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          YOU READY? GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. THANK EVERYBODY FOR COMING OUT TONIGHT FOR OUR 
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SPECIAL JOINT MEETING BETWEEN PETERSBURG CITY COUNCIL AND PETERSBURG PLANNING COMMISSION. 
          AT THIS TIME, WE'RE GOING TO GO FOR A ROLL CALL FIRST WITH CITY COUNCIL. MISS HILL, COULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? COUNCIL MEMBER CUTHBERT. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER. JONES. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER. MEYER. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER. WESTBROOK. COUNCIL MEMBER. SMITH. LEE. PRESENT. 
          VICE MAYOR. HILL. HERE. MAYOR. PERRY. HERE. ALL RIGHT. NEXT FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION, MR. FORD. THANK YOU. WE'RE HERE. OH, OKAY. OKAY. ROLL CALL. OKAY. PERFECT. OKAY. DEQUAN. REINHART. 
          CHRISTIAN. KATZENBACH. TONY MCDANIEL. PRESIDENT. THOMAS HARRISON. ALVIN. CANNON. HERE. 
          JAMES. NORMAN. DOCTOR. DIANE. HARLEY. BENTON. BLAND AND CHAIRMAN MARSHALL FORD. YOU HAVE A QUORUM, SIR. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. NEXT, VICE MAYOR HILL WILL LEAD US IN OUR OPENING PRAYER. LET US PRAY. ETERNAL GOD, OUR FATHER, ONCE AGAIN, WE COME BEFORE YOU, LORD, GIVING YOUR NAME, HONOR, PRAISE, AND GLORY. WE THANK YOU FOR THIS DAY. WE THANK YOU FOR THE BLESSINGS OF TODAY. NOW, LORD, AS WE PARTAKE IN YOUR BUSINESS. HEAVENLY FATHER, WE ASK THAT YOU WOULD GET THE GLORY OUT OF THIS HEAVENLY FATHER, THAT GREAT MINDS WOULD COME TOGETHER TO DO WHAT'S PLEASING IN THY SIGHT AND PLEASING FOR THE CITIZENS IN THE SURROUNDING COUNTIES AND CITIES OF PETERSBURG. HEAVENLY FATHER, WE ASK THAT YOU BE WITH EACH AND EVERY LAST ONE OF US. HEAVENLY FATHER, GIVE US WISDOM ON HIGH. AND IF YOU DO THIS, HEAVENLY FATHER, WE BE EVER CAREFUL TO GIVE YOUR NAME, HONOR, PRAISE, AND GLORY. IT'S IN JESUS NAME. WE PRAY AND WE THANK YOU. AMEN. 
          AMEN. NEXT, PLEASE STAND AND JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. NEXT IS ITEM FOR DETERMINATION OF PRESENCE OF A QUORUM. WE DO HAVE A QUORUM. WE'LL START OFF WITH ITEM FIVE. PUBLIC HEARINGS. 
          [5.a. Public Hearing of an Ordinance Approving a Request by Woda Cooper Development Inc., on  Behalf of 3030 Pinetree, LLC and Chanmeet Singh, LLC, for a Special Use Permit for Multiple-Family Dwellings as Authorized and Controlled by the R-5 Multiple Dwelling District Standards at  3030, 3060, and 3090 Pinetree Drive, Parcel IDs 059010806, 059010807, 059010808 in the B-2  General Commercial District]
ITEM A PUBLIC HEARING FOR AN ORDINANCE APPROVING A REQUEST BY WODA-COOPER DEVELOPMENT INCORPORATED ON BEHALF OF 3030 PINE TREE, LLC AND SING, LLC FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR MULTIPLE FAMILY DWELLINGS AS AUTHORIZED AND CONTROLLED BY THE R5 MULTIPLE DWELLING DISTRICT STANDARD AT 30, 30, 30, 60 AND 3090 PINE TREE DRIVE. PARCEL. ID 059010806059010807059010808, AND THE B2 GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU MAYOR. GOOD EVENING. COUNCIL. 
          PLANNING COMMISSION. I WILL GIVE YOU A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THE CASE BEFORE THE PUBLIC HEARING. IF I CAN GET MY IF THE. THANK YOU. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT A THREE ACRE PROPERTY ON THE WESTERN SIDE OF PINE TREE DRIVE, WHICH IS JUST OFF OF COUNTY DRIVE. IT'S MADE UP OF THREE PARCELS 30, 30, 60 AND 90 PINE TREE DRIVE. AND THE PROPERTY IS ZONED B2 GENERAL COMMERCIAL. AS YOU CAN SEE, THE PROPERTY IS DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM LIBERTY POINT PHASE ONE APARTMENTS, JUST NORTH OF THE PINE TREE APARTMENTS. SO THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO CONSTRUCT A THREE STORY APARTMENT BUILDING ON THE PROPERTY, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE 50 APARTMENT UNITS TO BE OFFERED AS AFFORDABLE UNITS, SIMILAR TO THE DEVELOPER'S OTHER PROJECTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND STATE. 
          AS MENTIONED, THE PREVAILING USE IN THE AREA IS MULTI-FAMILY HOUSING. INCLUDING LIBERTY POINT PHASE ONE, WHICH IS A PROJECT THAT WAS DEVELOPED AND IS MANAGED BY THE APPLICANT. SO THE ZONING ORDINANCE REQUIRES A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT IN THE B-2 DISTRICT. AND IF THE PERMIT IS APPROVED, THE DEVELOPMENT HAS TO CONFORM WITH THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS OF OUR R5 DISTRICT, WHICH IS OUR MULTIPLE DWELLING DISTRICT. AS WELL AS ANY CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL THAT MAY BE PLACED ON THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT. PER THE ZONING ORDINANCE, A SPECIAL USE PERMIT CAN BE GRANTED. IF PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY, MORAL AND GENERAL WELFARE WILL NOT BE ADVERSELY AFFECTED BY A PROPOSED USE. AND THE ORDINANCE ALLOWS US TO PLACE CONDITIONS ON THE APPROVAL. TO BE PROVIDED TO PROTECT SURROUNDING PROPERTIES, 
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PERSONS AND NEIGHBORHOOD VALUES. SO THIS IS JUST A LOOK AT THE EXISTING CONDITIONS ON THE PROPERTY. IT'S LARGELY WOODED. AND YOU CAN SEE IN THE TOP IMAGE THE FIRST PHASE OF LIBERTY POINT ON THE MY LEFT HAND SIDE OF THE SCREEN. AND THEN IN THE BOTTOM IMAGE YOU CAN SEE THE PINE TREE APARTMENTS TO THE SOUTH. SO HERE YOU CAN SEE A CONCEPT PLAN THAT WAS PROVIDED ALONG WITH THE APPLICATION THAT SHOWS THE PROPOSED LAYOUT OF THE SITE. THEY'RE SHOWING ABOUT 2.3 ACRES DEVELOPED WITH THAT REMAINING PORTION REMAINING WOODED. THE DEVELOPED PORTION OF THE SITE INCLUDES THE APARTMENT BUILDING AS WELL AS THE PARKING AREA. ALONG WITH SOME AMENITIES. 
          INCLUDING A PLAYGROUND AND PICNIC AREA AND LANDSCAPING FEATURES THROUGHOUT THE SITE. SO THE APPLICATION ALSO INCLUDED AN ARCHITECTURAL THEME FOR THE PROJECT, AS WELL AS RENDERED ELEVATIONS OF THE BUILDING. WITH TWO TONES OF BRICK, A COMBINATION OF FIBER CEMENT LAP SIDING WITH BOARD AND BATTEN ACCENTS. LOOKING AT THE ADJOINING ZONING AND USES, ALL LANDS THAT ARE SURROUNDING THE PROPERTY ARE ZONED B2 GENERAL COMMERCIAL, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE PINE TREE APARTMENT PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH, WHICH IS ZONED R4, WHICH IS ANOTHER MULTI-FAMILY DISTRICT. AGAIN, THE ADJOINING AND NEIGHBORING LAND USES ARE LARGELY EXISTING APARTMENTS. TO THE EAST AND SOUTH, WITH UNDEVELOPED LAND TO THE WEST. SO LOOKING AT HOW THE REQUEST FITS WITHIN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THIS PROPERTY IS DESIGNATED AS COMMUNITY MIXED USE ON OUR FUTURE LAND USE MAP. PRINCIPAL LAND USES AND THE COMMUNITY MIXED USE AREAS INCLUDE ADAPTIVE REUSE, MULTI-FAMILY DWELLINGS, OFFICES, PERSONAL SERVICES, AND SMALL SCALE OFFICE AND RETAIL USES. DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THESE AREAS. IT'S ENCOURAGED TO BE A COMPACT DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF WITH PEDESTRIAN RESIDENT AMENITIES ENCOURAGED. THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ALSO SPEAKS TO A GOAL OF CREATING A DIVERSE AND ATTAINABLE HOUSING STOCK WITHIN THE CITY, AND IT ENCOURAGES US TO IDENTIFY AREAS FOR INFILL DEVELOPMENT THAT'S COMPATIBLE WITH ITS SURROUNDINGS. SO STAFF ARE PROPOSING SOME CONDITIONS FOR THE USE. LARGELY WITH THE GOAL OF JUST ENSURING A QUALITY DEVELOPMENT, AS WELL AS JUST MAKING SURE IT ALIGNS WITH THOSE GOALS OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. SO THE FIRST CONDITION WOULD BE ONE THAT JUST SAYS IT HAS TO BE DEVELOPED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE SITE PLAN AND THE RENDERED ELEVATIONS THAT WERE PROVIDED IN THE APPLICATION. THE SECOND HAS TO DO WITH IMPROVEMENTS TO THE FRONTAGE OF THE PROPERTY ALONG PINE TREE, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE STREET TREE PLANTING, STREET FURNITURE, SIDEWALK ALONG THE FRONTAGE AND PEDESTRIAN SCALE LIGHTING. THE DEVELOPMENT SHALL INCLUDE ON CALL MANAGEMENT AND MAINTENANCE STAFF, AS WELL AS SECURITY SURVEILLANCE. A REQUIREMENT THAT THE DEVELOPMENT WILL OBTAIN ENERGY STAR CERTIFICATION THROUGH THE US EPA. AND CONSTRUCTION MATERIALS WOULD BE SUBMITTED FOR APPROVAL DURING THE BUILDING PERMIT PHASE TO JUST ENSURE THAT THE CONSTRUCTION ALIGNS WITH THE APPLICATION. THE DEVELOPMENT SHALL INCLUDE UNIVERSAL DESIGN ELEMENTS AS WELL AS THREE ADA ACCESSIBLE UNITS. EXISTING VEGETATION AND GREEN SPACE ON THE REMAINING UNDEVELOPED PORTION OF THE PROPERTY WILL BE MAINTAINED UNLESS AND UNTIL SUCH TIME THAT ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT MAY BE APPROVED. AND FINALLY, THE PERMIT MAY BE REVOKED BY CITY COUNCIL OR DESIGNATED AGENT FOR FAILURE TO COMPLY WITH ANY OF THE LISTED CONDITIONS OR ANY OTHER LOCAL, STATE, OR FEDERAL LAW. SO STAFF ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT. WITH THE CONDITIONS WE JUST COVERED. ADDITIONAL MULTIFAMILY HOUSING APPEARS TO BE AN APPROPRIATE LAND USE. IT WOULD MATCH THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT IN THE AREA, WHICH IS NOT NECESSARILY SUITABLE OR DESIRABLE FOR COMMERCIAL 
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DEVELOPMENT. DESPITE THE COMMERCIAL ZONING. THE PROPOSAL ALSO MEETS THE COMP PLAN OBJECTIVE OF PROVIDING DIVERSE AND ATTAINABLE HOUSING STOCK IN THE CITY, AND IT MEETS THAT CRITERIA FOR INFILL DEVELOPMENT THAT MATCHES THE CHARACTER OF ITS SURROUNDINGS. WHERE WE'VE GOT THE EXISTING APARTMENTS IN THE AREA AND ACCESS TO RESOURCES LIKE BUS STOPS. WE FEEL THAT THE CONDITIONS DRAFTED WILL ENSURE THAT THE PROPERTY IS DEVELOPED ACCORDING TO THE GOALS AND PRINCIPLES OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AS WELL AS, AS WELL AS MAKING SURE THE SITE MATCHES WHAT'S PRESENTED IN THE APPLICATION AND SHOWN ON THE PLANS THAT THE APPLICANT PROVIDED. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU ALL HAVE FOR ME. OTHERWISE, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE. AND THEN, JUST AS A REMINDER, PER THE PLANNING COMMISSION BYLAWS, WE DO HAVE TO ALLOW FOR A REBUTTAL PERIOD BY THE APPLICANT FOLLOWING ANY PUBLIC COMMENT RECEIVED IN CASE THERE ARE ANY CLARIFICATIONS TO BE MADE OR ADDITIONAL CONSIDERATIONS. BUT WITH THAT, I THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. SO DOES THE APPLICANT WANT TO GO NOW OR AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING? I COULD GO NOW. OKAY. OKAY, FINE. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. GREG MUSTARD WITH COOPER COMPANIES. THANK YOU FOR HAVING US OUT TONIGHT AND CONSIDERING OUR REQUEST. JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU JUST A QUICK OVERVIEW OF OUR COMPANY AND WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO. SO COOPER COMPANIES IS AN INTEGRATED COMPANY WITH DEVELOPMENT, CONSTRUCTION AND PROPERTY MANAGEMENT. WE'VE BEEN IN BUSINESS FOR OVER 35 YEARS, AND WE OWN AND OPERATE OVER 16,000 UNITS AND OVER 350 PROPERTIES THROUGHOUT 18 STATES. WE OWN ALL OF OUR PROPERTIES. SO WE'RE NOT GOING OUT TO SELL ANY ONCE THEY'VE BEEN DEVELOPED. SO WE WANT TO BE A PART OF THE COMMUNITY FOR A LONG TIME, AS YOU'VE ALREADY WITNESSED WITH THE FIRST PHASE OF LIBERTY POINT. WE YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS I'D LIKE TO MENTION, TOO, IS THAT WITH OUR PROPERTIES, WE DO HAVE ON SITE PROPERTY MANAGEMENT THROUGHOUT THE WEEK AND THEN AND ON SITE SERVICE TECH AS WELL. SO WE'RE HERE TONIGHT, OBVIOUSLY TO REQUEST A SPECIAL USE PERMIT AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE. AS IT APPLIES TO THIS NEW DEVELOPMENT THAT WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. NEXT, WE'LL OPEN UP THE FLOOR NOW FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE TO APPROVE A REQUEST BY WALTER COOPER DEVELOPMENT INCORPORATED ON BEHALF OF 33 PINE TREE, LLC AND CHAD MEAD SING, LLC, FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR A MULTI FAMILY DWELLING AS AUTHORIZED AND CONTROLLED BY THE R5 DWELLING DISTRICT STANDARDS. 
          MISS RUDOLPH, WOULD YOU RAISE YOUR. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SEEING NO HANDS, THIS PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED. NEXT DISCUSSION FROM MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. QUESTION. VICE MAYOR HILL. YES. WHAT IS THE AVERAGE INCOME OF THE PERSONS WHO WILL BE THE APPLICANTS? I'M SORRY. 
          COULD YOU REPEAT THAT REAL QUICK? WHAT IS THE AVERAGE INCOME OF THE APPLICANTS WHO WILL BE PUTTING IN FOR THIS? OKAY, SO. SO FOR A FOUR PERSON HOUSEHOLD, THE RANGE WOULD BE AROUND A LITTLE OVER $33,000, UP TO $88,000. OKAY. ARE THERE ANY VOUCHERS THAT ARE CONSIDERED IN THIS PROJECT THAT THERE'S A PERSON COME IN WITH, YOU KNOW, STATE OR FEDERAL VOUCHERS? SO WE'VE REQUESTED FROM VIRGINIA HOUSING SECTION EIGHT, 11 VOUCHERS FOR INDIVIDUALS WHO MAY HAVE A DISABILITY. SO YOU SAY SECTION EIGHT VOUCHERS. 811 IT'S DIFFERENT THAN A SECTION EIGHT VOUCHER. SO WHEN YOU EXPLAIN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A SECTION EIGHT AND DISABILITY DISABILITIES. SO IN ORDER TO RECEIVE A SECTION 811 VOUCHER, THE INDIVIDUAL MUST HAVE A DISABILITY. WHETHER IT'S A PHYSICAL HANDICAP OR IF IT'S A DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITY. TO RECEIVE THOSE VOUCHERS. SECTION EIGHT THEY WOULD QUALIFY BASED ON THEIR INCOME AND RECEIVE A PROJECT BASED VOUCHER. SO THAT WOULD BE SOMEONE WITHOUT A DISABILITY OR OR IF THEY MAY 
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HAVE A DISABILITY TO. SO ARE YOU TELLING ME INDIVIDUALS WHO WERE APPLIED FROM THIS FOR THIS PARTICULAR WOULD BE INDIVIDUALS WHO MAY HAVE PHYSICAL OR MENTAL DISABILITIES, BUT NOT FINANCIAL DISABILITIES? CORRECT. YEAH. IN ORDER TO LIVE IN OUR DEVELOPMENT, YOU MUST HAVE A JOB. AND THEN WE RUN PREVIOUS LANDLORD HISTORY. CREDIT HISTORY AND CHECK WITH THE LANDLORDS AS WELL. AND CRIMINAL BACKGROUND CHECKS. OKAY. MR. MAYOR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. MY ONLY HESITATION. 
          AND WITH THE PLANNERS AS WELL. I KNOW SOME OF YOU ALL ARE JUST GETTING ON. IS THAT LOOKING AT THE OUR CURRENT. MEDIAN HOUSEHOLD INCOME IN THE CITY OF PETERSBURG THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET OUR MEDIAN HOUSEHOLD INCOME UP. AND I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE MAY SAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, THAT'S MOST OF THE PEOPLE IN PETERSBURG, BUT WE'RE ONE OF THE MOST IMPOVERISHED COMMUNITIES IN STATE OF VIRGINIA. WE RANKED LOW AT A LOT OF NUMBERS AS FAR AS HEALTH AND ECONOMICS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. SO WE'RE TRYING TO GET OUR MEDIAN HOUSEHOLD INCOME UP, AND WE MAY ALREADY HAVE PEOPLE HERE THAT WE'RE TAKING THAT TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF SUCH PROGRAMS AS THAT APARTMENTS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. BUT TO BRING MORE IN, I'M VERY HESITANT FOR THOSE REASONS. I UNDERSTAND THAT SURROUNDING AREAS HAVE BEEN CLOSING THE DOORS ON THOSE, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE WE ARE OPENING THEM UP. AND I DO UNDERSTAND THAT WE WANT HOUSING FOR EVERYONE. BUT SEEMS LIKE PETERSBURG IS THE ONLY ONE THAT'S HAVING HOUSING FOR EVERYONE, AND OTHER AREAS ARE CLOSING IT DOWN. SO I JUST, YOU KNOW. 6 IN 1 HAND, HALF A DOZEN IN THE OTHER. I JUST I'M STRUGGLING WITH THAT AS IT I KNOW IT'S GOING TO BE A NICE FACILITY. YOU DON'T HAVE TO SELL ME ON THAT. I KNOW IT'S GOING TO HAVE ALL THE BELLS AND WHISTLES AND ALL THAT, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, I'M TRYING TO SEE HOW CAN WE ATTRACT. AND YOU SAY EVERYONE IS GOING TO BE WORKING, HAS TO WORK, HAS TO HAVE A JOB. YEAH. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I RESERVE MY COMMENTS FOR LATER. THANK YOU. OKAY. AND IS IT OKAY IF I JUST TOUCH ON THAT A LITTLE BIT? SURE. SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK JUST IN REGARDS TO THE QUALITY OF THE DEVELOPMENT, YOU'VE SEEN LIBERTY POINT THIS, YOU KNOW, WE BUILD OUR PROPERTIES TO A HIGHER STANDARD BECAUSE WE OWN ALL OF OUR PROPERTIES FOR A LONG TIME. 
          SO WE DON'T WANT THEM FALLING APART IN LIKE 3 TO 5 YEARS. SO WITH THE FEDERAL TAX CREDITS THAT WE RECEIVE, WE HAVE A 15 YEAR COMPLIANCE PERIOD WITH THE STATE. WE TYPICALLY GO UP TO 45. 
          AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD DO HERE TOO. BUT AFTER THE 15 YEAR COMPLIANCE PERIOD, WE ARE ELIGIBLE TO REAPPLY FOR TAX CREDITS AND RENOVATE THE BUILDINGS. SO WITH THE MAJORITY OF OUR PROPERTIES THAT HAVE BEEN IN OPERATION, WE ARE NOW GOING BACK IN REAPPLYING FOR TAX CREDITS AND UPDATING THE CONSTRUCTION ON THE DEVELOPMENTS THEMSELVES. SO THAT WAY, YOU KNOW, WE CONTINUE TO HAVE A NICE PROPERTY FOR MANY YEARS TO COME. SO DO YOU THINK CAN YOU, CAN YOU MAKE YOUR PROJECT JUST STRAIGHT MARKET RATE. YOU KNOW, JUST REGULAR APARTMENTS WITH NO VOUCHER SYSTEMS AND THINGS LIKE THAT? I'M ASKING. YEAH. SO TYPICALLY SO I GUESS FOR OUR COMPANY, 99% OF WHAT WE DO IS AFFORDABLE HOUSING. SO I WOULD SAY FOR MARKET RATE HOUSING, THAT'S NOT SOMETHING WE WOULD CONSIDER FOR THIS SITE. YOU KNOW, IT REALLY OUR BREAD AND BUTTER SINCE INCEPTION OF THE COMPANY HAS BEEN AFFORDABLE HOUSING. WE'RE VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT IT, AND WE KNOW THERE'S A STRONG NEED HERE AND THROUGHOUT THE STATE. THE TAX CREDITS THAT WE'RE APPLYING FOR ARE VERY COMPETITIVE. SO WE'RE GOING UP AGAINST COMMUNITIES LIKE HOPEWELL AND RICHMOND AND NORTHERN VIRGINIA, THE TIDEWATER MSA TWO FOR THE FOR TAX CREDITS. 
          AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE THIS AS COMPETITIVE AS WE CAN AS WE GO THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS. SO WHEN YOU USE THE WORD COMPETITIVE, DOES THAT MEAN THAT YOU'RE USING THAT YOU'RE SAYING YOU'RE TRYING TO MAKE IT LESS AFFORDABLE OR EASIER TO GET IN FOR. CITIZENS WHO CAN'T AFFORD IT? SO BASICALLY, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ALLOCATES THE TAX CREDITS TO THE STATE AGENCY TO 
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ALLOCATE, YOU KNOW, BASED ON A QUALIFIED ALLOCATION PLAN AND THE QUALIFIED ALLOCATION PLAN. 
          THEY BASICALLY HAVE A SCORE SHEET BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO FIND A WAY TO EVALUATE DEALS. SO, YOU KNOW, THEY'LL LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, PROXIMITY TO A BUS STOP, THE FINANCIAL FEASIBILITY OF THE DEALS. YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE YOU HAVE ZONING. AND THEN FEATURES THAT YOUR DEVELOPMENT HAS JUST IN REGARDS TO LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE ENERGY EFFICIENCY OF THE DEVELOPMENT THEMSELVES, WHICH HERE WE'RE, YOU KNOW, APPLYING FOR ENERGY STAR CERTIFICATION. AND SO, YOU KNOW, OUT OF 100 POINTS, JUST FOR INSTANCE, YOU KNOW, YOU WANT TO SCORE 100 POINTS. SO WE TRY TO GO THROUGH, CHECK AS MANY BOXES AS WE CAN TO, YOU KNOW, RECEIVE THOSE POINTS BECAUSE DEALS CAN WIN AN ALLOCATION OF CREDITS, YOU KNOW, JUST BY A HALF A POINT IN SOME INSTANCES. AND SO WE FEEL THAT WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT IT'S VERY COMPETITIVE UNDER THE CURRENT ROUND. AND WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DEVELOP ACROSS FROM OUR FIRST PHASE AS WELL, WHICH WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT. THANK YOU. YEAH. JUST TO PIGGYBACK ON SOMETHING YOU JUST SAID ABOUT THOSE THOSE CREDITS, YOU SEE SO MUCH GOING ON WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. THEY'RE ROLLING BACK A LOT OF PROGRAMS LIKE THAT. WHAT HAPPENS IF THIS GETS CUT BEFORE, IF THEY CUT THIS PROGRAM AND ARE YOU ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD WITHOUT IT OR DOES THIS, THIS DEVELOPMENT KIND OF SIT IDLE WITH WHAT'S GOING ON UP IN DC? YES. SO THE TAX CREDITS ARE IN THE IRS CODE. SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S ALREADY ALLOCATED. WE DON'T ANTICIPATE ANY CUTS TO THE PROGRAM BECAUSE THE STATE ALREADY HAS THESE FUNDS FOR THIS ROUND. SO IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD, YOU KNOW, HAVE ANY ISSUES OBTAINING ONCE WE RECEIVE OUR ALLOCATION FROM THE STATE. TIMELINE WISE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO APPLY MARCH 13TH. I BELIEVE WE SHOULD SHOULD HEAR SOMETHING BY JULY OF THIS YEAR. IF WE RECEIVE THE CREDITS FROM THERE, IT'S PROBABLY ANOTHER 8 TO 10 MONTHS TO GO THROUGH THE ENTITLEMENT PROCESS TO TAKE THE PROJECT FROM A CONCEPTION PHASE TO GETTING THE BUILDING PERMITS. AND THEN IT'S PROBABLY ANOTHER YEAR BEFORE IT'S DEVELOPED OR CONSTRUCTED. I'M SORRY. OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. NEXT I'LL GO TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION WITH ANY QUESTIONS. I RIGHT, I'M GOING TO PLAN AND THEN I'M COMING BACK TO US. YEAH. I'M JUST WANT TO SPLIT. I WANT US TO DOMINATE THE CONVERSATION. ANY ANY QUESTIONS? YES. MICROPHONE RIGHT THERE, PLEASE. YES. THANK YOU. SO. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. VICE MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. I ATTENDED THE GOVERNOR'S HOUSING CONFERENCE THIS PAST NOVEMBER. AND IN HIS SPEECH HE WAS VERY HIGH ON INTERNET BROADBAND. MY QUESTION TO YOU IS, WILL THIS DEVELOPMENT BE EQUIPPED WITH INTERNET BROADBAND? YEAH, THIS DEVELOPMENT WILL INCLUDE HIGH SPEED INTERNET FOR THE TENANTS. OKAY. THANK YOU. 
          GOOD EVENING. COUNCIL. I HAVE A QUESTION I'M LOOKING AT. I READ THROUGH ALL THE PAPERS. DID I OVERLOOK A PLAYGROUND OR ANY TYPE OF OUTDOOR FACILITY FOR CHILDREN? SINCE IT'S DESIGNED FOR FAMILIES? THIS IS SO THAT THAT LITTLE BROWN BOX THERE IS THE. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT TYPE OF PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT DO YOU ALL USUALLY PUT THERE? SO I DON'T KNOW THE AGE RANGES I DON'T I COULD GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT. YOU KNOW. BUT IT WOULD BE SIMILAR PROBABLY THE ONE WE HAVE AT LIBERTY POINT ONE. WHICH, YOU KNOW, COULD GO UP TO, YOU KNOW, CHILDREN EIGHT, TEN YEARS OLD. I SAW THE ONE AT LIBERTY POINT ONE, AND IT HAD JUST A SLIDING BOARD. IT HAD SOME. IT WAS A VERY SMALL CONSIDERING THE AMOUNT OF UNITS HERE, AND IT IS GEARED TOWARDS FAMILY. 
          PERSONALLY. BEING OF A FAMILY OF KIDS WHO ENJOY PLAYING OUTSIDE, I'D LIKE TO SEE MORE OF A FACILITY FOR THE FAMILIES TO ENJOY OUTDOOR PLAY. OKAY. AND I BELIEVE WE MAY HAVE. IS IT OKAY IF I TAKE A LOOK AT THE PLAN THAT YOU HAVE, JUST TO MAKE SURE IT INCLUDES THE OTHER ITEMS HERE? A SMALL A SMALL BROWN BOX THERE? YEAH. SO WE ALSO HAVE A GRILL AND PICNIC AREA AS WELL NEXT TO THE PLAYGROUND RIGHT HERE, SO THE FAMILIES CAN ENJOY AND WATCH THEIR KIDS WHILE THEY'RE PLAYING AS WELL. BUT, YOU KNOW, I CAN TALK TO CONSTRUCTION AND FIGURE OUT KIND 
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OF WHAT KIND OF PLAYGROUND WE WOULD BE LOOKING TO INSTALL THERE. BUT IT IS USUALLY A WIDE RANGE, YOU KNOW, OF CHILDREN THAT CAN UTILIZE IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER. MAYOR. 
          YES. VICE MAYOR. MEMBER OF COUNCIL. I HAVE A CONCERN. AS WE'RE ABOUT TO MOVE FORWARD, AND IT'S GOING TO BE NEXT DOOR TO OUR LARGEST PROJECT THAT WE HAVE IN THE CITY. WE CAN'T HARDLY HEAR YOU WITH. WITH THIS PROJECT BEING NEXT DOOR TO OUR LARGEST PROJECT WE'RE ABOUT TO DEVELOP UPCOMING WITH THE TYPE OF UNIT THAT'S GOING TO BE, I THINK IT'S BRINGING THE WRONG TARGET AUDIENCE WHERE WE WANT TO HAVE INTO THAT AREA. BUT MY CONCERN IS WITH THE CRIME AND NOT SAYING THAT THEY ARE. THEY DO A GREAT JOB WITH THE PROJECTS THEY ALREADY HAVE. I WENT AND CHECKED IT OUT SEVERAL TIMES, BUT I THINK PIGGYBACK ON VICE MAYOR. I THINK WE NEED TO. HOLD BACK A LITTLE ON THESE TYPE OF PROJECTS WITHIN THE CITY, AS WE'RE TRYING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH GROWTH AND BRINGING MORE REVENUE WITHIN THE CITY. THAT'S JUST MY COMMENT. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. AT THIS TIME, I'M GOING TO BOUNCE BACK TO THE COUNCIL SIDE BEFORE I BEFORE WE LEAVE, COUNCILMEMBER SMITH LEE. YES. GOOD EVENING. WITH THE VOUCHER PROGRAM, YOU SAID THAT IT WAS WAS 11 SOME VOUCHERS. SECTION 811, SECTION 811. OKAY. YEAH. 811 OKAY. SO THAT PARTICULAR VOUCHER IS FOR HANDICAPPED OR DISABLED INDIVIDUALS. CORRECT. YEAH. DEVELOPMENTALLY DISABLED OR HANDICAPPED. OKAY. AND THEREFORE NO OTHER VOUCHERS IS JUST THE SECTION 811 811. YEAH. 811. SO YEAH. SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER LIKE SECTION EIGHT PROJECT BASED VOUCHER. BUT AS WITH ANY COMMUNITY, IF THERE'S A TENANT THAT HAS A PORTABLE VOUCHER THAT THEY COULD TAKE TO ANY COMPLEX THROUGHOUT THE CITY, EVEN IF IT'S MARKET RATE, THEY COULD USE IT THERE TOO. IF SOME TENANT HAS ONE, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD STILL EVALUATE THEM BASED ON, YOU KNOW, OUR CRITERIA WITH THE PROPERTY MANAGEMENT COMPANY. SO THEY WOULD STILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH ALL OF OUR, YOU KNOW, TENANT SCREENING AND, YOU KNOW, ENSURE THAT THEY MEET OUR REQUIREMENTS. SO DO YOU KNOW APPROXIMATELY HOW MANY OF THOSE UNITS WOULD BE FOR JUST THE HANDICAP? I THINK IS IT 10%? EIGHT. EIGHT UNITS. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THAT'LL BE ADA. YEAH. ACCESSIBLE. SO IN ORDER FOR ANYONE TO BE QUALIFIED FOR. THESE APARTMENTS, THEY MUST HAVE A JOB. THEY MUST. YOU'LL DO A CREDIT CHECK ON THEM. YOU ALSO GOING TO DO A BACKGROUND CHECK AND A REFERENCE CHECK. CORRECT? CORRECT. OKAY. AND THEY HAVE TO MAKE BETWEEN YOU SAID 31 TO 80,000. NO. IT WAS SO JUST I WAS JUST KIND OF STATING THE INCOMES FOR FOUR PERSON HOUSEHOLD. SO FOR A FOUR PERSON IT WOULD BE AROUND 33,000 A LITTLE OVER THAT, THAT UP TO A LITTLE OVER 88,000. IF YOU HAVE A FOUR PERSON HOUSEHOLD THAT COULD QUALIFY. SO EACH UNIT IS GOING TO BE DEPENDENT ON THEIR SALARY. 
          YES. OR THEY ALL ARE GOING TO BE THE SAME PRICE. YEAH. SO THE INDIVIDUAL THAT'S APPLYING HAS TO INCOME QUALIFY FOR THE UNIT ITSELF. SO WE VERIFY THAT THROUGH PAY STUBS AND THINGS LIKE THAT TO ENSURE THAT THEY QUALIFY AND THAT THEY HAVE THAT INCOME. SO MOST OF THE UNITS WILL BE ON THE AVERAGE OF WHAT, A MONTH. DO YOU HAVE THE UNIT MIX? I DON'T KNOW IF I HAVE THE AVERAGE, BUT I COULD GIVE YOU A RANGE, A RENTAL RANGE FOR YOU IF THAT WORKS. SORRY, I THOUGHT I BROUGHT IT UP HERE WITH ME. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO THE RENTS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR A ONE BEDROOM UNIT, THE NET RENTS WOULD RANGE FROM $540 TO 1170. TWO BEDROOMS WOULD BE 625. UP TO 
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1310. AND THREE BEDROOM WOULD BE 685. UP TO 1530. OKAY. HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT. ENGAGING IN, LIKE, SENIOR CITIZENS? SENIORS CAN LIVE HERE TOO. SO IT'S REALLY SINGLES, SENIORS, INDIVIDUALS WHO MAY HAVE JUST GRADUATED, GOT THEIR FIRST JOB LOOKING FOR AN AFFORDABLE PLACE TO LIVE. IT CAN LIVE AT THIS DEVELOPMENT. OKAY. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WANT TO ASK YOU IS YOU DIDN'T REALLY ANSWER THE QUESTION THAT THE MAYOR HAD ASKED YOU ABOUT THE TAX CREDIT IN REFERENCE TO EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. I WORK FOR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND KNOW ABOUT CONTRACTS, AND IF YOU BEEN READING IN THE NEWS, THEY'RE NOT REALLY GOING THEY'RE NOT TRYING TO AWARD TOO MANY CONTRACTS. YES. SO IF YOU DON'T GET YOUR YOUR FUNDING, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO SUSTAIN THE DEVELOPMENT? YEAH. SO THE TAX CREDIT IS NOT REALLY A CONTRACT. THIS IS ACTUALLY IN THE IRS CODE. SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S NOT GOING AWAY. THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO IN AND REPEAL A WHOLE BUNCH OF ITEMS IN THE CODE, WHICH YOU KNOW, WITH THIS PROGRAM IT'S BEEN SUCCESSFUL. IT'S ONE OF THE BEST PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS THAT'S BEEN AROUND FOR MANY YEARS. WE DO NOT BELIEVE IT'S GOING TO GO AWAY. AND THE CREDITS HAVE ALREADY BEEN ALLOCATED FOR THIS YEAR FOR THAT ARE AVAILABLE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT. I WOULD ADVISE YOU TO DO A DOUBLE AND TRIPLE CHECK TO ENSURE THAT YOUR FUNDING IS THERE. I'M SERIOUS. YEAH. OKAY. YEAH. YEAH. WE'RE I'M. I'M COMPLETED WITH MY QUESTIONS. GO TO MR. WILLIAMS. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I JUST WANTED TO GET SOME SOME CLARITY SO I UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. SO WE DON'T HAVE SECTION EIGHT VOUCHERS, WHICH ARE, YOU KNOW WHAT WE WOULD CONSIDER LOW INCOME HOUSING VOUCHERS. AND YOU'RE NOT USING THE VOUCHERS YOU'RE ACCEPTING. SIMPLY DEAL WITH THE PERSON'S STATUS AS DISABLED. YEAH. AND SO I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THIS INCOME RESTRICTION COMES IN. WHAT WHAT WHY ARE YOU IMPOSING THE INCOME RESTRICTION PER HOUSEHOLD. IS THAT DEALING WITH YOUR TAX CREDITS OR WHAT. HOW DOES THAT COME ABOUT? YEAH, THIS IS A TECH DEVELOPMENT. LIKE IT IS A TECH DEVELOPMENT LIKE LIBERTY POINT ONE. OKAY. AND SO YOU DON'T THINK THAT THE CITY ALREADY HAS AN OVERSATURATION OF TECH PROPERTIES? I DO NOT BELIEVE SO. WE JUST RECEIVED OUR MARKET STUDY FROM A THIRD PARTY ANALYST WHO SAID THERE'S GREAT DEMAND FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT. THE RENTS THAT WE HAVE PROPOSED, THEY DON'T SEE AN ISSUE WITH THOSE THEY BELIEVE IT WILL LEASE UP, AND WE'LL HAVE A WAITING LIST. I THINK IT'S IT NOWADAYS, TOO, WITH INTEREST RATES, WITH HIGH CONSTRUCTION PRICES, WITH LABOR AND MATERIALS. IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO BUILD A MARKET RATE DEVELOPMENT. YOU KNOW, WITH THIS PIECE OF GROUND, IT'S BEEN SITTING THERE FOR MANY YEARS, UNDEVELOPED. AS A COMPANY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING TO COME IN AND DEVELOP A LITTLE OVER WHAT DO WE HAVE HERE. SO EVEN WITH THE SUCCESS OR WHAT SEEMS LIKE A SUCCESS OF THE AQUA APARTMENTS AT MARKET RATE THAT ARE NOT FAR FROM WHERE YOU'RE DEVELOPING, YOU THINK THAT YOUR YOUR APARTMENTS CAN'T COMPETE AT MARKET RATE. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? NO, WE JUST DON'T DEVELOP MARKET RATE APARTMENTS. WE DEVELOP AFFORDABLE HOUSING. YOU KNOW, THIS WILL BE A $18.9 MILLION INVESTMENT WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. AS A COMPANY, WE LIKE TO HIRE LOCALLY FOR THE CONSTRUCTION AND THEN REGIONALLY IF NEEDED AND THEN THROUGHOUT THE STATE IF WE NEED TO. BUT YOU KNOW, IT'LL BE A NICE ECONOMIC, YOU KNOW, INCENTIVE TO THE CITY TO, YOU KNOW, THE PROPERTY ITSELF PROBABLY ISN'T PRODUCING A LOT. AND REAL ESTATE TAX IN ITS CURRENT STATE, YOU KNOW, I BELIEVE WITH THE DEVELOPMENT AS WE HAVE IT RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD BE LOOKING TO ADD, YOU KNOW, I THINK ESTIMATED AT THIS TIME AROUND $54,000 A YEAR IN REAL ESTATE TAXES. WHERE IT'S NOT EVEN GETTING ANYTHING CLOSE TO THAT AT THIS TIME. OKAY. COUNCILMAN JONES. THANK YOU, MR. 
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MAYOR. AND THANK YOU, SIR. AND THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY THAT'S HERE. AND THANK YOU, ZONING FOR YOUR FOR YOUR QUESTIONS. THANK YOU TO COUNCIL FOR ALL OF THEIR QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS. ISSUE OR NON ISSUE HOWEVER YOU WANT TO LOOK AT IT. I NEED YOU TO PULL UP THE SITE PLAN PLEASE. 
          WHOEVER'S IN CONTROL OF THIS THING. PULL UP THE SITE PLAN. AND I'M HEARING UP HERE. LIKE I'M HEARING VOUCHERS. I'M HEARING ALL KIND OF STUFF. AND I THINK THE FEAR IS, THE FEAR IS. 
          IMMA KEEP IT REAL. SOME PEOPLE THINK THAT IT'S GOING TO FEED POOR PEOPLE IN THIS CITY. SOME PEOPLE THINK THAT THE CITIZENS ARE POOR. AND I KEEP SAYING OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN THAT THE PEOPLE OF PETERSBURG IS NOT POOR. THEY ARE POWER. WE HAVE TO GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXERCISE THAT POWER. NOW LOOK, PULL UP THAT SITE PLAN. I WANT TO SHOW YOU GUYS SOMETHING AND LOOK AT THE ALREADY. IT'S ALREADY DEVELOPED LIBERTY POINT. NOW, I HOPE YOU GUYS HAD THE CHANCE TO GO AND SEE THIS LIBERTY POINT. THERE'S NO STRAIN ON OUR RESOURCES. THERE'S NO STRAIN ON THE COMMUNITY. THERE'S NO PROBLEMS THERE OR ANYTHING. IT'S OUT THE WAY. IT'S ON ITS OWN ROAD. NOW YOU LOOK ACROSS FROM IT, WE SAY, SOME MAY SAY WE DON'T WANT THAT UP THERE. WE DON'T WANT LIVE TECH. WE DON'T WANT LOW INCOME. WE DON'T WANT THIS. WE DON'T WANT THAT. WHAT ELSE WOULD YOU PUT THERE? AND WHAT ARE WE WAITING ON? IT'S GOING TO SIT THERE. NOBODY'S GOING TO BUILD MANSIONS RIGHT THERE. IF YOU WANT HIGH INCOME PEOPLE. HELL, 33,000 TO 88,000 SALARY. PRETTY MUCH. I'M NOT EVEN MAKING THAT RIGHT NOW. YOU'RE LOOKING AT PEOPLE LIKE ME THAT CAN LIVE IN PLACES LIKE THAT. NONE OF US ARE IMMUNE TO LIVING INTO PLACES LIKE THIS. 
          AND WE WANT TO SIT HERE AND HIDE AND PUT ALL THESE RESTRICTIONS ON THE DEVELOPER. WHEN THE PROPERTY BEEN SITTING THERE. YOU ALREADY OWN IT, DON'T YOU? I'M SORRY. YOU ALREADY OWN THAT PROPERTY. WE OWN LIBERTY POINT ONE. YES, ALREADY OWN IT ACROSS. IT'S GOING RIGHT ACROSS. THAT'S A BEAUTIFUL PLACE. AND WE GOT TO GET OUT OF OUR FEARS. SEE, FEAR IS JUST SO CONSISTENT. IT'S THE LOVE THAT'S HERE AND THERE. FEAR. GET OUT OF YOUR FEAR. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DECENT FAMILIES NOW. HE ALREADY SAID THIS. IT'S. YOU ALREADY GOT APARTMENTS ALREADY. THIS. MEET THE GOALS AND THE PRINCIPLES OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. AND WE'RE SITTING HERE. WE'RE SITTING HERE WANTING TO DENY OR THINKING ABOUT IT. POSSIBLY WHEN WHAT ELSE WOULD WE PUT THERE? Y'ALL THINK ABOUT IT. WE SAY WE GOT A BIG DEVELOPMENT COMING NEXT DOOR. IT'S NOT THAT CLOSE TO IT, BUT THINK ABOUT WHAT ELSE IS COMING HERE. PEOPLE NEED SOMEWHERE TO LIVE. THEY NEED A PLACE TO LIVE. WE DON'T HAVE IT YET. PEOPLE ARE MOVING HERE IN DROVES. THEY ARE BUYING UP EVERYTHING. THERE'S PEOPLE THAT'S GOING TO COME AND START WORKING ON THIS CASINO AND ANYTHING ELSE THAT'S COMING WITH NOWHERE TO LIVE. THERE'S PEOPLE LIKE ME, AND I AM NOT ASHAMED TO TELL YOU MY SITUATION. THAT MAY HAVE TO LIVE SOMEWHERE LIKE THIS. WE GOT TO GET OUT OF OUR OWN WAY. WHAT IS IT GOING TO HURT THIS CITY? TO PUT THESE APARTMENTS RIGHT THERE? NOTHING. 
          NOTHING. ESPECIALLY IF IT'S ALREADY LIKE THE ONES THAT'S ALREADY BUILT. THEY JUST WANT TO DUPLICATE WHAT THEY GOT OVER THERE. YOU NEVER HEAR ANYTHING ABOUT THAT AREA BAD. WE WANT TO DEVELOP IT. I WISH TO SEE IT DEVELOP. AND, MR. MAYOR, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THIS SPECIAL USE PERMIT, AND I ALREADY KNOW WHAT'S PROBABLY GOING TO HAPPEN. YOU NEED TO ALLOW THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO PROVIDE YOU WITH THE RECOMMENDATION. YOU CAN'T MAKE THE MOTION YET. MY APOLOGIES. PLANNING COMMISSION. BUT, MR. MAYOR, I'M DONE. THANK YOU. OKAY. AM I ALLOWED TO ADD WITH JUST THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT PLANNING COMMISSION OR THE STAFF HAS PROPOSED? CAN I COMMENT ON SOMETHING TO CLARIFY? WOULD THAT BE OKAY, OR ARE WE PAST THAT? THANK YOU. 
          COMMISSIONER. OKAY. I GUESS ONE OF THE ITEMS I JUST WANTED TO, TO SEE IF WE WOULD BE ABLE TO AMEND WAS JUST ONE OF THE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS JUST FOR THE, THE IMPROVEMENTS ALONG PINE TREE DRIVE. YOU KNOW, WE YOU KNOW, IF YOU IF YOU LOOK AT THE STREET VIEW OF LIBERTY ONE. NOW WE HAVE A LOT OF THE NATIVE TREES THERE. AND YOU KNOW, WE'D LIKE TO KIND OF KEEP A BOULEVARD. LOOK THERE AS YOU'RE COMING DOWN THE, DOWN THE STREET. AND, YOU KNOW, WE WERE WONDERING IF WE WOULD BE ALLOWED TO AMEND THE RECOMMENDATION OF INCLUDING THE STREET FURNITURE, SIDEWALK AND 
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PEDESTRIAN LIGHTING. WE DON'T HAVE ANY SIDEWALKS GOING ON TO THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES AT THIS TIME. AND SO IT REALLY WE DON'T KNOW WHO WOULD UTILIZE THAT. AND SO I WOULD JUST REQUEST IF WE WERE ALLOWED TO AMEND THAT. SO LET ME GET THIS CLEAR. SO YOU DON'T WANT TO PUT THE SUPPORT. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE SIDEWALKS ON OUR PROPERTY. BUT LIKE ALONG PINE TREE DRIVE LIBERTY ONE DOESN'T HAVE ANY SIDEWALKS. AND THEN THE NEIGHBORS TO THE LEFT AND TO THE RIGHT DON'T HAVE ANY SIDEWALKS. SO IT REALLY WOULDN'T BE GOING ANYWHERE. BUT WE WOULD HAVE INTERNAL SIDEWALKS TO THE PLAYGROUND AND THROUGHOUT ALL THOSE PARKING SPACES. SO YEAH. 
          YEAH. GO AHEAD. ALL RIGHT. MISS. MISS, DO YOU WANT TO COMMENT ON THE NEED OF THE SIDEWALKS ON YOUR END BEING THE PLANNER? YES. ALL RIGHT. YEAH. JUST A COUPLE QUICK POINTS. THE SIDEWALK, THE STREET IMPROVEMENTS. THAT THAT PIECE FITS IN WITH. YOU KNOW, THE GOALS AND PRINCIPLES OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WHERE WE'RE CREATING A AN ENVIRONMENT THAT HAS THOSE AMENITIES FOR THE RESIDENTS, PARTICULARLY PEDESTRIANS. IT'S. WE HEAR A LOT OF SIDEWALK DOESN'T MAKE SENSE BECAUSE THERE'S NO SIDEWALK HERE NOW. BUT THAT'S WHY WE DON'T HAVE A CONNECTED PEDESTRIAN SYSTEM. IF THIS PARCEL DEVELOPS, THE PARCEL TO THE NORTH, DEVELOPS THE PARCEL TO THE WEST DEVELOPS. YOU'VE GOT A PEDESTRIAN SYSTEM THAT'S NOW CARRIED YOU THAT FAR. ONE LAST CLARIFICATION. I WOULD MAKE THE REQUIREMENT FOR SIDEWALK ALONG THE FRONTAGE OF THIS PROPERTY IS GOING TO APPLY REGARDLESS OF THIS SPECIAL USE PERMIT THAT THAT'S BUILT INTO THE CODE FOR ANY NEW DEVELOPMENT ON THE SITE. SO FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, THIS IS ABOUT ENSURING THAT IT IS A QUALITY DEVELOPMENT, THAT IT MEETS THOSE PRINCIPLES THAT ARE LAID OUT. AGAIN, THE USE IS APPROPRIATE, BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE FINISHED PRODUCT IS SOMETHING THAT SERVES THE RESIDENTS AND THE CITY IN THE BIGGER PICTURE. OKAY, JARED. I'M COUNCILMAN JONES WAS SAYING THAT THAT THAT HE IS IN HIS AREA AND HE WANTS THOSE SIDEWALKS AND HE REALLY WANT ONE MORE REALLY ON BOTH SIDES OF THE ROAD. CAN WE ACCOMMODATE THAT? I WOULD DEFER TO MR. WILLIAMS, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE THAT'S WITHIN OUR SCOPE WITH THIS PARTICULAR APPROVAL TO, TO DO SOMETHING ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET ON A SEPARATE AND NOT ON THE PART THAT'S ALREADY DEVELOPED. WE COULDN'T. SO UNFORTUNATELY, SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE LIMITED TO THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT THIS SIDE OF THE STREET. CAN I CAN I AMEND THAT, I GUESS AFTER HEARING THAT IT'S IN THE ZONING. 
          I'LL WITHDRAW MY REQUEST. AND, YOU KNOW, WE'LL UPDATE OUR SITE, PLAN TO SHOW SIDEWALKS AND THE REQUIREMENTS ON THE FRONTAGE OF THIS BUILDING. YES, COUNCILMAN JONES. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. 
          SIDEWALKS COMING DOWN THE STRIP. WHEN YOU TURN OFF A 460 HEADING TOWARDS PINE TREE. LIKE YOU SAID, THERE'S NO SIDEWALKS THERE ON EITHER SIDE. BUT I RESPECTFULLY, RESPECTFULLY ASK AND REQUEST THAT YOU BE WILLING TO PUT ONE ON THE OTHER EXISTING SIDE. I KNOW THAT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS, BUT ESPECIALLY THE DEVELOPMENT SIDE, BECAUSE I DO SEE PEOPLE WALKING FROM PINE TREE TO THE BUS STOP, WHICH IS MIDWAYS, AND I THINK THAT WOULD DEFINITELY COME COMPLETE OUR GOALS AND PRINCIPLES FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, YOU KNOW, FOR THAT AREA, BECAUSE PEOPLE WILL WALK FROM THAT AREA BACK TO THE MAIN STRIP. BUT THERE'S NO SIDEWALKS IN. SO YOU SAID THAT'S GOING TO BE IN THERE ON THE DEVELOPMENT SIDE. MY NEXT QUESTION IS HOW FAR IS IT GOING TO COME FROM THE ENTRANCE OF PINE TREE. BUT IS IT GOING TO THE SIDEWALK? THAT'S ONE OF THE CONDITIONS WOULD JUST BE ON THE FRONTAGE OF THIS LIBERTY POINT TWO. SO IT PROBABLY RUN THE FROM THE ONE SIDE OF THE PROPERTY THAT WE'RE BUYING TO THE OTHER SIDE OF THE PROPERTY. SO YOU'RE NOT CONSIDERING PUTTING A SIDEWALK DOWN THAT THAT STRIP. NO, NOT DOWN PINE TREE DRIVE. WE DON'T CONSIDER THAT. UNFORTUNATELY, WE DON'T HAVE FUNDS THAT WOULD, YOU KNOW, TO 
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INSTALL IT ALL THE WAY DOWN PINE TREE DRIVE AND THAT SOMEONE ELSE'S PROPERTY, TOO. SO WE CAN'T REALLY ENCROACH ON THEIR PROPERTY. SO AT LEAST ON OUR PROPERTY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE WILLING TO PUT IN THE SIDEWALKS AND, AND THE STREET LIGHTING AND THE, THE BENCHES ON THE BUILDING. BUT THAT'S ALL I GOT, MR. MAYOR. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. COUNCILOR MYERS. MR. MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO REQUEST THAT WE GO INTO CLOSED SESSION. OKAY. ALL RIGHT, MR. WILLIAMS. GIVE ME A MINUTE. 
          OKAY. ALL RIGHT, NEXT QUESTION, VICE MAYOR HILL. YES. WHILE HE'S LOOKING THAT UP, I JUST WANT TO MAKE A STATEMENT. HOW MUCH IS TOO MUCH? NOW, JUST. WE GOT A FOUR POINT. WE GOT A FOUR POINT SOMETHING BILLION DOLLAR PROJECT. THIS THIS COMING THIS COMING TO THAT AREA AND THAT. 
          AND I AND I AND I FEEL LIKE THAT THAT, THAT, THAT PARTICULAR, THAT PARTICULAR AREA THERE THAT IT WOULD, IT WOULD. CAN YOU LET ME TALK. DID IT WOULD DRUM UP ENERGY AND SYNERGY IN THAT AREA THAT WE WOULD GET THE RIGHT. PROJECT THERE. WE HAVE AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THE CITY OF PETERSBURG. WE HAD LIGHT TANK IN THE CITY OF PETERSBURG ALL THROUGHOUT OUR CITY. WE HAVE SENIOR CITIZENS COMPLEXES COMING. IT'S IN OUR CITY. WE HAVE HIGHRISES. SO I DON'T WANT PEOPLE IN THE CITY OF PETERSBURG THINKING THAT WE DON'T HAVE THESE THINGS AS ALREADY EXISTS IN OUR CITY. SO. BY THE. MAJOR PROJECT THAT'S COMING CLOSE THERE THAT I CAN, I CAN YOU CAN ALREADY SEE THAT THE ENERGY THAT'S COMING IN THE CITY, YOU SEE IT ALL AROUND. WE'VE BEEN DOING PROJECTS LIKE THIS FOR A LONG TIME. FOR A WHILE SINCE I'VE BEEN UP HERE. I'VE BEEN UP HERE SINCE 2015. SO. I'M READY TO GO INTO CLOSED SESSION. WHEN? OKAY. COUNCILMAN JONES, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, VICE MAYOR AND TO THE REST OF THE COUNCIL. AND PARDON ME IF I MAY SOUND RUDE WHEN I SAY THIS, BUT WHO ARE WE TO SAY WHAT'S RIGHT? DEVELOPMENT AND WHAT'S WRONG DEVELOPMENT IN THIS CITY? WHAT WE GOT HERE IS DEVELOPMENT. AND I'M NOT LOOKING AT WHAT'S COMING. I'M LOOKING AT WHAT'S HERE AND WHAT WE WANT TO COME HERE. AND THE THING ABOUT IT, MAN, WE HAVE TO PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES NOT JUST FOR DEVELOPERS, BUT FOR OUR PEOPLE, WHETHER THEY'RE HERE OR NOT. 
          THIS IS WHERE WE'RE AT. AND I CAN'T SIT HERE AND SAY THIS IS THE WRONG DEVELOPMENT. DOGGONE IT, THEY GOT ONE ALREADY ACROSS THE ROAD FROM THEM THAT'S IDENTICAL TO WHAT THEY WANT TO BUILD. AND WE'RE GOING TO STOP THAT. WE WANT TO STOP THAT. BUT WE GOT HICCUPS ABOUT IT. WHEN THERE'S NOTHING ELSE GOING TO GO ACROSS THERE, NOBODY'S GOING TO BUILD MANSIONS ACROSS FROM THE APARTMENTS. NOBODY'S GOING TO BUILD $400,000 HOMES ACROSS FROM THE APARTMENTS. PEOPLE NEED SOMEWHERE TO LIVE. AND I KEEP TELLING YOU, ONE OF US, SOME OF US, MAYBE ALL OF US. ONE DAY, WE NEED SOMEWHERE TO LIVE. ALL OF Y'ALL MAY NEED SOMEWHERE TO LIVE. WE GOT TO STOP THIS MADNESS. I DON'T SEE WHAT IT'S STOPPING. I DON'T I DON'T EVEN SEE. WHY WE SHOULD EVEN PROLONG IT. BUT WE'LL GO INTO CLOSED SESSION, AND I. I'M STILL GOING TO MAKE MY MOTION WHEN I COME OUT. IF IT'S OKAY, MR. MAYOR. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. NOW, AT THIS TIME, I ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CONVENE IN CLOSED SESSION PURSUANT TO 2.2 DASH 3711 A SEVEN OF THE CODE OF VIRGINIA, FOR THE PURPOSE OF CONSULTATION WITH LEGAL COUNSEL REGARDING THE REQUIREMENTS OF ARTICLE 23, SECTION ONE OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE PETERSBURG ZONING ORDINANCE. COUNCILMAN MYERS. SO MOVED. ALL RIGHT. VICE MAYOR HILL SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND. MISS HILL, COULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? COUNCIL MEMBER. CUTHBERT. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER. JONES. AYE. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER. MYERS. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER. LEE. AYE. VICE MAYOR. HILL. I MAYOR I. MOTION CARRIES. YES. PLANNING TO. WE'LL STAND. COME ON. THANK YOU. PLANNING COMMISSION. THEY WANT YOU IN CLOSED SESSION AS WELL. THEY WANT US TO GO SHOPPING. YEAH. LUKE. ALL RIGHT. YEAH. 
          YES, THE MAYOR WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CONCLUDE THE CLOSED SESSION, CALL TODAY AND CERTIFY IN ACCORDANCE WITH 2.2 3712 OF THE CODE OF VIRGINIA, THAT ONLY THOSE MATTERS WHICH CLOSED 
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SESSION WAS CALLED WERE DISCUSSED. ANY MEMBER WHO BELIEVES IN A DEPARTURE FROM THE FOREGOING SHALL STATE FOR THE RECORD IDENTIFYING THE SUBSTANCE OF THE DEPARTURE WHICH HE BELIEVES HAS OCCURRED. THIS REQUIRES A ROLL CALL VOTE, MR. MAYOR. VICE MAYOR HILL. SO MOVED. COUNCILMAN JONES. SECOND, COULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? COUNCIL MEMBER. CUTHBERT. AYE. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER. JONES. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER. MYERS. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER. SMITH. AYE. VICE MAYOR. HILL. AYE. MAYOR. PARAM. AYE, SIR. ALL RIGHT. AND FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION, MR. WILLIAMS. I BECAUSE THEY GOT TO COME OUT OF CLOSED. YES. THE CHAIRPERSON WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CONCLUDE THE CLOSED SESSION THAT THEY CALLED AND CERTIFIED IN ACCORDANCE WITH 2.237 12, THE CODE OF VIRGINIA. THAT ONLY THOSE MATTERS FOR WHICH THE CLOSED SESSION WAS CALLED WERE DISCUSSED. ANY PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBER WHO BELIEVES THAT THERE WAS A DEPARTURE FROM THE FOREGOING SHALL SO STATE FOR THE RECORD IDENTIFYING THE SUBSTANCE OF THE DEPARTURE WHICH THEY BELIEVE HAS OCCURRED. THIS REQUIRES A ROLL CALL VOTE. CAN I GET A MOTION? SO MOVED. SECOND. COMMISSIONER, HERE. COMMISSIONER. HARLEY. COMMISSIONER. DANIEL. YES. 
          COMMISSIONER. CATCH HIM BACK. YEAH. JUST POINT OF ORDER. IT REQUIRES AN AFFIRMATIVE OR NEGATIVE VOTE. NOT A YES OR NO. NO. ALL RIGHT. COMMISSIONER CANNON. AYE. COMMISSIONER. 
          HARLEY. HI. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. COMMISSIONER. KATZENBACH. HI. COMMISSIONER. 
          NORMAN. AYE. COMMISSIONER. BLAND. AND. CHAIRMAN. ALL RIGHT. MOTION CARRIES. NOW, WE ARE BACK OUT IN OPEN SESSION. NOW BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION. COMMISSIONER. CAN WE TAKE A MOTION ON THIS CASE? I'D LIKE TO TEN A MOTION. I KNOW, NOBODY. OKAY. THE MOTION TO APPROVE OR DISAPPROVE. OKAY. COMMISSIONER NORMAN. I MOVE THAT WE DENY THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT. SECOND. 
          MOVED AND PROPERLY. THANK YOU. IT'S BEEN MOVED IMPROPERLY. SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL THOSE OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT. CAN YOU CALL THE ROLL? YES. JERRY, DO YOU WANT ME TO CALL IT? I HAVE THEIR I HAVE THEIR NAMES. YES, SIR. ALL RIGHT. COMMISSIONER REINHART. IS NOT PRESENT. OH. THANK YOU. OKAY. COMMISSIONER KATZENBACH. HI. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. 
          COMMISSIONER HARRISTON. HARRISTON. NO. COMMISSIONER. CANNON. I. COMMISSIONER. NORMAN. 
          I. COMMISSIONER. HARLEY. COMMISSIONER. BLAND. COMMISSIONER. FORD. THE MOTION CARRIES. ALL RIGHT. NEXT TO BACK TO CITY COUNCIL. VICE MAYOR HILL. I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE DENIAL. I MOVE THAT WE SUPPORT THE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS DENIAL OF THE PROJECT. 
          COUNCILMAN MYERS. SECOND. MOTION A SECOND. ALL RIGHT. COUNCILMAN. OKAY. QUESTION. MR. WILLIAMS. AND JUST AS A POINT OF ORDER, IF COUNSEL CAN CLARIFY FOR THE FOR THE REASONS STATED DURING THE DISCUSSION. BUT IF YOU COULD PROVIDE SOME CLARIFICATION FOR THE REASON FOR THE DENIAL, IF YOU VOTE AFFIRMATIVE FOR THE DENIAL. THE REASON FOR THE DENIAL IS THAT OUR CITY IS ALREADY SATURATED WITH LACTATE AND SUBSIDIZE INCOME. HOUSING, IN THE CITY OF PETERSBURG. THERE ARE STILL VACANCIES THAT ARE OPEN, AND SEVERAL AREAS THAT HAVEN'T BEEN FILLED. IN THE CITY OF PETERSBURG. SO WE HAVE ENOUGH. I BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE MORE THAN OUR SHARE. THAT'S THE REASON. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. MISS HILL, COULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? COUNCIL MEMBER. 
          CUTHBERT. COUNCIL MEMBER. JONES. NO. COUNCIL MEMBER. MYERS. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER. LEE. AYE. VICE 
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MAYOR. HILL. AYE. MAYOR. PERRY. AYE. MOTION CARRIES. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE 
          [5.b. Public Hearing of an Ordinance Amending the Zoning Ordinance of the City of Petersburg  Pertaining to Creation and Regulation of a New Zoning District Entitled the ERC, Entertainment  and Resort Casino District]
NEXT ITEM, WHICH IS ITEM B, A PUBLIC HEARING OF AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PETERSBURG PERTAINING TO CREATION AND REGULATION OF A NEW ZONING DISTRICT ENTITLED THE AIR, ENTERTAINMENT AND RESORT CASINO DISTRICT. MISS MARK. THANKS. 
          MAYOR AND VICE MAYOR. COUNCIL. PLANNING COMMISSION. CHAIR. PLANNING COMMISSIONERS. NAOMI MOCK, PLANNING DIRECTOR FOR THE CITY OF PETERSBURG. TODAY, I'LL BE SHARING WITH YOU THE PROPOSED ZONING ORDINANCE FOR THE ENTERTAINMENT AND RESORT CASINO DISTRICT. SO HERE'S JUST A BACKGROUND OF WHERE WE'VE BEEN OVER THESE PAST FEW MONTHS. YEARS, EVEN GOING BEFORE THE VIRGINIA GENERAL ASSEMBLY TO GET APPROVAL FOR A CASINO IN THE CITY. THE VIRGINIA LOTTERY BOARD APPROVING THE PROPOSED CASINO AS WELL, THEN HAVING THE RESIDENTS VOTE THROUGH A REFERENDUM TO SUPPORT A CASINO IN THE CITY OF PETERSBURG. AND THEN, SINCE NOVEMBER 2024, STAFF AS WELL AS THE CITY MANAGER AND THE CASINO COMPANY ITSELF. WE'VE ALL BEEN WORKING TOGETHER TO COME UP WITH A ZONING DISTRICT LANGUAGE TO SHARE WITH YOU TODAY. SO OVERVIEW OF WHAT WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT, DEFINITIONS, OUTLINING THE PURPOSE OF THE DISTRICT, AS WELL AS SOME USE AND DESIGN REGULATIONS, AND TALKING ABOUT NOISE BUFFERS AND STREET REGULATIONS AS WELL. SO DEFINITIONS GENERAL LINE WITH THE STATE CODE. THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE. WHAT IS CASINO GAMING AND WHAT IS A CASINO GAMING ESTABLISHMENT. WE ALSO WENT THROUGH ESTABLISH A PURPOSE. AS YOU'RE AWARE, THIS IS UNLIKE ANYTHING THAT ANYONE'S GOING TO SEE IN PETERSBURG. SO WE ARE LOOKING TO ESTABLISH UNIQUE GUIDELINES THAT GUIDE THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS CASINO AND RESORT DISTRICT, AND ALSO THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A MINIMUM SIZE FOR THIS DISTRICT AS WELL. THE 75 ACRES ARE JUST ENSURING THAT NO ONE CAN REQUEST AN IRC DISTRICT ANYWHERE IN THE CITY. 
          THEY HAVE TO AT LEAST HAVE THAT SIZE, THAT DENSITY, TO MEET THIS REQUIREMENT. TO HAVE THIS DISTRICT REQUESTED. YOU ALSO SEE THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT USE REGULATIONS IN THIS DISTRICT AS WELL. OF COURSE, THE PRIMARY LAND USE FOR THIS IS THE CASINO GAMING ESTABLISHMENT AND ITS ACCESSORY USES. BUT THERE ARE SOME OTHER USES ALLOWED BY. RIGHT. AND YOU SEE THOSE LISTED IN YOUR OWN ORDINANCE THAT YOU HAVE IN THE PACKET, MEDICAL, DINING, GROCERY USES. ANYTHING THAT'S NOT LISTED YOU'LL SEE LATER IN THE CODE IS ALLOWED THROUGH A SPECIAL USE PERMIT. SO THAT WILL HAVE TO COME BEFORE YOU ALL AS A PLANNING COMMISSION AND COUNCIL AS WELL. WE ALSO HAVE HEIGHT, AREA DENSITY AND BULK REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE ESTABLISHED IN THE ZONING DISTRICT. HEIGHT LIMITATIONS VARY BASED ON LAND USE. FOR EXAMPLE, YOU'LL SEE PARKING DECKS CAN GO ONLY UP TO EIGHT STORIES, BUT YOU'LL HAVE OTHER DEVELOPMENT THAT CAN GO SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER, UP TO 30 STORIES. AND THEN ANYTHING THAT'S NOT A HOTEL, MOTEL, OFFICE OR RESIDENTIAL IS LIMITED TO A SMALLER HEIGHT. WE DON'T HAVE THAT MUCH IN TERMS OF MINIMUM AND MAXIMUM LOT WIDTH, LOT FRONTAGE, LOT AREAS, WHICH ALLOWS, YOU KNOW, SUPPORTS A DIVERSE ARRAY OF DEVELOPMENT IN THE CASINO DISTRICT, SIGNAGE. THE CASINO CORPORATION CORDISH HAS ASKED FOR FLEXIBILITY IN THEIR SIGNAGE. SO THEY HAVE BEEN GRANTED THAT THROUGH THIS. SO ANY SIGNAGE ASSOCIATED WITH THE CASINO ITSELF IS GRANTED A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY IN WHAT THEY CAN DO, BUT WHAT THEY ARE REQUIRED TO DO IS THEY ARE REQUIRED TO COME TO THE CITY FOR PERMITS ONCE THEY'RE READY TO PUT THOSE SIGNS. SO IT DOES GIVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY AT LEAST TO PUT EYES ON SIGNAGE AND THEN FOR ANY USE NOT DIRECTLY ASSOCIATED WITH THE CASINO THAT WILL BE SUBJECT TO OUR SIGN ORDINANCE. PARKING FLEXIBILITY STAFF SUPPORTS THAT. THERE ISN'T A PARKING MINIMUM REQUIRED, ONLY THE PARKING THAT'S REQUIRED BY THE DEVELOPMENT BE THERE, BUT THERE IS INFORMATION IN THERE THAT ENSURES THERE'S LANDSCAPING, TREES PLANTED AND SO FORTH TO REDUCE THE IMPACT OF THE SURFACE PARKING NOISE. YOU CAN SEE HERE THE NOISE REGULATIONS. THESE ARE SEPARATE FROM OUR EXISTING NOISE ORDINANCE. THESE WILL BE SPECIFIC FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT. 85DB DURING THE DAYTIME HOURS AND 72DB DURING THE NIGHTTIME HOURS. AND THAT'S MEASURED FROM THE ADJOINING RESIDENTIAL LAND USE. EXTERIOR LIGHTING A LOT OF THIS COMPLIES WITH THE STATE AND FEDERAL REQUIREMENTS FOR LIGHTING, AND WE MADE SURE THAT THERE IS NO SPILLOVER FROM THE LIGHTING ONTO THE ADJOINING PROPERTIES. BUFFER REGULATIONS. 
          WE WANTED TO ENSURE THAT THERE'S AT LEAST SOME SORT OF LANDSCAPE BUFFER SCREENING REQUIRED ADJACENT TO PROPERTIES OUTSIDE OF THIS DISTRICT. SO YOU'LL SEE THAT IN YOUR DISTRICT REQUIREMENTS AS WELL, THAT 15 FOOT BUFFER REQUIREMENT, PUBLIC OPEN SPACE REGULATIONS ARE ALSO OUTLINED. AT LEAST 5% OF THE TOTAL DEVELOPMENT AREA NEEDS TO BE DESIGNATED TO ACTIVE, USABLE OPEN SPACE. AND THEN STREET REGULATIONS. WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN THIS PROJECT IS DEVELOPED, AT LEAST THEIR SIDEWALK REQUIREMENTS AND PLANTING AND STREET FURNITURE REQUIREMENTS AS WELL IN THE PROJECT. SO ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENTS YOU'LL SEE NEAR THE 
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END OF THE ZONING DISTRICT ARE REALLY FOCUSED ON THE ARCHITECTURAL TREATMENTS OF THE PROJECT. WHAT MATERIALS THEY CAN USE ALSO TALKS ABOUT SCREENING FOR WASTE RECEPTACLES AND TALKS ABOUT THE TEMPORARY CASINO ESTABLISHMENT. SO THERE WILL BE A TEMPORARY CASINO CONSTRUCTED FIRST ON THIS SITE THAT IS ALLOWED TO OPERATE WITHOUT BEING SUBJECT TO ALL THESE REQUIREMENTS, BUT IS SUBJECT TO SOME TEMPORARY IMPROVEMENTS THAT WOULD BE SUBJECT TO MAYBE SOME TEMPORARY LANDSCAPING, SOME TEMPORARY LIGHTING, AND SO FORTH TO ENHANCE THE LOOK OF THAT TEMPORARY CASINO AND SPECIAL USES, AS I MENTIONED, FOR THE USES THAT ARE NOT LISTED IN THE DISTRICT, THERE IS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE APPLICANT TO COME BACK BEFORE PLANNING COMMISSION AND COUNCIL AND REQUEST A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR CONSIDERATION. SO COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CONSIDERATIONS WE HAVE OUTLINED HERE. ENTERTAINMENT USES ARE SUPPORTED IN OUR CODE. 
          THE CITY SHOULD GIVE CAREFUL CONSIDERATION TO TARGETING PARTICULAR INITIATIVES WITH THE GOAL BUILDING, ENHANCING OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ECOSYSTEM AND IDENTIFY OPPORTUNITIES IN PRIORITY AREAS. SO REALLY WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS SENSE OF TOURISM, THE SENSE OF DEVELOPMENT AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AS BEING GENERALLY SUPPORTED IN OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. SO HERE YOU CAN SEE THE OPTIONS FOR RECOMMENDATIONS OF COURSE APPROVAL AS DRAFTED APPROVAL WITH CHANGES DENIAL OF THE TEXT AMENDMENT. AND WANTED TO KNOW FOR THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION. YOU CAN SEE THAT IN THE STAFF REPORT. DO LET US KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AND I WILL INVITE THE APPLICANT UP TO SPEAK NEXT. OKAY. THANK YOU, MISS MARK X MARK. ROB. GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR. MR. VICE CHAIR, COUNCIL MEMBERS. 
          CHAIRMAN. FORD, PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBERS. MY NAME IS MARK STUART. I'M THE GENERAL COUNSEL OF THE CORDISH COMPANIES. WITH ME IS ROB NORTON, THE PRESIDENT OF CORDISH GAMING. AND WE THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE BEFORE YOU TONIGHT. WE'D ALSO LIKE TO EXTEND OUR THANKS TO THE CITY MANAGER AND THE CITY SOLICITOR AND THE CITY STAFF FOR ALL OF THEIR WORK AND THE HARD WORK THAT'S BEEN PUT IN THROUGH THIS PROCESS. WE'RE EXCITED TO BE HERE. WE'RE EXCITED TO BE IN PETERSBURG. WE'RE EXCITED TO BE IN THIS ROOM WHERE EVERYONE CELEBRATED THE PASSAGE OF THE REFERENDUM. AND WE'RE PARTICULARLY EXCITED TO BE MOVING ONE STEP CLOSER, HOPEFULLY WITH YOUR FAVORABLE CONSIDERATION TONIGHT TO MAKING THAT THE PEOPLE'S VOTE A REALITY. WE HAVE, I BELIEVE YOU HAVE IN YOUR PACKET. OUR VISION FOR THE SITE, AND YOU HAVE SOME RENDERINGS IN THE CITY. THE STAFF REPORT OF THE GREAT DESIGNS THAT WE HAVE PLANNED. IN TERMS OF PHASE ONE, WHICH IS THE TEMPORARY CASINO THAT WAS MENTIONED. WE'RE WELL UNDERWAY. PLANS FOR CIVIL WORK THAT WERE SUBMITTED EARLIER THIS MONTH. WE HAVE SUBMITTED APPLICATIONS FOR BUILDING PERMITS, AND WE ARE SCHEDULING A GROUNDBREAKING FOR LATER IN MARCH. IN TERMS OF THE PHASE TWO CASINO, HOTEL, ENTERTAINMENT CENTER, EVENT CENTER. ALL OF THAT IS WE'RE DEEP IN DESIGN ON ALL OF THAT, AND WE'RE WORKING HARD ON IT EVERY WEEK. AND WE ARE ALREADY LOOKING AT OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE NON-GAMING DEVELOPMENT IN THE SUBSEQUENT PHASES OF THE OF THE PROPOSAL AND THE PROJECT, AS I MENTIONED. WE'VE SEEN THE GENERAL VISION THAT WE HAVE FOR IT AND THE WORLD CLASS DESIGNS THAT WE HAVE PLANNED. THE CORDISH COMPANIES HAS BEEN IN BUSINESS FOR OVER 114 YEARS. AND DOING TRANSFORMATIVE PROJECTS IS IN OUR DNA. WE'RE VERY EXCITED TO GET STARTED HERE. WE ASK YOUR FAVORABLE CONSIDERATION OF THE ORDINANCE AS DRAFTED. AND WE COLLECTIVELY LOOK FORWARD TO MOVING CLOSER TO MAKING IT THE PROJECT A REALITY. AND WITH THAT, WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. NEXT WE'LL OPEN UP THE FLOOR FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE ORDINANCE AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PETERSBURG PERTAINING TO CREATION AND REGULATION OF A NEW ZONING DISTRICT ENTITLED THE IRC, ENTERTAINMENT AND RESORT CASINO DISTRICT. MISS RUDOLPH. THANK YOU. MAYOR BARB RUDOLPH, 1675 MOUNT VERNON STREET. FIRST, A SUGGESTION ABOUT THE CONTENT OF THE OF WHAT MISS SIODMAK TALKED ABOUT. SHE HAD A ONE OF THE EARLIER SLIDES, HAD A SECTION ON THERE CALLED USE REGULATION, AND IT LISTED A 
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WHOLE BUNCH OF DIFFERENT CATEGORIES. IT FELT TO ME LIKE MAYBE LODGING WAS OMITTED FROM THAT BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT OTHER IF YOU LOOK AT IT, I THINK LODGING PROBABLY WOULD FIT ON THAT LIST, AND I DIDN'T SEE IT THERE EITHER TONIGHT OR WHEN I LOOKED AT IT EARLIER. ALSO, WHAT ELSE DID I HAVE? OH YEAH. AND I KIND OF RELUCTANT TO BRING THIS UP, BUT THE NOISE REGULATION OR THE NOISE LIMITATIONS THAT ARE IN THERE, BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE THE OVERALL THE CITY'S HAD A, YOU KNOW, HAD SOME CHALLENGES RECENTLY IN TRYING TO DEFINE A NOISE REGULATION AND, AND WHO IT SHOULD APPLY TO AND WHAT AND WHAT THE DECIBEL LEVEL SHOULD BE AT DIFFERENT TIMES OF THE DAY. 
          SO I JUST AM WONDERING, IS THAT CONSISTENT OR IF IT'S NOT, IF THAT'S A PROBLEM, TO HAVE AN EXCEPTION BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE PRE EARLIER DISCUSSIONS WERE ABOUT OTHER EXCEPTIONS. YOU KNOW SPECIFICALLY DATA CENTERS. ALSO LOOKING AT AND MR. STEWART ALLUDED TO THIS IN TALKING ABOUT CORDELIA'S PRESENTATION WHICH IS IN THE PACKAGE BUT WASN'T SHOWN ANYWHERE. HERE IS IT WAS INTERESTING TO ME TO LOOK AT IT. BECAUSE THE ACTUAL SITE PLAN OR THE PLAN USE DRAWING THAT SHOWS ALL OF THE DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE FACILITY. ON THAT 92 ACRES, IT'S QUITE DIFFERENT NOW. OR WHAT WAS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT NOW THAN WHAT THEN, WHAT WE WERE BEING SHOWN STARTING BACK IN 2022 AND WORKING WORKING THROUGH ALL OF 2024 AND THE APPROVAL OF THE REFERENDUM. SO I'M JUST I'M CURIOUS ABOUT THE REASONS FOR THE CHANGE. AND ALSO, I'D LIKE TO SEE THE SITE PLAN PROJECTED AND SEE WHERE THE INTERIM OR TEMPORARY CASINO IS GOING TO BE, BECAUSE I COULDN'T TELL THAT FROM THAT, FROM THE CURRENT DRAWING, YOU KNOW, AND THE EARLIER DRAWING, IT'S VERY CLEAR WHERE THE INTERIM CASINO WAS GOING TO WAS GOING TO BE. A PARTICULAR BUILDING THAT WOULD LATER BE CONVERTED INTO THE EVENT CENTER. BUT NOW I THINK THE PLAN IS DIFFERENT, AND IT'S TRULY GOING TO BE TEMPORARY AND NOT BE PART OF THE OVERALL CONTINUING STRUCTURE THAT'S BEING BUILT IN PHASE ONE AND TWO. SO IT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO SEE WHERE WHERE THE INTERIM CASINO GOES ON THAT PROPERTY. I DON'T IF IT'S ON THERE, I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT BEING ABLE TO DISCERN THAT. AND THEN GOING BACK TO THE ACTUAL PACKAGE THAT WAS IN THE AGENDA, I THOUGHT THERE WERE QUITE A FEW REFERENCES ABOUT THE PLANNING. THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT WANTING THERE TO BE AN ADDITION IN THE TEXT THAT WOULD INCLUDE SOMETHING ABOUT REQUIRING A MANAGEMENT PLAN OR A MANAGEMENT SITE PLAN. I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT IT WAS NOW. THAT DIDN'T SEEM TO MAKE THE CUT FOR TALKING ABOUT IT TONIGHT, BUT IT WAS IMPORTANT IN THERE, SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT WAS ABOUT, BUT IT SAID THAT THERE WAS THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT WANTED TO MAKE THIS REQUIREMENT, AND THEY WROTE IT UP THAT WAY, AND THEN THEY WERE TOLD TO OMIT IT, AND NOW THEY WANT IT BACK IN THERE. THAT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING. SO I'M I'M KIND OF WONDERING WHY IT WAS TAKEN OUT IF IT'S IMPORTANT TO THEM. OKAY. YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I'M IN FAVOR OF THIS OF APPROVING THIS NEW ZONING CATEGORY, BUT I DO THINK THERE'S SOME I HOPE THAT SOME OF THE UNANSWERED QUESTIONS CAN BE ADDRESSED. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT. YES. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. CHERYL BROWN, 1860 WESTOVER AVENUE. I'M JUST VERY, VERY, VERY CONCERNED ABOUT SOMETHING THAT WAS MISSING. I MEAN, THAT WAS MENTIONED AND THAT'S ABOUT THE FLEXIBILITY OF SIGNAGE. AND I WANT TO BEG THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER, JUST REMEMBER TO DISSUADE THE FRAY. 
          AND A FRAY IS WHEN YOU HAVE A LITTLE NICK ON YOUR SWEATER AND YOU PULL THE STRING AND IT JUST SLOWLY UNRAVELS. I THINK I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL IN COUNCILMAN JONES OF MY CONCERN, JUST IN PASSING, THAT A LOT OF COMPANIES ARE ON THE PERIMETER OF PETERSBURG. THEY'RE ON THE FRINGE, AND I NOTICED THE SIGNAGE SLOWLY DISENGAGES FROM PETERSBURG AND CHANGES TO OTHER MUNICIPAL MUNICIPALITIES. SO I WOULD LIKE IT TO BE IN THE ORDINANCE THAT IT MUST SAY PETERSBURG PROPER, NOT ENTERING ANY OTHER PERIMETER MUNICIPALITY, IF THAT MAKES SENSE TO YOU. BECAUSE THE FRAY OF PETERSBURG IS SLOWLY BEING UNRAVELED, WITH COMPANIES SAYING THAT THEIR SIGNAGE LEADS TO OUR NEIGHBORS, AND OUR NEIGHBORS ARE OUR ALLIES. YOU KNOW, WE APPRECIATE HOPEWELL AND PRINCE GEORGE, BUT I'M JUST VERY 
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CONCERNED THAT WE ARE ALLOWING PEOPLE TO STEAL OUR BRAND, IF THAT MAKES SENSE TO YOU. SO IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE JUST MAKE SURE WHEN YOU PUT YOUR SIGNAGE ON THE CASINO, IT ALWAYS SAYS PETERSBURG PROPER AND NOT ANY OTHER SURROUNDING MUNICIPALITY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. 
          YES. IN THE BACK. YES. THANK. I JUST WANT TO SAY HOW EVERYBODY DOING. SO THIS IS MY FIRST TIME HERE. THAT'S FINE. YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. AND I APPROVE FOR WHAT THEY ARE DOING. COULD YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS? JUST FOR THE RECORD, ROBIN STEWART. 38 SOUTH CHURCH STREET. THANK YOU, AND I APPROVE ALREADY REPRESENTING SO PETERSBURG DO NEED THE JOB. AND JUST LIKE SHE SAID, THIS IS FOR PETERSBURG AND PETERSBURG ONLY. AND THEY CAN COME AND GAMBLE. WE DON'T CARE ABOUT THAT. BUT WHATEVER GENERATES FROM THEM IS, IS, IS FOR THE PEOPLE OF PETERSBURG. AND I JUST WANT Y'ALL TO LET WHATEVER THEY ASKING FOR TO GO THROUGH. SO THE PEOPLE OF PETERSBURG CAN GET A JOB BECAUSE WE DO NEED THE JOB SINCE WE LEFT. I REMEMBER EVER SINCE I WAS LIKE 8 OR 9 YEARS OLD, AND I THINK THEY'VE BEEN GONE FOR ABOUT FIVE DECADES, AND WE'VE BEEN DOWN FOR FIVE DECADES. AIN'T NO USE THAT. WE ARE WORKING HARD TO GET BACK UP, TO STAY AT THE BOTTOM. IT'S TIME FOR PETERSBURG TO RISE AND GET ON TOP. AND PETERSBURG WILL BE TURNED UPSIDE DOWN, AND I'M HOPING IT BE FOR THE BETTER, BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO BE JUST LIKE NEW YORK AND NEW JERSEY WHEN THIS CASINO COME. AND I'M NOT ONLY UP HERE FOR THE CASINO, I'M UP HERE FOR OUR. POLICEMEN'S. THEY'RE GOING TO BE WORKING DOUBLE TIME. Y'ALL NEED TO DOUBLE THEIR PAY. Y'ALL THINK ABOUT THAT. DOUBLE THEIR PAY BECAUSE THEY GOING TO BE WORKING OVERTIME TO KEEP THIS CITY STRAIGHT. AND THEY THEIR LIVES GOING TO BE IN DANGER OR WHATEVER, MOST LIKELY WHATEVER. BUT JUST IT'S TIME FOR THEM TO GET PAID FOR THEIR SERVICE. IT'S TIME. AND Y'ALL THINK ABOUT THAT. THINK ABOUT THAT TOO. AND Y'ALL CAN HIRE SOME OF THE POLE, YOU KNOW, TO DO GOD WORK OR WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, SO THEY CAN MAKE THEIR MONEY. I'M HERE NOT ONLY FOR MY PEOPLE. I'M HERE FOR THEIR MY THERE ARE PEOPLE TOO. AND THEY THEIR JOB IS TO PROTECT US. AND THE ONLY WAY THAT WE'LL BE PROTECTED, IF Y'ALL PAY THEM GOOD, THEY'LL MAKE THEM WANT TO WORK MORE, BETTER. SO PAY THEM GOOD. ALRIGHT. AND IF YOU GO ON FACEBOOK AND THE ROBINETTE STEWART I TELL YOU ON FACEBOOK HOW Y'ALL CAN SPEND THAT MONEY INSTEAD OF GIVING IT AWAY. GIVE IT BACK TO PETERSBURG AND WE CAN PUT IT BACK INTO THE CITY. GIVE US A CHECK ONCE A YEAR. ALRIGHT, WE ARE LOVE. $15,000 ONCE A YEAR. YEAH. THANK YOU. NONE OF THAT. BUT PEOPLE AT. YES. THANK YOU. OVER HERE. GET THEM READY. THANK YOU. GET HIM WITH THE ACTION. YES. CONTINUE WITH THE. 
          WE GOT THAT RIGHT. YEAH. OKAY. YEAH. OKAY. SO NO OTHER HANDS. THIS PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED. NEXT, I'LL GO TO THE. OH, WE HAVE ONE MORE. ONE MORE HAND. YES. THANKS. I HAVE ONE, ONE. AND I'LL JUST MAKE ONE NOTE THAT AFTER THIS PUBLIC COMMENT, IF THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO COME BACK UP TO SPEAK, TO ADDRESS THOSE. OKAY. WE DO THAT FOR PLANNING COMMISSION BYLAWS. 
          THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING, SANDRA MASON. I'M KIND OF NEW TO THE CITY. I'M RETIRED. 
          FAYETTE. BUT I DID NOT VOTE FOR YOUR ADDRESS. PLEASE. I'M SORRY. 120 PERRY STREET ARTIST SPACE. 
          THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND I DIDN'T VOTE FOR THE CASINO BECAUSE I'M. I'M ALL IN FAVOR OF JOBS, BUT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE CITY, THE RENEWABLE ENERGY, THE IMAGE OF THE CITY, THE PICKING UP THE COMMUNITY, HOW IT LOOKS. AND I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE NOISE ORDINANCE AND THE DECIBELS. WHAT IS THAT EQUIVALENT TO? AND THE JOBS AND THE EXTRA STRESS THAT IT CAN PUT 
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ON THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. IN ADDITION TO THAT, AND HOW IT COULD THE STATE OF THE UNION AS IT IS NOW REGARDING THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, THE JOBS THAT ARE LOST AND HOW IT COULD PUT THE STATE AFFECT ON THE MENTAL HEALTH OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE GAMBLING AND COULD HAVE A GAMBLING PROBLEM, IN ADDITION TO PAYING THEIR RENT, PAYING THEIR HOUSE NOTE ON TOP OF THAT. SO THAT'S JUST SOMETHING I WANT TO JUST WANT TO BRING IN CONSIDERATION HOW THE MONEY COULD BE ALLOCATED. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY, OKAY. SEEING NO OTHER HANDS, THIS PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED. MARK, YOU WANT TO COME? COME BACK UP. ROB. YES. WHOA! THAT WAS A SHOCK ON THE MICROPHONE. SORRY. GOOD. GOOD EVENING, GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS ROB NORTON. 
          I'M THE PRESIDENT OF CORDISH GAMING. AND I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND TO THE QUESTIONS OF THE OF THE COMMUNITY RAISED. IT WAS IT'S A NICE IT'S A NICE CHANGE TO BE UP HERE WITH, WITH ALL THE POSITIVE SUPPORT FROM THE VERY, VERY FIRST TIME THAT WE WERE HERE. SO I APPRECIATE THAT. FIRST QUESTION WAS WHY DID THE SITE SITE PLAN CHANGE VERY QUICKLY AS WE STARTED TO GO THROUGH THE ACTUAL SITE DEVELOPMENT AND START PUTTING DOING SOIL TESTING, LOOKING AT WHERE THE WETLANDS WERE, WE STARTED TO ACTUALLY PUT REAL PEN TO PAPER ON HARD PLANS. YOU KNOW, WE STARTED TO ADJUST THINGS AROUND BASED ON WHAT WE WERE LEARNING. 
          AND SO WHAT WE DID. WAS MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF THE MAIN ELEMENTS THAT WE HAD PRESENTED ORIGINALLY WERE STILL THERE, BUT WE JUST SHIFTED THE DECKS AROUND TO MAKE THE SITE WORK BETTER. AS WE WERE LEARNING MORE ABOUT THE SPECIFICS ABOUT THE SITE. SO THERE'S NOTHING THERE'S NOTHING THAT'S IN THIS PLAN THAT WASN'T PART OF THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN. IT'S ALL THERE. IT'S JUST REORGANIZED. WHERE'S THE TEMPORARY CASINO GOING AGAIN? YOU'RE RIGHT. VERY ASTUTE THAT WE ORIGINALLY HAD IT ADJACENT TO THE FACILITY, THINKING THAT WE'D BE ABLE TO REUSE THE TEMPORARY FACILITY IN THE PERMANENT FACILITY. TWO THINGS CHANGED. ONE, WE'VE ELEVATED WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BUILD. AND THE TEMPORARY STRUCTURE WE DON'T THINK IS A GOOD PERMANENT STRUCTURE BUILDING. AND SO WE BROUGHT IT OUTSIDE OF THE DEVELOPMENT SO THAT WE COULD DO THE TEMPORARY QUICKER, FASTER, GET IT OPEN, CREATING JOBS AND REVENUE SOONER AND ALLOWING THE PERMANENT TO BE BUILT WITHOUT THAT ENCUMBRANCE OF, OF WHATEVER THE TEMPORARY WOULD HAVE REQUIRED US TO BUILD AROUND. SO IT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO BE FURTHER SOUTH ON THE SITE THAN WHERE THE CASINO IS SHOWING NOW. WOULD LIKE US TO HIRE THE POLICE. WE'RE WAY AHEAD OF YOU. 
          WE'RE ALREADY MEETING WITH THE CHIEF AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND IT'S VERY COMMON WITHIN ALL OF OUR OPERATING CASINOS THAT WE HIRE OFF DUTY POLICE OFFICERS TO HELP US ON PEAK TIMES, AND WE EXPECT THAT WE WOULD DO NOTHING DIFFERENT HERE. SO IF THERE'S ANY PARTICULAR QUESTION THAT I SKIPPED THAT YOU'D LIKE ME TO ANSWER, I'M HAPPY TO DO SO. OTHERWISE, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT. YES. MISS MCDANIEL? YES. SHE WANTED TO KNOW WHERE. MICROPHONE. THE TEMPORARY TWO WANT TO KNOW WHERE THE TEMPORARY IS. HE POINTED OUT ON THE SITE MAP. I DIDN'T SEE A SITE MAP UP THERE ANYWHERE SO I COULD. MR. MAYOR. WHAT? SO WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST IS THAT IT THAT THAT PRESENTATION IS PART OF THE REZONING APPLICATION. SO IT MIGHT BE A BETTER THAT'LL BE UP THEN. AND IT WOULD BE BETTER TO TALK ABOUT THE CHANGE IN THE PLAN AND WHERE THE TEMPORARY IS, BECAUSE THAT WILL BE PART OF THE REZONING PORTION. THIS IS JUST THE TEXT AMENDMENT. SO IT MIGHT BE A BETTER TOPIC OF DISCUSSION FOR THE NEXT CASE. PERFECT. 
          THANK YOU. AND SPECIFICALLY ON THE SIGNAGE SINCE I WAS ASKED TO ADDRESS THAT, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE REQUESTS IN THE CONVERSATION ABOUT THE SIGNAGE AND THE REASON FOR, YOU KNOW, HAVING THE ABILITY TO HAVE DIFFERENT TYPES OF SIGNAGE ON THIS AS WE'RE DOING ITEMS, CASINOS AND OTHER PARTS OF THE PROJECT THAT ARE NOT PRESENT ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE IN THE CITY. AND SO WE NEEDED FLEXIBILITY. WE WILL NEED FLEXIBILITY TO PRESENT THOSE PROJECTS. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A TOWER THAT'S VERY TALL. WE'RE GOING TO NEED THE APPROPRIATE SIZE TO BE ABLE TO BE SEEN DOWN 95, SO ON AND SO FORTH. AND AS WE WORK OUR WAY THROUGH THAT, HAPPY TO COME BACK AS, AS SUGGESTED TO SHOW THE SIGNAGE PLANS. BUT WE WILL NEED WE WILL NEED DIFFERENT SIGNAGE THAN WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO FIND AT YOUR TYPICAL AREA BUSINESS. ALL RIGHT. NEXT WE GO ON TO QUESTIONS FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION. NONE HERE. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS 
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HERE? OKAY. JUST. OKAY. MR. OPEN. WELL, DO YOU HAVE ONE CLARIFICATION? LOOKING THROUGH THE ORDINANCE, THERE'S ONE ITEM THAT WE HAD IN, AND WE AGREED THAT BASED ON THE SIZE OF SOME OF THE DEVELOPMENT THAT WE WOULD REMOVE IN DISCUSSIONS TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL FLEXIBILITY, WHICH IS IN SECTION FOUR UNDER THE HEIGHTS AREA AND BULK REGULATIONS. NUMBER TWO, THERE'S THREE, WHICH IS A SETBACKS AND SETBACKS. WE HAD AGREED IN CONVERSATION WITH CORDISH TO REMOVE THAT SECTION THAT ONE SENTENCE MAKING SEE REMOVING SEE. SO LETTER D WOULD BECOME C. 
          SO IF WE WHEN WE MAKE THE APPROVAL IF WE COULD MAKE IF THE IF THE MOTION IS TO APPROVE, I WOULD SUGGEST AS AMENDED AS WOULD REMOVING THAT ONE SECTION. WE DID TALK ABOUT THAT. AND I THINK JUST ONE THING I THINK IS IMPORTANT HERE OVERALL IS THE CONVERSATION, THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'VE HAD OVER THE MONTHS AND REALLY YEAR ABOUT QUALITY OF DEVELOPMENT. AND COUNCIL HASN'T HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE THAT DEVELOPMENT AND SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT HAVE THEY HAVE DEVELOPED ACROSS THE COUNTRY. IT IS KEY TO PROVIDING THEM THAT FLEXIBILITY, BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE MARKET IS GOING TO SHOW AND BEAR FOR, FOR THEM. OVER THE OVER, THE TERM PIECES WILL BE MOVED AROUND. THERE MAY BE SOMETHING TODAY THAT WE THEY INDICATE THAT MAYBE RESIDENTIAL, BUT MARK A DIFFERENT CHANGE IN THE MARKET. IT MAY TURN TO OFFICE AND WE DON'T WANT TO TIE THEM DOWN THAT THEY HAVE TO COME BACK EVERY TIME THEY WANT TO HAVE THAT, THAT MAKE A CHANGE TO THAT. SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT HAVING THAT FLEXIBILITY. WITH REGARD TO THE QUESTION THAT MRS. RUDOLPH RANDOLPH RUDOLPH REQUESTED REGARDING THE MASTER PLAN, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT FLEXIBILITY IS THERE. THEY HAVE SHOWN THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY AND REALLY AROUND THE WORLD THAT THEY DO FIRST CLASS DEVELOPMENTS, AND THEY'VE WON SEVERAL ULLI AWARDS. SO WE WANT TO PROVIDE THAT BECAUSE IT'S THE MARKET IS GOING TO CHANGE, AND THERE MAY BE SOMETHING TODAY THAT WE DON'T ANTICIPATE, AND IT'S JUST MOVING PIECES OF THE PUZZLE AROUND. I MEAN REALLY THE CHANGE BETWEEN THE ORIGINAL DESIGN AND THIS IS REALLY JUST MOVING THE PIECES AROUND. WE MOVE THE MOVE THE CASINO BACK AND THINGS FORWARD. SO YES, WE'RE WORKING TO PROVIDE THEM THAT FLEXIBILITY TO HAVE A SUCCESSFUL DEVELOPMENT, WHICH WE'RE YOU KNOW, REALLY THIS IS, AS WE SAID ALL ALONG, A PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE CORDISH COMPANIES. SO YES. AND ANOTHER BIG, BIG PIECE TO THAT, I WANT THE PUBLIC TO KNOW AS WELL THAT THAT CORDISH HAS GRACEFULLY ACCOMMODATED US ON WAS I TALKED TO THEM ABOUT WE SEE THE DECLINING OF THE MALL OVER THERE AND HOW WE NEED A RETAIL COMPONENT. SO THEY HAVE HAVE ACTUALLY WORKED IN SOME RETAIL. SO WE CAN HAVE SOME SHOPPING OVER HERE IN PETERSBURG. IT'S THINGS LIKE THAT THAT WE NEED TO BE FLEXIBLE WITH AS THE MARKET CONTINUES TO CHANGE, AND WE HAVE THIS DEVELOPMENT WITH ALL THESE NEW VISITORS COMING, IF WE SEE THINGS DECLINING ACROSS THE RIVER AND THERE'S REALLY NO PREMIER SHOPPING FROM HERE TO NORTH CAROLINA, WE WANT TO CAPITALIZE ON THAT IN PETERSBURG. SO IT IS A MUST THAT WE REMAIN FLEXIBLE, THAT THEY CAN THEY CAN CONTINUE TO CHANGE AS THE MARKET CHANGES TO CAPITALIZE, CREATE MORE TAX REVENUE FOR THE CITY OF PETERSBURG. OKAY, SO ONE CLARIFICATION COMMENT. AND I THINK MISS STEWART MAY BE ALLUDING TO IT, JUST SO THE PUBLIC KNOWS AND EVERYBODY KNOWS, THE BILL THAT WAS INTRODUCED THAT WOULD HAVE THE REVENUE SHARING GOING THROUGH THE REGION THAT DID NOT MAKE IT THROUGH THE OFF THE HOUSE FLOOR. 
          SO THAT BILL DIED. SO THAT IS GONE. SO JUST PUT THAT EVERYBODY IN THE CITY PUT THAT TO REST AND TAKE A DEEP BREATH. WE'RE NOT SHARING THE REVENUE. THE REVENUE THAT WILL BE GENERATED WILL BE STAYING HERE AND IMPROVING THE COMMUNITY HERE AND ONLY HERE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. YES. MISS KATZENBACH, I DO HAVE A QUESTION. I KNOW WE HAVE A B AND A C HERE. OKAY. I'M JUST CONFUSED BECAUSE I DO HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT SIGNAGE. WOULD THAT BE AN APPROPRIATE QUESTION FOR B OR SHALL I WAIT UNTIL C B B. SO THAT'S THE NOW HI I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT SIGNAGE. SO. 
          NAOMI SAID LAY EYES ON. COULD YOU PLEASE GIVE A DEFINITION TO WHAT THAT MEANS AS FAR AS SIGNAGE AND ZONING? YES. THANKS FOR THE QUESTION. SO RIGHT NOW, SINCE THEY'RE EXEMPT FROM THE SIGN ORDINANCE FOR THE CASINO USE, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THEY AT LEAST CAME BEFORE STAFF FOR A PERMIT. SO WE HAD A CHANCE TO AT LEAST SEE WHAT THEIR THEY'RE COMING UP WITH. SO OUR REVIEW IN THAT SITUATION THOUGH WOULD BE LIMITED TO ENSURING THE SIGNAGE IS MEETING THE SAFETY OF THE PUBLIC AND THE COMMUNITY. SO WE'D BE JUST TAKING A SIMPLE REVIEW, MAKING SURE SIGNAGE ISN'T A NEGATIVE IMPACT TO THE HEALTH AND SAFETY OF PETERSBURG. THANK YOU. SO WOULD THAT COME BEFORE? WHAT CAN YOU IDENTIFY THE PROCESS? AND IF WE DID NOT AGREE THAT THAT SIGNAGE WAS 
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APPROPRIATE FOR OUR CITY'S IMAGE AND FOR THE LIGHTING ORDINANCES AND ALL OF THAT, WHAT WOULD THEN FOLLOW? OKAY, SO IF YOU ADOPT THE ORDINANCE AS IT IS NOW, THE PROCESS WOULD BE THAT WHEN THE APPLICANT COMES FORWARD TO DEVELOP SIGNAGE, THEY WOULD STILL SUBMIT A SIGN PERMIT LIKE ANY OTHER APPLICANT WOULD. STAFF WOULD STILL TAKE THE SIGN PERMIT FEE FOR THAT APPLICATION, BUT OUR REVIEW WOULD BE SUBJECT TO NOT LOOKING AT THE SIGN LIMITATIONS THAT ARE IN THE EXISTING ORDINANCE IN TERMS OF HEIGHT AND AREA OR LIGHTING. IT WOULD BE LIMITED TO, AGAIN, THE HEALTH AND SAFETY OF THE PUBLIC. THAT WOULD BE THE EXTENT OF OUR REVIEW. OKAY, SO WE'VE NEVER HAD ANYTHING LIKE THIS IN THE AREA. SO OF COURSE THE SIGNAGE WOULD BE UNIQUE. MY CONCERN IS THAT THE SIGNAGE WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT THE CITY WOULD WANT REPRESENTATIVE OF OUR AREA. SO I WOULD LIKE AN OPPORTUNITY AND THE IDEAL WORLD THAT THAT SIGNAGE COMES BEFORE THE COMMITTEE AND BEFORE COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL, RATHER THAN CORDISH PRESENTING THEIR DREAM SIGN. AND WE NOT HAVING AN OPTION FOR REVIEW AND APPROVAL. YOU CAN CERTAINLY MAKE A MOTION WHEN YOU MAKE YOUR MOTION TO AMEND THAT. ANY SIGNS THAT ARE COMING FORWARD, OR ANY SIGN PLAN WOULD HAVE TO COME BEFORE YOU ALL FOR APPROVAL. THANK YOU FOR THAT EXPLANATION, I APPRECIATE IT. 
          ALL RIGHT. SO WE AT THIS TIME, WE'LL WAIT ON THE PLAN PLANNING COMMISSION FOR THEIR MOTION. 
          COMMISSIONERS, CAN I HAVE A MOTION ON THIS PUBLIC HEARING ORDINANCE AMENDING ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PETERSBURG? TO APPROVAL OF THE. TEXT ME WITH THE CHANGES. AGAIN, PLEASE. JUST READ THAT SECOND. OKAY. SECOND, MAKE A MOTION THAT WE DO APPROVE THE TEXT AMENDMENT WITH CHANGES SO THAT THE ORGANIZATION NEEDS TO COME BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND COUNCIL FOR FINAL APPROVAL OF SIGNAGE. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. 
          SO IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECOND. CAN YOU CALL THE ROLL? I MAY CALL NAMES OF PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT HERE. SO PLEASE FORGIVE ME, COMMISSIONER REINHARDT. COMMISSIONER. KATZENBACH. HI. 
          COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. COMMISSIONER HARRISON. COMMISSIONER. CANNON. HI. 
          COMMISSIONER. NORMAN I. COMMISSIONER. HARLEY. I. COMMISSIONER. BLAND. 
          COMMISSIONER. FORD. THE MOTION CARRIES. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND NEXT WE GO TO CITY COUNCIL. I JUST WANT TO THANK CORDISH. WE'VE BEEN IN THIS THING FOR THREE AND A HALF YEARS, AND IT'S JUST REALLY GREAT HAVING A COMPANY OF THIS MAGNITUDE COMING TO THE CITY OF PETERSBURG. AND BECAUSE OF THAT, I KNOW THERE'S BEEN SEVERAL DISCUSSIONS OF WHAT TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT YOU'RE GOING TO GET IN CITY COUNCIL. WE'VE ALL BEEN UP TO MARYLAND. WE'VE SOME HAVE BEEN TO PHILLY, SOME HAVE BEEN TO KANSAS CITY LIVE TO SEE WHAT TYPE OF DEVELOPMENTS THAT YOU DO. AND AS A CITY COUNCIL, WE TRUST THAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO BRING US WHAT YOU'VE DONE IN THOSE OTHER PLACES. SO AT THIS TIME, I'LL PASS THE GAVEL TO VICE MAYOR HILL, AND I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE TEXT AMENDMENT AS DRAFTED WITHOUT THE ANY OF THE RESTRICTIONS OF THE MASTER PLAN AND POINT OF ORDER, AND JUST THE ONE AMENDMENT THAT THE MANAGER HAD SUGGESTED REMOVING THE TEXT THAT HE HAD AGREED WITH WITH CORDISH. SECTION 42C RIGHT. SECTION 42C IS MY MOTION TO APPROVE THAT TEXT AMENDMENT AS DRAFTED. COUNCILMAN MYERS SO MOVED BEEN MOVED IN PROPERTY. 
          SECOND MADAM CLERK, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL COUNCIL MEMBER. CUTHBERT. COUNCIL MEMBER. JONES I COUNCIL MEMBER. MYERS. COUNCIL MEMBER. LEE. AYE. VICE MAYOR. HILL. AYE. MAYOR. 
          [5.c. Public Hearing of an Ordinance Approving a Request by PPE Casino Resorts Petersburg, LLC on  Behalf of Roslyn Farm Corporation to Rezone Property at 2949 South Crater Road and 155, 161,  and 301 Wagner Road, Parcel IDs 064020003, 064020800, 082010001, 082010802 from the PUD,  Planned Unit Development and B-2, General Commercial Districts to the ERC, Entertainment and  Resort Casino District]
PERRIN I. THAT MOTION CARRIES. ALL RIGHT. NEXT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM C, WHICH IS THE PUBLIC HEARING OF AN ORDINANCE APPROVING A REQUEST BY PPE CASINO RESORTS PETERBOROUGH, LLC ON BEHALF OF ROSSLYN FARM CORPORATION, TO REZONE PROPERTY AT 2949 SOUTH KOREA ROAD AND 155 161 AND 301 WAGNER ROAD, PARCEL. ID 0640200030640208008082010001, 082010802 FROM THE PUD PLANNED 
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UNIT DEVELOPMENT AND B2 GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT TO THE URC ENTERTAINMENT AND RESORT CASINO DISTRICT. MR. THANK YOU MAYOR. YOU'RE GOOD AT WHAT YOU DO READING ALL THAT OUT I APPRECIATE IT. ALL RIGHT. SO NOW THAT WE HAVE A CASINO ZONING DISTRICT, THAT IRC DISTRICT, THIS SHOULD BE PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. WE'RE REALLY JUST LOOKING TO CHANGE THESE PROPERTIES TO THAT NEW DISTRICT THAT WAS CREATED. SO YOU CAN SEE THE SUBJECT PROPERTIES RIGHT HERE ON THE MAP NEAR BRASFIELD PARK WAY AND THE INTERSTATE AS WELL. SO FOR THIS AGAIN, WE'RE LOOKING THAT NEW DISTRICT THAT GOT CREATED, THE ENTERTAINMENT CASINO RESORT DISTRICT, LOOKING TO CHANGE SOME OF THE EXISTING PUD ZONES. AND THAT'S THE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT AND B2 COMMERCIAL ZONES TO THIS NEW IRC ZONING DISTRICT TO SUPPORT THE CASINO GAMING ESTABLISHMENT AND ASSOCIATED USES. HERE YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE EXISTING PHOTOS FOR THE SITE. SO THE PROPOSED USE AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE OUTLINED DOCUMENTS OUTLINED INFORMATION HERE. THAT'S COMING FROM THE APPROVED AGREEMENT WITH THE WITH CORDISH AND THE CITY. SO THAT PHASE ONE, THAT TEMPORARY CASINO THAT WE TALKED ABOUT WITH THE LIMIT OF BEING UP FOR TWO YEARS, THEN THAT PHASE TWO PERMANENT CASINO WITH HOTEL AND SPA RESTAURANTS AND BARS, 35,000FT■S OF CONFERENCE CENTER AND 3000FT■S OF ENTERTAINMENT VENUE AS WELL. THERE IS A THIRD PHASE, BUT OF COURSE, THAT IS SUBJECT TO THE MARKET AND DEMANDS THAT WOULD BE LOOKING AT OPPORTUNITIES FOR RETAIL, OFFICE, MULTIFAMILY, HOUSING AND ADDITIONAL LODGING OPPORTUNITIES AS WELL. HERE IS THAT MASTER PLAN. SO THIS WILL BE HELPFUL FOR THE APPLICANT TO SHARE WHERE THE TEMPORARY CASINO IS GOING. 
          SO THAT QUESTION CAN COME BACK UP AND GET CLARIFIED HERE. AND AGAIN YOU CAN SEE THE ADJOINING ZONING. A LOT OF IT'S THE ZONING THAT WE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THAT PUD PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT, REALLY SPECIFIC TO A SPECIFIC PROJECT AND THAT COMMERCIAL ZONING, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CONSIDERATIONS. AGAIN, THIS IS IN THE MIXED USE AREA OF OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. AND THE GATEWAY KIND OF SHARED WITH YOU ALL THAT INFORMATION BEFORE THAT, WE'RE REALLY LOOKING AT OPPORTUNITIES FOR HOSPITALITY, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. AND THIS IS AN AREA THAT THAT COULD BE CONSIDERED. AGAIN YOU CAN SEE TWO THAT THERE'S SOME STRATEGIES THAT ARE LAID OUT IN THAT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ABOUT IDEAL LOCATIONS THAT CAN SUPPORT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND ENTERTAINMENT FOR THE COMMUNITY. SO RECOMMENDATIONS SIMPLY PUT, YOU CAN RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE REZONING OR DENIAL. LET ME KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. AND IF THE APPLICANT AGAIN WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, THEY'RE WELCOME TO COME UP TO SPEAK NOW AS WELL. OKAY. THANK YOU, MISS MARK. 
          NEXT. MARK. ROB. CAN WE GO BACK TO THAT SITE PLAN SHEET? I'LL LET ROB SPEAK TO THE LOCATION OF THE TEMPORARY. BUT WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION OF OUR APPLICATION. I MUST BE MY SHOES, SO IT'S HARD, A LITTLE BIT HARD TO TELL WHERE THINGS ARE. BUT USING THE REFERENCE OF THE PAROLE OFFICE, WHICH IS RIGHT HERE, THE TEMPORARY STRUCTURE WILL GO ROUGHLY RIGHT IN THIS AREA. WHICH ALLOWS US TO BUILD THE ACCESS ROAD AND THE CASINO WITHOUT INTERRUPTING BEING INTERRUPTED. WE USE THE EXISTING BRASFIELD PARKWAY TO COME IN AND OUT DURING THAT, THAT THAT PHASE. AND WE BUILD SURFACE LOTS AROUND THE TEMPORARY CASINO TO SUPPORT THE CUSTOMERS COMING IN THERE. SO HOPEFULLY THAT ANSWERS THE QUESTION ABOUT THE LOCATION PLAN FOR THE TEMPORARY. ROB, COULD YOU SHOW US WHERE THE SHEETZ IS? SURE. YEAH, YEAH. SO THE SHEETS AND THE DUNK I THINK THAT'S DUNCAN. AND THEN THAT SHEETS RIGHT THERE. SO YOU COME IN RIGHT OFF THE ROAD HERE AND YOU FOLLOW BRASFIELD. THIS THIS PORTION OF BRASFIELD EXISTS TODAY AND IT TERMINATES RIGHT ABOUT HERE IN THAT CIRCLE. AND SO WE ARE COMING. RIGHT. BASICALLY DIAGONAL RIGHT THERE. 
          AND THEN HAVE A PARKING LOT THERE AND THEN A PARKING LOT OVER HERE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU ALL. NOW WE OPEN UP THE FLOOR FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING. FOR. THE ORDINANCE APPROVING A REQUEST BY RP CASINO RESORTS ON BEHALF OF ROSLAND FARM CORPORATION TO REZONE PROPERTY AT 2949 SOUTH CRATER ROAD. 155 AND 161 AND 301 WAGNER ROAD. ALL RIGHT, MISS RUDOLPH. 
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I'M TRYING TO BE CAREFUL SO I DON'T HAVE THE SAME CONSEQUENCES AS MR. NORTON. BARB RUDOLPH, 1675 MOUNT VERNON STREET, OKAY. AND THANK YOU FOR THE ILLUSTRATION OF THE TEMPORARY CASINO. THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE THAT IT'S SO ACCESSIBLE. AND THEN YOU'VE PUSHED THE CASINO BACK INTO THE FOR FURTHER, FARTHER REACHES OF THE PROPERTY. THIS PARTICULAR PART OF THE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE REZONING BROUGHT UP TO ME TO LOOK AT THIS IS NOT I DON'T THINK THIS IS A CORDISH ISSUE. I THINK THIS IS A CITY ISSUE. THERE'S THESE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT THESE FOUR PARCELS AND IT'S IDENTIFIED IN THIS PACKAGE ABOUT THE SIZE OF EACH OF THEM, THE TOTAL BEING ABOUT 92.5 ACRES. BUT WHEN I LOOK AT THE ASSESSOR'S RECORD FOR THE CITY AND I LOOKED I RELOOKED IT AGAIN ABOUT A QUARTER AFTER FOUR. SO I THINK I'M SPEAKING OF THE CURRENT STATE OF WHAT IT SAYS IS THE ACTUAL SIZE OF THE PROPERTIES, WHICH I THINK IN, IN ACREAGE IS, IS PRETTY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT'S BEING TALKED ABOUT IN ALL THESE PACKAGES, INCLUDING THE AGREEMENT THAT WAS ENTERED INTO BY CORDISH AND THE CITY BACK IN THE END OF MAY OF 2024. 
          I'LL JUST GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE, A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES. I MEAN, THE ONLY OF THE FOUR PROPERTIES. 155 WAGNER ROAD, THAT'S CONSISTENT. COURT MATERIALS SHOW 6.22 ACRES. THAT'S THE SAME THING THAT'S IN THE ASSESSOR'S RECORDS. BUT THEN YOU START GETTING INTO SOME DIFFERENCES. 161 WAGNER ROAD, CITY RECORDS 63.35 ACRES. THE WHAT'S SHOWING IN THIS PRESENTATION IS 2026 .32 ACRES. 
          THAT'S A PRETTY BIG DIFFERENCE. THAT'S ALMOST 40 ACRES. THEN YOU GET TO 301 WAGNER ROAD. THE CITY RECORDS IS 28.36 ACRES. THE PLAN HERE TONIGHT IS 18.89 ACRES. AND THEN THE REAL THE REAL DIFFERENCE, THE REAL INTERESTING ONE TO ME IS SOUTH CARTER ROAD, 2949 SOUTH KOREA ROAD, WHICH IS THAT TOP PIECE WITH ALL THE WETLANDS IN IT. THE CITY ASSESSOR SHOWS THAT AS BEING A 4.72 ACRE PARCEL, WHEREAS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT BEING 40 OVER 41 ACRES HERE. I JUST I'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND WHY THERE'S SUCH A DIFFERENCE. NOW, WHEN YOU ADD TOGETHER THOSE ACRES FOR THE CITY CITY RECORDS, IT'S 100, A LITTLE OVER ALMOST 103 ACRES VERSUS 92.5 ACRES. SO THERE'S I MEAN, IT'S THE SAME VICINITY, BUT SOMETHING TO ME, I WOULD BE CONCERNED. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT EVER WOULD POSE A LEGAL ISSUE OR ANYTHING AFTER ALL THIS IS DONE, I REALLY DON'T KNOW. BUT. I HESITATE TO CALL IT AN IRREGULARITY. LEST ANYONE THINK I'M SAYING THERE'S SOMETHING BAD, YOU KNOW, BUT LET'S JUST SAY THERE'S SOME ANOMALIES OR ABERRATIONS HERE BETWEEN OF WHAT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT TONIGHT AND IN THE PACKAGE AND WHAT IS BEING SHOWN ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. SEEING NO OTHER HANDS, THIS PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED. NEXT, I GO TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION DISCUSSION. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? I SEE NONE. CAN I GET A MOTION? OH, HOLD MY PLAN. OKAY. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE APPROVAL OF THE REZONING CONDITION. STAFF RECOMMENDATION. APPROVAL. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND APPROVED. IT'S BEEN MOVED IN SECOND. CAN YOU CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE? YES, COMMISSIONER. KATZENBACH. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. I COMMISSIONER CANNON, I COMMISSIONER NORMAN I COMMISSIONER. HARLEY. COMMISSIONER. BLAND. 
          COMMISSIONER. FORD I THE MOTION CARRIES ALL RIGHT. NEXT. COUNCILOR MYERS. SORRY. I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE AND SUPPORT THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON THEIR ON THE ZONING DISTRICT ENTITLED THE 
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IRC ENTERTAINMENT RESORT CASINO DISTRICT. ALL RIGHT. VICE MAYOR HILL SECOND, A MOTION A SECOND, MISS HILL. MR. WILLIAMS, IT'S A MOTION A SECOND TO APPROVE THE REZONING AS PROPOSED. CORRECT. 
          ALL RIGHT, MISS HILL, CAN YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL COUNCIL MEMBER CUTHBERT I, COUNCIL MEMBER. JONES I. COUNCIL MEMBER. MYERS. COUNCIL MEMBER. LEE. AYE. VICE MAYOR. HILL. AYE. MAYOR. 
          PERRY. AYE. THE MOTION CARRIES. ALL RIGHT. ITEM SIX. ANY UNFINISHED BUSINESS? THERE'S NONE TONIGHT. ANY NEW BUSINESS TONIGHT? THERE'S NO NEW BUSINESS TONIGHT. I WANT TO THANK THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK. THANK YOU. THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, MISS SIDEWALK AND. ALSO CORDISH. THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING OUT TODAY. AND WE'RE READY TO GET ROLLING. ALL RIGHT. NEXT. THIS IS EIGHT ADJOURNMENT. ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT. NEXT I'LL LET THE PLANNING COMMISSION ADJOURN FIRST. CAN I GET A MOTION TO ADJOURN? SO MOVED. IT'S BEEN MOVED. THEREFORE, I CALL THE PLANNING COMMISSION. FEBRUARY 25TH. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. 
          NEXT, VICE MAYOR HILL, MOVE THAT. WE ADJOURN. SECOND, COUNCILMAN MYERS. ALL RIGHT, ALL IN FAVOR? THIS MEANS. ADJOURNED. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. AL
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