. STORMWATER WILL BE OWNED AND MAINTAINED BY THE APPLICANT AND THEY'LL HAVE TO, OF COURSE, COMPLY WITH THESE PROFFERS THAT WE'RE SHOWING HERE. YOU CAN SEE THE ADJACENT ZONING RIGHT HERE AS WELL. RIGHT TO THE NORTH IS INDUSTRIAL ZONING, RIGHT ALONG WEST WASHINGTON. IT'S ALREADY INDUSTRIAL. THEY'RE CHANGING THOSE BE TWO PROPERTIES AND THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY TO CONTINUE THAT INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CONSIDERATIONS. SO THIS AREA IS RECOGNIZED AS CORRIDOR COMMERCIAL AND THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP. IT SHOULD HAVE COMMERCIAL, RETAIL, MULTIFAMILY.

IT SHOULD BE WALKABLE AND PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED, ORIENTED AS WELL AS PROVIDE GOODS AND SERVICES. IT'S ALSO IDENTIFIED AS OUR GATEWAY CORRIDOR AREA. SO AGAIN, INVESTMENT IN THAT PEDESTRIAN EXPERIENCE AND HOW WE CAN WELCOME PEOPLE INTO THE CITY TO STAY. SO OUR INITIAL CONCERNS, OF COURSE, ARE THAT INCOMPATIBILITY WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. SO THAT CORRIDOR COMMERCIAL DESCRIPTION I JUST SHARED THAT GATEWAY AND CORRIDOR AREA I JUST SHARED AS WELL. THE STORAGE MAINTENANCE FACILITY IS NOT APPROPRIATE IN TERMS OF USE FOR THAT AREA. SO WE WORKED WITH THEM TO FIGURE OUT HOW CAN WE GET THE BEST PRODUCT, EVEN THOUGH THE USE IS NOT COMPATIBLE, HOW CAN WE GET THAT BUFFER THAT HAS THOSE PEDESTRIAN AMENITIES, LANDSCAPING, LIGHTING? SO THE APPLICANT DID WORK WITH US TO GET THOSE THINGS IN PLACE. YOU SAW THOSE PROFFERS THAT THEY'RE GUARANTEED TO ENSURE THAT THE PROJECT DOES HAVE A WALKABILITY COMPONENT, A GATEWAY COMPONENT, RECOMMENDATIONS. PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL WITH THE PROPOSED PROFFERS IN A 6 TO 1 VOTE. STAFF RECOMMENDED DENIAL. AS I MENTIONED, AGAIN, IT'S NOT CONSISTENT IN TERMS OF USE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THOUGH WE DID WORK WITH THEM SIGNIFICANTLY TO TRY AND GET PROFFERS IN PLACE TO GET THE IMPROVEMENTS THE BEST WE COULD TO MAKE IT MORE PEDESTRIAN. SO HERE'S YOUR SAMPLE MOTION. IF YOU APPROVE, DENY OR AMEND THE REZONING WITH THE PROFFERS AS PRESENTED, YOU CAN DENY YOU CAN ALSO AMEND. JUST MAKE SURE IT'S CLEAR. IF YOU DENY FOR WHAT REASON YOU STATE THAT. LET ME KNOW IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS. THE APPLICANT IS HERE IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT AS WELL. RIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

WE'LL OPEN THE FLOOR FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION OF ORDINANCE TO APPROVE A REQUEST BY THE VIRGINIA ELECTRIC AND POWER COMPANY, DBA DOMINION ENERGY TO REZONE WILL PROFFERS 33, 45, 33, 39 AND 3311 WEST WASHINGTON STREET. YES, ONE IN THE BACK WAS MARLOW GREEN. HOW ARE YOU? GOOD EVENING. 301 ROSS STREET, MARLOW GREEN. I SUPPORT MISS SIDEWALKS POSITION ON THIS.

IF IT'S A CORRIDOR AND IT DOESN'T ALIGN WITH OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, IT WOULDN'T BE US ALIGNING WITH OUR PLAN THAT WE PUT MONEY INTO. AND SO I YOU KNOW, I WOULD THINK THAT AREA YOU DEFINITELY DO WANT THAT TO BE WALKABLE. AND BECAUSE WE'RE SO HOT RIGHT NOW TO SELL IT OFF TO DOMINION AS INDUSTRIAL PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE THE BEST MOVE FOR MY TAKE FROM A DEVELOPMENT STANDPOINT. BUT THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. MR.

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JEFF FLEMING, 1819 CHUCK AVENUE IN THE GREAT CITY OF PETERSBURG, VIRGINIA. I'M IN FAVOR. I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING MISS MARTIN. MARKS. THANK YOU FOR PUTTING THIS UP THERE FOR THE SIMPLE FACT. WE GOT A COMPANY COMING HERE, GOING TO PUT SOME GREEN SPACE. IT'S GOING TO LOOK NICE. AND THAT'S ONE OF OUR CORRIDORS IN OUR CITY, BECAUSE OUR CITY CORRIDORS DON'T LOOK TOO GOOD. AND THEY'RE WILLING TO PUT THAT UP AS A BUFFER. THAT'S A WIN WIN FOR US. SO I'M WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF THAT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. YES. YES, SIR. THANK YOU I'LL LET YOU. DID YOU SAY THANK YOU? THANK YOU FOR HAVING. ALL RIGHT. HE'S A RESIDENT. OKAY. YEAH. YOU GO NEXT. SURE. I JUST HAD A QUESTION. ALL RIGHT. AND I JUST WANTED CLARITY ON THE EFFECT OF THE ZONING ON THAT SIDE OF THE STREET. 3340 WEST WASHINGTON STREET. AND ALSO 3310 WEST WASHINGTON STREET. AND SO WE'RE ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE. AND SO I'M JUST I JUST WANTED CLARITY ON I MEAN, I CAN SEE THE ESTHETICS OF THIS PROJECT ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE, BUT I WANT TO KNOW WHAT DOES IT DO TO THE SIDE ACROSS THE STREET IN TERMS OF WHAT WE'RE ABLE TO DO AS FAR AS EXPANDING OUR BUSINESS? OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. MR. DAVIS, CAN YOU STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD FOR US, PLEASE? YES. LEONARD DAVIS. YES. OKAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. OKAY. OKAY. YES. NEXT. MAYOR, VICE MAYOR HILL, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. DEREK JOHNSON WITH TIMMONS GROUP REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT IN THIS CASE. FIRST OFF, I WANT TO THANK THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT FOR WORKING WITH US ON THIS CASE AND ALSO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR THE CONSIDERATION THAT THEY DID WHEN WE WENT BEFORE THEM.

THE APPLICANT OWNS THIS PROPERTY. ONE PIECE IS THE LARGEST PIECE. THERE'S FOUR PARCELS. THE LARGEST PIECE IS ALREADY ZONED IN ONE. THEY WANT TO REZONE THE OTHER THREE PARCELS TO M ONE TO ALLOW FOR THE EXPANSION OF THE YARD. WE UNDERSTAND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT THIS IS A GATEWAY TO THE TO THE CITY AND THE CORRIDOR DISTRICT THAT'S PUT IN THERE FOR COMMERCIAL, BUT THE APPLICANT IS NOT GOING TO BE BEING PUT COMMERCIAL ON THIS PROPERTY. SO WORKING WITH PLAN DEPARTMENT, WE TRIED TO COME UP WITH, SINCE WE'RE THE FIRST PEOPLE ON THE BLOCK, WHAT IT COULD LOOK LIKE AS FAR AS A STREETSCAPE THAT'S ALONG WEST WASHINGTON STREET, A 30 FOOT BUFFER OFF THE FRONT RIGHT OF WAY HAS BEEN DEDICATED IN THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE EXTENSIVE LANDSCAPING OF TOTAL OF ABOUT 70 DIFFERENT PLANTINGS. WE'RE GOING TO TAKE DOWN THE GOOSENECK LIGHTS THAT WE HAVE ON TWO OF THE POLES THAT ARE ALONG THERE AND PUT IN PEDESTRIAN LIGHTING ALONG THERE. WE'RE GOING TO REPLACE THE FOUR FOOT SIDEWALK WITH AN EIGHT FOOT WIDE SIDEWALK, AND THE FIVE ENTRANCES WERE TAKEN FOUR OUT AND JUST GOING TO LEAVE ONE. IN ADDITION TO THAT, THERE WAS SOME TALK THAT CAME IN ABOUT PUBLIC SPACE FOR ART AND THOSE TYPE OF THINGS. SO THE APPLICANT DID AGREE TO DEDICATE A 30 BY 40 FOOT AREA IN THAT 30 FOOT BUFFER SO THAT THERE COULD BE SOME DISCUSSIONS ABOUT ART OR OTHER TYPE OF DISPLAYS, EXHIBITS THAT COULD BE PUT IN THERE THAT THE CITY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE. SO I THINK WE'VE DONE A GOOD JOB WITH THE APPLICANT AND THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT TO KIND OF COME UP WITH THE BEST SITUATION HERE, AND KNOWING WE'RE FIRST ON THE BLOCK, I THINK THEY'VE DONE A LOT OF WORK IN PUTTING TOGETHER WHAT WHAT CAN BE IN LONG WASHINGTON STREET IN THE FUTURE. BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. ALSO HAVE MEMBERS OF DOMINION HERE THAT CAN TALK TO THE OPERATIONS AND WHAT'S GOING TO TAKE PLACE THERE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MR. DAVIS. THEY ASK YOU A QUESTION. YES.

THAT'S SOME PARTNERSHIP. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. NEXT WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. WE'LL GO TO DISCUSSION FROM MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. COUNCILMAN JONES. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. AND I HOPE MY LIGHT BILL DON'T GO UP OUT THERE. WHAT I SEE. TO YOU GUYS. THANK YOU. I WANT TO SAY THAT, BUT WE TALKING ABOUT AND I'M TRYING TO THINK OF THE MOST POSITIVE WAY TO SAY WHAT I NEED TO SAY. WE'RE GETTING TREES AND ROCKS. WHEN DINWIDDIE GOT A BIG MEGA COMPLEX AND THE APPLICANT

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I AM WE TALK ABOUT A SIDEWALK WHERE THE PEOPLE CAN WALK. WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO WALK TO? I MEAN, THEY NEED TO WALK TO CENTRAL STATE. THEY CAN'T COME IN YOUR COMPLEX. YOUR SECURITY IS TIGHT. YOU GOT ALL THE EGRESS SHUT DOWN EXCEPT FOR ONE. HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT FIRST RESPONDERS COMING AND GOING? IF THEY NEED BE, HOW WILL THIS AFFECT THE TRAFFIC WHEN THEY'RE LOADING AND UNLOADING THE ROCKS AND THE STORAGE YARD? AND HOW MUCH? WILL THE CITY MAKE? IF THERE WAS COMMERCIAL THERE, WOULD THERE USED TO BE A BARBECUE BUSINESS RIGHT THERE, AND THE CITY COLLECTED TAXES, AND I THINK IT WAS MORE TAXES FROM A BUILDING IN A, IN A LOT VERSUS A LOT WITH JUST ROCKS ON IT. I'M JUST THINKING, I DON'T KNOW FOR SURE, MR. CITY MANAGER, BUT I'M JUST EXPRESSING MY CONCERN. BUT ANYTHING ON THE FLIP SIDE, THERE IS A FLIP SIDE IF IT'S GOING TO MAKE IT BEAUTIFUL ON THAT CORRIDOR, BECAUSE THAT'S BEEN AN ARGUMENT OF MINE TO MAKE EACH CORRIDOR EAST WASHINGTON STREET IN WEST WASHINGTON BEAUTIFUL. ALL I WANT YOU TO DO IS DO YOUR DAMN BEST TO MAKE IT AS BEAUTIFUL AS THAT BUILDING THAT YOU GOT. AND THEN, WOODY, THAT'S ALL I GOT. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN WESTBROOK, CAN WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS FROM THE ACTUAL APPLICANT? DOMINION POWER? I KNOW HE SAID THEY WERE HERE, BUT THEY'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON THEIR BEHALF. THANK YOU. AND WHY ARE YOU COMING UP? BECAUSE I HAVE A SIMILAR QUESTION. IT'S LIKE I DO LIKE EVERYTHING THAT WAS GOING ON IN DINWIDDIE. AND WHEN I CAME ON IT'S LIKE NIGHT AND DAY WHEN YOU CROSS THAT BOUNDARY. SO I'M LIKE WONDERING WHY THE GRAVEL ON OUR SIDE AND NOT IT WAS NOT A PROPOSED FOR WHERE YOU WERE ALREADY. I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH I CAN SPEAK TO ON THAT. I KNOW THAT THE PARCELS THAT DOMINION DOES OWN, I MEAN THERE'S ONLY A SMALL SECTION THAT IS IN WITHIN THE PETERSBURG CITY LIMITS. I MEAN, THE MAJORITY OF WHEN YOU SAY THE MEGA COMPLEX, I'M ASSUMING YOU'RE SPEAKING ABOUT THE LARGE LAB AND TECHNICAL SUPPORT BUILDING THAT WAS JUST BUILT THERE. I MEAN, THAT'S JUST THE LAND WE HAD, THE AVAILABILITY, THE MAJORITY OF THAT WAS WITHIN THE COUNTY AND NOT WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS. ARE YOU AND I KNOW YOU JUST SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THEM, BUT ARE YOU DO YOU REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT WE UNDERSTAND ABOUT THE BEAUTIFICATION OF THE GATEWAY? BECAUSE THAT IS AS AS OUR REPRESENTATIVE FROM TIMMINS, IT'S THE FIRST NEIGHBOR ON THE BLOCK. AND I KNOW THAT MR. DAVIS ACROSS THE STREET HAS THAT DAYCARE. AND I'M REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT HOW, YOU KNOW, YOU WOULD REALLY MAKE PETERSBURG A PLACE TO COME. WHEN PEOPLE COME IN TO THEY DON'T JUST SEE GRAVEL. I LIKE THE ART IDEA. BUT AGAIN, ARE YOU ARE Y'ALL COMMITTED TO MAKING THIS A BEAUTIFUL BEAUTIFICATION OTHER THAN JUST A GRAVEL STORAGE AREA? ABSOLUTELY. WE ARE COMMITTED. I DON'T THINK ANYONE'S ACTUALLY GOING TO SEE THE GRAVEL. THAT'S THERE'S A 30 FOOT LANDSCAPING BARRIER THERE. SO IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE'RE I THINK WE'RE DOING AS MUCH AS WE CAN IF, IF ANYONE ON THE CITY COUNCIL HAS A RECOMMENDATION TO DO MORE, WE'RE OBVIOUSLY OPEN TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH YOU ALL ON THAT FOR SURE. COUNCILMAN CUTLER. WHAT EATS AT ME IS DOMINION'S POWER. DOMINION POWER'S DECISION TO PUT ALL THE VALUABLE STUFF IN DINWIDDIE. AND GIVE US A PARKING LOT. THAT WAS A CONSCIOUS DECISION THE DOMINION POWER MADE TO ABANDON PETERSBURG. HEY, MR. MAYOR, I'M GOING TO SAY POINT OF ORDER AT THIS PARTICULAR POINT BECAUSE YOU ARE MAKING STATEMENTS THAT ARE VERY UNTRUE.

AND THEY GAVE YOU YOUR WORKS FACILITY OVER THERE ON EAST WASHINGTON STREET. SO DON'T SAY THEY ABANDONED PETERSBURG. YOU DIDN'T PAY A DIME FOR THAT FACILITY OVER THERE. IF YOU THINK THAT THAT WAS A FAIR TRADE, I DISAGREE. THEIR OPERATION IS WHAT THEY NEED, NOT WHAT YOU NEED. SO DINWIDDIE GOT THE MEAT AND PETERSBURG GOT THE BONE. AND THAT'S WHERE WE ARE

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WE WERE ALSO LOOKING INTO THE CENTRAL STATE ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF WEST WASHINGTON STREET.

RIGHT. WE WANTED TO EXPAND THERE. WE HAD A BIG MASTER PLAN FOR THAT AREA AS WELL. I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING AGAINST THE CITY OF PETERSBURG WHATSOEVER. MORE FOCUSED ON DINWIDDIE COUNTY. OKAY. SO NO, YOU'RE FINE. ALL OF THAT IS STATED, BUT I WANT TO GET BACK TO THE THIS IS A ORDINANCE TO APPROVE A REQUEST TO REZONE THE PROPERTIES AT THE PROPERTY. SO I JUST WANT EVERYONE TO STAY FOCUSED. WHAT'S IN DINWIDDIE IS IN DINWIDDIE. BUT WE'RE WORKING ON THE PETERSBURG SIDE JUST TO BRING EVERYBODY BACK TO WHAT'S ON VICE MAYOR HILL. MR. MAYOR MEMBERS OF COUNCIL CITIZENS I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE PETITION BY VIRGINIA ELECTRIC POWER WITH THE STATED. PROFFERS AND DECISIONS THAT OUR PLANNER HAD PUT FORTH FOR THE BEAUTIFICATION OF THE GATEWAY COMING INTO THE CITY OF PETERSBURG. THAT'S MY MOTION.

ALL RIGHT, COUNCILMAN JONES, I SECOND. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. MISS HILL, COULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL COUNCIL MEMBER. CUTHBERT. COUNCIL MEMBER. JONES. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER. MYERS.

COUNCIL MEMBER. WESTBROOK. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER. LEE. AYE. VICE MAYOR. HILL. AYE. MAYOR. PERRY.

AYE. MOTION CARRIES. MR. MAYOR, I WANT TO THANK OUR PLANNER FOR WORKING WITH THEM AND BEAUTIFYING THAT THAT GATEWAY AREA. I'M NOT TO GET INTO A WHOLE LOT, BUT, YOU KNOW, VIRGINIA POWER HAS BEEN GOOD NEIGHBORS TO US OVER THE YEARS. THEY'VE BEEN IN PETERSBURG FOR MANY, MANY YEARS. AND I THINK, YOU KNOW WHAT? THINGS CHANGE. THEY DON'T ALWAYS STAY THE SAME.

I DO FEEL THE SENTIMENTS OF MY COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT HAVE SPOKEN AND WHAT HAVE YOU. I WANT TO NEGOTIATE A LOWER RATE ON OUR ELECTRIC, IF I COULD, BUT I KNOW WE CAN'T DO THAT. SO THAT'S WHAT I REALLY WOULD WANT TO DO. BUT ANYWAYS. BUT I JUST WANTED TO CONGRATULATE OUR PLANNER FOR WORKING OUT, DOING THE HARD WORK. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU, BRITTANY, FOR COMING AS WELL. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. YEAH I WOULD LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING.

THANK YOU. NAOMI AND YOUR TEAM. BUT I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO VIRGINIA POWER. MY MOTHER WORKED. SHE RETIRED THERE WITH 28 YEARS. SHE WORKED AT DUTCH GAP. SHE WAS THE AFRICAN AMERICAN TO WORK ON THE COAL CAUSE THERE. AND I HAVE A GREAT AMOUNT OF RESPECT FOR DOMINION POWER BECAUSE THEY GAVE HER AN OPPORTUNITY. AND SHE WAS WELL KNOWN AT VIRGINIA POWER. THANK YOU. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. COUNCILMAN WESTBROOK, AND I'D JUST LIKE TO GO ON THE RECORD THAT HOPEFULLY YOU WILL BE TRUE TO YOUR WORD AND WORK WITH THE ARTS COUNCIL. MAYBE A START TO AGAIN, MAKE THIS A GATEWAY ENTRANCE AND REALLY MAKE IT LOOK JUST AS GOOD AS THAT DINWIDDIE PORTION AS BEST POSSIBLE I UNDERSTAND. ALL RIGHT. NEXT IS ITEM C A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE TO APPROVE A REQUEST BY FORTUNE FOUNDERS LLC FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT WITH CONDITIONS FOR MULTIPLE FAMILY DWELLINGS AS AUTHORIZED AND CONTROLLED BY THE R5, MULTIPLE DWELLING DISTRICT STANDARDS AT 25 SOUTH CRADER ROAD. PARCEL ID 012260023. IN THE B2 GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT. MISS. THANK YOU MAYOR. SO HERE YOU CAN SEE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. IT'S NEAR EAST WASHINGTON STREET, JUST OFF OF SOUTH CRATER ROAD. SO HERE'S A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON THE REQUEST. THIS IS THE FORMER OYO HOTEL. AND THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING TO CONVERT THIS FORMER HOTEL INTO A MULTI-FAMILY DWELLING DEVELOPMENT WITH UP TO 75 UNITS. CURRENTLY THE PROPERTY IS VACANT AND IN NEED OF REPAIR. I'LL SHOW YOU SOME PHOTOS IN THE PRESENTATION. PER THE APPLICATION, THE DEVELOPMENT NEEDS TO INCLUDE A MANAGEMENT OFFICE, LAUNDRY AND VENDING FACILITIES, ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING AND 10 TO 20% ROOMS OF WOULD BE FURNISHED. THAT'S AS WAS PROVIDED IN THE APPLICATION. A PUBLIC HEARING WAS HELD DECEMBER 5TH, 2024, BUT ACTION WAS DEFERRED TO REQUEST THE APPLICANT BE IN ATTENDANCE. SO HERE IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE FOR

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COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CONSIDERATIONS. SO I WANTED TO SHARE THIS WITH YOU. THIS AREA IS IDENTIFIED AS COMMUNITY MIXED USE ON OUR FUTURE LAND USE MAP. SO OUR VISION FOR THE COMMUNITY, IT'S ENVISIONS INTERCONNECTED COMMERCE CENTERS FOR RESIDENTS AND VISITORS. PRINCIPAL LAND USES INCLUDE THINGS LIKE ADAPTIVE REUSE OF STRUCTURES LIKE THIS, MULTIFAMILY HOUSING, OFFICES, PERSONAL SERVICES, SMALL SCALE OFFICE AND RETAIL USES AS WELL. THE GOAL IS TO CREATE A DIVERSE AND ATTAINABLE HOUSING STOCK, INCLUDING MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING. SO HAVING THAT ARRAY OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF HOUSING. I ALSO INCLUDED THIS SIDE PANEL HERE, AND THIS IS A LOT OF WHAT WE LOOKED AT AT THE LAST PROJECT FOR DOMINION AND THIS PROJECT. SO THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP OF COURSE FOCUSES ON USE, BUT ALSO FOCUSES ON CHARACTER AND PRINCIPLES AS WELL, MAKING SURE THESE DEVELOPMENTS HAVE AMENITIES, GREEN SPACE AND HAVE PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS AS WELL ON THE CORRIDOR. SO THAT'S WHAT I SHARED RIGHT THERE. SO HERE YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE ADJOINING ZONING. WE HAVE THAT COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT AND THEN THE R3 RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT RIGHT NEARBY. IT'S RIGHT ON THE EDGE. PROPOSED CONDITIONS. WE HAVE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF CONDITIONS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON FOR THIS PROPERTY. SO ONE IS MAKING SURE THAT THERE'S ON CALL MANAGEMENT AND MAINTENANCE STAFF, AS WELL AS ON SITE SECURITY, SURVEILLANCE AND SECURITY STAFF AT ALL HOURS. SECURE LAUNDRY FACILITIES SHALL BE PROVIDED AND REMAIN ACCESSIBLE FOR RESIDENTS. AT LEAST 20% OF THE APARTMENT SHALL BE FURNISHED AS PROVIDED.

THE EXISTING PARKING AREA SHALL BE MILLED, REPAVED AND RESTRIPED PRIOR TO THE ISSUANCE OF ANY CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY. SO BEFORE ANYONE CAN OCCUPY THE BUILDING AND AT LEAST ONE PARKING SPACE SHALL BE PROVIDED. UNLESS THERE'S A WAIVER GRANTED BY THE BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS.

SO WE'RE MAKING SURE THEY'RE AWARE THAT THEY NEED TO MEET OUR PARKING REQUIREMENTS PER UNIT, OR THEY NEED TO REQUEST A WAIVER. AT LEAST TWO OF THOSE SPACES NEED TO BE ELECTRIC CHARGING STATIONS. THE EXISTING CHAIN LINK FENCE ON THE STREET FRONTAGE NEEDS TO BE REMOVED AND REPLACED WITH SOMETHING THAT'S ORNAMENTAL. IF THEY'RE TO PUT FENCING IN PLACE AND THE DEVELOPMENT NEEDS TO INTEGRATE ADDITIONAL GREEN SPACE AS WELL, WHETHER IT'S A GREEN ROOF, CONVERSION OF A PORTION OF THE PARKING AREA INTO A GREEN SPACE, AND IT NEEDS TO BE APPROVED PER OUR DEPARTMENT. CONTINUING CONDITIONS. WE ALSO HAVE PROPOSED FOR THE SITE AS WELL, AND NEEDS AT LEAST TWO OF THE FOLLOWING AMENITIES A PUBLIC ART, A CLUBHOUSE, CO-WORK SPACE, A DOG PARK, A FITNESS CENTER. AGAIN, WE'RE TRYING TO MEET THE DESCRIPTIONS THAT ARE ESTABLISHED IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. AND SO WHEN THEY SUBMIT THEIR PROJECT, THEY'LL HAVE TO PROVIDE A FLOOR PLAN SHOWING THE INCLUSION OF SUCH HIGH QUALITY CONSTRUCTION MATERIALS NEED TO BE APPROVED FOR THE PROJECT AND NEED TO BE REVIEWED BY THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR. THE DEVELOPMENT SHALL INCLUDE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE STREET FRONTAGE AS WELL, MAKING SURE WE'RE USING NATIVE SPECIES, STREET FURNITURE, PEDESTRIAN SCALE LIGHTING ALONG THAT FRONTAGE AND THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE BEFORE THEY CAN GET THEIR CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY AS WELL. THE PERMIT CAN BE REVOKED BY THE CITY COUNCIL OR ITS DESIGNATED AGENT IN THE FUTURE IF THEY DON'T COMPLY WITH THESE LISTED CONDITIONS. JUST LIKE THAT EXAMPLE WE BROUGHT TO YOU ALL EARLIER TODAY. ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS. AGAIN, THE USE IS SUPPORTED BY THE COMP PLAN IN GENERAL, BUT THERE'S SITE SPECIFIC CONCERNS. THAT'S SO THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS BY ALL THOSE CONDITIONS THAT YOU SAW TODAY. AND ALSO I IMPROVEMENTS HAVE TO TAKE PLACE BEFORE THEY CAN EVEN OCCUPY THE BUILDING. SO EVERYTHING THAT WE LISTED AS A CONDITION NEEDS TO BE DONE BEFORE ANYONE CAN BE IN THAT BUILDING. RECOMMENDATION.

PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THE WITH PROPOSED CONDITIONS WITH A FOUR YES, TWO NO AND ONE ABSTENTION VOTE. STAFF ALSO RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT WITH THE CONDITIONS AS PRESENTED TO YOU ALL TODAY. SO HERE YOU CAN SEE AGAIN THE SAMPLE MOTION. WE DO HAVE THE APPLICANT HERE. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. AND LET ME KNOW IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS AS WELL OKAY. THANK YOU MISS SIDEWALK. NOW WE OPEN UP THE FLOOR FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR CONSIDERATION OF ORDINANCE TO APPROVE A REQUEST BY FORTUNE FOUNDERS, LLC FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT WITH CONDITIONS FOR MULTIPLE FAMILY DWELLINGS AND AUTHORIZE CONTROL BY THE R5 MULTI-DWELLING DISTRICT STANDARDS AT 25 SOUTH CRATER ROAD. ALL RIGHT, MR. JEFF FLEMING. GOOD EVENING, JEFF FLEMING, 1819 CHUCKATUCK AVENUE IN THE GREAT CITY OF PETERSBURG, VIRGINIA. THIS PROJECT HERE, I'M ALL LIKE I SAID, I'M ABOUT GIVING PEOPLE CHANCES, BUT THERE HAVE BEEN MANY CHANCES GIVEN AT THIS LOCATION. I MUST SPEAK FRANKLY. SOME PEOPLE MIGHT GET OFF, BUT I'M SORRY. THIS IS MY COMMUNITY. THIS IS MY CITY. I HAVE A SAY IN WHAT COMES IN THIS

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IT'S NOT JUST THERE. THERE'S A COUPLE OTHER BUILDINGS DOWN THERE NEED TO BE DEALT WITH, BUT IN ORDER FOR IT TO BE APPROVED, I FEEL THAT THESE THINGS NEED TO BE IN PLACE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. GARY TALLEY. GARY TALLEY 2323 FORT RICE. I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING YOU SAID. WE NEED AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO COME INTO THE CITY WITH EXCEEDING COMING IN. WE NEED SMALLER PLACES THAT PEOPLE CAN RENT TEMPORARILY. THIS IS NOT THE PLACE FOR THAT. YOU'VE GOT. I MEAN, THERE'S NOT 75 UNITS THERE. NOW, IF YOU GET ON THE SECOND FLOOR, LOOK OUT ONE DIRECTION. YOU'LL SEE THE BACK OF THE STAR MOTEL. THE OTHER DIRECTION YOU SEE THE BACK OF VALERO. THAT IS NOT A GOOD PLACE FOR AN APARTMENTS, MR. BOB RUDOLPH. THANK YOU. MAYOR BARB RUDOLPH, 1675 MOUNT VERNON STREET. I'M ALSO IN AGREEMENT WITH THE TWO PREVIOUS SPEAKERS, MR. FLEMING AND GARY. MAYBE IT'S A FAILURE OF IMAGINATION ON MY PART, BUT I REALLY AM HAVING A HARD TIME VISUALIZING THIS AND HEARING, LIKE, PICK TWO OF THE FOUR THINGS PUBLIC ART, GREEN ROOF, WHATEVER THAT. I DON'T REMEMBER IT. I'M NOT TRYING TO MAKE FUN OF YOU, MR. SIODMAK. I KNOW YOU HAVE TO DELIVER THIS MESSAGE, BUT THIS JUST SOUNDS LIKE ONE OF THE MOST ILL ADVISED THINGS THAT I'VE HEARD OF COMING TO PETERSBURG. WE HAVE A HARD. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A LOT OF CRITICISM THAT WE BUILD SO MANY RENTAL SPACE IN THE CITY, AND WE'VE TURNED THINGS DOWN. BUT THIS JUST SEEMS LIKE, AS OTHER STATED, IT'S CALLING IT LANDLOCKED. THAT'S A GOOD DESCRIPTION. WHERE IS THERE GOING TO? I MEAN, I JUST CAN'T IMAGINE HAVING A APARTMENTS, STUDIO APARTMENTS AND NO KIND OF RECREATIONAL ANYTHING OTHER THAN I GUESS THEY'RE GOING TO THEY CAN BUILD A LITTLE, TAKE ONE ROOM AND MAKE IT, PUT SOME EQUIPMENT IN THERE OR SOMETHING.

I MEAN, IT JUST DOESN'T SEEM LIKE A PLACE THAT'S ATTRACTIVE TO FAMILIES OR ANYTHING I HEARD.

I MEAN, I HEARD ABOUT THIS IDEA BEFORE IT WAS ON THE AGENDA, AND IT JUST IT JUST SOUNDS LIKE SUCH A STRETCH. THAT'S THE ONLY WAY I CAN DESCRIBE IT. I DON'T THINK THAT. I DON'T THINK IT REPRESENTS A PARTICULARLY AN IMPROVEMENT OVER THE HOTEL THAT WAS THERE BEFORE THAT DIDN'T PASS MUSTER. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. YES. IN THE BACK. SO. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. KIRA STEVENS 226 ROLFE STREET. I AGREE WITH EVERYONE ELSE, ESPECIALLY THE FIRST SPEAKER. I FEEL LIKE IT'S SO MUCH MORE WE COULD DO WITH THAT. IT'S SO MUCH MORE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO WITH THAT AREA, ESPECIALLY WITH BRINGING IT FORWARD AND WHAT THEY ARE TRYING TO DO IS NOT NECESSARILY GOING TO FULLY DO IT, BUT DEFINITELY CHANGING IT WILL HELP JUST THE DIRECTION THEY'RE GOING OR HOW THEY'RE TRYING TO GO ABOUT IT. I FEEL LIKE IT'S MORE ABOUT CHASING THE MONEY THAN FIXING THE AREA. SO IF THEY WILL KIND OF REIMAGE THEIR VISION OR WHAT THEIR MISSION IS, I GUESS WHAT THEIR REFOCUS, THEIR PURPOSE, IF IT'S GOING TO BE LONG TERM TO MAKE A

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YOU CAN HAVE GREEN SPACE ON THE ROOFTOP, AND I THINK THE 75 UNIT IS IT'S CHASING THE MONEY.

THAT'S TOO MUCH. IF YOU WANT TO WANT TO BE UP TO CODE, I BELIEVE IT SHOULD BE REDUCED TO HALF SO THAT IT CAN COMPLY, AS YOU SAY, TO HAVE ADEQUATE KITCHEN SPACE AS A STANDARD APARTMENT AND ALSO CONSIDERATION OF MAYBE MAKING IT CONDOMINIUMS IN THAT PEOPLE CAN PURCHASE AND HAVE SOME BUILT UP SOME EQUITY. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S DOABLE. I DON'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT THE BUILDING, BUT I THINK THAT SPACE CAN BE USED WITH CONTINGENCIES AND CREATIVITY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

SEEING NO OTHER HANDS, THIS PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED. VICE MAYOR HILL. YES. LISTENING TO ALL OUR CITIZENS, I MOVE THAT WE DENY THE CONSIDERATION OF THE ORDINANCE REQUESTED BY THE FOUNTAIN FOUNDATION, LLC FOR THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT, THAT WE WOULD DENY IT. OKAY. COUNCILMAN WESTBROOK, A SECOND, A MOTION, A SECOND. ALL RIGHT, MISS, MY APOLOGIES. THE APPLICANT WAS UNCLEAR. THAT PUBLIC COMMENT IS WHEN IS BEST TO SPEAK. I KNOW YOU'VE MOVED ON, BUT I DID WANT TO PUT THAT OUTK. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK. SURE. HELLO. GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY. I'D LIKE TO SHARE THE VISION SO I CAN SEE EVERYBODY RESIDENT OF PETERSBURG ALSO CAN HEAR. WE HAVE DONE THIS SUCCESSFULLY IN MY CITY OF CHESAPEAKE. WE DID 30 UNITS AND THEN WE DID 50 UNITS IN NEWPORT NEWS. WE DID EXACTLY THE SAME THING THERE. WHAT IT REALLY HELPED FOR THE FIXED INCOME PEOPLE. AND IF YOU LOOK ON CITY OF PETERSBURG RIGHT NOW, YOU CAN GO ON ZILLOW AND CHECK THERE'S NOT ONE UNIT THAT AVAILABLE FOR FIXED INCOME PEOPLE AT ALL, AND THAT'S WHAT WE TARGET. SO WE'RE NOT TARGETING FAMILIES. I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE, YOU KNOW, CONCERN ABOUT IT, BUT WHO WE INVITING FOR THESE PROPERTIES IS SOMEWHERE THAT WE HAVE THE INFORMATION. SO PEOPLE ARE NOT JUST COMING TO ENJOY THE WEEKEND AND DOING THE PARTYING. SO WE HAVE LONG TERM PEOPLE WHO STAY THERE AND THEY DON'T HAVE TO PAY WATER, ELECTRIC, THEY DON'T HAVE TO PAY TRASH, THEY DON'T HAVE TO PAY INTERNET OR ANY KIND OF CABLE. THIS IS THE ONE BILL PAY FOR EVERYTHING. AND THIS SERVES ALL THOSE PEOPLE WHO DO NOT HAVE CREDIT. THEY CANNOT TURN THEIR WATER ON THEIR NAME. THEY CAN'T TURN ELECTRIC ON THEM BECAUSE THEY JUST HAVE PREVIOUS BALANCES OR THAT'S WHAT WE ATTRACT. PLUS A LOT OF PEOPLE ON SOCIAL SECURITY AND THEY MAKE FIXED INCOME. AND THAT'S WHAT IS GOING TO BE ATTRACTED TOWARDS THIS.

OUT OF THE 50 UNITS WE TURNED AND THEY TURNED BEAUTIFULLY FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS, WE SERVE ALL OF THEM 100% FULL. AND RESIDENTS ARE VERY, VERY HAPPY WITH US. IT'S CALLED CITY STUDIOS. YOU CAN SEE IT ON NEWPORT NEWS. AND EVERY UNIT WE HAVE PEOPLE THERE FOR. I THINK RIGHT THE DAY WE OPEN IT, NOT EVEN ONE PERSON MOVE. AND THAT'S JUST ATTRACTING ALL THOSE PEOPLE THAT WANT CAN ONLY AFFORD $1,000. SO IF YOU LOOK IN THE CITY OF CITY OF PETERSBURG, THERE'S NOT I THINK THERE'S ONLY ABOUT 2 OR 3 UNITS AVAILABLE. AS FAR AS MAKING THE GREEN, WE DO HAVE A SPACE ON THE RIGHT, AND WE HAVE SOME SPACE ON THE BACK OF THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING. SO RIGHT SIDE ON THE BACK. THAT'S WHERE WE ARE THINKING TO PUT THE GREENS TO MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT BETTER. AND THE FRONT WILL BE ALL THE BUSHES AND FLOWERS. I MEAN, THE CURRENT USE IS A MOTEL, AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE CRIME HISTORY ON THAT MOTEL, THAT WE WILL NEVER GOING TO BUY THAT, TO TURN BACK INTO THE MOTEL AND PEOPLE JUST STAYING THERE AND EITHER DOING SOME KIND OF ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES, THAT'S WHAT'S BEING CALLED THE COPS FOR. AND THIS IS NOT WHAT WE DO. WE CLEAN THAT PLACE UP AND WE DO. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A ONE PERSON ON THE ON SITE. WE'LL HAVE CAMERAS, WE'RE GONNA HAVE PLENTY OF LIGHTS, AND THERE'S A KITCHENETTE THAT'S GOING TO BE PUT IN PLACE. SO IT'S I TOTALLY

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SO MANY PEOPLE HAVE DIED THERE. NOW, THIS PLACE HAS HAD MULTIPLE REPAIR. DEMOLISHED LETTERS SINCE I WAS A FIRE MARSHAL IN PETERSBURG OVER 15 YEARS AGO AND IS STILL STANDING NOW, UNLESS YOU'RE WILLING TO TEAR IT DOWN WITH THAT $3 MILLION AND BUILD A PRETTY NEW STRUCTURE I'M MAKING.

AGREE WITH YOU, BUT I WILL NOT SIT HERE AND LET THAT THING SIT THERE AND OPEN BACK UP, BECAUSE THE MUSCLE MEMORY OF THE PEOPLE THAT'S WALKING THROUGH THERE AND WE FLAGGING IN THEIR FACE, YOU CAN COME MOVE HERE IF YOU'RE UNDERPRIVILEGED, IF YOU'RE NOT MAKING THE MONEY. I CAN'T AGREE WITH THAT. NAOMI, YOU SAID SOMETHING ABOUT SITE SPECIFIC CONCERNS. I AGREE WITH MR. FLEMING. THERE'S NO KITCHEN. I KNOW YOU SAID YOU'RE GONNA PUT A KITCHENETTE IN THERE, BUT THAT DOESN'T CONSTITUTE AN APARTMENT IN ORDER TO CHANGE. THAT'S A CHANGE OF USE. IN ORDER TO DO THAT, YOU GOT TO MAKE IT AN APARTMENT, SPRINKLER SYSTEM, FIRE ALARM, EVERYTHING OF THAT NATURE. WHAT YOU'RE PRESENTING TO US, I CANNOT SEE THAT RIGHT THERE. AND LASTLY, THIS IS NOT THE RIGHT PLACE. LIKE MR. TALLEY SAID, IT'S NOT. IF YOU CHOSE SOMEWHERE ELSE, MAYBE ON 460 SOMEWHERE, I DON'T KNOW. BUT THAT'S NOT THE PLACE RIGHT HERE. THIS IS COMMERCE, YOU KNOW. IT'S RIGHT ON THE BORDER OF RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL. LIKE MY MAN SAID, YOU LOOK OUT ONE DOOR, ONE WINDOW, YOU SEE THE BACK OF A STORE, AND THE OTHER ONE, YOU SEE THE BACK OF A HOTEL. IN MY OPINION, ALL OF IT NEED TO BE KNOCKED DOWN. EVERYTHING ON THAT BLOCK IN ORDER FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD. SO IF UNLESS YOU'RE WILLING TO TAKE THAT $3 MILLION AND KNOCK IT DOWN, I'M ON YOUR SIDE, YOU KNOW? BUT IF NOT, THEN I GUESS CHESAPEAKE AND TIDEWATER WILL BE GETTING $3 MILLION FOR A PROJECT. THAT'S ALL I GOT. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND BY VICE MAYOR HILL AT THIS TIME IS HILL. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL COUNCIL MEMBER CUTHBERT. BLANFORD DESERVES BETTER THAN THIS. COUNCIL MEMBER JONES I, COUNCIL MEMBER. MYERS.

COUNCIL MEMBER. WESTBROOK I. COUNCIL MEMBER. LEE. AYE. VICE MAYOR. HILL. AYE. MAYOR I. THE MOTION CARRIES. ALL RIGHT. NEXT WE HAVE ITEM D, WHICH IS A PUBLIC HEARING FOR CONSIDERATION OF AN APPROPRIATION ORDINANCE TO AMEND THE FY 25 STREETS FUND BUDGET, INCREASING THE URBAN HIGHWAY MAINTENANCE FUNDING FOR STREET OPERATIONS. BARRY COZIER, GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING.

COUNCIL GARY COZIER, YOUR BUDGET MANAGER. THIS ITEM HERE IS TO AMEND OUR STREETS FUND BUDGET.

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OKAY. SEEING NONE, THIS PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED. VICE MAYOR HILL. I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE ORDINANCE TO AMEND THE FY 25 STREETS FUNDING BUDGET, INCREASING THE URBAN HIGHWAY MAINTENANCE FUNDING FOR STREETS OPERATION. ALL RIGHT, COUNCILMAN WESTBROOK SECOND. MOTION. A SECOND WAS HILL. COULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL COUNCIL MEMBER. CUTHBERT. COUNCIL MEMBER. JONES I COUNCIL MEMBER. MYERS. COUNCIL MEMBER. WESTBROOK. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER.

LEE. AYE. VICE MAYOR. HILL. AYE. MAYOR. PARA. AYE. MOTION CARRIES. NEXT IS ITEM E, A PUBLIC HEARING AMENDING THE FY 25 GRANT FUND BUDGET TO ACCEPT AN APPROPRIATE ORDINANCES FOR SEVERAL GRANTS, MR. COZIER. OKAY, SO A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON THIS ONE FOR THE PUBLIC. EACH TIME WE BRING A GRANT BEFORE COUNCIL, IT IS ESSENTIALLY AMENDING THE GRANT FUND BUDGET.

SO IN THIS ITEM WE HAD SEVERAL GRANTS. SO WE DECIDED TO LOOP THEM INTO ONE ITEM. SO THIS IS FOR OUR VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF FORESTRY URBAN AND COMMUNITY FORESTRY GRANT THROUGH OUR PLANNING DEPARTMENT. THE DEQ ARPA GRANT MODIFICATION INCREASE FOR THE POOR CREEK AREA AND UPGRADES OVER THERE THROUGH OUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT. THE DEQ LITTER GRANT, ALSO THROUGH OUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT, AND THEN THE VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH, OFFICE OF EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES, RESCUE SQUAD ASSISTANCE FUND FOR OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT. SO THE TOTAL OF ALL THE GRANTS ADDING INTO THE BUDGET IS. $5,181,319.31. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I'LL OPEN THE FLOOR NOW FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING. ON THE FOLLOWING GRANTS. THE VDOT URBAN COMMUNITY FORESTRY GRANT, DEQ, OPERA GRANT MODIFICATION, FY 20 5DQ LITTER GRANT AND A. M S RCF GRANT. SEEING NO HANDS.

THIS PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED. VICE MAYOR HILL, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE AMENDING FOR FY 25 GRANT FUNDING BUDGET. ALL RIGHT. COUNCILMAN WESTBROOK, SECOND MOTION A SECOND. WILL YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL COUNCIL MEMBER. CUTHBERT, COUNCIL MEMBER. JONES. COUNCIL MEMBER. MYERS. COUNCIL MEMBER WAS A COUNCIL MEMBER. SMITH. LEE. VICE MAYOR. HILL. MAYOR. AYE. MOTION CARRIES. NEXT IS ITEM F, A PUBLIC HEARING FOR CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO

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IF I COULD GET GARRETT TO ROLL DOWN TO THE PRESENTATION. SEE YOU BACK THERE. SEE? GARRETT.

GARRETT, LET ME GET YOU TO ROLL DOWN TO THE PRESENTATION. THANK YOU. SIR, WE'RE GONNA HAVE MR. ROEBUCK COME FORWARD AND PRESENT THAT TO YOU. AS THE DEED PROPERTY SHEET. DRAFT ORDINANCE.

THERE WE GO. AND NOW, MR. ROEBUCK. FORWARD TO THE NEXT SLIDE. OKAY, COOL. GOOD EVENING.

COUNCIL MAYOR. VICE MAYOR, MR. ALTMAN, MY NAME IS BARRY ROEBUCK, AND I'M TRYING TO LOOK AT PURCHASING A PIECE OF PROPERTY ON WEST TABB STREET FOR SOME DEVELOPMENT THAT WE'RE DOING OVER THERE BETWEEN MYSELF AND COREY AND LORI BULLOCK. NEXT SLIDE. WE NEED SOME DEDICATED AND OWNED PARKING IN CLOSE PROXIMITY OF THE SHARED DEVELOPMENT THAT WE'RE WORKING ON. NEXT SLIDE. CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW THE ON NORTH MARKET STREET I OWN A COUPLE OF THESE PROPERTIES AND AN INVESTOR IN IN SOME OF THE OTHER WORKS THAT ARE GOING ON ON NORTH MARKET STREET, THE BUILDING THAT LOOKS LIKE THE SEABOARD, WELL, IT SITS BACK OFF THE STREET. IT'S A SEABOARD BUILDING. I PURCHASED THAT FIVE, SIX, SEVEN YEARS AGO AND REDEVELOPED, BEAUTIFIED AND PRETTY MUCH HAVE FINISHED THAT. THE ACROSS THE STREET THERE ON NORTH MARKET AND WEST TABB STREET IS THE NAPA AUTO PARTS THAT I PURCHASED A COUPLE YEARS AGO AND HAVE RENTED BACK TO NAPA AS A PART OF THE PURCHASE, AND THEY STILL HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME LEFT ON THEIR THEIR LEASE.

THERE'S ANOTHER BUILDING THAT'S ATTACHED TO IT ON WEST TAB STREET RIGHT THERE. THAT IS ACTUALLY, I THINK, A BUILDING THAT NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT, WHICH IS THE PETERSBURG ARTILLERY THAT WAS BUILT IN 1843. AND BASICALLY IT HAS BEEN A MACHINE SHOP FOR SINCE BEFORE I WAS HERE. AND I'VE BEEN IN TOWN FOR 20 YEARS NOW. ACROSS THE STREET, COREY AND LORI BULLOCK OWNED THE PROPERTY THERE, WHICH WAS THE BUCKLEY LOCK AND KEY BUILDING. THEY HAVE BOUGHT THAT. AND THAT'S ALSO GOING TO BE DEVELOPED, WHICH I'LL GO THROUGH NEXT SLIDE.

THAT'S THE BUILDING OF MY ART MUSIC I GUESS COMPANY IS CALLED ARTFUL CLUTCH. I'M A PREVIOUS CREATIVE DIRECTOR FROM HAMILTON BEACH BRANDS OF 31 YEARS, MOVED HERE 20 YEARS AGO AND COMMUTED FROM THAT BUILDING AND ON HIGH STREET TO SHORT PUMP EVERY DAY. SO I GUESS I WAS COMMITTED TO PETERSBURG. ANYWAY, THAT BUILDING IS BEEN UPGRADED, HAD EVERYTHING DONE TO IT, FROM WATER SEWER TO WINDOWS TO EVERYTHING THAT YOU SEE THERE, AND OF COURSE BEAUTIFIED THE PROPERTY AND THAT THAT IS DONE. THERE'S NO NEED FOR PARKING HERE BECAUSE I HAVE PARKING UP FRONT, SO I DON'T NEED ANY SITE PARKING FOR THIS, THIS PROJECT. NEXT SLIDE. COREY AND LORI BULLOCK ARE THIS IS THE WHAT USED TO BE THE BUCKLEY KEY AND LOCK ON TAB STREET. I'M INVESTOR WITH THEM.

AND ACTUALLY THIS IS ALL GROUND UP STUFF THAT WE JUST DO AS FAR AS DEVELOPING PROPERTY THAT WE HAVE IN PETERSBURG. THE FIRST PROJECT COMING ON IS GOING TO BE ALTER ICE CREAM. THE INSIDE IS PRETTY MUCH 95% DONE, WHICH WILL BE BEAUTIFUL. EVERYBODY WILL BE HAPPY. IT HAS. HE COREY, HAS GONE THROUGH AND DONE THINGS LIKE RE PUT ALL THE ORIGINAL TEN BACK AS FAR AS THE DESIGN TEN CEILING. OF COURSE WE HAD TO GUT THE ENTIRE FRONT ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE FLOORBOARDS WERE RESET AND EVERYTHING. IT'LL BE BEAUTIFUL. IT IS BEAUTIFUL. KIND OF WAITING FOR SOME SOME WEATHER

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THERE WILL BE A NEED FOR PARKING FOR THAT. OTHER THAN JUST A COUPLE OF STREET PARKING PLACES.

NEXT SLIDE UPSTAIRS. THE SAME LOCATION IS A PROJECT ALSO CALLED TERRA. I'LL GO THROUGH WHAT THEY DO. THIS WILL BE A HIGH END UPSCALE RESTAURANT WINE BAR WHICH WILL HAVE A LARGE AREA THAT COREY IS A. ALSO, ASIDE FROM BEING A GREAT RESTORATOR OF OLD BUILDINGS, HE'S ACTUALLY A VERY. PUBLICIZED CHEF. HE WAS A CHEF AT LONG OVEN IN RICHMOND. HE WAS THE CHEF AT MAPLE AND PINE, WHICH WAS AT THE COURT HOTEL, AND HE'S ALSO MADE HIS WAY HERE ALONG WITH HIS FAMILY.

AND WE'VE BEEN HERE. OH, HE'S HERE. HIS WIFE'S VERY PREGNANT. AND THEY THEY DISAPPEARED FOR A SECOND, SO I THOUGHT MAYBE THINGS WERE HAPPENING. COREY HAS WORKED REAL HARD. THERE'S SOME OTHER THINGS WITH THIS PROJECT THAT YOU'LL PROBABLY SEE A COUNCIL IN HOPEFULLY A MONTH IN THE NEXT MONTH OR THE NEXT PUBLIC HEARING. IN ANY EVENT, THAT'S ANOTHER PROJECT. AND THAT WILL ALSO NEED SOME PARKING AS WELL. NEXT SLIDE. THIS IS ACTUALLY THE HISTORIC PHOTOGRAPH OF THE GUN HOUSE FROM 18. ACTUALLY THIS WAS 1865. THE BUILDING WAS WAS BORN, WAS BUILT IN 1843. AND THE PLANS THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, AS TO BASICALLY TURN THAT INTO A DOWNSTAIRS TASTING ROOM. I MEAN, WE KIND OF HAVE THIS WHOLE THING WHERE, ESPECIALLY WITH THE NEW HOTEL UP THE STREET ON TAB THAT THIS HOPEFULLY THIS, YOU KNOW, VISION OF THIS AREA IS TO, YOU KNOW, CO AND INDEPENDENTLY CREATE AN AREA WHERE IT'S ANOTHER WALKING PATH FOR MAYBE SOME OF THE HOTEL GUESTS, YOU KNOW OF COURSE GOING DOWN SYCAMORE AND HITTING THE RESTAURANTS THERE. BUT THEN ALSO HERE AND KIND OF RESTAURANTS, ICE CREAM SHOP POTENTIALLY A TASTING ROOM, WHICH WE CAN KIND OF GET INTO LATER. SO AGAIN, THIS ALSO WILL NEED PARKING DEPENDING ON WHAT WILL GO THERE.

NEXT SLIDE. AND THEN THE NAPA AUTO PARTS IS ACTUALLY A I HAD TO GO BACK TO THE BEGINNING OF TIME TO FIND ALL OF THE ALL OF THE SURVEYS ON THIS. THIS BUILDING WAS WELL, THERE WAS ANOTHER WHOLE BUILDING THERE. BUT THEN THIS BUILDING IS ACTUALLY IT'S KIND OF AN L SHAPE. THE PART THAT IS ON THE CORNER OF TAB AND NORTH MARKET COULD VERY EASILY BE ITS OWN AND ACTUALLY ONCE HAD ITS OWN ADDRESS. SO THERE'S THE POTENTIAL OF THAT BEING A DEVELOPMENT THAT MIGHT THAT MIGHT BE POTENTIALLY, YOU KNOW, PLANNED. I ALWAYS HAD THE CONCEPT OF WANTING TO DO A FRESH FOODS MARKET. I KNOW THERE'S BEEN QUITE A FEW OF THOSE TRYING TO POP UP IN RICHMOND, BUT I KNOW JUST RIGHT OUTSIDE IN THE LOBBY HERE AT THE LIBRARY AND WITH SOME OF THE PEOPLE WITH THE FARMERS MARKET, ALWAYS HAD A CONCEPT OF WANTING TO DO SOMETHING CALLED MARKET ON MARKET, WHICH IS ON NORTH MARKET STREET. THE OTHER PART OF IT, WHICH IS PROBABLY 5 OR 6000, WELL, IT'S ABOUT 4 TO 5000FT■S. THERE'S BEEN A THE POTENTIAL FOR A MUSIC VENUE THAT IS NOT JUST A BAR, BUT IS ACTUALLY A LIVE MUSIC VENUE THAT POTENTIALLY WILL ATTRACT SOME OF THE TOURING ACTS UP AND DOWN INTERSTATE 85, 95, THE CORRIDOR. SO THAT'S THAT'S ON THE EAST COAST. THAT'S A PRIMARY TOURING ROUTE. AND THAT'S WHY YOU SEE A LOT OF SHOWS IN RICHMOND, FREDERICKSBURG, WASHINGTON, DC, AND THEN OF COURSE SOUTH. SO THAT'S THAT WILL DEFINITELY NEED PARKING AS WELL. NEXT SLIDE. SO AS WE KIND OF OUTLINED THE ARTFUL CLUTCH IN THE BOTTOM LEFT HAND CORNER, THERE'S NO NEED FOR PARKING THERE. BUT ALL OF THE OTHER THAT WE WENT OVER ALTER TERRA THE GUN HOUSE AND THE POTENTIAL TURNING NAPA AROUND INTO SOMETHING DIFFERENT. WE WERE KIND OF PROPOSING, I MEAN, WE HAVE A LITTLE SIDE PARKING ON THE SIDE OF NAPA. THERE'S A REALLY ONLY, I THINK, 12 SPOTS, ONE OF THEM BEING HANDICAPPED AND REALLY LOOKING TO SECURE OWNED IN THAT THAT LITTLE PARKING THERE. NOT TO BE CONFUSED WITH THE TIERED LEVEL PARKING AND ALL THE PARKING DOWN ALONG THE BACK OF SOME OF THE CITY BUILDINGS THERE. NEW SLIDE. SO THIS IS IT SPECIFICALLY, WHICH IS THE ADDRESS. AND OF

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SO ANYWAY, THE YOU KNOW, WHAT WE PLAN TO DO THERE IS TO, OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, FIX, SEAL, CLEAN UP. RESEAL IT, REPAVE IT AND, AND UTILIZE IT BASICALLY. NEXT SLIDE WHAT WE'RE KIND OF GOING THROUGH I MEAN AS FAR AS WHAT WE'VE DONE BEFORE, JUST TO ADD, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT JUST A BUNCH OF GUYS THAT HAVE COME HERE AND DOING NOTHING OR WHATEVER. MY FIRST BUILDING THAT I DID WHEN I CAME TO PETERSBURG 20 YEARS AGO WAS RIGHT ACROSS FROM ANDRES, WHICH WAS THE LEGAL AID BUILDING AND, YOU KNOW, GUTTED THAT AND TURNED THAT INTO IT WAS A FLOWER SHOP AT ONE POINT. DIFFERENT THINGS HAVE BEEN IN THERE, AND I'VE SINCE THEN SOLD THAT. THE NEXT UP TOP IS THE BACK OF THAT BUILDING WHICH FACES BANK STREET, WHICH I OWN. THE PROPERTY THAT LOOKED THERE, AND I KIND OF MADE AN OLD GARAGE LOOK LIKE A, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER FRONT WHICH IS ALSO BEING USED TODAY. AND THEN ACROSS FROM DEMOLITION WAS MY ACTUAL WAS THE ARTFUL CLUTCH BEFORE, WHICH WAS A FEW DISTRIBUTION HOUSE AND A WHOLE BUNCH OF DIFFERENT THINGS BEFORE THAT. AND THEN I GUTTED AND COMPLETELY REFACED THAT. AND THEN, OF COURSE, WHAT YOU HAVE WITH THE ARTFUL CLUTCH BUILDING JUST RECENTLY, NEW SLIDE, OTHER THINGS THAT WE'VE KIND OF DONE HAVE BEEN, YOU KNOW, TO INVEST MY CREATIVE DIRECTION TIME INTO PETERSBURG OVER THE YEARS WITH THINGS LIKE DOING THE LOGO FOR IRON WORKS. OF COURSE, THESE ARE JUST RECENT THINGS, BUT ALTER ICE CREAM, DOING THEIR LOGO, THEIR WHOLE THING IS TO ALTER YOUR ATTITUDE. THAT'S THE NAME FOR ALTER. AND SO THE CONCEPT WAS, YOU KNOW, IF WE CAN MAKE MONA LISA SMILE, THEN I GUESS WE'LL GET SMILES WHEN PEOPLE EAT ICE CREAM. POPS HAVEN WAS A POP UP THAT THE CAMERON SOCIETY AND CULTURE WORKS AND ARTSPACE LOFTS GOT ME TO DO, WHICH WAS TO BASICALLY BUILD WHAT LOOKS LIKE A IN-HOUSE PHOTO ART STUDIO SLASH GALLERY FOR THEIR THEIR CENTER AREA THAT THEY WERE TRYING TO SHOW THAT COULD BE RENTED OUT TO DIFFERENT PEOPLE. OYSTER SOCIETY DID ALL THE BRANDING, DID THE PAINTINGS INSIDE THERE. BACK WHEN WE HAD THE OLD TOWN SQUARE, THERE WAS KIND OF AN IDEATION SESSION WHERE, YOU KNOW, I KIND OF DID A COUPLE OF OVERHEAD DRAWINGS ON WHAT COULD BE IF IT EVER WANTED TO BE AN OPEN SQUARE PIECE. NEXT SLIDE. AND FINALLY, YOU, TARA, WHICH IS THE TERRA AND ALTER ICE CREAM. THIS IS KIND OF JUST A SAMPLING OF WHAT COREY AND LORI BULLOCK DO IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, THEIR FOOD AND HOW THEY PRESENT THINGS ALL THE WAY FROM INCREDIBLE FOOD, INCREDIBLE CHEF SKILLS TO ALSO CREATING EVEN THE DISHES THAT THEY'RE SERVED IN, LIKE THE GLASSWARE AND THE BOWLS AND ALL THAT. SO IN ANY EVENT, WE HOPE THAT YOU TAKE CONSIDERATION OR PURCHASE OF THAT LITTLE LOT SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO FEED AND MAKE PETERSBURG GREAT. NEXT SLIDE AND THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. ROEBUCK, FOR THE PRESENTATION. ALL THE GREAT WORK YOU'VE DONE IN PETERSBURG FOR MANY YEARS. SO WE'LL OPEN UP THE FLOOR NOW FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING, WHICH IS FOR CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A PURCHASE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF PETERSBURG AND BERG ROAD PROPERTIES, LLC, TOWARDS THE SALE OF CITY OWNED PROPERTY AT 125 WEST HAM STREET.

JEFF FLEMING. JEFF FLEMING, 1819 TUCKER AVENUE, PETERSBURG, VIRGINIA. THE GREAT CITY THAT I LIVE IN. I'M ALL FOR THIS PROJECT. IT SOUNDS GOOD, AND I'M FAMILIAR WITH THE WORK THAT THE COMPANY HAS DONE IN OTHER PROJECTS, BUT I'M NOT NOT BEING ORIGINALLY HOMEGROWN HERE FROM PETERSBURG, I'M FROM NEW JERSEY, AND MY MOM ALWAYS MENTIONED MY MOM ALWAYS GAVE ME SANDS AND HELPED ME THROUGH LIFE STILL TO THIS DAY, AND ALSO SOME OF THE ENVIRONMENT THAT I GREW UP IN. I DON'T KNOW, PEOPLE SAW THE SHOW SOPRANOS. WELL, I GREW UP IN THAT KIND OF AREA AND MY MOM

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AND THEY TAUGHT ME A LOT OF THINGS. AND THIS DON'T TO ME IS WHAT IT'S CALLED. DON'T PASS THE SMELL TEST. THAT'S JUST ME. I COULD BE WRONG, BUT WHAT MAKES IT IS THE $20,000 PURCHASE PRICE. WHEN THE ASSESSED VALUE IS $70,400, THEY'RE WILLING TO PAY 20. BUT I NOTICED SOMETHING TODAY WALKING THROUGH THAT AREA, PARKING, EVEN IN THE LOT THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO BUY, WAS TAKEN BECAUSE THERE WAS SOMETHING GOING ON AT THE PETERSBURG HOTEL. SO THAT WAS LIKE, WHAT'S GOING ON DOWN HERE? YOU COULDN'T PARK ON THE STREET, YOU COULDN'T PARK IN ANY OF THE PARKING SPOTS BECAUSE SOMETHING WAS GOING ON DOWN THERE TODAY. THEN I COME AND SEE THIS, AND THEN THEY'RE GOING TO ASK HIM TO PAY $20,000. I, AS A CITIZEN, WHY SHOULD WE SELL THIS LOT FOR $20,000? WHY THEY SHOULD BE IN A BIDDING WAR WITH THE PETERSBURG HOTEL. WHY ARE WE SETTLING FOR 20,000 WHEN IT'S ASSESSED AT $70,400? THAT'S JUST A QUESTION I WANTED TO RAISE. THEN IT DOESN'T PASS THE SMELL TEST. THERE'S SOMETHING TO IT THERE. I JUST CAN'T PUT MY FINGER ON IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS PAULA CHESTER. PAULA CHESTER, 1013 OAKMONT DRIVE, PETERSBURG. AND LISTEN TO THIS PRESENTATION. I'M NOT SO SURE THAT IT SMELLS THE TEST EITHER. WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH NOT INCLUDING HALIFAX FEE AS BEING SOME OF THESE HISTORICAL SITES WHERE PEOPLE CAN COME IN AND BUILD. I WAS TOLD WHEN WE FIRST STARTED THIS PROJECT THAT HALIFAX WAS PART OF THE OLD HISTORY OF PETERSBURG. SO EVERYTHING SEEMS NOW TO ME THAT IT'S BEEN TARGETED DOWN ON SYCAMORE STREET AT THE OPPOSITE END. OF SYCAMORE STREET. WHY AREN'T WE PUSHING TO EXTEND SOME OF THOSE BUILDINGS THAT MAY NEED TO BE DEMOLISHED AND START PUSHING GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT HISTORY ON SYCAMORE? OR HALIFAX STREET? THAT IS MY CONCERN. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND JUST FOR THE RECORD, THIS IS FOR THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE PURCHASE AGREEMENT FOR THE VACANT LOT ON FOR PETERSBURG ROAD PROPERTIES LLC TOWARDS THE SALE OF CITY OWNED PROPERTY. MR. BOB RUDOLPH. THANK YOU. BARB RUDOLPH, 1675 MOUNT VERNON STREET. I THINK YOU GUYS HAVE TO KNOW WHAT I'M GOING TO SAY, BECAUSE I BROUGHT THIS UP BEFORE. EVERY TIME THERE'S AN OFFER, A LOWBALL OFFER TO BUY CITY PROPERTY, HOW MANY TIMES HAVE WE TALKED ABOUT THE 50%, MINIMUM, 50% OF ASSESSED VALUE? THIS DOES NOT MEET THAT AMOUNT. I'M NOT SURE WHY. I MEAN, I, I REALLY APPRECIATE THE VISION OF THE PROSPECTIVE PURCHASER AND, AND THE PEOPLE HE'S PARTNERING WITH. AND I WANT TO SEE ALL THESE ENTERPRISES SUCCEED AND MAKE THAT NEIGHBORHOOD SUCCESSFUL AND COMPLEMENT WHAT'S ALREADY GOING ON THERE. BUT WHY WITH ALL THIS THAT'S HAPPENED? WHY? WHY ARE WE JUST BACKTRACKING NOW TO SAYING WE'RE GOING TO SELL THE $70,400 ASSESSED VALUE PROPERTY FOR $20,000 WHEN WE SHOULD BE SELLING IT FOR $35,200 MINIMUM.

SO THAT REALLY NEEDS TO BE EXPLAINED, BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE IT'S I FEEL LIKE WE TALK ABOUT IT. AND COUNCIL AGREES THAT A 50% MINIMUM IS DESIRABLE AND MORE IS BETTER. WE'VE TALKED. I KNOW THAT COUNCILOR JONES, AMONG OTHERS, HAS TALKED ABOUT EVEN INCREASING IT ABOVE 50%, 50% SHOULD BE THE MINIMUM. THERE SHOULD IT SHOULD NOT GO BELOW THAT. IF THIS IF THIS IS SO DESIRABLE, I HAVE TO ALSO SAY IN THE CASE OF ME AND JEFF FLEMING, GREAT MINDS THINK ALIKE BECAUSE WE BOTH NOTICED THAT THIS PROPERTY IS WOULD SEEM TO BE A REALLY DESIRABLE PROPERTY TO THE HOTEL PETERSBURG. SO I WONDER, I MEAN, IS THE OWNERSHIP OF THE HOTEL PETERSBURG BEEN GIVEN AN OPTION TO PURCHASE THIS FOR $20,000 OR SOMETHING ELSE? I MEAN, I'M NOT GOING TO SUGGEST ANY POTENTIAL THINGS THAT MIGHT BE GOING ON, BUT IT'S JUST IT'S AN INTERESTING COMBINATION OF PROJECTS AND CIRCUMSTANCES. BUT AT THE VERY LEAST, MY CONCERN IS I WOULD I WOULD OPPOSE THIS TO BE SOLD FOR $20,000. THANK YOU. MR. GARY TALLEY. GARY TALLEY, SALE 2323 FORT RICE. I'LL JUST MAKE IT BRIEF. I ECHO THESE SAME THINGS. 28 428 FOUR 28.4% WHEN YOU'RE KEEPING OUR REAL ESTATE

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THANK YOU. YES, MA'AM. YES. THANK YOU. HI Y'ALL. NICE TO SEE SOME OF Y'ALL AGAIN. I'M NAME AND ADDRESS DENISE TIPTON AT 212 EAST BANK STREET. THANK YOU. I SUPPORT THE SALE OF THIS LOT TO THE FELLOW BUSINESS OWNERS. PARKING IS ESSENTIAL TO THE SUCCESS OF BUSINESS IN THE OLD TOWN AREA, AS MANY BUILDINGS ARE BEING MADE INTO APARTMENTS, PUBLIC PARKING WILL BE EVEN MORE DIFFICULT TO FIND. PLUS WE NEED SAFE AND LOCAL PARKING. HAVING BUSINESSES IN PETERSBURG HAS BEEN VERY DIFFICULT TO HAVE. CUSTOMERS HAVE A PLACE TO PARK. I BELIEVE THAT THESE PEOPLE HAVE PUT IN A LOT OF TIME AND A LOT OF MONEY INTO WHAT THEY'VE BEEN DOING. THE HOTEL DOESN'T OWN THAT LOT, SO I MEAN, I DON'T REALLY THINK THAT'S RELEVANT. THEY HAVEN'T PROPOSED TO COME OVER HERE AND BUY THIS LOT. SO I DON'T THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO EVEN DISCUSS.

HONESTLY. I JUST THINK THAT WE NEED GOOD HIGH END BUSINESS THAT WILL ATTRACT OUR CUSTOMERS, INCLUDING OUR HOTEL GUESTS. AND I JUST THINK THAT WE SHOULD GIVE SOME CONSIDERATION TO THIS.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. SEEING NO OTHER HANDS, THIS. OH, YES. YES, MA'AM. OKAY. GOOD EVENING. HI. ANDREA MATTHEWS, 250 NORTH SYCAMORE. ANDREA MATTHEWS 250 NORTH SYCAMORE.

OKAY. VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF THESE MULTIPLE MAGNIFICENT BUSINESS OWNERS PUTTING THEIR HEARTS AND SOULS INTO HISTORIC PETERSBURG. I HAVE KNOWN ALL OF THEM FOR SEVERAL DECADES NOW, AND NOT ONE OF THEM HAVE DONE ANYTHING THAT HAS DONE ANYTHING LESS THAN BE A COMPLETE SUCCESS.

100% ALL FOR IT. HOWEVER, IT CAN SHAKE OUT. OKAY. THANK YOU. CAN I INTERJECT? SHE ASKED A GOOD QUESTION. SHE SAID, IS THIS THE A PUBLIC PARKING IT WOULD BE. I MEAN THIS IS FOR THE CUSTOMERS OF THE AREA. COME TO THE MICROPHONE REAL QUICK. I JUST WANT YOU TO STATE THAT FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT. I JUST WAS SAYING THAT SHE ASKED A GOOD QUESTION IF IT WAS GOING TO BE PUBLIC PARKING OR PRIVATE PARKING, IT WOULD BE PUBLIC. IT WOULD BE FOR THE CUSTOMERS OF I MEAN, WHO'S GOING TO SAY WHERE, WHICH ADDRESS THEY'RE GOING TO, BUT THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE ADDRESSING. THE NEED OF IS FOR MORE PARKING. OKAY. IS THAT IT? THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU, MISS CARA STEVENS. ALL. I, I HAD TWO QUESTIONS. ONE OF THEM WOULD BE, EVEN THOUGH IT'S PUBLIC, WOULD IT BE PUBLIC FOR ONLY THOSE BUSINESSES? BECAUSE I'M PRETTY SURE MORE BUSINESSES WOULD START TO GROW OR COME INTO THE AREA THAT WOULD NEED PARKING AS WELL,

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YOU KNOW, NOBODY'S SAYING ANYTHING ABOUT THAT. BUT I THINK MOVING FORWARD, BEING THAT WE ARE, IT'S A NEW DAY THAT WE NEED TO RETHINK HOW THE WAY WE NEGOTIATE THINGS. SO IF WE DO TAKE THIS ROUTE, THEN WE NEED TO DIRECT OUR CITY MANAGER TO GET A FAIR AND EQUITABLE COST FOR US.

AND THERE WAS A AN EVENT THAT THE PHARMACEUTICAL PLANT WAS DOING AT THE HOTEL TODAY, WHICH TOOK UP PARKING. BUT THE HOTEL, THEY PRETTY MUCH HAD FIRST DIBS ON THE PARKING LOT WHEN IT WAS BUILDING AND WHAT HAVE YOU. SO ONE DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE OTHER. SO IT'S LIKE, IF I WANT TO BUY SOMETHING, WHY WOULD YOU GO TO SOMEBODY ELSE AND ASK THEM THAT? DO YOU WANT TO BUY IT TOO? I MEAN, I BELIEVE IN BEING COMPETITIVE. OF COURSE THEY'RE GOING TO SAY, YEAH, WELL, I WANT TO LOOK AT IT. BUT THEY THEY KNEW WHAT THEY WERE CREATING. AS FAR AS BEING A HOTEL, THIS, THAT AND THE OTHER. AND SO I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE FOR THAT.

BUT I DO THINK IF WE DO GO THROUGH THIS, THAT OUR CITY MANAGER NEEDS TO NEGOTIATE A FAIR AND EQUITABLE CAUSE TO THIS, AS OPPOSED TO THE REGULAR, YOU KNOW, $20,000, BECAUSE, I MEAN, WE BOUGHT A LOT AS A CITY. WE JUST PURCHASED PROPERTY DOWN ON SYCAMORE STREET AREA AND DIFFERENT PLACES. AND THAT'S OUR GOAL IS TO MAKE MORE PARKING BECAUSE AS WE KNOW, WE'RE HOTEL HOTELS OF RESTAURANTS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE ARE COMING UP AND WE NEED TO HAVE PARKING FOR THEM. WE EVEN, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THINKING ABOUT DOING A PARKING DISC DOWN IN OLD TOWN. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE UNDERSTAND THAT AND WHAT HAVE YOU. BUT MY ISSUE WAS NOT US SELLING IT TO THEM. MY ISSUE IS AT WHAT COST? JUST AT WHAT COST? BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW, YOU GO THROUGH THERE AND IT MAY NOT BE THAT MANY MORE PARKING CARS, CARS IN THAT PARKING LOT FOR THE NEXT 3 OR 4 MONTHS. AND THEN YOU GO BACK THERE. IT MAY BE ONE CAR THERE OR NO CAR THERE. AS YOU CAN TELL, AS A CITY, WE HAVEN'T BEEN KEEPING IT UP AS WELL. SO IF IT HAS THE POTENTIAL FOR US TO HAVE A BUSINESS TO COME THERE THAT WE CAN GET MORE TAX REVENUE FROM, AND THAT'S WHAT WE LOOK AT ON THE, ON THE BACK END AND WHAT HAVE YOU. THEN I HAVE NO PROBLEMS WITH SELLING IT, BUT AT WHAT COST. AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT MOST OF THE PEOPLE ARE SAYING. THEY PEOPLE ARE JUST TIRED OF, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT TO GIVE OUR, OUR PROPERTIES AWAY. SO THAT'S, THAT'S I'LL BE IN FAVOR OF US THAT THE CITY MANAGER WOULD NEGOTIATE A FAIR AND EQUITABLE CALLS FOR THAT, BUT NOT THE $20,000. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. ALL RIGHT, COUNCILMAN JONES. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. SO.

MAN, YOU DIDN'T EVEN HAVE TO GIVE THE PRESENTATION. ALL YOU DID WAS SAY, Y'ALL DID THIS, AND THIS IS WHAT I WANT TO DO. THIS PROPERTY. I'VE SEEN YOUR WORK. I ADMIRE YOUR WORK. LET'S BE REAL, EVERYBODY. NOBODY WAS THINKING ABOUT THIS LOT UNTIL SOMEBODY COME UP AND WANTING TO BUY IT, YOU KNOW, NOBODY WAS THINKING ABOUT IT, AND THIS MAN WANTED TO BUY IT. AND EVERYBODY. BUT WHAT ABOUT HOTEL PETERSBURG? WELL, AND I DON'T MEAN NO DISRESPECT ABOUT HOTEL PETERSBURG, BUT THEY

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IN THIS CASE, I WANT TO SELL IT. BUT I WANT TO ASK YOU RIGHT NOW WHY YOU'RE HERE. COULD YOU DO IT 100%, IF NOT 175% OF THE ASKING PRICE? I'M ASKING YOU, NO, YOU COULDN'T. IT DOESN'T REALLY WORK. YOU WOULDN'T FINANCIALLY WORK. PLUS, THE. JUST TO CLARIFY. CAN I? SO JUST TO CLARIFY, IN THE SMELL TEST NOW, I AIN'T WORRIED ABOUT THE SMELL TEST BECAUSE I KNOW HOW I KNOW HOW EVERYTHING SMELL. I'M JUST RESPONDING. I'M JUST SAYING 28% IS LOW AND I KNOW WHY WAS OFFERED BECAUSE IT'S STILL IN THE BOOKS TO OFFER THAT MUCH. WELL, WHAT I WAS WHAT WAS IN YOU? IS THERE ANY MORE MONEY IN YOUR POCKETS THAT YOU CAN SAY, WELL, I OFFER Y'ALL THIS. I MEAN, JUST BECAUSE I LOOK GOOD, IT DOESN'T MEAN I HAVE A LOT OF MONEY. NO. ONE THING THAT I WANT TO CLARIFY IS IN GOING THROUGH THIS. ACTUALLY, I WENT THROUGH THIS A YEAR AGO. RIGHT. AND I THOUGHT IT WAS BROUGHT TO IT WAS BROUGHT TO COUNCIL. AND AT THAT POINT I WAS TOLD THAT THE CITY HALL BUILDING WAS GOING TO BE SOLD, AND THIS LOT WAS POTENTIALLY MAYBE GOING TO GO WITH THAT. SO AND THEN BOTTOM LINE, DONE. RIGHT. ALSO HEARD THAT, YOU KNOW, THE HOTEL CAME ONLINE AND THERE IS A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF ALLOCATED PUBLIC PARKING SPACES IN THAT TIERED PARKING LOT. THAT WAS 100% ALL PARCELED OUT AS, AS PUBLIC PARKING THAT HAD BEEN ALLOCATED TO THE HOTEL AND STILL HAVE YET TO KNOW WHETHER THAT WAS A LEASE, WHETHER THAT WAS A PURCHASE, WHETHER I DON'T KNOW. SO BASICALLY, TO GET PARKING FOR THE DEVELOPMENT THAT WE ARE INDIVIDUALLY PUTTING OUR PERSONAL DOLLARS IN. YOU KNOW, WE NEED PARKING. I MEAN, WE'VE KIND OF PROVEN THAT CASE, RIGHT. AND THE REASON WHY THE IT WAS THE $20,000 NUMBER IS BECAUSE WHAT I WAS TOLD WAS THAT THERE WAS A 50% OF ALLOWANCE ON, ON PROPERTIES BEING SOLD, I HEARD THEN IT WENT UP TO 75%. AND THEN I'VE HEARD THAT IT HAS GONE DOWN TO ZERO. THAT IS JUST AN OFFER.

AND YOU CAN MAKE THAT OFFER. THAT IS WHERE THE 20%. BUT WHETHER OR NOT IT WAS RIGHT OR WRONG OR INDIFFERENT THAT. SO IF I COULD JUST TO SAY TO CLARIFY, WE WERE AT 70, AT 50 THERE WAS A DISCUSSION OF GOING TO 75, AND ULTIMATELY COUNCIL TOOK AWAY THE PERCENT REQUIREMENT COMPLETELY, AND WE HAVEN'T READDRESSED IT SINCE THEN. SO WE'RE WE'RE BACK DOWN TO WHATEVER THE OFFER IS, IS. SO WE DON'T HAVE REALLY A 50% POLICY. YEAH. SO I'M NOT I'M NOT TRYING TO THE CITY OR THE SMELL TEST OR ANY OF THAT. AS A MATTER OF FACT, I PAY A LOT OF TAX DOLLARS IN ALL THE PROPERTIES THAT I DO OWN. LET ME ASK YOU THIS. HAVE YOU CONSIDERED HAVE WE CONSIDERED LEASING IT TO HIM FOR AMOUNT OF FOR SEVEN YEARS AT $10,000 A YEAR UNTIL IT'S PAID FOR, AND WE HAVE 100% THAT WAY, AND IT'S YOURS IF YOU CONSIDER THAT. I MEAN, WE CAN TALK ABOUT WE CAN TALK ABOUT ALL THAT NEGOTIATION, THE PROBLEM THAT I HAVE WITH THE LEASING AND NOT DEDICATED AND OWNED IS BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF MARCH IS GOING TO BE HERE, IF MAYOR IS GOING TO BE HERE IN TWO YEARS OR WHAT, OR WHOEVER. AND I'VE BEEN HERE LONG ENOUGH TO KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, THINGS CHANGE. YEAH, YEAH. AND THINGS CAN BE PULLED BACK. AND, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WE HAD THE RAMADA.

I MEAN, WE'VE WE'VE GONE THROUGH SOME STUFF HERE. SO THIS WAS JUST A SIMPLE PURCHASE AGREEMENT BASED ON A DEVELOPMENT FOR THIS AREA THAT ALLOCATED PARKING. AND TODAY I, YOU KNOW, I BEG TO DIFFER ON ALL THE EXTRA PARKING BECAUSE I WAS ACTUALLY WORKING FOR SIX HOURS PULLING OUT OLD PIPES AND STUFF OUT OF THE GUN HOUSE. AND I THINK THERE MAY HAVE BEEN SOME CONFUSION, BECAUSE ALL THE PARKING THAT I SAW FOR THE EVENT WAS IN THE TIERED LEVEL PARKING, AND I DON'T BELIEVE THAT ANY WAS IN THIS PARKING SPACE, IN THIS, IN THIS LOT. SO THE FEW 1 OR 2 CARS THAT ARE THERE OCCASIONALLY ARE ACTUALLY THE PEOPLE THAT WORK AT NAPA THAT JUST WANT TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE THEIR CAR IN THE BACK. SO IN THE WORDS OF TONY VENABLE, IF I HAD IT, YOU CAN GET IT BECAUSE I WANT TO SEE YOU WITH IT. MR. CITY MANAGER, THE MAN SAID HE'S WILLING TO LOOK AT

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YES. AND ALL THAT. YOU KNOW, IT WAS IT WAS OWNED BY THE SUTTLES AND THEN THE CITY AND THEN, YOU KNOW, AND EVERYBODY JUST, YOU KNOW, GOT TO PARK IN THE SPACE, YOU KNOW, WHETHER OR NOT KNOWING, YOU KNOW, WHETHER OR NOT I'M GOING TO BE THERE TRACKING PEOPLE DOWN AND SAYING, DID THEY GO IN TO GET AN ICE CREAM? AND YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT WHAT I DO OR WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO. I WILL SAY AGAIN, FOR THE RECORD THAT, YOU KNOW, TODAY WITH THE SOLD OUT EVENT, WHICH I HOPE HOTEL PETERSBURG CONTINUES TO DO THAT EVERY DAY. I WILL SAY THAT TODAY, YOU KNOW, I WAS ON SITE AND THAT LOT WAS ONE OF WHICH THAT WASN'T BEING USED. IT WAS ALL THE TIERED LOT PARKING ALONG THERE. SO IF THAT WAS FULL CAPACITY, THEN AND WE'RE LOOKING AT ALL THE TIERED PARKING WAS FINE THEN, THEN I THINK WE'RE STILL GOOD. BUT YES, DEFINITELY OPEN TO, YOU KNOW, THE POTENTIAL OF WORKING WITH WHOEVER. AND UNLESS IT BECAME A MAJOR ISSUE WITH I MEAN, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF OTHER DEVELOPMENTS THAT CAN REALLY HAPPEN. THERE'S BETWEEN THAT PROPERTY, THE NAPA AND ALL AROUND THERE ACROSS THE STREET. THE REALLY THE ONLY TWO OTHER PROPERTIES OVER THERE IS THE HOUSE THAT CONTINUES TO BE WORKED ON RIGHT NEXT DOOR. AND THE PITMAN'S LAW OFFICE, WHICH, YOU KNOW, IF HE THROWS PARTIES, IT'S GOING TO BE AT STRAWBERRY HILL. AND THEN THE, THE PERMITS AND PLANNING BUILDING, THAT'S, THAT'S VACANT. NOW, YOU KNOW, MAYBE SOMETHING WILL BE SOLD AND GO THERE. BUT FOR THE MOST PART, YEAH, DEFINITELY. IT'S YOU KNOW, I'M NOT I DON'T THINK I'M GOING TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, TOWING SERVICES GOING THROUGH PLACES LIKE MASON TRANSFER AND SOME OF THE OTHER PLACES. SO IT'S REALLY JUST, YOU KNOW, FIND A HOME FOR PEOPLE THAT WANT TO, YOU KNOW, GO TO THE WINE BAR OR FOR A POP UP OF 24 PEOPLE FOR UTTARA THAT, YOU KNOW, IS A GREAT EVENT. AND SO, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF CARS, THERE'S ONLY ABOUT REALLY 36 SPACES, I

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WELL, I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT NO ONE SEEMS TO UNDERSTAND THAT IF YOU'RE GOING TO LEASE IT IN MARLOW. I SUPPORT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, MARLOW. BUT THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS, IF YOU'RE GOING TO LEASE IT, IS THE CITY GOING TO PAY TO HAVE IT REPAIRED? AND HOW MUCH IS THAT GOING TO COST? AND I CAN GUARANTEE YOU, IS ANYWHERE FROM 30 TO $40,000, PERIOD. PUT IT BACK IN SHAPE.

NOW HE WANTS TO BUY IT FOR 20,000. IF YOU CAN COME UP TO 2500, I MIGHT GET EVERYBODY TO SUPPORT YOU. CAN YOU DO THAT FOR ME? 2500? NO, I'M SORRY, 25,000. I TRY TO GIVE YOU A BREAK. OKAY.

CAN YOU DO 25 FOR ME, PLEASE? YES. ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT. SO, MISTER, MISTER MAYOR AND EVERYBODY ELSE, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION HERE. IF EVERYBODY IS SUPPORTIVE OF IT, IS THAT I MOVE, THAT WE ALLOW THE CITY MANAGER TO CREATE A PURCHASE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF PETERSBURG AND BERG ROAD PROPERTIES, LLC TOWARDS THE SALE OF CITY OWNED PROPERTY AT 125 WEST HAM STREET, PARCEL 011230037. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, VICE MAYOR HILL. OH. FOR $25,000, I SECOND THAT MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL RIGHT, MISS, WILL YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL COUNCIL MEMBER CUTHBERT? NO, I DON'T THINK IT'S ENOUGH MONEY. I DON'T KNOW WHY WE. WELL, I KNOW DOWN THE STREET GOT MORE THAN $25,000 FROM THE CITY OF PETERSBURG. I DON'T KNOW WHY WE'RE GIVING THIS AWAY. SO NO COUNCIL MEMBER. JONES. COUNCIL MEMBER. MYERS. COUNCIL MEMBER. WESTBROOK. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER. LEE. AYE. VICE MAYOR. HILL. AYE.

MAYOR. PARA. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER. JONES. OKAY. CAN I. CAN I SAY SOMETHING? SURE. WE NEED TO FIX THIS. YES, WE NEED TO FIX THIS. BUT I ALSO WANT TO SAY THIS HOTEL PETERSBURG IS NOT THE ONLY BUSINESS DOWNTOWN. AMEN. YOU KNOW, WE KEEP REFERENCING THEM LIKE THEY. SOME SUPERPOWER OF THE BUSINESS IS DOWNTOWN. THEY ARE NOT THE ONLY BUSINESS. THERE'S BEEN BUSINESSES DOWN THERE BEFORE. HOTEL PETERSBURG, AND I DON'T AGREE WITH THE PRICE, BUT WHAT I DO AGREE WITH IS IT'S GOING TO BEAUTIFY PARKING, MAKE PARKING ATTRACTIVE. IT'S GOING TO BRING MORE PEOPLE DOWN THAT AREA TO BE ABLE TO WALK, PARK AND WALK. IT'S GOING TO DO SO MUCH AND IT'S GOING TO COST US BECAUSE WE SELL IT FOR 25. BUT ON THE FLIP SIDE OF THAT, I DON'T WANT TO SELL NOTHING ELSE, JUST LOW MAN. IT REALLY IRKS ME, BUT I KNOW THERE'S A GOOD THING GOING TO HAPPEN TO IT BECAUSE I SEEN THE QUALITY OF WORK FROM THIS THING. SO MR. MOORE, MR. CITY MANAGER, GOOD JOB, FIX THIS COUNCIL. CAN WE FIX THIS? THANK YOU. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MR. ROEBUCK. THANK YOU. AND THE TEAM. THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO FOR PETERSBURG. WE LOOK LOOKING FORWARD FOR ALL THAT NEW DEVELOPMENT AND CAN'T WAIT TO SEE THAT NEW RESTAURANT, AN ICE CREAM SHOP, BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T SNOWED TOMORROW, BUT IT'S GOING TO GET HOT AND WE'RE GOING TO BE

[9. Public Information Period]

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REMOVE FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA. WE'LL START OFF WITH MISS PAULA CHESTER. PAULA CHESTER, 1013 OAKMONT DRIVE, PETERSBURG. COMING BACK TO YOU ALL WITH THE SAME CONCERN THAT IT WAS ALL LAST YEAR. THE BRIDGE ON OAK HILL ROAD. MR. ALDERMAN, I THINK DURING THE LAST MEETING IN THE MEETING OF DECEMBER, YOU HAD STATED THAT PROBABLY BY JANUARY OR FEBRUARY, THAT YOU MAY HAVE MORE INFORMATION TO BRING US. AND SO I'M HOPING THAT YOU HAVE A TARGET DATE AS TO WHEN WE MAY START ON THAT PROJECT. NEXT CONCERN IS THAT FOR US HAVING THE INTEREST FROM CHESTERFIELD, I BROUGHT THAT UP LAST YEAR FROM CHESTERFIELD OVER BY THE BRIDGE OF APPOMATTOX UNIVERSITY BOULEVARD. THAT STREET, UNIVERSITY BOULEVARD, THAT TRIANGLE SURROUNDING THE GROVE AVENUE IS IN IS IN BAD SHAPE. I MEAN, IT'S EMBARRASSING. AND IF YOU WANT TO HAVE AN INTEREST FROM EACH QUARTER OF THE CITY THAT WAS TRULY NEEDS TO BE REPAIRED. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

NEXT, MR. BILL HARTSOCK. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. MAYOR. VICE MAYOR HILL, BILL HARTSOCK, 239 HIGH STREET, PETERSBURG, ON OCTOBER 30TH OF 2024, WE HAD A GROUNDBREAKING FOR THE SYCAMORE GROVE DEVELOPMENT AT 801 SOUTH ADAMS STREET. THE GOVERNOR WAS THERE. CITY OFFICIALS WERE THERE. SOME OF THEM PARTICIPATED OF DIRT THAT WAS DUG UP BY ALL THE SHOVELS IS STILL THERE.

NOTHING ELSE HAS BEEN DUG UP. WE ARE NOW SEVERAL MONTHS PAST THAT POINT. THE CITY OF PETERSBURG RESIDENTS ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO A SUPERMARKET, GROCERY STORE, ALL THE OTHER DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE PLANNED FOR THAT, THAT PROJECT. THE DEVELOPER HAS NOT BEGUN WORK, AND THAT IS BECAUSE THE PROPERTY HAS NEVER BEEN TRANSFERRED TO THE DEVELOPER AND THE DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION TO BEGIN WORK. IF YOU WILL RECALL, ON OCTOBER 17TH OF 2023, A RESOLUTION WAS PASSED BY COUNCIL TO TRANSFER THAT PROPERTY TO THE DEVELOPER. NOTHING HAS HAPPENED. THE CITY MANAGER AND THE CITY ATTORNEY HAVE NOT PROCEEDED BASED ON THE RESOLUTION THAT WAS PASSED BY COUNCIL TO TRANSFER THAT PROPERTY TO THE DEVELOPER TO BEGIN WORK. AS OF TWO HOURS BEFORE THIS MEETING, IT WAS STILL THE PROPERTY OF THE CITY OF PETERSBURG. I'M ASKING WHY NOTHING HAS HAPPENED, WHY IT HAS NOT BEEN PUT FORWARD TO GET THE WORK STARTED. I AM SURE THAT THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE IS PROBABLY CONCERNED, BECAUSE THAT WAS ONE OF THE KEYSTONES OF HIS PARTNERSHIP FOR PETERSBURG PROGRAM THAT BROUGHT HIM HERE TO MAKE A SPEECH TO HELP WITH THE GROUNDBREAKING. AND. WE'RE WAITING. WE'RE WAITING TO SEE WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. NOTHING'S HAPPENING. IT CAN'T HAPPEN UNTIL THAT PROPERTY IS TRANSFERRED TO THE DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION TO DO THE WORK. SO I'M ASKING WHY THAT HAS NOT HAPPENED. AND I LEAVE IT IN YOUR HANDS, OKAY? BECAUSE WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO THE GROCERY STORE. WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO DEVELOPMENT. IT'S SITTING THERE VACANT. SO OKAY. THANK YOU. ENOUGH SAID. APPRECIATE IT. THANKS, MR. MICHAEL ROBINSON.

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KARA STEVENS. GOOD EVENING AGAIN. GOOD EVENING. 226 ROLFE STREET ON FEBRUARY 6TH. WHEN I CAME HOME, ME AND A FEW OF MY NEIGHBORS, WHEN WE CAME HOME TO NO PARKING SIGNS. IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH POCAHONTAS ISLAND, YOU KNOW THAT WE ONLY CAN PARK ON THE STREET FOR A LOT OF OUR HOUSES, SO FOR US TO COME HOME AND SEE THAT WE CAN'T PARK AT HOME, NOT ONLY WERE WE CONFUSED, BUT IT WAS NO NOTICE, NO JUSTIFICATION. I CALLED THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. SO DID ONE OF MY NEIGHBORS. NO ONE GOT BACK WITH US. WE CALLED THE DAY OF THAT. THEY HAD THE INITIAL PARKING FOR BECAUSE IT WAS FOR A 12 HOUR PERIOD. NO ONE STILL CALLED BACK BECAUSE I KNOW THEY SAID SERGEANT OR FIRST SERGEANT JONES, SOMEONE FOR TRAFFIC OR PARKER. SO THE ADMIN HAD AND SENT THE EMAIL WITH MY NAME AND MY PHONE NUMBER TO THE ACTUAL OFFICER, AND NO ONE HAS GOTTEN BACK WITH ME STILL YET. IF THEY WERE OUT OF THE OFFICE AT THAT POINT. BUT WE WERE ALL JUST FRUSTRATED, AND I THINK IT KIND OF WAS A NUISANCE TO NOT HAVE TOUCHED. NO ONE TOUCHED BASES WITH US, EVEN AFTER THE FACT THAT YOU COME HOME AND YOU CAN'T COME HOME, ESPECIALLY SINCE ONE OF MY NEIGHBORS, WHEELCHAIR BOUND, AND THEIR CHILDREN TAKE CARE OF THEM. SO THERE'S MULTIPLE VEHICLES AND THEN THEY CAN'T PARK AT THEIR PARENTS HOME. THEN MY OTHER NEIGHBOR HAS NO DRIVEWAY AT ALL, AND THEY ONLY THEY, THEY STRICTLY RELY FOR STREET PARKING. AND THEY'RE ELDERLY, AS YOU KNOW, MOST RESIDENTS ARE THERE. SO IT WAS JUST A HASSLE TO COME HOME TO THAT. AND STILL NOTHING FROM THE CITY. AS TO SAYING WHAT HAPPENED WITH THAT, IT WAS WE WERE ALL KIND OF AN UPROAR ABOUT IT BECAUSE IT WAS JUST OUT OF THE BLUE AND NO ONE HAS SAID ANYTHING TO US. AND WE REACHED OUT AND REACHED OUT AGAIN. SOMETHING THAT JUST HAPPENED RECENTLY. I KNOW BEFORE IT WAS A GENTLEMAN THAT USUALLY IS HERE. I FORGOT HIS NAME, BUT USUALLY WE CAN LET HIM KNOW WHEN THE PLUMBING IS CLOGGED OR SOMETHING ON THE STREET. SO IT'S THE STREET THAT IS COMING OUT OF POCAHONTAS. WHEN YOU PASS IN THE CIVIC, THEY HAVE TO CLOSE OFF THE STREET LIKE YOU'RE GOING TOWARDS. YOU PASSING, OR YOU DON'T TURN DOWN THAT STREET YET.

IT'S LIKE THAT BACK. YEAH, BECAUSE IT FLOODS. IT DOESN'T FLOOD, BUT IT'S CLOGGED BECAUSE THE ROUND PIECE WHERE THE SEWAGE COMES UP AND FLOATS OUT AND IT'S WATER ALL EVERYWHERE. IT'S CLOGGED AND IT'S LIKE STICKS AND DEBRIS COMING OUT OF THE SEWAGE. SO THAT PLUMBING RIGHT THERE IS CLOGGED. AND IT CAUSED STUFF TO FLOAT UP OUT OF IT. YEAH. SO THAT WAS SOMETHING ELSE THAT JUST HAPPENED RECENTLY. BUT YEAH, THE NO PARKING ON FEBRUARY 6TH OR IT WAS THE SEVENTH, FEBRUARY 6TH, I CAME HOME. SO IT HAD TO BE THE SEVENTH THAT WE HAD BOTH OF THOSE PERIODS, SIX AND THE SEVENTH, WE HAD NO PARKING. AND THEN OF RECENTLY THAT WE JUST I CAN LOOK IN MY PHOTOS FOR THAT RECENTLY. WE HAD THE WATER THERE WHEN IT RAINED, WHICH WAS ON SUNDAY. OKAY. THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE IT. NEXT IS MARLOW GREEN. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING, CITY COUNCIL. MARLOW GREEN THREE OH. SORRY. 301 ROFF STREET. I'M GONNA GO AS QUICKLY AS I CAN. SO I JUST WANT TO INTRODUCE. I'M HERE TONIGHT AS THE FOUNDER AND PRESIDENT OF OUR COMMUNITY EMPOWERMENT GROUP, WHICH IS A NON PROFIT ORGANIZATION COMMITTED TO REVITALIZING MARGINALIZED COMMUNITIES THROUGH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, BEAUTIFICATION AND EXPANDED RECREATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES. WE HAVE A VERY STRONG BOARD CONSIST OF AUDITORS, CPAS, MYSELF, HISTORIANS, MENTAL HEALTH EXPERTS AND FUNDRAISERS. WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING ON AN ATTORNEY. GO TO PAGE TWO, PLEASE. BIG THANKS TO THOSE WHO HAVE ALREADY SIGNED UP FOR OUR

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HOWEVER, THE BID SET, WHICH THIS IS A PART OF, IS DATED 2022. SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL READING OFF THE SAME SHEET OF MUSIC AS IT RELATES TO THE PROPOSAL THAT CAME FROM THE TREATMENT PLANT, AS THIS IS DATED 2022. AND SO I KNOW MR. ALTMAN IS RESPONSIBLE FOR REPORTING BACK TO CITY COUNCIL IN MARCH, AND I URGE THE CITY TO PLEASE THOROUGHLY INVESTIGATE THE RELOCATION OF THE ROAD. I ALSO SUGGEST THAT HAZEN AND SAWYER, WHO IS THE ENVIRONMENTAL FIRM THAT WAS USED BY THE TREATMENT PLANT, MAYBE WE COULD REACH OUT TO THEM AND HAVE A CONVERSATION TO ACTUALLY THOROUGHLY INVESTIGATE THAT RELOCATION. PAGE FOUR. THANK YOU, MR. VAN VOORHEES. AND SO SHOUT OUTS TO MR. ARNOLD WESTBROOK. YOU ALWAYS MENTION KNOWLEDGE IS POWER. AND THIS IS MY KNOWLEDGE IS POWER PAGE. I THOUGHT ABOUT YOU WHEN I DID THIS. AND SO JUST TO LET THE CITY OF PETERSBURG KNOW RESIDENTS WHOMEVER THIS MAY APPLY TO, THERE ARE TWO VERY VALUABLE, IMPORTANT PROGRAMS THAT ARE OUT THERE FOR ALL CITY PETERSBURG RESIDENTS. EXCUSE ME. SELECTED POPULATIONS. THE XFINITY ESSENTIALS AFFORDABLE INTERNET. YOU CAN CALL 18558 INTERNET I N T E R N E T FOR LOW COST INTERNET ACCESS. THE PEOPLE WHO ARE ELIGIBLE, FOLKS WHO HAVE TAKEN SSI, TANF OR ANY DISABILITY. THE OTHER GREAT PROGRAM WHICH IS FREE AND IS UP TO $8,000 TO MAKE YOUR HOME BARRIER FREE, IS THE VIRGINIA HOUSING GRANT. AS I STATED, IT'S UP TO $8,000 TO INSTALL RAMPS AND CHAIRLIFTS IN YOUR HOUSE.

CONTACT MARCIA AT (800) 435-3650 THREE FOR DETAILS. THERE'S MORE INFORMATION IN MY NEWSLETTER FOR HER EMAIL AND OTHER INFORMATION. SO IF YOU WANT TO SIGN UP FOR THE NEWSLETTER, I HAVE THE QR CODES IN THE BACK AND YOU CAN ALSO REACH ME DIRECTLY AT GREEN AT. ORG AGAIN, GREEN AT G. ORG, AND ANY PROGRAM REVENUES WE MAKE THROUGH OCR WILL BE UTILIZED FOR POCAHONTAS ISLAND HISTORIC DISTRICT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MARLA. NEXT, CAPTAIN JEFFREY FLEMING. JEFF FLEMING, 1819 SARATOGA AVENUE IN THE GREAT CITY OF PETERSBURG. I'M NOT HERE TO FUSS NOBODY OUT. OKAY, THAT THAT'S DONE FOR TONIGHT. WHAT I WANT TO ASK IS EVERYONE BE SAFE. WE GOT THIS STORM COMING. IT'S THE MOST SNOW WE'VE HAD HERE IN PETERSBURG IN A WHILE, PREDICTED THE GOVERNOR. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE AWARE. DECLARED A STATE OF EMERGENCY. MOST PEOPLE DON'T KNOW. THE STATE OF EMERGENCY MEANS. IT MEANS IF YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO OUT, DON'T GO OUT. SO BY TOMORROW MORNING, IF YOU AIN'T GOT IT, YOU NEED TO BE IN THE HOUSE. YOU NEED TO BE SAFE WITH THE HEATING DEVICES, KEEP THEM 36IN AWAY FROM ANYTHING THAT'S FLAMMABLE. BED SHEETS, CURTAINS. FROM WHAT THEY'RE SAYING, IT'S GOING TO BE A PRETTY BAD STORM. AND WE HAVEN'T HAD SNOW LIKE THIS IN A LONG TIME, SO WE WANT TO STAY OFF THE ROADS IF AT ALL POSSIBLE. ALLOW THE CITY TO COME THROUGH AND CLEAR THE ROADS. OF COURSE, IF YOU HAVE AN EMERGENCY, PLEASE CALL. OKAY. BUT WE REALLY WE REALLY NEED TO STAY OFF THE ROADS BECAUSE THIS IS REALLY PRETTY BAD THIS TIME. FROM WHAT THEY'RE PREDICTING. THAT'S ALL. I DIDN'T WANT TO FUSS. I JUST WANT TO HELP THE COMMUNITY. AND ENLIGHTENMENT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. OF COURSE. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. JEFF. NEXT WE GO

[10. Business or reports from the Mayor or other Members of City Council]

THERE WAS A GENTLEMAN WHO APPEARED BEFORE COUNCIL EARLIER THIS YEAR, MR. ROSSER FROM LOUDOUN COUNTY. I THINK HE WAS THE DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THERE, AND HE SHOWED US SOME NUMBERS, AND IT WAS A REALLY JAW DROPPING, EYE POPPING, ATTENTION GETTING OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT. BUT HE INTRODUCED ME TO A CONCEPT THAT'S VERY SIMPLE, BUT I'D NOT EVER THOUGHT OF BEFORE. AND THAT WAS MAKING A RATIO OF MUNICIPAL REVENUE RELATED TO A PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT VERSUS MUNICIPAL COST RELATED TO THAT DEVELOPMENT, AND THE RATIO FOR

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AND I'M SURE THEY'LL LET US IN EVEN THOUGH WE'RE FROM PETERSBURG. OKAY, SO IF THERE'S SOME SHEETS LEFT ON THAT TABLE AND I'LL BET THERE ARE, IF YOU'RE INTERESTED, I HOPE YOU'LL GRAB ONE. SO STAY TUNED. I HOPE I'LL SEE YOU AT MY WARD MEETING ON FEBRUARY 27TH. AND TOGETHER WE'RE GOING TO LEARN MORE AND MORE ABOUT DATA CENTERS. THERE WILL BE REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE CITY PRESENT. TRUST THAT THE PLANNING DIRECTOR WILL BE WITH US. I TRUST THAT THE DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WILL BE WITH US, AND BOTH WILL BE AVAILABLE AND CONTRIBUTING TO OUR CONVERSATION SO THAT WE CAN ALL LEARN A LOT ABOUT DATA CENTERS AND TALK ABOUT BENEFITS AND TALK ABOUT CODE, TALK ABOUT COSTS. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN JONES. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. WELL, PEOPLE OF PETERSBURG IN THIS ROOM TODAY IS WELL, THIS MONTH IS BLACK HISTORY MONTH, AND I'M ABOUT TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH EVERYBODY IN HERE THAT MAY NOT GO WELL, BUT EVERYBODY IN HERE OR THOSE JUST WATCHING. BUT I NEED TO ADDRESS THE BLACK COMMUNITY. AND BEFORE I ADDRESS THE BLACK COMMUNITY, I NEED TO ADDRESS THE WHITE COMMUNITY AND THE WHITE PEOPLE IN HERE TODAY. RAISE YOUR HAND. YEAH. THAT'S RIGHT. AREN'T YOU TIRED OF HEARING PEOPLE? WELL, LET ME LET ME REPHRASE THIS. I WANT TO PUT THIS OUT THERE RIGHT NOW. THERE'S NOBODY LIVING TODAY, NOBODY WHITE LIVING TODAY THAT OWNS A PHYSICAL SLAVE.

LET'S THROW THAT OUT THE WINDOW. NONE OF THESE WHITE PEOPLE HERE OWN A SLAVE. SOMEBODY IN THEIR LINEAGE MAY HAVE OWNED IT. THEY MAY HAVE EVEN WATCHED THEM BE HUNG AT THE CHURCH OR THE CLOCK TOWER DOWNTOWN PETERSBURG. BUT NOBODY IN HERE OWNED A SLAVE. AND I'M SAYING THAT BECAUSE THERE ARE MANY MENTAL SLAVES, AND THOSE MENTAL SLAVES ARE THE ONES WHO ARE AFRAID OF WHITE PEOPLE. THESE ARE BLACK PEOPLE. NOW, I'M NOT SAYING BLACK PEOPLE. NOW YOU GOT DIFFERENT.

YOU GOT A SLAVE ON THE PLANTATION, BUT THEN YOU GOT WHEN THEY SAID THEY HAD SLAVES.

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IT'S THIS AND THAT. DO Y'ALL KNOW BLACK HISTORY MONTH? THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF WHITE PEOPLE THAT HELPED SLAVES JUST AS MUCH AS BLACK PEOPLE. BUT JUST GUESS WHAT? THERE'S A LOT OF BLACK PEOPLE THAT HELPED CATCH YOU TO THAT SAME MENTALITY IS GOING ON TODAY. LOOK AT THIS ROOM TODAY. YOU HAVE A MAJORITY OF WHITE PEOPLE. EVERY COUNCIL MEETING IS MAJORITY OF WHITE PEOPLE AND A SPRINKLE OF BLACK. WE LOOK LIKE A RICE PUDDING WITH A HALF A BOX OF RAISINS. YEAH, THERE ARE MANY. THERE'S NO SLAVE OWNERS. DON'T MAKE ME LAUGH. THIS IS SERIOUS. I'M SAYING THIS BECAUSE JUST TODAY, NOW I SPENT I. I'M NOT SAYING THIS TO THROW SHADE ANYBODY, BUT AS A BLACK MAN, I DID ALL I COULD DO IN THIS CITY TO PROVIDE FOR ANY CROWD THAT I WE HERE NOT NOW.

COUNCIL SUPPORTED ME WHEN I SAY WHEN I SHOWED THEM A VISION CITY MANAGER DO THEY WHITE BUT THEY THEY THEY. YOU'RE WHITE AIN'T YOU. YEAH. BUT IT'S NO DIVISION NOW. THEY SAID WE BELIEVE IN YOUR VISION. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT THING. THAT'S WHY THIS LAND OPENED UP AND ALL THESE OTHER THINGS THAT I'VE DONE, THE COMMUNITY CENTER AND ALL THAT. BUT I'LL BE DAMNED IF MY OWN COMMUNITY CHOOSES TO GO TO CHESTERFIELD TO SUPPORT A BUSINESS THAT AIN'T BRINGING NO TAXES IN THIS CITY. THEY JUST TODAY HAD A MAN ON LIVE. I'M GOING TO SMACK HIM WHEN I SEE HIM TALK ABOUT ME. I DID NOTHING TO THIS BROTHER. BUT WE CHOOSE TO DESTROY EACH OTHER EVERY DAY.

ALL DAY. AND I'M NOT SAYING Y'ALL SHOULD GO AND FIND A WHITE PERSON AND BEAT THEM UP. I'M SAYING YOU NEED TO TREAT YOUR BROTHER WITH BETTER LOVE AND RESPECT AND CONSIDERATION. OUR KIDS ARE BEING FED DEATH, AND THE ONLY REASON WHY THEY BEING FED DEATH. BECAUSE THERE'S NOWHERE ELSE FOR THEM TO EAT FROM. THEY EAT FROM MY ACTIVITIES, THEY EAT FROM MY ACTIONS. THEY EAT FROM HOW WE FEED, HOW WE FEED OFF OF EACH OTHER. AND ALL I SEE IN THIS CITY AMONGST BLACK PEOPLE, NOT ALL BLACK PEOPLE. THE SLAVE MINDED ONES, IT'S DEATH. THERE'S GOING TO COME A TIME WHEN THE BLOOD THAT YOU SPREAD ON THESE STREETS. AND CHIEF CAN VOUCH FOR THIS. 20 MURDERS A YEAR IS TOO MUCH. YOUR BLOOD THAT YOU CAUSED THESE YOUNG MEN AND WOMEN AND SENT THEM TO THEIR FINAL RESTING PLACE, HAVING FAMILIES CRY AND MOURN FOR DAY AFTER DAY, YEAR AFTER YEAR IS GOING TO CATCH UP WITH YOU. AND I'M SAYING THIS BECAUSE THE CITY IS GROWING, THE CITY IS GROWING, AND WE GOT TO HAVE THESE HARD CONVERSATIONS. BLACK PEOPLE AND WHITE PEOPLE LISTEN. WE GOT TO HAVE THESE HARD CONVERSATIONS. WE GOT TO I HOPE I AIN'T MAKING Y'ALL FEEL UNEASY, BUT IT'S NECESSARY. IT'S VERY NECESSARY, MAN. AND Y'ALL SEE IT AND I SEE IT. I'M NOT ONE OF THOSE ONES WHO FEAR WHITE PEOPLE, AND I DON'T FEEL BLACK PEOPLE, BUT I DO FEAR FOR MY FUTURE AND MY KIDS FUTURE, ESPECIALLY IF THEY GOT TO DIE AT THE HANDS THAT LOOK LIKE MINE OR ANYBODY ELSE'S FOR THAT MATTER. THAT'S ALL I GOT, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN WESTBROOK.

TOUGH ACT TO FOLLOW RIGHT THERE. BUT GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY. I HAVE A FEW AS ALWAYS DO SEVEN POINTS THAT I WILL JUST TRY TO GET OUT REAL QUICK. THE FIRST IS I KNOW THAT THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF TALK ABOUT TREES OVER THE LAST SIX MONTHS IN THE CITY. WE'VE HAD A LONG PRESENTATION A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO, A MONTH AGO, RATHER ABOUT AN HOUR LONG. I STILL BRING UP THAT OVER IN THE SEVENTH WARD, ESPECIALLY IN THE WILCOX LAKE CONSERVANCY AREA. I REALLY WOULD LIKE THESE TREES TO BE LOOKED AT, BECAUSE JUST TWO DAYS AGO, A TREE WAS IT FELL ACROSS THE ROAD, COULD HAVE INJURED CARS. LUCKILY NONE WERE. BUT THERE'S A LOT OF DYING TREES IN THIS AREA THAT I THINK NEEDS TO GET LOOKED AT AS WELL AS WE ARE PLANTING THEM JUST FOR THE HEALTH OF THE WILCOX LAKES CONSERVANCY. IT'S REAL BAD. A LOT OF TREES ARE LEANING. OLD PINE TREES NEED TO BE CUT DOWN, AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN LOOK AT THAT AS WE CONSIDER HOW WE HANDLE TREES IN THE CITY.

SECOND, I WOULD LIKE TO REVISIT WHAT I MENTIONED LAST MONTH. I KEEP TRYING TO PUSH. I SAW IT WHEN I GO TO A LOT OF OTHER STATES. THERE'S A PLASTIC BAG BAN THAT IS GOING ON IN MOST CITIES, AND I DID BRING IT UP TO THE CITY MANAGER, AND I THINK THAT HE DID HAVE AN UPDATE, BUT

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MISS KIYANI DIDN'T GET HER LAST NAME. THAT HAS ALREADY QUALIFIED FOR NATIONALS AS AN ALTERNATE IN IOWA THIS JUNE, AND SHE STILL HAS OPPORTUNITIES TO GET MORE OF HER TEAM MEMBERS. SO PLEASE SUPPORT THEM AND AS WELL. SHAMELESS PLUG, BUT I AM THE COACH OF THE VSU SPEECH AND DEBATE TEAM, AND THIS PAST WEEKEND WE WENT DOWN TO ATLANTA TO PARTICIPATE IN THE SOCIAL JUSTICE DEBATES. AND THE RESOLUTION WAS TO ACHIEVE HOUSING JUSTICE. THE UNITED STATES SHOULD FOCUS ON THE ROOT CAUSES OF HOMELESSNESS RATHER THAN IMMEDIATELY PROVIDING IMMEDIATE PERMANENT HOUSING AND SUPPORTIVE SERVICES. AND IF YOU DON'T GET ALL THAT BECAUSE OF MY TIME, I'LL TELL YOU ABOUT IT. BUT I WAS AMAZED AT BOTH THE AFFIRMATIVE ONE AND MY TEAM ACTUALLY WON THE CHAMPIONSHIP OF THE NOVICE. BUT WHAT THAT IS BASICALLY SAYING IN A SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME IS EVERYBODY AGREED, JUDGES, THAT WE NEED TO BE FOCUSED ON THE ROOT CAUSES OTHER THAN PROVIDING JUST HOUSES TO PEOPLE AND SHELTERS. WE NEED TO REALLY LOOK AT THE ROOT CAUSES OF HOMELESSNESS INSTEAD OF, AGAIN, JUST PROVIDING SERVICES TO PEOPLE. SO AGAIN, I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT. SIX IS. DOO DOO DOO DOO DOO DOO. SHAMELESS PLUG AGAIN. BUT I DID GO TO PLEASANTS LANE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL LAST MONTH OR LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO. THEY DO A PEP RALLY AT THE END OF EACH MONTH WHERE THEY HONOR STUDENTS. AND I'M HAPPY TO SAY THAT MY DAUGHTER, ALISA WESTBROOK, WAS THE STUDENT OF THE MONTH FOR DECEMBER. SO SHOUT OUT TO PLEASANTS LANE AND ALL THEY DO. AND SHOUT OUT TO MY DAUGHTER FOR MAKING STUDENT OF THE MONTH. AND THEN FINALLY I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY, PLEASE BE SAFE OUT THERE IN THE SNOW. GOVERN YOURSELVES OVER THE NEXT FEW DAYS, BUT ENJOY IT. I LIKE TO SEE THE SNOW, SO HOPEFULLY YOU DO TOO.

WE CAN BURN OFF SOME OF THEM GERMS IN THE AIR, AND THEN WE'LL BE BACK TO NORMAL BY MONDAY, BECAUSE I'M SURE PUBLIC WORKS WILL DO A GREAT JOB AT CLEARING THE STREETS. THANK YOU IN ADVANCE. PUBLIC WORKS. OKAY, COUNCILMAN MYERS, THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE.

I'D LIKE TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO THANK THE WORKS DEPARTMENT AND PARTICULARLY STEVE STINSON, YOU KNOW, FOR ASSISTING US WITH THIS WATER MAIN BREAK THAT WE JUST HAD ON WEST WASHINGTON STREET. THEY DID A GREAT JOB IN GETTING ALL OF THAT TIED UP. AND ALSO, RICHARD HARRIS, GILLFIELD BAPTIST CHURCH, LONG, LONG, LONG TIME OF DILAPIDATED SIDEWALKS, CRACKED SIDEWALKS, ALL OF THOSE THINGS. AND THEY WERE ABLE TO REPAIR, FIX AND REPAIR ALL WELL, I'M SORRY, NOT FIXING, REPAIR, REMOVE AND REBUILD THOSE SIDEWALKS. THEY'RE GOING AROUND THE CHURCH. SO I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO RICHARD HARRIS AND STEVE STINSON AND THE WORKS DEPARTMENT FOR ALL THAT THEY DO, NOT JUST THOSE PARTICULAR ITEMS, BUT EVERYTHING THAT THEY DO

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WE TOOK A TRIP DOWN TO VIRGINIA BEACH ON FRIDAY AND LISTEN TO SOME GOOD CONVERSATIONS ABOUT BROADBAND. AND SO WE'RE HOPING THAT WE WILL GET SOME FORM OF PROPOSAL COMING IN TO HELP US TO MEET THE NEEDS OF OUR COMMUNITY. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY. VICE MAYOR HILL, GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO GIVE MY CONDOLENCES TO OUR CLERK. SHE LOST HER SISTER. IT WAS ONLY TWO OF THEM, TINA HILL, FOR FOUR YEARS. SO SHE'LL BE GOING HOME THIS WEEKEND TO GO FUNERALIZE HER SISTER. SO PLEASE KEEP HER IN YOUR PRAYERS AS SHE TRAVEL HOME. ALSO, SOMETHING THAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT AND I THINK IT TOOK A BUZZ IN THE WRONG DIRECTION, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO BRING IT BACK FOR OUR FIRST MEETING WHEN WE HAVE OUR FIRST MEETING ON TUESDAYS, THE FIRST TUESDAY OF THE MONTH, I THINK THAT WE NEED TO HAVE WHAT WE WAS GOING TO DO A COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PIECE. AND WHAT THIS WAS GOING TO DO WAS DURING OUR MEETING, WHEN WE HAVE THIS PART RIGHT HERE OR, OR THE PART WHEN INDIVIDUALS WILL COME UP AND TALK THAT YOU WOULD SIGN UP TO TALK TO YOUR COUNCIL PERSON, AND THEN THEY CAN POINT YOU IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION TO GET THINGS DONE. SO IT WASN'T TRYING TO SILENCE THE VOICE OF THE COMMUNITY OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT IT WAS A BETTER WAY THAT WE COULD SERVE YOU BECAUSE JUST LIKE THE GENTLEMAN CAME UP AND HE ASKED QUESTIONS AND WHAT HAVE YOU THAT WE COULD GET GET THE QUESTIONS AND THINGS ANSWERED RIGHT THEN AND THERE. SO SOMETHING THAT IT MAY NOT COME UP THIS YEAR, BUT MAYBE THE NEXT YEAR THAT WE CAN PUT A COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PIECE ON OUR FIRST WORK SESSION MEETING. THAT WAY, INSTEAD OF US DOING THIS OR AND WHAT HAVE YOU, WE CAN COME DOWN AND ENGAGE WITH THE COMMUNITY LIKE TEN MINUTES. YOU KNOW, YOU SIGN UP WITH WHATEVER YOUR COUNCIL PERSON IS AND THEN YOU GIVE THEM YOUR, YOUR SITUATION OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. JUST SOMETHING I THINK WE NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT, BECAUSE EVEN AT WARD MEETINGS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, IF YOU HAVE TO WAIT FOR A WARD MEETING TO ACTUALLY SPEAK TO YOUR COUNCIL MEMBER, THEN THAT'S, THAT'S THAT'S A LONG TIME. AND NO, WE'LL BE DOING A POTHOLE. MR. HARTMAN WANTS TO WEATHER TURN, YOU KNOW, BACK WARM. SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE SOME POTHOLES DUE TO THE WEATHER AND WHAT HAVE YOU. I KNOW IT'S TO CLOSE NOW TO COLD NOW. ALSO, I WANT TO THIS IS MY THIRD OR FOURTH TIME SAYING THIS THAT WE NEED TO PICK UP THESE SIGNS IN THE RIGHT OF WAY. IF WE COME OFF OF EXIT 52, NOT NOT 52, BUT WHAT IS IT, 54 UP TO CRATER ROAD AND GOING TO GRAHAM ROAD. THERE ARE SIGNS EVERYWHERE, THE SAME SIGNS THAT I SAID THREE WEEKS AGO, FOUR WEEKS AGO ARE STILL THERE.

THEN WHEN WE WAS CAMPAIGNING, Y'ALL WAS PICKING UP SIGNS LIKE CRAZY. BUT NOW WE GOT SIGNS ALL UP AND DOWN CRATER ROAD. I WANT THOSE SIGNS PICKED UP. THEN THE NEIGHBORHOODS PICK UP THOSE SIGNS THEY'RE ON THEIR OWN OR PUBLIC PROPERTY. SO PLEASE PICK THOSE SIGNS UP. THANK YOU. ALSO, I WANT TO THANK THE CITIZENS WHO STAY ENGAGED AT ALL TIMES. GOOD TO SEE YOU, MR. FLEMING. WE VALUE ALL OF YOU, ALL ENGAGEMENT IN OUR CITY, ALTHOUGH WE MAY NOT ALWAYS AGREE, BUT BUT BELIEVE ME, WE DO TAKE IT TO HEART. YOU KNOW, WHETHER GOOD OR BAD. WANT TO WANT TO THANK YOU ALL. I WANT TO THANK THE EMPLOYEES AS WELL, WHO WORK DAY IN AND DAY OUT, ALL THE DIRECTORS THINGS OF THAT NATURE, AND ALSO HEARD YOU SAY SOMETHING, COUNCILMAN WESTBROOK, THIS IS NOT A DIG. BUT THE RETREAT WAS PROPERLY ADVERTISED. I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE DIDN'T LIKE WHERE IT WAS, BUT IT WAS PROPERLY ADVERTISED. IF IT WASN'T PROPERLY ADVERTISED, THEN MAYBE YOU MAY NOT HAVE WANTED TO COME, BUT IT WAS PROPERLY ADVERTISED. I GUESS IN YOUR HASTE OF TALKING, YOU SAID THAT YOU DIDN'T KNOW IF IT WAS PROPERLY ADVERTISED OR NOT, BUT IT WAS THE JOB. THE JOBS WASN'T PROPERLY. OKAY, OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. SO THE JOB. SO, CORDISH, WE'RE RIGHT THERE IN THE CORNER. WE HAD WE SPOKE ABOUT THAT. SO I THOUGHT YOU SAID THAT WE HAD TO PLAY THE TAPE BACK, BUT IT SOUNDED LIKE YOU SAID THAT THE RETREAT WASN'T PROPERLY ADVERTISED. OKAY. THANK YOU. I'M GLAD YOU CLEARED THAT UP. BECAUSE ME AND MISS HILL, WE LOOKED AT EACH OTHER LIKE WHAT? ANYWAYS, THANK YOU EVERYBODY FOR COMING OUT. YOU ALL BE SAFE. MAY GOD BLESS YOU AND MAY GOD BLESS THE CITY OF PETERSBURG. ALRIGHT. ALL RIGHT. THANK EVERYBODY FOR COMING OUT. GET READY FOR THE SNOW THAT'S COMING. I JUST WANT TO THANK DOCTOR ERIC EDWARDS AND FLOW CORPORATION, WHICH HAD ME SPEAK TODAY AT THEIR. THEIR ANNUAL EVENT HOSTED AT HOTEL PETERSBURG, WAS A FABULOUS EVENT CHARTING THE PATH OF WHERE PHARMACEUTICAL MANUFACTURING IS GOING NEXT. A LOT OF EXCITING

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[12. Finance and Budget Report]

MR. GARY COZIER WELCOME BACK. ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING AGAIN. GOOD EVENING. OKAY. SO HERE WE ARE WITH THE FEBRUARY FINANCE MONTHLY UPDATE. WHY IS THAT SCREEN CUT OFF LIKE THAT? I DON'T LIKE THAT. BUT OKAY SO TONIGHT BUDGET TO ACTUALS EARNED INTEREST UPDATE. WE HAVE SOME PROJECT UPDATES AS WELL AS OUR BUDGET TIMELINE. SO GOING THROUGH OUR BUDGET TO ACTUALS STILL TRACKING WHERE WE SHOULD BE. AS YOU SEE HERE, 56% OF THE YEAR SPENT AND 58% OF THE YEAR IS GONE. SO GOOD THERE. SAME THING ON OUR OTHER FUNDS. WE'RE ALL TRACKING PRETTY MUCH WHERE WE SHOULD BE OR UNDER. HERE'S OUR EARNED INTEREST UPDATE FOR OUR ACCOUNT. JANUARY INTEREST WAS 164,000 AND SOME DOLLARS. ATLANTIC UNION BANK ACCOUNT JANUARY INTEREST WAS $31,000. SO TOTAL EARNED INTEREST YEAR TO DATE $1.4 MILLION. HERE WE HAVE SOME PROJECT UPDATES AND I APOLOGIZE. THIS IS NOT IN YOUR PACKET. SO WE HAVE OUR BANKING SERVICES RFP. SO THAT IS IN PROGRESS RIGHT NOW. THAT IS THROUGH THE TREASURER'S OFFICE AS WELL AS THE RFP COMMITTEE FOR THAT RFP. SO THERE ARE SOME NOTES THERE. AND WE'LL PRESENT AN UPDATE AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE RFP TALKING ABOUT OUR ERP, WHICH IS OUR ENTERPRISE RESOURCE PLANNING SYSTEM. THAT PROJECT IS ALSO IN PROGRESS, AND WE WILL PROVIDE UPDATES AS WE MOVE THROUGH THAT. SO ALL THE CITY DEPARTMENTS WILL BE CONSIDERED WHILE WE'RE PICKING THAT ERP. AND THAT'S STILL IN ITS INFANT STAGES. NEXT PROJECT REAL PROPERTY DELINQUENT TAXPAYER TARGETED COLLECTION PROJECT THAT IS FROM OUR CUSTOMER CARE AND COLLECTIONS DIVISION. SO FAR, 500 PROPERTIES HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED THAT HAVE NOT PAID ANY TAXES SINCE 2020 THROUGH THROUGH 2024. THEY'VE BEEN SEPARATED INTO PRIORITY COLLECTION GROUPS, AND THAT PROCESS IS BEING MANAGED BY THE OFFICE OF THE CITY ATTORNEY AND FINANCE. THE NEXT AUDIT. RIGHT. OUR ANNUAL COMPREHENSIVE FINANCIAL REPORT THAT IS ALREADY IN PROGRESS. WE ARE NOT TRYING TO BRING IT DOWN TO THE WIRE. SO THAT IS SCHEDULED TO BE COMPLETED. 1031 2025 WELL BEFORE THE DEADLINE. AND LASTLY, OUR FY

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WE'LL HAVE COMMUNITY BUDGET MEETINGS IN APRIL AS WELL. ALL GOES WELL. THE 15TH, WE'LL HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE PROPOSED BUDGET IN MAY. COUNCIL CAN APPROVE, PROPOSE, EXCUSE ME, ANY AMENDMENTS TO THE BUDGET. AND THEN WE ARE PLANNING FOR ADOPTION BY THE 20TH OF MAY. AND I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION, MR. KOCHER. ANY QUESTIONS FROM MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, COUNCILMAN JONES? YEAH, WHAT I MISS, I'M JUST MESSING WITH YOU. OH. GOOD MAN. THANK YOU. OKAY. ALRIGHTY. NEXT, WE MOVE ON TO ITEM 13, UNFINISHED

[14. New Business]

JONES. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER. MYERS. COUNCIL MEMBER. WESTBROOK. BEFORE I SAY WHAT I WOULD SAY, JUST WISH THE GOOD LUCK TO EVERYBODY. THAT'S THAT'S GOING ON TO THAT BOARD. AS FORMER PRESIDENT BEFORE I CAME ON THE COUNCIL I DO WISH THEM WELL WITH SERVING SOCIAL SERVICES. BUT MY VOTE IS I. MISS COUNCIL MEMBER SMITH LEE, VICE MAYOR HILL MAYOR PAM I MOTION NEXT IS ITEM B APPOINTMENTS TO THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY. MR. MAYOR I HAVE A SLATE. I KANIALA ABDULLAH, WINSTON SANDERS, JOEL ERB, KOFI A.D. KOFI ANNAN, SAM RUE AND BENJAMIN JARVELA AT SEVEN APPOINTMENTS. YES. VICE MAYOR HILL, I SECOND THAT SLATE MOTION AND A SECOND COUNCILMAN COVER. I MAKE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION THAT WE TABLE THIS ALL RIGHT AS A SUBSTITUTE MOTION TO TABLE IT. ALL RIGHT. I'M GOING TO I'M GOING TO SECOND THAT TABLE. IT'S BEEN MOVED IMPROPERLY. SECOND, DID WE TABLE THIS? MADAM CLERK, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? COUNCIL MEMBER. CUTHBERT. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER. JONES. NO. COUNCIL MEMBER. MEYERS. NO.

COUNCIL MEMBER. WESTBROOK. NO. COUNCIL MEMBER. I'M SORRY. VICE MAYOR. HILL. NO. MAYOR. PERRY I.

THE PREVIOUS MOTION COMES TO THE TABLE. YOU GOT IT? YEAH. THE PREVIOUS MOTION IS ON THE TABLE.

COUNCIL MEMBER. CUTHBERT. NO. COUNCIL MEMBER. JONES I, COUNCIL MEMBER. MEYERS I COUNCIL MEMBER.

WESTBROOK I VICE MAYOR. HILL I MAYOR PERRY. NO MOTION CARRIES. NEXT ITEM IS ITEM C RESOLUTION TO EXTEND THE PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX DUE DATE. MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, MAYOR. MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. WE HAVE A REQUEST THIS EVENING TO EXTEND THE DUE DATE TO MARCH 7TH, 2025. WITH AS A RESULT OF THE DELAYS THAT WE HAD WITH THE BILLING, WE DON'T WANT TO ADVERSELY IMPACT OUR RESIDENTS. SO WE'RE REQUESTING AN EXTENSION OF A WEEK. MR. MAYOR, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE

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OBVIOUSLY SOMEBODY SHOULD BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE. BUT LET'S NOT ALWAYS FOCUS ON WHO DID IT AND FIX THE PROBLEM. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT MISS COMMISSIONER OF REVENUE BRITTANY FLOWERS. GOOD EVENING, BRITTANY FLOWERS, COMMISSIONER OF THE REVENUE RESIDING AT 3280 DENISE ROAD.

THIS HAS HAPPENED WAY TOO MANY TIMES. I HAVE FINISHED THOSE ASSESSMENTS ON FRIDAY, JANUARY 17TH IS BAFFLING TO ME. WHY WE HERE AGAIN? WE KNOW WHO DID IT. WE KNOW WHAT HAPPENED IN THIS FALSE INFORMATION BEING TOLD TO THE PUBLIC, AND I DON'T APPRECIATE IT. SO WE HAVE TO BE TRANSPARENT. WE HAVE TO SHOW ACCOUNTABILITY AND DO WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. BECAUSE THE BILL STILL WENT OUT WRONG WITH THE QUALITY CONTROL. SO I NEED TO KNOW HOW WE'RE GOING TO FIX IT BECAUSE WE CAN'T GO BACK HERE AGAIN. I'VE BEEN WITH THE CITY 12 YEARS AND TRYING TO BE POLITICALLY CORRECT. WHEN I WAS IN THE TREASURER'S OFFICE, THIS DIDN'T HAPPEN. IT DIDN'T. WHEN YOU GUYS VOTED TO HAVE TWO YEARS SUPPLEMENTS, NOT SUPPLEMENTS. I'M SORRY. BREAK IT UP. FROM ONE YEAR BILLING TO HALF, IT WAS FINE. IT JUST WAS. AND I'M SPEAKING FROM EXPERIENCE. IT WAS FINE. SO WHAT HAPPENED? WE WORKED WITH LESS PEOPLE, LESS MONEY, MORE EFFICIENCY. MY EXPERIENCE, I'VE BEEN THE COMMISSIONER OF REVENUE SINCE JANUARY OF 2018. ASSESSMENTS DONE. IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE PROPER PEOPLE IN PLACE WITH THE PROPER EDUCATION, WHO'S WILLING TO LISTEN FROM PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN THERE AND KNOW WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU WILL BE FINE.

WE CANNOT KEEP DOING THIS. ASSESSMENTS WERE DONE ON THE 17TH OF JANUARY. MONDAY WAS A HOLIDAY, I GET IT, BUT YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE RIGHT PEOPLE IN THE RIGHT PLACE WHO IS WILLING TO LISTEN TO PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN HERE FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME. I HAVE EMAILS AFTER EMAILS, AFTER EMAILS. HEY, WHERE IS THE PERSONAL PROPERTY BILL? WHAT ARE WE DOING? AND THEY STILL WENT OUT. INCORRECT. MULTIPLE PEOPLE GETTING A BILL IN THE SAME ENVELOPE AT THE SAME ADDRESS.

PERSONAL PROPERTY FOLLOWS THE SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER THAT IS NOT PUBLIC RECORD. THIS WAS TOLD TO THEM WHEN IT HAPPENED WITH REAL ESTATE. REAL ESTATE FOLLOWS THE PROPERTY, NOT THE PERSON.

PERSONAL PROPERTY FOLLOWS THE SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER. SO TO HEAR WHAT HAS BEEN GOING ON AND I KEEP HEARING QUALITY CONTROL, THERE'S NO QUALITY CONTROL. SOMETHING HAS TO BE DONE AND SOMEBODY HAS TO TAKE ACCOUNTABILITY BECAUSE THE CITIZENS DO NOT DESERVE IT. THEY DON'T. I'M PASSIONATE ABOUT MY JOB AND WHAT I DO, BUT Y'ALL ARE NOT. AT 144 NORTH SYCAMORE STREET ANSWERING THE PHONES. YOU'RE NOT. THAT'S US. MY OFFICE ACROSS THE HALL. ACCOUNTABILITY AND TRANSPARENCY AND KNOWLEDGE WITH CARE ABOUT WHAT YOU DO. IT WILL GO A LONG WAY. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THERE WAS THE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE RESOLUTION IS NOW CLOSED. NEXT. MISS HILL, COULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL COUNCIL MEMBER CUTHBERT? HERE? I OF COURSE, WE'VE GOT TO EXTEND THE DEADLINE. BUT I CERTAINLY LIKE MISS FLOWERS. I CERTAINLY HOPE THAT THIS DOESN'T KEEP REOCCURRING. AND YET HISTORY TELLS ME THAT IT'S GOING TO UNTIL THERE IS ACCOUNTABILITY. AND THAT'S WHY I ASKED WHO WAS RESPONSIBLE. IT'S NOT THAT I WANT TO BE MEAN, BUT THE CITY'S REPUTATION IS AT STAKE AND WE'RE SPENDING REPUTATION CAPITAL. YOU MAY SAY EVERY TIME WE GOOF UP IN THE PUBLIC SEES IT, IT'S GOT TO STOP. BUT IN ANY EVENT, I, COUNCIL MEMBER JONES. AND IF I MAY, MR. MAYOR. MR. CITY MANAGER, I'VE TOLD YOU BEFORE,

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COUNCIL MEMBER. MYERS, COUNCIL MEMBER. WESTBROOK COUNCIL. VICE MAYOR HILL I MAYOR PERRY I

[15. City Manager's Report and Special Reports]

IT'S NOW FEBRUARY AND WE HAVEN'T SEEN THAT COMPREHENSIVE INVESTMENT PLAN. WHAT IS THE TIMETABLE FOR PRESENTING THAT TO US, PLEASE? SO THEY'RE FINISHING UP THAT NOW. WE'VE WENT AND INCORPORATED SOME COMMENTS AND WENT DISCUSSIONS WITH CORDISH ABOUT CASINO REVENUE AND GETTING THAT RIGHT. THAT NUMBER. RIGHT. SO THEY'RE FINISHING THAT UP NOW. AND I WOULD EXPECT US TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT FOR Y'ALL'S DISCUSSION IN MARCH. IN MARCH, AT OUR WORK SESSION OR AT OUR BUSINESS MEETING. I'LL HAVE TO SEE IF IT'LL BE DONE IN TWO WEEKS. BUT, YOU KNOW, LOOK, I'M I'M THINKING MORE OF THE BUSINESS MEETING, BUT WE CAN TARGET IT FOR THE WORK SESSION.

I'LL SEE WHERE THEY ARE, BECAUSE I KNOW THEY WERE CLOSE TO ME AND FINISHED WHEN I TALKED TO THEM.

WELL, I UNDERSTAND WE'VE WE DO HAVE A CHANGING LANDSCAPE HERE WITH THE CASINO, AND I CAN APPRECIATE THAT. AT THE SAME TIME THIS IS IMPORTANT. SO IF YOU WOULD PUSH THAT FORWARD, I KNOW WE'D ALL APPRECIATE IT. THE OTHER THING AND IN THE SAME MINUTES, SEPTEMBER 17TH PAGE, WE TALKED ABOUT A $30 MILLION OF LOAN TO, I GUESS, THE CITY AND A GRANT COVERING 30% OF THE COST OF A NEW ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. WE SEE IN WASHINGTON THAT YOU CAN'T COUNT ON ANYTHING UNTIL THE UNTIL YOU MIGHT SAY THE FISH IS IN THE BOAT, AND THEN YOU CAN'T COUNT ON IT. YEAH. IT MIGHT. WHO KNOWS IF IT MIGHT BE RETRACTED, AS HAPPENED TO NEW YORK CITY. SO IS THERE ANY FORWARD MOVEMENT ON

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[Additional Item]

YEAH. IT'S GONNA BE QUICK. THE MAYOR WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CONCLUDE THE CLOSED SESSION.

CALL AND CERTIFY IN ACCORDANCE WITH 2.2 3712 THE CODE OF VIRGINIA. THOSE MATTERS FOR WHICH THE CLOSED SESSION WAS CALLED WERE DISCUSSED. ANY MEMBER BELIEVING THERE WAS A DEPARTURE FROM THE FOREGOING. SO STATE FOR THE RECORD, IDENTIFYING THE SUBSTANCE OF THE DEPARTURE WHICH HE BELIEVES IS OCCURRED. THIS REQUIRES A ROLL CALL VOTE. ALL RIGHT, VICE MAYOR HILL SO MOVED. COUNCILMAN WESTBROOK. SECOND, COULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL COUNCILMAN I COUNCILMAN JONES. COUNCILMAN MYERS, COUNCIL MEMBER. VICE MAYOR HILL. AYE. MAYOR. HI. ALL RIGHT. THIS

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