Feb 17, 2026 Regular City Council Meeting

[00:00:01]

PARA. AYE, SIR. THAT MOTION CARRIES. ALL RIGHT, THAT CONCLUDES OUR CLOSED MEETING.

AND WE'RE ROLLING RIGHT ON TO OUR CITY COUNCIL MEETING FOR FEBRUARY 17TH, 2026. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. AT THIS TIME, IT'S HILL. COULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? COUNCIL MEMBER CUTHBERT HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER. JONES HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER. MYERS. COUNCIL MEMBER.

WESTBROOK. PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER. SMITH. LEE PRESENT. VICE MAYOR. HILL HERE. MAYOR PERRY HERE. SIR, YOU HAVE A QUORUM. NEXT, VICE MAYOR HILL WILL LEAD US IN OUR OPENING PRAYER. YES, AS WE ARE. GOING TO PRAYER, LET US BE IN PRAYER FOR OUR THE JACKSON FAMILY. WE WE LOST A HERO OF MANY OF OURS, REVEREND DOCTOR JESSE JACKSON, ON TODAY. SO LET US BE IN PRAYER FOR ALL FAMILIES WHO HAVE LOST LOVED ONES. LET US PRAY. OUR GOD AND OUR FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR THIS DAY. WE THANK YOU FOR THE BLESSINGS OF TODAY. LORD, WE LIFT YOUR NAME ON HIGH EVEN IN THESE COUNCIL CHAMBERS. HEAVENLY FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR BRINGING US HERE SAFE. AND LORD, WE ASK THAT YOU WILL BLESS THE BUSINESS, THAT WE WILL PUT OUR HANDS TO.

HEAVENLY FATHER, WE ASK A SPECIAL BLESSING UPON OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, OUR EMS, OUR FIREFIGHTERS, AND OUR POLICE OFFICERS. LORD, WE ASK A SPECIAL BLESSING UPON ALL THOSE WHO WORK IN THE CITY, HEAVENLY FATHER, AND WE EVEN ASK EVEN A SPECIAL BLESSING UPON OUR RESIDENTS. HEAVENLY FATHER, CONTINUE TO BLESS THEM AND HOLD THEM UP ON EVERY LEANING SIDE.

BE WITH OUR CHILDREN, HEAVENLY FATHER, AS THEY GO TO AND FRO. HEAVENLY FATHER, CONTINUE TO STRENGTHEN THEM. LORD, BE WITH THIS COUNCIL AS WE DELIBERATE WITH WISDOM ON HOW HEAVENLY FATHER, THAT WE WOULD DO YOUR WORK, YOUR WILL, AND YOUR WAY. WE THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU'VE DONE FOR OUR CITY. WE'RE LOOKING FOR A GREATER THANKS, HEAVENLY FATHER, AND WE JUST ASK FOR YOUR BLESSINGS. IT'S IN YOUR NAME. WE PRAY AND WE THANK YOU. AMEN, AMEN. NEXT IS ITEM THREE, THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. CAN EVERYONE PLEASE STAND AND JOIN US IN THE PLEDGE? I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. NEXT IS ITEM

[4. Determination of the Presence of a Quorum]

[5. Proclamations/Recognitions/Presentation of Ceremonial Proclamations ]

METROPOLITAN BAPTIST CHURCH REPRESENTATIVE FROM METRO. HELLO. THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT.

AND THE MARK MATTHEWS CHAPTER OF THE BUFFALO SOLDIERS RIGHT HERE AS WELL. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

AND WE JUST WANT TO RECOGNIZE THEM FOR FOR GETTING THAT RED CROSS AWARD. YES. AND AND CHRISTY, YOU WANT TO COME UP AND SAY A FEW WORDS. YES. GOOD EVENING ALL. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING TO THOSE OF YOU. AND I ALSO WANT TO FIRST, I WANT TO THANK ALL OF Y'ALL FOR BEING WILLING TO SHARE THIS INFORMATION. THAT'S TO ME TO BE LOUDER. YES, SIR. BUT ALSO THANK YOU TO ALL OF THOSE THAT ARE REPRESENTED. OUR MISSION IS TO ALLEVIATE HUMAN SUFFERING.

AND OUR FIVE C'S ARE CREDIBLE, COMPASSIONATE, COLLABORATIVE, COMMITTED. AND OF COURSE, I FORGET ONE WHEN I START LISTING THEM. CREDIBLE, COLLABORATIVE, COMPASSIONATE. CREATIVE. THAT WAS THE ONE I CAN'T REMEMBER. AND WE LOOK FOR GROUPS AND ORGANIZATIONS ACROSS ALL OF OUR FIVE LINES OF SERVICES, OF SUPPORT TO THE MILITARY, BLOOD TRAINING SERVICES, DISASTER SERVICES AND INTERNATIONAL SERVICES, AS WELL AS ALL OF OUR BUSINESS LINES WHERE WE HAVE PARTNERS THAT REPRESENT THAT IN OUR 22 CITIES AND COUNTIES. AND EVERY ONE OF THESE REPRESENTATIVES ARE SHOWING AND DEMONSTRATING THAT TO THE COMMUNITY ON A DAILY BASIS. AND

[00:05:05]

YEAH. ALL RIGHT.

45 YEARS. YOU'VE EARNED IT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ALL PRAISES. GOOD EVENING. MAYOR,

[00:10:17]

THANK YOU ALL. I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THIS RECOGNITION. I GIVE GOD ALL THE GLORY FOR EVERYTHING THAT HE'S DONE IN MY LIFE. IT'S BEEN A LONG TERM HERE WITH THE CITY I STARTED WHEN I CAME OUT OF HIGH SCHOOL. I WENT TO BUSINESS COLLEGE FOR A YEAR. THE POSITION THAT I INTERVIEWED FOR AS A SUMMER YOUTH EMPLOYMENT PROGRAM INDIVIDUAL. SO YOUNG PEOPLE, YOUNG PEOPLE CONTINUE TO DO THIS WORK AND IT WILL PAY ITSELF OFF IN THE LONG RUN. SO I WAS HIRED IN THAT POSITION AS AN ACCOUNT CLERK TOO, AND JUST MOVED MYSELF UP THROUGH THE RANKS. I AM GRATEFUL AND THANKFUL FOR THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT WERE GRANTED HERE IN THE CITY OF PETERSBURG, AND I HOPE THAT WHAT I HAVE DONE WILL CONTINUE TO BE A MODEL FOR THIS ORGANIZATION. THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH. I APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT AND I DO THOROUGHLY APPRECIATE THE RECOGNITION. IT IS SOMETHING THAT'S NOT DONE, AND I HOPE THIS PROCESS DOES CONTINUE WITHIN OUR CITY AGENCIES, BECAUSE WE STILL DO HAVE QUITE A FEW PEOPLE WHO HAVE. I THINK THERE ARE ABOUT THREE PEOPLE THAT HAVE A COUPLE OF NUMBERS JUST ABOVE ME THAT ARE STILL HERE. SO THE FOUNDATION HAS BEEN SET, THE MODEL HAS BEEN SET. SO WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO CONTINUED PROGRESS WITH THE CITY OF PETERSBURG. AND I LIVE IN PETERSBURG, SO I'LL BE AROUND SEEING THINGS. THAT'S IT. THANK YOU ALL. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT, COUNCILMAN JONES. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU FOR THIS SPECIAL MOMENT. AND THANK SO MANY OF YOU GUYS FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT. I WISH EVERY COUNCIL MEETING WAS PACKED. HOUSE LIKE THIS. I HAVE A SPECIAL PRESENTATION. THERE WAS ONCE A BOY. WHO BECAME A FATHER AT 13, AND THAT BOY WAS DOING MAD THINGS. AND THAT BOY WAS CARRIED BY THE CHURCH. AND I THINK THE CHURCH CARRIED HIM LONG ENOUGH TO WHERE HE JUST COULDN'T CARRY HIM ANYMORE. AND I WAS DELIVERED TO ANOTHER PLACE, ANOTHER VOICE, SOMETHING THAT TURNED THIS BOY INTO A MAN.

I WOULD NOT BE HERE TODAY IF IT WEREN'T FOR THIS SPECIAL PERSON THAT I'M ABOUT TO MENTION FOR MY SELECTION, NOT JUST FOR BLACK HISTORY, BUT BLACK PRESENT AND BLACK FUTURE, AND MY BLACK LIFE, AND YOUR WHITE LIFE AND YOUR BLACK LIFE. LET ME EXPLAIN. WHITE PEOPLE, SOME OF YOU MAY THINK, CHUCK.

KILLED THE MIC. AND JUST YELL IT OUT. OR YOU WANT ME TO SIT RIGHT HERE. YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. YOU CALL FOR ME IF YOU WANT. CHECK, CHECK. THERE WE GO. AS I WAS SAYING, WE ALL WANT PEOPLE. THIS MAN I'M ABOUT TO RECOGNIZE. PUT A FIRE INSIDE OF ME THAT BURNS RIGHT TO THIS DAY. AND YOU HEAR ME TALK ABOUT DO FOR SELF. LIVE FOR SELF, HELP EACH OTHER. THE BOTTOM RAIL BECOMING THE TOP RAIL. WE I WANT YOU GUYS TO UNDERSTAND WHITE AND BLACK. IT'S NOT YOUR SKIN COLOR. THIS IS WHAT THE BROTHER TAUGHT ME. IT IS NOT YOUR SKIN COLOR THAT IS HATED. IT'S THE EVILNESS BEHIND SOME OF YOUR SKIN COLOR. WHITE FOLKS AND BLACK FOLKS. YOU DON'T GET A FREE PASS NEITHER, BECAUSE HE'S FIGHTING FOR YOU. BECAUSE SOME OF Y'ALL HAVE THE SAME EVILNESS THAT WE ATTACK EVERYBODY ELSE WITH. SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS THIS. LOVE IS THE KEY. THIS BROTHER I'M ABOUT TO MENTION IS THIS THE HONORABLE RECOGNITION OF THE HONORABLE MINISTER LOUIS FARRAKHAN? HE'S MY SPIRITUAL FATHER. HE'S MY TEACHER. AND HE

[00:15:04]

WE'RE BREEDS JUST THE OPPOSITE. AND IN THIS CITY, Y'ALL, I'M TRYING TO BRING EVERYBODY TOGETHER, BLACK AND WHITE, BECAUSE WE GOT PEOPLE COMING HERE NOT TO BE YOUR NEIGHBORS.

THEY COMING HERE TO TAKE OVER THINGS THAT WE TAKE FOR GRANTED. AND IF WE DON'T LOOK AT EACH OTHER AS BROTHERS AND SISTERS IN THE CITY OF PETERSBURG, WE'RE GOING TO BE OUT OF HERE.

AND NONE OF Y'ALL AND NONE OF US ARE GOING TO BE UP HERE. SO LET ME CONTINUE WITH MY PROCLAMATION AND THANK YOU AGAIN, MR. MAYOR, I APPRECIATE THIS. WHEREAS THE CITY OF PETERSBURG HONOR HIS LEGACY OF RESILIENCE, FAITH AND THE CONTINUOUS PURSUIT OF ENLIGHTENMENT, SELF-DETERMINATION AND COMMUNITY EMPOWERMENT. AND WHEREAS, THE PROFOUND IMPACT OF TRANSFORMATIVE LEADERSHIP IS ESSENTIAL IN GUIDING INDIVIDUALS TOWARD A GREATER UNDERSTANDING OF THEIR PURPOSE, POTENTIAL, AND RESPONSIBILITY TO SOCIETY. AND WHEREAS THE HONORABLE MINISTER LOUIS FARRAKHAN HAS FOR OVER SEVEN DECADES SERVED AS A GLOBAL MINISTER, TEACHER, AND ADVOCATE FOR THE SPIRITUAL AWAKENING, MORAL CLARITY, ECONOMIC JUSTICE, AND THE UPLIFTMENT OF BLACK AND OPPRESSED PEOPLE WORLDWIDE.

WHEREAS HIS UNWAVERING MESSAGE OF ATONEMENT, RECONCILIATION, AND PERSONAL EXCELLENCE HAS SERVED AS A CATALYST FOR THE RENEWAL OF NOT JUST MY MIND, BUT EVERYBODY'S MIND AND SPIRIT FOR MILLIONS, INSPIRING A JOURNEY FROM SURVIVAL TO PURPOSE DRIVEN SERVICE. AND WHEREAS THIS POWERFUL MESSAGE HAS RESONATED DEEPLY WITHIN OUR OWN COMMUNITY, STRENGTHENING THE RESOLVE, FAITH AND CIVIC ENGAGEMENT OF MANY VALUED PETERSBURG RESIDENTS, THEREBY CONTRIBUTING TO THE SOCIAL AND SPIRITUAL FABRIC OF OUR CITY. NOW, THEREFORE, I, COUNCILMAN MARLO JONES, BY THE AUTHORITY VESTED IN ME BY THE CITIZENS OF PETERSBURG AND ON BEHALF OF THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN POSITIVELY TRANSFORMED BY HIS WORKS, DO HEREBY OFFICIALLY RECOGNIZE AND HONOR ALL PRAISES DUE TO ALLAH, THE HONORABLE MINISTER LOUIS FARRAKHAN, BE IT PROCLAIMED THAT WE ACKNOWLEDGE WITH DEEP RESPECT IN HIS MONUMENTAL ROLE AS A SPIRITUAL GUIDE AND HIS LIFELONG DEDICATION TO THE EDUCATION AND EMPOWERMENT AND LIBERATION OF THE HUMAN SPIRIT, BE. IT FURTHER PROCLAIMED THAT THE CITY OF PETERSBURG FORMALLY RECOGNIZES FEBRUARY 17TH, 2026 AS A DAY TO REFLECT UPON THE POWER OF TRANSFORMATIVE TRUTH AND TO HONOR MINISTER LOUIS FARRAKHAN'S ENDURING LEGACY OF THE RENEWING OF THE MIND AND UPLIFTING COMMUNITIES. IN TESTIMONY WHEREOF, I HEREBY HEREUNTO SET MY HAND AND CAUSED THE SEAL OF MY OFFICE TO BE AFFIXED THIS DAY. 17TH DAY OF FEBRUARY, 2026 HONOR OF MINISTER LOUIS FARRAKHAN.

EVERYBODY GIVE HIM A ROUND OF APPLAUSE.

THIS. TIME.

GREAT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. YES, IT. AND EVERYBODY, I GOTTA TELL Y'ALL THIS. THIS IS MINISTER JAY RIGHT HERE. YES, SIR. AND WHEN I WAS COMING UP, I AIN'T KNOW NO BETTER UNTIL I HEARD HIM DOWN ON SYCAMORE STREET. AND I SAID, WHO IS THAT SPEAKING LIKE WHEN YOU SEE ME SPEAKING LIKE THAT UP HERE, IT'S COMING FROM THESE MEN RIGHT HERE WHO TAUGHT ME HOW TO BE A MAN, HOW TO RESPECT MY NEIGHBORS. IT DON'T MATTER WHETHER YOU'RE WHITE OR BLACK. RIGHT AND WRONG IS WHAT WE FOCUS ON. YES, SIR. AND WE'RE GOING TO GROW THIS CITY WHETHER YOU'RE WHITE OR BLACK. WE GOT TO VOTE. WE HAVE NO OTHER CHOICE BUT TO GROW. THAT'S RIGHT. WE GOT YOU. AND ALL OF US. EVERYBODY IN PETERSBURG, BLACK AND WHITE. YES, AMEN, BROTHER. THE ONE ONE LOVE. ONE JESUS. MY DEAR BROTHER. NEXT IS

[7. Approval of Consent Agenda (to include minutes of previous meetings)]

[00:20:14]

FEBRUARY 3RD, 2026. CLOSED SESSION MEETING FEBRUARY 3RD, 2026. CITY COUNCIL JOINT MEETING FEBRUARY 3RD, 2026 CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION. VICE MAYOR HILL MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS STATED. COUNCILWOMAN SMITH, SECOND IS HERE. WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL COUNCIL MEMBER CUTHBERT. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER. JONES. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER. MYERS. COUNCIL MEMBER. WESTBROOK. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER. SMITH. AYE. VICE MAYOR. HILL. AYE. MAYOR. AYE AYE.

[8. Unfinished Business]

WE TABLED IT SO THAT SCHOOLS REPRESENTATION CAN BE HERE. I BELIEVE WE HAVE REPRESENTATIVES.

WELL, I KNOW WE HAVE REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE SCHOOL HERE TONIGHT, AND I BELIEVE THEY'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE. OKAY. PERFECT. I KNOW I HAVE SCHOOL BOARD CHAIR PRITCHETT JUST WALKED IN, MR. PRITCHETT, GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU FOR JOINING US. OUR SUPERINTENDENT. I SEE YOU, MISS BROWN. GOOD EVENING. ALSO, MR. MARTINEZ BACK THERE. AND WE HAVE OUR DIRECTOR OF FINANCE HERE ON THE SCHOOL SIDE. YES, SIR. GOOD EVENING. SCHOOL BOARD.

GOOD EVENING. MAYOR. GOOD EVENING, VICE MAYOR HILL AS TEAM CITY COUNCIL. MY NAME IS MATHIAS GREYWOODE G R E Y W O O D. I'M THE CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER OF THE PETERSBURG CITY PUBLIC SCHOOLS. THIS ITEM WAS BROUGHT FORWARD A WHILE AGO, AND FOR SOME REASON WE MISSED THE DATE. AND IT'S ALL MY FAULT. I HAD TRAVELED AND WAS NOT AVAILABLE. SO WE'RE HERE TO EXPLAIN AND PROVIDE ANY ANSWERS TO ANY QUESTIONS THE COUNCIL MAY HAVE. ALL RIGHT, COUNCILMAN JONES. THIS IS ABOUT THE ALMOST $3 MILLION THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, RIGHT? YES, SIR. THIS IS AN ENCUMBRANCE CARRYOVER. IT IS A ROUTINE REQUEST THAT WE ASK FOR EVERY YEAR. AND WE'VE REQUESTED SOMETHING LIKE THIS IN THE PAST. WHAT IT IS, IS ITEMS THAT WE, YOU KNOW, ENCUMBERED IN THE PREVIOUS YEAR THAT IS ROLLING OVER INTO THIS CURRENT YEAR. BUT BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO PAY THEM LAST YEAR, WE ALWAYS HAVE TO COME BACK TO THE CITY COUNCIL TO REQUEST FOR AUTHORITY TO CARRY THEM OVER INTO THE NEW YEAR. SO HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHY WE WEREN'T ABLE TO PAY THEM LAST YEAR WHEN YOU HAD THE MONEY LAST YEAR, BECAUSE I DO KNOW YOU GOT TO TURN IT BACK IN WHATEVER YOU DON'T USE. OKAY. AND BEFORE YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND, I THINK I SAID IT BEFORE TO EVERYBODY HERE. SCHOOL. YOU GOT THAT MONEY? SPENT IT. MR. MARTINEZ. I TOLD YOU THAT YOU GOT IT SPENT. IT DIDN'T COME TO US WHEN YOU BROKE. BUT DON'T GIVE IT BACK TO US AND SAY WE WANT IT BACK. AND DON'T YOU THINK ALMOST $3 MILLION IS A LOT OF MONEY TO SAY IT'S MY FAULT? YES. I THINK I NEED TO EXPLAIN WHAT'S GOING ON HERE. GO AHEAD. THIS IS NOT MONEY. AT THE END OF THE YEAR THAT WE HAVEN'T SPENT, IT'S A DIFFERENT THING. THESE ARE ITEMS THAT IN THE PREVIOUS YEAR, WE ENCUMBERED. WE'RE COMMITTED TO PAYING. AND BECAUSE SERVICES WERE NOT PROVIDED, THERE'S A TIME IN BETWEEN WHEN CONTRACTS ARE SIGNED, SERVICES ARE PROVIDED AND WHEN THEY ARE PAID. SO BETWEEN LAST YEAR AND THIS CURRENT YEAR, WE HAD POS THAT WE HAD ISSUED CONTRACT SIGNED. SOME SERVICES MAY HAVE BEEN PROVIDED, BUT IT'S FLOWING INTO THE CURRENT YEAR. SO BECAUSE THOSE POS WERE ALREADY ISSUED, WE NOW HAVE TO CARRY THEM OVER INTO THE NEW YEAR SO THAT WE COULD PAY THEM IN THE NEW YEAR.

THAT'S WHAT'S GOING ON. SO ARE YOU SAYING SOME OF THE SERVICE WASN'T COMPLETED AND YOU DON'T WANT TO PAY NOBODY UNTIL HE FINISHED THE SERVICE? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? IT'S A TIMING ISSUE BETWEEN WHEN SERVICES ARE PROVIDED, WHEN CONTRACTS ARE SIGNED AND WHEN WE'RE ACTUALLY PAYING THEM. IT'S FLOWING INTO THE NEW YEAR. AND SO WE NEED AUTHORIZATION FROM THE CITY COUNCIL IN ORDER TO ROLL THEM INTO THE NEW YEAR AND PAY THEM. SO HOW CAN WE FIX THIS IN THE FUTURE? Y'ALL CAN, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WHAT, BECAUSE I WANT Y'ALL COMING BACK NEXT YEAR. SAY WE GOT $2 MILLION Y'ALL TOOK FROM US AND WE NEED IT BACK. THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF Y'ALL NEED DONE. SO I MEAN, I WANT YOU TO SPEND THE MONEY BECAUSE IT'S YOURS. YES, SIR.

[00:25:03]

THE ONLY WAY WE COULD DO THAT IS TO CUT OFF, YOU KNOW, SERVICES OR ISSUING ANY POS BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR, MAKING SURE THAT WE PAY EVERYTHING. AND THEN. BUT SINCE IS IT THAT YOU'RE AFRAID TO SPEND THE MONEY THAT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET NO MORE BECAUSE WE GOT YOU BACK? SUPERINTENDENT, I'M TELLING YOU, WE GOT YOU BACK. I TOLD YOU THAT. SPEND IT.

WELL, WHAT WE'RE SAYING HERE IS THE EBBS AND FLOWS OF RUNNING A SCHOOL DIVISION RUN THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, AND WE CAN'T STOP THE SERVICES OR ISSUING POS BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR. WHAT AM I HAVE MISS BROWN HERE? THE SUPERINTENDENT. SUPERINTENDENT, COULD YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING THAT Y'ALL GOING THROUGH? SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, AND GOOD EVENING, VICE MAYOR HILL AND THE ENTIRE COUNCIL. SO I THINK WHAT DOCTOR GREENWOOD IS TRYING TO SAY, WE COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND YOUR CONTENTION THAT WE SHOULD SPEND ALL THE MONEY. TYPICALLY. THAT'S NOT GOOD. THAT'S NOT GOOD FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT FOR A SCHOOL DIVISION. NO SCHOOL DIVISION ANYWHERE CAN SPEND THEIR MILLIONS OF DOLLARS DOWN TO ZERO. BECAUSE IF SOMETHING HAPPENS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, YOU DON'T HAVE ANY WAY TO GET ANY FUNDS TO TAKE TAKE CARE OF THOSE THINGS THAT COME UP. LET ME PAUSE YOU RIGHT THERE. IN ALL DUE RESPECT, BECAUSE. I'M NOT ACTUALLY SPENDING ALL TO ZERO. BUT YOU DO HAVE AN AVENUE TO WHERE IF YOU DON'T HAVE SOMETHING THAT POPS UP AFTER YOU DON'T SPEND THE MONEY THAT WE ALLOWED YOU, THAT WE GAVE YOU, YOU CAN COME RIGHT TO US.

WE NEED THIS EMERGENCY FUND. AND I DON'T THINK NOBODY UP HERE WOULD DISAGREE ON GIVING YOU WHATEVER EMERGENCY FUND YOU NEED. THAT'S GREAT TO HEAR. YOU KNOW. SO SO WE HAVE A WAY OUT, BUT YOU GUYS CAN'T HOLD ON TO 2 MILLION, $3 MILLION AND SAY, JUST HOLD IT JUST IN CASE. THEN YOU'RE GOING TO BE ASKED FOR IT BACK BECAUSE THE PUBLIC DON'T THINK Y'ALL WASTING IT. WE KNOW YOU'RE NOT WASTING IT. YOU NEED MORE THAN THAT TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. ABSOLUTELY. SO THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN JONES. WE ABSOLUTELY ARE NOT GOING TO WASTE A PENNY OF THE SCHOOL DIVISION'S MONEY. AND SO AT THIS POINT. SO WHAT HAPPENS IS, AS DOCTOR GRAY WOULD TRY TO EXPLAIN, IS THAT AS WE ENTER INTO CONTRACTS, WE ASK FOR SERVICES FROM DIFFERENT COMPANIES, WHETHER IT BE TEXTBOOKS, WHETHER IT BE MATERIALS FOR KIDS. WE GET THAT, WE GET THOSE SERVICES. BUT WHAT HAPPENS IS THERE'S ALSO A LAPSE SOMETIMES IN HOW WE GET THE BILL BACK. AND SO THROUGHOUT THE YEAR YOU MAY DO THE FIRST SESSION, YOU MAY DO THE SECOND SESSION, BUT YOU MAY NOT GET TO THE THIRD AND FOURTH SESSION UNTIL LATER INTO THE SUMMER.

THEY'RE DOING A 30 DAY CYCLE. AND SO WHAT HAPPENS IS WE DON'T GET A BILL FROM A VENDOR. IT COULD BE 90 DAYS. IT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, WE KNOW WE WOULD LOVE FOR PEOPLE TO SEND US BILLS ON A REGULAR BASIS, BUT SOMETIMES THEY SEND BILLS THAT ARE LATER. AND SO AFTER THE FACT WE GET THE BILLS. AND IF THE BUDGET HAS CLOSED, WE HAVE TO GET AUTHORIZATION FOR YOU FROM YOU ALL TO GO BACK AND SAY, HEY, WE'RE GOING TO PAY THE BILLS, WHICH ARE THE ENCUMBRANCES THAT WE BROUGHT FORWARD TO YOU, WHICH IS ABOUT THE $3 MILLION. IS THAT CORRECT, DOCTOR? YES.

AND THESE ARE 72 ITEMS THAT ARE MOSTLY CAPITAL RELATED THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE IN THE IN THE SCHOOLS. IF YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THEM, THEY ARE MOSTLY MAINTENANCE, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS AND FACILITIES, THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE 72 ITEMS ON AVERAGE, 38,000 EACH THAT WE NEED TO ROLL OVER. AND THIS IS A ROUTINE REQUEST THAT WE, YOU KNOW, REQUEST EVERY YEAR. AND I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THAT I DO. BUT MY QUESTION IS THIS ARE WE GOING TO STILL DEAL WITH THE SAME VENDORS AS CAUSING YOU THIS, COMING LATE TO YOU WITH THEIR INVOICE AND ALL OF THAT STUFF? I MEAN, ARE WE DEALING WITH THEM YEAR AFTER YEAR? BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE WE MAY BE DEALING WITH THE SAME ONES? I THINK WHAT'S GOING ON IS THAT BECAUSE OUR FISCAL YEAR ENDS JUNE 30TH, THE ITEMS THAT WE WORKED ON BEFORE JUNE 30TH THAT WE NEED TO PAY, WE CAN JUST STOP AND SAY WE'LL PAY IT ON JUNE 30TH. IT MAY FLOW INTO THE NEW YEAR, AND WE NEED TO SEEK AUTHORIZATION TO ROLL THEM INTO THE NEW YEAR AND PAY THEM FROM THERE. THAT'S WHAT'S GOING ON.

AND IF I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY OTHER WAY THAT WE COULD DO THIS, I'VE SEEN JUST CUTTING OFF EVERYTHING, WE WOULD STILL HAVE THINGS THAT ROLL OVER INTO THE NEW YEAR BECAUSE OF THE FISCAL YEAR. SO BASED ON WHAT WE'RE SAYING, WE'RE GOING TO BE COMING BACK TO THIS TABLE EVERY, EVERY YEAR, PRETTY MUCH. AND IN THE IN, IN, IN IN THE PAST, HISTORICALLY, WE'VE REQUESTED THIS. IT'S A ROUTINE REQUEST. WE PROVIDE THE DETAIL. AND YOU GUYS HAVE ALWAYS, ALWAYS

[00:30:04]

ABSOLUTELY, SIR. PUBLIC TO KNOW. YES. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL I GOT, MR. MAYOR. ALL RIGHT. VICE MAYOR HILL, IF I MAY, MR. MAYOR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE THE CITY TO GET FY 2026. THE 2.97712 61. ALL RIGHT, COUNCILMAN JONES, I SECOND RIGHT MOTION AND A SECOND. THANK YOU. AT THIS TIME IS HERE. CAN YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL COUNCIL MEMBER CUTHBERT? AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER. JONES. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER. MYERS. COUNCIL MEMBER. WESTBROOK. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER. SMITH. LEE. VICE MAYOR. HILL. AYE. MAYOR. AYE, SIR.

THAT MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU GUYS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

SO I KNOW MR. TAKARI TUCKER IS HERE FROM THE SCHOOL BOARD AS WELL. HELLO. DANCE TO MR. DANCE.

MR. BERNARD LUNDY, THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING OUT. AND THANK YOU FOR WHAT Y'ALL DO FOR PETERSBURG. OKAY, MR. MAYOR, IF I MAY. VICE MAYOR. AND CONGRATULATIONS ON GETTING THREE OF OUR SCHOOL FULLY ACCREDITED. SO LET'S GIVE THEM APPLAUSE FOR THAT. THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, NEXT WE'RE ON TO ITEM A, B, WHICH IS A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT BETWEEN TWO PETERSBURG LLC AND THE CITY OF PETERSBURG FOR DEVELOPMENT OF COLLEGE YARD. MR. ALTMAN, IT'S THIS ITEM GOING NOW OR IS IT LATER ON IT WILL. SO THIS THIS ITEM IS SEPARATE FROM THE REZONING, WHICH IS LATER ON. THEY'RE KIND OF COMPANION ITEMS, IF YOU WILL. SO COUNCIL WE HAD CITY HAD ENTERED INTO AN OPTION AGREEMENT WITH THE DEVELOPER IN JANUARY OF LAST YEAR WITH PETERSBURG LLC FOR AN OPTION TO PURCHASE THE COLLIER YARD PROPERTY FROM THE CITY, AND THEY BEGAN TO DO ALL THEIR DUE DILIGENCE WORK. THEY ENTERED INTO A SUPPLEMENTAL AGREEMENT WITH US TO PURCHASE ADDITIONAL PROPERTY IN APRIL OF LAST YEAR TO SUPPORT THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROPERTY, AND THEY DID ALL THEIR DUE DILIGENCE WORK THERE. SO THIS EVENING WE HAVE THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR THE ONE AUTHORIZING THE PURCHASE OF THE PROPERTY, BUT ALSO THAT SETS THE TERMS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROPERTY. ALL OF THIS PROPERTY WOULD BE THE TOTAL TOTAL PROPERTY, THIS 172 ACRES AT COLLIER YARD, IN THE 62 ACRES OF UNIMPROVED LAND WOULD THEN BE UTILIZED AND DEVELOPED BY PETERSBURG, LLC FOR DATA CENTER PROJECT AND SUPPORTING FACILITIES ON THE PROPERTY. IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS OF COUNCIL, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. AT THIS TIME. MR. WILLIAMS, DO DO YOU WANT TO TO COMBINE THIS, THIS WITH THE OTHER ONE OR DO A SEPARATE. YOU CAN'T OKAY. ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT. DISCUSSION. YES. COUNCILMAN WESTBROOK ALL RIGHT. ANY ALL RIGHT, COUNCILMAN CUTHBERT. I'M LOOKING TO SEE WHERE WE ARE ON THE AGENDA. MR. MAYOR, WE'RE AT ITEM 8BAB, PULL YOUR MICROPHONE DOWN. EIGHT B. YES, PULL. PULL YOUR MICROPHONE DOWN. MICROPHONE. I DON'T HAVE AN A B ON MY AGENDA. WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? EIGHT B. ALL RIGHT, BACK TO VICE MAYOR HILL.

YOU GOT A QUESTION? I'M GOOD. NO QUESTION. MY ONLY QUESTION IS BECAUSE I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE ARE HERE FOR THAT. JUST TO CLEAR THAT UP, THERE'S NO PUBLIC DISCUSSION ON THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. THERE'S ONLY PUBLIC DISCUSSION ON THE ZONING, THE REZONING. I JUST WANT TO CLEAR THAT UP FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. ARE YOU READY? YES. ALL RIGHT, COUNCILMAN JONES, BEFORE I MAKE THE MOTION, I'LL MAKE THE MOTION. OKAY, I DID HAVE A COMMENT. YEAH. GO AHEAD. GO FOR IT. ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY. SO I KNOW MOST OF YOU ARE HERE FOR THE DATA CENTER PROJECT. I WOULD SAY THAT BEING THAT IT IS IN SEVENTH WARD, I AM TAKING THE LEAD AS THE FACE OF THIS PROJECT. MANY OF YOU KNOW, I'VE

[00:35:03]

[00:40:06]

ONCE AGAIN, I PLEDGE MY SUPPORT FOR THIS PROJECT ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS, INCLUDING AGAIN THE MOST RECENT ZONING COMMISSION MEETING TO APPROVE THIS PROJECT AND THE REZONING. MY SUPPORT COMES WITH CLEAR EXPECTATIONS. HOWEVER, ONGOING COMMUNITY UPDATES. THIS WILL NOT BE THE END OF IT ALL. STANDING PUBLIC MEETINGS HOSTED BY THE WARRENTON GROUP, WHERE QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS CAN CONTINUE TO BE ANSWERED AND HEARD. A WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT STRATEGY TO EQUIP PETERSBURG RESIDENTS FOR BOTH CONSTRUCTION AND OPERATION ROLES IN DATA CENTERS AND AND RELATED TRADES. THEY'RE WILLING TO WORK WITH LOCAL COMMUNITIES EDUCATIONAL, WHETHER IT BE PETERSBURG HIGH OR VIRGINIA STATE, TO AGAIN MAKE SURE THAT PETERSBURG RESIDENTS HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY AT JOBS THAT ARE ABOUT TO BE BROUGHT INTO THIS. I SAY BILLION DOLLAR PROJECT. PERIODIC UPDATES TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND CITY LEADERSHIP SO THAT AGAIN, IF I MISS IT, CITY MANAGER ALTMAN, CITY MANAGER, MR. MR. MILLER IN THE BACK, WE ALL CAN PLAY A ROLE AS WELL AS ALL OF CITY COUNCIL BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST MY WARD THAT'S BEING AFFECTED, IT'S THE CITY. EVERYBODY CAN PLAY A POINT AND WE CAN HAVE CONTINUED UPDATES TO KEEP THE PUBLIC ON TRACK AND HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE. IN ADDITION, WE'RE SETTING ENFORCEABLE STANDARDS FOR DESIGN, NEIGHBORHOOD COMPATIBILITY AND DAY TO DAY IMPACTS. I KNOW THE IMPACT IS GOING TO MAKE ON RAMBLEWOOD, AND THE PEOPLE IN THIS AUDIENCE THAT ARE FROM RAMBLEWOOD KNOW THAT I'VE BEEN LIVING IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, AND I DON'T HAVE TO GO INTO THAT. SO I KNOW THE IMPACT IS GOING TO BRING ON ME IT PERSONALLY, BUT THEY'VE THEY'VE PUT UP BUFFERS, A MINIMUM 125 FOOT BUFFER ALONG THE EDGE NEAREST TO HOMES, 25% MORE THAN THE 100 FOOT M-1 REQUIREMENT, A TREE CANOPY PRESERVE HEALTHY TREE BUFFERS WHERE FEASIBLE AND RETAIN EXISTING MATURE CANOPY WHERE EXISTS TODAY. AGAIN, MAKING SURE THAT WE CAN REBUILD RAMBLEWOOD FOR THAT FORESTY PLACE THAT I ONCE KNEW IT AS BUILDING PLACEMENT SITE BUILDING SO THAT IN LOCATIONS IT SEPARATED MORE THAN 350FT OR MORE FROM THE HOUSES, LIGHTING AND NOISE, WORKING WITH LIGHTING LIMITS AND MEASURABLE NOISE THRESHOLDS. WE'RE NOT TRYING TO GET OUTDATED DATA CENTERS THAT ARE GOING TO BE LOUD. THESE WILL BE STATE OF THE ART DATA CENTERS THAT ARE VERY QUIET AND WILL HAVE A CONVERSATION, JUST AS I KEEP SAYING, AS WE'RE HAVING IN THIS ROOM, EVEN WITHOUT MICROPHONES AND CONSTRUCTION IMPACTS, THE MAIN THING THAT'S GOING TO COME UP IN ZONING MINIMIZE DISRUPTIONS THROUGH STRICT HOURS, DESIGNATED ROUTES, AND QUICK RESPONSES TO COMMUNITY REQUESTS. THEY HAVE AGREED THAT CONSTRUCTION WILL NOT COME DOWN DODSON ROAD, COME INTO THE RAMBLEWOOD SUBDIVISION AND DOWN DODSON ROAD. THE MAIN AREA WILL BE OFF OF DEFENSE ROAD. THE SECOND ACCESS POINT WILL BE OFF OF HALIFAX ROAD AND THEN THE DODSON ROAD IS FOR EMERGENCY USE ONLY. AGAIN, WE WILL FOCUS ON WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT INVOLVING VIRGINIA STATE. BUT LET ME SPEAK TO A CONCERN. I'VE HEARD DIRECTLY THAT THIS PROJECT TARGETS COMMUNITIES OF COLOR OR HISTORICALLY DISENFRANCHIZED NEIGHBORHOODS ACROSS VIRGINIA. THE POLICY DIRECTION IS TOWARD EQUITY AND TRANSPARENCY, ENSURING THE COSTS ARE NOT UNFAIRLY SHIFTED TO RESIDENTS. AGAIN, ABOUT THOSE ENVIRONMENTAL COSTS ARE REVIEWED, AND THAT LOCALITIES HAVE THE DATA NEEDED TO PROTECT HEALTH AND QUALITY OF LIFE. I AND THIS COUNCIL SHARE THE COMMITMENT, PARTICIPATION, PARTICIPATION, PARTICIPATION TO ENSURE THE OUTCOMES THAT REFLECT OUR VALUES. I CAN CONTINUE ON. THIS PROJECT WILL ROLL OUT OVER 3 TO 5 YEARS, SO THE TIME FOR DISCUSSION IS NOT LIMITED TO TONIGHT, 3 TO 5 YEARS. THAT TIMELINE CREATES MULTIPLE CHECKPOINTS TO VERIFY PERFORMANCE, AND IF COMMITMENTS SLIP, THERE WILL BE NO NEXT PHASE. IT IS THAT SIMPLE. CHANGE IS NEVER EASY. SOMETIMES IT'S HARD AND SOMETIMES IT'S SCARY. BUT CHANGE CAN LEAD TO A STRONGER CITY. WHEN WE INSIST ON THE RIGHT GUARDRAILS, THE RIGHT AGREEMENTS, AND THE RIGHT PARTNERSHIPS AROUND THE COUNTRY, COMMUNITIES THAT NEGOTIATED WELL HAVE SECURED STRONGER TAX BASES, BETTER CONNECTIVITY AND BROADER ECONOMIC FOOTING. AND THEN THE RESEARCH BACKS THIS UP THAT THE BENEFITS DON'T JUST HAPPEN BY ACCIDENT, THEY HAPPEN BY DESIGN THROUGH COMMUNITY AGREEMENTS AND ACCOUNTABILITY. THAT WORD KEEPS COMING UP.

ACCOUNTABILITY. TONIGHT I'M ASKING FOR YOUR WILLINGNESS TO UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTIONS AND YOUR IDEAS. LET THIS PROCESS TO CODIFY COMMUNITY AGREEMENTS THAT PROTECT OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, GROW OPPORTUNITY, AND REFLECT WHO WE ARE. I BELIEVE IN THE CHANGE TAKING PLACE IN

[00:45:04]

GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN TOO. THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE WARRENTON GROUP IS PROPOSING TO PAY THE CITY APPROXIMATELY $5,000 PER ACRE FOR THIS 172 ACRE TRACT. IS THAT THE CASE? I DON'T REMEMBER THE EXACT AMOUNT, BUT IT'S IT'S MEMORIALIZED IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. I DON'T UNDERSTAND YOU. I'M SORRY. I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT AMOUNT ON THE TOP OF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT IT'S MEMORIALIZED IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, SO YOU MAY HAVE THAT INFORMATION WITH YOU. WELL, CAN SOMEONE ANSWER THAT QUESTION FOR ME, PLEASE? FOR THE WITH THE WARRENTON GROUP, IS IT APPROXIMATELY $5,000 AN ACRE? IT'S APPROXIMATELY THAT. YEAH. OKAY. AND AT THE MOMENT THERE IS NO AGREEMENT WITH WARRENTON GROUP BECAUSE THE WARRENTON GROUP HAS ALLOWED THE OPTION AGREEMENT TO EXPIRE AND EXPIRED JANUARY 7TH OF 2026. ISN'T THAT THE CASE? THAT'S NOT THE CASE. THE OPTION AGREEMENT HAS BEEN EXERCISED AND HAS BEEN SIGNED OFF BY THE CITY MANAGER. WELL, IT HAD A EXPIRATION DATE IN IT AND IT WAS DATED, I THINK, JANUARY 7TH OF 2025. MR. ALTMAN, DO WE HAVE AN OPERATIVE AGREEMENT THAT BINDS THE CITY AT THIS POINT? SO WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT, THE DEVELOPMENT, THE PREDEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, THE OPTION AGREEMENT THAT WE HAD, THERE WERE RENEWAL CLAUSES IN THERE WHICH THEY HAVE BEEN MEETING THE RENEWAL CLAUSES. WELL, THERE WAS ONE RENEWAL CLAUSE FOR SIX MONTHS AND THAT EXPIRED JANUARY 7TH OF 2026. ISN'T THAT THE CASE? THEY ACTUALLY RENEWED WITHIN THE THEY THEY THEY MET THE REQUIREMENT TO RENEW THAT WITH THAT DATE. BUT I DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME, SO I APOLOGIZE. WELL I AGREE THEY EXERCISED AN AGREEMENT TO OR THEY EXERCISE THEIR OPTION TO EXTEND THE THE OPTION THROUGH JANUARY 7TH OF 2026. BUT COME JANUARY 8TH OF 2026, THAT OPTION AGREEMENT WAS OF NO EFFECT. ISN'T THAT THE CASE? NO. WELL, MAYBE THE CITY ATTORNEY CAN HELP ME. MR. CITY ATTORNEY DIDN'T THE. AND MAYBE I'M JUST DEAD WRONG, BUT I THOUGHT THAT THE OPTION AGREEMENT EXPIRED. JANUARY 7TH OR JANUARY 8TH OF 2026. AM I WRONG ABOUT THAT? WHAT YOU'RE DESCRIBING SOUNDS CORRECT, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW THIS WAS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE ON THE AGENDA. IT WAS PUT ON AT THE LAST MINUTE, SO I CAN'T COULDN'T TELL YOU. RIGHT. AS WE SIT HERE REGARDING THE EXTENSION. BUT WHAT YOU'RE DESCRIBING IS, IS WHAT I RECALL, RIGHT. IT'S WHAT I RECALL AS WELL. SO THAT MEANS THAT THERE'S NO BINDING AGREEMENT AT THIS MOMENT AS WE SPEAK, WHATEVER TIME IT IS ON THIS FEBRUARY 17TH, THERE IS NO BINDING AGREEMENT REQUIRING THE CITY TO SELL THE 172 ACRES TO THE WARRENTON GROUP. IS THAT A FAIR STATEMENT? THAT IS, THAT IS NOT A FAIR STATEMENT IN MY RECOLLECTION. WE'VE EXERCISED THE OPTION THAT WAS AVAILABLE. THE OPTION WAS SIGNED OFF BY THE CITY MANAGER, WHO YOU GUYS AUTHORIZED TO ACT ON YOUR BEHALF. AND SO IN, IN OUR MIND AND ON THE DOCUMENTS THAT WE HAVE, WE ARE WE ARE OPTION HAS BEEN EXERCISED AND WE ARE IN.

WE'RE WE'RE ALIGNED WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF, OF THE COUNCIL. WELL, I'VE CERTAINLY NOT SEEN THAT AGREEMENT. AND I HAVE SEEN THE ONE THAT SAYS THAT IT WAS DATED JANUARY 7TH OF 2025, AND IT'S NOW FEBRUARY 17TH OF 2026 TO PULL IT UP ON MY LAPTOP AND SHOW IT TO YOU. IF YOU IF IF

[00:50:02]

AND MY QUESTION WAS, IN THE LAST SAY, 13 MONTHS, HAS THE WARRENTON GROUP BEEN EXPLORING MARKETING POSSIBILITIES FOR THE 172 ACRES? IS THAT THE CASE? SO THE WARRENTON GROUP HAS FIELDED CONVERSATIONS WITH END USERS WHO ARE INTERESTED, WHO HAVE HEARD ABOUT THIS DEVELOPMENT THAT'S OCCURRING AND ARE INTERESTED IN FINDING OUT MORE INFORMATION ABOUT IT. SO, YEAH, SO WE'VE TALKED TO A NUMBER OF POSSIBLE END USERS. ALL RIGHT. AND IN EXPLORING THAT MARKET, WHAT RANGE OF PRICES PER ACRE HAS THE WARRENTON GROUP BEEN SEEKING. SO AGAIN, WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT ANY PER ACRE PRICE AT THIS POINT IN TIME. WE'RE TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE NEEDS OF THE EVENTUAL END USER. AS YOU KNOW, THESE ARE VERY NUANCED PROJECTS.

IT ALL DEPENDS ON WHO THE END USER IS. IF IT'S SOMEONE THAT'S WORKING ON AI, THE SPECIFICATIONS FOR THE SITE MIGHT BE DIFFERENT FROM SOMEONE THAT'S JUST WORKING TO HAVE THE SITE FOR DATA STORAGE UNTIL IT'S TOO EARLY IN OUR CONVERSATIONS TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT PRICING. ALL RIGHT, WELL, LET ME BACK UP A STEP. I KNOW THE THE VERB TO FLIP IS HAS SOME NEGATIVE CONNOTATIONS TO IT, BUT IS THE WARRENTON GROUP BASICALLY SEEKING TO FLIP THIS 172 ACRES? NO. SO WE'VE COMMITTED TO THIS CITY COUNCIL ON MANY OCCASIONS THAT WE WILL BE HERE TO DEVELOP THIS SITE THROUGH THE END. BUT YOU'RE NOT THE THE WARRENTON GROUP IS NOT THE END USER. THE WARRENTON GROUP IS NOT GOING TO BUILD ITSELF A DATA CENTER ON THIS 172 ACRES, IS IT? NO, BUT BUT THE WARRENTON GROUP WILL ACT AS A DEVELOPER TO ENSURE THAT THE DATA CENTER IS BUILT ACCORDING TO THE SPECIFICATIONS AND REQUIREMENTS OF THIS CITY.

YEAH, BUT. SO WARRENTON GROUP IS GOING TO SEEKS TO BUY THE PROPERTY FROM THE CITY OF PETERSBURG AND THEN SELL THE PROPERTY TO A DATA CENTER DEVELOPER LIKE GOOGLE OR AMAZON OR MICROSOFT OR ONE OF THE BIG BOYS, AM I RIGHT? OR SO I THINK YOU'RE CONFLATING SOME SOME ISSUES HERE. SO LET ME JUST BE CLEAR. SO DATA CENTER DEVELOPERS DEVELOP IN PARTNERSHIP WITH TYPICAL END USERS. AND SO WE'RE EARLY IN OUR OUR IN OUR IN OUR EXPLORATION WITH A WITH A WITH AN END USER. SO WE DON'T EXACTLY KNOW AT THIS POINT IN TIME WHAT THE DISPOSITION WOULD LOOK LIKE. ARE WE GOING TO BE A JOINT DEVELOPMENT PARTNER. WHAT DOES THAT JOINT DEVELOPMENT LOOK LIKE? WHAT PORTION OF THAT DEVELOPMENT DO WE OWN AGAIN? AS COUNCILMEMBER WESTBROOK SAID, THIS IS A 3 TO 5 YEAR PROCESS. IT BECAUSE OF THE TIMELINE OF A TYPICAL PROJECT LIKE THIS. WE'RE GOING TO BE COMING BACK TO YOU OVER AND OVER. AND SO I CAN'T STAND HERE RIGHT NOW AND TELL YOU, YOU KNOW, CHAPTER AND VERSE HOW THIS WILL BE IN ITS FINAL STAGE. DO YOU WANT TO ADD SOMETHING? ALL RIGHT. I JUST WANT TO THANK THE COUNCIL. AND ALSO I WANTED TO GO TO. YEAH OKAY. YEAH. WARREN WILLIAMS WITH THE WARRENTON GROUP I JUST WANTED TO COME AND MAKE SURE I ACKNOWLEDGE THE COUNCIL TODAY. I ALSO WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU ALL FOR THOSE THAT DON'T KNOW US, I STARTED MY COMPANY IN 2007, AND I JUST WANTED TO

[00:55:06]

THANK YOU. AND, MR. CITY ATTORNEY, DID YOU EVER RECEIVE A DOCUMENT ARTETA SENT IT TO YOU TO YOUR EMAIL. SO IN LOOKING AT THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THERE IS SIX MONTHS AND THEN A SIX MONTH EXTENSION. SO THAT TAKES US TO JANUARY OF 2026. WE DID HAVE A CONVERSATION IN MEETING WITH THEM IN CLOSED SESSION, I THINK IN THE NOVEMBER TIME FRAME, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, AND DISCUSS THE PROJECT ABOUT MOVING FORWARD. SO THAT IS THE SIX MONTH EXTENSION WAS DONE, BUT THE AGREEMENT ALLOWED FOR THE EXTENSION, RIGHT? IT ALLOWED FOR AN EXTENSION IN THE THE EXTENSION THAT WAS ALLOWED EXPIRED JANUARY 7TH OF 2026. IS THAT THE CASE? THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN THE TOTAL SIX MONTHS ON THE AND THEN THE ONE ADDITIONAL EXTENSION FOR SIX MONTHS. SO BACK TO MY QUESTION OF ABOUT TEN MINUTES AGO AS WE SIT HERE NOW, IS THIS WOULD YOU AGREE THAT THE CITY IS NOT OBLIGATED TO SELL ANYTHING TO THE WARRENTON GROUP? WELL, I THINK I'M NOT YOUR LAWYER, BUT UNDER THE TERMS OF THE AGREEMENT, THE ADDITIONAL SIX MONTHS HAS EXPIRED. I WOULD SAY THAT IS THE CORRECT ANSWER. COUNCIL DOES HAVE THE ABILITY TO EXTEND THE AGREEMENT AND MOVE FORWARD IF IT CHOOSES. I THINK, AND I WOULD SAY, I THINK AS A RESULT OF THE CLOSED SESSION MEETING THAT WE HAD, I THINK EVERYBODY WAS UNDER THE ASSUMPTION THAT WE WERE MOVING FORWARD WITH THE PROJECT TO AND ALSO WITH PROVIDING MR. WESTBROOK SOME TIME TO HAVE SOME MEETINGS IN HIS WARD. BUT THAT WAS BEFORE THE EXTENSION FOR THE AGREEMENT EXPIRED, WASN'T IT? YES, SIR. ALL RIGHT. SO AT THIS TIME I'D LIKE TO CALL FOR THE QUESTION. MOTION HAS BEEN SECONDED. ALL RIGHT. MISS, CAN YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? POINT OF ORDER, MR. MAYOR. IT MIGHT BE A GOOD IDEA TO AMEND THAT MOTION IF COUNCIL'S GOING TO VOTE IN THE AFFIRMATIVE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT TO PROCEED WITH THE EXTENSION AND ADOPT THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. THAT WAY, IT COVERS THE GAP THAT COUNCILMAN CUTHBERT IS REFERENCING. ALL RIGHT, COUNCILMAN WESTBROOK, SO I WOULD MAKE THAT AMENDMENT TO EXTEND THE AGREEMENT TO COVER THIS PERIOD OVER THE JANUARY 7TH DATE WITH THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH MY MOTION. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. COUNCIL COUNCILMAN JONES, I SECOND ALL RIGHT, AT THIS TIME, IT'S WILL YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL, COUNCILMAN CUTHBERT? AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER. JONES. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER. MYERS. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER.

[01:00:05]

[9. Official Public Hearings ]

ONE OF MY YOUNG COLLEAGUES, BEN WILSON, SITTING AT THE END OF THE SEATS OVER THERE IS STEVE FORBES, WHO'S WITH SANDY ANDERSON, WHO'S THE BOND COUNCIL THAT ACTUALLY WROTE THE RESOLUTION AND THE PUBLIC HEARING THAT IS GOING TO OCCUR THIS EVENING. WE'LL BE VERY BRIEF. THIS IS NOTHING MORE THAN IF YOU'RE FORTUNATE TO, LET'S SAY, OWN A HOME OR HAVE A CAR AND YOU HAVE SOME FINANCING. WE ARE LOOKING AT TAKING AN INTEREST RATE THAT'S FIXED AND REDUCING THAT INTEREST RATE AND BASICALLY SAVING THE CITY MONEY, NOT EXTENDING THE FINAL MATURITY, JUST SIMPLY TAKING ADVANTAGE OF LOWER INTEREST RATES. THE REASON WE CAN DO THAT, IN PART, IS BECAUSE THE CITY HAS A VERY GOOD CREDIT RATING RIGHT NOW, A VERY GOOD CREDIT STANDING. AND AS A RESULT OF ALL THAT, I'LL ASK BEN TO TALK FOR A COUPLE OF MOMENTS ABOUT THIS. BUT OTHERWISE, THIS IS NOTHING MORE THAN GIVING THAT OPPORTUNITY AND HOPEFULLY MOVING FORWARD IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS. SO, BEN. YEAH, SO GOOD EVENING.

THANK YOU FOR HAVING US TONIGHT. JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF WHAT WE'VE DONE HERE. WE ARE LOOKING AT REFINANCING THESE 2015 BONDS THAT WERE ISSUED FOR WATER AND SEWER PURPOSES. AS DAVID ALLUDED TO, WE ARE NOT PLANNING TO EXTEND THE MATURITY OF THESE.

WE ARE JUST EXCHANGING HIGHER INTEREST RATES FOR LOWER INTEREST RATES. AT YOUR LAST MEETING IN JANUARY, YOU DID GIVE US DIRECTION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH WHAT WE WOULD CALL A DUAL TRACK PROCESS. THE FIRST OF THOSE TRACKS WAS TO PURSUE THE REFUNDING THROUGH THE VIRGINIA RESOURCES AUTHORITY, WHICH IS WHERE THESE BONDS WERE ORIGINALLY ISSUED. THE SECOND TRACK WAS TO GIVE BANKS AN OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE THE REFINANCING AS WELL. WE DID GET PROPOSALS BACK FROM BANKS LAST WEEK, AND BASED ON THE CURRENT MARKET FOR VIRGINIA RESOURCES AUTHORITY, THOSE INTEREST RATES ARE LOWER THAN WHAT THE BANKS PROVIDED. SO WHAT WE ARE RECOMMENDING IS THAT YOU MOVE FORWARD WITH VIRGINIA RESOURCES AUTHORITY AT THIS TIME. THE INTEREST RATES FOR VRE ARE NOT GOING TO BE KNOWN UNTIL LATER IN APRIL, BUT THE RESOLUTION THAT IS BEFORE YOU WILL ALLOW YOU TO WITHDRAW. IF YOU DON'T MEET A MINIMUM THRESHOLD FOR SAVINGS, THAT THAT IS AN INDUSTRY STANDARD. SO YOU ARE NOT GOING TO BE OBLIGATED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS REFINANCING IF WHEN THE TIME COMES, THE INTEREST RATES ARE TOO HIGH AND IT WON'T WORK, THIS WILL BE THE ONLY ACTION THAT YOU HAVE TO TAKE WITH RESPECT TO THIS REFINANCING. AND LIKE I MENTIONED, WE WILL KNOW FOR CERTAIN IN APRIL, LATE APRIL, EARLY MAY WHAT WHAT THOSE INTEREST RATES WILL LOOK LIKE AND HOW MUCH SAVINGS WILL ACTUALLY BE GENERATED. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU BEN. ALL RIGHT. QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PUBLIC HEARING. OKAY. NEXT WE OPEN THE FLOOR FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE CONSIDERATION OF A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE OF ONE OR MORE SERIES OF GENERAL OBLIGATION AND REFUNDING BONDS OF THE CITY OF PETERSBURG IN THE MAXIMUM AGGREGATE PRINCIPAL OF 5,600,000, TO REFUND THE CITY'S OUTSTANDING WATER AND SEWER REVENUE BONDS. SERIES 2015, AND PAY ALL RELATED COSTS OF ISSUANCE. OKAY, OKAY. SEEING NO HANDS IN THIS PUBLIC HEARING.

NEXT, WE'LL GO TO COUNCILMAN JONES. QUESTION. YES. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. MR. DAVENPORT, FIRST I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO YOU AND YOUR COLLEAGUES FOR KEEPING US ON TRACK AND TO OUR FINANCE DEPARTMENT AS WELL. I GOT A QUESTION, BECAUSE WE'RE ALL LEARNING, AND I WANT THE PUBLIC TO KNOW WHEN WE SAY REFUND. I'M THINKING, AND PROBABLY THE PUBLIC IS THINKING WHEN WE GET REFUND, HOW IS THAT GOING TO HELP US AS A CITIZEN WITH OUR WATER AND SEWER AND THINGS LIKE, IS THAT GOING TO HELP US REDUCE, OR IS IT GOING TO HELP THE CITIZENS IN ANY WAY OR OR WHAT DO WE HELP EXPLAIN THAT TO ME AND THE QUESTION. SO THINK OF IT THIS WAY AGAIN, IF YOU HAVE

[01:05:01]

THAT'S WHAT WE GENERALLY FOLLOW. THAT'S WHAT YOU ALL GENERALLY FOLLOW AS LOCAL GOVERNMENTS. IF WE MEET THAT, THEN WE RECOMMEND MOVING FORWARD ON THAT DAY. AND THESE BONDS, BY THE WAY, ARE COMPETITIVELY SOLD. WE ARE WE'RE YOUR FIDUCIARY. SO WE DON'T SELL THEM. WE DON'T BUY THEM. WE SIMPLY SET THAT UP SO THAT ANY AND EVERY INVESTMENT BANKING AND BROKERAGE FIRM CAN BID ON IT. WHOEVER BIDS THE LOWEST, LOWEST INTEREST RATE GETS TO WIN THOSE BONDS. SO FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, WE HAVE NO BIAS. WE HAVE NO SENSE WHO'S GOING TO WIN THAT. BUT WHAT WE WOULD DO IS IF IT WORKS OUT, WE'LL PROBABLY COME BACK IN JUNE AND SAY, THIS IS THE RESULTS AS WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST, BUT HOPEFULLY THAT'S THE HELP. SO IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, YOU HAVE THIS ENTERPRISE AND YOU'VE GOT SEVERAL MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF EXPENSES. IF WE CAN BRING THAT DOWN BY A FEW HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS, THAT JUST SIMPLY MAKES THE OVERALL BURDEN FOR THE ENTERPRISE FUND THAT MUCH LESS. THAT'S REALLY WHAT THAT'S ABOUT. COUNCILMAN, THANK YOU SO MUCH. I APPRECIATE IT. THAT'S ALL I GOT, MR. MAYOR. OKAY. VICE MAYOR. THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU'VE DONE FOR US. WE LOOK PRETTY GOOD FROM 2016, DON'T WE? WE DO. VERY GOOD.

LONG WAY, MR. MAYOR. MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT. WE APPROVE THE RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE OF ONE OR MORE SERIES OF GENERAL OBLIGATIONS AND REFUNDING BONDS OF THE CITY OF PETERSBURG. I SECOND, ALL RIGHT. AND THAT'S IN THE AMOUNT OF 5,600,000 REFUNDED THE CITY'S OUTSTANDING WATER AND SEWER REVENUE BONDS SERIES 2015 AND PAY ALL RELATED COSTS OF ISSUANCE AT THIS TIME. MISS HILL, CAN YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL COUNCIL MEMBER CUTHBERT? I'M SORRY. I, COUNCIL MEMBER. JONES. COUNCILMEMBER. MYERS. COUNCIL MEMBER.

WESTBROOK. COUNCIL MEMBER. SMITH. LEE. VICE MAYOR. HILL. AYE. MAYOR. PARA. AYE, SIR.

THAT MOTION CARRIES. NEXT IS ITEM NINE B. THANK YOU SO MUCH, MISS ROSE WILSON, FOR WHAT YOU DO. THANK YOU. NEXT IS ITEM B, PUBLIC HEARING FOR CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE TO APPROVE A REQUEST BY RAYMOND AKOURY ON BEHALF OF GC INVESTMENTS CARE OF HOT ROD MOTORSPORTS FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR MULTIPLE FAMILY DWELLINGS AS AUTHORIZED AND CONTROLLED BY THE R5 MULTIPLE DWELLING DISTRICT STANDARDS AT 1325 WEST WASHINGTON STREET.

PARCEL ID 024230005 AND THE B2 GENERAL COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING MAYOR. GOOD EVENING. COUNCIL. SO THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU IS A SPECIAL USE PERMIT.

REQUEST FOR PROPERTY AT 1325 WEST WASHINGTON STREET. IT'S A FOUR ACRE PROPERTY LOCATED IN THE B2 GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT. SO AS YOU SEE, THE PROPERTY HAS DOUBLE FRONTAGE, A PORTION ALONG WEST WASHINGTON, AND THE REAR ABUTS HINTON STREET. THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING TO CONSTRUCT SEVEN TOWNHOME STYLE APARTMENT UNITS, AND A SPECIAL USE PERMIT IS REQUIRED FOR MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE B2 DISTRICT, AND IF APPROVED, IT WOULD BE SUBJECT TO THE STANDARDS OF OUR R5 DISTRICT, WHICH IS A MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT.

SO THIS IS JUST A VIEW OF THE STREET FRONTAGE ALONG WEST WASHINGTON AS IT STANDS TODAY.

[01:10:07]

THEY'RE NOT FOR INDIVIDUAL OWNERSHIP. THE UNITS ARE TWO STORIES, TWO BEDROOMS EACH APPROXIMATELY 1300 SQUARE FEET. THEY INCLUDE A COVERED FRONT PORCH AND A REAR PATIO WITH PRIVACY FENCES BETWEEN THE UNITS. PRIMARY SITE ACCESS IS PROVIDED FROM THE WEST WASHINGTON STREET SIDE, WITH ACCESS LIMITED ON THE HINTON STREET SIDE, SO ON THE SITE IT INCLUDES ONE BLOCK OF THREE UNITS, ONE BLOCK OF FOUR UNITS, PARDON ME, AS WELL AS A COMMON AREA TO THE NORTH OR THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY ALONG HINTON STREET. SO THIS IS FROM THE ELEVATIONS THAT WERE PROVIDED. AGAIN, THESE ARE TWO STORY UNITS. THEY LOOK LIKE WHAT YOU WOULD CALL A TOWNHOME OR A ROW HOUSE, BUT THEY ARE MULTIFAMILY, DESIGNED FOR. MAY I INTERRUPT, DOES THAT LOOK LIKE A TOWNHOME TO YOU, OR DOES THAT LOOK LIKE A DOUBLE TENEMENT TO YOU? TO ME PERSONALLY, I IT'S A SECTION OF A TOWNHOME, I THINK. SO AGAIN, THEY'RE IN A STICK OF THREE AND A STICK OF FOUR. LOOKS LIKE A DOUBLE TENEMENT TO ME. SURE. SO IT'S TWO OF THE THREE UNITS BEING SHOWN. ARE THESE RENTAL UNITS RENTAL? YES, SIR. ORIENTAL RENTAL? YES. GO AHEAD, KEEP ON. OKAY OKAY. SO WE DID HAVE SOME CONSIDERATIONS THAT STAFF HAVE BROUGHT FORWARD. ONE THING THAT COMES UP WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT IS PARKING AND DEMANDS FOR RESIDENTS AS WELL AS VISITORS. SO ON THIS SITE, THEY'VE SHOWN THE MINIMUM THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED FOR PARKING. BUT AGAIN, THAT DEMAND IS SOMETIMES HIGHER WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT APARTMENTS. ANOTHER CONSIDERATION WAS THAT THE PLANS DON'T SHOW LANDSCAPING THROUGHOUT THE SITE. AS YOU ALL KNOW, WE RECENTLY ADOPTED SOME MORE ROBUST REQUIREMENTS FOR PARKING PLANTINGS THROUGHOUT PARKING AREAS AS WELL AS THROUGHOUT A FULL SITE. THE BUILDING MATERIALS LISTED WERE. THEY'RE NOT PROHIBITED, BUT STAFF WOULD ENCOURAGE, YOU KNOW, HIGHER QUALITY MATERIALS, PARTICULARLY FOR SIDING AND WINDOWS. AND THEN THE PLAN DID NOT INCLUDE DETAIL ON, YOU KNOW, RESIDENT AMENITIES, PARTICULARLY WITHIN THE COMMON AREA. SO LOOKING AT THE ZONING MAP, EVERYTHING ALONG WASHINGTON STREET SHARES THAT COMMERCIAL ZONING. BUT THERE IS A MIX. THERE ARE SOME RESIDENCES THROUGHOUT. AND THEN TO THE NORTH ALONG HINTON STREET, YOU SEE THE R-3, WHICH IS A TWO FAMILY RESIDENCE ZONING, WHICH THAT THAT STREET IS BUILT OUT WITH RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. SO THIS PROPERTY IS DESIGNATED HISTORIC CORE NEIGHBORHOOD ON OUR FUTURE LAND USE MAP. SO THE KEY TO THESE AREAS IS THAT THEY REFLECT THE HISTORIC DEVELOPMENT PATTERN. WHILE MULTIFAMILY AND INFILL DEVELOPMENT ARE LISTED AS PRIMARY USES, THE PLAN EMPHASIZES THAT THEY NEED TO FIT THE SCALE AND CHARACTER OF THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT IN A NEIGHBORHOOD. SOME OF OUR DEVELOPMENT PRINCIPLES INCLUDE PROVIDING A RANGE OF HOUSING OPTIONS AND ENHANCING PEDESTRIAN BIKEWAY NETWORKS, PRESERVING AND PLANTING TREES. AND THEN ONE OF OUR GOAL STATEMENTS READS THAT THE CITY PETERSBURG, WILL BE A CITY WHERE ALL HOUSING AND NEIGHBORHOODS ARE ATTRACTIVE, SAFE, ACCESSIBLE TO ALL RESIDENTS, AND A KEY OBJECTIVE TO FACILITATE DIVERSE, SAFE, ATTAINABLE AND HIGH QUALITY HOUSING STOCK FOR SUPPORTING MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING OPTIONS. SO STAFF HAD PUT TOGETHER SOME CONDITIONS FOR CONSIDERATION.

THESE WERE REVIEWED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION. THE FIRST IS JUST REQUIRING THAT THE SITE BE DEVELOPED IN ACCORD WITH THE CONCEPT PLAN, AND THE ELEVATIONS THAT WERE PROVIDED.

REQUIREMENT FOR PROVIDING SIDEWALK ALONG THOSE STREET FRONTAGES OR REPAIRING IT WHERE NEEDED. LIMITING ACCESS TO THE SITE TO THE WEST WASHINGTON SIDE. MEETING THOSE MINIMUM LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS THAT WE ADOPTED. PROVIDING SOME AMENITIES ON SITE LIKE A BIKE RACK, AMENITIES WITHIN THE COMMON AREA, ON CALL MANAGEMENT AND MAINTENANCE STAFF AVAILABLE

[01:15:07]

ESSENTIALLY, THEY WOULD BE SIDEWAYS, WHEREAS THE OTHER HOMES ARE FRONTING THE STREET.

SO WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU ALL. I KNOW THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT AND I'M HAPPY TO CLARIFY ANYTHING ON MY END. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU JARED. NEXT WE'LL OPEN UP THE FLOOR FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE TO APPROVE A REQUEST BY RAYMOND KHOURY ON BEHALF OF GC INVESTMENTS, CAB HOT ROD MOTORSPORTS, FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR MULTIPLE FAMILY DWELLINGS AS AUTHORIZED AND CONTROLLED BY THE R5 MULTIPLE DWELLINGS DISTRICT STANDARDS AT 1325 WEST WASHINGTON STREET. YES, MR. TALLEY. GOOD EVENING.

GARY TALLEY. 2323 FORT RICE. I SEE NO OTHER NO OTHER COURSE OF ACTION BUT TO FOLLOW THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND TURN THIS DOWN. THAT'S A TINY LITTLE AREA TO PUT THAT MANY PLACES.

IT'S ABOUT THE SIZE OF MY YARD AND MY HOUSE. THAT'S NOT BIG ENOUGH TO SUPPORT THIS, ESPECIALLY SIDEWAYS. IT'S GOING TO LOOK ODD IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. ALL RIGHT, MISS CHESTER. PAUL CHESTER, 1013 OAKMONT DRIVE I AGREE DENIAL. MY FEELINGS IS THAT. WHAT IS THAT APARTMENT BUILDING? I DON'T SEE THAT EITHER. I SEE IT AS A TWO STORY APARTMENT RENTAL.

NOT BY NO MEANS DOES IT HAVE THE APPEARANCE OF A TOWNHOUSE. AND IS IT ON THE SCRIPT OF THE WEST WASHINGTON STREET, OR IS THAT THE BACK OF THE APARTMENT FROM HINTON STREET? I'M KIND OF CONFUSED A LITTLE BIT. WELL, IN THAT AREA OF WASHINGTON STREET, MOST OF ALL THE HOMES ARE OF THE OLD BRICK DESIGNS. IF YOU GO UP WEST WASHINGTON STREET OR SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, AND AS A MAIN STRIP GOING IN AND OUT OF THIS CITY, BE HONEST, DO NOT KEEP THE PROPERTY AS CLEAN AS THAT PERSONS WHO OWN THEIR HOMES. I CAN ALMOST SEE THERE'S GOING TO BE CONSTANT NEED TO CLEAN UP LITTER. THAT'S MY PERSONAL FEELING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. AJANI. GOOD EVENING JOHNNY. 627 SOUTH SYCAMORE STREET. AGAIN, I'M GOING TO AGREE WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION. WHAT THEY HAVE PRESENTED TO US THIS EVENING. DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT'S GOING TO REFLECT WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO BUILD HERE IN OUR CITY. AND IT'S ALREADY SHOWING THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE USING CHEAP PRODUCTS, WHICH IS TELLING ME THAT THEY'RE NOT INVESTING IN OUR CITY. IT LOOKS AS THOUGH THEY JUST WANT TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF SOMETHING THAT WE'RE BUILDING, AND THEY'RE NOT COMING CORRECT IN WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO. SO I SAY, TURN THIS DOWN. OKAY. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. I WANTED TO HAVE PART OF THE CITY INVESTMENTS, JUST LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL. ALL THE COUNCIL MEMBERS, MAYOR AND VICE MAYOR. THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS TO DO WITH THIS PROJECT? YOU KNOW, I WOULD LIKE YOU KNOW, I WOULD GIVE YOU ALL THE OPPORTUNITY TO ASK ME ABOUT THEM. I JUST WANT TO MAKE IT VERY CLEAR THAT I'VE BEEN IN THIS CONSTRUCTION BUSINESS FOR OVER 45 YEARS. SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT I'VE HEARD ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO, THE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT, THE TYPE OF CONSTRUCTION

[01:20:04]

THIS BUILDING THAT PROPOSED TO BUILD DOES NOT FIT THE ENVIRONMENT. I JUST HEARD THE BUILDERS EXPRESSION. BUILDING MATERIAL DOES NOT MAKE A DIFFERENCE HERE. WHAT THIS IS, I DON'T MIND IF IT'S GOLD, IT'S JUST NOT GOING TO FIT. THEY'RE TRYING TO PUT SOMETHING ACROSS I DON'T KNOW. I CAN'T BRING THIS PICTURE. THEY JUST SHOWED IF SOMEONE'S ABLE TO DO THAT, I'D LIKE THEM TO SHOW THE VIEW FROM HINTON STREET. IF THEY CAN DO. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN DO IT OR NOT, BUT IF YOU CAN. BUT ANYONE REMEMBERS THE VIEW WITH JUST THE GRASS THAT WAS CUT.

THAT'S EXACTLY THE VIEW FROM THE PROPERTY THAT I HAVE. AND THIS PROPERTY THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING TO BUILD IS SIDEWAYS. YOU LOOK OUT YOUR FRONT PORCH AND SEE THE SIDE OF A BUILDING WITH A FENCE. THE PARKING IS RESTRICTED. THEY MAKE IT SOUND PRETTY, BUT IT'S VERY COMPACT.

AND IF SOMEONE ASKS, IS THIS A AN APARTMENT OR WHAT? AND YOU CAN LOOK AT IT AND SEE WHAT WHAT IT RESEMBLES, IT DOESN'T FIT THE DECORUM OF THE AREA. HINTON STREET IS ALL SINGLE HOMES AND A COUPLE OF DOUBLE HOMES. WASHINGTON STREET IS THE SAME AS SOMEONE PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED. IT REALLY DOESN'T FIT THE AREA AND IT DOESN'T COMPLIMENT AT ALL. AND I FEEL THAT IT'LL BRING MORE PROBLEMS BECAUSE OF TRAFFIC, LESS ACCESSIBILITY. IF YOU'RE PARKING ON DOWN THE STREET, THAT'S POSSIBLE. THEY CAN'T SAY IT WON'T HAPPEN, AND JUST THE POTENTIAL OF A STRUCTURE LIKE THAT IN THAT AREA. I DON'T SEE IT BEING PROGRESSIVE AT ALL. SO I'M JUST JOINING MY VOICE WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION BECAUSE I WAS THERE THAT MEETING, AND I'M HERE TODAY FOR THAT REASON, TO MAKE THIS, NOT MAKE IT, BUT THIS COUNCIL CONSIDER THAT THIS AREA DOES NOT WANT THIS STRUCTURE THERE BECAUSE IT DOES NOT PROMOTE IT. IT WILL NOT MAKE IT LOOK BETTER. AND IN MY OPINION, IT'LL MAKE IT LOOK KIND OF STRANGE. YOU COME OUT YOUR DOOR AND SEE THE SIDE OF A BUILDING AND THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE BESIDE IT, THEY DON'T SHOW THEIR HOUSES PICTURES. THERE WAS A HOUSE ON THIS SIDE. THERE'S A HOUSE ON THAT SIDE.

AND WHEN THEY COME OUT ON THEIR FRONT PORCHES, THEY WILL SEE THE SIZE OF THE BUILDING.

PEOPLE LOOKING IN THEIR SIDE WINDOWS IN THEIR HOMES. SO YOU CAN'T SEE THAT FROM WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING. THAT'S WHAT THE SITUATION WOULD BE LIKE. SO I JUST LETTING IT BE KNOWN THAT I AGREE WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION, I AGREE WITH ALL THOSE THAT HAVE SPOKEN AND I DO NOT AGREE WITH BUILDING THIS STRUCTURE THERE ON WASHINGTON STREET. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY MORE HANDS? SEEING NO MORE HANDS. THIS PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED, COUNCILMAN JONES.

YES, SIR. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THE OWNER, CAN YOU COME TO THE MIC? NOW? FIRST I WANT TO SAY TO YOU AND ANYBODY ELSE IN HERE THANK YOU FOR YOUR INTEREST IN PETERSBURG. WHILE THIS IS NOT MY WARD, I CLAIM ALL SEVEN WARDS AS BEING MY SISTER AND BROTHER. WARD'S. I ALSO CLAIM.

THE PRESENT AND FUTURE OF PETERSBURG. NOW, MY QUESTION TO YOU IS WITH THIS LOT, WHAT NECESSARILY IS YOUR GOAL? BECAUSE I KNOW YOU WANT TO PUT HOUSING THERE, AND I THINK IT'S EVERYBODY'S GOAL TO MAKE MONEY WHEREVER YOU GO TO, AND YOU WANT TO MAKE MONEY OFF OF THESE DUPLEXES BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THEY ARE. THEY'RE NOT TOWNHOUSES. I DON'T EVEN HAVE A QUESTION FOR. I JUST GOT A STATEMENT FOR YOU AND THIS TO ANYBODY OUT THERE WHO THINK THEY CAN COME TO PETERSBURG AND JUST THROW ANYTHING IN HERE, I WANT YOU TO MAKE MONEY ON YOUR PROPERTY. I DO, BUT IT HAS TO BE MEANINGFUL AND BE ABLE TO MARRY THE REST OF THE

[01:25:04]

AGAIN, I WELCOME YOU, AND I'M GLAD YOU'RE HERE IN PETERSBURG, BUT I THINK YOU NEED I NEED I WY SOMETHING BEFORE YOU MAKE THE MOTION. COUNCILMAN SMITH. LEE, I'M SORRY TO BE. I MET YOU AND THE YOUNG MAN THAT YOU BOUGHT THE PROPERTY FROM. PROPERTY FROM. AND WE WE TALKED ABOUT THAT PARTICULAR LOT, BUT. WE NEVER. WE NEVER. YOU NEVER GOT BACK WITH ME IN REFERENCE TO.

THE COMPLETION OF WHAT YOUR PLAN WAS, BECAUSE MR. HILL AND I BOTH CAME OUT TO TALK TO YOU ALL TO TO LOOK AT WHAT YOU WERE GOING TO DO. AND. YOU STATED THAT YOU WANTED TO HAVE. I DON'T REMEMBER IF YOU SAID APARTMENTS OR TOWNHOUSES THAT YOU WERE GOING TO HAVE IT SO THAT WHEN YOU COME IN FROM WASHINGTON STREET, YOU'RE GOING TO DRIVE IN, AND THAT THEY WERE GOING TO BE FACING. ON WEST STREET, NORTH. RIGHT. AND WHAT. WELL, ANYWAY. TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION FROM THE PLANNING COMMITTEE, AND ALSO I THINK YOU NEED TO RECONSIDER WHAT YOU WANT TO DO WITH THAT PROPERTY BECAUSE PROPERTY IS NOT I DON'T I DON'T HOW MANY ACRES IS IT.

POINT. 4.4.4. YES. IT'S NOT A LOT. AND IF YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING WITH THAT PROPERTY, WHY NOT MAKE IT A SINGLE DWELLING HOME? YOU KNOW. BUT AS FAR AS THE TOWNHOUSES, YOU KNOW, I WANT DEVELOPMENT TO COME INTO MY WARD. BUT I WANT THINGS TO BE DONE RIGHT. AND I WANT THAT ZONING AND PLANNING WILL BUY INTO IT. SO I THINK YOU NEED TO RECONSIDER WHAT YOU WANT TO DO WITH THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY. OKAY. CAN I JUST MAKE I'D LIKE TO JUST MAKE ONE STATEMENT ACCORDING TO THAT, TO WHAT YOU SAID WHEN I FIRST ENTERED INTO THIS PROJECT AND TALKED TO THE GENTLEMAN THAT I ENDED UP BUYING THE PROPERTY FROM, HE HAD GIVEN ME ALL THESE DRAWINGS AND THE SITE LAYOUT WITH THE BUILDINGS ON IT, AND SAID THAT HE HAD ALREADY BEEN PLANNING.

THEY LIKED THE IDEA. HE HAD SPOKEN TO YOU AND TO SOME OTHER PEOPLE, AND SAID THAT THEY LIKED THE IDEA, BUT OKAY, BUT LET ME JUST FINISH, OKAY? BECAUSE I OKAY. BECAUSE I KNOW WHERE THIS IS GOING TO GO, OKAY? IT'S LIKE ANYTHING ELSE, WHEN SOMEBODY WANTS TO SELL SOMETHING, THEY'RE GOING TO FEED YOU A BILL OF GOODS. ABSOLUTELY. AND THAT'S NOW I SEE WHERE THIS WHOLE THING IS COMING FROM. SO I GOT SOLD A BILL OF GOODS. I'M A BIG BOY.

I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR A LONG, LONG TIME. BUT THE ONE THING I DO WANT TO SAY IS WHEN I WAS GIVEN SOMETHING LIKE THAT, IT'S MY INTERPRETATION TO JUST RUN ALONG WITH IT AND GO WITH IT, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THIS SEEMS TO BE THAT EVERYBODY WANTED. UNFORTUNATELY, THAT WASN'T THE CASE. OKAY, NOW I KNOW. SO NOW I GO BACK AND I SIT BACK AND I SAY TO MYSELF, DO I JUST LET THE PROPERTY SIT THERE OR DO I, WHICH, I DON'T CARE IF IT SITS THERE FOR 100 YEARS, DOESN'T MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE TO ME? OR DO I GO AHEAD AND PUT A ONE FAMILY HOUSE ON THERE? AT THIS POINT, I'M NOT GOING TO MAKE THAT DECISION. THE YOUNG MAN THAT SOLD YOU THE PROPERTY. YES, MA'AM. HE HE CAME. AND HOW WOULD YOU CAME WITH ME THE FIRST TIME SO THAT WE COULD VET AND SEE? SO HE WASN'T I MEAN, HE LIVED IN FLORIDA SOMEWHERE, AND HE STATED TO ME THAT HE

[01:30:04]

THEN THAT WAS IT. AND THEN THE NEXT TIME WE MET, IT WAS WITH YOU AND HIM AND DARREN. RIGHT.

AND SO. HE HE GAVE YOU SOME INCORRECT, YOU KNOW, INFORMATION. AND I DON'T APPRECIATE HIM SAYING THAT I APPROVE SOMETHING BECAUSE I DID NOT. SO I APPRECIATE YOU BUYING THE LAND IN MY WARD. AND LIKE I SAID, I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO RECONSIDER USING IT FOR A SINGLE DWELLING HOME. BUT AT THIS POINT, MAYOR, I WANT TO TAKE THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN REFERENCE TO NOT CONSIDER WHAT MR. ROY WANTS TO DO WITH IT.

YOU KNOW NOTHING PERSONAL AGAINST YOU, SIR. OKAY. I JUST WANT TO DO THE RIGHT THING IN MY WARD. COUNCILMAN COOPER, IF THAT'S A IS THAT A MOTION FROM. YES, MISS LEE? YES, I SECOND THE MOTION. ALL RIGHT. MOTION A SECOND. MISS, COULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL COUNCIL MEMBER CUTHBERT? AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER. JONES. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER. MEYERS. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER.

WESTBROOKS. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER. SMITH. AYE. VICE MAYOR. AYE. MAYOR. AYE. MOTION CARRIES. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. NEXT, MOVE ON TO ITEM NINE C, WHICH IS A PUBLIC HEARING FOR CONSIDERATION OF ORDINANCE TO APPROVE A REQUEST BY PEDRO ROSARIO FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO OPERATE A STANDALONE VEHICLE REPAIR SHOP AT 3857 SOUTH CRATER ROAD. PARCEL ID 101090005, IN THE B-2 GENERAL COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT. ALL RIGHT, JARED, THANK YOU SIR. SO AGAIN, THIS IS A REQUEST FOR A STANDALONE AUTO REPAIR SHOP IN THE B-2 GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT. A SPECIAL USE PERMIT IS REQUIRED. THIS IS ABOUT A 0.46 ACRE PARCEL ALONG SOUTH CRATER ROAD. THE APPLICANT IS LOOKING TO OPERATE, BUILD AND OPERATE A NEW FACILITY ON THIS PROPERTY. HE CURRENTLY OPERATES P.J. AUTO REPAIR, WHICH IS RIGHT NEXT DOOR ON THE ADJOINING PROPERTY. THE. HE'S NO LONGER AN OWNERSHIP OF THAT PROPERTY, SO THE EXISTING SHOP, IT WILL BE CLOSING, AND HIS PLAN IS TO MOVE OPERATIONS TO THIS PROPERTY YOU'RE LOOKING AT TONIGHT. SO THE APPLICATION WAS ACCOMPANIED BY A SITE PLAN SHOWING THE LAYOUT OF THE PROPERTY, ALONG WITH SOME NOTES ON COMPLYING WITH DIFFERENT RULES AND LIMITS ON THE USE. SO ON DECEMBER 4TH, WE HAD A PUBLIC HEARING WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION. SOME CONCERNS WERE RAISED. ONE WAS THE CURRENT CONDITION OF THE SITE. THERE WERE VEHICLES STORED THROUGHOUT THE SITE. ANOTHER WAS THE LACK OF LANDSCAPING SHOWN ON THE PLANS.

A NEED FOR SCREENING AND, YOU KNOW, JUST THE GENERAL GOAL OF HAVING ATTRACTIVE USES AT THE CITY'S GATEWAYS. THERE WAS ALSO SOME CONFUSION OVER THERE'S AN EXISTING BILLBOARD ON THE SITE THAT'S SUBJECT TO A THIRD PARTY LEASE. SO IT'S SORT OF ROLLED INTO THESE PLANS SUBSEQUENTLY THAT THE APPLICANT DID UPDATE THE PLANS TO SHOW SOME STREETSCAPE IMPROVEMENTS, WHICH INCLUDED SIDEWALK LANDSCAPING SCREENING ALONG THE FRONT OF THE SITE. THE EXISTING CHAIN LINK FENCE WOULD BE REPLACED BY AN ORNAMENTAL FENCE AROUND THE PERIMETER. THE APPLICANT AGAIN CLARIFIED THAT THAT BILLBOARD IS SUBJECT TO A THIRD PARTY LEASE, BUT HE WOULD BE WILLING TO REMOVE IT WHEN THAT LEASE TERMINATES IN 2028, AND THE APPLICANT DID REMOVE THE EXISTING VEHICLES FROM THE SITE OUTSIDE OF A. A SINGLE SEMI TRAILER THAT THE APPLICANT USES FOR STORAGE. BUT THIS IS JUST AN OVERVIEW OF THE LAYOUT OF THE SITE. AGAIN, IT'S A 50 BY 100 BUILDING. YOU'VE GOT PARKING SPACES. THE STREETSCAPE IMPROVEMENTS ARE SHOWN HERE.

THIS IS ONE OF THE PROPOSED ELEVATIONS. YOU SEE THE STREETSCAPE IMPROVEMENTS THAT INCLUDE THE PLANTINGS, THE, YOU KNOW, ORNAMENTAL FENCE WITH THE BRICK COLUMNS AND THEN WITH THE

[01:35:01]

THESE AREAS ARE ABOUT PROVIDING GOODS AND SERVICES FOR RESIDENTS TO ACCESS AMENITIES.

BUILDINGS ORIENTED TOWARDS THE STREET, HIGH QUALITY BUILDING MATERIALS. LAND USES ARE TYPICALLY HOSPITALITY, LARGE SCALE COMMERCIAL OFFICE AND THEN PERSONAL SERVICE USES AND SOME SMALL SCALE MANUFACTURING. AS MENTIONED, THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED NEAR A DESIGNATED GATEWAY TO THE CITY ON SOUTH CRATER ROAD, SO GATEWAYS SERVE AS THE COMMUNITY'S FRONT DOOR.

THEY ESTABLISH A FIRST IN PRESSION AND REINFORCE PERCEPTIONS ABOUT THE CITY.

CORRIDORS CAN VARY A LITTLE BIT MORE DEPENDING ON WHAT THE SURROUNDING USES ARE, BUT THE PLAN SAYS THE CITY SHOULD PRIORITIZE IMPROVING THE IMAGE AND ATTRACTIVENESS OF GATEWAYS.

SO BASED ON THE UPDATES TO THE PLANS, I SHOULD MENTION WE WE HAD A SINGLE COMMENT AT THE PUBLIC HEARING WHERE AN INDIVIDUAL SPOKE AGAINST THE REQUEST. HE DID COME BACK TO THAT SUBSEQUENT MEETING AFTER SEEING THE UPDATES TO THE PLAN, AND SAID HE WAS THEN IN SUPPORT OF IT. SO BASED ON THE IMPROVEMENTS SHOWN, THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL AND A 5 TO 0 VOTE. THEY DID RECOMMEND THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS. THAT THE SITE BE DEVELOPED IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE APPLICATION AND THE SITE PLAN.

THAT THOSE PROPOSED STREET IMPROVEMENTS WOULD BE PUT IN PLACE BEFORE THE BUILDING IS OCCUPIED. A PLAN FOR ADDITIONAL PLANTINGS ALONG THE PERIMETER OF THE SITE, SO NOT JUST THE STREET FRONTAGE. KEEPING THE PROPERTY IN A CLEAN, ORDERLY MANNER. NO LONG TERM VEHICLE STORAGE. THE SITE SHALL NOT OPERATE AS A TOW LOT. THE VEHICLES WON'T BE STORED FOR MORE THAN 14 DAYS UNLESS THEY'RE ACTIVELY BEING REPAIRED. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE, KIND OF TRACKING HOW LONG THE VEHICLES ARE ON THE SITE TO MAKE SURE IT'S NOT BECOMING A STORAGE YARD. THE EXISTING BILLBOARD WOULD BE REMOVED WHEN THAT CURRENT LEASE EXPIRES. THE PARKING WOULD BE INSTALLED IN ACCORDANCE WITH OUR REGULATIONS. IF THEY EVENTUALLY PLAN TO PUT AN ENTRANCE ONTO ORCHARD AVENUE, WHICH IS CURRENTLY AN UNIMPROVED RIGHT OF WAY, THEY WOULD NEED TO BUILD IT TO DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS STANDARDS. ANY NEW OWNER WOULD NEED TO CERTIFY THAT THEY'RE RETAINING THE SAME USE, OTHERWISE A NEW SPECIAL USE PERMIT WOULD BE REQUIRED. AND FINALLY, THE PERMIT COULD BE REVOKED FOR FAILURE TO ABIDE BY THE CONDITIONS OR ANY OTHER LAWS. AND I THANK YOU, AND I'M NOT SURE IF THE APPLICANTS PRESENT, BUT I'M HAPPY TO CLARIFY ANYTHING ON MY END. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, JARED. I'M OPEN TO THE FLOOR NOW FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR CONSIDERATION OF THE ORDINANCE TO APPROVE A REQUEST BY PEDRO ROSARIO FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO OPERATE A STANDALONE VEHICLE REPAIR SHOP AT 3857 SOUTH CRATER ROAD. YES, MR. TALLEY, GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR. MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, I'M WILLIAM H. TALLEY, THE FOURTH. I'M THE MANAGER OF MEMBER OF PROPERTIES LLC AT 3905 SOUTH CRATER ROAD THAT OWNS THE FOUR ACRES ADJACENT TO MY NEW NEIGHBOR THAT'S BEING PROPOSED. I GUESS I WAS THE LONE PERSON TO SHOW UP. I'VE BEEN AT THE ALL THE HEARINGS IN THIS, BUT I WANT TO ENDORSE ON THE RENDERINGS THAT HAVE BEEN PRESENTED AND THE CONDITIONS HAVE BEEN MADE. WE THINK THIS WILL BE A GREAT ENTRYWAY TO THE CITY FROM THAT. SO I JUST SUPPORT THIS ON MR. ROSARIO'S PETITION, SIR. OKAY. THANK YOU, MISS SALLY. SEEING NO MORE HANDS, THIS PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED. COUNCILMAN JONES.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. MR. JARRETT. WHEN YOU SAY THAT. THIS PROPOSAL, IT LOOKS BETTER AND WILL LOOK BETTER THAN WHAT'S ALREADY THERE, WOULD YOU SAY THAT? YEAH, I THINK I THINK WITH THE STREETSCAPE IMPROVEMENTS, YOU KNOW, ADMITTEDLY THE THE VEHICLE REPAIR USE ISN'T I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT THE APPEARANCE, THE APPEARANCE, TALKING ABOUT THE GATEWAY IN THE FRONT DOOR AND ALL OF THAT STUFF. RIGHT. SO I'M GLAD YOU SAID SOMETHING ABOUT STREETSCAPE BECAUSE YOU SAID SOMETHING ABOUT IN THE CONDITIONS ABOUT PLANTINGS. NOW,

[01:40:07]

SEVERAL VAPE STORES. BUT YES, THANK YOU SO MUCH. SO WHEN THE MOTION IS MADE, MR. MAYOR, MR. VICE MAYOR, THOSE ARE THE TWO CONDITIONS I WOULD LIKE STRUCK FROM FROM THE MR. O YOU MIGHT HAVE HAD SOME AGAINST THE BILLBOARD, I GUESS THE BILLBOARD. I'D BE GLAD. I THINK IT'D BE GOOD TO BE GONE, I'LL TELL YOU. BUT THAT DOESN'T BOTHER ME. THERE'S A RESIDENTIAL HOME THAT RUNS BY THE SIDE OF THAT PROPERTY BEHIND THERE, AND THE LANDSCAPING WAS TO BUFFER THE GARAGE TO THEM. THAT'S MY ONLY POINT ABOUT THE LANDSCAPING.

OKAY, ON THAT PIECE OF IT. THANK YOU FOR EXPLAINING THAT. YES, SIR. APPRECIATE IT. BUT ON THE BILLBOARD, I THINK IT SHOULD GO, QUITE FRANKLY. BUT THAT'S THAT'S MY PARTICULAR PREFERENCE. BUT ANYWAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU, MISS TAYLOR, FOR BUFFERING. ALL RIGHT. I'M GOOD. I'M GREAT. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. GO TO VICE MAYOR HILL. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE ORDINANCE TO THE REQUEST BY PEDRO ROSSELLO FOR THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT, OPERATING A STANDALONE VEHICLE REPAIR SHOP AT 3857 SOUTH CRATER ROAD, PARCEL NUMBER ID 101090005, AND THE B-2 GENERAL COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT. ALL RIGHT, COUNCILMAN MYERS SECOND. MOTION AND SECOND DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION. YES, MR. VICE MAYOR, CAN YOU. AGREE WITH ME ON ON THE BILLBOARD REMOVAL? I DON'T SEE WHERE THAT'S A PROBLEM AT THE TREES. I UNDERSTAND THAT BECAUSE HE EXPLAINED AS A BUFFER. THAT'S FINE. I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT THE TREES. I KNOW YOU HATE BILLBOARDS, BUT THAT'S WHY PEOPLE GET. I MEAN, BECAUSE WE ALREADY MADE A SIGN. I MEAN, TYPICALLY WHEN YOU COME INTO A GATEWAY, THERE'S EITHER TREES OR SOME TYPE OF BILLBOARD ADVERTISING THE CITY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT. SO YOU CAN PUT THAT IN THE MOTION AS WELL. THANK YOU. AND JUST AS CLARIFICATION, THAT'S WITH ALL CONDITIONS AMENDED WITH THE ONE AMENDMENT THAT COUNCILMAN JONES HAS PROPOSED, NUMBER SEVEN. YES, YES. ALL AMENDMENTS WITH THE CONDITION OF THE BILLBOARD. ALL RIGHT. MOTION. COUNCILMAN MYERS, YOU OKAY WITH THAT? YES. ALL RIGHT. THE MOTION IS SECOND AT THIS TIME IS HERE. COULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL COUNCIL MEMBER CUTHBERT? AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER. JONES. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER. MYERS. COUNCIL MEMBER. WESTBROOK. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER.

SMITH. LEE. HI. VICE MAYOR. HILL. AYE. MAYOR. AYE AYE. MOTION CARRIES. NEXT, MOVE ON TO ITEM NINE D, WHICH IS A PUBLIC HEARING FOR CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE TO APPROVE A REQUEST BY DANTE THREE ON BEHALF OF SUITE INVESTMENTS, VIRGINIA, LLC, FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO OPERATE A NIGHTCLUB AT 2793 SOUTH CRATER ROAD, PARCEL ID 065110004, IN THE B-2 GENERAL COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT. ALL RIGHT, JARED, THANK YOU SIR. SO THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, IT'S ALONG THE SOUTH CRATER CORRIDOR. IT IS A DEVELOPED PROPERTY. THE.

IT'S 5.4 ACRES. SO THE APPLICANT IS LOOKING TO OPERATE A NIGHTCLUB IN THE EXISTING.

IT'S THE LARGEST STRUCTURE. IT'S ABOUT 45,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING ON THE PROPERTY. THE PARKING AREA IS EXISTING. YOU ALL WILL RECALL THAT WE UPDATED OUR REGULATIONS FOR NIGHTCLUBS ABOUT A YEAR AGO, AND SPECIAL USE PERMITS ARE REQUIRED FOR THAT USE. AND THE B-2 DISTRICT.

SO IF APPROVED THE FACILITY, IT'S SUBJECT TO SOME AUTOMATIC CONDITIONS THAT COME STRAIGHT OUT OF THE ORDINANCE AS WELL AS, YOU KNOW, AN AUTOMATIC REVIEW AND THEN ADHERENCE TO THEIR

[01:45:05]

THERE ARE A RANGE OF USES SURROUNDING THE PROPERTY THAT INCLUDE OFFICE USES, CHURCHES, RETAIL AND THEN TO THE REAR OR SORT OF THE NORTHEAST OF THE PROPERTY. IT'S A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT, BUT THOSE ARE THE JESSE LEE APARTMENTS TO THE REAR. SO WE HELD A PUBLIC HEARING ON DECEMBER 4TH FOR THIS REQUEST. THERE WERE FOUR COMMENTS RECEIVED AT THAT MEETING, AND THEN AT SIX ADDITIONAL COMMENTS WERE RECEIVED, AS WELL AS FOUR COMMENTS IN FAVOR OF THE REQUEST AT THE FOLLOWING MEETING WHERE THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAD AN ADDITIONAL PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. SO THERE WERE A NUMBER OF CONCERNS RAISED, NAMELY ISSUES WITH THE EXISTING THE ELITE HORSEMEN CLUB, WHICH IS ALREADY OPERATING ON THE PROPERTY, CONCERNS ABOUT LITTERING, PARKING SPILLOVER AND CONFLICTS, ILLEGAL ACTIVITY. POTENTIAL CONFLICT, JUST INCOMPATIBILITY OF USES. SO PARTICULARLY THE CHURCHES, ONE OF WHICH SHARES THE PARKING LOT, ANOTHER JUST ACROSS THE PARKING LOT, AS WELL AS THE APARTMENTS TO THE REAR. QUESTIONS ON IF THERE'S ENOUGH PARKING, IF BOTH CLUBS ARE OPERATING AT THE SAME TIME. AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAD ALSO ASKED THAT THE APPLICANT WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORS TO SEE IF THERE WERE ANY COMPROMISES THAT COULD BE FOUND. SO ON THE OTHER, ON THE FLIP SIDE, THERE WERE COMMENTS IN FAVOR OF THE REQUEST, NOTING THE NEED FOR ENTERTAINMENT VENUES WITHIN THE CITY. THE APPLICANT DOES HAVE A FOCUS ON AN OLDER, MORE CALM CLIENTELE IN THE PLANS. THEY WERE THOROUGH PLANS PROVIDED FOR THE MANAGEMENT AND THE SECURITY ON THE PROPERTY. SO THIS IS DESIGNATED CORRIDOR COMMERCIAL ON THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP. SO AGAIN, THAT'S PROVIDING GOODS AND SERVICES, ENTERTAINMENT AND EVENT VENUES ARE LISTED AS PRIMARY LAND USES IN ADDITION TO COMMERCIAL, HOSPITALITY AND PERSONAL SERVICE USES, THE PROPERTY IS ALSO LOCATED ALONG A DESIGNATED CORRIDOR, WHICH IS A DEFINED PLACE THAT SHOULD BE MANAGED AND MAXIMIZE POTENTIAL TO INVITE VISITORS IN AND WELCOME THEM TO STAY, AND THEN IN THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT. FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, ENTERTAINMENT USES WERE LISTED AMONG THE MOST DESIRED NONRESIDENTIAL LAND USES THROUGHOUT THE CITY. SO WE HAD PROVIDED CONDITIONS FOR CONSIDERATION THAT THE PLANNING

[01:50:06]

MAINTAINING AN ACTIVE BUSINESS LICENSE, REMAINING CURRENT ON FOOD AND BEVERAGE TAXES, PERSONAL PROPERTY TAXES. A REQUIREMENT THAT THEY COMPLY WITH THE MANAGEMENT PROGRAM THAT INCLUDES THE FLOOR PLAN AND THE SECURITY AND CROWD MANAGEMENT PLAN. THE SOUNDPROOFING MEASURES TO MINIMIZE NOISE WITHIN THE ESTABLISHMENT AND IN THE SURROUNDING AREAS. ANY NEW OWNER WOULD NEED TO CERTIFY THAT THE THEY WOULD BE UNDERTAKING THE SAME OR ALIKE ENDEAVOR. THE PROPERTY SHOULD BE KEPT IN A CLEAN, ORDERLY MANNER AND SPECIFICALLY, THE PARKING LOT SHOULD BE CLEARED OF LITTER AND DEBRIS FOLLOWING EACH NIGHT OF OPERATION. REPEATED SUBSTANTIATED COMPLAINTS COULD RESULT IN REVIEW OF THE PERMIT. THE PERMIT WOULD BE SUBJECT TO AN AUTOMATIC REVIEW TWO YEARS AFTER APPROVAL, TO CHECK AGAINST COMPLIANCE WITH THE CONDITIONS, AND THE PERMIT COULD BE REVOKED FOR FAILURE TO COMPLY WITH THOSE CONDITIONS. SO THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED DENIAL OF THE PERMIT AND A 4 TO 1 VOTE. THEY FOUND THAT THE PROPOSED USE WOULD RESULT IN ADVERSE IMPACTS TO THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES. SO NAMELY, THERE WERE THE CONCERNS OVER THE CONFLICT FOR PARKING NEEDS, POTENTIAL NOISE LEVELS, AND IMPACTS TO THE NEIGHBORING CHURCHES AND RESIDENTS. ADDITIONAL DEMANDS ON LAW ENFORCEMENT. IF THERE WERE ADDITIONAL CALLS BASED ON THE OPERATION, AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION NOTED THAT THEY HAD ASKED THE APPLICANT TO COORDINATE WITH NEIGHBORS TO FIND SOLUTIONS TO THOSE PROBLEMS, AND THAT AGREEMENT WASN'T REACHED. SO I WILL TURN IT OVER TO YOU ALL, BUT I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. THIS IS THE PUBLIC HEARING NOW FOR CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE TO APPROVE A REQUEST BY DANTE THREATT ON BEHALF OF SWEET INVESTMENTS, VIRGINIA, LLC, FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO OPERATE A NIGHTCLUB AT 2793 SOUTH CRATER ROAD. YES, SIR.

GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS CARL PULLIAM. I'M REPRESENTING THE ELITE HORSEMEN, AND WE. I'M HERE TO VOTE AGAINST. APPROVING THIS. WE'VE BEEN IN THE CITY CHARTER IN THE CITY FOR 52 YEARS. OUR OLD RESIDENCE WAS TEN NORTH UNION STREET. WE MOVED TO 2793 SOUTH CRATER ROAD AND 2011. WE'VE BEEN THERE ABOUT 15 YEARS. WE HAVE A NIGHTCLUB BUSINESS THERE.

WE OPEN ON SATURDAYS FROM 10 TO 2. WE OPEN ON SUNDAYS FROM 8 TO 12. ON FIRST FRIDAY OF EACH MONTH. WE'RE OPEN FROM 10 TO 2. I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH WHAT THEY WANT TO DO, BUT OUR BIGGEST PROBLEM IS PARKING. IT'S LIMITED. WE HAVE ANYWHERE FROM 100 TO 125 PER NIGHT. WHEN WE OPEN. AND I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THERE ALWAYS ARE, BUT IF WE ARE BOTH OPEN, SOMEBODY GO FAIL. WE CANNOT GET OUR OUR CLIENTELE INTO THIS BUSINESS WITH THE AMOUNT OF PARKING WE HAVE, WE HAVE WE HAVE A GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH THE CHURCHES. WHEN THEY'RE HAVING SERVICE, WE ARE CLOSED AND WHEN THEY'RE CLOSED, WE YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WE DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH EACH OTHER. BUT. OUR LANDLORD, HE DOESN'T SEEM TO CARE IF HE COULD CONFLICT, HAVE THIS CONFLICT WITH OUR BUSINESS IN THIS NEW BUSINESS. SO LIKE I SAID, WE'VE BEEN OPERATING IN PETERSBURG FOR ABOUT 52 YEARS CHARTERED. SO WE SAY, NO, THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. OVER HERE. GOOD EVENING. MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, COUNCIL

[01:55:06]

WHEN I THINK ABOUT COMING TO PETERSBURG, I WANT SOMETHING TO DO. I'M AN OLDER MAN THAT'S 47 YEARS OLD. THERE HAVE BEEN PLENTY OF WEEKENDS THAT I'VE SAID, MAN, I WISH I COULD HAVE SOME WHOLESOME ENTERTAINMENT AND SOMETHING FUN TO DO AND TO HEAR THE OBJECTIONS THAT ARE BEING PRESENTED BY SOME OF THE INDIVIDUALS IN THIS CITY. IS IS DISHEARTENING BECAUSE, FOR ONE, THE HORSEMEN SHOULD BE A MEMBERSHIP ESTABLISHMENT, SO THEY SHOULD HAVE A ALREADY PREDETERMINED NUMBER OF SPACES THAT THEY KNOW THEY NEED FOR THEIR EVENTS. THEY DON'T HAVE A RANDOM NUMBER OF PEOPLE SHOW UP FOR THEIR EVENTS, AND THE CHURCH THAT'S CONDUCTING ITS GREAT MINISTRY IN THIS CITY IS NOT GOING TO BE OPEN. AT THE SAME TIME THAT THE LOUNGE WILL BE OPEN. SO THESE OBJECTIONS THAT ARE BEING PRESENTED REALLY SOUND LIKE A LOT OF HATE. WHAT I SEE IS A YOUNG INDIVIDUAL, A YOUNG PROPRIETOR IN THE CITY OF PETERSBURG THAT YOU ALL SHOULD BE GLAD TO HAVE AS A RESIDENT THAT WANTS TO HELP OUT IN THE CITY. THAT'S MEETING A LOT OF OBJECTION FROM PEOPLE WHO ARE PRESENTING THINGS THAT ARE NOT TRUE. THE CHURCH SHOULD NOT BE FEARFUL OF OPPORTUNITY. WHAT THE LOUNGE PRESENTS AS IT'S BEEN PRESENTED AS A NIGHTCLUB, IS ACTUALLY A VENUE IN AN OUTLET. THERE ARE MANY ARTISTS AND CREATIVE INDIVIDUALS IN THE CITY OF PETERSBURG THAT DON'T HAVE AN OUTLET. SO ALL THAT VIOLENCE THAT Y'ALL WORRIED ABOUT AT JESSE LEE AND ALL THEM APARTMENTS, GIVE THEM AN OUTLET. GIVE THEM SOMEWHERE WHERE THEY CAN COME AND ENTERTAIN THE PUBLIC. WE HAVE THE NEXT ARETHA FRANKLIN HERE. WE HAVE THE NEXT MICHAEL JACKSON HERE WE HAVE THE NEXT STEVIE WONDER HERE. BUT IF INDIVIDUALS MOVE FORWARD IN FEAR, WE'LL NEVER DISCOVER THEM. SO I'M HERE TO SAY THAT WE SHOULD HAVE AN ORGANIZATION, A LOUNGE SUCH AS ROYALTY IN THE CITY OF PETERSBURG, AND ALL THE FEAR THAT'S BEEN PRESENTED TODAY AND ALL THE FALSE PREDICTIONS THAT THAT MAN JUST STOOD UP HERE AND PRESENTED WITH THE HORSEMEN CLUB. I KNOW THAT MR. THREE HAS TRIED TO WORK WITH THESE INDIVIDUALS, AND HE HAS REACHED NOTHING BUT HATE AND ANIMOSITY. THEY HAVE LIED TO HIM AND TOLD HIM THAT THEY WANT TO WORK WITH HIM AND THEY HAVE NOT EVEN SPOKEN TO HIM, WON'T EVEN LOOK HIM IN THE EYE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. YES, MA'AM. HELLO MAYOR AND COUNCILMAN WOMEN. MY NAME IS JOYCE VINCENT, 1608 KINGS ROAD. MY CHURCH IS LOCATED AT 2787 SOUTH CRADLE ROAD. FIRST THERE WAS ALREADY A PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING WHERE THE COMMISSION VOTED TO DENY THE PROPOSAL. THE MATTERS THAT MATTERS, THAT TELLS US THAT THERE WERE LEGITIMATE

[02:00:02]

AND THAT WAS THE DETERMINING FACTOR OF THE TABLING OF THE VOTE IN DECEMBER, THE FOURTH MEETING. HE WAS SPECIFICALLY GIVEN GUIDANCE BY ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS COMMISSIONERS TO REACH OUT TO THE OCCUPANTS AND HEAR WHAT WE HAD TO SAY, COME TO THE TABLE, LET'S TALK ABOUT IT. AND AS FAR AS HATE, I HAVE, NO, I APPRECIATE HIM WANTING TO COME AND EXPAND AND BUILD. I'M ALL FOR ENTREPRENEURSHIP. I'M ALL FOR DEVELOPMENT IN PETERSBURG. WHAT I'M NOT FOR IS NOT COMMUNICATING AND NOT ABIDING BY WHAT WAS ASKED SO THAT HE COULD AND BE LOOKED IN THE EYE AND BE EXPRESSED. HEY, WE HAVE SOME IDEAS TOO WITH THE PARTNERSHIP. OKAY? ALL I DID WAS CHANGE PARTNERS. I LIKE TO DANCE OKAY, BUT HE COULD HAVE A JAZZ NIGHT WITH CHRISTIAN ARTISTS, THINGS LIKE THAT. THERE'S WORKABLE SOLUTIONS THAT WE CAN WORK HOWEVER COMMA IN THAT LOCATION. RIGHT IDEA, WRONG LOCATION. THERE ARE OTHER LOCATIONS FURTHER DOWN. THANK YOU. THERE'S OTHER LOCATIONS FURTHER DOWN, LIKE SAVE-A-LOT, LIKE BESIDE BUTTERWORTH. AND THE LAST THING I WOULD SAY IS THAT THERE ARE OTHER PROJECTS, EVEN WITH COUNCILMAN MARLO JONES HAD HIS SKATE LAND AND SINCE HE IS MR. THREE DOES A LOT FOR THE COMMUNITY AND A LOT FOR DIFFERENT SCHOOLS AND DONATING TO METROPOLITAN AND ALL THAT GOOD STUFF, WHERE WAS THE DONATION OF HIS SPRINT VAN TO GET SOME OF THOSE JESSE LEE YOUTH KIDS TO COME TO THAT SKATE LAND THAT WAS THERE WHEN FRIDAY AFTER FRIDAY, THERE WAS EMPTY. THERE WAS EMPTINESS THERE. IT WAS OUR CHURCH COMING OVER THERE WITH OUR YOUTH AT ONE TIME TO COME OVER THERE. WE EVEN FED YOU. DON'T SHAKE YOUR HEAD MR. THANK YOU SIR, THANK YOU SIR. OKAY, SO WE'RE NOT DEBATING EACH OTHER OKAY. Y'ALL ALL RIGHT. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I WOULD ASK THAT BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT MISTER COUNCILMAN JONES ALSO OWNED THAT PLACE AT ONE TIME. NOT SURE WHAT YOUR RELATIONSHIP IS, BUT IF YOU CAN'T NOT STRADDLE THE FENCE AND ANYONE ELSE THAT CANNOT STRADDLE THE FENCE AND PUT ASIDE THESE RELATIONSHIPS AND THINK ABOUT THE COMMUNITY AND WHAT'S BEST FOR THE COMMUNITY THERE, WHY NOT A STEM LOCATION, RIGHT? WHY NOT A ACTIVITY CENTER FOR THE YOUTH OR A GLOBAL ACTIVITY, A NATIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD ACTIVITY CENTER? LIKE MISTER BARKSDALE SAID ABOUT THE CASINO COULD USE AS A TRAINING DEVELOPMENT. WHY NOT PARTNERSHIP WITH WITH OTHER WITH OTHER BUSINESSES IN THERE FOR THAT LOCATION OTHER THAN A NIGHTCLUB? OKAY. AND I BELIEVE THE NIGHTCLUB WOULD BE BETTER SUITED. IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PROFIT AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT DEVELOPMENT AND WHAT TO DO IN THE CITY OF PETERSBURG AS A 40, I DIGRESS. THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS TO DO IN THE CITY OF PETERSBURG, A WHOLE LOT.

THERE'S A LOT OF ENTERTAINMENT AS WELL. AND THEN JUST TO THINK ABOUT IT, THE LIVE CASINO WILL BE DOING MORE DEVELOPMENT ON THEIR PROPERTY, WHERE AGAIN, AS I END, BECAUSE I THINK I GOT TIME RIGHT. SO AS I END AGAIN, THEIR DEVELOPMENT WILL BE HAVING THOSE TYPES OF THINGS THAT SOME OF THE PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE ARE LOOKING FOR. AND I WOULD JUST SAY, PLEASE CONSIDER MOVING THE LOCATION. GOOD IDEA, WRONG LOCATION. AND THEN ALSO. COUNCILMAN JONES. I ASK YOU, SIR, THAT IF YOU CANNOT BE IMPARTIAL AND THINK ABOUT YOUR PASSION FOR YOUR COMMUNITY AND LIKE YOU SAID EARLIER, THE CITY OF PETERSBURG, YOU CLAIM ALL THE WARDS. SO WHEN YOU CLAIM WARD TWO, THINK ABOUT JESSE LEE APARTMENTS. I TALKED TO 68 INDIVIDUAL APARTMENTS. IN THOSE 68 APARTMENTS, THERE WERE 17 FAMILIES. AND AND HIS ESTABLISHMENT. HE RAISED THE QUESTION THAT HE WANTED IT FOR 35 AND UP. THAT WASN'T IN THAT HOUSEHOLD. THOSE WERE YOUNG KIDS. AND THEN YOU HAVE QUAIL OAKS ON THE SIDE. OKAY. AND THEN ACROSS YOU HAVE MILLS CREEK, AND THEN FURTHER DOWN YOU HAVE THE ELDERLY DEVELOPMENT. I FORGOT THE NAME OF THAT. THINK ABOUT THOSE. OKAY. THANK YOU SIR. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR. AND TO THE COUNCILMAN, I AM MAXINE WILSON, AND I AM THE

[02:05:03]

GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS TERRELL AND I VOLUNTEER COACH FOOTBALL FOR THE YOUTH IN PETERSBURG. I AM FOUR STATE. STATE. YOUR ADDRESS FOR ME. JUST FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.

1822 BOGIES DRIVE, PETERSBURG, VIRGINIA. THANK YOU. I AM FOR THE PETERSBURG LOUNGE. FOR ONE.

THEY WAS TALKING ABOUT PARKING BEING AN ISSUE, BUT AS I REMEMBER IT WAS FOOD LION FIRST AND THE PARKING WAS FOR FOOD LION AND THE SURROUNDING, YOU KNOW, BUSINESSES AROUND IT HAD TO GET IN WHERE THEY FIT IN BECAUSE IT WAS FOR FOOD LION. I DON'T SEE IT A PROBLEM BEING A CLUB AWAY FROM THE CASINO OR NEAR THE CHURCHES, OTHER CLUBS IS MOTIONS ON CREDIT ROAD. IT'S ALSO. WHAT? WHAT IS THE HORSEMEN? THE HORSEMEN. AND AND AND AND IT'S A THOUSAND THINGS THAT YOU CAN BRING UP TO DENY A CLUB. THERE'S A THOUSAND REASONS THAT Y'ALL CAN HAVE TO DENY CLUB. AND TO THINK OF SHARING A PARKING LOT AND NOT COMMUNICATING FACE TO FACE WITH THE NEIGHBORS IS THE ISSUE THAT WE'RE HAVING TO STOP THIS, I THINK. I DON'T AGREE WITH IT, I'M FOR IT. AND IF WE WERE TRYING TO MAKE A BETTER PETERSBURG WITH THE CASINO COMING, A NICE LUXURY LOUNGE, IT'S PROGRESS AND WE ALL FOR PROGRESS. BROTHER MARLOWE SAID.

THE WARS ARE YOUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS. YOU CLAIM ALL OF THEM. YOU'RE FOR THE PRESENCE AND THE FUTURE WHERE THIS LUXURY LOUNGE IS THE FUTURE. AND I WILL ALSO LIKE TO, YOU KNOW. SHE SPOKE ON WHERE WAS ROYALTY LOUNGE TRANSPORTATION TO TAKE PEOPLE BACK AND FORTH. NONE OF THAT IS THE ISSUE HERE, NONE OF THAT. SO YOU CAN THROW ALL THE ROCKS AND STONES. YOU MAY, BUT LET'S STICK TO THE SITUATION AT HAND. AND I'M FOR THE CLUB. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. GREETINGS. MY NAME IS ALAN RONEY AND I'M GOING TO START BY SAYING I'M FOR THE CLUB. MR. ROMNEY, COULD YOU STATE YOUR ADDRESS FOR ME? 19234 TURKEY EGG ROAD, DINWIDDIE, VIRGINIA. YOU HAVE TO HAVE A YOU HAVE TO HAVE A PETERSBURG. PETERSBURG RESIDENCE. OKAY. LET ME SAY I LIVE. WE GO OKAY. SO HI EVERYONE. MY NAME IS TERESA STEELE. I'M NEW TO PETERSBURG AND MY ADDRESS IS 1715 ANN STREET. I'M A NEW RESIDENT OF PETERSBURG AND I LOVE PETERSBURG. I WOULD LIKE TO BE THE NEW, I WANT TO SAY THE NEW FACE OF PETERSBURG, BECAUSE I WANT PETERSBURG TO BE SO AMAZING, SO BEAUTIFUL. AND WE BUILDING IT UP LIKE THE MAYOR HAS BEEN DOING. WE BUILD 46 HOUSES, MR. MYERS. WE BUILD MORE HOUSES. MR. DANTE BEEN MY BOSS FOR TWO YEARS. AND I'M GOING TO SAY HE'S VERY PROFESSIONAL. HE'S DOING SO MUCH IN THE COMMUNITY. I DON'T KNOW WHY Y'ALL KEEP SAYING CLUB. IT'S NOT A CLUB, IT'S AN EXPERIENCE. IT'S A LOUNGE. WE DO NOT HAVE A LOUNGE OR EXPERIENCE IN PETERSBURG. WE HAVE TO GO TO RICHMOND. WHEN THEY DID SAY 30 AND UP, NOT 35, 30 AND UP, AND PEOPLE FROM THE CHURCH MEMBERS CITY COUNCIL, DON'T Y'ALL WANT TO HAVE FUN AND PARTY? BECAUSE I KNOW Y'ALL

[02:10:02]

THEY'RE GOING TO COME TO THE CASINO. THEY'RE GOING TO COME TO SOME OF THE REALEST. THEY'RE GOING TO NEED AIRBNBS. IT'S ALL ABOUT COMING TOGETHER AS A COMMUNITY. SO THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO SAY. AND I REALLY THINK WE SHOULD DO THE LOUNGE FOR EXPERIENCE, NOT A CLUB. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. BY. HI. GOOD EVENING. I'M A LITTLE NERVOUS. HI. I'M TAMARA WYCHE AND I LIVE IN JESSIE LEE, SO I AM, WHAT, 40 SOMETHING YEARS OLD. AND I STILL ENJOY GOING OUT AND MINGLING. AND PETERSBURG. WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF NIGHTLIFE FOR THIS CITY MY AGE. YOU GET WHAT I'M SAYING. SO I HAVE GONE TO A LITTLE PLACES, BUT NO, NONE OF MY AGE THAT I CAN RELAX AND LOUNGE. AND WITH THE EXPERIENCE WITH ROYALTY AND I DON'T FEEL LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE A PROBLEM WITH TRAFFIC GETTING OUT. BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHY? BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN OVER THERE AT THAT TIME OF NIGHT. I'VE BEEN IN THAT AREA. I'VE. I HEAR IT ALL. I'M OUTSIDE AT 1:00, 2:00 IN THE MORNING. SO YES, IT'S GOING TO BRING REVENUE TO THE CITY. IT'S GOING TO BRING WORKERS. IT'S GOING TO ADD IT'S GOING TO IT'S GOING TO BUILD UP THE AREA. I'M A RESIDENT OF PETERSBURG. I AM BORN AND RAISED IN PETERSBURG, AND I HAVE TRAVELED OUT TO OTHER CITIES AND OTHER CITIES, HAVE MAJOR NIGHTCLUBS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. PETERSBURG. CAN I HAVE IT? WHEN IS THE LAST TIME? WE REALLY HAD A VERY NICE LOUNGE IN PETERSBURG. NAME ONE, NAME ONE, NAME ONE, NAME ONE. WHEN IS THE LAST TIME WE HAD ANY ENTERTAINMENT? I DON'T WANT TO GO TO LIAISON. YOU KNOW WHY? BECAUSE THERE ARE 21 AND OVER.

WHAT? I LOOK LIKE PARTYING WITH SOME 21 AND OVER. I'M 40. I MIGHT BE. I DON'T KNOW HOW OLD I AM, BUT I DON'T WANT TO PARTY WITH THEM. WHERE ELSE AM I GOING TO GO? YES, I HAVE VISITED THE HORSEMEN. I'M TIRED OF GOING TO THE HORSEMEN BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHY? IT'S REALLY HOT IN THERE. IT'S VERY HOT IN THERE. I DON'T WANT TO GO TO THE CASINO RIGHT NOW. I'M NOT A GAMBLER AND I DON'T WANT TO SMELL LIKE CIGARETTES ALL NIGHT LONG. SO I WOULD RATHER GO TO THE LOUNGE AND RELAX AND EAT GOOD AND JUST ENJOY THE COMPANY OF MY FRIENDS. I DON'T WANT TO GO TO TILTED KILT TO A RESTAURANT IN COLONIAL HEIGHTS. I'D RATHER SPEND MY MONEY HERE.

I SHOP IN PETERSBURG, I GO TO WALMART, I GO TO FOOD LION. I CAN GO TO DIFFERENT AREAS, BUT I SPEND MY MONEY HERE. I WORK FOR NINE EIGHT. I AM A MENTAL HEALTH DISPATCH. I WORK IN THIS COMMUNITY DAY IN AND DAY, NIGHT AND DAY I, I AM PETERSBURG. WHY NOT HAVE ROYALTY LOUNGE? WHY? BECAUSE I'M FOR IT AND I'M OUT. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. KENNY WILLIAMS, 1832 BOGIE'S DRIVE. AS A RESIDENT OF PETERSBURG AND A OLDER RESIDENTS OF PETERSBURG, I'M IN MY 50S. THERE ARE REALLY NO SPOTS TO GO TO THAT HAVE LIVE ENTERTAINMENT, AND I KEEP HEARING PEOPLE SAY IT'S GOING TO BE A CLUB, BUT FROM MY UNDERSTANDING IT'S MORE GOING TO BE AS LIKE A LOUNGE TYPE WHERE YOU CAN GO, YOU CAN RELAX AND THEY'LL BE BRINGING PEOPLE IN, ARTISTS AND STUFF THAT YOU KNOW WOULD HELP BOOST THE CITY. AND I HEARD ONE OTHER PERSON SAY THAT THEY HAVE LIKE LOCAL ARTISTS AND STUFF. IT WOULD BE A WAY TO SHINE ON THE PEOPLE IN PETERSBURG, BRINGING REVENUE TO THE CITY OF PETERSBURG. AND JUST LIKE THE PREVIOUS YOUNG LADY SAID, I DO NOT BELIEVE WE HAVE A LOUNGE IN PETERSBURG. I KNOW WE HAVE A LOT OF LITTLE CLUBS, BUT WE DON'T HAVE A LOUNGE, UPSCALE PLACE FOR OLD FOLKS LIKE US TO GO TO. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. BARBARA COLEMAN, 1824 POWHATAN AVENUE. I HAVE BEEN IN PETERSBURG FOR SIX YEARS. I AM FROM D.C. AND NORTHERN VIRGINIA AND MARYLAND.

I HAVE ALWAYS RETURNED BACK THERE FOR ENTERTAINMENT AND MET FAMILY MEMBERS AS FAR AS TEXAS AND CALIFORNIA TO SHOW THEM A GOOD TIME AWAY FROM PETERSBURG. I LOVE PETERSBURG, I MISS HAVING ENTERTAINMENT HERE. I DO NOT LIKE TRAVELING AWAY FROM HERE AND TAKING REVENUE FROM

[02:15:03]

I'VE BEEN IN DIFFERENT STATES. I'VE BEEN OUT OF THE COUNTRY TO DIFFERENT LOCATIONS. AND THE SECURITY IS NOT JUST INSIDE THE CLUB. IT NEEDS TO BE OUTSIDE THE CLUB. CAMERA RECOGNITION, POLICE PRESENCE AND THOSE THAT MAY NOT BE STRICTLY LAW ENFORCEMENT TO AT LEAST BE SECURITY THAT ARE ABLE TO CARRY A FIREARM. SO THOSE THINGS I WOULD LIKE TO SEE PUT IN PLACE BEFORE WE JUST SAY NO. BUT THE WORDING THAT I SAW AND THE LACK OF IMAGINATION IN THE PHOTOS, IT LEADS ME TO KEEP GUESSING. WILL THIS JUST BE SOMETHING THROWN TOGETHER AND WHAT IS THE COST TO GET IN? IF IT'S 25, YOU'RE GOING TO DETER SOME, BUT THEN ARE THEY GOING TO HANG OUT OUTSIDE? IS IT GOING TO BE A VIOLENT INCIDENT? WHAT ARE THE PROTOCOLS THAT MR. THREE AND HIS TEAM CAN PUT TOGETHER TO READDRESS IT? BECAUSE PARKING IS NOT AN ISSUE FOR ME. WHERE'S OUR TRANSPORTATION? WHAT WILL BE THOSE PROTOCOLS PUT IN PLACE TO MAKE IT A SAFER LOUNGE FOR THOSE THAT WOULD LOVE TO STAY IN PETERSBURG BESIDES THE CASINO, AND WE COULD GIVE IT A TRY. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT. THANK YOU. OKAY, SEEING NO MORE HANDS, THIS PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED. NO, YOU. IT'S JUST ONE TIME. JUST ONE? YES. WELL, IT WAS JUST SOMETHING. I JUST HAD A QUICK QUESTION BECAUSE SHE SAID THEY WAS WORKING AND I DIDN'T THINK THAT THEY COULD BE WORKING. I DIDN'T THINK YOU COULD WORK. YEAH. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. AT THIS TIME WE HAVE DISCUSSION FROM MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, COUNCILMAN JONES, WHO? IT'S GOING TO BE A SECOND.

I UNDERSTAND WHAT EVERYBODY IS COMING FROM, BUT SINCE WE SAID MARLOW, YOU NEED TO STRADDLE THE FENCE. LET ME ADDRESS THAT FIRST. MARLOW, DON'T STRADDLE NOTHING. MARLOW. PUT ONE LEG IN ONE, ONE SIDE OF HIS JEANS AND THE OTHER LEG AND THE OTHER ONE. THAT'S THE ONLY THING I STRUGGLED TO SEE WITH MY PANTS AND UNDERWEAR. AND WAS IN. THOSE DON'T HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION. PEOPLE IN PETERSBURG. I HEAR YOU. BUT LIKE WITH ANYTHING ELSE, I HEAR FEAR. I HEAR I DON'T WANT TO USE HATE, BUT I HEAR THE SIZE OF A MUSTARD SEED. HATE OR FEAR. I WANT TO ASK A QUESTION. HOW MANY PEOPLE IN HERE EAT PORK? RAISE YOUR HAND. ALL RIGHT. PUT YOUR HANDS DOWN. HOW MANY PEOPLE HERE DON'T EAT PORK. THERE YOU GO. ONE OF THESE CLUBS IS PORK, AND THE OTHER ONE AIN'T. IT'S JUST THAT SIMPLE. DON'T EAT PORK FOR WHATEVER YOUR REASON IS. NOW I CAN STOP RIGHT THERE AND JUST GOING ON, LET THEM GO ON TO SPEAK. BUT I GOT SOME MORE TO TALK ABOUT. MR. JARRETT, PLEASE DON'T THINK I'M PUTTING YOU UNDER THE GUN, BUT COME TO THEMF I'M ASKING THEM QUESTIONS THAT SHOULD COME TO YOU, THEN YOU JUST LET ME KNOW, OKAY? BUT I'M CURIOUS TO KNOW HOW MANY OF THOSE BUILDINGS IN THAT COMPLEX,

[02:20:01]

BECAUSE YOU YOU HAD YOUR CHANCE TO SAY THAT UP HERE. I NEED OUR STAFF TO SPEAK ON THIS. SO THE ANSWER TO THE QUESTION WOULD BE WE HAD WHEN WE MADE THE AMENDMENT LAST YEAR FOR NIGHTCLUBS, LOUNGES, WHATEVER WE WANT TO CALL THEM, THAT SECURITY REQUIREMENT WAS PLACED AS A CONDITION PRIOR TO THAT. IF I'M CORRECT, JARED, THAT WAS NOT A CONDITION. SO IF THERE WAS A PREVIOUS CONDITIONAL USE OR SPECIAL USE PERMITTED PERMIT ISSUED FOR IT, THAT WAS NOT PART OF THE STANDARD CONDITIONS THAT ARE IMPOSED. IS THAT CORRECT? JARED? YES, SIR.

THAT'S CORRECT. WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET HERE. I JUST WANT US TO BE FAIR ACROSS THE BOARD, IF WE'RE GOING TO MAKE ONE, HAVE SECURITY INSIDE AND OUT, BECAUSE SOMEBODY SAID IT'S A DEMAND ON LAW ENFORCEMENT. SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY GOT THAT. AND THAT'S WHY WE CAN'T SAY CAN'T MAKE ONE PERSON HAVE IT AND THE OTHER ONES DON'T. SO YOU NEED TO LOOK INTO THAT, PLEASE. MY NEXT QUESTION. YOU SAID SOMETHING. THE CONDITION THAT THE DOORS GOT CAN'T BE PROPPED OPEN. NOW I HEAR IT. AND I KNOW OF A CODE THAT SAYS YOU CAN'T PROP THEM CLOSED. YOU CAN'T LOCK THEM UP, YOU CAN'T LOCK THE DOORS WHEN IT'S OCCUPIED. BUT WHO IN THE WORLD SAY YOU CAN'T OPEN THEM UP? WHAT'S UP WITH THAT? THAT'S BEEN A PROVISION THAT'S BEEN IN OUR ORDINANCE EVEN PRIOR TO THE. SO I DON'T KNOW ITS ORIGINS, BUT I NEED YOU TO SHOW ME THAT ORDINANCE BECAUSE I HAVE NEVER SEEN THAT, THAT YOU CAN'T PROP YOUR DOORS OPEN. I HAVEN'T SEEN THAT ONE. I KNOW YOU CAN'T LOCK THEM WHEN PEOPLE OCCUPY. LET ME GO TO THE NEXT ONE.

SOUNDPROOFING. I ENTERED THE CHURCH. IT'S SOUNDPROOF. NOT. NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE. I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A LOT OF THIS INFORMATION. I KNOW THE HORSEMEN IS BECAUSE YOU CAN'T REALLY HEAR THAT SOUND COMING OUTSIDE. BUT. BUT THE OTHER PEOPLE AROUND THERE, ARE THEY SOUNDPROOF? YEAH, I'M NOT SURE. OKAY. PARKING LOT. YOU SAID YOU GOT TO BE CLEANED AT THE END OF THE NIGHT. NOW, IF THIS THING GO THROUGH, THAT MEAN THE HORSEMEN, THE CHURCH, EVERYBODY SHOULD SHARE THAT RESPONSIBILITY. NOT JUST ON THIS LOUNGE. CORRECT? I THINK IDEALLY, THE RESPONSIBILITY WOULD BE SHARED. WHAT? WHAT? WE HAVE CONTROL TO PUT CONDITIONS ON IS JUST WHAT'S BEFORE YOU TONIGHT. OKAY, SO WHAT I'M GETTING AT IS THIS. LADIES AND

[02:25:04]

SO I DO KNOW THAT. ALL RIGHT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU PUT THAT IN THERE. EVERYBODY OVER THERE GOT TO PARTICIPATE. ALL RIGHT. SO I WOULD SAY UNFORTUNATELY THIS THE APPLICANT IS THE ONLY ONE IN FRONT OF US RIGHT NOW. SO THAT'S THE ONLY ONE WE CAN IMPOSE A CONDITION UPON. WE CAN'T IMPOSE A CONDITION UPON THE CHURCH OR ANY OTHER BUSINESSES THERE BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT SEEKING. UNDERSTOOD. BUT THE THING IS, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO DETERMINE? JUST LIKE WE HAD NIGHT OUT AGAINST CRIME AND I CALLED ONE OF THE CHURCHES AND I SAID, HEY, THIS TRASH WASN'T OUT HERE AT FIRST. THEY SAID IT WAS COULDN'T DETERMINE IT, BUT IT GOT CLEANED UP. SO WE CAN'T BE PUTTING CONDITIONS LIKE THAT ON.

AND WHEN YOU CAN'T DETERMINE WHO'S AT FAULT, MY NEXT QUESTION. MAN, FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT. ALRIGHT, LET ME ADDRESS SOME THINGS. CHURCHES. PRAISE THE LORD. I NEVER UNDERSTOOD WHY A CHURCH, IF YOU FEAR SOMETHING WRONG OR GOING TO BE WRONG, WHY WOULDN'T A CHURCH WANT. THEM TO BE RIGHT THERE BESIDE THEM? YOU GOTTA GO OUT AND SAVE SOULS ANYWAY. BUT THESE PEOPLE LIVE MOVING RIGHT BESIDE YOU. IT'S MAKING YOUR JOB EASIER. YOU CAN GO RIGHT NEXT DOOR AND SAY, HEY, OUR SERVICE. HERE YOU GO. WHY YOU JAMMING? COME HERE TOMORROW AND SEE ME. COME. PRAISE THE LORD WITH ME. COME ON CHURCHES, WE GOTTA STOP. WE. IF WE'RE GOING TO DO GOD'S WORK, WE CAN'T BE AFRAID OF WHERE WE GOING AND WHAT'S COMING TO US. WE GOT TO BE READY. ON THE BATTLEFIELD IN THIS CITY IS THE BATTLEFIELD. NOW, I'M NOT TELLING YOU. I KNOW I'M POINTING AT YOU. BUT DON'T BE AFRAID, MAN. YOU'RE GOOD. MY NEXT THING SOMEBODY MENTIONED. SOMEBODY MENTIONED. SOMEBODY SAID, THINK ABOUT, SAID MARLOW. THINK ABOUT THE COMMUNITY NOW. I WAS BORN IN THESE STREETS, RAISED IN THESE STREETS, TAUGHT BY THE STREETS.

Y'ALL KNOW THIS SONG. I'M A BAD MAN. THAT'S. THAT'S OUR KELLY RIGHT THERE. I WAS BORN IN THESE STREETS. I COME FROM THIS COMMUNITY, FROM THE LOWEST PARTS OF THIS COMMUNITY. WHEN YOU TELL ME TO THINK ABOUT THE DAMN COMMUNITY, I AM THE COMMUNITY. DON'T TALK ABOUT MY SKATE LAND LIKE YOU PARTICIPATED IN IT. I WENT IN DEBT $150,000, BRINGING SOMETHING BECAUSE Y'ALL SAID IT WON'T. NOTHING FOR THE KIDS TO DO. I PAID FOR IT OUT OF MY POCKETS. THE CITY ONLY PAY ME $400. WHEN YOU GET THAT MONEY FROM MARLO SELLING RIBS FOR Y'ALL WHO DON'T EAT PORK, RIGHT? SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THINK ABOUT THE COMMUNITY. I GAVE THIS COMMUNITY MY ALL. SO I AIN'T GOT NOTHING LEFT TO GIVE BUT MY VOICE. DON'T QUESTION THAT ABOUT ME THINKING ABOUT THE COMMUNITY. BECAUSE THE TRUTH BE TOLD. NOW, THAT CHURCH DID GIVE ME SOME FOOD ONE TIME IT DID. THEY CAME. SHE CAME IN THERE. JOYCE CAME IN THERE AND GAVE ME A PLATE, AND I WENT OVER THERE AND GOT TWO MORE PLATES. BUT THAT'S THE ONLY TIME. THAT'S THE ONLY TIME THAT I SAW THEM. THEY INVITED ME THERE AND I WENT, BUT WHO'S GOING TO COME? BECAUSE YOU SAID SOMETHING ABOUT NO INTRODUCTION. WHO'S GOING TO COME SOMEWHERE? WOULD THEY NOT WANTED? WHO'S GOING TO VISIT YOU IF YOU DON'T LIKE THEM? I DON'T GO TO MY ENEMIES HOUSE. I RIDE PAST THEM FAST AS I DON'T KNOW WHERE. NOW I UNDERSTAND THE CONGESTION THAT THE PASTOR BROUGHT UP. MY QUESTION TO YOU. WHAT DOES THE APPLICATION SAY? DO IT. SAY NIGHTCLUB OR DO IT? SAY LOUNGE. SO THE APPLICATION SAYS THE USE ITSELF IS A NIGHTCLUB. NO, I DIDN'T ASK WHAT THEY USE. I THINK THE APPLICATION SAYS BOTH AT DIFFERENT POINTS. IT'S ROYALTY AT THE BEGINNING. WHAT IS IT? YOU KNOW, IT'S ROYALTY LOUNGE. ROYALTY LOUNGE. SO YOU PRESENTED TO EVERYBODY FIRST AS A NIGHTCLUB, WHICH PUT A BAD TASTE IN PEOPLE'S MOUTH. HAD YOU LED OFF AND SAY, THIS IS GOING TO BE A LOUNGE THAT'S GOING TO FUNCTION AS A

[02:30:02]

BUT THE THING IS, ALL DEPENDS ON WHAT YOU LIKE. PORK OR NO PORK. NOW, HERE WE GO. DON'T DON'T DO THAT TO ME, BROTHER, BECAUSE I'M GETTING SOMEWHERE. I'M GETTING SOMEWHERE, MAN. ALL Y'ALL OUT THERE, MAN. I'M ASKING YOU, DO NOT. DO NOT FEAR WHAT YOU HAVEN'T EVEN SEEN YET.

DON'T FEAR WHAT YOU HAVEN'T EVEN SEEN YET. GIVE IT A CHANCE. IF IT WAS ANYONE OF Y'ALL WANTING ANYTHING, I WOULD GIVE YOU A CHANCE. BECAUSE GUESS WHAT? PEOPLE WHO SPOKE AGAINST IT. WE CAN. WE CAN TAKE IT RIGHT ON BACK. IF THE CHANCE DON'T WORK, WE CAN JUST GIVE IT A CHANCE, Y'ALL. THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING. AND JARED, PLEASE, IN THE FUTURE, MAN, JUST COME OUT STRONG. AND AS IF YOU WANT THIS PLACE HERE. NOT JUST THIS PLACE, BUT ANY PLACE, YOU KNOW, BE AN ADVOCATE FOR A NEW BUSINESS IN THE CITY. THAT'S ALL I GOT, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

VICE MAYOR HILL. YEAH. THANK EVERYONE FOR COMING OUT ON TODAY. IS THE APPLICANT HERE? WHERE IS HE? OKAY. SIR. THANK YOU FOR COMING IN TODAY. APPRECIATE YOU. GOOD EVENING. I NOTICED YOU DIDN'T. THESE ARE YOUR BUSINESS ASSOCIATES. YES. OKAY. THIS IS MY MOTHER, DENISE.

AND THIS IS FRANK. OKAY. ASSOCIATE FRANK WOULD BE MY SECURITY, SO I JUST WANTED HIM TO ADDRESS A LITTLE BIT OF THE SECURITY ISSUES. THANK YOU. CONCERNS. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE YOU. MR. THANK YOU. WHAT WARD IS YOUR YOUR BUSINESS POTENTIAL BUSINESS IN? I BELIEVE IT'S TWO.

I BELIEVE IT'S UNDER YOUR WARD, SIR. YOU DIDN'T CALL ME. YOU DIDN'T CONTACT ME. YOU DIDN'T GET WITH ME. I'VE BEEN GETTING CALLS FROM EVERYBODY. I DID SEND YOU AN EMAIL, SIR. I DON'T REMEMBER THAT EMAIL. I'M EASY TO FIND. MOST PEOPLE, IF THEY CAN'T GET IN CONTACT WITH ME, THEY RUN UP IN MY. IN MY BUSINESS WHERE I'M CUTTING HAIR. I WASN'T AWARE OF THAT, SIR, BUT BUT I'M JUST SAYING EMAIL. I'M JUST SAYING IT'S EASY TO GET IN CONTACT WITH ME. MOST PEOPLE CALL ME. I'VE BEEN GETTING LIKE THREE TEXTS WHEN I WAS WHEN I WAS HERE, I MEAN, WHEN I'M UP HERE AND STUFF. SO THAT'S THAT'S ONE ISSUE I HAVE. WE HAVE INDIVIDUALS AND THEY WOULD COME IN AND YOU MAY HAVE TALKED TO OTHER MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, BUT THE COUNCIL PERSON THAT EVERYBODY COMES TO IN THAT WARD, THAT REPRESENTS THAT WARD, YOU DIDN'T COME TO, I HAVE TO CHECK MY, MY, MY EMAIL. SO THAT'S ONE THING. ANOTHER THING, WE HAD A A CLUB AND NOT PUTTING YOU AGAINST BECAUSE THE FIRST I HEARD, I HEARD IT WAS GOING TO BE A RESTAURANT THROUGH THE GRAPEVINE. NOT FROM YOU HEARD WAS GOING TO BE A RESTAURANT. THEN I HEARD IT WAS GOING TO BE A CLUB. THEN I HEARD IT WAS GOING TO BE A LOUNGE. WHICH ONE IS IT? IT'S A LOUNGE. A LOUNGE.

WHAT DO YOU CONSIDER AS A LOUNGE? THIS LOUNGE WOULD BE SOMETHING UPSCALE FOR PROFESSIONAL MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY, SOMEWHERE WHERE PEOPLE CAN COME AND ENJOY EVENING. I MAY OPEN UP AROUND 5 P.M. WHERE PEOPLE CAN COME AND ENJOY FOOD OR DRINK. VERY UPSCALE. I WANT TO CATER TO VIP CLIENTELE, HAVE ENTERTAINMENT. SO I DO WANT TO HAVE ARTISTS, WHETHER IT BE MUSICIANS OR COULD BE COMEDIANS, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW, PROFESSIONAL PEOPLE HAVE TO LEAVE THE CITY OF PETERSBURG TO GO EXPERIENCE THESE TYPE OF THINGS, WHETHER THEY GOT TO GO TO THE FUNNY BONE THAT'S IN SHORT PUMP THAT'S 50 MINUTES AWAY OR ANY OTHER PLACE, AND I WANT TO JUST BRING THAT TO THE CITY WHERE WE CAN EXPERIENCE THOSE THINGS HERE ALONGSIDE WITH THE CASINO. I KNOW THE CASINO IS GOING TO HAVE SOME OF THOSE TYPE OF THINGS AS WELL, BUT I THINK THE CITY ALSO NEED SOME ACCOMMODATIONS WITH THE CASINO. YOU KNOW, SOMETHING FOR FOLKS TO DO OUTSIDE OF THE CASINO. I MEAN, THE CASINO CAN'T BE THE ONLY THING HERE WHEN YOU DO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WHAT ABOUT THE TENANTS

[02:35:04]

AND I WASN'T AWARE OF THE OTHER CHURCH THAT WAS IN THE AREA. SO I HAVEN'T TALKED TO THAT PERSON, BUT I DID REACH OUT TO THE YOUNG LADY, JOYCE, AND SHE WAS SUPPOSED TO CALL ME BACK AND SHE NEVER CALLED ME BACK. SO THEY SAY I DIDN'T GO OUT AND TRY TO REACH OUT TO THESE PEOPLE, INDIVIDUALS. BUT THAT'S NOT JUST TRUE, OKAY? MY DOOR'S ALWAYS BEEN OPEN. IF ANYBODY KNOWS ME, THAT'S JUST THE TYPE OF PERSON I AM. I'M ALWAYS WILLING TO WORK WITH ANYBODY, SUPPORT ANYTHING YOU HAVE GOING ON. THAT'S JUST WHO I AM. SO. SO THE WAY YOU COME INTO A SITUATION OR COME INTO A COMMUNITY. YOU FROM PETERSBURG? I AM FROM ETTRICK. OKAY. YES.

YOU'RE FROM THE AREA? YES. SO THE WAY YOU COME INTO A COMMUNITY SAYS A LOT. AND YOU KNOW, THE OUR PLAN IS WE HAVE GOOD PLANNERS. ALL OF THEM ARE EDUCATED, ALL OF THEM DO HARD WORK FOR NOTHING. AND THEY DIG IN THE WEEDS FOR US. AND WHEN THEY BRING THESE PROPOSALS TO US, MOST OF THE TIME WE GO WITH THEM. AND SOMETIMES WE DON'T GO WITH THEM. YOU KNOW, WE CHANGE OUR DECISION BECAUSE OF THE COST THAT I'VE BEEN GETTING FROM RESIDENTS AND FROM THE INDIVIDUALS IN THAT AREA. IT'S VERY HARD FOR ME. AND THEN I HAVEN'T TALKED TO YOU. MOST OF THE BUSINESSES THAT COME UP, ESPECIALLY THE BUSINESSES OF THIS MAGNITUDE, THEY HAVE CONVERSATIONS BEFORE. A LOT OF PEOPLE SPEND A LOT OF MONEY. AND I THINK COUNCILMAN JONES SAID THIS NOT TOO LONG AGO, THAT THEY SPENT A LOT OF MONEY HOPING THAT THEY'LL GET THE BUSINESS AND THIS, THAT OR THE OTHER. BUT THEN WHEN THEY GET DENIED, THEY GET UPSET WITH THE COUNCIL. SO SOMETIMES IT'S BEST TO GO AHEAD AND GET YOUR APPROVAL FIRST AND THEN START THE WORK. I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY YOU'VE PUT IN THUS FAR. I BEEN IN A SITUATION JUST LIKE YOU WITH MY. I'VE BEEN IN BUSINESS FOR 26 YEARS, AND I WANT TO PUT A BUSINESS IN FRONT OF THE OLD PETERSBURG GENERAL HOSPITAL. IT WASN'T ZONED FOR THAT. I HAD TO GO OUT AND I HAD TO DO THE FOOTWORK. I HAD TO GET PEOPLE TO SIGN PETITIONS AND ALL THOSE THINGS BRINGING IN FRONT OF THE ZONING. THE ZONING APPROVED ME OVER TOP OF THE PLANNING. MY NEXT STEP WAS GOING TO BE COMING TO COUNCIL, AND THAT WAS 26 YEARS AGO. I HAD NO AMBITIONS AT THE TIME TO BE ON COUNCIL, NONE OF THAT. BUT BEFORE I SPENT A DIME, I MADE SURE THAT MY BUSINESS LICENSE WOULD GET APPROVED FIRST BEFORE I START SPENDING THAT MONEY OUT ON THE SALON.

MOST OF US, A LOT OF US ARE BUSINESS OWNERS UP HERE, SO WE KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GOING THROUGH.

SECURITY. SPEAK TO ME ABOUT YOUR SECURITY. HOW DO YOU PROCEED? YOUR SECURITY TO BE.

WELL, I'M OUTSOURCING THAT. I'M CONTRACTING MY SECURITY OUT BECAUSE I DON'T WANT SECURITY WORKING FOR MY ESTABLISHMENT, BECAUSE I WANT TO BE ABLE TO HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE IN CASE ANYTHING EVER HAPPENED INSIDE OR OUTSIDE OF MY BUILDING. I WANT THEM TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE AS WELL AS MYSELF. SO THIS IS FRANK. I CAN LET HIM, YOU KNOW, REALLY, REALLY GO INTO DETAIL ABOUT THE SECURITY. SO IS THE SECURITY GOING TO BE INSIDE AND OUTSIDE? YES, SIR.

INSIDE, INSIDE AND OUTSIDE? INSIDE. ARE THERE POTENTIAL FOR CAMERAS? WE ALREADY HAVE CAMERAS OUT. ALREADY HAVE CAMERAS. SO YOU ALREADY INVESTED MONEY IN CAMERAS AND EVERYTHING. YOU HAVE CAMERAS UP OUTSIDE? YES, SIR. OKAY. ALREADY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THE 500 IF YOU'RE GOING TO GET. AND WHAT IS THE AGE LIMIT GOING TO BE 30 AND UP. ARE YOU SURE IT'S GOING TO BE 30. AND I'M POSITIVE IT'S GOING TO BE 30 AND UP. 30 AND UP. YES, SIR. SO YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A TEEN NIGHT? NO TEEN NIGHT A TEENAGER NIGHT. THAT'S NOT MY DIRECTION.

THAT'S NOT YOUR DIRECTION AT ALL. BECAUSE TYPICALLY WHAT HAPPENS AND I'M GLAD YOU SAY THAT. WHAT HAPPENS IS WHEN INDIVIDUALS START, THEY THEY START OFF THIS WAY, THIS MODEL.

BUT THEN WHEN THEY FIND OUT THAT THEY'RE NOT MAKING MONEY, THEY TEND TO DROP THE AGE DOWN.

CORRECT. AND THEN BEFORE YOU KNOW IT, YOU GOT A LOT OF TEENYBOPPERS AND ALL THAT IN THERE. AND WHEN, WHEN THE SKATING RINK WAS THERE AND COUNCILMAN JONES WOULD DO THINGS WITH VIRGINIA STATE, THE PARKING LOT LIKE PACKED, I MEAN, JAM PACKED. AND THE LIGHT ONLY CAN GO SO FAR, YOU KNOW, IT GOES SO MANY TIMES UNLESS YOU'RE TURNING RIGHT AND YOU'RE GOOD, BUT IF YOU'RE TURNING LEFT OR YOU'RE GOING STRAIGHT, YOU GOT TO WAIT A WHILE. SO I LIKE TO HEAR A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOUR SECURITY. YOU CAN GET YOUR SECURITY GUY. YEAH. HOW Y'ALL DOING? MY NAME IS FRANK. I'M THE ACCOUNT MANAGER FOR SHADOW GUARD SECURITY SERVICES. I'M

[02:40:04]

HIGH VISIBILITY FOR THAT, MONITORING THE SUSPICIOUS ACTIVITY AND PREVENTION OF, AGAIN, LIKE I SAID, LOITERING. WE'RE GOING TO DO ALL THIS WITH COORDINATION OF LAW ENFORCEMENT.

THIS ISN'T JUST OUR OPERATION. WE'RE DEFINITELY GOING TO WORK WITH THE CITY, PETERSBURG TO HELP GET THINGS DONE WITH THAT ON THE ON THAT MATTER. OKAY. YES, SIR. THANK YOU. I DON'T MEAN TO CUT ACROSS YOU. YOU HAVE TIME TO FINISH. HAVE YOU SPOKEN TO OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT YET OR NOT YET? YOU WAIT UNTIL AFTER YOU GET. WE'VE SPOKEN TO A COUPLE OF THEM. SOME OF THEM.

FRANK WAS MORE SO ON THAT, ON THAT REALM, SPEAKING TO THE POLICE OFFICERS AROUND ABOUT HOW MANY, HOW MANY SECURITY OFFICERS WILL YOU HAVE DURING, LET'S SAY, A FUNCTION OR DURING A BETWEEN A MINIMUM? OH, I'M SORRY. I'M SORRY BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO CONTRACT HIM. HOW MANY WOULD YOU HAVE? IT DEPENDS ON THE VOLUME OF THAT NIGHT. BUT A MINIMUM OF TEN. OKAY, OKAY. SO FIVE ON THE OUTSIDE, FIVE ON THE INSIDE, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. ROUGHLY. ROUGHLY ROUGHLY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. YOUR LEASE. ARE YOU PURCHASING OR ARE YOU BUYING? I'M LEASING.

YOU'RE LEASING. YES, SIR. OKAY. AND YOUR LEASE IS FOR HOW LONG DO YOU KNOW? TWO YEARS. TWO YEARS. 500. THAT IS A LOT. THAT'S A LOT. 500 IN THAT WHOLE COMPLEX IS A LOT. IF, LET'S SAY TWO GUYS, TWO GIRLS COME TOGETHER. I MEAN, COME SEPARATE. THAT'S FOUR CARS RIGHT THERE.

THEY COME TO MEET EACH OTHER. THAT'S FOUR SPACES GONE RIGHT THERE. THAT'S A LOT. AND NOT TALKING ABOUT ANY OTHER BUSINESS BECAUSE ALL THE OTHER BUSINESSES IN AND WHAT HAVE YOU, THEY ALREADY THEY ALREADY HAVE THEIR PARKING AND STUFF AND WHAT HAVE YOU. SO THAT IS A LOT.

I DO WANT TO ASK YOU, WHAT ARE YOUR HOURS WOULD BE ROUGHLY 4 P.M. TILL 1 TO 2 A.M. 4 TO 2 WEDNESDAY THROUGH SUNDAY. SO WEDNESDAY THROUGH SUNDAY. SO SUNDAY YOU'RE STARTING SUNDAY.

THAT'D BE 42 AS WELL. OKAY. WHAT IS THE COST? THE COST? YEAH. WHAT IS THE COST TO GET IN. IT DEPENDS ON THE NIGHT. YOU KNOW IF WE HAVE ARTISTS THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING

[02:45:05]

ALL RIGHT. AND YOU PLAN ON HAVING A ABC LICENSE? YES, SIR. CAN I ADDRESS THE PARKING LOT? RIGHT. YES. THE PARKING LOT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED. DEFINITELY. AND NOT JUST FOR MANY PEOPLE. IT'S GOING TO BE THERE. I'M WILLING TO WORK WITH THE LANDLORD TO HAVE IT REPAVED AND STRIPED. THAT'S THE ONE ISSUE THAT YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE TO PARK OUT THERE IN FRONT OF THAT BUILDING. YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T EVEN SEE THE LINES TO PARK IN THE WEST. SO HOW CAN WE SAY WE HAVE A PARKING ISSUE WHEN WE HAVEN'T EVEN ADDRESSED THAT YET? SO WE DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN GET 500 CARS OR 800 CARS. I KNOW YOU CAN'T GET 500. WELL, THAT'S JUST I'M JUST THROWING A NUMBER OUT THERE. BUT THE POINT MY POINT IS YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT WE CAN GET OUT THERE AT THIS POINT. SO I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED. I THINK THE LIGHTING OUT THERE NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED. THE HORSEMEN BEEN THERE FOR HOWEVER MANY YEARS. I MEAN, WE HAVE LIGHTS OUT THERE. YOU CAN'T EVEN SEE AT NIGHT OUT THERE. AND I JUST HAD THE LIGHTS UNDER THE BUILDING FIXED THAT RUNS FROM MY BUILDING ALL THE WAY DOWN THROUGH THE CHURCH.

THOSE LIGHTS WASN'T WORKING, BUT THEY'RE WORKING NOW. AND I GOT WITH THE LANDLORD TO MAKE SURE THAT THE LIGHTS OUT IN THE, IN THE PARKING LOT WILL BE FIXED HERE SOON. SO WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE ISSUES. RIGHT. BUT WHO'S SOLVING THESE ISSUES, YOU KNOW, AND WHAT'S THE WHAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO BE THE THE SOLUTION TO THE ISSUES? I MEAN, AND I THINK WE NEED TO START THERE. I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE A YIELD SIGN WHEN YOU COME OFF THE ROAD BECAUSE YOU GOT JESSE LEE MEMBERS COMING THROUGH THAT PARKING LOT, JUST SOMETIMES ALL WILLY NILLY. I SIT THERE AND WATCH AND SEE THIS STUFF. SO I THINK SOME OF THOSE THINGS NEED TO BE ADDRESSED AS WELL. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE PARKING LOT. AND THEN I DO HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION FOR YOU, MR. HILL. YOU SAID YOU GOT A LOT OF TEXT AND CONCERNS AND THEY CALLED YOU AND THAT TYPE OF THING. CAN I ASK YOU WHY YOU DIDN'T REACH OUT TO ME? I DON'T KNOW YOU. I DIDN'T KNOW YOU. I DON'T KNOW HOW TO GET IN CONTACT WITH YOU. I JUST HEARD IT WAS SOMEONE UP THERE JUST OPENED UP SOMETHING.

RIGHT. BUT I'M THE COUNCILMAN. YES, SIR. AND IT'S IN MY WARD. YES, SIR. YES, SIR. I'M THE COUNCILMAN, AND IT'S IN MY WARD. AND TYPICALLY, THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED. AND I'M NOT TAKING OFFENSE TO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, I HOPE NOT. YEAH, I DIDN'T WANT TO. I JUST ASKED A VALID QUESTION. YES. YOU HAVE A VALID YOU HAVE A VALID QUESTION. BUT BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT YOU NEED MY PERMISSION OR NOTHING LIKE THAT. IT'S NOT LIKE THAT. BUT THE THING IS, WHEN PEOPLE HAVE CONCERNS AND PROBLEMS, THEY COME TO US. NOW, I DIDN'T HAVE A CONCERN, OKAY? I DIDN'T HAVE A PROBLEM. NO, NO, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT YOU. I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT WHEN OTHER WHEN THE RESIDENTS DO. THE FIRST PEOPLE, THEY CALL US. NOW, YOU MAY HAVE GONE TO ANOTHER COUNCIL MEMBER OR COUNCIL PERSONS, IF YOU WILL. I'M NOT SAYING YOU HAVE BECAUSE I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING, BUT I JUST KNOW I HAVEN'T. WE HAVE A WE TRY OUR BEST TO HAVE A A COUNCIL RESPECT FOR ONE ANOTHER WHEN IT COMES. I'M JUST LETTING YOU ALL IN ON THIS. AND TYPICALLY WHEN SOMETHING COMES UP, IF SOMEBODY COME TO ME ABOUT ONE OF THEIR WARDS OR WHATEVER, I GO TO THEM AND TELL THEM, LOOK, SUCH AND SUCH, TRYING TO DO SUCH AND SUCH, I KNOW THEM THIS, THAT OR THE OTHER. LET ME BRING YOU IN.

THAT WASN'T DONE TO ME. OKAY? SO IF I'M IN MY FEELINGS, MY, MY MY SKIN IS IS THICK. BUT I'M JUST SAYING THAT'S BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, COME VOTING TIME, THEY'RE GOING TO LOOK AT ME. THEY AIN'T GONNA LOOK AT THEM. THEY'RE GONNA LOOK AT ME. THEY'RE GOING TO SAY, YOU ALLOW SUCH AND SUCH, OR YOU DIDN'T ALLOW SUCH AND SUCH. AND THAT'S WHAT IT COMES DOWN TO. SO AT THE END OF THE DAY, THAT IS NOT POLITICS, BUT IT'S JUST WHAT IT IS, BECAUSE I HAVE TO SOLVE THE PROBLEMS OF THE PEOPLE IN WARD TWO. NOW, I GREW UP IN PETERSBURG WARD WARD SIX.

THAT'S WHERE I GREW UP AT. I BOUGHT A HOUSE IN WARD SEVEN, MY FIRST HOUSE. NOW I'M IN WARD TWO, MY SECOND, I MEAN MY THIRD HOUSE. SO. SO I KNOW THE WHOLE BORN AND RAISED, ALL OF THAT HERE. SO I AM PETERSBURG. SO. BUT I APPRECIATE YOU ASKING THAT QUESTION AND WHAT HAVE YOU.

SO. IF ANYBODY GOT ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. YES. I JUST HAD A QUESTION FOR MR. THREE. YOU HAVE CAMERAS OUTSIDE THERE. I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO WORK WITH POLICE, BECAUSE WE HAVE A SYSTEM IN WHICH WE CAN MONITOR YOUR CAMERAS. YES, AS, AS WELL. SO WHEN YOU GET A CHANCE TO GET WITH, YOU KNOW, IF THIS PASSES TO GET WITH THE POLICE CHIEF TO SINK EVERYTHING IN, BECAUSE WE GOT TO BE ON ONE ACCORD WITH THAT. AND, AND. ALL RIGHT. AND VICE MAYOR HILL. OH I'M SORRY.

[02:50:02]

I'M A PASTOR, CHURCH IS YOU GOT YOU GOT BIBLE STUDY ON WEDNESDAYS, WEDNESDAY NIGHTS YOU GOT REVIVALS THAT YOU'RE RUNNING TUESDAY, WEDNESDAY AND THURSDAY, FRIDAY, SATURDAY SOMETIMES. SO CHURCH IS NOT JUST A SUNDAY. SPIRITUAL EVENT. YEAH, I UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, AND WHAT HAVE YOU. SO I DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO SAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GOING TO BE GONE BY 2:00. AND THE CHURCH, YOU KNOW, CHURCH THERE HAS SOMEWHERE TO PARK. NO CHURCHES IS GOING ON. EVERY TIME I RIDE THROUGH THERE, THERE'S THERE'S CARS OUT THERE AND WHAT HAVE YOU, BECAUSE THEY'RE DOING MINISTRY AND WHAT HAVE YOU. AND NOT SAYING THAT IT'S JUST ALL FOR THEM. YOU KNOW, THE HORSEMEN, THEY ARE A A CLUB BUT A CLUB, A SOCIAL CLUB WITH MEMBERSHIP, WHICH BASICALLY MEANS THEY HAVE MEMBERS, BUT THEY ALSO CAN RECEIVE THE PUBLIC AS WELL. SO IT'S JUST LIKE A REGULAR CLUB WE HAD, WE HAVE GOTTEN AWAY FROM DOING CLUBS IN PETERSBURG. I KNOW YOU CALLED IT A LOUNGE. WE'VE GOTTEN AWAY FROM IT BECAUSE OF THE VIOLENCE THAT HAS TAKEN PLACE OVER THE YEARS. NOW I KNOW EVERYBODY WANT YEAH, WE'RE CHANGING AND WE'RE DOING THINGS DIFFERENT AND STUFF. BUT I REMEMBER A TIME WHEN WE WAS HAVING KNOCK ON WOOD SHOOTINGS AT CLUBS, PEOPLE LOUNGING OUT IN THE PARKING LOTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. THE COPPER MINE, 24 SOUTH UNION EVEN NOT NOT EVEN. AND THOSE WAS OLDER, BUT EVEN NOT TOO FAR FROM WHERE YOU ARE IN MY WARD, THAT WE HAD TO CLOSE DOWN UP THERE WHERE THE GO KART VILLAGE AREA WAS, THEY TURNED THAT INTO LIKE A CLUB. SO WE WE'VE BEEN DOWN THIS ROAD BEFORE, AND IT'S NOT LIKE WE CAN'T SEE THE FUTURE BECAUSE WE KNOW WHAT COMES WITH THAT ELEMENT. NOW THIS IS SOMETHING DIFFERENT. I WILL SAY THAT IF YOU'RE GOING TO STICK TO 30 AND OLDER, IT MAY BE SOMETHING DIFFERENT. BUT THE THING IS, I WISH I WOULD HAVE MET YOU A LOT SOONER. THAT'S ALL. YOU KNOW, I WISH YOU WOULD HAVE HAD THIS CONVERSATION SO WE WOULDN'T DO ALL THIS. BECAUSE NORMALLY ALL THIS STUFF RIGHT HERE WHEN I'M DEALING IS ALREADY FLUSHED OUT.

I'M WILLING TO STILL HAVE THAT CONVERSATION, SIR. DEFINITELY. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. RIGHT, COUNCILMAN, ONE OF THE THINGS YOU COULD DO, IF YOU WANT THAT TO BE SOLIDIFIED IS MAKE IT A CONDITION. IF YOU WANT THE 30 AND OVER TO BE A CONDITION, COUNCIL CAN AMEND IT TO ADD THAT IF YOU WANT THE TEN MINIMUM SECURITY OFFICERS, COUNCIL CAN MOVE TO ADD THAT AS A CONDITION. IF YOU CHOOSE TO APPROVE THIS. OKAY. ALL RIGHT, COUNCILMAN JONES. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. WHEN WE SPEAK ON CONDITIONS, I AGREE WE CAN ADD THAT. BUT LIKE LIKE THE APPLICANT SAID, THE THINGS HE MENTIONED SHOULD HAVE BEEN CONDITIONS IN THE FIRST PLACE, THE PARKING LOT BEING LINED, THE LIGHTING. I RAN A SKATING RINK AND IT GOT DARK AS HECK OUT THERE. EVEN BEFORE THE HORSEMAN WAS DARK, THE ONLY LIGHTS THAT WAS OUT THERE WAS THE LIGHTS ON THAT PORCH AND THE LIGHTS THAT WAS ON MY PORCH. SO THESE THINGS SHOULD HAVE BEEN CONDITIONS. THE PARKING LOT. I KNOW WHEN WE DO ANY OTHER BUSINESS, THE PARKING IS A CONDITION. HAVING IT LINED AND STRIPED. HELL, Y'ALL JUST DID IT FOR THE LAST CAR DEALERSHIPS. WE SAID YOU GOTTA HAVE IT PAVED AND LINED AND STRIPED AND SOME KIND OF WAY.

THIS WAS LEFT OUT OF THE LOOP BECAUSE I GUESS OUR MINDSET WAS ALREADY HELL BENT ON SAYING NO.

WE GOTTA STOP BEING HYPOCRITICAL. AND I'M CALLING THAT NOT CALLING ANYBODY HYPOCRITES UP HERE OUT THERE. I'M JUST SAYING TO BACK UP MY STATEMENT IS THIS CLUBS, WE DON'T WANT CLUBS, BUT WE'RE GETTING READY TO OPEN UP A BIG, BIG DOG ON CLUB. ON WAGNER WAY OR WAGNER, VIRGINIA. SOME OF THEM CALL IT, WHICH IS PETERSBURG, VIRGINIA, CALLED THE CASINO. IT'S GOING TO BE THE SAME THING, THE SAME THING. SO IF THEY CAN DO IT, THEN THEY CAN DO IT. IT'S ALL IN HOW WE GOING TO LIVE IN HARMONY. SO ALL I'M ASKING. ALL I'M ASKING IS FOR THE CHURCHES AND THE HORSEMEN. BECAUSE I KNOW THE HORSEMEN ARE REAL GOOD PEOPLE.

I THINK Y'ALL BE REALLY GOOD PARTNERS, MAN, I REALLY DO. WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY PROBLEMS WHEN WE WORKED TOGETHER, WHEN WE OPENED UP AT THE SAME TIME. MATTER OF FACT, THE SCATTERING WAS OPEN AT THE SAME TIME THAT THE CHURCH BESIDE ME WAS OPENING. I'M GONNA TELL YOU SOMETHING. YOU CAN HEAR THEM CLEAN OUTSIDE. AND THAT WAS GOOD NOISE. THEY WAS PRAISING THE LORD. WE WERE SKATING. WE WERE SKATING. I WAS PRAISING THE LORD. MATTER OF FACT, ONE LADY RAN OUT OF THE CHURCH INTO OUR SKATING RINK BECAUSE SHE FELT SO GOOD, YOU KNOW? SO, HEY, MIGHT HAVE IT HAPPEN WITH YOU, YOU KNOW? BUT I'M SAYING, THIS IS OUR CITY. WE GOTTA GROW TOGETHER, Y'ALL. WE GOT TO. AND PEOPLE DON'T FEAR. JUST PUT YOUR TRUST IN US. IF IF IT DON'T WORK, WE'LL TAKE IT BACK. IT'S JUST THAT SIMPLE. BUT EVERYTHING IS IN PLACE. AND AS FAR AS OUR WARDS AND HAVING RESPECT, LET ME TELL Y'ALL SOMETHING. AND I'M GONNA ADDRESS COUNCIL UP HERE, I DON'T CARE. ONE OF Y'ALL GOT ANYTHING TO SAY ABOUT MY WARD? IF IT'S GOING TO MAKE IT BETTER, DO IT. YOU REPRESENT ME. DO IT. I'M OKAY WITH THAT. AND. AND,

[02:55:05]

SO SO SO LET LET ME TAKE THE BULLET. BECAUSE HERE'S THE THING, Y'ALL. WHAT I DO TODAY IS FOR TOMORROW WHAT OUR VOTES IS I. IF I GOT 2000 PEOPLE, WHICH I DO IN MY WARD, AND I MAY MAKE A DECISION, BUT 500 AIN'T GOING TO LIKE. BUT THE OTHER 1500 WILL. BUT IT WOULD BENEFIT THE WHOLE 2000. SO I DON'T CARE WHO LIKE IT AND DON'T LIKE IT. I'M DOING IT FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE WHOLE CITY. THAT'S HOW I MAKE MY DECISIONS. SO YOU CAN VOTE FOR ME OR YOU DON'T HAVE TO VOTE FOR ME. YOU WANT THAT $400, COME GET IT, YOU KNOW? BUT MY THING IS, I'M VOTING FOR TOMORROW. EVERYBODY NEEDS SOMETHING TO DO. BUT BE CAREFUL WHEN YOU SAY THE KIDS DON'T HAVE NOTHING TO DO BECAUSE THEY HAVE SOMETHING TO DO. AND AIN'T NOBODY COME FOR ONE RULE. I SAID YOU COULDN'T SMELL LIKE WEED COMING UP IN THERE. AND THE WHOLE CITY BOYCOTTED ME. THEY BOYCOTTED ME. AND THAT'S THE TRUTH, I AIN'T LYING. IF I'M LYING, STOP ME WITH TRUTH. THAT'S THE TRUTH. SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE 500 NUMBER, THAT'S WAY LESS THAN WHAT I WAS ALLOWED IN THERE. THAT PLACE CAN HOLD 1500, TRUST ME. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I KNOW THE VICE MAYOR NOT GOING TO MAKE THIS MOTION, BUT I'LL MAKE IT. AND, MR. MAYOR, I WANT TO MAKE THE MOTION TO. THE 90. APPROVED THE ORDINANCE, APPROVED THE REQUEST BY MR. DANTE THWEATT ON BEHALF OF SWEET INVESTMENTS, LLC, FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO OPERATE A NIGHTCLUB AT 2793 SOUTH CRATER ROAD, PARCEL ID 065110004, IN THE B-2 GENERAL COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT, WITH CONDITIONS OF HAVING HAD PARKING LOT PAVED AND LINE HAVING A PROPER YIELD, SIGNS AND PROPER LIGHTING. REGARDLESS OF WHO TAKE CARE OF IT, WHETHER IT'S YOU OR THE LANDLORD. THOSE ARE MY CONDITIONS. THAT IS MY MOTION. ALL RIGHT, COUNCILMAN MYERS, SORRY, I HAVE A MOTION. AND A SECOND I WAS GOING TO ASK, ARE THOSE CONDITIONS IN ADDITION TO THE ONES THAT ARE RECOMMENDED IN THE STAFF REPORT? LET ME LOOK AT MY NOTES REAL QUICK. BEFORE WE AGREE TO THAT AS A SECOND. WOULD YOU READ THEM TO ME, PLEASE? AGAIN? SAY THAT AGAIN. WOULD YOU READ THOSE CONDITIONS TO ME AGAIN? PLEASE? REMEMBER I USED TO OWN A NIGHTCLUB. YES, YES, THE PARKING LOT. IT DOES NEED TO BE LINED BECAUSE THAT HELPS WITH OUR PUBLIC SAFETY. GETTING IN AND OUT. RIGHT. THAT'S THAT'S TO INCLUDE WHAT'S IN ON THAT.

AND THE AND THE LIGHTING, PAVEMENT, PAVE PAVING AND STRIPING ARE THE PARKING LOT.

AND THERE'S A YIELD SIGN COMING. SEE THE MANAGER ASKED ABOUT THE OTHER CONDITIONS. WHAT OTHER WHAT ALL OF THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON. I NEED TO REMEMBER WHAT I HEARD EARLIER. RIGHT. SO THE CONDITIONS THAT WERE CONTAINED IN THE STAFF REPORT AS PART OF THE RESOLUTION, THE FIRST CONDITION IS THE ESTABLISHMENT SHALL NOT SERVE ALCOHOL OR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES TO CUSTOMERS BETWEEN THE HOURS OF 2 A.M. AND 6 A.M. THAT'S STANDARD. YEAH. THE MENU SHALL BE PROVIDED CONTAINING THE ASSORTMENT OF FOODS WHICH SHALL BE MADE AVAILABLE AT ALL TIMES.

THE ESTABLISHMENT IS OPEN A FOOD MENU IN FULL DINING SERVICE THAT'S IN ACCORDANCE TO THE ABC BOARD. RIGHT. A LOT OF THESE ARE STANDARD, BUT THEY'RE JUST MEMORIALIZED. NO DOOR TO THE ESTABLISHMENTS WOULD OPENS TO, INTO, OR FACES. A PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY SHALL BE PROPPED OPEN DURING ANY TIME THAT ENTERTAINMENT IS BEING PROVIDED. ADDITIONALLY, NO DOORS FACING THE ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY SHALL BE PROPPED OPEN AT ANY TIME DURING ANY TIME ENTERTAINMENT IS BEING PROVIDED FOR. THE ESTABLISHMENT SHALL MAINTAIN A CURRENT ACTIVE BUSINESS LICENSE AT ALL TIMES WHILE IN OPERATION. FIVE THE ESTABLISHMENT SHALL REMAIN CURRENT ON ALL FOOD AND BEVERAGE TAXES AND PERSONAL BUSINESS PERSONAL PROPERTY TAXES WHICH MAY COME DUE WHILE IT IS IN OPERATION. SIX THE ESTABLISHMENT SHALL COMPLY WITH THE QUOTE ROYAL LOUNGE MANAGEMENT PROGRAM, INCLUDING THE FLOOR PLAN PROVIDED AND THEY AND THE ROYALTY LOUNGE LOUNGE SECURITY AND CROWD MANAGEMENT PLAN WHICH ACCOMPANIED THE APPLICATION. THE FLOOR PLAN FOR THE FACILITY WILL BE POSTED ON THE PREMISES IN A PROMINENT LOCATION, VIEWABLE TO PATRONS. SEVEN THE ESTABLISHMENT SHALL IMPLEMENT SOUNDPROOFING MEASURES TO MINIMIZE NOISE WITHIN THE ESTABLISHMENT AND IN THE SURROUNDING AREA TO PREVENT DISTURBANCES AUDIBLE BEYOND THE PROPERTY LINE. WITH THE DOORS CLOSED, ANY NEW OWNER OR OPERATOR OF THE PROPERTY MUST CERTIFY WITH THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR THAT THE PARTY WILL BE UNDERTAKING THE SAME OR LIKE ENDEAVOR THAT THEIR

[03:00:03]

THE PROPERTY SHALL BE KEPT AND MAINTAINED IN A CLEAN, ORDERLY MANNER AND THE PARKING LOT AREA SHALL BE CLEARED OF LITTER AND DEBRIS FOLLOWING EACH NIGHT OF OPERATION. REPEATED SUBSTANTIATED COMPLAINTS REGARDING THE SITE CLEANLINESS SHALL BE RESULT IN A REVIEW AND POSSIBLE REVOCATION OF THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT. THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT SHALL BE SUBJECT TO REVIEW TWO YEARS AFTER APPROVAL, FOR COMPLIANCE WITH THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL, AND THE LAST, THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT MAY BE REVOKED BY THE CITY OF PETERSBURG COUNCIL OR ITS DESIGNATED AGENT FOR FAILURE OF THE APPLICANT TO COMPLY WITH ANY OF THE LISTED CONDITIONS OR PROVISIONS OF FEDERAL, STATE OR LOCAL REGULATIONS. MARLOWE, COULD YOU ALSO ADD ONE OF YOUR CONDITIONS WITH MAYOR PARUM ASKED ABOUT THEM WORKING WITH THE POLICE CHIEF SECURITY PLAN? CAN WE ADD THE SECURITY PLAN TO THAT? ALL RIGHT. MY MOTION STANDS WITH THE CONDITIONS, LIGHTING, PARKING LOT, STRIPED AND PAVED. DEAL WITH YOUR LANDLORD. WOULD THAT HAVE YOU GOT TO DO IT? AND THAT YIELD SIGN. THE YIELD SIGN HE'S TALKING ABOUT. PEOPLE COME IN FROM CRATER ROAD AND CUT RIGHT ON ACROSS TO GO TO JESSE LEE. THERE'S NO CONTROL OVER THAT. I USED TO HAVE TO PARK MY RV RIGHT THERE TO KEEP HIM FROM COMING THROUGH THERE, TO MAKE SURE THEY ABIDE BY THE LAW AND GO OUT TO THE ROAD. BUT I WANT TO ADD THE CAMERAS BEING TIED INTO THE PETERSBURG POLICE DEPARTMENT. AND THAT'S MY MOTION, SIR. THE DOORS, I DON'T QUITE FOLLOW THE DOORS, NOT BEING ABLE TO BE PROPPED OPEN. THOSE ARE GROCERY STORE STYLE DOORS THAT IF YOU EVER DONE SECURITY, THAT FIRST SET OF DOORS GOT TO BE OPEN TO BE ABLE TO WANDER IN AND HAVE YOUR METAL DETECTOR SET UP PROPERLY. YOU CAN'T JUST HAVE THOSE DOORS CLOSED LIKE THAT WHEN YOU GOT OCCUPANCY IN THERE. SO I WANT TO STRIKE THAT, YOU KNOW, AND CHRISTIAN SAY THAT AGAIN. AND ADD IT TO THE PETERSBURG POLICE SECURITY PLAN. YES. THE DOORS.

ALL RIGHT, CHIEF CHRISTIAN, YOU COPY THAT? YES, SIR. THAT'S MY MOTION. ALRIGHT. MOTION.

COUNCILMAN MYERS. YES. YES, SIR. YOU GOOD WITH THOSE CONDITIONS? THAT. YES. AND BUT WITH RESPECT TO THE DOORS, WHERE THEY ARE APPLICABLE, WHERE IT IS APPLICABLE. YES, SIR. WHERE THEY'RE APPLICABLE, WHERE IT IS APPLICABLE. RIGHT. ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT, MR. MAYOR.

COUNCILMAN WESTBROOK, YOU GOT ANY DISCUSSION, ANY MORE DISCUSSION ON IT? I WAS GOING TO SAY IF CHIEF. CHIEF, DID YOU HAVE ANY? I KNOW BECAUSE WE'RE INVOLVING YOU AND YOUR DEPARTMENT. COULD YOU SPEAK ON HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT THE THE DOORS ISSUE AND SECURITY? BECAUSE WE ARE INVOLVE YOU WITHOUT YOUR INPUT. I DON'T I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD TO THE WITH RESPECT TO THE DOORS. THE ONLY THING THAT I WOULD ASK IS THAT ANY SECURITY PLAN THAT'S DEVELOPED BE APPROVED BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IN COORDINATION WITH OUR EFFORTS, AS I'M SURE THE THE IMPACT OF THE NOT NECESSARILY THE CASINO. I'M SORRY, THE LOUNGE WILL HAVE AN IMPACT ON US WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT SERVICES AS WELL. MR. MAYOR, JUST TO CLARIFY, I THINK THAT KNOW THAT DOOR PROVISION IN THE CODE IS THERE FOR NOISE BECAUSE A CLUB'S GOING TO BE LOUD. AND SO IF YOU PROP THE DOOR OPEN. BUT I WANT TO ADD THERE'S TWO SETS OF DOORS. YES THAT'S RIGHT. THERE'S TWO SETS OF DOORS. YOU HAVE A FOYER, THEN YOU HAVE A DOOR THAT LEADS INTO THE CLUB, YOU KNOW, INTO THE PLACE. I KNOW THIS BECAUSE I'VE DONE IT.

I'VE HAD MY DOORS PROPPED OPEN FOR PEOPLE TO COME IN, BUT WITH THE MUSIC SKY HIGH, YOU COULDN'T HEAR IT BECAUSE THE INSIDE DOORS WERE CLOSED. THOSE ENTRY DOORS WERE OPEN FOR EASY ACCESS, IN AND OUT AND FOR SECURITY. SO THOSE DOORS, THOSE TWO PARTICULAR DOORS WERE LIKE MR. MEYER SAID, WHERE APPLICABLE, THOSE ARE THE DOORS THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT, NOT THE DOORS LEADING INTO THE FACILITY ITSELF. FROM THAT FOR YOU, YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? YOU. IF I COULD ONE CLARIFICATION. SO MICROPHONE EXCUSE ME. SO SOME OF THESE CONDITIONS THAT WERE DRAFTED ARE BUILT INTO THE ORDINANCE AS AUTOMATIC CONDITIONS. SO I MIGHT NEED SOME GUIDANCE FROM THE ATTORNEY IF WE'RE LOOKING TO STRIKE ANY OF THOSE THAT ARE.

WE DIDN'T STRIKE ANYTHING. OKAY. OTHER THAN THE DOORS. BUT WE GOTTA IDENTIFY THE DOORS. ARE WE TALKING ABOUT ARE THE ONES LEADING TO THE FOYER, NOT THE MAIN DOOR? MAYBE THAT'S WHAT I

[03:05:01]

COUNCIL MEMBER. JONES. NO. COUNCIL MEMBER. MYERS. NO. COUNCIL MEMBER. WESTBROOK.

COUNCIL MEMBER. SMITH. NO. VICE MAYOR. HEEL. MAYOR. NO. COUNCILMEMBER. WESTBROOK. NO.

ALL RIGHT. BACK ON THE ORIGINAL MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MYERS AND COUNCILMAN JONES. MISS HILL, COULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL COUNCIL MEMBER CUTHBERT? NO. COUNCIL MEMBER. JONES. I, COUNCIL MEMBER. MEAD. COUNCIL MEMBER. WESTBROOK. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER. SMITH. AYE. VICE MAYOR.

HEEL. AYE. MAYOR. PEAR. A MOTION CARRIES. ALL RIGHT. THE MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, SIR. NEXT IS ITEM E, A PUBLIC HEARING FOR CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE TO APPROVE A REQUEST BY ALEXANDER GRAHAM JR. ON BEHALF OF THE WARRENTON GROUP TO REZONE PROPERTY AT 2088 DEFENSE ROAD, 1918. TOWNS ROAD IN 1926. BOGIE'S DRIVE. PARCEL IDS 07 0080 0020 69070001077010801 FROM THE A AGRICULTURE AND R-1 SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE ZONING DISTRICTS TO THE M-1 LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICTS WITH PROFFERS AND TO AMEND THE EXISTING PROFFERS FOR PROPERTIES AT 2233 HALIFAX ROAD. PARCEL ID 076030800. IN THE M-1 LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICT. JARRETT. THANK YOU SIR. SO LOOKING HERE ARE THE SUBJECT PROPERTIES. SO THERE'S THE PROPERTY WE DISCUSSED. 2233 HALIFAX ROAD, WHICH HAS THE EXISTING M-1 ZONING AS WELL AS THE SOME ADDITIONAL PROPERTIES THAT THE APPLICANT HAS ACQUIRED.

YOU ALL WILL REMEMBER IN APRIL OF LAST YEAR, CITY COUNCIL HAD APPROVED THE REZONING OF 2233 HALIFAX ROAD OR THE COLLIER YARD SITE, TO M-1, WITH TEN PROFFERED CONDITIONS SPECIFIC TO A DATA CENTER DEVELOPMENT ON THAT SITE. SO SINCE THEN, DURING THE SITE DESIGN PROCESS, THE DEVELOPER HAD IDENTIFIED CHALLENGES WITH ACCESS TO THE SITE FROM HALIFAX ROAD, WHICH WAS ONE OF THE PROFFERED CONDITIONS AS WELL AS THERE'S A LOT OF WETLANDS ON THE SITE, SO LOCATING BUILDING FOOTPRINTS AROUND THOSE WETLANDS. SO THE APPLICANT, THE REQUEST TONIGHT IS THAT THEY'RE SEEKING TO ONE, EXPAND THE OVERALL PROJECT FOOTPRINT TO PROVIDE ALTERNATIVE ACCESS TO THE SITE AND TO PROVIDE SOME ROOM TO MITIGATE OR AVOID THE WETLANDS.

SO THAT'S PART OF THE REQUEST, WHICH WOULD BE REZONING THOSE NEWLY ACQUIRED PARCELS. AND THEN THE OTHER PIECE WOULD BE AMENDING THE PROFFERS THAT WERE ATTACHED TO THAT ORIGINAL REZONING TO ACCOUNT FOR THE NEW PLANS. SO THE FIRST PIECE INCLUDES THE ADDITIONAL PARCELS.

2088 DEFENSE ROAD, 1918 TOWNS ROAD AND 1926 BOGEYS DRIVE. THEY'RE CURRENTLY ZONED

[03:10:05]

THEY DID PROVIDE A TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY, ALONG WITH THE APPLICATION THAT OUTLINED THE MANAGEMENT OF TRAFFIC AND REQUIRED IMPROVEMENTS DURING AND AFTER CONSTRUCTION. THE PART OF THE PLAN WOULD BE TO IMPROVE TOWNS ROAD, WHICH IS AN EXISTING PAPER STREET OR UNIMPROVED RIGHT OF WAY, SO THAT STREET WOULD BE BUILT OUT TO PROVIDE A POINT OF EMERGENCY EGRESS FROM THE PROPERTY. THE SITE AT 1926 BOGIE'S DRIVE JUST ALLOWS SOME MORE FLEXIBILITY WITH THE SITE LAYOUT. THERE'S NO DEVELOPMENT PROPOSED ON THAT SITE. THE NEWLY ACQUIRED PARCELS, THEY'RE ALL PROPOSED TO REMAIN UNDEVELOPED EXCEPT FOR THE, YOU KNOW, ENTRANCES INTO THE DEVELOPMENT AS WELL AS POTENTIALLY SOME WETLAND MITIGATION. SO THIS IS JUST SHOWS THE ORIGINAL REZONING. AND THEN ON THE RIGHT YOU SEE THE EXPANDED FOOTPRINT WITH THE ADDITIONAL PROPERTIES. THIS IS THE UPDATED CONCEPT PLAN FOR THE PROJECT. SO AS YOU'LL SEE, THE BUILDINGS THEMSELVES, THE SUBSTATIONS HAVEN'T REALLY MOVED MUCH OTHER THAN TO AVOID THE WETLAND IMPACTS. SO THOSE ARE ALL STILL CONFINED TO THE 2233 OR THE CALL YOUR YARD SITE.

BUT YOU SEE THAT TOWARDS THE TOP OF YOUR SCREEN, YOU'LL SEE THE ACCESS COMING IN FROM FROM DEFENSE ROAD. YOU SEE TOWNS ROAD IS BUILT OUT FOR THAT EMERGENCY EGRESS. AND YOU'LL SEE THAT CONSTRUCTION ACCESS WOULD BE LIMITED TO A COMBINATION OF BETWEEN DEFENSE ROAD AND THE AT GRADE CROSSING ON HALIFAX ROAD. SO THEY ALSO AMENDED SOME OF THE EXISTING PROFFERED CONDITIONS, OR THEY'VE PROPOSED TO AMEND THEM TO THE BIG ONE IS THAT THE EXISTING PROFFERS STATE SPECIFICALLY THAT ACCESS WOULD COME FROM HALIFAX ROAD. THE PROPOSED PROFFER ALLOWS FOR THAT ACCESS FROM THE DEFENSE ROAD ENTRANCE, BUT AGAIN, DOES SPECIFY THAT, YOU KNOW, CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC AND OPERATIONAL TRAFFIC WOULD BE LIMITED TO EITHER THAT ENTRANCE OR WOULD COME IN FROM HALIFAX ROAD. IT WOULD NOT COME IN THROUGH THE LOCAL RAMBLEWOOD STREETS EXCEPT EMERGENCIES. APOLOGIES FOR A MINUTE. YES, SIR. YOUR MINIMUM SETBACKS AND ENHANCED FROM 100FT TO 125 FROM ALL RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES. I'M UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT'S NOT TRUE. IT'S 300FT. UNLESS IT'S CHANGED SINCE IT WAS BROUGHT THROUGH THE PROCESS. IT WAS THE 125, I BELIEVE THEY HAD PROVIDED SOME VISUALS THAT SHOWED THAT A LOT OF TIMES IT IS OVER 300FT. ALL RIGHT. MR. MR. ALTMAN, SO WHAT I WOULD SAY IS THAT THIS IS THE MINIMUM THAT IT COULD BE. IN REALITY, THEY THE SETBACKS MAY BE FURTHER FROM EXISTING RESIDENTIAL THAN THE THREE THAN, THAN THE 125, BUT THAT'S THE MINIMUM THAT IT CAN BE UNDERSTOOD. BUT WHAT ARE THEY OFFERING THEN? THEY OFFER 300.

THEY DIDN'T EVEN SAY 100. THEY SAID 300. THERE'S SOMEBODY HERE THAT CAN ATTEST TO THAT. IT'S 300. THE APPLICANT IS HERE. I THINK WHEN MR. CRUZ IS DONE, THEN THEY CAN COME UP AND ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS FOR YOU. I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. THAT IS THE MINIMUM. BUT I THINK THEY OFFERED 300FT. YEAH. WHICH IS AND SO JUST SO WE KNOW JUST JUST TO CLARIFICATION POINT FOR I GUESS, ME AND THE CITY ATTORNEY HERE. SO THIS IS THIS REZONING, THESE THE PROFFERS THAT ARE BEING OFFERED ARE VOLUNTARILY VOLUNTARY ON THEIR BEHALF, DIFFERENT FROM THE LAST ONE WHERE WE COULD IMPOSE CONDITIONS. AND THIS ONE, THEY HAVE TO VOLUNTARILY OFFER THE PROFFERS, WHICH IS WHAT THEY'VE DONE. THANK YOU. SO YEAH, THE THERE'S THE PROFFER ON THE ENHANCED SETBACK. THERE WERE EXISTING PROFFERS THAT TALK ABOUT THE ARCHITECTURAL TREATMENT OF THE BUILDINGS, THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER IN PLACE, NOISE STUDIES USING RECYCLED WATER, POWER SUPPLY, SURVEYS OF ENVIRONMENTAL RESOURCES. REVIEW OF THE SUBSTATION AND THEN TITLE MATTERS SO THOSE PROFFERS THEMSELVES AREN'T CHANGED EXCEPT TO BE APPLIED TO. THEY WOULD NOW INCLUDE THOSE NEWLY ACQUIRED PARCELS. AND THEN THEY HAD ALSO PROVIDED ADDITIONAL

[03:15:04]

THANK YOU. WE NOW OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING COMMENT FOR THE ORDINANCE TO APPROVE THE REQUEST BY ALEXANDER GRAHAM, JR, ON BEHALF OF THE WARRENTON GROUP, TO REZONE PROPERTY AT 2088 DEFENSE 1918 TOWNS ROAD AND 1926 BOGUS DRIVE, PARCEL NUMBER ID. 07 0080 0020

[03:20:07]

I'M ONE OF THOSE HOUSES ON DODSON. SO NOW MY BACKYARD IS THAT PROPERTY IS NOW ZONED M1 INDUSTRIAL. SO I, YOU KNOW, I PLAN TO STAY HERE TILL THIS IS IT. THIS IS MY LAST HOME I BOUGHT. WE JUST BOUGHT HERE A FEW MONTHS AGO. WE, WE WE'VE LOVED THIS AREA FOR YEARS.

WE'VE MOVED BACK TO THIS AREA AFTER 17 YEARS AND WE'RE WE'RE VERY HAPPY IN PETERSBURG. I'M JUST NOT HAPPY ABOUT I'M GOING TO HAVE AN INDUSTRIAL ZONED AREA RIGHT NEXT TO ME. AND I AND I SHOULD HAVE SAID AT THE BEGINNING, I WANT TO SEE THE CITY PROSPER. I WANT TO SEE EVERYBODY HAVE A QUALITY OF LIFE AND, YOU KNOW, SEE IT DO WELL, I REALLY DO. IT JUST SEEMS LIKE WE HAVE SOME PROBLEMS HERE. AND I'M LIKE I SAID, I'M CONCENTRATING ON THE TOWN'S ROAD RIGHT NOW. SO I THINK IF IT KEPT IF WE KEPT IT RESIDENTIAL DOWN THE ROAD, IF WARRENTON GROUP DECIDES, WELL, WE DON'T WANT THIS PROPERTY ANYMORE, WE DON'T NEED IT AND THEY SELL IT, THEN IT CAN YOU CAN PUT SOME SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ON THERE. TO ME, THAT WOULD BE BETTER THAN IT STAYS M1. AND AT SOME POINT AND YOU KNOW THESE I MEAN I'VE SEEN BEEN AROUND A WHILE. YOU SEE YOU KNOW GOVERNMENT PEOPLE CHANGE AND YOU KNOW THE DATA CENTER IS BOUGHT AND SOLD SOMEWHERE DOWN THE ROAD. AND SOME OF THE OTHERS, LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE REALLY NEED TO HAVE, I DON'T KNOW, SOME KIND OF BUILDING OVER HERE. HEY, WE'VE GOT THIS M1. WELL, LET'S GO DO THAT. AND YOU, YOUR NOTES FROM, YOU KNOW, THESE NOTES WILL BE FIVE YEARS LATE AND, YOU KNOW, ARE THEY EVEN GOING TO KNOW THAT THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BUILD? I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WORKS. HOW CAN YOU GUARANTEE THAT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BUILD ON ANY OF THESE BLUE PROPERTIES THAT ARE GOING TO BE REZONED? I REALLY DO APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

[03:25:03]

WE'RE SO EXCITED. YAY! WE WE GOT THIS BEAUTIFUL PROPERTY. WE HAD NO IDEA THAT A DATA CENTER WAS GOING IN SURPRISE. WE WERE ABLE TO MEET WITH THE WARRENTON GROUP, THE WARD SEVEN MEETING ON JANUARY THE 13TH OF THIS YEAR, AND THERE WERE MANY QUESTIONS THAT WE HAD THAT WENT UNANSWERED BECAUSE THEY DON'T REALLY HAVE A PLAN. THEY DON'T HAVE A DESIGN, THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT KIND OF COOLING GENERATORS. THEY COULDN'T ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS. I ALSO BROUGHT UP HEALTH CONCERNS ON OUR END. THEY KIND OF MINIMIZE THAT. DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT. WE'LL FOLLOW THE LAW AS WHAT I GOT AS AN ANSWER ABOUT EMISSIONS, GETTING RID OF WASTE, THE WATER, ETC. THE AIR, ALL OF THAT. A LOT OF QUESTIONS JUST WAS, I DON'T KNOW, OR WENT UNANSWERED.

AND I'M CURIOUS HOW THIS DATA CENTER SITE COULD BE APPROVED FOR A DATA CENTER WITHOUT ALL OF THESE QUESTIONS BEING ANSWERED. ON APRIL THE 3RD OF 2025, THERE WAS A PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING. LIKE I SAID, WE JUST MOVED HERE IN SEPTEMBER, SO I DID NOT KNOW ABOUT THAT MEETING. IN APRIL, THEY HAD A MEETING TO APPROVE THE DATA CENTER. MR. CRUZ HAD RESPONDED TO SOME QUESTIONS THAT ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS HAD ABOUT NOISE, LIGHT, THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT, AND HE HAD SAID THAT THINGS SUCH AS LIGHTING, NOISE AND STANDARDS, NOISE STANDARDS WOULD BE ADDRESSED BY THE CITY'S PREEXISTING CONDITION FOR DATA CENTERS. BUT THE SITE WOULD NEED TO BE FACILITATED WITH THE RAILWAY. AND IF THEY WEREN'T WITH THE AND IF THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO COMPLY WITH THE STANDARDS IN PLACE, THEY WOULD NEED TO COME TO THE CITY FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT. WE ARE HERE AS RESIDENTS IN THIS AREA BECAUSE OF POOR PLANNING AND NOT ADEQUATE PLANNING ON THE WARRENTON GROUP AND THEIR DATA CENTER SITE, THE WARRENTON GROUP REPRESENTATIVE, WHO WAS HERE IN JANUARY AND HE'S NOT HERE TONIGHT, BUT ONE OF THE RESIDENTS MADE A CONCERN ABOUT THE HUMMING. MAYBE SOME VIBRATIONS COMING FROM THE CENTER. AND HE SAID, AND THIS IS PRETTY MUCH HIS EXACT WORDS, WE CANNOT HAVE ANY VIBRATION.

AND HE DID THIS. EVERYTHING HAS TO BE CALM. WHERE IS THIS DATA CENTER GOING? RIGHT NEXT TO A RAILROAD TRACK, WHICH I WOULD THINK HAS SOME VIBRATION TO IT. SO I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THEY THOUGHT ALL THAT THROUGH. THEY DID NOT THINK THROUGH THE CROSSING THE RAILROAD. SO THEY COME BACK AND SAY, HEY, LET'S GO THROUGH THIS RESIDENTIAL AREA. WE IT'S SO FRUSTRATING TO LOOK AT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S GOING TO BE REZONED THAT THEY SAY IS GOING TO BE BUFFERS. AND.

WHY DOES IT HAVE TO BE REZONED FROM RESIDENTIAL TO M-1 LIGHT INDUSTRIAL? EVERYONE IN THE IN THE COUNCIL HAS SPOKEN ABOUT THE FUTURE. WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE FUTURE OF THE CITY. WHO'S GOING TO WANT ANY KIND OF INDUSTRIAL, LIGHT INDUSTRIAL PLACE TO COME IN TO A RESIDENTIAL AREA? I SURELY DON'T, THAT'S NOT WHY WE BOUGHT OUR PROPERTY. SO IT'S A CONCERN.

WARRENTON GROUP OWNS THIS LAND ALREADY. KEEP IT THE WAY IT IS. KEEP THE TREES THAT THEY CAN KEEP AND KEEP IT AS A BUFFER. IF IT IS REZONED IN THE FUTURE, THINGS COULD CHANGE HANDS AND THAT AREA WOULD BE RIGHT NEXT TO OUR HOMES. AND I STRONGLY OPPOSE THE REZONING REQUEST

[03:30:03]

YOU FOLKS, I WOULD LIKE TO ESPECIALLY ADDRESS ONE OF THE THREE NEW ADDITIONS TO THE MAIN SITE THAT OTHER FOLKS HAVE TALKED ABOUT ALREADY. THE SITE, OF COURSE, HAS BEEN APPROVED.

LAST YEAR, THE MAIN SITE FOR THE REZONING TO M-1 LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. BUT THERE ARE THREE NEW ADDITIONS ON THIS REZONING THAT YOU'RE CONSIDERING TONIGHT, ONE OF WHICH IS FOR THE NEW STREET TOWNS ROAD. NOW, TOWNS ROAD HAS BEEN ON THE MAPS FOR THE CITY FOR MANY YEARS, BUT HAS NEVER BEEN DEVELOPED. IT'S LOCATED BETWEEN DODSON ROAD AND SAUNDERS ROAD, BOTH OF WHICH ARE LINED WITH ONE FAMILY HOMES. AND WE CAN SEE NO REASON WHY THE PROPERTY ON EITHER SIDE OF THIS STREET SHOULD BE REZONED FROM RESIDENTIAL TO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. APPARENTLY THERE ARE SOME PLANS FOR DEVELOPMENT THERE THAT HAVE NOT BEEN REVEALED TO US. OBVIOUSLY THE VALUE OF OUR HOME WOULD BE LOWERED BY THIS PROXIMITY TO AN INDUSTRIAL SITE ON AN M-1 SITE.

THERE ARE MANY USES THAT COULD BE MADE OF THIS AREA, MOST OF WHICH WOULD BE INCOMPATIBLE WITH A RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY. AT THE VERY LEAST, WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT THE LONG TERM PLANS ARE FOR THIS STREET. ALSO, MY WIFE AND I OWN TWO LOTS THAT WOULD BE ON THE NEW TOWNS ROAD

[03:35:04]

IT'S NOT TOO LATE FOR YOU TO RECONSIDER THIS WHOLE DATA CENTER DEVELOPMENT. OTHER COMMUNITIES HAVE AND ARE REJECTING SIMILAR PROJECTS, MOST OF WHICH ARE NOT PLANNED FOR SITING IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA IN A HISTORIC CITY. PLEASE REJECT THIS ILL CONCEIVED PLAN FOR DISRUPTING OUR COMMUNITY BY VOTING AGAINST THIS REZONING PROPOSAL. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

YES, SIR. OKAY. GOOD EVENING. MAYOR, VICE MAYOR AND COUNCILMEN AND COUNCILWOMEN. MY NAME IS CHARLES BULLOCK. I CAME DOWN HERE 22 YEARS AGO AND I LOVE PETERSBURG. I KNOW WE HAVE A PROBLEM. FINANCIAL PROBLEM BECAUSE I RAN. WHAT WAS YOUR ADDRESS? I RAN A BUSINESS. CAN YOU STATE YOUR ADDRESS FOR IT? FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE? OKAY. I'M GOING TO GIVE IT TO YOU.

THANK YOU. AND I STARTED A BUSINESS HERE, AND MY BUSINESS BECAME VERY SUCCESSFUL. I BOUGHT A HOME ON 20. 86 DEFENSE ROAD. I SPENT A LOT OF MONEY ON THAT PROPERTY, AND THE SHAME OF IT, I DID NOT SEE THAT YOU WOULD PUT A ROAD IN FRONT OF MY HOME. AND IF I HAD KNOWN THAT, I WOULDN'T HAVE BOUGHT THE PLACE BECAUSE IT WAS A SECLUDED SPOT. AND IT HAS WILDLIFE. YOU HAVE DEERS RUNNING THROUGH, YOU HAVE ALL TYPE OF BIRDS AND IT'S A BEAUTIFUL PLACE. SO WHY WOULD A TOWN TAKE ONE OF THE MOST PROMINENT SPOTS AND MAKE IT INTO A BUSINESS AREA? AND I WANT ANOTHER QUESTION TO ASK YOU. HOW CAN THEY PUT A ROAD OFF OF DEFENSE ROAD IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE? WHEN I THINK THAT PROPERTY THAT THEY SHOW IS NOT ACCURATE TO THE SCALE, BECAUSE THAT PROPERTY RUNS ALONG THE RAILROAD AND I AND MY PROPERTY, I THOUGHT YOU SAID IT HAD TO BE.

AT LEAST THE ROAD OF PROPERTY HAD TO BE AT LEAST 300FT, OR 150FT FROM THE PROPERTY.

THERE'S NO WAY ON THAT PROPERTY YOU GOT 150FT. SO I SAY, LET'S FIND ANOTHER WAY TO PUT THAT ROAD IN. AND SO I SAY NO TO THE PRIDE. THANK YOU, MISS KIT. I AM JACQUELINE BAILEY KIT. I RESIDE AT 2017 COUNTRY LANE COURT, WARD THREE. I AM A FORMER PUBLIC POLICY ANALYST AND DIRECTOR AND I'M HERE TO OPEN THE PUBLIC CONVERSATION AROUND THE OPPOSITION OF ESTABLISHING A DATA CENTER IN PETERSBURG. IN THE PAST FEW MONTHS, SEVERAL LOCALITIES IN THE COMMONWEALTH, NAMELY PITTSYLVANIA, HANOVER, CHESAPEAKE, LOUISA, CAMPBELL, PRINCE WILLIAM, CHARLES CITY AND HENRICO HAVE JUST SAID NO OR HAVE STALLED THEIR PROJECTS AROUND DATA CENTERS. THE MAIN REASON FOR THE RESISTANCE IS THE COST THAT WILL BE BORNE BY YOUR CONSTITUENTS. THEY REQUIRE VAST AMOUNTS OF ELECTRICITY AND WATER. BACKUP GENERATORS, BACKUP GENERATORS PROVIDE A LOT OF NOISE POLLUTION. THERE ARE MANY, MANY REASONS WHY WE DON'T

[03:40:07]

I WAS SUPPOSED TO COME AFTER THIS. OKAY. THANK YOU, MISS RUDOLPH. DURING THE PUBLIC COMMENT. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. COUNCIL. BARB RUDOLPH, 1675 MOUNT VERNON STREET.

LITTLE CHANGE OF PACE. I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THE DATA CENTER. AT LEAST NOT NOW. I ACKNOWLEDGE IT'S NOT IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD. I'M JUST. I'M JUST LIVING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WITH THE INCREASING PROPERTY VALUES. SO I DON'T WHETHER OR NOT FOR WHATEVER REASON. BUT THAT'S ANOTHER TOPIC. I JUST WANT TO ADDRESS A COUPLE THINGS THAT WESTBROOK SAID. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU'VE BEEN YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT, I THINK TONIGHT AS KIND OF A SELLING POINT WAS EMPLOYMENT, AND YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT TRAINING PROGRAMS WITH HIGH SCHOOL AND VIRGINIA STATE. AND I BELIEVE WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE AND ONE OF THE EARLIER MEETINGS, THE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES WORK AT A DATA CENTER WAS NOT A SELLING POINT BECAUSE IT WAS A RELATIVELY SMALL NUMBER. AND THE REAL THE REAL THING THAT WE'RE YOU'RE AIMING TO GET IS INCREASED REVENUE. BECAUSE THE REVENUE IS IS HUGE, AT LEAST WHAT YOU DESCRIBED. SO I'M JUST SUGGESTING THAT WAS THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A RED HERRING. THE OTHER THING YOU SAID ANOTHER THING TOO, AND THIS ISN'T YOUR SAYING, BUT YOU SAID THAT THIS IS AN ISSUE FOR PEOPLE ABOUT THAT. DATA CENTERS PREY ON MINORITY COMMUNITIES TO LOCATE THERE. AND, YOU KNOW, AND THAT WAS YOU SAID THAT. AND I'M LIKE, I THOUGHT THAT LOUDOUN COUNTY, VIRGINIA, WAS THE DATA CENTER CAPITAL OF THE WORLD. IT'S ALSO THE RICHEST COUNTY IN THE COUNTRY. AND I LOOKED IT UP SITTING HERE EARLIER, THE AFRICAN AMERICAN POPULATION THERE IS LIKE A LITTLE OVER 7%. I MEAN, AND IT'S AND THEY'RE MORE DIVERSE THAN WE ARE. THEY HAVE A LOT MORE ASIANS AND HISPANICS THAN THERE ARE IN PETERSBURG AND AND BUT AND MORE WHITES. BUT IT'S ONLY A SIMPLE MAJORITY. SO I JUST WANTED TO NOTE THAT THAT'S KIND OF A MAYBE THAT HAPPENS SOME PLACES, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHAT'S GOING ON HERE. I DON'T WANT TO IMPUTE THAT MOTIVE TO THE WARRENTON GROUP BECAUSE THEY HAVE THEY HAVE WORKED WITH US BEFORE, AND I'M ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE THAT LIKED THE WARRENTON GROUP'S PROPOSAL FOR THE CASINO, SO I'M FAVORABLY DISPOSED TOWARD THEM. BUT THE OTHER THING I WOULD, I WOULD SAY FROM MY OWN EXPERIENCE IS IN 2017, AS I RETIRED FROM THE STATE AND I WORKED AT THE STATE IT AGENCY IN, IN CHESTERFIELD, AND OUR, OUR BUILDING HOUSED THE STATE DATA CENTER FOR THE WHOLE COMMONWEALTH. SO, YOU KNOW, IT WAS BIG. THE BUILDING WAS DESIGNED LIKE A V. SO ONE LEG OF THE V IS WHERE THE OFFICES AND THE CONFERENCE ROOMS AND ALL THAT WAS. AND THEN THE OTHER LEG OF THE V WAS THE DATA CENTER. NOW I'M GOING TO BE TRUTHFUL. WHEN YOU WENT IN THE DATA CENTER, IT WAS LOUD AS CRAP. I MEAN, IT WAS I DON'T KNOW WHAT PEOPLE DID TO WORK IN THERE, BUT OUTSIDE, BECAUSE WE PARKED OUR PARKING LOT WAS RIGHT AS CLOSE TO THE DATA CENTER AS IT WAS TO THE OFFICES. I NEVER HEARD A THING. NOW I'M NOT GOING TO I'M NOT GOING TO SPEAK TO THE GENERATORS CAME ON. I'M SURE IT WAS. THAT WAS PROBABLY LOUD. BUT THE DATA CENTER AND THIS WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN A STATE OF THE ART DATA CENTER YOU'D GET TODAY, BECAUSE I THINK IT WAS BUILT IN 2004 TO 2006, SOMEWHERE IN THAT TIME FRAME. SO IT CAN BE DONE. IT CAN BE DONE TO HAVE TO HAVE IT BE QUIET, QUIET ENOUGH THAT, I MEAN, I NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT IT BEING THERE. WHEN I DROVE TO WORK AND GOT OUT OF MY CAR AND WALKED IN AS CLOSE TO THE DATA CENTER AS I WAS TO THE OFFICES, AND I WOULD JUST ALSO NOTE, BECAUSE ONE OF THE MR. FULLER

[03:45:01]

THAT'S KIND OF PIMPISH TO ME, RIGHT? THEY'RE PUTTING CHANGES BEFORE THEY EVEN START. SO IT'S AFFECTING PEOPLE. AND THESE PEOPLE ARE CRYING. THEY'RE CRYING. I'M CONCERNED THAT THIS IS, YOU KNOW, THEY SAY IT'S TO BRING REVENUES FOR THE CITY, BUT WE JUST WE JUST BROUGHT ON ANOTHER ONE HUGE INDUSTRY ALREADY THAT WE STILL NEED TO FILL OUT. AND WHAT IS IT GOING TO DO? ARE WE GOING TO GROW TOO BIG, JUST GRABBING UP A LOT OF THINGS AND THEN MESSING UP OUR PEOPLE? YOU KNOW, THE DATA CENTER IS THAT IF EVERYBODY ELSE IS SAYING NO, YOU KNOW, THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING FOR US TO THINK ABOUT AS WELL. NOT NOT SAYING THAT, BECAUSE LIKE YOU SAID, WHEN ARE WE GOING TO DO OUR THING? NO DOUBT. AND I THINK THAT WE ARE AND I THINK WE'RE ON THE PATH OF DOING SOME GREAT THINGS. RIGHT. AND ONE OF WHICH, LIKE, I'M NOT A FOLLOWER, I THINK Y'ALL KNOW THAT. BUT I WOULD FOLLOW THESE OTHER CITIES IN A NO FOR THIS, BECAUSE I THINK THAT WE LIVE IN A FOOD DESERT. MAYBE WE CAN MAYBE WE CAN INVEST IN SOME AGRICULTURE.

MAYBE WE CAN INVEST OUR FUNDS OTHER WAYS. THE WARRENTON GROUP GOT MONEY AND THEY'RE HERE TO INVEST TO MAKE MONEY. BUT LET'S INVEST IN SOME THINGS THAT'S NOT GOING TO KILL US, OR THAT'S NOT GOING TO STRESS OUR SENIORS OUT RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE THESE PEOPLE ON THEIR LAST DAY IN THEIR LAST QUARTER, AND THEY WANT TO ENJOY THEIR LIVES AND THEY HELPED BUILD I MEAN, LOOK, WE GOT IT'S REAL. LET'S LET OUR LET'S DO SOMETHING FOR OUR SENIORS THAT INVEST INTO BECAUSE OUR SENIORS CARRY YOUR VOTES. THEM THE BIG VOTES, Y'ALL, NOT THE YOUTH. RIGHT NOW IT'S THE SENIORS. AND THEY THEY SAYING A LOT TO Y'ALL RIGHT NOW A LOT. SO I'M GOING TO STAND ON THE NO SIDE OF THAT. MAYBE WE CAN COME UP WITH SOME OTHER TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT PLAN. BUT SEE HERE WE GO AGAIN. COMING INTO THE PLANNING, LET'S NOT HAVING A PLAN. THEY CAN COME IN HERE AND DO ANY KIND OF THING THEY WANT OR YOU KNOW, THEY'VE ALREADY BOUGHT THE LAND, THEY'VE ALREADY BOUGHT THE LAND, Y'ALL. YOU UNDERSTAND. SO THEY ARE. THE PIMP IS IN HERE. I'M NO HOE. THEY AIN'T NO HOES. WE ARE PETERSBURG STRONG. LET'S, LET'S LET'S COME UP WITH SOMETHING DIFFERENT. WE'RE SMARTER THAN THAT. WE'RE ALL SMARTER THAN I THINK WE CAN DO BETTER. THANK YOU. HI, I'M KELLY SQUIRES. I OWN THE PROPERTY AT 1925 EAST DRIVE, WHICH IS RIGHT ACROSS FROM THIS LOT, 1926 DRIVE DRIVE. AND I CAN TELL YOU, I'M NOT 300FT. I DON'T THINK FROM THIS DRAWING HERE, YOU CAN SEE FROM THE DATA CENTER, IT'S ALMOST RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO ME AND SEVERAL PEOPLE ON THE SAME THING. IT'S RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO THEM. AND THAT WAS WHAT THAT WAS NOT WHAT WAS ON THE ORIGINAL PLAN THAT WAS APPROVED IN APRIL, WHICH I WAS NOT NOTIFIED OF. I DON'T KNOW WHY I DIDN'T GET NOTIFIED. I WAS REALLY UPSET OVER IT. BUT I DO AGREE. PETERSBURG NEEDS BUSINESS AND INDUSTRY, AND I DO THINK THAT'S THE WAY TO GO. BUT LET'S DO IT THE RIGHT WAY. I DON'T THINK I AGREE WITH THE GENTLEMAN WHO SAID BACK HERE, WHY DOES THIS NEED TO BE REZONED M-1 INDUSTRIAL THE MINUTE YOU REZONE IT, SOMEBODY ELSE CAN, TWO YEARS FROM NOW SAY, OH, I WANT TO PUT A DRIVEWAY IN THERE. NEXT THING YOU KNOW, I'VE GOT A DRIVEWAY RIGHT IN FRONT OF MY MY HOME. AND I'M VERY UPSET OVER THAT. I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE NOISE BECAUSE I'M GOING TO BE RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO IT. 125 FOOT BARRIER IS NOT VERY MUCH. THAT'S NOT EVEN THE LENGTH OF A FOOTBALL FIELD. SO THAT TELLS YOU HOW CLOSE IT'S GOING TO BE TO ME. UTILITY BILLS, EVEN THOUGH THE WARRANTY GROUP IS REQUIRED TO BRING THE WATER INTO THEM, WHO'S GOING TO MAINTAIN THAT? THE CITY IS GOING TO HAVE TO MAINTAIN SERVICE TO THEM. AND I'M SURE THAT THAT'S PROBABLY GOING TO MEAN INFRASTRUCTURE UPGRADES. AND WHO'S GOING TO PAY FOR THAT? THEY'VE ALREADY RAISED MY WATER BILL IN JANUARY. MY PROPERTY VALUE, I REALLY THINK IS GOING TO GO WAY DOWN FROM THIS YET. I

[03:50:01]

RIGHT? YOU HAVE YOU HAVE SOME FARMLAND OUT THERE, RIGHT? IF YOU GO OUT PAST WILCOX LAKE, THERE'S SOME THERE'S BY DEFENSE ROAD, NOT FURTHER FROM THERE. THAT'S PETERSBURG, ISN'T IT? WHY CAN'T THEY GO OUT THERE WHERE THERE'S ONE FARMHOUSE? OKAY. HUNDREDS OF ACRES AROUND, OKAY. WHERE THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE DISRUPTING THE TOWNSPEOPLE. OKAY. THERE'S THERE'S YOU CAN PUT ALL THE ROADS IN YOU WANT. IT'S FLAT LAND. THERE'S NO TREES. THEY DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT PUTTING TREES IN AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF. IT JUST SEEMS TO ME THAT THERE'S OTHER PLACES AROUND HERE THAT IF YOU REALLY WANTED HERE, THAT IT CAN BE DONE AND YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE EVERYBODY UPSET. I MEAN, I'M ALREADY UPSET ABOUT TAXES.

YOU ALREADY KNOW THAT. BUT THAT'S A DIFFERENT THAT'S ANOTHER LINE ITEM, BUT WHICH MAY NOT GET DISCUSSED TONIGHT. BUT ANYWAY, I WANT TO SEE WHERE PEOPLE CAN COME IN WITH SOMETHING THAT FITS WITH THE COMMUNITY. SO WHEN SOMEBODY WANTS TO PUT IN A HUMONGOUS NEW MANUFACTURING FACILITY, THEY JUST PUT ONE IN OUT THERE A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, GO OUT PAST WILCOX LAKE. I FORGET THE NAME OF THAT ROAD, BUT IF YOU GO ON OUT THERE, THERE'S A IT'S BEHIND TREES. YOU DON'T REALLY SEE IT. IT'S A HUGE FACILITY THERE. DID ANYBODY COMPLAIN ABOUT THAT? PROBABLY NOT, BECAUSE NOBODY'S THERE. THERE'S LAND OUT THERE. THERE'S LAND ALL AROUND OUT THERE WHERE YOU CAN PUT STUFF IN, WHERE PEOPLE AREN'T GOING TO BE UPSET. IT'S NOT GOING TO BE CHANGING PEOPLE'S PROPERTY VALUES. IT'S NOT GOING TO BE CHANGING THEIR TRAFFIC PATTERNS. IT'S NOT MANY PEOPLE WORK AT THESE DATA CENTERS ANYWAY. ALL YOU HEAR IS THE HUM OF FANS THAT ARE KEEPING ALL THE ICS COOL. SO I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU NEED TO THINK ABOUT. THESE PEOPLE NEED TO START THINKING ABOUT WHERE CAN THEY PUT IT, WHERE THEY'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THE WHOLE TOWN UPSET WITH THEM. THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO SAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. YES, MARLOW. HI. MY NAME IS CONSTANCE GREEN. I LIVE AT 3364 SEATON ROAD AND I WAS AT THAT MEETING. OKAY, OKAY. THANK YOU. I WAS AT THAT MEETING THAT THEY HAD. I LIVE IN WARD SEVEN, AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WERE LISTED ABOUT WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT WERE NOT ON THAT LIST. ONE OF THE ISSUES WAS HEALTH, HOW DATA CENTERS AFFECT YOUR HEALTH. AND JUST RECENTLY, SB 94 FROM THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY PASSED A BILL CONCERNING LAND ZONED FOR DATA CENTERS TO BE APPROVED FOR INDUSTRIAL USE. SO MY ASSUMPTION IS THAT THIS HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED FOR INDUSTRIAL USE. IS THAT CORRECT? HAS THAT ALREADY BEEN APPROVED FOR OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO I'M ASKING CITY COUNCIL, ARE YOU WILLING TO PUT DATA CENTERS ON THE BALLOT IN NOVEMBER SO THAT WE CAN ADDRESS THE RISK OF DATA CENTERS? WHEN I WAS AT THAT MEETING, I ADDRESSED SOME ISSUES THAT WERE OF CONCERN TO ME, AND IT WAS HEALTH ISSUES.

DATA CENTERS ARE KNOWN TO CAUSE AIR POLLUTION. THEY USE DIESEL FUEL. THE IMPACT ON YOUR RESPIRATORY SYSTEM, ASTHMA, BRONCHITIS, NOISE, STRESS, HEADACHES, VERTIGO, ANXIETY,

[03:55:10]

AND IT'S WELL, IT'S A QUESTION THAT I PUT TO YOU TO ADDRESS WHEN YOU'RE CONSIDERING TO GO FORWARD WITH THE WALTON GROUP. SO WHEN I WAS HERE BEFORE, I ALSO NAMED A NUMBER OF STATES THAT HAVE REJECTED DATA CENTERS. AND HERE CHESAPEAKE IS HERE IN VIRGINIA, PRINCE WILLIAM'S COUNTY, I BELIEVE, IS GOING THROUGH CHALLENGES RIGHT NOW TO ADDRESS NOT GETTING A DATA CENTER. OTHER STATES HAVE DENIED DATA CENTERS. WHY ARE WE GOING TO PUT A DATA CENTER IN A CITY WITH THE POOREST HEALTH OUTCOMES? YOU'RE PUTTING YOUR RESIDENTS AT RISK. THANK YOU.

NEXT WAS MISS GREEN MODEL GREEN REALLY QUICK. I HAD SOME AN EMAIL TO BE PASSED OUT TO YOU ALL ABOUT THE TO GET. OKAY. YOU ALREADY HAVE IT. WELL I WAS HOPING YOU ALREADY HAD IT AND I JUST NEED IT'S JUST A QUESTION SO LET ME KNOW IF I'M WRONG OR NOT. I DON'T MIND LEARNING. I WAS THINKING THAT WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S BEING DISCUSSED, BECAUSE I AM FOR THE DEVELOPMENT. BUT COULD IT BE EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? COULD IT BE PUT IN A RESOLUTION AND AND THEN HOLD THAT? AND THAT WOULD BE LIKE A ACCOUNTABILITY MARKER? I THOUGHT I SENT THE EMAIL TODAY, BUT AS A PACKET. BUT WHEN I WENT BACK TO THE EMAIL, MISS HILL, IT WASN'T ATTACHED TO IT. SO I HAD THAT PRINTED OUT HERE AT THE LIBRARY FOR YOU ALL. AND AND THEN I JUST HAD A STATEMENT, AS YOU ALL READ OVER THAT, IT SAYS, I WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR.

I'M NOT AGAINST THE DEVELOPMENT. PETERSBURG DOES NEED GROWTH. AND IT'S A WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR WARD SEVEN. BUT WE MUST ASK WHETHER REZONING RESIDENTIAL ADJACENT PROPERTY TO INDUSTRIAL USE IS THE RIGHT WAY TO ACHIEVE THAT GROWTH. SUPPORTERS OF THIS DATA CENTER EXPANSION SAYS IT BRINGS ECONOMIC VALUE. RESIDENTS ARE ASKING WHAT IS THE MEASURABLE RETURN THROUGHOUT ALL TONIGHT, AS I'VE BEEN IN AND OUT, THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN HEARING. AND THEN ALSO HEARING THAT HOW YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING, COUNCILMAN WESTBROOK, COUNCILMAN WESTBROOK ABOUT THE JOBS, RIGHT, ABOUT THE THE JOBS COMING IN. SO IF YOU COULD BE MORE CLEAR ABOUT THAT. AND I DO APOLOGIZE, SIR. I JUST WASN'T ABLE TO GET WITH YOU. BUT AND THEN SOME OTHER ISSUES THAT CAME UP WAS ABOUT THE LONG TERM INFRASTRUCTURE COSTS. I THINK THAT LADY JUST BROUGHT THAT UP. AND THEN IT SAYS ONCE THE LAND IS REZONED INTO INDUSTRIAL USE, IT RARELY RETURNS BACK TO RESIDENTIAL CHARACTER. AND SO THE DECISION THAT WE MAKE TO REZONE, AND I

[04:00:07]

AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK I WENT TO THE MEETING THAT MR. WESTBROOK HAD WITH WARRENTON GROUP. AND, YOU KNOW, I FEEL LIKE THEY'VE ALTHOUGH PEOPLE FELT LIKE THEIR QUESTIONS WEREN'T BEING ANSWERED, I FELT LIKE THEY'VE BEEN KIND OF BENDING OVER BACKWARDS IN A WAY.

AND I UNDERSTAND THE COMMUNITY'S CONCERN ABOUT INDUSTRIAL ENCROACHMENT BECAUSE I LIVE ON POCAHONTAS ISLAND. I'M NOT SURE IF YOU'RE AWARE, GUYS, BUT THERE'S A WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT THAT WAS PUT THERE IN 1955, AND WE HAVE CURRENT UPGRADES GOING ON, AND HEAVY TRUCK TRAFFIC IS UP AND DOWN MY RESIDENTIAL STREET EVERY DAY. DELTA OIL, SAME SITUATION UP AND DOWN THE STREET EVERY DAY. SO I COMPLETELY, YOU KNOW, UNDERSTAND THE COMMUNITY'S CONCERNS. BUT ONE OF THE THINGS A RESIDENT TOLD ME ON POCAHONTAS ISLAND, WHO'S BEEN THERE FOR A LONG TIME, LIKE, WE DON'T LOVE THE TRAFFIC, RIGHT? BUT WHAT SHE SAID TO ME IS SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO DO THINGS IN YOUR COMMUNITY FOR THE GREATER GOOD OF THE CITY, AND THIS DATA CENTER IS GOING TO BRING IN A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF REVENUE FOR THE CITY. AND THAT WATER YOU DRINK WHEN YOU'RE IN YOUR HOUSE, RIGHT? YOU KNOW, WITHOUT YOUR CURRENT INDUSTRIAL ISSUES, RIGHT? THAT'S COMING FROM POCAHONTAS ISLAND. AND WE SEE THE TRUCKS, THE DUST, THE NOISE EVERY DAY. AND SO A RESIDENT HAD TO TELL ME THAT BECAUSE I WAS VERY UPSET FOR A LITTLE BIT. AND SHE WAS LIKE, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES IN THE COMMUNITY YOU MAKE THESE SACRIFICES. AND I THINK THIS IS ONE OF THOSE SACRIFICES. AND UNFORTUNATELY IT'S NOT GOING AT YOUR DOOR WHICH WHICH IS UNPLEASANT, I UNDERSTAND. BUT AS FAR AS THE PROFFER AND WHY THEY'RE TRYING TO REZONE TO IN ONE USE, IF THEY'RE GOING TO BE UTILIZING THIS PROPERTY SOLELY AND IF I'M CLEAR AS A BUFFER, THEN CAN IF YOU GUYS APPROVE THIS THING, THEN AT LEAST PUT A PROVISION IN THERE. THAT'S WHAT THEY HAVE TO RETAIN IT AS, OR THEY HAVE TO COME BACK BEFORE COUNCIL. SO MAYBE THAT'S YOU KNOW, I THINK WE JUST NEED TO PUT IN SOME MITIGATING CONTROLS ON THIS DEVELOPER. I'M NOT AGAINST A FIRST MOVER LIKE SOMEBODY DOING SOMETHING FOR THE FIRST TIME, BECAUSE I BUILT THE HOUSE FOR THE FIRST TIME, SO WE NEVER DO. FIRST. WE'RE NEVER GET ANYTHING DONE. SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S MY POSITION ON IT. LIKE I SAID, I WOULD JUST THINK BACK TO WHAT MY NEIGHBOR SAID TO ME IS SOMETIMES COMMUNITIES HAVE TO MAKE THE SACRIFICE FOR THE GREATER GOOD OF THE CITY. AND HOPEFULLY IF THIS THING GOES THE WAY IT'S SUPPOSED TO GO, YOU GUYS WILL MODIFY THE REAL ESTATE TAXES IN THE CITY OF PETERSBURG AND REDUCE IT TO A PLACE I MEAN, TO A POINT THAT'S MORE COMPARABLE TO SOME OF OUR COUNTERPARTS. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. THIS IS THE NON CIRCUS PART OF THE EVENING. I'D LIKE TO SAY THAT THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE SPOKEN HAVE DONE SO. NAME AND ADDRESS. ROGER CLARK, 2032 DODSON ROAD, WHICH IS ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY. I'D LIKE TO SAY THAT THE PEOPLE WHO'VE COME FORWARD TONIGHT DO SO BECAUSE NOT ONLY IS THE FUTURE AT STAKE, I MEAN, THIS THING WILL SURVIVE. ALL OF US, ANY OF YOU. AND THAT'S IS THAT GOING TO BE A FUTURE OF CYBER WARFARE AND SURVEILLANCE? THAT'S WHAT THESE DATA CENTERS ARE DOING. THEY'RE ANTI-DEMOCRATIC AT SOME LEVEL. NOBODY'S LOOKED AT THAT.

NOBODY'S EVEN THOUGHT ABOUT THAT. AND I WOULD CHALLENGE EACH OF YOU TO TO REACH DOWN, FIGURE OUT SOMETHING IN YOU THAT IS STILL DEMOCRATIC AND WORRY ABOUT THAT. I'D ALSO LIKE TO SAY THAT THE FACT THAT FOR CONSUMERS, THAT ELECTRIC PRICES AND WATER PRICES ARE GOING TO

[04:05:02]

[04:10:02]

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

HALF OF PETERSBURG WILL BE ABLE TO SEE THAT. IT'S UGLY. CONSTRUCTION OF THAT WILL TAKE FOREVER. IT'S UNHEALTHY IF YOU LIVE RIGHT UNDERNEATH IT OR NEAR IT. NOBODY'S EVEN THINKING ABOUT THESE THINGS. THE APPLICANT DOESN'T PUT IT IN ANY OF THEIR CUTE SLIDES. NEITHER DOES DO THE PLANNERS. I'VE JUST GOT A COUPLE MORE THINGS AND I'LL SHUT UP. NOBODY'S GIVEN A THOUGHT TO LIGHT POLLUTION. LIGHT SHOULD GO STRAIGHT DOWN IF THIS PROJECT GOES FORWARD, BECAUSE I KNOW EVERYBODY'S GOT VISIONS OF DOLLAR SIGNS. LIGHT POLLUTION SHOULD GO STRAIGHT DOWN AND NOT OUT. AND THAT IS DOESN'T APPEAR ANY ANYWHERE IN ANY OF THE CONDITIONS. YOU'LL YOU'LL MAKE CONDITIONS ABOUT WHETHER TO KEEP DOORS OPEN OR NOT. BUT YOU WON'T MAKE ANY CONDITIONS ABOUT THIS, WHICH IS A HUNDRED TIMES BIGGER, A THOUSAND TIMES BIGGER PROJECT.

THE DIESEL ENGINES, EACH THE SIZE OF A TRUCK. WHAT IS THE TOTAL DECIBEL LEVEL? WHEN THEY'RE TESTED EACH MONTH, THEY WILL BE TESTED MONTHLY OR MAYBE WEEKLY AS THE BACKUP. YOU KNOW, THIS PLACE WON'T GO DOWN. IT'LL. IT'LL RUN. HUNDREDS OF THESE DIESEL ENGINES. WHAT IS THE TOTAL DECIBEL LEVEL OF THAT? IT'S GOING TO BE LIKE AN AIRPORT WITH 20 JETS TAKING OFF.

WHAT ARE THE EMISSIONS? DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY GRASP OF THE EMISSIONS? IS ANYBODY GOING TO PUT SCRUBBERS ON ON THE DIESEL ENGINES? THEY'RE HUGE. THEY'RE THE SIZE OF THIS STAGE. EACH DIESEL ENGINE. AND THERE'S A FIRE HAZARD IN EACH OF THESE BUILDINGS AND EACH OF THOSE VOLTAGE ORIENTED BUILDINGS WILL BE A FIRE HAZARD. AND PETERSBURG DOESN'T HAVE UTILITIES AND PUBLIC SAFETY DEPARTMENTS CAPABLE OF EVEN SCRATCHING THE SURFACE OF A DISASTER AT SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO YOU GUYS NEED TO PUT YOUR THINKING HATS ON BECAUSE YOU HAVEN'T YET. MR. MR. ALTMAN. MR. MR. MAYOR, REAL QUICK, GO AHEAD. MR. NO, NO NO YOU'RE GOOD. HOLD ON. FOR OUR EMPLOYEES THAT ARE HERE THAT DON'T NEED TO PRESENT. CAN YOU TELL THEM THAT THEY CAN GO HOME NOW BECAUSE THEY GOT TO BE TO WORK EARLY TOMORROW MORNING.

HAVE A GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY. FOR THEIR EMPLOYEES THAT NEED TO GET HOME TO THEIR FAMILIES.

YOU ALL GO AHEAD AND LEAVE EXCEPT FOR POLICE. THEY NEED TO HEAR EVERYTHING THAT WE GOTTA HEAR. THEM STAY TRYING TO KEEP EVERYONE TOO LONG. I MEAN, A LOT HAS BEEN SAID THAT HAS BEEN TRUE. AND ODDLY ENOUGH, I HAVE NEVER GOTTEN AN ANSWER TO ANY OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE ASKED. COULD YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE? MARY LEE COHEN AT 1983 DODSON ROAD. THANK YOU. AND I AM IN WARD SEVEN AND I HAVE CALLED MR. WESTBROOK MAYBE 18 TIMES ABOUT PROBLEMS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND HE'S NEVER ANSWERED THE PHONE. AND THERE

[04:15:01]

IT'S LITERALLY PACKED IN ON TOP OF OTHER PEOPLE IN A WAY THAT, TO MY INSTINCTS AND I HAVE STUDIED SOME TOWN PLANNING. MOST TOWN PLANNERS SAY A CITY SHOULD GROW ORGANICALLY, AND INDUSTRY BUILT IN AGRICULTURAL AREAS SHOULD SHOULD SOMEHOW RELATE TO THE TYPE OF PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THE CITY AND THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE, AND IT SHOULD HAVE SOME CONCERN FOR THEIR HEALTH. BUT EVERYTHING THAT I'VE READ ABOUT THE HEALTH OF DATA CENTERS WOULD DISPUTE EVERYTHING THAT YOU'RE TELLING US ABOUT IT BEING CLEAN AND MODERN. IT MAY BE MODERN, BUT IT'S MODERN IN A WAY THAT PEOPLE ARE RESISTING IT NOW. AND THERE ARE STUDIES BEING DONE WHICH SHOW THAT THE DATA CENTERS CAN BECOME POISONOUS. ARE WE WILLING TO FORFEIT THE LIVES OF PEOPLE IN ORDER TO STUFF THIS DATA CENTER INTO A $5,000 AN ACRE PIECE OF PROPERTY, SO THAT IT CAN JUST BE COMPRESSED THERE AND CREATE AS MANY PROBLEMS AS EVERYONE HAS ALREADY DISCUSSED, TO OUR HEALTH, TO OUR WELL-BEING, TO OUR SOCIAL LIVES, TO OUR IDENTITIES, TO OUR REASONS FOR LIVING IN PETERSBURG. I MEAN, I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT PEOPLE WILL NOT WANT TO LIVE NEAR THE DATA CENTER, BUT I ALSO HAVE NO DOUBT THAT THEY KNOW THAT WHEN THE WIND BLOWS THE OTHER WAY, THE POISON FROM THE DATA CENTER COULD START REACHING, WHO KNOWS, HIGH STREET, IT COULD REACH ANYWHERE. OR PEOPLE GOING TO START LEAVING PETERSBURG BECAUSE OF THIS HUGE DATA CENTER RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE. WHY ISN'T IT ON THE EDGE? WHY ISN'T IT OUT IN A COUNTY? WHY ISN'T IT FAR AWAY FROM WHERE ALL THE PEOPLE LIVE? AND WHY DO ALL THESE PEOPLE THAT ARE DISPUTING THE DATA CENTER FEAR PRESENTING THEMSELVES? I KNOW ANOTHER FIVE PEOPLE ON MY STREET. OH, I DON'T WANT TO GO TO THAT MEETING. YOU KNOW, IT MAY CORRUPT MY LIFE. PEOPLE MIGHT NOT LIKE ME AS MUCH. I DON'T LIKE THE INDUSTRIALIZATION. BUT WHEN THEY BUILT WALLA WALLA, WASHINGTON, BEFORE I WAS BORN IN WASHINGTON STATE, NOBODY SPOKE OUT AND MANY PEOPLE DIED AFTERWARDS. I'M NOT SURE THAT THAT YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH WALLA WALLA, WASHINGTON, AND GE DOES GOOD THINGS FOR YOU. WHEN THEY BROUGHT A NEW, MODERN WAY OF DEVELOPING ALL THIS ELECTRICITY MORE QUICKLY, MORE EFFICIENTLY AND MORE POISONOUSLY THAN EVER BEFORE. AND OF COURSE, DATA CENTERS ARE MORE POISONOUS THA COMPUTERS, AND THEY'RE GOING TO PUT A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT OF WORK FOR EVERY COMPUTER THAT A PERSON USES. I THINK THAT IT'S SOMETHING LIKE 20 PEOPLE WHO USE COMPUTERS WILL BE PUT OUT

[04:20:08]

YEAH. THERE YOU GO. YOUR LIGHTS ON. NOW. JUST TAKE IT OFF. THERE YOU GO. EVERYBODY ON. ON THIS SIDE OF THE TABLE. I KNOW APPRECIATES THE COMMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE. AND IT'S NOT AN EASY DECISION. LET ME SHARE WITH YOU MY NIGHTMARE. LET ME SHARE MY NIGHTMARE WITH THE WARRENTON GROUP. AND PERHAPS THE WARRENTON GROUP CAN HELP HELP FASHION A RESPONSE TO MY NIGHTMARE AND MAKE MY NIGHTMARE GO AWAY. BUT OUR LAST SPEAKER MADE REFERENCE TO THE BUBBLE BURSTING. OR ONE OF OUR LAST SPEAKERS. I WANT TO SUPPORT THIS PROJECT AT THE SAME TIME THAT I WANT TO SEE COUNCIL PROTECT THE RAMBLEWOOD NEIGHBORHOOD. OUR HIGHEST PRIORITY IS TO PROTECT OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. IN MY MIND, AND SLIGHTLY BELOW THAT IS MAXIMIZING MUNICIPAL REVENUE. OKAY, SO WE AND WE'VE GOT SOME TENSION THERE. WE'RE TRYING TO RECONCILE THE TENSION. SO HERE'S MY NIGHTMARE. THE BUBBLE DOES IN FACT BURST. AND EITHER THE WARRENTON GROUP OR THE COMPANY THAT IT FLIPS THESE DATA CENTER PROPERTIES TO. ONE OF THEM FILES BANKRUPTCY. YEAH. HOW HOW LIKELY IS THAT TO HAPPEN? I HAVE NO CRYSTAL BALL, BUT I WANT TO ELIMINATE THAT RISK THAT I SEE IS THE RISK IF IF THERE IS A BANKRUPTCY, THE PROPERTY GOES INTO BANKRUPTCY COURT. THE JUDGE HAS TO SELL THE PROPERTY TO SATISFY THE SECURED AND UNSECURED CREDITORS. AND THESE PROFFERS GO AWAY. SO I'M I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW CAN WE RECONCILE THESE TWO CONFLICTING INTERESTS, ONE, PROTECTING THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND TWO, MAXIMIZING MUNICIPAL REVENUE. AND I WONDER IF THE WARRENTON GROUP WOULD CONSIDER THIS. AND I DON'T THINK IT'S MUCH OF A OF A NUDGE FROM WHERE THEIR MINDSET IS ALREADY. LET ME JUST TRY THIS AND AND SEE WHAT THE WARRENTON GROUP SAYS. BUT I WONDER IF THE WARRENTON GROUP WOULD CONSIDER ADDING AN ADDITIONAL PROFFER. WE'VE GOT 14 NOW, AND I'M ASKING THE WARRENTON GROUP TO CONSIDER NUMBER 15, WHICH REALLY ISN'T MUCH DIFFERENT FROM 14. BUT HERE IT IS WITH THE WARRENTON GROUP. CONSIDER ADDING AN ADDITIONAL PROFFER BY WHICH THE WARRENTON GROUP AGREES TO ADD A DEED RESTRICTION IN FAVOR OF THE CITY OF PETERSBURG, PROHIBITING ANY IMPROVEMENT ON THE LOTS REFERRED TO IN NUMBER. IN PROFFER NUMBER 14, EXCEPT AS MAY BE REQUIRED FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF NEW WETLANDS, ACCESS ROADS, AND RELATED IMPROVEMENTS. NOW THAT WOULD PROTECT THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN CASE, HEAVEN FORBID, SOMETHING ECONOMICALLY CATASTROPHIC HAPPENS AT THE SAME TIME THAT IT WOULD ALLOW THIS PROJECT TO

[04:25:04]

I, I, I'M NOT TRYING TO DERAIL THE TRAIN IN ANY WAY. I'M TRYING TO TO FIND A PLACE WHERE EVERYBODY CAN LIVE AND COEXIST. AND SO MY QUESTION IS, WOULD THE WARRENTON GROUP CONSIDER ADDING AN ADDITIONAL PROFFER BY WHICH THE WARRENTON GROUP AGREED TO ADD A DEED RESTRICTION IN FAVOR OF THE CITY, SO THE BANKRUPTCY COURT COULDN'T TOUCH IT, PROHIBITING ANY IMPROVEMENT ON THESE LOTS THAT WE SEE. BACKING UP TO THE RAMBLEWOOD NEIGHBORHOODS, EXCEPT AS AND THIS IS THE LANGUAGE FROM NUMBER 14, EXCEPT AS MAY BE REQUIRED FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF NEW WETLANDS, ACCESS ROADS, OR ANY RELATED IMPROVEMENTS. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT THE WARRENTON GROUP WOULD CONSIDER? SO. SO PHILOSOPHICALLY, YES, I THINK.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? CAN YOU HEAR ME? SO I THINK WE WE ALREADY PROFFER THAT I SEE WHERE YOU'RE GOING IN TERMS OF THE DEED RESTRICTION. THAT'S ALL I'M ADDING. SO YES. SO SHORT ANSWER IS YES. MECHANISM WILL HAVE TO SORT OF WORK OUT HOW THAT GETS ENSHRINED AND WHAT MECHANISM, WHETHER IT'S THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. I AM NOT A LAWYER. RIGHT. ALL I'M SAYING IS YES, BUT WE NEED TO SORT OF FIGURE OUT WHERE THAT GETS ENSHRINED. GOOD RESPONSE, I UNDERSTAND. I APPRECIATE IT, MR. WILLIAMS, CAN YOU HELP US ON THAT? HOW WOULD WE ENSHRINE THIS IDEA? IT'S NOT MUCH OF A NUDGE FROM 14. WELL, THAT'S THE BEST WAY TO ENSHRINE THE BEST. THE BEST WAY TO ENSHRINE SOMETHING LIKE THAT IS IN A RECORDED COVENANT IN A DEED. SO IF THAT'S WHAT I'M BEING ASKED, THAT'S HOW I WOULD RECOMMEND TO ENSHRINE THAT, SIMPLY BECAUSE IT WOULD MAKE IT MUCH MORE UNTOUCHABLE. WELL, THAT'S THAT'S HELPFUL. WELL, MAYBE THE THING TO DO AND AS I SAY, I DON'T THINK THIS IS MUCH OF A NUDGE FROM WHERE THE WARRENTON GROUP IS TO WHERE I PERSONALLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT GO. MR. WILLIAMS, WE ARE AT FEBRUARY 17TH. WE HAVE A MEETING ON MARCH THE 3RD. WE COULD HAVE A PERHAPS A SPECIAL MEETING, ADVERTISE A SPECIAL MEETING AND AND VOTE ON A PROFFER NUMBER 15 OR A TWEAK TO NUMBER 14. THAT WOULD WELL ENSHRINE 14 AS A DEED COVENANT. CAN I OFFER A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO THAT, SIR? CAN I OFFER A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT, PLEASE? SO I WOULD SAY, AND WHEN YOU MAKE YOUR MOTION ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, YOU MAY WANT TO ADJUST YOUR MOTION TO INCLUDE THAT PROPOSAL SUBJECT TO. AND YOU GOT TONY ON YOUR LEFT, SUBJECT TO SOME FUTURE ACTION. SO WE'RE NOT DOING THIS ALL OVER AGAIN ANOTHER TIME. UNDERSTAND? I DON'T THINK ANY OF US WANTS TO RENEW THIS ALL OVER AGAIN. WE'VE MADE A LOT OF PROGRESS TONIGHT, AND I APPRECIATE THE PUBLIC'S COMMENTS AND I APPRECIATE YOUR RESPONSE. WELL, MR. MAYOR, I WOULD MOVE THAT WE ADOPT THE PROPOSAL AS IT IS BEFORE US TO BE REVISITED OR SUBJECT TO A FINAL VOTE AT A SPECIAL MEETING ON MARCH THE 3RD, AT WHICH TIME THE VOLUNTARY LIMITATION OF CONSTRUCTION ON ADDITIONAL PARCELS, NUMBER 14, IN THESE PROFFERS WOULD BE ENSHRINED IN A A COVENANT IN RUNNING IN FAVOR OF THE CITY TO PROTECT THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AT THE SAME TIME THAT WE ALLOW THE PROJECT TO GO FORWARD. SO THAT IS MY MOTION THAT WE ADOPT, SUBJECT TO COMING BACK TO CONFIRM ON

[04:30:03]

EXACTLY. OKAY. COUNCILMEMBER CUTHBERT, CAN I JUST IN THE IN THE INTEREST OF AND TO USE YOUR ANALOGY OF MOVING THE TRAIN FORWARD, I THINK AND I'M NOT TRYING TO REFRAME YOUR AMENDMENT, I THINK YOUR AMENDMENT IS A GOOD AMENDMENT. THE ONLY SLIGHT NIP TO THAT AMENDMENT WOULD BE SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE ANOTHER ONE OF THESE, AND THE TRAINS COULD COME LITERALLY COME DOWN. THE TRACK IS TO EMPOWER YOUR CITY MANAGER OR, AND YOUR ATTORNEY TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET THAT AS PART OF WHAT YOU'RE APPROVING TODAY. I'M JUST FOR THE SAKE OF EFFICIENCY. WE'VE BEEN WORKING AT THIS FOR OVER FOR CLOSE TO TWO YEARS NOW, AND AT SOME POINT IN TIME WE HAVE TO MARKET THIS SITE SO THAT YOU CAN HAVE THE END USERS AND YOU CAN HAVE THE RESOURCES THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. WE HAVE ALREADY PROFFERED THAT WE ARE NOT GOING TO BE DEVELOPING THIS LAND. IT WILL BE KEPT IN ITS VEGETATIVE STATE, EXCEPT FOR THE RELOCATIONS OF WETLANDS, WHICH IS A GOOD THING, AND THE NECESSARY INFRASTRUCTURE TO MAKE IT PART OF A LEGALLY BINDING PROJECT PROJECT SITE. AND SO ALL I'M SAYING IS YOU CAN GET WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR BY A SIMPLE AMENDMENT TO YOUR TO YOUR, YOUR PROPOSAL THAT DELEGATES KIND OF THE, THE FINISHING WORK, SO TO SPEAK, TO YOUR TEAM. UNDERSTOOD IT. WHAT I'M SUGGESTING I THINK, WOULD HAVE TO BE ADOPTED THOUGH BY A MAJORITY OF COUNCIL. I MEAN, MAYBE MAYBE I READ COUNCIL WRONG AND MAYBE THE VOTE WOULD BE 1 TO 6. I DON'T THINK SO. I THINK WE ALL WANT TO PROTECT THE NEIGHBORHOOD. MR. CITY MANAGER, CAN YOU HELP US FASHION? YOU KNOW, IN RESPONSE TO THIS VERY LEGITIMATE CONCERN EXPRESSED FROM THE PODIUM, HOW HOW CAN WE PIN DOWN AS MUCH AS WE CAN PIN DOWN TONIGHT, BUT MAKE IT SUBJECT TO BEING ENSHRINED IN A DEED RESTRICTION IN FAVOR OF THE CITY? AT A SPECIAL MEETING TO BE HELD ON MARCH THE 3RD. WELL, MR. CITY MANAGER, CITY ATTORNEY. SO YOU'RE THE ONE THEY'RE GOING TO VOLUNTEER, PROFFER A DEED RESTRICTION AND YOU SIMPLY SAY, GIVE AS HE'S INDICATED, THE MANAGER AND I THE ABILITY TO JUST WORK THAT OUT. I THINK THAT'S THE THE ONLY REAL WAY TO DO IT. IF YOU WANT TO DO IT TONIGHT. YEAH. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WELL ALL RIGHT. WOULD YOU, WOULD YOU, CAN YOU ARTICULATE THE MOTION AND I'LL SAY SO MOVE. SO IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING YOU YOU'RE MAKING A VOLUNTARY PROFFER TO AGREE TO A DEED RESTRICTION IN FAVOR OF THE CITY THAT WOULD ESSENTIALLY ENSURE THAT THE, THE BUFFER SPACE REMAINS BUFFER SPACE. AND THERE'S GOING TO BE A COVENANT TO THAT EFFECT THAT WE'RE GOING TO WORK OUT AND RECORD. CORRECT? CORRECT. SO IT'S SIMPLY, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT.

I'M SORRY, THE REZONING AND ACCEPT THE PROFFERS WITH ONE ADDITIONAL PROFFER REQUIRING THE DEED RESTRICTION. THE COVENANT PROTECTING THE GREEN SPACE. AND JUST HOPEFULLY THE CLERK GOT THAT. SO YOU CAN JUST SAY, THAT'S WHAT I'M. MR. MAYOR, I SO MOVE. OKAY. THAT WAS A MOTION ON THE FLOOR. SEEING NO SECOND THE MOTION DIES. COUNCILMAN WESTBROOK, FOR LACK OF A LONG DISCUSSION, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THIS REZONING PROPERTIES OF 288 DEFENSE ROAD, 1918. TOWNS ROAD, 1926. BOGEYS ROAD PARCELS AS LISTED IN THE AGREEMENT FROM AGRICULTURE TO SINGLE FAMILY FROM AGRICULTURE, THE SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICTS TO THE M-1 LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. IF I'M SAYING THIS CORRECTLY, MR. WILLIAMS, SUBJECT TO ACCEPTING OF FUTURE ACTION. CAN I SUM IT UP LIKE THAT? I LEAVE THE SECOND PART OFF AND IF YOU'RE MOVING TO ADOPT IT, YOU ALSO WANT TO ACCEPT THE PROFFERS MOVE TO ADOPT IT. ACCEPTED WITH THE PROFFERS. ALL RIGHT,

[04:35:04]

SO THEY'LL BRING THAT BACK TO US. THAT'S IN THAT AREA? NO, THAT'S FOR THE WHOLE CITY CITYWIDE. IF ANYBODY 70 YEAR OLD IN HERE. RIGHT. YEAH. JUST FOR Y'ALL AND WELL, LISTEN, ON YOUR 70TH BIRTHDAY, THIS APPLIES TO YOU. ALRIGHT. LOOK AND. ALRIGHT, SO ALL IN FAVOR FOR THAT WE SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION CARRIES. LOOK, BEFORE OUR NEXT PUBLIC HEARING I JUST WANT TO LET OUR, OUR SUPERINTENDENT AND SCHOOL BOARD CHAIR KNOW. ITEM 14 A HAS BEEN STRICKEN FROM THE AGENDA FOR TONIGHT. OKAY, SO I KNOW Y'ALL HAVE SCHOOL TOMORROW AND I WANT TO HOLD YOU TO A GOOD NIGHT. SLEEP TIGHT. NEXT WE'RE GOING TO OUR ITEM F A PUBLIC HEARING FOR CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE PURCHASE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF PETERSBURG AND PETERSBURG, LLC AND MCCALL FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF SUB PARCEL FIVE, 36 ACRES OF 3501 HALIFAX ROAD AND PETERSBURG. TAX MAP NUMBER 092010001. MR. MOORE. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. VICE MAYOR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. LET'S SEE. GARY, IF YOU CAN PULL THE ONE UP, I JUST NEED TO SLIDE. BASICALLY BLEACH TECH IS THE IS ASKING. EXCUSE ME. POINT OF ORDER. POINT OF ORDER. WE'RE STILL IN THE MEETING. WHAT'S YOUR NAME, SIR? WOULD YOU MIGHT REMEMBER? Y'ALL CAN GO OUTSIDE. Y'ALL CAN GO IN THE FOR YOU IF Y'ALL NEED TO TALK. POINT OF ORDER. WE'RE STILL MEETING. THANK YOU ALL. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. MR. VICE MAYOR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, THE ENTITY HAS ASKED. AS YOU KNOW, BLEACH TECH IS ONE OF OUR GREAT CORPORATE PARTNERS. IN THE AREA OF BELOW THE DATA CENTER PROJECT, THE RAILS, WHICH WERE INITIALLY PART OF MITIGATION FOR WETLANDS WITH THE WARRENTON GROUP. THEY HAVE AGREED TO ALLOW US ONTO MCCALL BUT VICINITY TO BUY THOSE SUB PARCELS, BASICALLY THEIR SUB PARCELS OF THE LAND THAT ARE PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, THEY ARE NOT DEVELOPABLE PARCELS, BUT THEY FEED DIRECTLY INTO THEIR OPERATIONS. THEY WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR GETTING THE INITIAL CSX. WHEN THEY SAY THE RAILS ARE OUT OF ORDER, THEY WOULD TAKE CARE OF ALL OF THOSE AND THEY WOULD NOT BE AT CITY EXPENSE. AT YOUR POSITION, I PUT DOWN SINCE 2012 THROUGH 2025, THE CITY HAS SPENT $503,000 ON RAIL REPAIRS, AND THAT HAS NOT BEEN MONEY THAT HAD BEEN BUDGETED FOR THAT. WE HAVE REPRESENTATIVES HERE. THE

[04:40:03]

OKAY. THANK YOU. NEXT, OPEN THE FLOOR FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR CONSIDERATION OF THE ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE PURCHASE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF PETERSBURG AND PETERSBURG, LLC AND MCCALL FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF SUB PARCEL OF 3501 HALIFAX ROAD, PETERSBURG, VIRGINIA. OKAY. SEEING NO HANDS, THIS PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED.

COUNCILMAN WESTBROOK I MOVE THAT WE MOVE FORWARD WITH EXECUTING THE PURCHASE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF PETERSBURG AND PETERSBURG, LLC FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF SUB PARCEL ON 3501 HALIFAX ROAD, OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S A MOTION. A SECOND, COUNCILMAN MYERS SECOND. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION A SECOND. MISS HILL, COULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL COUNCIL MEMBER CUTHBERT? I'M SORRY, I WAS. THIS IS ON ITEM F, THE ENSEMBLE CALL RAIL SPUR, AND THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND. YES, I, COUNCIL MEMBER JONES, ABOUT COUNCIL MEMBER. MYERS. COUNCIL MEMBER. WESTBROOK. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER. SMITH. VICE MAYOR. HILL. AYE.

MAYOR. PARA. AYE, SIR. THAT MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MR. MOORE.

NEXT ITEM, G COUNCIL CITY MANAGER, MR. ALTMAN. SO, UNFORTUNATELY, COUNCIL, THE PROGRESS-INDEX DIDN'T ADVERTISE THE AD. PLACE THE AD FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING PROPERLY WITH THE PROPER FONT SIZE AND THE PROPER SIZE REQUIREMENTS IN THE STATE CODE. THE AD WAS PLACED IN THE PAPER. WE WERE SUPPOSED TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING, BUT UNFORTUNATELY, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO BASED ON THE AD. SO WE'RE GOING TO WE HAVE TO TAKE WE HAVE TO REMOVE THIS ITEM FROM THE AGENDA. WE WILL RE-ADVERTISE AND BRING THIS ITEM BACK TO COUNCIL. A THOUGHT THAT I HAVE AND, YOU KNOW, MAY OR MAY NOT WANT TO. WE ALREADY HAVE A MEETING SCHEDULED ON MARCH 24TH WITH SCHOOL BOARD, SO WE CANNOT MEET THE REQUIREMENT FOR THE MARCH 17TH MEETING BECAUSE THE AD WOULD HAVE AD IN THE PAPER TODAY. SO THE 24TH IS THE FOLLOWING WEEK.

WE ALREADY HAVE A MEETING SCHEDULED. WE COULD SET, WE COULD HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT FIVE, AND WE HAVE OUR MEETING WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD AT 630. WE COULD DO THAT AND WE COULD MEET THE DEADLINE FOR FOR ADVERTISING IF THAT IS AMENABLE. OTHERWISE WE WOULD HAVE WE JUST WOULD NEED TO LOOK AT ANOTHER DATE. ALL RIGHTY. SO ENTERTAIN A MOTION AT THIS TIME TO MOVE THIS ITEM TO THE SPECIAL MEETING ON THE MARCH 24TH AT 5:00. COUNCILMAN MYERS, SO MOVED BY COUNCILMAN WESTBROOK SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION CARRIES.

[10. Public Information Period ]

EACH SPEAKER SHOULD BE A RESIDENT OF BUSINESS, OWNER OF THE CITY AND SHALL BE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES. NO SPEAKER WILL BE PERMITTED TO SPEAK ON THE ITEM SCHEDULED FOR CONSIDERATION. THE REGULAR DOCKET OF THE MEETING AT WHICH THE SPEAKERS SPEAK. THE ORDER TO SPEAK IS LIMITED BY THE 30 MINUTE TIME PERIOD, SHALL BE DETERMINED FIRST IN CHRONOLOGICAL ORDER. THE NOTICE PERSONS WHO HAVE NOTIFIED THE CLERK NO LATER THAN 12:00 NOON OF THE DAY OF THE MEETING, BE SECOND CHRONOLOGICAL ORDER OF THEIR SIGN UP. PERSONS WHO HAVE SIGNED A SIGN UP SHEET PLACED BY THE CLERK AND READ THE MEETING ROOM PRIOR TO THE MEETING. REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA. SO LET'S START OFF RIGHT HERE, MR. COREY.

COREY HARRIS GOING. ALL RIGHT. LET ME GO TO MISS JACKIE KID. OH, LET ME TAKE MY SHIRT OFF SO YOU CAN SEE. THERE YOU GO. OH THIS IS FABULOUS. I AM JACQUELINE BAILEY KID AGAIN.

AND I RESIDE AT 2017 COUNTRY LANE COURT IN WARD THREE. I AM HERE ON BEHALF OF THE PEABODY HIGH SCHOOL NATIONAL ALUMNI ASSOCIATION, TO REQUEST THAT YOU GRANT CUSTODIAL OWNERSHIP OF THE PEABODY COMPLEX TO PAL, D.C. THE CITY OF PETERSBURG HAS BEEN ONE OF THE LEADERS IN DEVELOPING GREATER OPPORTUNITIES FOR ITS CITIZENS OF COLOR. HISTORY HAS RECORDED

[04:45:01]

ALVIN AND SADIE CHAVIS, THE PARENTS OF ALVIN BRAGG, THE FIRST DISTRICT ATTORNEY IN THE NATION TO WIN A CRIMINAL CONVICTION AGAINST A US PRESIDENT, NAMELY DONALD TRUMP.

CHARLES SHERROD, THE FOUNDER OF SNICK HERBERT COLTON, THE FIELD DIRECTOR OF SCLC. WHY SHOULD YOU? GRANT PAL, D.C. CUSTODIAL OWNERSHIP? BECAUSE IT IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO, PAL D.C.

WITH THE SUPPORT OF MULTIPLE FUNDERS, BEGS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THE RIGHT THING. WE ARE PREPARED TO EDUCATE AND SUPPORT OUR COMMUNITY. A COMMUNITY THAT HAS BEEN HAS MANY UNMET NEEDS STEMMING FROM A DEPRESSED ECONOMY AND UNDERFUNDED SCHOOLS.

WE WILL BE PROVIDING YEAR ROUND TUTORING FOR ALL AGES, WORKSHOPS TO INCLUDE JOB TRAINING, BOTH TECHNOLOGICAL AND MUSICAL, MANY SERVICES FOR OUR SENIORS, A MUSEUM, FOOD DISTRIBUTION PROGRAMS, AND MANY OTHER SERVICES AND PROGRAMS. IN CLOSING, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME THESE FEW MINUTES TO MAKE THE CASE ON BEHALF OF OUR COMMUNITY.

REMEMBER TO DO THE RIGHT THING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. LEWIS. GOODWIN. WHERE'S MR. GOODWIN? THERE HE IS. OH. FIRST, I WOULD LIKE TO APOLOGIZE TO COUNCIL FOR BEING OUT OF PLACE. I AM HERE IN SUPPORT OF PAL DC TO. GAIN CUSTODIAL OWNERSHIP OF THE PEABODY COMPLEX. AS YOUNG LADY JUST STATED, IS THE OLDEST BLACK HIGH SCHOOL. I'M SORRY. I'M TRYING TO THANK YOU. IT'S THE OLDEST BLACK HIGH SCHOOL EVER IN THE UNITED STATES. FOR BLACK PEOPLE. UNFORTUNATELY, IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA IN CENTRAL VIRGINIA, IT IS THE ONLY BLACK HIGH SCHOOL THAT IS NOT IN USE IN ANY PARTICULAR WAY. AND DINWIDDIE COUNTY, YOU HAVE SOUTHSIDE HIGH SCHOOL, PRINCE GEORGE, YOU HAVE GJ MOORE AND HOPEWELL, YOU HAVE CARTER G. WILSON AND CHESTERFIELD, YOU HAVE CARVER. AND IN RICHMOND YOU HAVE MAGGIE WALKER. WHY NOT PEABODY? WE HAVE A BEAUTIFUL BUILDING. IF IT'S EVER REPAIRED. IT'S A LARGE BUILDING. IT'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT IT CAN BE USED FOR. OKAY. WE ARE HOPING THAT IN THE NEAR FUTURE AND NOT TOO FAR FROM NOW, THE SCHOOL WILL BE RE RESTORED AND TO BE PUT TO USE FOR MANY DIFFERENT THINGS. AS SHE STATED, THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO HELP US AND WANT TO HELP US, AND THERE'S SOME UPCOMING HELP STARTING NEXT MONTH. PLEASE, PLEASE RESTORE AND RETURN THIS OVER TO POWELL. DC PEABODY IS A WONDERFUL PLACE. THE CITY NEEDS IT. THE CITY IS A HISTORIC CITY AND THIS IS A HISTORIC SCHOOL.

PLEASE DO WHAT IS RIGHT. HELP US. AND IF NOT PEABODY, WHO? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. Y'ALL BEEN VERY PATIENT AND WE WANT TO DO SOME GREAT THINGS AT PEABODY. IT'S NOT GOING TO COST THE CITY MUCH AND IT'S GOING TO BE A GREAT HELP. I THINK IT WILL BE A GOOD PLACE TO EDUCATE THE YOUNGSTERS AND TO HELP THE SENIORS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND IT DIDN'T TAKE THE WHOLE THREE MINUTES. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. AMEN. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. GOODWIN. AND RIGHT NOW IT IS 10:00 IN THE COUNCIL RULES. IF COUNCIL MOVES TO EXTEND THE MEETING, I ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO EXTEND. IF NOT, WE'LL CALL THE MEETING AT 10:00. WAS THERE A DESIRE TO

[04:50:06]