MOTION CARRIES. ALL RIGHT. THAT CONCLUDES OUR CLOSED SESSION. AND WE ROLL RIGHT ON INTO OUR 
          [00:00:05]
REGULAR SCHEDULED CITY COUNCIL MEETING FOR JUNE 17TH, 2025. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. AT THIS 
          [1. Roll Call]
TIME IS HILL. WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. CUTHBERT. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER JONES. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER. MYERS HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER. WESTBROOK. COUNCIL MEMBER. SMITH. LEE. AYE. VICE MAYOR. HILL. MAYOR. PAM. AYE, SIR. YOU HAVE A QUORUM. ALL RIGHT. AT THIS TIME, COUNCILMAN SMITH LEE WILL LEAD US IN THE OPENING PRAYER. LET US BOW OUR HEADS, PLEASE. DEAR LORD, GRANT US THE COURAGE TO WALK IN FAITH TODAY, EVEN WHEN WE MAY NOT FACE, EVEN WHEN WE MAY BE FACED WITH TRIALS AND TRIBULATIONS AND CHALLENGES. GUIDE OUR PATH TODAY AND MORE SPECIFICALLY, OUR THOUGHTS AND WORDS AND ACTIONS. PLEASE BE WITH US THROUGHOUT THE DAY TO HELP US NAVIGATE WHATEVER COMES OUR WAY. HELP US TO REFLECT AND LIVE OUT OUR LIVES IN A WAY THAT WE ARE HONORING EACH OTHER. LORD, THROUGH YOUR GRACE AND MERCY. CONTINUE TO BLESS OUR CITY, OUR CITIZENS, AND ALL WHO LIVE HERE IN THE CITY OF PETERSBURG. IN JESUS NAME WE PRAY. AMEN. AMEN. ITEM THREE THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. COULD EVERYONE PLEASE STAND AND JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE? I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND 
          [4. Determination of the Presence of a Quorum]
JUSTICE FOR ALL. NEXT IS ITEM FOUR, THE TERMINATION OF THE PRESENCE OF A QUORUM. WE DO HAVE 
          [5. Proclamations/Recognitions/Presentation of Ceremonial Proclamations (Part 1 of 2)]
A QUORUM. NEXT IS PROCLAMATIONS, RECOGNITIONS, PRESENTATIONS OF CEREMONIAL PROCLAMATIONS. WE HAVE ITEM A, WHICH IS THE NATIONAL LEAGUE OF CITIES SMALL CITIES MONTH PROCLAMATION. 
          STATES, WHEREAS SMALL CITIES AND TOWNS UNDER 50,000 POPULATION ARE HOME TO MILLIONS OF AMERICANS AND CONSTITUTE THE VAST MAJORITY OF MUNICIPALITIES ACROSS THE UNITED STATES. AND WHEREAS SMALL CITIES AND TOWNS STRIVE TO STRENGTHEN THEIR COMMUNITIES THROUGH THE PROVISION OF SERVICES AND PROGRAMS TO IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR ALL CITIZENS. AND WHEREAS THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS AN ESSENTIAL PARTNER IN THE SUCCESS OF SMALL CITIES AND TOWNS, AND MUST BE ENCOURAGED TO CONTINUE TO SUPPORT PROGRAMS AND LEGISLATIONS THAT STRENGTHEN SMALL COMMUNITIES. AND WHEREAS STATE GOVERNMENTS ARE PARTNERS IN THE SUCCESS OF SMALL CITIES, AND TOWNS MUST BE ENCOURAGED TO SUPPORT KEY PROGRAMS AND LEGISLATIONS THAT STRENGTHEN COMMUNITIES, WHEREAS ORGANIZATIONS, BUSINESSES AND CITIZENS ARE PARTNERS IN THE SUCCESS OF SMALL CITIES AND TOWNS AND MUST BE ENCOURAGED TO CONTINUE TO GROW THEIR EFFORTS TO MAKE SMALL COMMUNITIES A VIABLE CHOICE FOR PEOPLE TO LIVE IN. AND WHEREAS, DURING THESE CHALLENGING ECONOMIC TIMES, THE NEED FOR RENEWED INTERGOVERNMENTAL PARTNERSHIP TO SUPPORT ESSENTIAL PUBLIC SERVICES IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN EVER TO ENSURE THE SAFETY AND GROWTH OF SMALL TOWN AMERICA. AND WHEREAS, THE NATIONAL LEAGUE OF CITIES PRESIDENT AND THE SMALL CITIES COUNCIL OF THE NATIONAL LEAGUE OF CITIES HAVE DECLARED JUNE 2025 AS SMALL CITIES MONTH. NOW THEREFORE, I. SAMUEL PALMER, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF PETERSBURG, VIRGINIA, DOES HEREBY PROCLAIM JUNE 2025 AS SMALL CITIES MONTH AND ENCOURAGE PRESIDENT TRUMP, CONGRESS, STATE GOVERNMENTS, ORGANIZATIONS, BUSINESSES, AND ALL CITIZENS TO RECOGNIZE THIS EVENT AND TO WORK TOGETHER THIS MONTH AND THROUGHOUT THE YEAR TO INVEST IN SMALL CITIES AND TOWNS TO BETTER THE LIVES OF ALL CITIZENS. THANK YOU. NEXT, WE MOVE ON TO ITEM SIX RESPONSES TO PREVIOUS PUBLIC INFORMATION POSTED. THERE ARE NO ITEMS TONIGHT. NEXT IS ITEM SEVEN. APPROVE THE CONSENT 
          [7. Approval of Consent Agenda]
AGENDA, WHICH INCLUDES MINUTES OF MEETINGS AND AMENDMENT TO THE MINUTES OF MAY 20TH WITH THE SPELLING NAME ON PAGE 17 AS CAST. KELSEY JEWELS. SO ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR THE AMENDMENT. COUNCILMAN CUTLER, DON'T MOVE. COUNCILMAN SMITH, SECOND MOTION A SECOND. CAN YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. CUTHBERT. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER. JONES. AYE. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER. MYERS. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER. SMITH. LEE. AYE. MAYOR. PARA. AYE. MOTION 
          [8. Official Public Hearings (Part 1 of 3)]
CARRIES. ALL RIGHT. NEXT IS ITEM EIGHT, OFFICIAL PUBLIC HEARINGS, ITEM A, A PUBLIC HEARING FOR CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE PURCHASE AGREEMENT 
          [00:05:05]
BETWEEN THE CITY OF PETERSBURG AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF 135 FRANKLIN STREET, 116 AND 110 NORTH JEFFERSON STREET. MISTER MOORE. GOOD EVENING, MISTER MAYOR. MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. TONIGHT WE HAVE MR. MURPHY COMING FORWARD TO TALK ABOUT HIS DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THE PROPERTIES LISTED IN THE PUBLIC HEARING. AFTER HE MAKES HIS PRESENTATION, WE'LL ASK THAT YOU OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. SIR, CAN YOU PULL PULL THE MIC UP. IS THAT BETTER? OKAY. YES? MR. MURPHY IS HERE. HE'S A PETITIONER AND HE'S GOING TO TALK THROUGH HIS PROJECT. AND AFTER THAT, WE WOULD LIKE YOU TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING, SIR. 
          OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, MR. MURPHY. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING, MISTER MAYOR AND COUNCIL. GOOD EVENING. I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT OUR PLANS FOR 135 FRANKLIN STREET, 116 AND 120 NORTH JEFFERSON STREET. WE HAVE PUT IN A REQUEST OR A PROPOSAL TO PURCHASE THESE LOTS BACK IN NOVEMBER OF 2023. AND SINCE THEN, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT ON THE PROCUREMENT OF THESE LOTS. IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE'VE MADE AN AGREEMENT THAT URBAN DEVELOPMENT WOULD GO AHEAD AND HAVE THE LOT SURVEYED AND HAVE THE LOTS, YOU KNOW, PREPARED FOR NEW HOUSING CONSTRUCTION. SO THERE'LL BE ONE NEW HOUSE ON FRANKLIN STREET, AND THEN THERE'LL BE A DUPLEX OR A DOUBLE HOUSE ON NORTH JEFFERSON STREET. AND SO THAT'S OUR OUR PROPOSAL. THE OFFERS THERE, THAT OFFER DOES NOT INCLUDE THE COST OF SURVEYING AND GETTING THE LOTS PREPPED FOR PROPER CONSTRUCTION. THAT COST IS AN ADDITIONAL 10 TO $14,000. SO ON TOP OF WHAT WE WERE OFFERING. SO THAT'S OUR PROPOSAL. I ASK FOR FAVORABLE ATTENTION ON THIS MATTER. THE LOTS HAVE BEEN VACANT NOW FOR QUITE A WHILE. AND AGAIN, LIKE FOR YOUR FAVORABLE ATTENTION ON THIS MATTER. OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. MURPHY. NOW OPEN THE FLOOR FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING, FOR THE CONSIDERATION OF THE ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE PURCHASE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF PETERSBURG AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF 135 FRANKLIN STREET, 116 AND 120 NORTH JEFFERSON STREET. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SEEING NO HANDS, THIS PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED. NEXT. COUNCILMAN COOPER. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THE LIGHT'S NOT WORKING ON THIS, SO I APPRECIATE IT. YOU YOU'VE GOT ESP OR WHATEVER. MR. MURPHY, WOULD YOU ANSWER A QUESTION FOR ME? YES, SIR. I APPRECIATE ALL YOU DO FOR PETERSBURG. AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE ON THE ARB. 
          THANK YOU. AND IT'S GOOD TO HAVE YOU AS A NEIGHBOR ACROSS THE STREET FROM ME ON NORTH SYCAMORE. TELL ME ABOUT THE DUPLEX ON NORTH JEFFERSON. IS THAT GOING TO BE OWNER OCCUPIED, OR IS THAT GOING TO BE RENTAL PROPERTY? NO, NO, WE'RE WE'RE FOCUSED ON OWNER OCCUPIED PROPERTIES. WE DON'T DO FLIPS. WE DON'T DO RENTALS, BUT WE WANT TO INCREASE THE OWNERSHIP. SO THESE PROPERTIES WILL BE PUT FOR SALE AS SOON AS THEY'RE COMPLETED. OKAY. ARE YOU GOING TO SELL ONE THE DUPLEX OR YOU COULD SELL IT TO TWO DIFFERENT PEOPLE, OR YOU CAN SELL IT TO ONE PERSON, OR THE PLAN IS TO SELL IT TO TWO DIFFERENT FAMILIES. OKAY. SO YOUR GOAL IS TO FOR IT TO BE OWNER OCCUPIED. YES. WELL THAT'S MY GOAL TOO. THAT'S CERTAINLY WHAT I THINK COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO SEE CERTAINLY THIS COUNCILMAN. SO I'M DELIGHTED TO HEAR THAT. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER. ALL RIGHT. WELL, COUNCIL MEMBER, WOULD YOU LIKE TO PUT A MOTION ON THE FLOOR THEN. YES. I MOVE THAT WE ADOPT THE RECOMMENDATION AS PRESENTED. ALL RIGHT. AND THAT'S APPROVING THE ORDINANCE FOR THE PURCHASE AGREEMENT. YES, EXACTLY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. SECOND. SECOND. COUNCILMAN SMITH LEE. MISS, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL COUNCIL MEMBER. CUTHBERT. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER. JONES. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER. 
          MYERS. COUNCIL MEMBER. SMITH. LEE. AYE. MAYOR. PAIR. AYE. MOTION CARRIES. NEXT IS ITEM B, A PUBLIC HEARING FOR CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE PURCHASE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF PETERSBURG AND BARBARA. CONSTRUCTION FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF 201 GRAHAM STREET AND 617 SOUTH SYCAMORE STREET. MISTER MOORE. GOOD 
          [00:10:01]
EVENING, MISTER MAYOR. MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. MISTER BARBER IS ON HIS WAY, BUT WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD. HIS DESIRE IS THE SAME TO PUT IN SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING FOR SALE. THIS IS AT 617 SOUTH SYCAMORE STREET AND 201 GRAHAM. I'LL HAVE MR. PHIL SCROLL THROUGH THE PACK A LITTLE BIT. HE HAS SUBMITTED ALL THE APPROPRIATE PAPERWORK. SO WE'LL PULL UP A COUPLE OF ELEVATIONS. 
          MISTER BARBER IS A KNOWN ENTITY WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY AND ALSO IN THE REGION, DOES EXCELLENT WORK. 
          AND THE DEPARTMENT IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THIS SUBMISSION. AND AFTER WE LOOK THROUGH A COUPLE OF THESE, WE WILL ASK YOU TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING, SIR. HE'S SCROLLING A LITTLE BIT. ABOUT. THERE WE GO. BREATHE. AS YOU CAN SEE, THIS WOULD BE AN ENFIELD BUILD. ALLOW US TO CONTINUE TO BUILD OUT THE NEIGHBORHOODS. SO. YEAH OKAY. OKAY, SIR. ALL RIGHT. OKAY, OKAY. MISTER MAYOR, WE'RE AT THIS POINT IF YOU WANT TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. NEXT I'LL OPEN UP THE FLOOR FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR CONSIDERATION OF ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A PURCHASE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF PETERSBURG AND BARBARA. CONSTRUCTION FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF 201 GRAHAM STREET AND 617 SOUTH SYCAMORE STREET. ALL RIGHT. YES, MISTER TALLY. GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL GARY, 2323 FORT STREET. I SAW THE OFFERING IS LIKE AGAIN 50% OF WHAT IT'S VALUED. ARE WE GOING TO CONTINUE DOING THAT? ALRIGHTY. SEEING NO MORE HANDS. THIS PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED. NEXT. COUNCILMAN COOPER, I MOVE THAT WE NOT APPROVE THE ORDINANCE AS PROPOSED FOR THE SALE OF 201 GRAHAM ROAD AND 617 SOUTH SYCAMORE STREET. COUNCILMAN JONES I SECOND. MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? OKAY. SEEING NONE. MISS HERE, COULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL COUNCIL MEMBER CUTHBERT? AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER. JONES. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER. MYERS. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER. SMITH. LEE I MAYOR. PAIR I THE MOTION CARRIES. NEXT IS ITEM C, A PUBLIC HEARING FOR CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE PURCHASE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF PETERSBURG AND ANTHONY JACKSON FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF 723 HARDEN STREET. MISTER MOORE. THANK YOU, MISTER MAYOR. MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. IT'S ANOTHER DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. MR. JACKSON IS HERE, SO HE WILL SPEAK IN THE FRONT. AND THEN WE WOULD ASK YOU TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. SO ANOTHER INFILL DEVELOPMENT, MR. JACKSON. GOOD EVENING. IT'S JUST A SIMPLE NEW CONSTRUCTION ON 723 HARDEN SINGLE FAMILY FOR OWNER OCCUPIED RESALE. THIS IS JUST FRONT ELEVATION. I DON'T HAVE ANY CONTROL OF THE FRONT ELEVATION GOES THROUGH PROPERTY. IT'S A THREE BED, TWO AND A HALF BATH. I BUILT THE SAME PROPERTY AT 124 PINE STREET. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SEE YOU THERE. OKAY. ALRIGHTY. YEAH. PRETTY SIMPLE. 
          STRAIGHTFORWARD. OKAY. 
          GOOD. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. NEXT, OPEN THE FLOOR FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR CONSIDERATION. ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE PURCHASE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF PETERSBURG AND ANTHONY JACKSON FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF 723 HARDEN STREET. ALL RIGHT. SEEING NO HANDS. THIS PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED. COUNCILMAN MYERS. I MOVE THAT WE ALLOW THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT. OKAY, COUNCILMAN 
          [00:15:05]
JONES, I SECOND THE MOTION A SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. MISS HILL, CAN YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL COUNCIL MEMBER CUTHBERT? AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER. JONES. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER. 
          MYERS. COUNCIL MEMBER. SMITH. AYE. MAYOR. AYE. MOTION CARRIES. NEXT IS ITEM D, A PUBLIC HEARING FOR CONSIDERATION OF AMENDMENT TO THE FY 26 GRANTS FUND. CLOSURE. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. GARY COZIER, BUDGET MANAGER. TONIGHT WE HAVE FOR YOU A AMENDMENT TO THE FY 26 BUDGET. 
          SO THE BUDGET THAT WILL START IN JULY. WE HAVE A NEW GRANT THAT WAS AWARDED TO THE PETERSBURG BUREAU OF POLICE FOR SOFTWARE AND TECHNOLOGY UPGRADES. THE GRANT IS $125,000. AND WE ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL. SO THANK YOU. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL OPEN THE FLOOR NOW FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE CONSIDERATION OF THE AMENDMENT TO THE FY 26 GRANT FUND. OKAY. SEEING NO HANDS, THIS PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED. COUNCILMAN SMITH LEE, SO MOVED. COUNCILMAN MYERS, SECOND AT THIS TIME IS HERE. CAN YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? COUNCIL MEMBER. CUTHBERT. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER. JONES. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER. MYERS. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER. LEE. AYE. MAYOR. AYE. 
          MOTION CARRIES. NEXT IS ITEM E, A PUBLIC HEARING FOR MICHAEL NICK TO APPEAL A DECISION MADE BY THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD REGARDING 224 EAST FILLMORE STREET IN THE POPLAR LAWN HISTORIC DISTRICT THAT DETERMINED THE WINDOWS SHOULD BE REPAIRED WHEN POSSIBLE AND REPLACED, IF NECESSARY, WITH WOOD CLAD AND ALUMINUM. THE APPLICANT SEEKS TO REPLACE ALL WINDOWS WITH WOOD CLAD IN ALUMINUM. GOOD EVENING. HI. MAYOR COUNCIL. NAOMI SIODMAK, PLANNING DIRECTOR FOR PETERSBURG. SO, AS YOU READ, WE DO HAVE AN APPEAL BEFORE YOU TODAY TO A DECISION MADE BY THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD. SO THIS IS FOR YOU ALL TO DETERMINE IF YOU'D LIKE TO REPEAL OR UPHOLD THE DETERMINATION FROM THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD THAT THE NINE WINDOWS ON THE FRONT OF THIS EAST FILLMORE STREET PROPERTY SHOULD BE REPAIRED INSTEAD OF REPLACED. THE REQUEST FROM THE PERSON APPEALING IS TO REPLACE ALL THE WINDOWS ON THE STRUCTURE. SO THAT IS WHAT THEY'RE APPEALING. THE DETERMINATION THAT THEY SHOULD BE REPAIRED INSTEAD OF REPLACED. SO HERE YOU CAN SEE THE LOCATION OF THE PROPERTY ON THE CORNER OF CLINTON STREET AND EAST FILLMORE STREET. AND A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND FOR YOU ALL. WE DID RECEIVE A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS APPLICATION BACK IN APRIL. THIS INCLUDED ITEMS TO REPLACE THE WINDOWS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY, BUT ALSO REPAIR THE FRONT GUTTER AND DISCUSS SOME ROOFING MATERIALS ON THE PROPERTY AS WELL. THE REQUEST WAS HEARD AND PART OF IT WAS DENIED. SO THE PART BEFORE YOU TO HEAR TODAY THAT APPEAL IS THAT THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD WOULD LIKE THE FRONT WINDOWS TO BE REPAIRED INSTEAD OF REPLACED. 
          TWO ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD MEMBERS DID GO OUT TO THE PROPERTY AND INSPECT THOSE WINDOWS IN PERSON TO HELP MAKE THIS DETERMINATION, AND NOTED THAT THE REMAINING WINDOWS COULD BE REPLACED SO THE FRONT WAS REPAIRED AND THEN THE ONES ON THE SIDE AND THE REAR COULD BE REPLACED. THE ONES THAT HAVE LESS VISIBLE VISIBLE IMPACT TO THE STREET. THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO REPLACE ALL WINDOWS AGAIN. THAT'S WHY HE'S PUTTING THIS APPEAL IN TODAY. HERE'S THE FRONT ELEVATION SO YOU CAN SEE THE WINDOWS THAT ARE IN PLACE IN THE FRONT THAT THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD ASKED THEM TO REPAIR. SO THE REASONS FOR DENIAL FOR THIS, WE HAVE MULTIPLE ITEMS IN OUR HISTORIC DISTRICT DESIGN GUIDELINES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH THE REHABILITATION OF BUILDING STRUCTURES. SO THE GOAL IS ALWAYS TO RETAIN THE ORIGINAL WINDOWS AND HISTORICALLY SIGNIFICANT EXAMPLES WHERE THAT CANNOT BE DONE. WE LOOK AT THE OPPORTUNITY FOR REPLACEMENT AND LOOK FOR OPPORTUNITIES TO REPLACE THAT HAVE MATERIALS THAT ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE EXISTING WINDOWS. AS YOU CAN SEE IN THIS EXAMPLE, THEY'RE LOOKING TO REPAIR THE FRONT ONES AS RECOMMENDED BY THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD. BUT SINCE THERE'S LESS IMPACT TO REPLACE THE SIDE WINDOWS AND THE REAR WINDOWS FROM THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY, THEY'RE OPEN TO THOSE BEING REPLACED. ALSO RETAINING AND PRESERVING WINDOWS THAT CONTRIBUTE TO THE OVERALL HISTORIC CHARACTER OF THE BUILDING. AS YOU SAW THIS PICTURE PREVIOUSLY, IT CONTRIBUTES TO THE HISTORIC CHARACTER OF THIS STRUCTURE. SO THE MOTION, AGAIN, IT'S ALWAYS DIFFICULT TO TALK IN TERMS OF APPEALS AND SO FORTH THAT COME BEFORE YOU ALL. THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD MADE A DECISION THAT THE FRONT WINDOW SHOULD BE REPAIRED INSTEAD OF REPLACED. THE APPLICANT HERE IS REQUESTING YOU ALL ALLOW THEM TO REPLACE ALL THE WINDOWS ON THE STRUCTURE. I DO HAVE THE APPLICANT, MICHAEL NICK HERE BEFORE YOU TODAY, SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THEM AS TO A REASON, THEY WANT TO APPEAL THIS DETERMINATION BY THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD, THEY CAN HELP YOU. I ALSO HAVE BILL HARTZOG FROM THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD THAT CAN ASSIST IN THIS CONVERSATION AS WELL. SO 
          [00:20:03]
LET ME KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THEM. OKAY. THANK YOU, MISS AMOKE. NEXT, I'LL OPEN THE FLOOR FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR MICHAEL NICK TO APPEAL THE DECISION MADE BY THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD REGARDING 224 FILLMORE STREET AND THE POPLAR LAWN HISTORIC DISTRICT. DETERMINING THAT THE WINDOW SHOULD BE REPAIRED WHEN POSSIBLE AND REPLACED, IF NECESSARY, WITH WOOD CLAD AND ALUMINUM. RIGHT? YES, SIR. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS MICHAEL. NICK. I'M REQUESTING YOU STATE YOUR ADDRESS FOR ME, PLEASE. NAME AND ADDRESS. 224 EAST FILLMORE STREET. OKAY. PERFECT. THE REASON I WAS REQUESTING TO REPLACE ALL OF THE WINDOWS. THIS HOUSE WILL BE A RENTAL PROPERTY. PULL THAT MICROPHONE A LITTLE BIT SO WE CAN HEAR YOU. I'M SORRY. PULL IT UP. YEAH. THERE WE GO. OKAY. SORRY. THE REASON FOR THE REQUEST TO CHANGE THEM ALL. THIS IS GOING TO BE A RENTAL PROPERTY. AND THE WINDOWS ARE THEY HAVE GOOD SASHES. BUT THAT IS ABOUT IT. THEY DON'T OPEN AND CLOSE. THE TRACKS ARE. SOME ARE GONE COMPLETELY. THE COUNTERWEIGHTS ARE NOT VERY RELIABLE OR ACCURATE. I WOULD HATE TO PUT SOMEONE INTO A PROPERTY THAT IF SOMETHING DOES GO WRONG, THEY CAN'T GET OUT OF THE WINDOW BECAUSE I COULDN'T CHANGE THEM ALL. ULTIMATELY, I'D STILL WOULD LIKE TO REPLACE ALL THE WINDOWS. PER THE GUIDELINES, ALUMINUM CLAD. JUST MAINTAIN THE SAME LOOK, SAME AMOUNT OF PAIN, SAME DIVIDERS. EVERYTHING WILL APPEAR THE SAME. THEY JUST WON'T BE THE ORIGINAL WINDOWS IF APPROVED. AND I DON'T KNOW ANY OTHER WAY TO EXPRESS IT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. 
          MAYOR. MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. BILL HARTSOCK, 239 HIGH STREET. GOOD EVENING. I'M A MEMBER OF THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD. I WAS ONE OF THE TWO BOARD MEMBERS THAT DID THE SITE INSPECTION FOR THIS PROPERTY. THE OTHER ONE WAS JOE YATES, WHO IS A LICENSED ARCHITECT. WE TOOK A LOOK AT ALL THE WINDOWS ALL THE WAY AROUND THE HOUSE. THERE WERE SOME DAMAGE TO SOME OF THE ONES IN THE BACK, BUT OUR CONCERN WAS OF COURSE THE FRONT. AND WE ARE UNDER THE GUIDELINES OF THE DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR AND ALSO THE CITY GUIDELINES FOR RENOVATION AND RESTORATION. AND WE FOUND THAT THE SASHES ARE IN GOOD SHAPE. THEY COULD BE PRESERVED. AND WE ALSO FOUND THAT THE CASINGS AND THE TRIM WORK AROUND THE SASHES COULD VERY EASILY BE DUPLICATED, REPLACED OR REPAIRED. IT'S NOT A QUESTION THAT THEY'RE TOTALLY TRASHED, OR THEY'RE JUST TOO ROTTED TO BE TO BE PRESERVED. SO WE HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THE SIDES IN THE BACK. IT'S THE FRONT ONES THAT OBVIOUSLY ARE PART OF THE GUIDELINES THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE TO ADMINISTER. SO WE'RE ASKING FOR YOUR APPROVAL OF OUR DECISION TO HAVE THE WINDOWS REPAIRED. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. SEEING NO MORE HANDS, THIS PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED. NEXT I'LL GO TO THE COUNCILMAN OF THE FOURTH WARD WHERE THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED. COUNCILMAN COVER. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. MR. HARTSOCK, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU. PLEASE DON'T MEAN TO WEAR YOU OUT GOING BACK AND FORTH, BUT THAT'S OKAY. I APPRECIATE IT. IF COUNCIL WANTED TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE ARB'S GUIDELINES AND THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICES REGULATIONS, WOULD WE APPROVE? THE DECISION MADE BY THE ARB OR WOULD WE TURN IT ASIDE? YOU WOULD BE APPROVING THE DECISION OF THE ARB TO HAVE THE WINDOWS REPAIRED AS OPPOSED TO REPLACED. SO IF CONSISTENCY IS IMPORTANT, THEN WE WOULD VOTE TO AFFIRM THE DECISION OF THE ARB. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. AND WE HAVE PRECEDENT IN THE PAST THAT WE HAVE FOUND IN THE SIMILAR SITUATIONS THAT WINDOWS ARE ONE OF OUR CHIEF ISSUES. RIGHT? WELL, AND THEY'RE IMPORTANT. THEY ARE VERY, SO IMPORTANT TO THE FABRIC OF THE BUILDING I BELIEVE. TOTALLY GREAT. ALL RIGHT. WELL, THANK YOU VERY 
          [00:25:04]
MUCH. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. YES, SIR. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN COOPER, I HAVE A MOTION TO MAKE IF LET ME GO TO THE NEXT QUESTION, I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION HERE WITH COUNCILMAN JONES. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. HOLD YOUR HORSES, COWBOY. NOW, I DON'T THINK MAYBE I HAVEN'T HEARD THEM PROPERLY. MAYBE WE HAVEN'T HEARD THEM PROPERLY. AND WE TALK ABOUT CONSISTENCY. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT IF WE ARE TO BE CONSISTENT, WE WERE WE WOULD APPROVE AND UPHOLD THE ARB DECISION. HOWEVER, YOU KNOW WHAT'S JUST AS IMPORTANT AS CONSISTENCY? SAFETY. NOBODY EVEN SAID ANYTHING ABOUT THESE WINDOWS NOT WORKING. AND WHETHER THERE'S A RENTAL PROPERTY OR WHETHER THIS MAN IS LIVING IN IT ON HIS OWN. I WOULD NOT SIT HERE AND UPHOLD ANYTHING THAT A FIREFIGHTER OR IN THIS CASE, LIKE WE GOT A CHILD HERO THAT WE'RE GOING TO CELEBRATE, TRY TO GO INTO A HOUSE OR GET OUT OF A HOUSE. AND THE WINDOWS ARE NOT WORKING. NOW, I UNDERSTAND YOU SAID YOU WANT TO REPLACE THEM WITH THE SAME THING. CLAD. AND WHAT'S THE OTHER NAME OF THIS? ALUMINUM AND ALUMINUM. YOU WANT TO REPLACE IT WITH THE SAME STUFF. SO WHAT'S THE PROBLEM? THE PROBLEM IS SAFETY. THE PROBLEM IS SAFETY. AND. TO SIT HERE AND WANT TO UPHOLD ANYTHING OVER TOP OF SAFETY IS WRONG. IT'S IMMORAL. AND I DON'T CARE WHO DON'T LIKE IT. YOU WANT TO. 
          YOU WANT THOSE WINDOWS. I'M SURE HE'LL GIVE THEM TO YOU WHEN HE REPLACE THEM, YOU KNOW. BUT I SAY WE SHOULD REPLACE THE WINDOWS BECAUSE THEY DON'T WORK. OTHER THAN THAT, I WOULD SAY NO, BUT THEY DON'T WORK. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, HE NEEDS. THERE'S CODES, FIRE CODES, BUILDING CODES, ALL KINDS OF CODES THAT SAY IF SOMEBODY'S LIVING IN THAT HOUSE, THE WINDOWS HAS TO WORK. 
          THEY GOT TO GO UP AND THEY GOT TO GO DOWN. AND WE'RE SITTING HERE AND WE CARE ABOUT HOW IT LOOK FROM THE FRONT SIDE, BUT NOBODY CARES UNTIL AN INCIDENT HAPPENED WHEN SOMEBODY IS TRAPPED INSIDE THIS BEAUTIFUL HOUSE WITH NON-WORKING WINDOWS. AND WHAT DO WE DO WHEN WE GOT PEOPLE LIVING IN THE CITY WITH NON-WORKING WINDOWS? WE WRITE THEM UP, WE TAKE THEM TO COURT, WE DO ALL KINDS OF THINGS. BUT HERE WE ARE. HERE I WANT TO SAY REPAIR THE WINDOWS. NOW LET'S REPAIRING IS GOING TO COME WITH FIXING THE WEIGHTS AND ALL THAT OTHER STUFF. I DON'T KNOW, BUT I KNOW MY COUNTERPART WANT TO MAKE A MOTION, BUT I WANT TO MAKE ONE TOO, BECAUSE I'M SURE IT'S GOING TO BE DIFFERENT. SO GO AHEAD. SO I CAN SAY NO. WELL THANK YOU. LET ME RESPOND. COUNCILMEMBER, BEFORE THE MOTION, CAN WE GET SOME CLARITY ON THE FUNCTIONING OF THE WINDOWS? SO IF THESE WINDOWS ARE RESTORED, ARE WE SAYING THAT THEY WON'T BE THAT THEY WILL NOT ABLE TO OPEN AND CLOSE? SO THE ONLY WAY TO RESTORE WINDOW THEY HAVE TO BE A FIXED WINDOW IS CAN YOU GIVE US SOME CLARITY ON THAT. WE WOULD WANT THESE WINDOWS REPAIRED TO A FUNCTIONAL WINDOW. AND IT SEEMS THAT IT'S BEEN INSPECTED IN THE FIELD BY THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD AND DETERMINED THAT THESE WINDOWS ARE IN A GOOD CONDITION. THAT COULD BE DONE. AND I MEAN, OF COURSE, EVERYONE WHO'S WORKING ON HOUSE IS GOING TO HAVE TO MEET OCCUPANCY STANDARDS AND SAFETY STANDARDS WE WOULDN'T SUPPORT OTHERWISE. RIGHT. AND ALSO, MR. PATTERSON, YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE REPAIR OF THE WINDOWS, BECAUSE I KNOW YOU'VE DONE THIS A FEW TIMES ABOUT REPAIRING THEM TO THE POINT WHERE THEY ARE THEY ARE FUNCTIONAL. AND I ALSO HAVE A QUESTION FROM A MEMBER OF COUNCIL ABOUT THE COST. YEAH. JOE BATTISTON, ONE SOUTH SYCAMORE STREET IN PETERSBURG. 
          I'VE REPAIRED WINDOWS MYSELF. I'VE REPAIRED THE SASHES. I'VE REPAIRED THE FRAMES, I'VE PUT THEM BACK INTO OPERATION. THE THREE BUILDINGS ARE ALL FAMILIAR WITH ON THE CORNER OF SYCAMORE AND WASHINGTON. THEY WERE ALL COMPLETELY TORE OUT AND BLOCKED UP WITH STUCCO. ALL OF THAT WAS PUT BACK INTO FUNCTION. THE REPAIRED WINDOWS, THE SAME THING. THE ONES ON THE REAR OF THE BUILDING AND ON THE SIDE OF THE BUILDINGS. THEY WERE REPAIRED. THEY WERE NOT FUNCTIONING AT THE TIME I OWNED THE BUILDINGS. WHEN I TURNED AROUND AND DID THE RENOVATION, THEY WERE BACK FUNCTIONAL. I STILL HAVE SOME WINDOWS IN THAT BUILDING OR FROM THE 1800S SO THEY CAN BE MADE FUNCTIONAL. OTHERWISE I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO HAVE A CEO IF THERE WASN'T THE PROPER CODES BEING MET. OKAY, THANK YOU FOR THAT, MR. BATESON. COUNCILMAN JONES, ANY ANY 
          [00:30:03]
QUESTIONS FOR MR. I'M JUST GOING TO SAFETY. YES, SIR. I'M CONCERNED ABOUT YOU SAID YOU WANT TO REPLACE THE WINDOWS WITH THE SAME STUFF THEY MADE OUT OF. AND HERE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT GOING BACK TO THE 1800S. I DON'T THINK NOBODY'S LIVING WITH THAT BUSINESS ANYMORE TO MAKE THOSE WINDOWS. BUT ANOTHER THING IS THE COST THAT WE'RE PUTTING ON PERSON. THEY WANT TO BRING STUFF TO THE CITY. WHAT IS IT GONNA COST TO REPLACE THOSE WINDOWS WITH THE SAME STUFF, THE SAME MATERIAL, AND LOOK THE SAME? EVENTUALLY IT'S GOING TO GET TO THAT VERSUS VERSUS REPAIRING THEM. I DON'T I DON'T UNDERSTAND. WHAT CAN YOU. YES, YES. AGAIN YOU CAN ASK A QUESTION. SURE. I WILL NOTE THAT THE REPLACEMENT MATERIALS ARE NOT THE SAME. SO THE ORIGINAL ONES CURRENTLY ARE MADE OF JUST ENTIRELY WOOD. THE REQUESTED REPLACEMENT IS WOOD CLAD IN ALUMINUM. SO THERE IS A DIFFERENCE IN MATERIALS. SO EARLIER YOU SAID IT WAS IT WAS THE SAME MATERIAL THAT THEY WERE. I'M SORRY IF I MISSPOKE, BUT THE EXISTING ONES ARE WOOD AND THE PROPOSED MATERIAL IS WOOD CLAD AND ALUMINUM. SO MY APOLOGIES IF I DID MISSPEAK. 
          THAT'S ALL I GOT, MR. MAYOR. THANKS. OKAY, SO AT THIS TIME, COUNCILMAN CUTLER, I MOVE THAT WE AFFIRM THE DECISION OF THE ARB. OKAY. MOTION TO AFFIRM THE DECISION OF THE ARB. SECOND SECOND BY COUNCILMAN SMITH LEE. ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS ON THE MOTION? SEEING NONE. MISS HILL, COULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL COUNCIL MEMBER CUTHBERT? AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER. JONES. NO. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER. MYERS. COUNCIL MEMBER. LEE. AYE. MAYOR. PAIR. AYE. MOTION CARRIES. ALL RIGHT. 
          [5. Proclamations/Recognitions/Presentation of Ceremonial Proclamations (Part 2 of 2)]
AT THIS TIME, WE ARE GOING BACK TO A SPECIAL PRESENTATION THAT WE HAVE FOR TONIGHT. WE HAVE OUR FIRE CHIEF HERE. CHIEF BARLOW JUST CAME IN WITH OUR WITH OUR SPECIAL HONOREE, MR. RAMIR PARKER. 12 YEAR-OLD RAMIR PARKER. YES, YES. ALL RIGHT. HERE, BOY, LOOK AT ALL THESE PEOPLE. OKAY. AND WE WANTED TO HONOR RAMIR TODAY. AND WE HAVE FOR HIS HEROIC ACTIONS ON JUNE 3RD OF SAVING HIS FAMILY MEMBERS OUT OF A FIRE, A WICKED FIRE ON BUCKNER STREET. AND AT THIS TIME, THE PROCLAMATION SAYS, WHEREAS THE CITY OF PETERSBURG RECOGNIZES AND HONORS INDIVIDUALS WHOSE COURAGE, SELFLESSNESS, AND QUICK THINKING SERVE AS EXTRAORDINARY EXAMPLES OF HEROISM AND COMMUNITY SPIRIT. AND WHEREAS ON THE MORNING OF JUNE 3RD, 2025, 12 YEAR OLD RAMIR PARKER WAS AT HOME IN PETERSBURG, VIRGINIA, WITH HIS GRANDMOTHER AND TWO YOUNGER BROTHERS WHEN HE DETECTED SIGNS OF DANGER, STRANGE CRACKLING NOISE AND THE SMELL OF SMOKE COMING FROM DOWNSTAIRS. AND WHEREAS, WITHOUT PANIC OR HESITATION, RAMIREZ SPRANG INTO ACTION, ALERTING HIS GRANDMOTHER AND RUSHING INTO A SMOKE FILLED LIVING ROOM TO RESCUE HIS ONE AND TWO YEAR OLD BROTHERS, DEMONSTRATING A LEVEL OF BRAVERY AND PRESENCE OF MIND WELL BEYOND HIS YEARS. AND WHEREAS RAMIREZ SUCCESSFULLY LED HIS ENTIRE FAMILY OUT OF THE BURNING HOME TO SAFETY JUST MOMENTS BEFORE THE ARRIVAL OF PETERSBURG FIRE AND EMERGENCY SERVICES, WHO CONFIRMED THAT HIS ACTIONS LIKELY PREVENTED INJURY OR WORSE. AND WHEREAS THE PETERSBURG FIRE AND RESCUE EMERGENCY SERVICES PUBLICLY PRAISED RAMIREZ, QUICK THINKING AND SELFLESS BRAVERY AS NOTHING SHORT OF HEROIC. RECOGNIZING THAT HE ACTED WITH THE HEART OF A FIRST RESPONDER AND THE SOUL OF A PROTECTOR. AND WHEREAS THE FIRE WAS DETERMINED TO HAVE BEEN CAUSED BY AN ELECTRICAL ISSUE IN THE DOWNSTAIRS AREA AND HAS BEEN RULED ACCIDENTAL. FURTHER EMPHASIZING HOW CRITICAL RAMIREZ SWIFT RESPONSE WAS IN PRESERVING LIFE AND MINIMIZING HARM. AND WHEREAS RAMIREZ PARKER'S COURAGE IS A SHINING EXAMPLE OF RESILIENCE, RESPONSIBILITY, AND THE POWER OF INSTINCTIVE LEADERSHIP IN OUR YOUTH, NOW, THEREFORE, I, SAMUEL PARKER, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF PETERSBURG, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM 12 YEAR OLD RAMIR PARKER AS AN OFFICIAL CITY OF PETERSBURG HERO AND EXTEND OUR DEEPEST GRATITUDE. EXTEND OUR GRATITUDE AND ADMIRATION FOR HIS BRAVERY AND SELFLESS ACTIONS IN THE FACE OF DANGER. FURTHERMORE, LET IT BE KNOWN 
          [00:35:03]
THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF PETERSBURG RECOGNIZES RAMIR PARKER IN CELEBRATION OF HIS REMARKABLE HEROISM AND IN ACKNOWLEDGMENT OF THE INSPIRATION HE PROVIDES TO OUR WHOLE COMMUNITY. A WITNESS THEREFORE HAVE SAID UNTO MY HAND CAUSED THE SEAL OF THE CITY OF PETERSBURG TO BE AFFIXED TO THE 17TH DAY OF JUNE, 2025, SIGNED BY MYSELF AND THE CLERK OF COUNCIL, MISS TANJI HILL. RAMIR PROUD OF YOU. GOOD JOB BUDDY, GOOD JOB. WE'RE GOING TO COME DOWN AND TAKE A PICTURE WITH YOU, OKAY? ALL RIGHT. SO, GENTLEMEN. OH, I'M SO PROUD OF YOU. BUY YOU SOME ICE CREAM. CONGRATULATIONS. AND THANK YOU, FUTURE FIREMAN. THAT'S RIGHT. 
          ALL RIGHT. PROCLAMATION REPRESENTATIVE, YOU CAN TAKE A PICTURE TOGETHER. YEAH. I HOPE WE HAVE EVERYBODY HERE. CHIEF? CHIEF, ARE YOU THERE? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. LOOK AT ME. LOOK AT YOU. 
          I CAN'T BELIEVE I'M. GREAT. THANK YOU. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU. HOW YOU FEELING? I FEEL GOOD. YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING? GREAT, CHIEF? YOU CAN. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BITE YOU. YEAH, I'M JUST SAYING. YOU GOT ANYTHING YOU WANT TO SAY? NOT AT ALL. ALL RIGHT, YOU GOT. YOU GOT AN APPLICATION FOR HIM FOR RECRUIT SCHOOL YET? I WAS FIRST AND FOREMOST MAYOR. MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR RECOGNIZING ME. AS YOU CAN TELL, WE'VE ALREADY MADE HIM AN HONORARY MEMBER OF OUR DEPARTMENT, AND WE COULD NOT BE PROUDER OF HIM. I WILL ALSO TELL YOU TOMORROW NIGHT WHERE WE WILL BE THROWING OUT THE FIRST PITCH FOR THE CHILI PEPPERS GAME. TOMORROW IS FIRST RESPONDER NIGHT AND MYSELF. YEAH. THAT'S RIGHT. MYSELF AND MISS BRENDA WOODCOCK FROM BONESHAKERS WILL BE GOING ON THE FIELD, AND WE'VE GOT SOME PRESENTATIONS FOR THEM AS WELL. AND AGAIN, THERE'S NO DOUBT IN MY MIND THAT THIS YOUNG MAN SAVED LIVES AND WE'RE SO PROUD OF HIM. THANK YOU ALL AGAIN FOR RECOGNIZING WE APPRECIATE IT. ALRIGHT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, CHIEF HOOVER AND. ALL RIGHT. AND TO THE FIREMEN OF THE CITY COUNCIL. COUNCILMAN JONES. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. MR. PARKER. MR. PARKER AND EVERYBODY HERE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS UNDERSTAND WHAT TOOK PLACE WHEN HE WENT BACK INTO A HOUSE ON FIRE TO SAVE HIS SIBLINGS. YOU SEE, THERE WAS A FIRE ON HARRISON STREET WHEN I WAS A FIREFIGHTER. ME AND CHIEF BARLOW WAS THERE, AND THE SAME ATTEMPT HAPPENED WITH A YOUNG MAN. HOLD ON. CHIEF. CHIEF, TELL HIM TO HOLD ON TO. HE NEED TO HEAR THIS. AND THE SAME THING HAPPENED WITH A YOUNG MAN THAT I HAPPEN TO HAVE COACHED. WENT BACK INTO THE HOUSE TO SAVE HIS SIBLINGS. ONLY THIS TIME HE DIDN'T MAKE IT OUT. WHEN WE FOUND HIM THAT MORNING, HIS FIRE WAS GOING ON ALL NIGHT TILL THE NEXT MORNING. WE FOUND HIM IN THE FRONT RIGHT CORNER OF THE HOUSE WITH HIS SIBLINGS HEADS TURNED INTO HIS ARMPITS, AND ALL OF THEM WAS FACE DOWN. HE WENT UP TO TRY TO SAVE HIM. HE DIDN'T MAKE IT OUT. THAT'S A VISION. I SEE ALL THE TIME. AND YOUNG MAN, YOU MADE IT OUT. YOU MADE IT OUT. AND I BELIEVE THE SOULS OF THOSE ONES WHO DIDN'T MAKE IT THAT DAY WAS WITH YOU. AND YOU MADE IT OUT. NOW, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE DON'T PUSH THAT. YOU SHOULD GO IN A BURNING HOUSE. BUT I BELIEVE THAT EVERYBODY IN THIS ROOM WOULD HAVE DONE THE SAME THING. WHEN IT COME TO YOUR KIDS AND WHEN IT COME TO YOUR SIBLINGS. NOW, HAD HE NOT DONE THAT? THE WAY WE DO IT AS FIREFIGHTERS, WE DO A SYSTEMATIC SEARCH. CORRECT? WE DON'T KNOW WHERE YOUR LOVED ONES ARE AT ALL THE TIME IN THE HOUSE. SO WE GOT TO SYSTEMATICALLY SEARCH AND HE KNEW EXACTLY WHERE THEY WERE AT. 
          [00:40:05]
AND THAT'S WHY HE WAS ABLE TO SAVE THEM JUST LIKE THAT. IF WE HAD TO DO IT AS A 5050 CHANCE THAT WE WOULD HAVE BROUGHT HIM OUT THERE ALIVE. AND SO, CHIEF HOOVER, I ASK YOU TO I'M ASKING YOU TO READ. GIVE BIRTH TO THE PETERSBURG FIRE EXPLORERS, WHICH WAS A PROGRAM THAT CHIEF BARLOW WAS A PART OF. YOU KNOW ABOUT IT BECAUSE YOU WERE HERE WHEN IT STARTED. CHIEF HOOVER, FIRE EXPLORERS IS FOR YOUNG MEN LIKE HIM, LIKE MR. PARKER, TO PARTICIPATE AND BECOME A FUTURE FIREFIGHTER. AND NOT JUST WITH THE FIRE EXPLORERS, BUT ALSO, YOU MENTIONED IT WAS ELECTRICAL. 
          WE WANT TO TEACH THEM HOW TO DO SELF INSPECTIONS, HOME INSPECTIONS. AND IN THAT NATURE, YOUNG MAN, THIS IS BIGGER THAN JUST THAN JUST BEING A HERO. YOU WENT BACK AND YOU MADE IT OUT. 
          AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU SHOULD BE PROUD OF AND YOUR SIBLINGS SHOULD BE PROUD OF. AND WE ARE PROUD OF. AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE, CHIEF HOOVER, THAT WE CAN START THAT PROGRAM BACK UP FOR MORE YOUTH LIKE THAT. I'M TIRED OF PEOPLE SAYING OUR YOUTH ARE NOTHING. THIS YOUNG MAN REPRESENTS OUR YOUTH IN THIS CITY. THEY GOT HOPES, THEY GOT DREAMS. THEY WANT TO BE SOMEBODY. AND HE WANTED OBVIOUSLY HIS SIBLINGS TO BE HERE AS LONG AS THEY CAN. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK Y'ALL SO MUCH. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. OKAY. NEXT WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM F IN THE AGENDA, WHICH IS A PUBLIC HEARING FOR 
          [8. Official Public Hearings (Part 2 of 3)]
CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE TO APPROVE AN AMENDMENT TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PETERSBURG PERTAINING TO SHORT TERM RENTAL USES IN THE CITY OF PETERSBURG. MISS. SIDEWALK. 
          THANK YOU. MAYOR. SO YES, TODAY WE'RE BEFORE YOU TO TALK ABOUT A RECOMMENDED TEXT AMENDMENT TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE TO DEFINE, PERMIT AND REGULATE SHORT TERM RENTALS. EXAMPLES OF WHAT A SHORT TERM RENTAL IS THAT INCLUDES AIRBNB, HOMESTAY, FLIPKEY, THOSE KIND OF ESTABLISHMENTS. A SHORT TERM RENTAL IS A RENTAL OF A DWELLING UNIT OR A ROOM FOR FEWER THAN 30 CONSECUTIVE DAYS IN EXCHANGE FOR PAYMENT. RIGHT NOW, WE DON'T HAVE A USE FOR SHORT TERM RENTALS IN OUR CITY CODE AND ORDINANCE, SO IT'S NOT CURRENTLY ACCOUNTED FOR OR REGULATED. SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE BEFORE YOU ALL TODAY TO ESTABLISH WHERE IT CAN GO, HOW IT'S REGULATED IN OUR ZONING ORDINANCE. BACKGROUND. THIS CONVERSATION STARTED A LONG TIME AGO, AND NOW WE'RE FINALLY HERE. SO WE'RE EXCITED TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH YOU ALL ABOUT SHORT TERM RENTALS. BACK IN 2022, THE DISCUSSION OF THE TOPIC BEGAN ON HOW TO REGULATE THIS ITEM. IN 2023. WE BROUGHT IT BACK. WE HAD A MEETING WITH SOME INTERNAL STAFF TO TALK ABOUT IT. CITY MANAGER JOANNE WILLIAMS, BRITTANY FLOWERS AND THEN BACK BETWEEN 2024 OF JULY AND MAY 2025. WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON THIS. WE'VE SPENT ALMOST AN ENTIRE YEAR GOING THROUGH THIS LANGUAGE TO FIGURE OUT THE BEST WAY TO PRESENT IT. MARCH 17TH, 2025. 
          THE PLANNING COMMISSION DECIDED IT WAS BEST TO CREATE A SUBCOMMITTEE TO FURTHER DELVE INTO THIS AND COME UP WITH RECOMMENDATIONS. AND THEN MAY 1ST, 2025, PLANNING COMMISSION FELT GOOD ABOUT THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND RECOMMENDED APPROVAL IN A FIVE FOR AND ZERO AGAINST VOTE. SO WHERE AND HOW THESE WILL BE PERMITTED. MOST OF THESE WILL LOOK TO BE BY RIGHT AND HIGHER DENSITY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT R3 FOUR, FIVE AND SIX. THOSE ARE OUR DISTRICTS THAT ALLOW DUPLEXES SOME MULTIFAMILY AS WELL. ALSO IN OUR MIXED USE ZONING DISTRICTS, MK1, WHICH IS OUR MIXED USE RESIDENTIAL AND MIXED TWO MIXED USE COMMERCIAL AND COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS THAT ALLOW MULTIFAMILY CURRENTLY. SO RESIDENTIAL BUSINESS ZONING DISTRICT, OUR B2 COMMERCIAL DISTRICT AND B3, THOSE ARE ZONING DISTRICTS THAT ALLOW MULTIFAMILY WITH A SPECIAL USE PERMIT OR HAVE EXISTING MULTIFAMILY HOUSING. WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO IS CREATE A REGISTRY FOR SHORT TERM RENTALS. THEY WILL BE REQUIRED TO SUBMIT AN APPLICATION TO STAFF, TO THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR, AND ANNUALLY VERIFY COMPLIANCE WITH THE STANDARDS WE'RE SHARING WITH YOU ALL TODAY. IF THEY DON'T COMPLY AND APPLY BY THE DEADLINE OF $500, VIOLATION FEE WILL APPLY FOR THAT SHORT TERM RENTAL USE STANDARDS WE'RE LOOKING TO IMPLEMENT. APPLY TO SAFETY, OCCUPANCY AND AGAIN, ESTABLISHING PENALTIES FOR VIOLATIONS. HERE ARE THE STANDARDS WE'RE LOOKING AT SO LIMITED TO THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE. IT CAN'T BE A SHED OR GARAGE ON THE BUILDING. IT NEEDS TO BE AT LEAST 18 YEARS OR OLDER TO RENT OVERNIGHT. GUESTS CAN'T EXCEED SIX UNRELATED ADULTS. NO VISIBLE RECREATIONAL VEHICLES STORED ON SITE. NO SIGNAGE. TRASH NEEDS TO BE COORDINATED WITH THOSE RENTING AND OPERATORS TO ENSURE IT'S TAKEN OUT ON TIME. NO FOOD PREPARED ON THE PROPERTY FOR ANY OF THE GUESTS, AND NO COMMERCIAL USE IS ALLOWED. ALSO, SHORT TERM RENTALS WILL HAVE THE SAME 
          [00:45:03]
REGISTRATION PROCESS, SO NONE OF THEM AS PROPOSED WILL REQUIRE A SPECIAL USE PERMIT. WHETHER THE OCCUPANT OCCUPIES IT OR DOES NOT. LIMITED TO FOR APARTMENTS. WE HAVE ESTABLISHED A NUMBER A MAXIMUM OF TEN UNITS OR A THIRD OF THE UNITS, WHICHEVER IS LESS, COULD BE APPLIED FOR. TO BE A SHORT TERM RENTAL. WE'RE ESTABLISHING A DEADLINE OF OCTOBER 1ST FOR PEOPLE TO GET THAT INFORMATION TO US, BECAUSE WE'RE GETTING CLOSER TO THE OPENING OF THE CASINO, AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE A REGISTRY FOR THOSE ITEMS. REGISTRATION CAN BE REVOKED FOR MULTIPLE REASONS. IF PEOPLE ARE NOT COMPLYING WITH THE STANDARDS THAT I SHARED WITH YOU, IF PEOPLE ARE NOT REGISTERING, REVOCATION REQUIRES THAT WE GIVE THEM NOTICE THAT THEY HAVE TIME TO COMPLY. THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO APPEAL AS WELL. COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CONSIDERATIONS FOR THIS. SO THAT IS OUR VISION FOR THE NEXT 20 YEARS. FOR PETERSBURG. IT REALLY EMPHASIZES HOSPITALITY AND EXPANDING HOW WE ACCOMMODATE PEOPLE IN THE CITY. EXISTING SHORT TERM RENTALS ARE CURRENTLY UNDERUTILIZED REVENUE STREAM. WE DO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TAX THESE, AND THE WAY THAT WE CAN TAX THEM IS BY FIRST CREATING THIS REGISTRY. AND THEN THE PLAN RECOMMENDS MAKING SURE SHORT TERM RENTAL USES PAY THOSE TAXES. AND THAT REGISTRY, LIKE I MENTIONED, IS THAT FIRST STEP. 
          PLANNING COMMISSION AGAIN RECOMMENDED IN FAVOR OF THIS FIVE IN SUPPORT ZERO AGAINST AFTER WE ESTABLISHED THIS TEXT AMENDMENT. AFTER WE CREATE THIS REGISTRY, THE COMMISSIONER OF REVENUE CAN WORK WITH THE CITY TO ESTABLISH THE TAX ON THESE PROPERTIES AS WELL. SO HERE'S A SAMPLE MOTION TO APPROVE, DENY OR AMEND THE PROPOSAL FOR SHORT TERM RENTAL REGULATIONS IN THE CITY. LET ME KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. OKAY. THANK YOU, MISS AHMAD. NEXT WE'LL OPEN THE FLOOR FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR CONSIDERATION OF ORDINANCE TO APPROVE AN AMENDMENT TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PETERSBURG PERTAINING TO SHORT TERM RENTAL USES IN THE CITY OF PETERSBURG. YES, SIR. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. I'M REVEREND EUGENE BLOW, AND THIS IS MY WIFE, DOCTOR TAMARA BLOW. AND I'D LIKE TO FIRST GREET THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL. WE HAVE A PROPERTY HERE IN PETERSBURG, AND IT'S ZONED IN OUR ZONE ONE ONE. AND THAT'S BASICALLY ALL RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS. ALL ALL RESIDENTIAL HOUSES, AIRBNB. I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY KNOWS ABOUT THAT, BUT AIRBNB, ALL OF THEIR RENTALS ARE MAJORITY OF THEIR RENTALS ARE IN RESIDENTIAL HOUSES. AND WE'D LIKE TO ASK FOR AN AMENDMENT TO THIS. TO THIS ZONING TO ALLOW US TO DO SHORT TERM RENTALS IN OUR HOME, IN OUR ONE ZONE. THANK YOU. REVEREND, COULD YOU GIVE US THE ADDRESS OF THE HOME? 1725 MONTICELLO STREET HERE IN PETERSBURG AND WALNUT HILL? THANK YOU. MISS ME? OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. IS THAT. THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. YES, MA'AM. 
          WELCOME. YEAH. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS DIANE CURLING. I LIVE AT 116 LIBERTY STREET. MY HUSBAND AND I HAVE OWNED THE HOME FOR 11 YEARS NOW. WE LOVE SHORT TERM RENTALS. WE WERE MARRIED 50 YEARS AGO. LAST YEAR. OUR CHILDREN JUST GAVE US A GIFT CERTIFICATE TO STAY IN OUR SHORT TERM RENTAL IN WEST VIRGINIA. WE STAYED THERE THIS WEEKEND AND IT WAS LOVELY, BUT I HOPE THAT CITY COUNCIL WOULD CONSIDER AN AMENDMENT TO ALLOW SHORT TERM RENTALS IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS ONLY IF THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY IS THERE AT THE TIME. IN SEPTEMBER OF 2023, THE CITY OF RICHMOND AMENDED THEIR SHORT TERM RENTAL RESTRICTIONS GUIDELINES SO THAT 185 DAYS OF THE YEAR, A PROPERTY OWNER HAD TO BE THERE AT THAT TIME FOR SHORT TERM RENTAL. THE REASON WE NEED THAT IS BECAUSE OUR HOUSING STOCK IN PETERSBURG IS SO LOW THAT OUR RENTAL AND PURCHASE PRICES ARE TOO HIGH FOR SO MANY OF OUR FAMILIES. NOW, I'M GOING TO TELL YOU, I AM A 
          [00:50:07]
PREJUDICED PERSON. I'M A FORMER SCHOOL TEACHER. I FEEL WE NEED MORE FAMILIES AND MORE CHILDREN LIKE THIS WONDERFUL YOUNG MAN THAT THE CITY JUST CELEBRATED HERE TONIGHT. WE ARE GOING TO LOSE OUT TO SO MANY SHORT TERM RENTALS. MORE SO I BELIEVE BECAUSE THE CASINO IS COMING INTO TOWN AND AFTER HAVING BEEN IN WEST VIRGINIA THIS WEEKEND, MY HUSBAND AND I BOTH HAD VISIONS OF PETERSBURG TURNING INTO A VERY LARGE HARPERS FERRY WHERE WE HAD HISTORIC SITES, WE HAD SHORT TERM RENTALS, AND WE HAD FUDGE SHOPS, BUT WE DID NOT HAVE ENOUGH FAMILIES BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE HOUSING STOCK THAT PEOPLE HERE CAN AFFORD. JUST ON MY LITTLE THREE BLOCK STREET HERE IN PETERSBURG, THERE IS A GENTLEMAN IN TOWN WHO I'VE BEEN TOLD REPEATEDLY OWNS MORE THAN 80 HOMES IN PETERSBURG. HE PURCHASES THEM, HE TURNS THEM INTO RENTALS, WHICH IS FINE, BUT HE SITS ON THEM FOR YEARS. THIS IS A PROBLEM PETERSBURG HAS. AND WE CAN'T SOLVE THAT PROBLEM RIGHT AT THE MOMENT. BUT HERE'S ONE WE CAN NIP IN THE BUD. PLEASE CONSIDER AMENDING THIS SO THAT WE GRANDFATHER, IN THE SHORT TERM RENTAL PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE NOW WHO ARE GREAT, THEY'RE WONDERFUL. WE HAVE BEAUTIFUL SHORT TERM RENTALS HERE. BUT THAT ANYTHING IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA THAT WE LIMIT SO THAT THE HOST LIVES ON THE PROPERTY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS AMANDA WYATT. I OWN PROPERTY IN PETERSBURG. 224 WHITMAN STREET, AND I'M LOOKING TO OPEN UP ONE OF THESE. FURNITURE HOMES THAT FOR TRAVELING NURSES, DOCTORS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. I THINK THIS WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, RIGHT? AND SO I THINK MINE IS GOING TO BE IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA, BUT I'M GOING TO BE ON TOP OF MY PROPERTY. I'M GOING TO WORK WITH MY NEIGHBORS AND EVERYTHING, BECAUSE I'M TRYING TO BRING WHERE, WHERE I LIVE AT UP BACK INTO GOOD STANDARDS. AND SO I HOPE Y'ALL ARE TAKING CONSIDERATION OF THIS, BECAUSE I THINK A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE IS TRYING TO DO FURNITURE HOME OR AIRBNB OR WHATEVER, BUT I THINK THIS IS A GOOD PROJECT. THANK YOU. OKAY, MISS PAULA CHESTER. 
          PAULA CHESTER, 1013 OAKMONT DRIVE I DO NOT PARTICULARLY CARE FOR THE SHORT TERM RENTALS. I FEEL THAT RESIDENTS WHO ALREADY LIVE IN THESE COMMUNITIES WITH THEIR FOR ALL THEIR LIFE INVESTED THEIR MONEY, THEIR TIME AND LOOKING FORWARD TO RETIRING OR JUST HAVING PEACE THAT CONSTANTLY HAVING A TURNOVER OF PEOPLE COMING IN, WE ARE NOT GUARANTEED THAT THEY ARE GOING TO BE LAW ABIDING OR WILLING TO BE ABLE TO BE RESPECTFUL TO THE NEIGHBORS. THIS CAN CAUSE TRASH. 
          YOU'RE ALWAYS TALKING ABOUT TRASH. BECAUSE THE LITTERING IT CAN CAUSE A LOUD NOISE. 
          EVERYBODY IS NOT GOING TO BE LAW ABIDING, AND WE HAVE TO KEEP THAT IN MIND AND NOT BE NAIVE IN THINKING. SO I'M CONCERNED ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THESE SHORT TERM RENTALS AND THE PROPERTY OWNERS NOT BEING THERE. IT CAN ALSO BE A PROBLEM WITH CREATING CRIMES SUCH AS DRUGS. YOU DON'T KNOW THAT PERSON. WE DON'T KNOW THOSE PEOPLE. THEY COMING IN, GOING, COMING IN AND GOING. YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING IN THEIR HOMES WHILE THEY'RE IN THE CITY. SO THAT'S ANOTHER THING I HAVE BEEN THINKING ABOUT AND BEING CONCERNED ABOUT. I DON'T WANT OUR CITY TO GO BACK DOWN WITH THE WORD GETTING OUT THAT PETERSBURG IS AN AREA WHERE YOU CAN MAKE MONEY WITH THE SHORT TERM RENTALS, AND THEN OUR RESIDENTS WHO HAVE LIVED HERE START MOVING OUT BECAUSE THEY CANNOT TOLERATE THAT TYPE OF RESIDENTIAL LIFESTYLE. AND THEREFORE THE CITY MAY AGAIN GO BACK DOWN AND NOT GROW. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS MARLOWE GREEN. GOOD EVENING, MEMBERS OF 
          [00:55:09]
COUNCIL. GOOD EVENING. 301 WHARF STREET. SO I WANT TO, YOU KNOW, BACK THE OTHER INDIVIDUALS HERE THAT MENTIONED THE SHORT TERM RENTAL. I WOULD SAY WE SHOULD OPEN IT AND AMEND IT. THE MOTION. WELL, EXCUSE ME, THE ORDINANCE TO INCORPORATE THE R-1 DISTRICT, REASON BEING IS BECAUSE I THINK PEOPLE ARE STILL GOING TO BE WE'RE GOING TO BE OPENING OURSELVES UP FOR NONCOMPLIANCE. PEOPLE ARE GOING TO DO IT ANYWAY. RIGHT. AND ALTHOUGH WE EXPECT TO GET THE $500 FEE WHEN WE FIND OUT, ARE WE EXPECTING NEIGHBORS TO POLICE EACH OTHER AND TELL THE CITY WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THAT? SO I THINK YOU OPEN IT UP TO THE RESIDENTIAL ZONES, R-1 AS WELL, AND THEN ALSO LOOKING TO BECAUSE I HEAR THE OTHER LADY'S CONCERNS AS IT RELATES TO, YOU KNOW, SOME MITIGATING CONTROLS IN PLACE. SO IF WE DO OPEN IT UP TO THOSE RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITIES, MAYBE THERE'S SOME SORT OF FINES IF THERE'S LIKE INCIDENTS WHERE THAT PERSON ISN'T THROWING THEIR TRASH AWAY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT FROM A COMPLIANCE PERSPECTIVE, BUT JUST ENSURE WE HAVE THOSE MITIGATING CONTROLS SO WE DON'T HAVE PEOPLE GETTING OUT OF HAND WITH THE SHORT TERM RENTALS, AND THEN WE SHOULDN'T LEAVE THAT REVENUE ON THE TABLE. I SAY GO WITH THE R-1, THE RESIDENTIAL, NOT JUST THE R-3, BECAUSE AS THE OTHER INDIVIDUALS MENTIONED, IT'S PROBABLY A GOOD LOCATION TO HAVE WALNUT HILL, I WOULD THINK. AND TO ME, THEY LOOK LIKE THEY'RE GOOD PEOPLE. 
          BUT I THINK WE DO NEED SOME CONTROLS IN PLACE TO ENSURE THAT THEY STAY GOOD PEOPLE AND THEY MAKE SURE THEY HAVE THE RIGHT PEOPLE IN THERE, THAT PROPERTY. SO THANK YOU, THANK YOU. YES, MISS BLOW. I WANTED TO SAY HER HER CONCERNS ARE VALID. BUT WHAT I PROPOSE IS IF YOU DO CONSIDER THE AMENDMENT THAT IT WOULD BE IN AN AIRBNB ENVIRONMENT OR SOMETHING THAT IS REGULATED AND CONTROLLED, BECAUSE, NUMBER ONE, AIRBNB DOES NOT ALLOW PARTIES. AND WHEN YOU HAVE A CONTROLLED ENVIRONMENT, YOU'RE GOING TO YOU'RE YOU'RE RATED AND YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT PROPERTY IS TAKEN CARE OF INSIDE AND OUT. IT'S ALSO CERTAIN INSURANCES YOU HAVE TO HAVE. SO AIRBNB HAS THAT INFRASTRUCTURE ALREADY BUILT WITHIN THAT TO MAKE SURE IT'S IN COMPLIANCE. 
          AND SO THAT THEY'RE NOT PARTIES. THEY HAVE AI TECHNOLOGY BUILT WITHIN THE SYSTEM SO THAT IF PEOPLE DO WANT TO CONSIDER HAVING A PARTY OR SOMETHING, WELL, THEY WILL BLOCK THEM. IT WON'T EVEN BE ABLE TO BE ABLE TO GET THE SHORT TERM RENTAL. AND SO A LOT OF THOSE CONCERNS, WE HAVE HAD THIS PROPERTY 30 YEARS AND WE'VE HAD ALL TYPES OF RENTALS FROM DOCTORS AND NURSES, 30 DAYS MORE TO SHORT TERM RENTAL TO HAVING LONG ONE FIVE YEAR TENANTS. AND THE PROPERTY LOOKS BETTER WHEN WE HAVE SHORT TERM RENTALS BECAUSE WITH HAVING TENANTS LIVING WITH FAMILIES THERE, THEY HAVE NOT KEPT UP THE PROPERTY AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD DOESN'T LOOK AS WELL. AND NOW WHEN YOU GO LOOK AT 1725 MONTICELLO, THE AREA LOOKS BEAUTIFUL. SO I JUST WANT TO PROPOSE THAT SHORT TERM RENTALS NOT ONLY IS ABOUT THE WAY IT LOOKS, IT'S REVENUE TO THE CITY, BECAUSE WHEN I LOOKED AT THE NUMBERS ABOUT AIRBNB PULLS TAXES AND THEY SEND IT AS AGGREGATE TAX MONEY TO THE CITY THAT'S BENEFITING, THAT'S A WIN WIN. IT'S A MONEY FOR THE CITY BECAUSE WE PAY HIGH TAXES IN THE CITY OF PETERSBURG, AND IT'S MONEY FOR THE TENANTS OR THE RESIDENTS. SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. THANK YOU. NEXT, MR. JOE BATESON. JOE BATESON, ONE SOUTH SYCAMORE STREET HERE IN PETERSBURG. I WAS AT ALL OF THE MEETINGS FOR THE SHORT TERM RENTAL WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION. I WANT TO SAY THEY HAVE COVERED ALMOST EVERYTHING YOU'VE HEARD FROM THE CONSTITUENTS. AND THEY WORKED HARD. THEY WORKED DILIGENTLY SINCE LAST JULY ON THIS. WE REPEATED MEETINGS OVER AND OVER. AIRBNB HAS ITS ISSUES. AIRBNB CONTINUES TO TRY TO GET RID OF THE ISSUES, PARTIES BEING ONE OF THEM. SO I GIVE THEM A LOT OF CREDIT BECAUSE THEY ARE VERY STRICT ON THAT ISSUE. I BELIEVE THE R-1 HERE IN PETERSBURG IS THE REASON WHY IT WASN'T INCLUDED IS BECAUSE IT COVERS STREETS LIKE HIGH STREET AND DIFFERENT AREAS IN THE CITY THAT DON'T HAVE ADEQUATE PARKING FOR THE EXISTING RESIDENTS. IF R-1 WAS PUT INTO ALLOWING AIRBNBS, THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE SOME KIND OF PARKING REQUIREMENT, OTHERWISE IT WOULD BECOME A BURDEN ON THE NEIGHBORS BECAUSE YOU CAN GET SOMEBODY COMING FROM ONE STATE, SOMEBODY COMING FROM ANOTHER, AND THEY'RE MEETING FOR THEIR ANNUAL GET TOGETHER, AND THAT'S TWO CARS. AND SOME OF THESE STREETS CAN'T HANDLE TWO ADDITIONAL CARS. SO JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND. THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY THE PLANNING COMMISSION DIDN'T GO WITH THE R-1. BUT THE OTHERS, LIKE I SAID, THEY'VE REALLY RUN THROUGH EVERY ASPECT OF IT. AND I THINK THEY DID A GREAT JOB COMING UP WITH THIS. SO I SUPPORT THEIR, YOU KNOW, THEIR ORDINANCE. THANK 
          [01:00:09]
YOU, THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. I HAD NO INTENTION OF SPEAKING ON THIS ISSUE. I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW IT WAS. STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. MY NAME IS CHAIR DANIEL JORDAN, AND I'M AT 427 SOUTH ADAMS STREET. YEAH, LIKE I SAID, I WASN'T. I HAD NO INTENTIONS. MY FIRST TIME HERE, EVEN DOING ANYTHING LIKE THIS, I WAS COMING FOR SOMETHING ELSE. BUT LISTENING. I'M ACTUALLY OPPOSED TO THE AIRBNBS. IT ALMOST FEELS LIKE I'M NEW. I JUST GOT HERE IN NOVEMBER. I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT PETERSBURG. IT'S ALL NEW TO ME AND I'M LIKE, WHERE AM I AND WHAT AM I DOING? I'M HERE BY MYSELF. SO I'M EXCITED BECAUSE I WAS ABLE TO AFFORD A LITTLE TINY HOME HERE. 
          AND NOW I'M LIKE, WHAT HAVE I DONE? I'M I'M LOOKING AT IT ALMOST FEELS LIKE THE CALIFORNIA GOLD RUSH. IT'S LIKE, HEY, THERE'S MONEY TO BE MADE, NOT THERE'S A HOME TO BE BUILT OR A HOME TO BE LIVED IN. AND I'M HERE TO LIVE IN A HOME, AND I LIVE ON A STREET WHERE THE PARKING IS LIMITED FOR ME. MY LITTLE HOUSING SITUATION IS A DIFFICULT ONE, BUT IT'S ALL I COULD AFFORD AND I WOULD LIKE TO LIVE COMFORTABLY AND QUIETLY AND NOT FEEL LIKE I'M IN LAS VEGAS. 
          AND SO I AM LOOKING AT, I MEAN, YOU GUYS DO WHAT YOU WANT, BUT I'M JUST GIVING MY OPINION. YOU CAN'T CONTROL EVERYTHING. THERE'S A LOT OF LITTLE THINGS THAT I'M HEARING FROM THE RESIDENTS THAT WE SHOULD CONSIDER. PARKING IS ONE I'VE NEVER EVEN THOUGHT OF. GREAT IDEA. YOU KNOW, IT'S SOMETHING YOU PUT IN PLACE. AND NOW HERE'S THIS, THIS, THIS, YOU KNOW, MONSTER. YOU CAN'T CONTROL WHAT PEOPLE DO. AND THE FAMILY THING. I DO LIKE LIVING NEXT DOOR. I LIKE KNOWING MY NEIGHBORS AND SAYING HELLO AND HELPING THEM OUT AND. OH, I KNOW YOU HAD THIS GOING ON. CAN I HELP YOU? I'LL MOW YOUR LAWN. WHATEVER. BUT I CAN'T DO THAT IF IT'S AN AIRBNB. 
          AND I'M NOT SAYING THERE SHOULD BE NONE, BUT IT SHOULD BE SERIOUSLY RESTRICTED BECAUSE FRANKLY, I COULD USE THE MONEY BY MAKING MY LITTLE PLACE AN AIRBNB. AND I THOUGHT ABOUT IT, BUT IT JUST DOESN'T FEEL FAMILY. THIS IS MY HOME AND I LIVE HERE, AND I DON'T WANT TO LIVE NEXT TO SOMEBODY THAT'S THROWING THEIR THING OUT FOR SOMEBODY, ANYBODY AND EVERYBODY TO COME IN. SO IT'S JUST SOMETHING TO CONSIDER. I THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD CONSIDER. I'M NOT LOOKING AT REVENUE. I THINK IN THE FINES AND ALL THAT. I'M LIKE, WHY? IF I HAVE MONEY, I'M GOING TO SPEND IT IN PETERSBURG. SO YOU'RE GETTING YOURS. BUT BOTTOM LINE, I'M THINKING, CONSIDER ALL THE RESIDENTS, ALL THE ISSUES. IT'S HARD TO CONSIDER ALL THE ISSUES BECAUSE THERE'S NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE. I DON'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT THIS, BUT I'D LIKE TO TAKE SOME TIME TO LOOK AT IT AND SEE WHAT HOW WOULD THIS AFFECT US? BUT YEAH, PEOPLE SHOULD BE ABLE TO RENT OUT THEIR PLACES, HAVE A LITTLE BUSINESS, BUT WITHIN REASON LIMIT IT VERY LIMITED. AND LET'S I MEAN, WE'RE NOT POLICING A LOT. I CAN'T WALK MY PUPPY WITHOUT DOGS JUMPING OUT AT US. THAT'S NOT BEING POLICED. 
          I CAN'T GO TO THE PARK WITHOUT THE GRASS THIS HIGH THAT'S NOT BEING POLICED. AND WE SAY, OH, LET'S JUST PUT IT IN PLACE. WELL, LET'S PUT THE STUFF IN PLACE. IT SHOULD BE IN PLACE BEFORE WE START TALKING ABOUT NEW STUFF AND PUTTING STUFF IN PLACE TO GOVERN THAT. THAT'S ALL I GOT TO SAY FOR THAT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, MISS BOB RUDOLPH. OH, I THOUGHT YOU HAD. 
          I'M SORRY. THANK YOU. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SEEING NO OTHER HANDS, THIS PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED. NEXT WE GO TO QUESTIONS FROM MEMBERS OF COUNCIL AT THIS TIME. LET'S START WITH COUNCILWOMAN SMITH LEE. WE USED TO HAVE BED AND BREAKFASTS HERE. I KNOW ONE WAS ON HIGH STREET BECAUSE I STAYED IN IT WHEN MY GIRLFRIEND GOT MARRIED. AND THEN IT WAS ONE RIGHT HERE ABOUT THREE DOORS DOWN ON WASHINGTON STREET. AM I RIGHT? HOWARD IS GONE, BUT I'VE STAYED IN AIRBNBS AND I'M TELLING YOU, THEY'RE BETTER THAN THE HOTEL FOR SURE. MATTER OF FACT, I JUST STAYED IN ONE MAYBE ABOUT THREE WEEKS AGO, AND IT WAS WELL KEPT AND WELL REGULATED. I ALSO HAVE A GIRLFRIEND THAT HAS A CONDO AND SHE RENTS IT OUT TO TRAVELING NURSES AND DOCTORS. SO. THEY ARE POPULAR RIGHT NOW. I MEAN, NOT EVERYBODY WANTS TO STAY IN A HOTEL. SO. YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOU WANT IT TO BE R-1, BUT THE BOARD SAYS NO. IS THAT RIGHT, NAOMI? BECAUSE OF THE PARKING. 
          [01:05:11]
SO, YES, THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS BEHIND ME ARE ASKING FOR AN R-1. THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS TALKED ABOUT THIS PROJECT FOR THE LAST YEAR. A LOT OF THE R-1 IN THE CITY IS ACTUALLY LOCATED SOUTH OF 85. IN OUR IN OUR DIFFERENT ZONING DISTRICTS, THOSE ARE LARGER, LOT LARGER SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. I BELIEVE THE INTENT IS TO PRESERVE THE SINGLE FAMILY CHARACTER OF THOSE COMMUNITIES. OKAY, SO I STAYED IN AN AIRBNB IN RICHMOND ON THE NORTH SIDE, AND NONE OF THOSE HOUSES HAVE LIKE DRIVEWAYS. THEY THEY ALL PARK ON THE STREET. IS THAT THE BIGGEST ISSUE? PARKING? I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WAS THE BIGGEST ISSUE. BUT JOE BATESON DID ATTEND, SO I GUESS IT WAS A CONSIDERATION. BUT REALLY THEY'RE LOOKING AT THE HIGHER DENSITY ZONING DISTRICTS WHERE IT MAY BE MORE CONSISTENT. YOU'RE GETTING MORE DUPLEXES, TRIPLEXES, YOU'RE GETTING A LITTLE MORE VARIETY IN THE DENSITY AND CHARACTER OF THE COMMUNITY. SO I THINK IT JUST WAS ASSUMED THAT THAT'S WHERE THEY ARE, AND THAT'S WHERE THEY THEY'LL INTEGRATE AS WELL. OKAY. 
          OKAY. COUNCILMAN JONES. YES, THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. HOW ARE YOU DOING? I'M DOING WELL, THANKS. ALL RIGHT. A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. TELL ME THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THESE RENTAL UNITS AND HOTELS. YEAH. SO I KNOW THAT COUNCIL MEMBER SMITH MENTIONED A BED AND BREAKFAST. 
          WE DO ALLOW BED AND BREAKFAST WITH A SPECIAL USE PERMIT. IT'S REGULATED AS A SEPARATE USE. 
          IT'S ONLY ALLOWED IN OUR HIGHER DENSITY DISTRICTS R3, R4, R5 AND OUR BE HAS LIMITS ON CAPACITY, NUMBER OF PEOPLE PER UNIT PARKING SPACES NEEDS A MANAGER ON THE PREMISES HAS ASSIGNED REQUIREMENTS, AND ALSO MAKE SURE THAT OTHER REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE DEEMED NECESSARY BY COUNCIL AND PLANNING COMMISSION ARE IN PLACE FOR A HOTEL. THESE ESTABLISHMENTS ARE MORE THAN 30 DAYS, SO WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT A HOTEL, IT'S 30 PLUS. OH, EXCUSE ME, EXCUSE ME, I WAS. 
          EXCUSE ME. YEAH, I HAD TO TWIST IT AROUND. SO FOR AIRBNBS LESS THAN 30 DAYS, I WAS THINKING THE TRAVELING NURSES, THEY HAVE A TENDENCY TO COME IN FOR MORE THAN 30 DAYS. THAT'S TREATED AS A STANDARD RENTAL IN THE CITY. IF SOMEONE'S RENTING A HOUSE AND THEY'RE RENTING FOR 30 DAYS, IT'S JUST LIKE YOU'RE HAVING A LEASE AGREEMENT WITH THE HOUSE APARTMENT. I MEAN, HOTELS REQUIRE STAFF, THEY REQUIRE SERVICES, THEY REQUIRE DIFFERENT INFORMATION LIKE THAT. SO IT'S NOT ALONG THE SAME LINES AS AN AIRBNB THAT'S AT SOMEONE'S HOUSE. OKAY. MY NEXT QUESTION IS WHAT'S THE IMPACT ON THE COMMUNITY HOUSING STOCK. SURE. SO THERE ARE DIFFERENT WAYS THIS CAN BE SUPPORTED. BUT AGAIN, AS WE MENTIONED, PLANNING COMMISSION HAS BEEN LOOKING AT THIS FOR ENTIRE YEAR. RIGHT NOW. AIRBNBS EXIST. THEY'RE JUST NOT REGULATED. SO I WANT TO BE CLEAR, LIKE WE HAVE AIRBNBS IN PETERSBURG RIGHT NOW. WE JUST DIDN'T HAVE REGULATIONS IN PLACE. IT'S TAKING US A LONG TIME. WE'VE BEEN HOPING TO GET REGULATIONS IN PLACE TO HELP US ENFORCE AIRBNBS, BUT THEY EXIST, SO WE ARE CURRENTLY LIVING IN A WORLD OF SHORT TERM RENTALS. 
          THIS IS GOING TO HELP US CREATE A REGISTRY AND UNDERSTAND WHERE THEY ARE, AND TO BENEFIT FROM TAXATION OF THEM AS WELL. SO RIGHT NOW, IF YOU'RE SEEING IMPACTS OF THE HOUSING STOCK IN THE CITY, IT'S EXISTING CURRENTLY. THIS ISN'T CREATED TO STIMULATE MORE AIRBNBS. IT'S TO REGULATE WHAT WE HAVE ALREADY. WELL, I APPRECIATE APPRECIATE REGULATING THAT. BUT I'VE TALKED TO MY CONSTITUENTS, ESPECIALLY IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THEY ARE TOTALLY AGAINST HAVING AIRBNBS OR ANYTHING AS SUCH IN THAT AREA. SOME PEOPLE ARE HERE TO JUST LIVE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE JUST WANT TO LIVE IN A DECENT NEIGHBORHOOD. AND WHERE I COME FROM, WE KNOW OUR NEIGHBORS, YOU KNOW, BUT EVERY SIX MONTHS YOU DON'T KNOW WHO'S MOVING IN, YOU KNOW, OR WHAT YOU GOT UP IN THERE. YOU KNOW, WE GOT TO PROTECT OUR KIDS AND WE GOT TO PROTECT OUR SENIORS. BUT IF YOU DON'T KNOW, YOU DON'T KNOW. SO I'M SAYING THAT BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO COMMERCIALIZE OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. SO MY NEXT QUESTION IS. HOW DOES THIS AFFECT THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE WHEN YOU ARE ENFORCING THE BUILDING CODES AND THE SAFETY CODES VERSUS THE STANDARDS FOR THE HOTELS AND THE COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS? SURE. SO PERTAINING TO OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, AGAIN, I'LL JUST REITERATE, THEY EXIST NOW. SO WE ARE EXPERIENCING WHAT IT'S LIKE TO LIVE IN A WORLD WITH A SHORT TERM RENTAL. CURRENTLY, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ESTABLISH IS THE REGULATIONS THAT I PRESENTED TO YOU BRIEFLY, MAKING SURE PEOPLE ARE TAKING OUT THE TRASH, MAKING SURE THEY HAVE FIRE EXTINGUISHERS AND FIRE SAFETY MECHANISMS THEY'RE GOING TO BE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE TO STAFF A FLOOR PLAN SHOWING THE LAYOUT OF THE BEDROOMS, WHERE THEY HAVE FIRE ALARMS AND SO FORTH. IF THEY DON'T COMPLY WITH THOSE REQUIREMENTS, WE'RE ABLE TO 
          [01:10:03]
SUBMIT TO THEM VIOLATIONS. AND WE'VE ESTABLISHED THIS ALL IN THE SHORT TERM RENTAL GUIDELINES. WE CAN GET THEM VIOLATIONS FOR EACH DIFFERENT FACTOR THAT THEY'RE NOT MEETING. 
          ONCE THEY HIT THREE VIOLATIONS, WE'RE ABLE TO REVOKE THEIR SHORT TERM RENTAL APPROVAL THAT THEY HAVE WITH US, AND THEY CAN'T SUBMIT AGAIN FOR AN ENTIRE YEAR. SO IT'S IN EVERYONE'S BEST INTEREST TO ENSURE THE SAFETY MEASURES ARE IN PLACE. TRASH IS BEING ADDRESSED AND THE CHARACTER OF THE AREA IS IN THE BEST SHAPE IT CAN BE. SO THAT BRINGS ME TO MY NEXT ONE. I ONLY GOT TWO MORE. THIS IS ON THE FIRE SAFETY AND POLICE SAFETY. START WITH POLICE FIRST. WHEN HOTELS. LET ME REPHRASE THAT. HOTELS HAVE TO PROVIDE A GUEST REGISTRY TO THE POLICE UPON REQUEST, UPON LEGAL REQUEST AND UPON REQUEST. PERIOD. HOW WAS THAT? HOW WOULD THE THESE PLACES HAVE TO DO THAT WITHOUT POLICE DEPARTMENT? OH, THAT IS A GREAT QUESTION. I MEAN, I WILL SAY BASICALLY A GUEST REGISTRY, RIGHT? I MEAN, AIRBNB HAS PEOPLE ALL THESE SERVICES HAVE PEOPLE SUBMIT THEIR INFORMATION AND GET APPLICATIONS AND KNOW THOSE DETAILS. WE ARE GOING TO BE WORKING WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THEIR CONTACT 24 OVER SEVEN. THEY ARE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE US THEIR ACCURATE INFORMATION FOR ANY EMERGENCIES THAT OCCUR. SO. SO WHAT COUNCILMAN JONES IS TALKING ABOUT IS A BUCKET CHECK. THERE'S STATUTORY AUTHORITY FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT TO GO IN AND CHECK THE REGISTER OF A HOTEL TO DETERMINE WHO'S STAYING IN THAT HOTEL AT ANY PARTICULAR GIVEN MOMENT. I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY PARALLEL STATUTORY AUTHORITY WITH REGARD TO THESE SHORT TERM RENTALS. SO THE ANSWER TO THE QUESTION THERE WOULD NOT BE THE ABILITY TO KNOW WHO'S ACTUALLY STAYING IN THAT PROPERTY AT THAT MOMENT, LIKE YOU WOULD IN A HOTEL. IT'S NOT THERE YET. YEAH. SORRY TO BUTT IN. I'M JARED, I'M THE PLANNING MANAGER WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT. I JUST WANTED TO TOUCH QUICKLY ON THAT POINT. AS PART OF THE REGISTRATION PROCESS, YOU WOULD BE REQUIRED TO DESIGNATE WHAT WE'RE CALLING A RESPONSIBLE PARTY. SO THAT'S SOMEONE WITH, YOU KNOW, COMMITTING TO 24 OVER SEVEN AVAILABILITY SHOULD THE CITY NEED TO REACH THEM, SHOULD AN EMERGENCY ARISE, SHOULD SOME MAINTENANCE ISSUE ARISE? HE'S TALKING ABOUT THE GUESTS. THAT'S WHAT HE BUCKET CHECK IS FOR THE GUESTS. THIS WOULD BE AMONG THE GUESTS. YOU DESIGNATE A CONTACT PARTY. BUT. RIGHT? YES, SIR. MR. SAFETY AGAIN? BECAUSE THEY'RE DOING THE SAME THING HOTELS ARE DOING IS JUST LEASING AS IF WE'RE LEASING A HOUSE. RIGHT. 
          BUT HOTELS ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE FIRE ALARMS AND SPRINKLERS AND ALL OF THAT STUFF. AND I'M SAYING IT'S BECAUSE OF THE SAFETY WE JUST SAW. A YOUNG MAN HAD TO GO IN AND SAVE HIS SIBLINGS. SO WITH AIRBNB, THAT INCREASES THE CHANCES OF FIRES. ISSUES IN THE HOME, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S A HISTORIC HOME AND NOBODY'S TAKING CARE OF IT. AND I'M SURE THE OWNER OF THE HISTORIC HOME DON'T WANT ANYBODY IN THERE. SO IS THERE ANY PARAMETERS? AND ALSO, I'VE WITNESSED PEOPLE LOCKING THEIR DOORS IN A FOUR BEDROOM HOUSE. THEY WOULD PUT LOCKS ON THEIR DOORS TO KEEP SOMEBODY FROM COMING IN. SO HAS ANYTHING BEEN THOUGHT ABOUT? YEAH. SO WHEN SOMEONE SUBMITS TO THE CITY OF PETERSBURG TO REGISTER THEIR ESTABLISHMENT, THEY ARE REQUIRED TO SUBMIT INFORMATION ON FIRE EXTINGUISHERS, LOCATION OF CARBON MONOXIDE ALARMS, EMERGENCY EGRESS AND RESCUE OPENINGS. WE'RE REQUIRING THEM TO SUBMIT WITH THEIR APPLICATION A FLOOR PLAN SHOWING EACH ROOM OCCUPANCY, LEVEL OF SLEEPING ROOMS, COOKING FACILITIES, LOCATION AND SIZE OF EMERGENCY EGRESS AND RESCUE OPENINGS, AND LOCATION OF FIRE AND CARBON MONOXIDE DETECTORS. IF ANYONE'S EVER DETERMINED TO NOT BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THIS OR ANY OTHER STANDARDS I'VE SHARED WITH YOU, THEY WILL RECEIVE VIOLATIONS ASSOCIATED WITH THESE. EVERYONE'S ALSO REQUIRED TO RENEW EVERY YEAR. SO EVERY YEAR WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BE CHECKING WITH PEOPLE THEIR ROOM, THEIR OCCUPANCY, THEIR INGRESS AND EGRESS AND SO FORTH. THEY ONLY LAST ONE. WILL THERE BE AN OCCUPANCY LOAD PER ROOM THAT'S BEING RENTED OUT, MEANING SOMEBODY CAN COME AND STAY WITH THEIR WHOLE FAMILY, LIKE EVEN HOTELS, SAY TWO PERSONS PER ROOM OR WHATEVER. WE DO HAVE A LIMIT. FOR ONE, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MEET OCCUPANCY STANDARDS, BUT WE DO HAVE A LIMIT OF SIX UNRELATED GUESTS TO BE IN A IN A ESTABLISHMENT AT ONE TIME. 
          THAT'S AN ESTABLISHMENT. BUT IF THEY'RE RENTING ROOMS. I THINK NOT TO INTERRUPT YOU RENTING INDIVIDUAL ROOMS LIKE A ROOMING HOUSE. THIS THAT ISN'T A SHORT TERM RENTAL IN THIS INSTANCE, THAT'S THAT'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING DIFFERENT IN RENTING INDIVIDUAL ROOMS. SHORT TERM 
          [01:15:04]
RENTALS ARE MORE AROUND RENTING THE HOUSE TO I MEAN, JUST FOR AN INSTANCE, WHEN MY DAUGHTER GRADUATED DOWN AT CAMPBELL, WE RENTED AN AIRBNB, SO WE RENTED A HOUSE, AND WHEN IT WAS JUST OUR FAMILY THAT WERE THERE AND WE WERE THERE OVERNIGHT FOR THE GRADUATION AND THEN WE LEFT. SO I THINK THAT'S MORE A LOT OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE, NOT SOMEONE RENTING INDIVIDUAL ROOMS WITHIN A HOUSE LIKE YOU WOULD HAVE, SAY, A BOARDING HOUSE. SO I'M GLAD YOU SAID THAT. SO HOW DO YOU PREVENT THAT FROM HAPPENING? I LIKE THAT ONE. SO THIS IS TO WORK WITH. WE HAVE LIMITS. WE HAVE OCCUPANCY LIMITS. WE HAVE LESS THAN 30 DAY LIMITS. WE HAVE SIX MOST UNRELATED PEOPLE IN A HOUSE AT ONE TIME. LIMITS. WE'RE ESTABLISHING A LOT OF RESTRICTIONS THAT ARE MAKING IT. SO THIS IS DEEMED A SHORT TERM RENTAL AND NOT A BOARDING HOUSE. 
          WE HAVE SEPARATE DEFINITIONS THAT GO WITH BOARDING HOUSES. WE'RE WORKING WITH MEMBERS OF COUNCIL TO ENFORCE THOSE BASED ON UNRELATED OCCUPANCY. SO THIS IS REGULATED SEPARATELY. WHO'S GOING TO ENFORCE ALL THIS? WHO'S GOING TO CHECK ON ALL THESE LIMITS. AND I ALREADY KNOW YOU NEED MORE PEOPLE DON'T YOU? I'M GOING TO SAY WE'VE BEEN WORKING REALLY WELL WITH COMMUNITY COUNCIL MEMBER CUTHBERT, HIS CONSTITUENTS, OTHER MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY. THEY'VE BEEN COMING TO US WHEN THEY'VE BEEN SEEING OVER OCCUPANCY AND ESTABLISHMENTS AND SO FORTH. 
          ALSO, THE ANNUAL RENEWALS IS GOING TO BE REALLY HELPFUL. AGAIN, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE PEOPLE COME BACK TO US EVERY TIME WITH THEIR NEW FLOOR PLAN. AND I MEAN, IF THERE IS EVER AN ISSUE, PEOPLE KNOW TO REACH OUT TO US AND WE'RE OUT THERE TO HELP. GREAT WORK, AND I APPRECIATE YOU. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THANKS. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, COUNCILOR CUTLER. 
          THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I THINK COUNCILMAN JONES MADE A REALLY GOOD POINT. MANY REALLY GOOD POINTS. BUT ONE OF THEM I WANT TO UNDERSCORE, AND THAT IS THE COMMERCIALIZATION OF OUR RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS THAT CONCERNS ME GREATLY. WE ALREADY HAVE A SUFFERING FROM AN ONSLAUGHT, ONSLAUGHT, ONSLAUGHT OF GROUP HOMES. IN THE PAST WEEK, I SUBMITTED A FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT REQUEST TO THE DEPARTMENT OF BEHAVIORAL HEALTH AND THE SUBSTANCE ABUSE, AND ASKED FOR A LIST OF ALL GROUP HOMES IN 2803 AND 2805, AND THEY SENT ME A LIST OF OVER 50. NOW, SOME OF THOSE ARE ADMITTEDLY IN DINWIDDIE OR IN CHESTERFIELD, BUT THE HUGE LION'S SHARE IS IN PETERSBURG. AND IT'S A REAL PROBLEM FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. I KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, IN THE FOURTH WARD, EAST TUCKAHOE HAS EITHER 2 OR 3 GROUP HOMES WITHIN A ONE BLOCK AREA. ALSO, THE WARD WHERE COUNCILMAN ARNOLD WESTBROOK LIVES. THERE'S A STREET OUT THERE THAT'S GOT THREE GROUP HOMES ON IT. IT'S AND THERE'S NO WAY TO LIMIT THAT CONCENTRATION. OUR HANDS ARE TIED BY THE STATE LEGISLATURE. SO AT THE SAME TIM, I UNDERSTAND THE BENEFITS OF ALLOWING SHORT TERM RENTALS. AND SO IN THAT CONTEXT, I HAVE A MOTION I'D LIKE TO READ. IF IT'S COMPLICATED, I'M GOING TO BLAME IT ON THE CITY ATTORNEY BECAUSE HE TOLD ME THAT TO MAKE IT LEGAL, WE HAD TO HAVE SOME PROVISOS IN IT. OKAY, SO LET ME JUST READ IT TO YOU. AND THIS IS MY MOTION. I MOVE THAT COUNCIL APPROVE THE ORDINANCE AS PROPOSED. THAT'S THE SIMPLE PART. WITH A SINGLE AMENDMENT THAT SHORT TERM RENTALS BE ALLOWED ONLY WITH A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, EXCEPT WHEN THE PROPERTY IS OCCUPIED AS THE OWNER'S PRIMARY RESIDENCE, IN WHICH CASE NO SPECIAL USE PERMIT SHALL BE REQUIRED. SO APPROVED THE ORDINANCE AS PROPOSED. ADD ON A SPECIAL USE PERMIT REQUIREMENT, EXCEPT WHEN THE PROPERTY IS OCCUPIED AS THE OWNER'S PRIMARY RESIDENCE. SO I THINK THAT'S A FAIR BALANCE. IT AND IT GIVES US THE OPPORTUNITY ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS TO DECIDE AS A COUNCIL WHETHER TO APPROVE THAT PARTICULAR SHORT TERM RENTAL OR NOT. IF THE CONCENTRATION GETS TOO GREAT IN A NEIGHBORHOOD, WE CAN SAY NO OR WE CAN SAY YES, BUT IT GIVES US THE FLEXIBILITY TO MINIMIZE THE INCURSION AND IMPOSITION AND DAMAGE TO OUR RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS. IF WE CARE TO EXERCISE THAT THAT POWER. SO LET ME GO BACK. LET ME READ IT AGAIN. I MOVE THAT COUNCIL APPROVED THE ORDINANCE AS PROPOSED WITH A SINGLE AMENDMENT, THAT SHORT TERM 
          [01:20:02]
RENTALS BE ALLOWED ONLY WITH A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, EXCEPT WHEN THE PROPERTY IS OCCUPIED AS THE OWNER'S PRIMARY RESIDENCE, IN WHICH CASE NO SPECIAL USE PERMIT SHALL BE REQUIRED. COULD I GET SOME CLARIFICATION ON THAT DEFINITION OF OWNER OCCUPIED? IS IT GOOD IF WE WORK WITH LIKE THE DMV DEFINITION, LIKE IT IS THEIR DRIVER'S LICENSE ADDRESS? THEY'RE IN IT 185 DAYS OF THE YEAR. IF WE'RE WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT DEFINITION IS, WHICH I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FIGURE THAT OUT OUTSIDE OF THE ORDINANCE. THAT'S STRAIGHT OUT OF THE STATUTE. SO GREAT THAT LANGUAGE THAT HE'S QUOTING IS OUT OF THE STATUTE. YOU DON'T. SO JUST PERFECT. 
          THANK YOU. ANOTHER QUESTION. IS GREAT. ONE OTHER THING, IF THAT'S THE DIRECTION YOU ALL ARE LEANING, WE DID SET A DEADLINE FOR REGISTRATION OF OCTOBER 1ST. SO IF WE DO REQUIRE SPECIAL USE PERMITS, THAT'S ESSENTIALLY SETTING AN IMPOSSIBLE DEADLINE. NO ONE WOULD HAVE TIME TO SUBMIT. GET THROUGH BOTH THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND COUNCIL HEARINGS. SO JUST MAYBE IF YOU ALL COULD CONSIDER A, YOU KNOW, JANUARY 1ST, 2026 DEADLINE, SOMETHING THAT JUST BUILDS IN A LITTLE BIT MORE BUFFER WITH WITH NO AUGUST MEETINGS, THAT JUST MAKES IT A CHALLENGE TO, SAYS THE DEADLINE PART OF THE ORDINANCE. IT IS AMENDMENT. I MEAN, THE DEADLINE IS JUST FOR THEM TO IDENTIFY. THEY'VE PREVIOUSLY BEEN OPERATING SHORT TERM RENTAL, RIGHT. SO IT'S PHRASED AS REGISTRATION. SO I GUESS IF WE DEFINE REGISTRATION AS APPLYING FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT. YEAH. SO THE SO THE IMPOSITION OF THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT REQUIREMENT DOESN'T APPLY IF YOU'VE PREVIOUSLY BEEN OPERATING AND YOU'VE REGISTERED. SO THE DATE REALLY SHOULDN'T BE AFFECTED. I DO WANT TO CLARIFY THAT. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SAYING, THAT PEOPLE CAN REGISTER IF THEY CURRENTLY EXIST WITHOUT A SPECIAL USE PERMIT. AND THEN WE'RE ESTABLISHING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT REQUIREMENT BY THE OCTOBER 1ST DATE. RIGHT. AND THOSE PEOPLE WHO'VE BEEN WHO'VE BEEN OPERATING, WHO'VE REGISTERED PRIOR TO THAT DATE WOULD BE GRANDFATHERED PRIOR TO THE ORDINANCE. THEREFORE, THE SPECIAL USE REQUIREMENT WOULD APPLY. SO DOESN'T DOESN'T IMPACT THEM. HELPFUL. THANKS. OKAY. COUNCILMAN JONES, I SECOND THAT MOTION. ALL RIGHT. MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? OKAY. SEEING NONE. LET'S HEAR. CAN YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL COUNCIL MEMBER CUTHBERT? AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER. JONES. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER. MYERS. NO. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER. SMITH. LEE. NO. MAYOR. PAIR. AYE. GREAT. THANK YOU ALL FOR WORKING WITH US ON THAT, I APPRECIATE THAT. THANKS. AT THIS TIME, I NEED TO SKIP DOWN TO THE AGENDA. WE HAVE AN 
          [14. New Business (Part 1 of 2)]
ELECTION GOING ON AND WE HAVE MR. BONNER BACK THERE. AND HE HAS TO GET READY TO START COUNTING SOME VOTES. SO LET'S LET'S GO TO HIS ITEM, WHICH IS ITEM 14 A MR. BONNER, YOU DROPPED SOME ON THE FLOOR. YEAH. RIGHT. WHICH IS ITEM 14 A FIRST READING SCHEDULE, A PUBLIC HEARING FOR AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND AND RE ADOPT SECTION 46 DASH 92 OF THE CITY CODE TO CHANGE THE POLLING PLACE FOR THE FIRST WARD TO LAKEMONT PUBLIC HEARING CONSIDERATION FOR ADOPTION HELD ON JULY 1ST. MR. WILLIAMS. YES. MAYOR. HONORABLE MAYOR. MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, YOU GOT AN ITEM? THIS IS BEING TAKEN OUT OF CYCLE BECAUSE THE REGISTRAR AND THE ELECTORAL BOARD HAS REQUESTED EXPEDITED REVIEW OF THIS. SO TONIGHT IT'S JUST A FIRST READING OF THIS ITEM. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING IN ADVANCE OF OUR NEXT MEETING IN WHICH HOPEFULLY THIS WILL BE ADOPTED. BUT IT'S A PROPOSAL TO MOVE THE POLLING PLACE FROM FOR WARD ONE FROM BLANDFORD TO LAKEMONT. AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS THE RECENT REDISTRICTING THAT WAS REQUIRED. THE DECENNIAL REDISTRICTING ACTUALLY MOVED BLANDFORD OUTSIDE OF WARD ONE. 
          IT'S A LITTLE LESS THAN A MILE OUTSIDE OF WARD ONE, BUT IT'S NO LONGER LOCATED IN WARD ONE, SO WE WANT THE WARD ONE POLLING PLACE TO BE IN WARD ONE. SO THEY'VE ACTUALLY GONE OUT. 
          THEY'VE GOTTEN AN MOU WITH LAKE OAKMONT TO FACILITATE THIS, AND THEY'VE DONE EVERYTHING NECESSARY TO GET IT TO THIS POINT. IF COUNCIL ULTIMATELY APPROVES THIS ORDINANCE, I'LL HAVE TO SEND THIS OFF TO THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE TO GET WHAT'S KNOWN AS AN RCN. OH, IT'S A REQUEST FOR CERTIFICATION OF NO OBJECTION, AND THAT CAN TAKE UP TO 60 DAYS. SO EVEN AFTER COUNCIL ADOPTS THIS, IT COULD BE 60 DAYS BEFORE THEY CAN ACTUALLY MOVE THE POLLING PLACE, WHICH IS WHY THEY'RE TRYING TO MOVE IT SO QUICKLY, BECAUSE THERE ARE TIME LIMITATIONS WITHIN WHICH THEY 
          [01:25:01]
HAVE TO HAVE IT DONE IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO USE THAT POLLING PLACE IN THE NEXT ELECTION. BUT I'LL TURN IT OVER TO THEM IF THEY HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL. YES. YOU KNOW, AS WE BEEN DOING THIS FOR OVER A YEAR NOW TO TRY TO MOVE THIS POLLING PLACE, AND THEN ONCE WE WAS REDISTRICTED TO ME. SO WE HAD TO STEP IT UP A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE OF THE ADA RESTRICTIONS OVER AT BLANDFORD ACADEMY. WE NEEDED TO MOVE THAT FROM THE FRONT TO THE BACK AND WE COULDN'T DO THAT. BUT LAKEMONT HAVE ALL THE FACILITIES THAT WE NEED TO MOVE THE POLLING PLACE, SO THAT'S WHY WE ARE APPLYING TO MOVE TO LAKEMONT, BECAUSE IT HAS EVERYTHING WE NEED RIGHT NOW. WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF ELECTION RIGHT THIS MINUTE AS WE SPEAK. SO THAT'S WHY OUR REGISTRAR HAD TO LEAVE BECAUSE SHE'S ALMOST AT THE END OF THE ELECTION. SHE GOT TO BE THERE. SO WE'RE ASKING YOU TO CONSIDER MOVING THIS POLLING PLACE. WE GOT OUR MOU AND ALL THAT IN PLACE RIGHT NOW. SO ALL WE'RE WAITING ON NOW IS YOUR APPROVAL TO MOVE IT TO THE NEW LOCATION. OKAY. PERFECT. THANK YOU. SO WE HAVE IN THE PUBLIC HEARING TODAY, MR. WILLIAMS, ARE WE GOING TO NOTICE THIS IS JUST THE FIRST READING? YOUR PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE AT OUR NEXT MEETING. AND AT THAT MEETING, YOU'LL TAKE THE VOTE AND HOPEFULLY ADOPT THE ORDINANCE. OKAY. SO WE CAN CALL A SPECIAL MEETING TO ADOPT THIS AT OUR WORK SESSION ON JULY 1ST. ALRIGHTY. THANKS. THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. THANK YOU. WE HAVE TO LEAVE. ALL RIGHT. SO. SO. HELLO, MR. BONNER. SO GOOD TO SEE YOU. 
          GOD BLESS YOU. YEAH. THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO. YOU GOT A LOT OF WORK TO DO TONIGHT, SO. ALL RIGHT, WE APPRECIATE YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. PERFECT. ALL RIGHT. AND AT THIS TIME AS WELL, WHILE WE I'M GOING TO SKIP DOWN TO ITEM 14 C BEFORE I COME BACK TO OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS, I WANT TO GIVE MR. DAVID ROSE HOME BEFORE MIDNIGHT TONIGHT. SO I'M GONNA I'M GOING TO SKIP TO ITEM C, WHICH IS THE MULTI-YEAR STRATEGIC PLAN FINANCE UPDATE. MR. ROSE. GOOD. GOOD EVENING. 
          GOOD EVENING. MAYOR. THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT. I APPRECIATE IT, BUT PLEASED AND PROUD TO BE HERE TONIGHT. WE'VE GOT UP ON THE SCREEN FOR EVERYONE HERE. WHAT'S IDENTICAL TO WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE SEEING THAT'S BEING HANDED OUT BY THE CITY MANAGER. OKAY OKAY. LET ME SEE IF THIS CLICKER IS OKAY. OKAY. MAYOR, AGAIN APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE. A COUPLE OF MY COLLEAGUES ARE WITH ME, BEN WILSON, AS WELL AS A SUMMER INTERN, HARRISON MONETTE. SO HE IS GETTING TO WATCH WHAT HAPPENS WITH GOVERNMENT AT ITS BEST. AGAIN. I'M HERE TONIGHT, AS PLANNED, TO TALK ABOUT WHAT WE CALL THE MULTIYEAR STRATEGIC PLAN OF FINANCE. THIS IS AS A RESULT OF WHAT HAPPENED, OF COURSE, OVER THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS. AND YOU CAN SEE THERE IN THE BACKGROUND, I THINK WE DON'T NEED TO BELABOR THE FACT THAT, OF COURSE, THERE WAS A VERY SUCCESSFUL. VOTE THAT TAKEN AND THAT THE CORDISH COMPANIES ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH THE CASINO PROJECT. WE THEN WORKED WITH CHIMERA ECONOMICS AND ANALYTICS. THEY DO NOT WORK FOR US. THEY ARE INDEPENDENT OF US, OF COURSE, BUT WHEN I SAY WE WORK WITH THEM, WE WERE ABLE TO REVIEW AND SEE ALL OF THE ASSUMPTIONS THAT THEY MADE BY VIRTUE OF THEIR INTERACTING WITH CORDISH AS WELL AS OURSELVES, TO TRY TO UNDERSTAND THE REVENUES THAT WILL BE COMING TO THE CASINO PROJECT TO THE CITY. 
          THIRD BULLET POINT THERE IS VERY IMPORTANT. THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE, IS BECAUSE THE CITY HAS IDENTIFIED AT LEAST $250 MILLION OF CAPITAL PROJECTS, THE MAJORITY OF WHICH ARE GOING TO BE FUNDED OR NEEDED TO BE DONE IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS. I WOULD POINT OUT TO EVERYONE THAT'S LISTENING, WE ARE NOT IN THE BUSINESS OF RECOMMENDING WHAT PROJECTS YOU DO, THE SIZE OF YOUR PROJECTS. THAT'S NOT WHAT WE ARE DOING TONIGHT. RATHER, ALL WE ARE DOING IS TO TAKE WHAT HAS BEEN GIVEN TO US BY THE CITY STAFF AND TO SAY, HOW CAN WE OR CAN WE RESPONSIBLY DO A PLAN OF FINANCE THAT TAKES CARE OF SOME $250 MILLION OF PROJECTS WHILE KEEPING WHAT WE CALL BEST PRACTICES FINANCIALLY? SO WITH THAT SAID, THE FOLKS AT SHIMURA LOOKED AT THE REVENUES OF THE 
          [01:30:07]
CASINO OVER THE NEXT DECADE. OBVIOUSLY, IF ALL GOES WELL, REVENUES WILL BE BEYOND THAT. 
          BUT WE LOOKED AT THOSE REVENUES SOLELY IN THE NEXT DECADE TO FIGURE OUT, CAN WE FUND SOME $250 MILLION OF PROJECTS? SO IN DOING THAT, THAT SECOND BULLET, THERE'S REALLY TWO PARTS TO THE REVENUES THAT THE CITY EXPECTS. THE FIRST PART IS WHAT WE CALL THE GUARANTEED PAYMENTS FROM CORDISH. THESE ARE PAYMENTS THAT ARE NOT BASED UPON VARIOUS TAXES. THESE ARE ACTUAL PAYMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN NEGOTIATED BY THE CITY TO COME IN OVER THE NEXT EIGHT YEARS. AND THERE'S A CERTAIN SCHEDULE, AND I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU THAT IN A MOMENT. THESE ARE NOT TIED TO CERTAIN LEVELS OF FUNDING. THE SECOND, THOUGH, ARE THE ONGOING REVENUES. AND THEY COME FROM, AS YOU CAN SEE THERE, GAMING, MEALS, LODGING, SALES, REAL ESTATE, ETC. AND THOSE RANGE BASED UPON CORDISH FROM 8 MILLION IN FISCAL YEAR 26 UPWARD TO 26 MILLION ABOUT FISCAL YEAR 2035. SO WHAT WE DID AS YOUR FINANCIAL ADVISOR TO MAKE SURE THAT WE UNDERSTAND ALL OF THIS, WAS TO DISCOUNT THOSE REVENUES. AND I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU WHAT WE DID IN TERMS OF HOW WE DISCOUNTED THEM. SO FIRST OFF, WE DID NOT DISCOUNT THE GUARANTEED PAYMENTS, BUT WE ARE GOING TO LOOK AT STRATEGIES TO TAKE CARE OF CAPITAL NEEDS BY DOING THAT. ONLY AFTER THOSE DOLLARS ACTUALLY COME INTO THE CITY COFFERS. THAT'S AN IMPORTANT POINT HERE. ONLY AFTER THOSE GUARANTEED DOLLARS COME IN. SO IF THEY COME IN ON TIME, YOU'LL SEE HOW WE'RE RECOMMENDING YOU TAKE CARE OF CAPITAL PROGRAMS. BUT IF THEY STOP, FOR WHATEVER REASON, WE WILL THEN TALK ABOUT HOW WE CAN THEN STOP INVESTING IN CAPITAL. SO THE GOAL HERE IS TO ALWAYS BE IN A CASH STRONG POSITION FOR THE CITY. SECOND, IT WAS ANNUAL REVENUES, FISCAL YEAR 26. LOOK ACROSS THE WAY AND YOU CAN SEE THAT BETWEEN SALES AND BEANPOLE AND REAL ESTATE, ALL TOLD, THERE SHOULD BE ABOUT $8 MILLION IN FISCAL YEAR 26. WE THEN SAID, WHAT IF WE GET 25% LESS, MEANING 75% COMES IN. THAT PROVIDES ABOUT 6 MILLION. BUT THEN WE SAID, WHAT IF WE LOSE 40% OF THOSE REVENUES? AND SO AGAIN, WE'RE JUST A SHADE UNDER 5 MILLION. SO WE HAVE MODELED UP ALL OF THE PLANS AS IF WE GET ALL THE REVENUES, AS IF WE GET 75% OF THE REVENUES, AND AS IF WE GET 60% OF THE REVENUES. AND WE THINK, AGAIN, THIS PARTICULAR APPROACH IS THE WAY TO MAXIMIZE MAKING SURE THE CITY DOES NOT GET IN EFFECT OVER ITS SKIS WHEN IT COMES TO DOING SOME OF THESE INVESTMENTS. SO LET'S TALK ABOUT THE APPROACH. WE'RE GOING TO RECOMMEND THAT OF THE $250 MILLION OF PROJECTS YOU HAVE IDENTIFIED, ONE THIRD OF THAT IS PAID THROUGH CASH PAY AS YOU GO, IF YOU WOULD. SO WE WILL, IN EFFECT, BORROW ONLY TWO THIRDS OF THOSE PROJECTS, ROUGHLY ABOUT 160,000,170 OR SO. THAT'S NOT COINCIDENTAL TO THE 80 MILLION PAY AS YOU GO GUARANTEES. IT'S TIED TO EACH OTHER. SO THE FOCUS THEN IS HOW DO WE DO THIS? HOW DO WE KEEP YOU OUT OF TROUBLE, IF YOU WOULD. SO OUR RECOMMENDATION IS NUMBER ONE IS WHEN THAT FIRST $15 MILLION OF PAYMENTS COME IN. AND WE'VE GOT 2 MILLION RIGHT NOW, ANOTHER 13 MILLION EXPECTED THIS FALL IS THAT WE WOULD PUT ALL OF THAT INTO AN EMERGENCY DOWNTURN RESERVE. WE WOULD ACTUALLY SET THAT ASIDE AND HAVE THAT MONEY BE THERE OVER THE NEXT 4 TO 5 YEARS. SO NO MATTER WHAT, WE'LL ALWAYS START WITH ROUGHLY $15 MILLION IN THE BANK FROM CORDISH FIRST PAYMENT. SECOND, WE'RE GOING TO RECOMMEND THAT RATHER THAN IMMEDIATELY START PAYING OUT OF THE NEW DOLLARS THAT COME IN, WE SET UP A LINE OF CREDIT FOR $30 MILLION, AND THAT $30 MILLION WILL BE SET UP IN SUCH A 
          [01:35:10]
WAY THAT AS WE START TO GET PROJECTS SPENT, WE WILL USE THOSE GUARANTEED PAYMENTS. AND YOU'LL SEE THIS IN A MOMENT TO PAY OFF THAT LINE OF CREDIT. SO WHAT THIS DOES IS ALLOW YOU TO SPEND, IF THINGS GO WELL, UPWARDS OF ALMOST $80 MILLION OF PAY AS YOU GO. IT ALLOWS YOU TO MINIMIZE THE INTEREST COSTS, BUT IT ALSO GIVES YOU FLEXIBILITY, BECAUSE IF SOME OF THOSE PROJECTS ARE SPENT SLOWER, WE'RE NOT HAVING BORROWED THAT MONEY PREMATURELY. IT'S A JUST IN TIME APPROACH, AND WE'VE BEEN DOING THAT IN SOME OTHER PLACES THROUGHOUT THE STATE, AND IT'S BEEN PROVEN TO BE QUITE EFFECTIVE OVER THE LAST 5 OR 7 YEARS. SO LET ME GIVE YOU EXAMPLES OF PROJECTS THAT WERE GIVEN TO US. YOU CAN SEE THERE ANY NUMBER OF PROJECTS. AGAIN, WE'RE NOT THE ONES THAT TELL YOU WHICH THE PROJECTS ARE. THEY COME OUT TO ABOUT 76 MILLION. 
          WE'VE JUST AROUND IT ASSUME IT'S ROUGHLY 80 MILLION. WE KNOW THESE NUMBERS ARE GOING TO MOVE AROUND. THE TIMING OF THESE THINGS WILL MOVE AROUND. BUT THE WAY WE WOULD SET UP THE PLAN IS THAT YOU, AS A COUNCIL, WILL DECIDE WHEN TO DO THESE PROJECTS, HOW TO DO THESE PROJECTS. BUT THE IMPORTANT THING IS IF WE DO THIS, WE'RE TYING IT TO A STRATEGY WHERE THE CITY WILL ALWAYS HAVE AT LEAST 15 MILLION IN RESERVE. AND AS THESE PROJECTS START TO, IN EFFECT, HAPPEN, YOU'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO GET THOSE OTHER DOLLARS. SO THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S THE QUICKLY I DON'T WANT TO I DON'T WANT TO BREAK HIS STRIDE. BUT THE PROJECTS WHAT WE HAVE UP THERE ARE ARE PLACEHOLDERS. THEY'RE NOT ANYTHING THAT COUNCIL HAS APPROVED OR ANYTHING. WE JUST PUT TOGETHER A LIST OF PROJECTS TO REPRESENT CLOSE TO THAT $80 MILLION. IT ISN'T ANYTHING THAT'S BEEN AGREED UPON AT THIS POINT IN TIME. I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. ALTMAN. A COUPLE POINTS HERE BEFORE I GO ON TO THE NEXT STRATEGY. IN THE BACK. WE'VE GOT THE CASH FLOWS, BUT WHAT WE ARE SHOWING HERE AND THE SETUP AGAIN, IS THAT YOU WOULD ONLY MOVE FORWARD WITH PROJECTS WHEN YOU KNOW THAT THOSE GUARANTEED PAYMENTS ARE INDEED COMING IN. SO THAT'S IMPORTANT. WE'RE ALWAYS GOING TO BE, IN EFFECT A STEP BEHIND, IF YOU WOULD, THE OVERALL RECEIPT OF DOLLARS IN TERMS OF SPENDING THESE DOLLARS, THAT'S IMPORTANT. SAID ANOTHER WAY. THINK OF IT THIS WAY. YOU'RE NOT GOING OUT AND MAKING ANY PAYMENTS UNTIL YOU GET YOUR PAYCHECK, IF YOU WOULD. SO THAT'S HOW WE'RE SETTING THIS UP. THE PAYCHECK WILL COME FIRST. YOU MAY WANT TO MOVE FORWARD IN CERTAIN PROJECTS, BUT ONLY THEN ARE YOU GOING TO START TO ACTUALLY AUTHORIZE THE SPENDING. THE WAY WE RECOMMEND IT IS THROUGH A LINE OF CREDIT, AND THEREFORE, FROM A CASH FLOW STANDPOINT, WE'RE ALWAYS GOING TO BE IN A VERY STRONG POSITION WITH REGARD TO FUND BALANCE, IF YOU WOULD, OR THE FUNDS THAT ARE SITTING THERE. I KNOW IT'S A LOT TO DIGEST, BUT I THINK WORKING WITH STAFF AND WORKING HERE WITH BOND COUNSEL, THE LEGAL COUNSEL, THIS HAS BEEN PROVEN TO US. SO, FOR EXAMPLE, IF SOMETHING IS EXPECTED TO BE JUST THE FIRST PROJECT 17 MILLION AND THAT PROJECT MOVES SLOWLY, YOU CANNOT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE EXPENDED THE FUNDS PREMATURELY. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE MONEY SITTING THERE IN SOME FORM OF A OF A INTERIM FUNDING LINE OF CREDIT BAN, WHATEVER IT IS. BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE SPENT UNTIL DOLLARS COME IN. SO WE'LL NOT PUT OURSELVES IN ANY WAY MINIMIZE THE CHANCES THAT WE'LL HAVE TO RELY ON EXISTING DOLLARS FROM THE GENERAL FUND. THAT'S IMPORTANT. THESE DOLLARS ARE GOING TO COME FROM THOSE GUARANTEED DOLLARS THAT CORDISH HAS TALKED ABOUT. SO LET'S TALK ABOUT PART TWO. PART TWO IS GOING TO RELY ON THOSE NEW REVENUES BY VIRTUE OF THE CASINO PROJECT. NOW THE CASINO PROJECT IS NOT ONLY GOING TO BRING IN REVENUES, BUT IT'S ALSO GOING TO HAVE EXPENSES TIED TO IT. WE WORKED WITH YOUR STAFF AND WENT IN EFFECT, LINE BY LINE, AGENCY BY AGENCY, DEPARTMENT BY DEPARTMENT AND SAID, OKAY, IT'S GREAT TO HAVE ALL THE REVENUES, BUT WHAT ABOUT ALL THE COSTS BETWEEN FIRE, RESCUE, POLICE, ETC? AND SO WHAT YOU'LL SEE IS THAT OFFSETTING THOSE REVENUES WILL BE ABOUT $2 MILLION IN FY 
          [01:40:04]
26, GROWING TO SOME $9 MILLION BY FY 29. CAN'T JUST LOOK AT REVENUES. YOU'VE GOT TO LOOK AT THE EXPENDITURES. WE THINK THOSE EXPENDITURES ARE ON THE HIGH SIDE, WHICH IS GOOD INSOFAR AS DOING PLANNING. YOU WANT TO BE CONSERVATIVE. AND I BELIEVE THAT WORKING WITH STAFF WE'VE DONE THAT. SO WE'VE THEN SAID WHAT ARE THE PROJECTS YOU'VE IDENTIFIED? AND THERE ARE FOUR MAJOR PROJECTS. YOU CAN SEE THEM RIGHT THERE. AND THE PROJECT TIMING IS PURPOSELY BEEN SET TO BE QUICK. AND THE REASON WE DID THAT IS AGAIN, TRYING TO SEE IF WE COULD DO A STRESS TEST, DO IT AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. WHAT DOES IT DO TO THE EXISTING AND EXPECTED REVENUES? DO WE HAVE ENOUGH REVENUES TO TAKE CARE OF ROUGHLY 160 MILLION OF PROJECTS THAT WILL NEED TO BE BORROWED FOR? AGAIN, THESE AREN'T OUR PROJECTS. THESE WERE GIVEN TO US. NOW, I WILL SAY ONE THING, AND THAT IS THE SCHOOLS WE HAVE BEEN TALKING WITH THE SCHOOLS. THAT NUMBER IS THE NET AMOUNT AFTER THE CITY SCHOOL GETS BASICALLY THE GRANT MONIES THAT ARE SITTING THERE FOR THE CITY. 
          SO ROUGHLY AND AGAIN, IT'S AN ORDER OF MAGNITUDE. IT'S APPROXIMATELY 30 MILLION. THE CITY HAS ALSO BEEN PRELIMINARILY APPROVED FOR A LITERARY LOAN. AND WHAT THAT SIMPLY MEANS IS THAT THAT'S A GUARANTEED 2% FIXED RATE. NO MATTER WHAT THE MARKETPLACE DOES. YOU HAVE A GUARANTEED FIXED RATE OF 2%. SO LONG AS WE, THE CITY AND THE SCHOOLS AND ALL FOLLOW THE PROTOCOLS TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR THAT MONEY. SO WE FACTORED THAT IN. YOU WOULD NOT HAVE TO GO OUT AND BORROW THAT MONEY IN WHAT WE'LL CALL THE PUBLIC MARKETS THAT'S ACTUALLY COMING FROM WILL BE COMING FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION. SO THAT'S AN IMPORTANT POINT. THOSE LITERARY LOANS HAVE BEEN AROUND FOR 50 PLUS YEARS. THEY ARE VERY STEADY. THEY ARE SET ASIDE BY THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION. SO THEY'RE NOT CONTINGENT ON WHETHER THE ECONOMY DOES WELL OR HOW THE STATE DOES. THOSE MONIES ARE SET ASIDE RIGHT NOW, AND YOU ARE ELIGIBLE FOR, AGAIN, 30 MILLION, ROUGHLY OF 2% MONEY. SO THE REST OF IT IS GOING TO BE PUBLICLY BORROWED. AND IT'S GOING TO BE AGAIN, THE FINAL MATURITIES WILL MOVE A LITTLE BIT. THE TIMING MIGHT BE A LITTLE SLOWER, BUT WE PURPOSELY ACTED AS IF THEY WERE A LITTLE FASTER TO SEE WHAT MORE STRESS COULD BE ON THE SYSTEM. SO AS I SAID EARLIER IN THE NO REVENUE DISCOUNT, WHEN YOU PUT ALL THE NUMBERS TOGETHER, WE CAN FUND 250 MILLION OF CAPITAL NEEDS AND STILL HAVE ANNUAL SURPLUSES OF BETWEEN 6 AND $8 MILLION. LET ME REPEAT THAT. IF ALL THE REVENUES COME AS EXPECTED BY CORDISH, WE WILL HAVE ON AVERAGE, AN EXCESS OF DOLLARS TO BACK TO THE GENERAL FUND OF BETWEEN 6 AND $8 MILLION. THAT'S THE GOOD NEWS. THEN WE SAID TO OURSELVES, OKAY, WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS A LONG TIME. I'VE BEEN DOING THIS ALMOST 45 YEARS. SOMETIMES IT DOESN'T ALWAYS WORK THAT WAY. SO LET'S MAKE SURE WE DO SOME DISCOUNTING. SO WE THEN SAID WHAT IS FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, A VERY DEEP DISCOUNT FROM THE GET GO THROUGHOUT THE NEXT TEN YEARS. AND IF WE DISCOUNTED THOSE REVENUES BY 40% FROM DAY ONE ON OUT TO THE NEXT DECADE, WHAT WE'LL FIND IS THAT WE'LL HAVE ABOUT A $3 MILLION ANNUAL SHORTFALL OF DOLLARS STARTING IN FY 29, NOT IMMEDIATELY, BUT ABOUT FY 29. SO WE THEN ASKED OURSELVES, WHAT IS THE BREAK EVEN? WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO ALL OF THIS? AND BASICALLY WE CAN HAVE BASICALLY A 30% DISCOUNT OF THE REVENUES. SO EFFECTIVELY IF WE GET $0.70 ON EVERY DOLLAR THAT'S EXPECTED, WE STILL CAN DO THIS WHOLE PROGRAM AND NOT BE IN ANY WAY TOUCHING THE GENERAL FUND. NOW THAT 30% IS ON THE REVENUE SIDE, TO THE EXTENT THOSE OPERATING EXPENDITURES ARE NOT AS NOT AS GREAT, WHICH WE KIND OF BELIEVE THEY WON'T BE AS GREAT, THIS WILL BE THAT MUCH MORE CUSHION TO THE EXTENT SOME OF THE PROJECTS DON'T ALL OCCUR 
          [01:45:03]
STARTING AS EARLY AS 26, FISCAL YEAR 26. THAT WILL ALSO HELP. BUT WE AGAIN FELT LIKE IT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY. I'VE BEEN IN FRONT OF YOU ALL. I'VE WORKED WITH YOU NOW FOR YEARS TO SAY, WHAT HAPPENS IF WE DON'T GET ALL THOSE REVENUES AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE, OR IF EVER? SO THAT'S WHAT WE'VE DONE HERE, I THINK ONE LAST POINT I'D LIKE TO MAKE, AND THAT IS THIS. WHEN IT COMES TO I'M GOING TO GO BACKWARD FOR A MINUTE WHEN IT COMES TO THOSE VARIOUS PROJECTS, THE SCHOOLS PRETTY MUCH ARE ON A CERTAIN TRACK AND WE FEEL GOOD ABOUT THAT. BUT YOU LOOK AT THE OTHER THREE, TO THE EXTENT THAT IT APPEARS IN 26 AND 27, THAT THE REVENUES ARE NOT ANYWHERE NEAR WHERE WE WANT THEM TO BE. AS ROBUST. YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO SOME WORK HERE AND SLOW CERTAIN THINGS DOWN AND TO ADJUST THEM. SO IT'S NOT AS IF IT'S ALL OR NOTHING. IT'S NOT GOING TO BE THAT WAY AT ALL. HOPEFULLY YOU'LL GET USED TO ME BEING HERE AND WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT THIS ON LITERALLY PROBABLY A QUARTERLY BASIS, LOOKING AT HOW THE PROJECTS ARE BEING MOVING FORWARD, WHAT SURPRISES HAVE HAPPENED, BECAUSE THAT'S THE IMPORTANT THING HERE. IF WE FIND THAT THESE VARIOUS REVENUES GET DELAYED OR THE PROJECT GETS DELAYED, WITH THE PROBABLE EXCEPTION OF THE SCHOOLS, WHICH AT ONE TIME WAS ALREADY BAKED INTO THE GENERAL FUND, THIS ALL COULD MOVE A LITTLE BIT AND CAN BE SLOWED DOWN. I DON'T KNOW IF THE MANAGER WOULD LIKE TO SORT OF UNDERSCORE THAT. I'M SORT OF JUMPING AHEAD A LITTLE BIT AND, AND SORT OF MY RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT MY RECOMMENDATION IS THAT WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT THESE REVENUES ARE COMING IN BEFORE WE START TO COMMIT TO THESE OTHER PROJECTS. THIS IS PART OF THE ONGOING COMMITMENT TO REALLY REALIZE THE REVENUES AND TAKE A CONSERVATIVE APPROACH TO THE EXPENDITURE OF THOSE REVENUES, WHETHER THEY BE THE UPFRONT PAYMENTS OR THE ONGOING REVENUE. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THAT WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE TIMING HERE, WHEN YOU WHEN THEY SHOW THE GRAPHS, THAT THAT'S THE STRESS TEST. WE COULD SEE WHEN WE LOOK AT THAT, WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. BUT AT THIS POINT, WE'RE NOT THOSE THOSE DATES REALLY AREN'T IN, IN WHERE THEY WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY DISCUSSION OF THOSE PROJECTS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE SCHOOL. SO WE'RE WE'RE JUST THROWING SOMETHING OUT THERE AND SOME DATES TO REALLY STRESS OUR, OUR BASICALLY TEST OUR ABILITY TO HANDLE THE PAYMENT. BUT WE STILL HAVE A LONG WAY TO GO BEFORE WE START SELECTING PROJECTS AND LOOKING AT TIMING. WE JUST THREW SOME BIG NUMBERS OUT THERE TO KIND OF TEST THE SYSTEM A LITTLE BIT. THE SCHOOLS THOUGH, WE ARE MOVING FORWARD JUST SO EVERYBODY KNOWS WITH THAT PROJECT, WITH THE REPLACEMENT OF WALNUT HILL, THAT THAT THEY ARE MOVING ON A PATH WITH THAT. AND WE HAD A MEETING WITH THEM TO KIND OF MAKE SURE WE'RE TOUCHING ALL THE BASES THAT WE'RE STILL ELIGIBLE FOR THE LOAN AND THE GRANT THAT THEY RECEIVED. BUT AND THAT'S MOVING FORWARD. BUT THESE OTHER THREE PROJECTS, THOSE ARE JUST BIG NUMBERS THAT WE'RE ABLE TO PUT OUT THERE TO STRESS THE SYSTEM. RIGHT. SO THIS IS THE STRESS TEST, IF YOU WOULD. THAT DARK BLUE LINE IS REPRESENTED OF WHAT REVENUES ARE EXPECTED TO COME IN EACH YEAR UNDER THE COTTAGE PLAN WITHOUT ANY DISCOUNTING. AND YOU'LL NOTICE THEN THERE IS EXISTING DEBT SERVICE. THEN THERE'S THE OPERATING EXPENDITURES. THERE'S THE PROJECTED DEBT SERVICE ONGOING. AND YOU'LL NOTICE THERE'S THAT DELTA THERE. THAT'S THAT LIGHT SHADE OF GREEN. 
          THAT'S THAT 6 TO $8 MILLION. SO THIS WOULD BE THE HOME RUN SCENARIO. MIND YOU, WE DID NOT GO A DIME OVER WHAT CORDISH EXPECTS. BUT AGAIN, THAT'S IN AN IDEAL EXPECTED WORLD FROM THE CORDISH PERSPECTIVE. NOW WE SAID THE OPPOSITE HERE. IF THOSE BLUE LINE IS NOW DISCOUNTED BY 40%, YOU'LL NOTICE THAT LINE IS UNDER THE IF YOU WOULD THAT GOLDEN, WHICH IS THE TOTAL OF THE DEBT SERVICE AND THE OPERATING EXPENDITURES. AND SO THAT THAT SHADE OF RED IS JUST HIGHLIGHTING THE FACT THAT WE'RE SHORT ABOUT $3 MILLION A YEAR, THAT KNOWING THE WAY THE CITY IS MOVING WOULD NOT BE CATASTROPHIC. BUT AGAIN, WE WANT TO TRY AS BEST AS POSSIBLE, IN NO UNCERTAIN TERMS, TO NOT NEED TO LOOK TO THE GENERAL FUND TO HELP SUPPORT THESE OTHER PROJECTS. THAT'S THE IDEAL. THEN AGAIN, THE THIRD ONE IS IF IT'S DOWN BY 30%, YOU CAN SEE THAT BLUE LINE ROUGHLY APPROXIMATES ALL OF THOSE VARIOUS DEBTS AND OPERATIONS. ONCE AGAIN, THOSE OPERATIONS HAVE THE ABILITY TO POTENTIALLY BE A LITTLE BIT LESS. BUT AGAIN, ONLY THROUGH 
          [01:50:02]
TIME WILL THAT BE KNOWN. SO WHAT ARE THE NEXT STEPS? HERE WE ARE. WE FINALIZING THE 26 BUDGET OF COURSE ON THAT. WE KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET THE 15 MILLION BY THE END OF THE CALENDAR YEAR. SO WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT WE MOVE FORWARD NOW AND ESTABLISH THAT LINE OF CREDIT. WE'LL DO THAT WHILE WE'VE GOT ALL OF THESE THINGS IN LINE IN PLACE, BUT WE'RE NOT RECOMMENDING THAT WE GO AND SPEND ANY OF THAT LINE OF CREDIT UNTIL SUCH TIME AS THAT $15 MILLION IS IN THE BANK. AND WE THEN CAN DECIDE, YOU CAN DECIDE WHAT PROJECTS TO DO. AND BASICALLY WE WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE DO NOT EXPEND AT ANY TIME MORE THAN THE 15 MILLION, BUT THEN WE EXPECT THE NEXT DOLLOP OF THE 15 MILLION TO COME VERY QUICKLY BEHIND IT. SO THE THINKING IS WE WILL ALWAYS KEEP 15 MILLION IN RESERVE. WE'LL GET OUR NEXT 15 MILLION AND YOU START MOVING FORWARD WITHOUT DELAY ON SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT YOU'VE DECIDED THAT YOU WANT TO DO ON WHAT WE CALL A PAY AS YOU GO BASIS. BECAUSE THIS APPROACH, THIS LINE OF CREDIT, IS GOING TO BE PAID BACK, NOT THROUGH ANY LONG TERM BORROWING, BUT IT'S EXPECTED TO BE PAID BACK THROUGH THOSE DOLLARS THAT ARE COMING IN FROM THE GUARANTEED CORDISH PAYMENTS. BUT AGAIN, WE ALWAYS WANT TO BE BEHIND THOSE CORDISH PAYMENTS IN SENDING DOLLARS OUT THE DOOR FOR CAPITAL PROJECTS. THAT WAY WE DON'T PUT OURSELVES IN JEOPARDY WITH THAT. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND I APPRECIATE IT. MR. MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MR. ROSE, FOR THE PRESENTATION AND FOR LAYING SOME HYPOTHETICALS OUT ON. IT'S A LOT OF A LOT TO DIGEST, BUT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I REALLY WANT TO FOLLOW BACK UP ON DURING OUR RETREAT IN AUGUST. THEY'LL GIVE US SOME TIME TO REALLY LEAN IN ON THESE NUMBERS AND, AND PROJECTS AND REALLY HAVE MORE, MORE OF A. A ROADMAP OF HOW THINGS ARE GOING TO GO. BECAUSE I KNOW ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE HYPOTHETICAL, BASED ON BASED ON TIMING. ALL RIGHT. SO IF EVERYBODY'S GOOD WITH THAT FOR THE RETREAT AS A DISCUSSION, COUNCILMAN CUTTER, ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD? WELL, IF I COULD, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU, MR. ROSE. GOOD TO SEE YOU. LIKEWISE. GOOD. 
          CONCERNING THE SHORT TERM LOAN OF $30 MILLION TO FUND PAY AS YOU GO PROJECTS, IS THIS $30 MILLION LOAN INCONSISTENT WITH THE CONCEPT OF PAY AS YOU GO? NO. WHAT IT IS THAT WE WANT TO GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO MOVE AS QUICKLY AS WHAT YOU WANT, DO DIFFERENT THINGS WITH SOME OF THOSE DOLLARS, BUT IT'S NOT INCONSISTENT AT ALL. IT STARTS, LIKE I SAID, WITH THE FIRST 15 MILLION BEING SET ASIDE. THINK OF IT THIS WAY. WE KNOW YOU HAVE CERTAIN PROJECTS TO DO AND YOU WANT TO DO THEM NOT WAIT A YEAR OR TWO. I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE BIG PROJECTS. 
          I'M TALKING ABOUT LIKE THAT SORT OF SAMPLE LIST OF PROJECTS THAT MR. ALTMAN POINTED OUT. OKAY, SO WHAT WE TYPICALLY WOULD SAY IS, RATHER THAN YOU SIT THERE AND SAY, OKAY, WE'VE GOT 15, WE'VE GOT ANOTHER 15, WE'RE GOING TO WE ALLOW YOU SOME FLEXIBILITY, IF YOU WOULD, TO MOVE FORWARD WITH SOME OF THESE PROJECTS, TO BE ABLE TO KEEP THAT 15 AND INVEST IT AT, YOU KNOW, SORT OF INVEST IT AND JUST BE IN A MODE CASH FLOW WISE, WHEN WE'RE AT THE RETREAT, I CAN WALK YOU THROUGH THE CASH FLOW CONCEPT OF ALL THIS. I THINK IT'S DIFFICULT TO DO RIGHT UP HERE IN THE SCREEN, BUT WE CAN SHOW YOU HOW THAT CASH FLOWS WOULD WORK. BUT IT'S DEFINITELY NOT INCONSISTENT. IT REALLY IS WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING IN A NUMBER OF OTHER LOCAL GOVERNMENTS SUCCESSFULLY, BECAUSE AGAIN, THAT 80 MILLION IF I GO BACK, THERE'S A CERTAIN TIMETABLE. 
          THERE IT IS. THAT'S THE ACTUAL TIMETABLE THAT THOSE DOLLARS ARE EXPECTED TO COME IN. SO WE'RE IN A MODE WHERE WE EXPECT FY 26, THE BENEFITS 27 AND BEYOND. WE EXPECT TO GET UPWARDS OF 60 MILLION OF THAT IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS. BUT WE WANT TO RECOMMEND THAT WE START MODESTLY IN TERMS OF SETTING OURSELVES UP TO BORROW SOME DOLLARS AND THEN USE THOSE PAYMENTS TO PAY THEM OFF. 
          [01:55:05]
THAT'S THE IDEA. SO RATHER THAN YOU BE THE BANK WE USE, WE USE AN EFFECTIVE LINE OF CREDIT TO BE YOUR BANK, IF YOU WOULD. WELL, MAYBE IT'S ALL A QUESTION OF SEMANTICS, BUT I HAVE A HARD TIME UNDERSTANDING HOW BORROWING $30 MILLION TO PAY FOR PROJECTS IS THE SAME THING AS PAYING AS YOU GO. IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE NOT PAYING AS WE GO. INSTEAD, WE'RE BORROWING $30 MILLION TO GO. 
          WELL, YEAH, I THINK IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF SEMANTICS. YES, BUT BUT THE THINK OF IT THIS WAY, SOME OF YOUR PROJECTS ARE SIZABLE, AND YOU'LL NEED TO HAVE DEMONSTRATED THAT YOU'VE GOT MONEY THERE FOR THOSE PROJECTS. SO THE IDEA HERE IS IF WE GO AND DO IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE 30 MILLION, BUT THAT IN WORKING WITH STAFF THAT THAT MADE SENSE TO US, THAT KIND OF DOLLARS. 
          BECAUSE IF INDEED WE REALLY MOVE AND START TO SPEND THOSE DOLLARS, WE'RE GOING TO IN TURN, VERY QUICKLY HAVE AGAIN, THE FIRST 15 MILLION SHOULD BE HERE JUST IN A FEW MONTHS. THE NEXT 15 MILLION IS NOT VERY FAR BEHIND IT, THOSE PAYMENTS. SO WE'RE THINKING ABOUT BRINGING THOSE IN AND LITERALLY BANKING THOSE PAYMENTS. AND THAT ALLOWS US THEN TO MAKE $30 MILLION OF COMMITMENTS. AND THEN WE TAKE AT THE END OF THE FIVE YEARS, 4 OR 5 YEARS, WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO HAVE ENOUGH DOLLARS SITTING THERE TO PAY OFF THAT. SO IT'S NOT AN IMMEDIATE PAY AS YOU GO TO YOUR POINT, BUT IT'S A PAY AS YOU GO OVER A FOUR OR 5 OR 6 YEAR PERIOD. SO MAYBE THAT'S PART OF IT. TO ME, THE WAY I LOOK AT IT AS A FINANCE PERSON, IF I KNOW THERE ARE DOLLARS THAT HAVE BEEN COMMITTED BY AN OUTSIDE ENTITY, THAT IS GOOD ABOUT GIVING THOSE DOLLARS, THOSE DOLLARS ARE GUARANTEED COMING IN, THEN I'M OKAY RECOMMENDING THAT WE DO SHORT TERM BORROWING, KNOWING THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE PAYING IT OFF WITH A LONG TERM BORROWING, GOING TO BE PAYING IT OFF WITH THOSE DOLLARS THAT ARE COMING IN THE DOOR. SO ALL RIGHT. WELL, THANK YOU. BUT THIS TAKES ME BACK TO THE NIGHTMARE OF 2017. YEAH. WHEN WE WERE USING PAYDAY LOANS. RIGHT. AND WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE SHORT TERM LOAN OF $30 MILLION AND A PAYDAY LOAN OF $30 MILLION? GOOD QUESTION. SO BIG DIFFERENCE. SO WHEN WE DID THAT, WHEN, YOU KNOW, WE HAD TO DO THAT, THAT WAS JUST TO PAY THE BILLS. THAT WAS ALL THAT WAS FOR THIS IS NOT TO PAY THE BILLS. THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH YOUR GENERAL FUND. MEANING THESE DOLLARS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO EXPEND IF YOU DO ON VARIOUS PROJECTS ARE GOING TO BE REPAID FROM THE CORDISH PAYMENTS AS OPPOSED TO THE GENERAL FUND. THAT'S THE FIRST DIFFERENCE. THE SECOND DIFFERENCE IS THAT SHORT TERM BORROWING, TRULY, AS I USED TO CALL THEM, PAYDAY LOANS, BECAUSE WE HELPED ARRANGE THAT. THAT WAS JUST TO GET YOU SO THAT YOU DIDN'T HAVE I MEAN, YOU HAD NO OTHER CHOICE. YOU HAD NO DOLLARS IN THE COFFERS. THIS IS THE EXACT OPPOSITE. WE'RE NOT GOING TO SPEND ANY OF THAT 30 MILLION UNTIL WE HAVE 15 MILLION SITTING IN A BANK ACCOUNT THAT IS ABSOLUTELY SET TO BE PAYING BACK THESE PROJECTS. SO IT'S VERY, VERY DIFFERENT. IT'S THE OPPOSITE, REALLY. AND THEN ONE LAST THING, MR. CUTHBERT. REMEMBER THIS. YOUR GENERAL FUND UNASSIGNED FUND BALANCE, WHICH IN THAT DAY WAS ABOUT A -7 MILLION. TODAY WE'RE AT A POSITIVE 40 TO 50 MILLION. SO WE ARE DIAMETRICALLY IN TERMS OF WHERE WE WERE THEN 180 DEGREES. 
          IF, FOR EXAMPLE, ALL OF THIS FELL APART AND WE USED THE LINE AND WE HAD $30 MILLION AND WE ONLY GOT 15 MILLION IN, OKAY, I WOULDN'T EVEN RECOMMEND WE GO FORWARD UNTIL WE GET THE 30 IN TO COVER 30 MILLION OF PROJECTS. THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WELL ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THIS THIS IS REALLY I WANT YOU TO THINK OF THIS, MR. CUTHBERT. THIS IS REALLY A CASH FLOW ACCOMMODATION WHERE YOU'RE COMING AT THIS FROM A POSITION OF STRENGTH, WHEREAS THAT WAS CASH FLOW NECESSITY FROM A POSITION OF WEAKNESS. I MEAN, WE HAD NO CHOICE WHEN WE DID THAT. 
          THIS IS THE OPPOSITE. EXACTLY. AND THE COMMON FACTOR BETWEEN THE PAYDAY LOAN AND THE SHORT TERM LOAN IS THAT WE'RE SPENDING MONEY THAT WE DON'T YET HAVE. NO, THAT'S THE OPPOSITE. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE AND YOU'RE GOING TO SIT THERE AND START BEFORE YOU SPEND ANY OF THAT 30 MILLION, YOU'RE SITTING ON $15 MILLION IN THE ACCOUNT. THAT'S THE FIRST POINT. THAT'S THE 
          [02:00:02]
FIRST POINT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MR. ROSENBERG. WE HAVE THIS NICE CATALOG HERE TO LOOK THROUGH. SO, COUNCILMAN COVER, IF YOU WANT TO LOOK THROUGH THIS, WE'RE GOING TO BE REVISITING THIS TO HAVE A DEEPER DISCUSSION DURING OUR RETREAT IN AUGUST. SO I JUST WANTED MR. ROSE AND THE REST OF THE DAVENPORT STAFF TO INTRODUCE THIS AND GIVE US THIS TONIGHT. 
          SO WE HAVE A LOT TO DIGEST. AND THEN THEY'LL BE BACK IN AUGUST. SO WE'LL HAVE SOME FURTHER DISCUSSIONS ON THE PROCESS. SO ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU I APPRECIATE YOU AS 
          [8. Official Public Hearings (Part 3 of 3)]
ALWAYS. ALL RIGHT. NEXT WE'LL GO BACK TO OUR AGENDA TO ITEM G, WHICH IS A PUBLIC HEARING TO AMEND AND RE ADOPT CITY ORDINANCE PERTAINING TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO ADD LANGUAGE CLARIFYING THE ABILITY TO COMPENSATE PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBERS WITHIN THE ASSOCIATED AMOUNT. THE SIDEWALK OF COURSE. THANK YOU. MAYOR. COUNCIL. ALL RIGHT. SO YOU ALL HAVE HEARD ABOUT THIS RECENTLY. WE CAME TO THE WORK SESSION TO GAUGE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS, BUT WE ARE LOOKING TO PROVIDE SOME COMPENSATION TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR THEIR VARIOUS DUTIES, INCLUDING LOOKING AT SIGNIFICANT DOCUMENTS TO COME TO YOU FOR ACTUAL APPROVAL OF THE ORDINANCE. SO BACKGROUND. WE CAME BEFORE YOU IN MAY. I WILL NOTE THERE WAS A MIX OF SUPPORT AND OPPOSITION FOR THIS IDEA. IT SEEMED FOR THOSE THAT SUPPORTED IT, THEY WERE OPEN TO WHAT WE HAD BUDGETED FOR IN THE CITY BUDGET FOR THIS UPCOMING YEAR, WHICH IS ABOUT $75 A MEETING. 
          STAFF DID MEET WITH PLANNING COMMISSION THIS MONTH, AND THERE WAS ANOTHER KIND OF DISCUSSION ON WHAT THERE WAS HOPES FOR IN TERMS OF THIS FUNDING. AND THAT DISCUSSION WAS $75 PER MEETING FOR THOSE WHO ARE NOT TRAINED YET, AND $100 PER MEETING FOR THOSE WHO HAVE UNDERGONE TRAINING. SO VIRGINIA COMMONWEALTH UNIVERSITY OFFERS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO SEND OUR PLANNING COMMISSIONERS TO RECEIVE PLANNING COMMISSIONER TRAINING. IT'S PRETTY INTENSIVE FOR TOTAL DAYS IN PERSON, THREE BOOKS A MONTH IN BETWEEN FOR THEM TO REVIEW THE MATERIALS AND COMPLETE THOSE COME BACK. AND WE'VE HAD A MAYBE HALF OF OUR PLANNING COMMISSIONERS HAVE ATTENDED TRAININGS SO FAR. THE OTHER HALF ARE LOOKING TO DO IT SOON. AND SO WE HAVE COME A LONG WAY WITH OUR PLANNING COMMISSION. REALLY UNDERSTANDING THE INS AND OUTS OF WHEN IT COMES TO LOOKING AT RESOLUTION, SPECIAL USE PERMITS AND ZONING ORDINANCES AND SO FORTH. SO HERE IS THE DRAFT LANGUAGE THAT'S GOING IN THERE. AGAIN, WE HAVE THE STATE CODE SECTION THAT SAYS COUNCIL MAY PROVIDE COMPENSATION THAT FIRST SENTENCE. BUT THEN WE WANTED TO BE SPECIFIC AT WHAT THAT COMPENSATION LOOKS LIKE. SO COMPENSATION FOR PLANNING COMMISSIONERS SHALL BE SET AT $75 PER MEETING OR $100 PER MEETING FOR THE HIGHER AMOUNT BEING PAID TO THOSE WHO HAVE COMPLETED THE CERTIFIED PLANNING COMMISSIONER PROGRAM OR OTHER TRAINING AS APPROVED BY STAFF. 
          NO PAYMENT SHALL BE MADE TO PLANNING COMMISSIONERS THAT ARE 15 MINUTES OR MORE LATE OR NOT IN ATTENDANCE AT A MEETING. SO WE REALLY WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS THAT ARE ON TIME AND AT THE MEETING, SO WE CAN CONDUCT BUSINESS IN A TIMELY MANNER. SO THAT IS WHAT THE TEXT AMENDMENT IS PROPOSED AS. LET ME KNOW IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ON THIS. I BELIEVE I SAW A COUPLE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS IN THE ROOM AS WELL. OKAY. NEXT, OPEN THE FLOOR FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING TO AMEND ADOPT THE CITY ORDINANCE PERTAINING TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO ADD LANGUAGE, CLARIFYING THE ABILITY TO COMPENSATE PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBERS WITH AN ASSOCIATE AMOUNT. MISS RUDOLPH. THANK YOU. MAYOR RUDOLPH, 1675 MOUNT VERNON STREET. I'M ONE OF THE PEOPLE WHO TALKED WHO'S TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE, AND I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF IT. AND I'LL TELL YOU WHY IN A MINUTE. IT IS KIND OF A POLARIZING SUGGESTION. I MEAN, I KNOW AFTER IT WAS TALKED ABOUT LAST TIME AND GOT PUT OUT THERE, THERE ARE FOLKS WHO ARE ADAMANT ABOUT INDIVIDUALS WHO GIVE UP THEIR TIME TO HELP, LIKE CITY GOVERNMENT IN THIS CASE DESERVE TO BE COMPENSATED. THAT'S ONE SCHOOL OF THOUGHT, AND I CERTAINLY WON'T CRITICIZE IT. 
          ANOTHER SCHOOL OF THOUGHT IS YOU'RE VOLUNTEERING. AND TO SOME OF US, VOLUNTEERING MEANS THAT YOU DON'T NEED TO BE PAID. BUT AGAIN, THAT DIFFERS AMONG PEOPLE. BUT TO ME PERSONALLY, I THINK THAT IF I'M WILLING TO SERVE ON SOMETHING, I'M WILLING TO PUT AS MUCH TIME AND AS NECESSARY OF MY OWN TIME WITHOUT BEING COMPENSATED. BUT THE BIG THAT'S THAT. BUT THAT'S SUBJECTIVE. THE BIGGER, PRACTICAL, OBJECTIVE ISSUE IS IT'S PRECEDENT SETTING, BECAUSE YOU HAVE A NUMBER OF BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. I'M SURE THAT MISS HILL COULD COULD GIVE A LISTING OF THEM, BUT MOST OF THEM ARE SUPPOSED TO HAVE LIKE SEVEN MEMBERS TO CORRESPOND TO WARDS, AND SOME OF THEM HAVE MORE OR WOULD HAVE MORE IF THEY WERE COMPLETELY POPULATED. AND THAT'S SO WHAT'S GOING TO KEEP EVERYONE OF THESE OTHER BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS FROM ALSO ASKING FOR COMPENSATION? I MEAN, I'M NOT AWARE THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION WORKS HARDER THAN THE 
          [02:05:04]
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY, FOR EXAMPLE. AND OF COURSE, WE'VE GOT PEOPLE HERE FROM WE'VE GOT PEOPLE HERE TONIGHT WHO ARE VOLUNTEERS AND WHO SERVE ON THE CDBG ADVISORY BOARD. I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT IT. I MEAN, IT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO KNOW FROM OTHER BOARDS WHAT PEOPLE THINK OR IF THEY THINK, WELL, WE'RE GOING TO JUMP ON THE BANDWAGON AS SOON AS THIS IS APPROVED FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION. SO I BELIEVE YOU SHOULD KEEP THAT IN MIND. ALSO, HOW IF THIS IS GOING TO BE NIGHTMARISH OR SIMPLE TO ADMINISTER, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE GET INTO THESE PEOPLE GET $75, THE OTHER PEOPLE GET $100. BUT DON'T BE LATE OR YOU WON'T GET PAID. SO THINK ABOUT ALL OF THAT, PLEASE. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. RIGHT. SEEING NO MORE HANDS. PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED. NEXT, ANY DISCUSSION FROM MEMBERS OF COUNCIL? COUNCILMAN JONES. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. MISS NAOMI. HOW MANY MEETINGS ARE DO THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT HAVE? PLANNING COMMISSION AND PLANNING COMMISSION, AT A MINIMUM. 
          THEY'RE MEETING 11 TIMES A YEAR. BUT RIGHT NOW WE'RE DOING OUR ZONING ORDINANCE UPDATE. SO THEY'RE MEETING ABOUT AN ADDITIONAL 6 OR 7 TIMES A YEAR AS WELL. BECAUSE THEY'LL HAVE JOINT MEETINGS WITH YOU ALL ON THAT TOPIC, TOO. 7011 MEETINGS A YEAR, RIGHT. HOW OFTEN? ONCE A WEEK. ONCE A MONTH. OKAY. SO THE REGULARLY SCHEDULED PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING IS ONCE A MONTH. WE'VE ALSO BEEN DOING ADDITIONAL MEETINGS FOR THE ZONING ORDINANCE UPDATE SO WE CAN JUST AVERAGE IT OUT. MAYBE YOU CAN JUST SAY THEY MEET 1117 TIMES A YEAR. THAT'S AN EXCEPTION FOR THIS YEAR BECAUSE WE'RE DOING A ZONING ORDINANCE UPDATE. THEY'LL MEET LESS AFTER THE ZONING ORDINANCE MOVES FORWARD. SO. 11 IS PRETTY STANDARD. 11 OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I THINK I'M OKAY WITH COMPENSATING THE PLANNING COMMISSION, BUT NOT JUST THEM BY THEMSELVES. YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE GOING TO DO IT, FOR ONE, WE NEED TO DO IT FOR ALL WE. SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT $75 TIMES SEVEN PEOPLE PRETTY MUCH. YEAH, NINE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS, $525. AND THAT'S PER MEETING PRETTY MUCH. IT'S GOING TO TAKE US UP TO 1275 WITH THE NUMBERS THAT YOU GAVE ME, WHICH IS PRETTY MUCH MORE THAN WHAT COUNCIL MET ALMOST. AND I CAN'T SEE THAT BECAUSE WE WORK AROUND THE CLOCK, WE MEET MORE THAN 11 TIMES A YEAR AND ALL OF THAT. AND I DON'T SEE HOW WE'RE GOING TO SIT UP HERE. AND THERE'S NO SHOT AT THE GUYS BECAUSE THEY DO. THEY PUT A LOT OF WORK INTO IT, BUT WE GOT DEPARTMENT HEADS THAT ARE MAKING $100,000 THAT DON'T COME TO THESE MEETINGS, YOU KNOW, AND SO IF SOMEBODY MAKE THAT MOTION TO APPROVE IT, I'M GOING TO MAKE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION, MR. MAYOR, T. PAY ALL OF THE BOARD'S ACROSS THE BOARD. IF WE'RE GOING TO DO ONE, WE NEED TO DO IT FOR ALL THAT'S THAT'S I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU WANT TO DO THAT. I THINK IT IS TIME THAT YOU PROBABLY NEED TO TABLE IT FOR US, FOR A STUDY OF THAT, TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TYPE OF NUMBER THAT ACTUALLY IS, IF WE'RE GOING TO DO IT ACROSS THE BOARD OR NOT, I CAN MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE IT UNTIL WE DO THAT, UNTIL WE GET THE INFORMATION. SO I MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE UNTIL WE GET THAT INFORMATION. OKAY. COUNCILMAN CUTLER, I SECOND THE MOTION. 
          MOTION. AND A SECOND. MR. COULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL COUNCIL MEMBER CUTHBERT? AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER. JONES. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER. MYERS. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER. SMITH. LEE. MAYOR. PAIR I MOTION. MR. YES. COUNCILMAN. JONES. MISS HIM. SO, CAN YOU GET THOSE NUMBERS TO US ON EVERY BOARD, EVERY MEMBER. HOW MUCH IT'S GOING TO COST YOU? $75 FOR EVERYBODY. GREAT. YEAH, WE'LL WORK ON THAT. THANKS. BECAUSE WE KNOW IT'S COMING. IF WE DO THIS FOR ONE NEXT MEETING IS GOING TO BE ANOTHER BOARD ASKING FOR IT IN THE NEXT MEETING, ANOTHER BOARD. SO LET'S JUST GET IT OUT 
          [02:10:03]
THE WAY AND GET EVERYBODY TAKEN CARE OF. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. IT'S GOING TO REQUIRE THE REVISION OF SEVERAL ORDINANCES. YOU MIGHT WANT TO PUT THAT ON THE MANAGER, BECAUSE HE'S GOING TO HAVE TO SPAN SEVERAL DEPARTMENTS TO MAKE IT HAPPEN. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO WE HAVE THE CITY MANAGER TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT, ON WHAT ORDINANCES THAT NEED TO BE CHANGED. OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. NEXT WE MOVE ON TO ITEM H, WHICH IS A PUBLIC HEARING TO APPROVE THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT FUNDS FOR PROGRAM YEAR 2526 AND FISCAL YEAR 2026, AS RECOMMENDED BY THE CDBG, CDBG ADVISORY BOARD. GREAT. SO YOU ALL SAW A DRAFT OF THIS PRESENTATION OR VERY SIMILAR PRESENTATION A COUPLE WEEKS AGO. SO YOU KNOW WHAT'S COMING, BUT WE'RE GOING TO BRING IT BACK BEFORE YOU ALL TO ACTUALLY TAKE ACTION. AND WE HAVE KOFI HERE TODAY WHO'S THE CHAIR OF THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT GRANT ADVISORY BOARD TO TAKE YOU THROUGH IT. GREETINGS, MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL STAFF. I'M KOFI AND CHAIRMAN OF THE CDBG ADVISORY BOARD. BEFORE WE GET INTO IT, COUNCILMAN JONES, I WAS GOING TO SAY IF YOU DIDN'T FORGET ABOUT THE OTHER BOARDS, WE'LL SETTLE FOR $50. I'M JOKING, I'M JOKING, I'M JOKING. BUT A GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING, GOOD EVENING. ALL RIGHT. I'M HERE TODAY TO RECAP THE PROGRAM YEAR 2025 RECOMMENDATIONS AND SEEK A DECISION ON HOW TO ALLOCATE OUR PROGRAM YEAR FUNDS FROM YOU ALL CITY COUNCIL FOR THE SLIDE PRESENTER. CAN WE FOCUS ON SLIDE 12 THROUGH 15 AND THEN JUMP TO 20. SO WE CAN BEGIN ON SLIDE 12? OH MY OWN THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. ALL RIGHT. SO BEFORE WE GO IN JUST THIS IS THE RECAP I WANT TO GO OVER THE HUD LETTER FOR PROGRAM YEAR 25. JUST TO GO AFTER WHAT HUD HAS NOT SO MUCH DIRECTED US TO GIVE US SOME GUIDANCE FOR US TO LOOK INTO. AS YOU SEE, WE HAVE A TOTAL OF $585,812 TO ALLOCATE FOR THIS PROGRAM YEAR. WE ARE ELIGIBLE FOR SECTION 108. I THINK THE GENTLEMAN THAT WAS SPEAKING ABOUT THE BOND RATING AND SOME OF THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS THAT WE CAN GO AFTER THROUGH HIS CHANNELS. WE ALSO HAVE THIS AS WELL THAT WE CAN USE TO GO AFTER SOME CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS. THE SECTION 108 LOAN. THAT BEING SAID, HUD DID STRONGLY RECOMMEND THAT WE FOCUS ON SUPPORTING OPPORTUNITY ZONES, PROVIDING GAP FINANCING FOR LARGE SCALE COMMUNITY PROJECTS, AND ADDRESS THE LOCAL HOUSING SHORTAGES BY EXPANDING THE HOUSING SUPPLY. 
          AND THIS WILL ALL CULMINATE IN OUR YEAR ONE ANNUAL ACTION PLAN, WHICH IS DUE TO HUD AUGUST 16TH, 2025. THAT BEING SAID, I WANTED TO RECAP THE RECOMMENDED. SO THESE ARE THE APPLICANTS. I BELIEVE WE HAD A TOTAL OF 25 APPLICANTS. FOR A TOTAL OF $1,385,355, BUT WE ONLY ARE ALLOCATED $585,000, ROUGHLY. AND JUST JUMPING FORWARD TO SLIDE 20, AS PROMISED. EXCUSE ME, I'LL STOP HERE. THIS IS THE BREAKDOWN OF WHAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE. AND BASED ON THE DIFFERENT SECTORS, WE CAN ALLOCATE IT TO PUBLIC SERVICES. THE 15% CAP AND THE ADMINISTRATIVE CAP AS WELL. AND THESE ARE OUR RECOMMENDATIONS AS WAS DISCUSSED LAST MEETING. ONE OTHER NOTE I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE, AS BEFORE, WE GO FORWARD IN THIS PROCESS AND DO THE PUBLIC HEARING. I KNOW THERE WAS A LIST OF QUESTIONS THAT CITY COUNCIL REQUESTED. I BELIEVE THAT WAS SENT OUT YESTERDAY. JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU ALL HAD ALL THE INFORMATION AS WE GO FORWARD IN THIS DECISION. WANT TO KNOW IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS OF ME BEFORE WE GO FORWARD WITH THE PUBLIC HEARING? OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL YOUR WORK ON THIS. FIRST, I'LL OPEN UP THE FLOOR FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING AND WE'LL COME BACK FOR ANY QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT. NOW, THIS IS THE PUBLIC HEARING TO APPROVE THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT FUNDS FOR PROGRAM YEAR 25, 26 AND FISCAL YEAR 26, AS RECOMMENDED BY THE CDBG ADVISORY BOARD, MR. NICHOLSON. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR BILL NICHOLSON, 225 HIGH STREET AND THE PRESIDENT OF PETERSBURG AREA ART LEAGUE. GOOD EVENING, CITY COUNCIL. MAYOR, WE ARE RESPECTFULLY REQUESTING MONEY SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT THE ART LEAGU. IN THE PAST TWO AND A HALF YEARS, WE'VE MADE SUBSTANTIAL IMPROVEMENTS TO THE BUILDING, WHICH INCLUDING ALL NEW BATHROOMS, NEW ROOF, NEW AIR 
          [02:15:02]
CONDITIONING AND SECURING THE SPACE. WE'VE DONE THIS SO THAT WE CAN PROVIDE A CLEAN SPACE, MOLD FREE ENVIRONMENT WHERE WE CAN PROVIDE CLASSROOMS OR CLASSES, EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS AND EVENTS FOR THE CITIZENS OF PETERSBURG. WE HAVE NOT ONLY PROVIDED A PLATFORM FOR LOCAL ARTISTS AND LOCAL MUSICIANS FREE OF CHARGE, WE ALSO HAVE BROUGHT ON BOARD PEOPLE FROM OUTSIDE OF THE AREA, AND IN AN EFFORT TO ELEVATE THE ART LEAGUE AND THE CITY OF PETERSBURG, AND FOR EXAMPLE, THE MOST RECENT INDIVIDUAL THAT WE BROUGHT CREATED A VIDEO OF PETERSBURG, WHICH HAS NOW HAD OVER 20,000 VIEWS ON YOUTUBE, AND HE HAS 600,000 FOLLOWERS AND 35 MILLION VIEWS OF HIS OWN WORKS. SO WE ENGAGE THESE, THESE TALENTS TO ELEVATE PETERSBURG AND THEN MAKE PROGRAMS, CREATE PROGRAMS THAT WE CAN MAKE ACCESSIBLE TO CITIZENS AND CHILDREN. VSU ARGS. 
          ONE NOTABLE EVENT THAT WE HAVE COMING UP WITH THESE IMPROVEMENTS WILL HELP US SUBSTANTIALLY, AS WE HAVE A GUEST SPEAKER WHO WAS A SIT IN ON THE MOVEMENT IN 1961, IN JACKSON, MISSISSIPPI, AND SHE SPENT TWO MONTHS IN JAIL. AND SHE'S COMING TO PETERSBURG ON SEPTEMBER 13TH TO DO A SPECIAL PRESENTATION, A MOVIE AND A SPEECH FOR US. AND WE WANT TO DO IT IN THE ART PARK, BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE PROPER EQUIPMENT OR LIGHTING, SOUND SYSTEM, SCREEN TO CONTINUE TO DO OUTSIDE PROGRAMS. AND WE'VE TRIED TO DO PROGRAMS IN THE PAST OUTSIDE, BUT WE'VE NOT BEEN ABLE TO DO IT BECAUSE WE WERE NOT ABLE TO PRODUCE THE EQUIPMENT NEEDED. SO THIS GRANT WILL PROVIDE US THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE ART PARK, WHICH WILL BENEFIT. THE PROGRAMS WE DO FOR LOCAL MUSICIANS, LOCAL TALENT PROGRAMS, LOCAL PERFORMING ARTISTS AND THEN OTHERS THAT WE CAN BRING FROM OUTSIDE OF THE AREA THAT PROVIDE EXPOSURE TO THE STUDENTS AND THE RESIDENTS OF PETERSBURG THAT THEY LIKELY WOULD NOT HAVE OTHERWISE. SO WE APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION AND LOOK FORWARD TO GETTING SOME FUNDS TO KEEP THE MOMENTUM ROLLING AT THE ART LEAGUE. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. MR. LINEKER. MY NAME IS LEONARD CURRY. I LIVE AT 2014 WOODLAND ROAD AND I'M A MEMBER OF THE CDBG ADVISORY COMMITTEE, AND I'M SPEAKING NOW BECAUSE LAST YEAR OUR RECOMMENDATIONS WERE IGNORED BY THE COUNCIL, WHICH GAVE ALL THE MONEY TO PARKS. OUR COMMITTEE MEETS CITIZENS ALL THROUGH THE YEAR, AND WE HEAR WHAT THE COMMUNITY NEEDS. AND THIS IS A HOUSING PROGRAM. BASICALLY, IT COMES FROM HUD, AND WE HAVE 150 HOMES IN THIS TOWN THAT BELONG TO PRIMARILY WIDOWS AND WIDOWERS, PEOPLE WHO ARE MY AGE, WHO AND I KNOW THEM. THEY WERE DOING THE CIVIL RIGHTS THINGS, THE 60S AND SITTING IN CAFES AND TRYING TO OPEN THEM UP AND SO ON. THEY HAVE ROOFS THAT LEAK, THEY HAVE BAD PLUMBING, AND WE SPEND ABOUT 10 OR 15,000 ON THESE HOMES. NOW, SOME OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS LAST YEAR SAID, WELL, WHY DON'T THEY GET INSURANCE? WELL, THE NEEDS FOR THESE HOMES ARE NOT COVERED BY INSURANCE. INSURANCE HAPPENS WHEN A TREE FALLS IN YOUR HOUSE. THIS IS JUST FROM NEGLECT. A LOT OF THE HOMES HAVE BEEN RED TAGGED, BUT THESE WIDOWS CAN'T MOVE OUT. THEY'RE STILL LIVING IN THEIR RED. RED TAGGED HOME. SO I APPEALED TO YOU TO PLEASE KEEP THE CRITICAL HOME REPAIR FUNDS GOING. THAT'S GOING TO REHAB FOR HISTORIC PRESERVATION. HABITAT FOR HUMANITY, AND SO ON. 
          AND SO THAT'S MY APPEAL. PLEASE DO NOT SHIFT THE FUNDS AWAY FROM THE CRITICAL NEEDS OF WIDOWS AND WIDOWERS. THEY'RE LIVING IN HOMES THAT OFTEN THEY INHERITED. THEY'VE BEEN LIVING IN THESE HOUSES SO LONG THAT THEY EVEN SHOW UP THE PRICE OF THE SALE WHEN THEY BOUGHT IT DOESN'T EVEN SHOW UP IN THE ASSESSOR'S WEBSITE. SO THAT'S MY APPEAL. PLEASE DON'T CHANGE THE FUNDING. 
          LET'S MOVE AHEAD WITH CRITICAL HOME REPAIR 150 HOUSES. WE'RE ONLY ADDRESS ABOUT 40 OF THEM. 
          [02:20:04]
BUT PLEASE DON'T FORGET THEM. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. YES, MISS MARLOWE GREEN. ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING AGAIN, CITY COUNCIL GREEN, 301 WHARF STREET, HERE JUST TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF OUR COMMUNITY EMPOWERMENT GROUP, WHICH I AM THE FOUNDER AND PRESIDENT. THE FUNDS THAT WE'RE REQUESTING IS ACTUALLY THE LEAST AMOUNT OF MONEY BEING REQUESTED HERE. BUT THEN ALSO, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO IS UTILIZE THOSE FUNDS TO DIRECTLY IMPACT THE POCAHONTAS ISLAND NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH IS A HISTORIC DISTRICT. A NUMBER OF PEOPLE RECEIVED SOME CODE COMPLIANCE NOTICES, AND WE WANT TO TRY TO HELP FOLKS KEEP THEIR HOMES AND GET THOSE UP TO PAR. SO THE GOAL WOULD BE TO ACTUALLY DO SOME HOME ASSESSMENTS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BECAUSE SOME FOLKS THAT DID NOT RECEIVE CODE COMPLIANCE NOTES ACTUALLY HAVE ROOFING ISSUES, PLUMBING ISSUES, THINGS LIKE THAT. SO WE WOULD HAVE IS A CLASS A CONTRACTOR WHO'S CONSIDERED A FIXER UPPER COACH TO KIND OF TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE PROPERTIES AND GIVE US SOME INSIGHT ON WHAT THINGS ARE GOING TO COST, SOME COST ESTIMATE INFORMATION WHICH COULD THEN BE SHARED. AND WE CAN WORK DIRECTLY WITH PHILANTHROPISTS, PRIVATE DONORS, PEOPLE LIKE THAT, AND OTHER NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS TO GET THAT FUNDING TO ASSIST THOSE FOLKS SO THEY CAN STAY IN THEIR HOMES. BECAUSE IN MOST CASES, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE, IN SOME CASES, IT'S THE CODE COMPLIANCE NOTICES THAT KIND OF PUSH PEOPLE OUT. 
          THEN IN OTHER CASES, PEOPLE JUST CAN'T THEY DON'T HAVE A SAFE DWELLING TO LIVE IN. AND SO WE WANT TO TRY TO HELP THOSE FOLKS AND IMPACT THE COMMUNITY. I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE BEEN IN POCAHONTAS ISLAND. YOU CAN SEE THE BLIGHT. WE WANT TO FIX THAT. AND THAT'S THE PURPOSE BEHIND OUR PROPOSAL. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU, BOB RUDOLPH. THANK YOU. BARB RUDOLPH, 1675 MOUNT VERNON STREET. I WANT TO UNDERSCORE WHAT MR. CURRY SAID, WHICH IS PLEASE ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATIONS AS PROVIDED TO YOU BY THE CDBG ADVISORY BOARD. 
          DON'T MODIFY THEM. DON'T BASE IT ON ANY PARTICULAR NONPROFIT GROUP. THAT'S ANYBODY ON COUNCIL HAS ISSUES WITH. I MEAN, THIS HAS BEEN CAREFULLY VETTED BY THE CDBG FOLKS I ATTEND. I USED TO ATTEND AT LEAST ONE OF THEIR MEETINGS EVERY YEAR TO JUST TO KIND OF SEE WHAT'S GOING ON. AND I'M VERY IMPRESSED WITH HOW HARD THEY WORK AND HOW SERIOUS THEY ARE ABOUT THIS. AND, I MEAN, YOU'VE ALREADY HEARD FROM A COUPLE OF THE NONPROFITS THAT WOULD BENEFIT FROM THESE RECOMMENDATIONS. AND, YOU KNOW, I KNOW BOTH OF THEM ARE VERY WORTHY. AND I, I, I'M FAMILIAR WITH QUITE A FEW OF THE OTHER ONES. AND I THINK THAT THIS IS AN EXCELLENT CROSS-SECTION OF NEED IN OUR COMMUNITY. OF COURSE, THERE'S NOT ENOUGH MONEY TO TAKE CARE OF EVERYTHING AND SOME THINGS GET LEFT OFF, BUT I DO THINK THIS IS WORTHY OF YOUR APPROVAL WITHOUT ANY FURTHER MODIFICATIONS. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. SEEING NO OTHER HANDS, THIS PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED. NEXT DISCUSSION FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS. COUNCILMAN MYERS. YES, SIR. MR. MAYOR, ACCORDING TO OUR LIST HERE, THE LAST ONE RECEIVED. I HAVE A DIFFERENCE OF $3,375.09. 
          HOWEVER, WITH RESPECT TO THIS PARTICULAR MOTION, I'M NOT GOING TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT PARTICULARD LEAVE IT BACK IN THE POT. BUT I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU THIS MOTION. AS IT RIDES. I MOVE THAT WE ADOPT THE FOLLOWING ALLOCATIONS AS LISTED IN FURTHERANCE. I MOVE THAT THE CITY MANAGER AT OUR RETREAT PROVIDE A SCOPE OF REGULATORY RECOMMENDATIONS BASED ON THE NEEDED IMPROVEMENTS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY FOR PEOPLE'S ADVANTAG. FEDERAL CREDIT UNION, THE COUNCIL $101,467 FOR THE YMCA, $19,412. LET'S SEE FOR PRETTY PURPOSED, $9,706 FOR PARKS AND LEISURE DEPARTMENT, $166,751. I'M GETTING TO THAT. FOR BLACK RESILIENCE AND ADVANCEMENT THROUGH VOLUNTEERING AND EMPOWERMENT. BRAVE. WE GAVE $5,000. DOWNTOWN CHURCHES UNITED $2,000 COALITION ON HOMELESSNESS, THE CAPITAL AREA COALITION ON HOMELESSNESS, AND THE VIRGINIA COMMUNITY RESOURCE CENTER IN CONJUNCTION $88,000 HEALTHY START LOVING STEPS 
          [02:25:06]
$9,706. THE ALAMO RECOVERY HOUSE, $20,000. HEBRON, $19,438. ADMINISTRATION AND OPERATIONS $116,000. AND POWELL AND POWELL $15,250. YOU SAID THOUSAND TO DOWNTOWN CHURCHES. IS THAT. 
          THERE'S A DIFFERENCE? IF I COULD CITY COUNCIL, THERE WAS AN UPDATED VERSION THAT CORRESPONDS WITH THE 585 VERSUS THE 582. SO I KNOW YOU HAVE SPOKE TO THAT EARLIER. COUNCILMAN MYERS, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S RECONCILED THAT EXTRA $3,000. OKAY. AND. YOU KNOW. 
          COUNCILMAN JONES, I SECOND RYAN DISCUSSION OF THE MOTION. SEEING THEM, MISS HILL. PLEASE CALL CALL THE ROLL. COUNCIL MEMBER. CUTHBERT. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER. JONES. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER. 
          MYERS. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER. SMITH. LEE. NO. MAYOR. PAIR I ABSTAINED BECAUSE I ACCEPT THE CDBG RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE BOARD. EARLIER. THE OTHER. COUNCILOR BASSAN. ALL RIGHT. 
          SPEAK AS A PUBLIC HEARING AND EVERYTHING HAD CLOSED. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. NEXT WE MOVE ON TO THE 
          [9. Public Information Period]
PUBLIC INFORMATION PERIOD. IT WAS STRAIGHTFORWARD. RIGHT? YEAH, YEAH. SO WE HAD A PUBLIC RIGHT NOW WE'RE DOING THE PUBLIC INFORMATION PERIOD, WHICH IS LIMITING TIME TO 30 MINUTES. 
          SHOULD BE PART OF OUR ORDER OF BUSINESS. AT EACH REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING, EACH SPEAKER SHOULD BE A RESIDENT OR BUSINESS OWNER OF THE CITY AND SHALL BE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES. NO SPEAKER WILL BE PERMITTED TO SPEAK ON ANY ITEM SCHEDULED FOR CONSIDERATION OF REGULAR DOCKET. 
          THE MEETING AT WHICH THE SPEAKER IS TO SPEAK THE ORDER OF SPEAKER IS LIMITED BY THE 30 MINUTE TIME PERIOD, SHALL BE DETERMINED AS FOLLOWS A FIRST IN CHRONOLOGICAL ORDER OF THE NOTICE. PERSONS WHO HAVE NOTIFIED THE CLERK NO LATER THAN 12:00 NOON THE DAY OF THE MEETING. B SECOND, IN CHRONOLOGICAL ORDER OF THEIR SIGN UP. PERSONS WHO HAVE SIGNED THE SIGN UP SHEET PLACED BY THE CLERK IN THE REAR OF THE MEETING ROOM PRIOR TO THE MEETING, REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA. 
          ALL RIGHT, LYNN HARRISON. ALL RIGHT, TANYA BECKETT. ALL. NEXT IS PAUL. PAULA CHESTER. OKAY, PERFECT. ALL RIGHT. NEXT IS KRISTA. AND MARY. MURPHY. EDUCATION LICENSE. NEXT IS. CARE UP A JORDAN? YES. THANK YOU. I GUESS I INTRODUCE MYSELF AGAIN. GOOD EVENING AGAIN I'M CHAIR JORDAN, AND I'M AT 427 SOUTH ADAMS STREET AND. LET'S SEE, I JUST WANTED TO. THIS SHOULD BE QUICK BECAUSE I WROTE IT DOWN. SO AS I STATED EARLIER, WELL, SIX MONTHS AFTER CLOSING ON MY SOUTH ADAMS PETERSBURG HOME, I WAS ON THE PHONE WITH THE REALTOR AND A LOAN OFFICER. WHY WOULD THIS BE? BECAUSE PARK GROUNDS GRASSES ARE AS HIGH AS MY SHINS, AND IN SOME PLACES AS HIGH AS MY KNEES, CREATING NEAR IMPOSSIBLE CONDITIONS TO PICK UP AFTER MY PUPPY. A BUCKLED BRIDGE THAT'S RECENTLY ROPED OFF BUT NOT REPAIRED, RESTRICTING PARK USE, A BEAUTIFUL 40 YEAR OLD FLOWER BED ADORNING THE FOUNTAIN WHACKED INTO OBLIVION, LEAVING A HURTFUL, UNSIGHTLY MESS. 
          SIDEWALK WEEDS HIP HIGH, GROWING IN THE SIDEWALK CRACKS DILAPIDATED FENCES LEANING 
          [02:30:06]
HEAVILY INTO THE SIDEWALK AREA NEXT TO MY HOME. ILLEGAL DUMPING EVERYWHERE, LIKELY EXACERBATED BY THE CITY DUMP. REFUSING RESTRICTION, I MEAN REFUSING CITIZENS A TREE, ACTIVELY GROWING INTO SERVICE LINES AND SERVICE COMPANIES ALL PASSING THE BUCK. AND FINALLY, AND THE WORST VEHICLE DRIVERS MOVING THROUGH AND STANDING IN RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS WITH MUSIC SO LOUD THAT THE BASS RUMBLES, INTERIOR WALLS AND RESIDENTS HOMES AND MOVING KNICKKNACKS ACROSS TABLES. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. NEXT IS MISS JANINE LESTER. 
          GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, I'M JANINE LESTER. I JUST WANT TO INTRODUCE MYSELF AS THE NEW CITY ARBORIST FOR THE CITY OF PETERSBURG. I'VE BEEN WORKING IN PLANNING. THIS IS MY THIRD WEEK, AND I'M VERY PLEASED TO BE HERE. HOPING THAT WE COULD GET THROUGH THIS AGENDA. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WILL HAPPEN TONIGHT, BUT I HOPE THAT YOU WILL CONSIDER OUR STRATEGIC TREE CANOPY PLAN FOR THE CITY, BECAUSE I REALLY NEED SOMETHING TO DO. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MISS LESTER. NEXT IS MISS BARB RUDOLPH. BARB RUDOLPH, 1675 MOUNT VERNON STREET. WELCOME, JANINE. I'M THRILLED WE HAVE A CITY ARBORIST. AND I'M GLAD SHE'S HERE TO HEAR THIS, BECAUSE. EXCUSE ME, I'M GOING TO GO. I MEAN, I'VE BEEN BUILDING UP TO THIS RANT FOR MONTHS, SO PLEASE BEAR WITH ME. I APOLOGIZE, BUT STARTING WITH WHAT THIS OTHER LADY JUST ALLUDED TO, WHICH IS POPLAR LAWN PARK, THE HYDRANGEA SHRUBS THAT WERE SURROUNDING THE FOUNTAIN, AND SOME OTHER THINGS THAT WERE PLANTED THERE. I KNOW MYSELF BECAUSE I PICKED SOME DRY FLOWERS FROM IT LAST FALL. THEY WERE BEAUTIFUL PLANTS. THEY WERE BEAUTIFUL. THERE WAS ABSOLUTELY NO REASON TO CUT THOSE DOWN. AND SPEAKING WITH A CITY STAFF MEMBER, I. I WAS TOLD THAT IT WAS, YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE A HUGE ERROR THAT WAS MADE BY PUBLIC WORKS. WE NEED THIS IS IT'S INEXCUSABLE. I MEAN, IF THEY WERE GOING TO CUT, SUPPOSEDLY THEY WERE GOING TO CUT VINES OFF OF A BUILDING THAT'S IN A DIFFERENT PART OF THE PARK. BUT SOMEHOW THEY FOUND THEIR WAY OVER TO THE FOUNTAIN AND BUTCHERED ALL THOSE PLANTS, WHICH IS A TRAVESTY. THEN WE HAVE ANOTHER INCIDENT THAT HAPPENED, I THINK FURTHER BACK, BUT STILL WITHIN THE PAST YEAR WAS THERE WERE TWO BEAUTIFUL JAPANESE MAPLES FLANKING THE STEPS TO THE EXCHANGE BUILDING. 
          THOSE WERE ELIMINATED. SO I ASKED ABOUT THAT AND THAT WAS THEY WERE GROWING TOO CLOSE TO THE BUILDING OR IS SOMEHOW WAS INTRUDING. NOW, I KNOW A LOT ABOUT JAPANESE MAPLES. I KNOW THERE'S YOU GUYS THINK I'M A KNOW IT ALL, BUT I ACTUALLY DO KNOW SOMETHING ABOUT THEM AND THEY ARE NOT HARD TO PRUNE. THEY ARE NOT INVASIVE. THEY'RE NOT THE KIND OF PLANT THAT'S GOING TO BUCKLE ANY FOUNDATIONS OR DAMAGE ANYTHING. THEY'RE HIGHLY ORNAMENTAL. I CERTAINLY HOPE THEY WEREN'T REMOVED BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT NATIVE PLANTS. AND I HOPE THAT MISS JANINE IS SOMEBODY WHO APPRECIATES THE BEAUTY OF PLANTS THAT ARE NOT NATIVE TO VIRGINIA. BECAUSE IF WE GOT RID OF ALL THE NON-NATIVE PLANTS, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A PRETTY BARREN CITY. WE'LL HAVE A LOT OF TREES, BUT WE WON'T HAVE MUCH ELSE. SO I ASK THAT YOU PLEASE, PLEASE DO IS EMPLOY PEOPLE. AND HAVING AN ARBORIST IS DEFINITELY A START. BUT EMPLOYEE PEOPLE IN THE CITY WHO KNOW SOMETHING ABOUT PLANTS AND TAKING CARE OF THEM. AND I'D BE HAPPY TO DONATE MY TIME TO PRUNE JAPANESE MAPLES ANYWHERE IN THE CITY. I'D BE HAPPY TO MAKE THEM, TO ACCOMMODATE THEM TO THE SPACE THEY'RE IN. AND THEN ONE LAST THING, WHICH I'VE MENTIONED BEFORE. NOW, THIS ISN'T THE CITY'S DOING, BUT I'M HOPING THAT YOU ALL CAN INTERCEDE WITH DOMINION, BECAUSE THE TREE CUTTING THAT'S BEEN GOING ON WITH THEIR CONTRACTOR, XYLEM IS A JOKE. THE I MEAN, I THINK THEY'RE LOOKING AT IT SOLELY FROM THE STANDPOINT OF WE DON'T WANT BRANCHES HANGING OVER THE POWER LINES. SO THERE ARE TREES ON SYCAMORE THAT ARE CUT. THEY'RE CUT OFF. SO YOU'VE GOT A TREE, A TREE TRUNK AND BRANCHES COMING OFF TOWARD THE BUILDING, BUT ON THE STREET SIDE WHERE THE POWER LINES ARE, THEY'RE DENUDED. THERE'S NO BRANCHES. SO I GUESS DOMINION'S HAPPY, BECAUSE IF THE TREE, WHEN THE TREE FALLS, IT'S GOING TO FALL ON THE ON THE HOUSE OR THE STRUCTURE THAT'S BEHIND IT, BECAUSE THERE'S NO THERE'S NO STRUCTURE TO THE TREE LEFT 
          [02:35:05]
THAT'S ON THE OTHER SIDE. IT'S TOTALLY UNBALANCED. AND I KNOW FROM EXPERIENCE THAT THAT THAT KIND OF PRUNING WILL KILL A TREE. AND WE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A CANOPY, A TREE CANOPY PLAN. AND I'M GRATEFUL FOR ALL OF THAT. I'M GRATEFUL FOR PLANTING NEW TREES. BUT WE HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF THE ONES WE HAVE. AND WE HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF MUTILATED TREES IN THIS CITY RIGHT NOW. AND IF WE'RE ALLOWED TO SHOW PICTURES AGAIN, I'LL BRING PICTURES. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. NEXT WE GO ON TO BUSINESS REPORTS. YEAH, HE. WASN'T DOING THAT. 
          [10. Business or reports from the Mayor or other Members of City Council]
OKAY. NEXT WE GO TO ITEM TEN BUSINESS REPORTS FROM THE MAYOR, OTHER MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL. 
          COUNCILMAN COOPER. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. TWO THINGS. ONE, I WANT TO ECHO THE COMMENTS. THAT WERE MADE BY THE LADY ON SOUTH ADAMS AND ALSO MISS RUDOLPH. THAT WAS JUST INEXCUSABLE. WHAT PUBLIC WORKS DID TO THE HYDRANGEAS, I MEAN. WHAT DO YOU CUT DOWN? FLOWERS. WE CAN'T GET THEM TO CUT WEEDS IN PETERSBURG. BUT LORD HELP US, THEY SEE A FLOWER. THEY GO GO GET IT. YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WHAT KIND OF SENSE DOES THAT MAKE? NONE AT ALL. SOMETHING'S WRONG. IN PUBLIC WORKS. THERE'S INADEQUATE OVERSIGHT. IT'S NOT THE FAULT OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE UNDIRECTED. 
          IT'S THE FAULT OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE SUPPOSED TO BE DIRECTING THEM. SO I HOPE WE DO BETTER IN THE FUTURE. MR. ALTMAN. THANK YOU. SECOND THING, I'VE GOT A WARD FOUR MEETING SCHEDULED FOR WEDNESDAY, JULY 9TH, IN THIS ROOM STARTING AT 530. THE PURPOSE OF THE MEETING IS TO CONTINUE OUR DISCUSSION ABOUT SPEEDING AND WAYS TO MITIGATE IT. MINIMIZE IT. I UNDERSTAND THAT THE ADMINISTRATION HAS WORKED ON SOME TRAFFIC CALMING TECHNIQUES AND ABILITY TO APPLY THOSE TECHNIQUES TO OUR PROBLEM AREAS, AND THAT THE ADMINISTRATION WILL BE PRESENTING ITS CONCLUSIONS AND ITS PROGRESS AT THAT MEETING. THIS IS A CONTINUATION OF THE MEETING THAT WAS HELD IN MAY, WHICH I THOUGHT WAS VERY HELPFUL IN KIND OF SETTING THE TABLE, YOU MIGHT SAY, FOR MOVING FORWARD, IDENTIFYING THE PROBLEM AREAS AND SOME GOOD DISCUSSION ON WAYS TO ADDRESS THE PROBLEMS. SO JULY 9TH, WEDNESDAY, THIS ROOM 530 SPEEDING UP TO BE TO ADDRESS TRAFFIC CALMING REQUEST FORMS THAT I SUBMITTED FOR SPEEDING IN THE 1718 HUNDRED BLOCKS OF SOUTH CRATER ROAD, THE 200 BLOCK OF HENRY STREET, LOW STREET, MYRICK AVENUE, AND WEST BANK STREET. THOSE TRAFFIC CALMING REQUESTS ARE SUBMITTED, EACH ONE OF THEM IN RESPONSE TO A CONSTITUENT COMPLAINT. SPEEDING IS A REAL PROBLEM IN MANY AREAS OF THE FOURTH WARD. 
          IT SEEMS LIKE MANY OF OUR, MAYBE MOST OF OUR HEAVILY TRAFFICKED CORRIDORS ARE IN THE FOURTH WARD. SO THE CRATER ROAD, WASHINGTON STREET WITH STREET, SYCAMORE STREET, SOUTH BOULEVARD, WE HAVE A PROBLEM. AND WE'RE ALSO GOING TO TALK ABOUT SPEEDING ON LIBERTY STREET, SOUTH SYCAMORE, NORTH SYCAMORE IN THE FIRST TWO BLOCKS OF EAST FILLMORE, AND ANY OTHER STREETS THAT MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WANT TO BRING BEFORE US. AND WE'RE GOING TO ACCOMPLISH SOMETHING. BY GOLLY. AND IF WE DON'T GET IT ALL DONE ON JULY 9TH, WE'LL HAVE A THIRD ROUND. 
          SO I'LL COME BE WITH US. BRING YOU A TRAFFIC CONCERNS JULY 9TH WEDNESDAY 530. THIS ROOM. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN JONES. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING AT THIS MOMENT. THANK YOU. OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT, COUNCILMAN MYERS, NOTHING AT THIS TIME, SIR. OKAY. COUNCILWOMAN SMITH. LEE, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING AT THIS TIME. OKAY, NEXT UP WITH ME, I JUST WANT TO WISH EVERYBODY A HAPPY JUNETEENTH HOLIDAY. COMING UP THIS THURSDAY. EMPLOYEES GET A DAY OFF, WHICH IS GREAT. AND WE REALLY HAD A WONDERFUL JUNETEENTH EVENT AT PETERSBURG HIGH SCHOOL. THE GREAT CONCERT 
          [02:40:01]
HAD A TREMENDOUS TURNOUT DESPITE THE STORMS OUTSIDE. BUT MY ONLY THING I HAVE IS FOR THE CITY MANAGER. AND I KNOW WE HAD $17 MILLION IN THE DAVENPORT THING FOR BRIDGES, BRIDGES REPAIR. 
          WHERE ARE WE ON? ON THE OAK HILL BRIDGE REPAIR. SO WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH OAK HILL, GETTING THE DESIGNS TOGETHER SO WE CAN PUT IT OUT TO BID. SO THAT'S THAT IS IN PROGRESS, MR. MAYOR. 
          SO THAT'S NOT INCLUDED IN WHAT DAVENPORT SHOW, RIGHT? NO, SIR. OKAY. NO, YOU WE'VE APPROPRIATED THOSE FUNDS AND THAT'S READY TO GO. OKAY. PERFECT. ALL RIGHT. NEXT WE GO TO ITEMS REMOVED FROM 
          [12. Finance and Budget Report]
THE CONSENT AGENDA. THERE ARE NO ITEMS TONIGHT. NEXT IS ITEM 12, FINANCE AND BUDGET REPORT. WE HAVE A DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE MONTHLY UPDATE, MR. KOCHER. OKAY. GOOD EVENING. GARY COZIER, BUDGET MANAGER. SO I'M JUST GOING TO QUICKLY RUN THROUGH THIS MONTHLY UPDATE. WE'RE GOING TO START WITH BUDGET TO ACTUALS. WE'RE GOING TO END WITH OUR EARNED INTEREST UPDATE. SO ON BUDGET TO ACTUALS RIGHT. 11 OUT OF THE 12 MONTHS OF THE FISCAL YEAR HAVE ELAPSED. SO 91% OF THE YEAR IS GONE. AND WE'RE LOOKING AT, BOTTOM LINE, 87% OF SPEND. SO WE ARE DOING WELL AS FAR AS YOU KNOW OVERALL WHERE WE ARE, WHAT WE BUDGETED AND WHAT HAS BEEN SPENT THUS FAR FOR THE GENERAL FUND. HERE'S A LOOK AT THE OTHER FUNDS. ONLY ONE THAT'S REALLY OVER IS DOGWOOD. BUT AS WE KNOW, DOGWOOD IS SUPPORTED BY REVENUES. SO OUR OUR ENTERPRISE FUNDS ARE SELF-SUPPORTING. SO WE'RE WE'RE NOT CONCERNED WITH THAT OVERSPEND BECAUSE WE ALSO HAVE MORE REVENUES MOVING ON TO EARN INTERESTS. SO HERE WE ARE THE AMENDED BUDGET PROJECTION FOR EARNED INTEREST, AS WE KNOW MOVED TO $2.2 MILLION. IT WAS ORIGINALLY $1.4 MILLION. AND SO FAR WE HAVE EARNED $2.177 MILLION. WE ARE FULLY EXPECTING TO HIT OUR OUR TARGET OF 2.2 MILLION WITH THE ONE MONTH LEFT IN THE FISCAL YEAR. AND THAT'S JUST KIND OF WHERE WE ARE. SO WE WILL CONTINUE TO INVEST THAT MONEY AND MAKE IT WORK FOR US WITHOUT US HAVING TO DO ANYTHING. AND THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. KOCHER. YOU AND THE FINANCE TEAM THERE. LEON, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR HARD WORK AND KEEPING THE CITY MOVING. NEXT WE MOVE ON TO ITEM 13. ITEMS A, B, C, AND D 
          [13. Unfinished Business]
WILL BE TABLED UNTIL THE MEETING IN JULY. NEXT, WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM 14 B, WHICH IS. OKAY. 13 RIGHT, A, B, C, A, B AND C IS TABLED UNTIL OUR MEETING IN JULY. FIRST MEETING IN JULY. 
          NEXT WE GO TO ITEM D WHICH IS A RESOLUTION OF COUNCIL SUPPORT AND ADOPTION OF THE STRATEGIC TREE CANOPY PLAN. THANK YOU MAYOR. YOU MADE ME A LITTLE NERVOUS ON THAT ONE. I AM EXCITED TO HAVE WITH US HERE TODAY. YOU ALL JUST MET JANINE LESTER, OUR NEW CITY ARBORIST. 
          SHE'S ALMOST THREE WEEKS IN. EXCITED TO BE HERE AND EXCITED EXCITED TO HELP IMPLEMENT THIS EFFORT. YOU'VE HEARD FROM OUR CONSULTANTS BEFORE, THE GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE CENTER. WE HAVE KENDALL AND JESSICA HERE. THEY'RE GOING TO KEEP IT SHORT. THEY'RE GOING TO KEEP IT SWEET. 
          WE'VE HAD A LOT OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT ON THIS. WE'RE SUPER EXCITED TO MOVE FORWARD. SO HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET APPROVAL FOR A RESOLUTION OF YOUR SUPPORT. THANKS SO MUCH. THANK YOU CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR YOUR TIME. WE ARE THE GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE CENTER AND ENVIRONMENTAL PLANNING NONPROFIT WHO HAVE BEEN CONSULTANTS TO THE CITY ON THE STRATEGIC TREE CANOPY PLAN. TONIGHT'S PRESENTATION IS AN OVERVIEW THAT COVERS THE SECTIONS OF THAT PLAN. THE PROGRAM IS THANKS TO FUNDING BY THE USDA FOREST SERVICE AND THE VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF FORESTRY. THE OFFICIAL NAME OF THE PROGRAM IS THE COMMUNITY FOREST REVITALIZATION PROGRAM. THERE'S TWO PHASES CITYWIDE PLANNING EFFORT, AND THE SECOND PHASE IS A COMMUNITY FOCUSED IMPLEMENTATION, WHICH IS BASICALLY PLANTING SOME TREES FOR THE TREE CANOPY COVER AND BENEFITS. WE STARTED WITH MAPPING THE LAND COVER OF PETERSBURG, AND WE FOUND THE TOTAL LAND COVER THAT THE CITY HAS IS 45% TREE CANOPY COVERAGE. 
          A KEY TAKEAWAY IS THAT TREES ARE NOT EVENLY DISTRIBUTED ACROSS NEIGHBORHOODS. THERE'S A 75% DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SOME NEIGHBORHOODS. THE IMPORTANCE OF FOCUSING ON URBAN FORESTS IS MULTIFACETED. TREES BENEFIT COMMUNITY HEALTH. THEY CAN SAVE THE COMMUNITY MONEY BY REDUCING ENERGY USE, RAISING REAL ESTATE VALUE, AND BEAUTIFYING THE CITY, JUST TO NAME A FEW. ONE OF THE 
          [02:45:06]
BIGGEST FOCUSES PETERSBURG RESIDENTS HAVE TOLD US IN COMMUNITY FEEDBACK IS TO TARGET URBAN HEAT. SINCE THE AVERAGE DAYS OVER 100 DEGREES IS PROJECTED TO INCREASE. EXTREME HEAT IS ONE OF THE REASONS TO PLANT TREES. AIR QUALITY HAS ALSO BEEN FLAGGED BY THE COMMUNITY. WE KNOW THAT WELL. TREE NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE LOWER RATES OF ASTHMA AND RESPIRATORY ILLNESSES, ESPECIALLY IN CHILDREN. THE INFORMATION INCLUDED IN THIS PLAN REFLECTS THE OBJECTIVES OF PETERSBURG'S UPDATED COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND TREES PLAY A TREMENDOUS ROLE IN FLOOD REDUCTION AND BY UNDERSTANDING THE VALUE AND LOCATIONS OF THOSE TREES, WE CAN PLAN FOR MORE RESILIENT PETERSBURG. SO THE TREE CANOPY GOAL SET IN THIS PLAN IS TO MAINTAIN A TREE CANOPY COVERAGE OF 43% OVER THE NEXT 20 YEARS. THIS GOAL ACCOUNTS FOR PETERSBURG PROJECTED FUTURE DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS, SO WE'RE STRIVING TO MANAGE AND MAINTAIN LOSS OF TREES THROUGH A COORDINATED EFFORT BY BOTH THE CITY AND PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS. SO THESE ARE THE STRATEGIES WE CAME UP WITH, BOTH PARTNERING WITH CITY STAFF AS WELL AS THE COMMUNITY TO ACHIEVE THAT GOAL OF MAINTAINING, AT 43%, THE FIRST ONE THE CITY HAS ALREADY ACHIEVED. CONGRATULATIONS! YOU'VE ALREADY HIRED A CITY ARBORIST TO MANAGE YOUR TREES. I WILL LEAN CLOSER. OBJECTIVE TWO IS TO INCREASE THE CITY'S CAPACITY TO CARE FOR NEWLY PLANTED TREES AND PUBLIC PROJECTS, WATERING THEM, ENSURING THEY SURVIVE. TO MAKE SURE THESE VOLUNTEER EFFORTS SEE LONGEVITY OBJECTIVE THREE PAIRS ALONG JUST WITH OBJECTIVE TWO, WHICH IS TO TRAIN CITY STAFF AND METHODS OF GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE. VEGETATION MANAGEMENT ESSENTIALLY HOW TO TAKE CARE OF BMPS TREES, SHRUBS TO ENSURE THEIR LONGEVITY, TO PROVIDE US BENEFITS IN THE FUTURE. OBJECTIVE FOUR IS TO ENSURE LONG TERM SUCCESS BY FOLLOWING THE RIGHT TREE RIGHT PLACE POLICY, WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY PUTTING THE RIGHT TREE SPECIES WHERE IT SHOULD BE. SO, FOR EXAMPLE, NOT PLANTING A 100 FOOT TALL OAK TREE UNDERNEATH A POWER LINE. SO DEVELOPING SPECIES LIST TO HELP EDUCATE THE PUBLIC AS WELL AS THE CITY ON WHERE TO, WHAT TO PUT WHERE IN DEVELOPMENT AND IN FUTURE PLANNING. NOW OBJECTIVE FIVE IS TO EXPAND COMMUNITY KNOWLEDGE AND SUPPORT FOR THIS TREE PLANTING AND MAINTENANCE TO ENCOURAGE HEALTHY TREES BOTH ON PUBLIC AND PRIVATE PROPERTY. AND THAT ALSO INCLUDES EXPANDING COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT IN TREE STEWARDSHIP AS WELL. NOW, OBJECTIVE SEVEN IS TO INCREASE THE PRESERVATION OF THE EXISTING LARGE TREES BEFORE AND DURING DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS. SO THIS MEANS WORKING WITH THE DEVELOPER TO ENCOURAGE GREENER, SMARTER DEVELOPMENT. OBJECTIVE EIGHT CITY HAS ALREADY STARTED WORKING ON AS WELL IS TO PLANT TREES ALONG TRANSPORTATION CORRIDORS, PEDESTRIAN ROUTES AND BUSINESS DISTRICTS IN ORDER TO BEAUTIFY THE CITY'S ENTRYWAYS, WELCOME VISITORS AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, TO PROMOTE WALKABILITY AND TRANSPORTATION IN THE CITY. AND THEN THE LAST ONE IS JUST GENERAL EXPAND THE EQUITABLE DISTRIBUTION OF TREE CANOPY BENEFITS ACROSS PETERSBURG BY REALLY ADDRESSING THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS WITH LOW TREE CANOPY AND INCREASING IT. SO FOR COMMUNITY SUPPORT, AS PART OF THE PLANNING PROCESS, WE'VE HAD NINE ADVISORY COMMITTEE WORKSHOPS WITH BOTH CITY STAFF MEMBERS AND COMMUNITY PARTNERS. AND WE HAVE A LIST OF COMMUNITY PARTNERS UP AHEAD WHO HAVE BEEN A PART OF THE PROCESS. THE GREENING PETERSBURG INITIATIVES ALL THE WAY ALONG. AND FOR THE ENGAGEMENT PROCESS, WE RECEIVED COMMUNITY FEEDBACK AND INPUT ON THE PLANNING OBJECTIVES, THE TREE PLANNING PRIORITIES, GENERAL TREE CONCERNS, AND THE IMPLEMENTATION FOCUSED AREA. WE'VE ATTENDED NINE OUTREACH EVENTS AND RECEIVED 169 COMMUNITY RESPONSES. AND AS PART OF THE PROGRAM NEXT STEPS, WE'RE HERE SHARING ABOUT THE STRATEGIC TREE CANOPY PLAN. AND WE WOULD LIKE TO CREATE A COMMUNITY ACTION PLAN WITH THE COMMUNITY. 
          AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE ABLE TO PLANT SOME TREES IN AS PART OF THESE PROJECTS. AND WE HAVE A FEW BULLETS OF DATES TO COME BACK TO CITY COUNCIL TO REVIEW ORDINANCE UPDATES TO EVENTS FOR THE PUBLIC. WE HAVE IS THE GREENING PETERSBURG PLANNING WORKSHOPS. THEY WILL BE IN THE PROJECT AREA. THE IMAGE ON THE RIGHT. AND THIS PROGRAM AREA WAS WHERE THE COMMUNITY EXPRESSED INTEREST FOR THESE TYPES OF GREENING PROJECTS, AND WHERE WE FLAGGED IN THE DATA THAT THERE IS A GREAT NEED. SO AT THESE WORKSHOPS, WE'LL BE FIGURING OUT WHERE AND WHAT THESE PROJECTS 
          [02:50:02]
ARE. SO THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS ARE A PART OF DECIDING WHAT THESE TREE PLANTING PROJECTS WILL BE. SO WE'LL ALSO BE HOSTING TREE CARE 101. IT'S A FREE SERIES OF TREE EDUCATION CLASSES STARTING IN JULY, AND WE'LL HAVE THEM ONCE A MONTH HERE AT THIS LIBRARY. SO IF PEOPLE ARE INTERESTED IN GETTING SOME QUESTIONS ANSWERED, PLEASE COME JOIN US IN THAT MEETING. 
          DOES THE CITY COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR US AT THIS TIME? WELL ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. AND WE'D LIKE TO CLOSE WITH A SUGGESTION. SUGGESTED MOTION FOR CITY COUNCIL. AND WE RECOMMEND THAT THE CITY OF PETERSBURG ADOPT THE STRATEGIC TREE CANOPY PLAN. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION. ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS OR. ALL RIGHT, COUNCILMAN JONES. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I JUST WANT TO ASK ABOUT THE EAST WASHINGTON STREET TREE PROJECT. AND WHERE DID WE DECIDE TO START AT? WE'RE GOING TO DO THE WHOLE THING AT ONE TIME. OR, AND BY THE WAY, THAT CORRIDOR IS STARTING TO LOOK GOOD, MR. CITY MANAGER, BY KEEPING IT CUT AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. GREAT. SO WE JUST GOT OUR CONTRACT SIGNED, THE CRATER PLANNING DISTRICT GOT THE FUNDING FOR US $335,000 FOR DOING SOME STUDYING AND IMPLEMENTATION ON EAST WASHINGTON STREET. WE'RE WORKING WITH PUBLIC WORKS TO GET TIMMONS INVOLVED WITH US AS WELL. THEY'RE THE ONES THAT ARE GOING TO HELP US IDENTIFY UTILITIES AND SEE WHERE WE CAN HAVE THE CAPACITY TO PLANT. AND THE BIG FOCUS IS ON A PILOT PROJECT. WE REALLY TALKED ABOUT EMPHASIZING THE GATEWAY, BUT WHAT WE'RE HOPING TO DO IS ONCE WE LOCATE UTILITIES AND SEE WHERE IT'S FEASIBLE TO PLANT, TO ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY ON LOCATIONS AND IDEAS WE'VE GOT, WE'VE ACTUALLY GOTTEN REQUESTS FROM PEOPLE IN THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT. IF YOU'VE BEEN OUT THERE, YOU'VE SEEN THAT EVEN THEIR OUTSIDE COULD USE SOME IMPROVEMENTS, SOME COOLING AND ATTRACTIVE TREES. SO WE'RE HOPING TO WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY TO IDENTIFY THE BEST LOCATIONS OUT THERE FOR THE PLANTING. SO I KNOW IT'S TOO HOT RIGHT NOW TO PUT ANYTHING IN THE GROUND, BUT WILL WE BE PUTTING TREES IN THE GROUND BY THE END OF THE YEAR? SO SINCE IT TOOK SO LONG TO GET THE CONTRACT SIGNED, WE HAVE A YEAR FROM WHEN IT WAS JUST SIGNED IN THE BEGINNING OF JUNE, SO THE PLANTING SEASON WOULD BE DECEMBER, JANUARY, FEBRUARY, MARCH. WE WOULD GET PLANTED IN THAT TIME FRAME. THAT'S WHEN THE MONEY IS GOING TO EXPIRE AS WELL. SO WE GOT TO GET DESIGNED AND PLANTED WITHIN THAT ONE YEAR TIME FRAME. SO WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH ALL OF THAT, LIKE FAST AS WE CAN. WE'RE MOVING FORWARD. YES, WE'RE WORKING WITH PUBLIC WORKS ON THAT. AND SPEAKING OF TREES, MR. CITY MANAGER, I KNOW IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD WE GOT A LOT OF RV DRIVERS AND I SEE THEM THROUGHOUT THE CITY TOO. BUT THE TREES ARE HANGING OVER INTO THE STREET, WHICH CAUSED DAMAGE TO THE TOP OF THE RVS. WE HAVE PUBLIC WORKS OR SOMEBODY COME DOWN AND NOT BUTCHER THE TREES, BUT AT LEAST GET THEM OUT OF THE WAY FOR DAMAGING PEOPLE VEHICLES. AND IT'S ON THE REGULAR STREETS, TOO, LIKE WASHINGTON STREET AND WOLF STREET IS HANGING OVER IN SOME NEIGHBORHOODS, TREES JUST HANGING OVER. YEAH. AND WE CAN WE CAN LOOK AT THOSE AREAS. IF YOU HAVE SOME SPECIFIC AREAS, LET US KNOW. WE'LL WORK WITH OUR NEW ARBORIST HERE TO WORK ON GETTING SOME OF THAT DONE. SO WE DON'T BUTCHER THE TREES, BUT WE KNOW THAT AT SOME POINT THERE MAY NEED TO BE SOME TRIMMING THAT OCCURS TO. SO WE DON'T DAMAGE VEHICLES. BUT IF WE CAN AND IF YOU OR ANYBODY IN THE COMMUNITY HAS THOSE INSTANCES WHERE THAT'S OCCURRING, LET US KNOW. WE'LL BE ABLE TO GO OUT AND TAKE A LOOK AT IT. SO BASED IN YOUR PICTURE OF THE AREA WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH THE ADDRESS, IF YOU CAN SEND A PICTURE KIND OF A LOCATION, WE'LL BE ON IT. AND I WILL NOTE WE'RE SUPER EXCITED. WE'RE PARTNERING WITH THE NEW GIS ANALYST TO USE HIS TECHNOLOGY. 
          JANINE IS GOING TO BE GOING OUT IN THE FIELD AND HELP US INVENTORY THE PUBLIC TREES THAT WE HAVE IN THE RIGHT OF WAY, WHAT THEIR CURRENT STATUS IS, HEALTH, MAINTENANCE NEEDS AND SO FORTH. SO WE CAN ACTUALLY HAVE THE DATA AND HAVE REGULAR MAINTENANCE OF OUR TREES. SO SUPER EXCITING TO GET THAT STARTED. SO I NOTICED YOU SAID SOMETHING ABOUT PROJECTS AND DEALING WITH THE TREES IS ALREADY THERE. SO BEFORE, DURING AND AFTER THE PROJECT. WELL, IN BERKELEY MANOR SOMEBODY BUTCHERED EVERY TREE AROUND OUR PARK, WHICH MAKES OUR PARK A HOT ZONE. NOW. FIRST WE HAD SHADE ALL AROUND AND NOW ALL OF THE TREES ARE CUT. AND I KNOW IT'S FROM DEVELOPMENT, BUT THEY CUT EVERY DOGGONE TREE OUT THERE. AND THEY DIDN'T. AND WE DIDN'T GET A WARNING. NOBODY TOLD THE COMMUNITY ANYTHING. AND WHEN MY CONSTITUENTS ASKED ME AND I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER, THAT'S PROBABLY EVERY PERSON THAT ASKED ME. THAT'S A VOTE I PROBABLY LOST, YOU KNOW? BUT THE THING IS, WE DON'T WE DIDN'T KNOW. YEAH. SO THIS IS THE CLEARING THAT OCCURRED AT BERKELEY ESTATES MANOR WITH THE NEXT PHASE. THEY WENT OUT AND JUST CLEAR CUT EVERYTHING OUT THERE AND DIDN'T DO ANY CLEARING. BUT YEAH, WE WENT OUT AND BECAUSE THEY STARTED CUTTING AND LOOKED LIKE THEY WERE CUTTING INTO THE PARK. BUT YEAH, THAT WAS PRIVATE 
          [02:55:05]
PROPERTY. UNFORTUNATELY THEY DID NOT. THEY SOME, SOME DEVELOPERS WILL GO IN AND CLEAR THE RIGHT OF WAY AND THEN SELECT CLEAR ON SOME LOTS, BUT THEY JUST WENT OUT AND CLEAR CUT EVERYTHING. 
          AND WHICH IS WHICH IS A SHAME BECAUSE IT DID TAKE AWAY FROM THE TREE CANOPY IN THE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD THAT AFFECTED THOSE HOUSES THAT ARE CURRENTLY DEVELOPED, BUT ALSO THE ABILITY TO HAVE SHADE ON THAT PARK. YOU WILL BE HAPPY TO HEAR WE ARE GOING TO COME TO YOU WITH REGULATIONS, ZONING ORDINANCE CHANGES, AS WELL AS CITY CODE CHANGES TO HELP WITH TREES ON CITY PROPERTY AS WELL AS WE DO HAVE SOME TEETH WITH TREES ON PRIVATE PROPERTY BECAUSE WE ARE IN THE CHESAPEAKE BAY PRESERVATION AREA, SO WE CAN ESTABLISH SOME PRESERVATION STANDARDS FOR TREES ON PRIVATE PROPERTY. SO WE'RE PRETTY EXCITED ABOUT THAT. YEAH. THAT'S GREAT. THANK YOU SO MUCH, ALL OF YOU I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. 
          COUNCILMAN JONES, DO YOU WANT TO DO THE MOTION THAT THEY THAT WAS JUST ASKED, COULD YOU PUT THE MOTION BACK UP THERE? OH, THAT'S NOT US. IT JUST SIMPLY IS MOTION TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION AS SUBMITTED. ALL RIGHT. SO I WANT TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION AS SUBMITTED I THINK I SAID THAT RIGHT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. COUNCILMAN. WOMAN. SMITH LEE, I SECOND OKAY. CAN YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL COUNCIL MEMBER. CUTHBERT. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER. JONES. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER. MYERS. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER. LEE. AYE. MAYOR. AYE. MOTION CARRIES. NEXT WE GO TO 
          [14. New Business (Part 2 of 2)]
ITEM 14 B ADOPTION OF A RESOLUTION TO REAPPOINT MR. KENNETH PRITCHETT TO THE BRIGHTPOINT COMMUNITY COLLEGE BOARD TO SERVE A SECOND FOUR YEAR TERM FROM JULY 1ST 25 UNTIL JUNE 30TH, 2029. KEN IS BACK HERE. YOU WANT TO DO THIS ANOTHER FOUR YEARS? YEAH. HE SAID YES, HE DOES. ALL RIGHT. COUNCILMAN MYERS SO MOVED COUNCILMEMBER SMITH LEE SECOND. 
          ALL RIGHT, MISS HILL, COULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL COUNCIL MEMBER CUTHBERT. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER. JONES. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER. MYERS. COUNCIL MEMBER. LEE. AYE. MAYOR. OAKES. AYE. 
          MOTION CARRIES. NEXT IS ITEM D, WHICH IS AN ADOPTION OF A RESOLUTION IN SUPPORT OF EXPANDING THE FEDERAL CHILD TAX CREDIT PROPOSED BY THE US CONFERENCE OF MAYORS. AND THIS IS A RESOLUTION TO EXPAND THE CHILD TAX CREDIT, WHICH IS PROPOSED BY THE US CONFERENCE OF MAYORS. AND WHAT IT DOES, IT HELPS REDUCE CHILDHOOD POVERTY. AND WE'RE ASKING, UNDER THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN OF 2021 LED TO THE LARGEST RECORDED DECLINE IN CHILD POVERTY IN US HISTORY, REDUCING IT BY NEARLY HALF FROM 9.7% TO 2 IN 20 20 TO 5.2% BY 20. THOUSAND, SOMETHING TWO 2021. I GUESS IT WAS ALL RIGHT. SO. I ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION. 
          COUNCILWOMAN SMITH LEE SO MOVED. ALL RIGHT. COUNCILMAN JONES SECOND. ALL RIGHT, MISS, HERE, CAN YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL COUNCIL MEMBER CUTHBERT? AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER. JONES. AYE. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER. MYERS. COUNCIL MEMBER. LEE. AYE. MAYOR. AYE. MOTION CARRIES. ALL RIGHT. NEXT. 
          [15. City Manager's Report and Special Reports]
CITY MANAGER'S REPORT. YES, SIR. MR. MAYOR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A MOMENT TO RECOGNIZE OUR PLANNING DIRECTOR. MISS, TONIGHT IS HER LAST MEETING WITH US. SHE IS MOVING ON TO A NEW ADVENTURE WITH VDOT, SO THAT WILL BE EXCITING FOR HER. BUT I DO WANT TO SAY ONE TO THANK HER FOR ALL OF HER HARD WORK WITH US AND TO FOR HER TO COME UP AND EXPLAIN THE JAMESTOWN AWARD THAT THE CITY WILL BE RECEIVING AT THE VA CONFERENCE, WHICH IS THE VIRGINIA CHAPTER OF THE AMERICAN PLANNING ASSOCIATION CONFERENCE THIS SUMMER. MR. MAYOR, YOU'LL BE GETTING AN INVITE, AND I BELIEVE JARED WILL BE ATTENDING ALSO. SO PLEASE. OH THANK YOU. 
          I'M SUPER EXCITED TO SHARE. SO WE GOT APPOINTED OR NOMINATED BY THE BERKELEY GROUP, ONE OF OUR CONSULTANTS, TO RECEIVE WHAT'S CALLED THE JAMESTOWN AWARD. AND THAT'S IDENTIFYING THE LOCALITY OF THE YEAR FOR THEIR PLANNING EFFORTS. SO WE ARE BEING IDENTIFIED AS THE CITY OF THE YEAR BY THE VIRGINIA ASSOCIATION OF PLANNING. YES. YEAH. GREAT JOB MAN. SO I'M REALLY EXCITED. 
          I'M EXCITED FOR MY TEAM. THEY'VE BEEN SUPER GREAT. JARED IS HERE TONIGHT. YOU'LL BE SEEING MORE OF HIM. HE'S SUPER EAGER. HE'S READY TO HELP OUT. AND I'M JUST EXCITED FOR THIS DEPARTMENT. 
          WHAT WE DO WITH TREES, WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH TRANSPORTATION. WE HAVE SO MANY GRANTS THAT WE'VE RECEIVED THAT HAVE YET TO BE REALIZED, BUT I'M SO EXCITED TO SEE THEM COME TO REALITY. SO THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. I JUST SAY THE AWARD IS A TESTAMENT TO THE WORK THAT SHE AND THE DEPARTMENT HAVE DONE OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS. SO CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU, YOUR TEAM, AND GOOD LUCK AND WE'LL MISS YOU. YES, WE WILL FOR SURE. ALRIGHT. NEXT WE HAVE THE ANY 
          [03:00:03]
REPORTS FROM THE CLERK? NOTHING TO REPORT, SIR. ALL RIGHT. BUSINESS REPORTS FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY, MR. WILLIAMS. ITEMS? NO REPORT, MR. MAYOR. ALL RIGHT. NEXT IS ITEM 18. ADJOURNMENT. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.